Labour believes mandatory mask-wearing should stay in place after July 19th so as to keep the rules clear and to provide people with a sense of reassurance about their safety.
Shadow Education Secretary Kate Green told Sky News yesterday that allowing people to choose whether to wear a mask would be a “recipe for confusion” and “confrontations”, and that it would be much “clearer” to keep rules in place for public places after “Freedom Day”.
She added that, when on public transport, wearing masks and seeing others wearing masks is “a source of great reassurance and people want to do it”.
Despite appealing for clarity, Kate has created more confusion by suggesting that Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has decided to keep mask mandates in the city’s metro – a claim Burnham’s team has denied. Manchester authorities are, however, “strongly urging people to wear face coverings”, as is the Government more generally.
And it doesn’t stop there. Kate also said Labour believes social distancing measures should continue “as far as is possible” and that Test and Trace should be more – not less – sensitive. Do they ever want this to end?
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I consider myself to be moderately intelligent and am therefore able to make my own choice based on my assessment of risk. I certainly don’t need to be told how to run my life by any politician of any party.
I wish the whole 650 of them would bugger off and let the country return to how it was before their unprecedented assault on democracy and free speech.
Unscientific nonsense.
Masks won’t achieve anything if we hermetically seal our mass transport systems and classrooms and workplaces.
Apart from anything else there is no protection for eyes, and that is even if you require FFP3/NP99 masks that can be worn for 2 hours max according to the manufacturers.
Money needs to be made available to drastically improve ventilation of mass transport and work/classroom spaces. Where this was done in Hong Kong, rather than shovelling money into the gaping maw of the useless ‘test and trace’, rates of community infection are far far less that that which we are enduring.
FO you old bag. We’ve had enough of this rubbish.
Yesterday I heard two locals talking in the road outside my house, they were saying how sick they are of the words ‘covid’ and lockdown’. One said “I dunno, I’m seriously beginning to wonder about all this. Well, I’ve had one vaccine but I’m not having any more”. The other said “yes, I feel the same way”.
This may not sound much, but the first person was a man who’d previously been a very serious and blunt advocate of both lockdown and vaccine.
If I was young I’d have got out my skipping rope and done five laps round my garden!
I’m glad I left the Party, and one wonders how many others have done the same thing.
From Monday (weather permitting) I shall be wearing my home printed T shirt with a picture of a flock of sheep wearing face nappies.
I don’t wear a mask but had to when attending a hospital cataract pre-op procedure. The only thing that was upsetting me was having to wear a mask. The staff were horrified that my blood pressure had shot up to 207.
these power hungry lefties & sell outs should all be fired . let her stay indoors forever with a mask on her brains.
Dear Kate Green I’m old enough to make my own risk assessment I’ve had two jabs so the mask is off after next Monday please wear yours if you wish that is now your choice not the law but do not presume to tell me what you want my choice to be
This is the woman who said, at last year’s Labour Party Conference, ‘Don’t let a good crisis go to waste’.
This is about political advantage and pursuing an agenda that has nothing to do with a virus.
What has mandated mask wearing got to do with freedom to breathe oxygen? Why is breathing in your own filthy recycled carbon dioxide got anything do with freedom? Wake up and silence these communists.
A Labour Shadow Education Secretary talking shit, no surprise there then. Most likely also supporting teaching unions telling their members not to do their jobs; but still claiming their full pay?
Ignorant bitch; who voted for her?
F*ck off you stupid pea brained idiot…….with your complete lack of scientific knowledge a job on SAGE awaits with those useless, lying cretins!!
The elevation of Mask wearing in the General Public to cult status is terrifying! -much of the fault lies with scientists who publish experiments performed in Labs,conflate Covid19 with seasonal flu and avoid discussion of any deleterious aspect. Surgeons showed wearing them in the Operating Theatre does not reduce infection which is why in prosthetic surgery “space suits “ are used – Cambridge study showed in hospital masks don’t work an Respirators are needed. Infections went up after mask mandate. 1/3 infection resulting in death were in Hospital where masks are mandatory. We cannot permit the masks maniacs – to make the non wearing of mask “Blasphemy “.
Kate Green – Take some advice from Les Grossman: First, take a big step back… and literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE!
I see the wearing of masks as a major cause for concern for the mental health of the wearer and of the approving public at large. The likes of Kate Green need to wake up to reality.
Here’s the question they never ask. ‘Why? Where’s your clinical evidence viz efficacy of masks?’
Just watching bombastic Dat to Day type autocue reader Bradby on ITV with his self regarding journos Including Peston. They argue that we need to implement the science of masks. It sounds like a Charlie Brooker script. We are all in this black mirror till we decide otherwise.
Of course she does.
The hard left, Communists want the State to possess absolute power. As do the unions, most doctors and the CCP owned media.
If Johnson proposed a plastic bag over your head mandate, Labour would say ‘Two bags’.
Because nothing spreads confusion like allowing people to make their own decisions.
https://www.minds.com/steveghostwords/
You only have to look at this scruffy commie bitch to know the shite she is going to spout
Very similar to the shite being spouted by the govt – they are just being smarter about it, keeping masks by the back door
Kate Green? Who are you? Do you have any qualifications? Do you know any science about masks? Do you have any experience in this field?
To me, this idea looks just like a whim of yours that finds no objective basis anywhere. You don’t get to tell me what I should and shouldn’t do according to your fancy.
I see Labour continue the grand tradition of being utterly impervious to reason, logic and consequences.
One wonders why they are so keen to punish working class children.
https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. (Source)
A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” (Source)
A February 2021 review by the European CDC found no high-quality evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 masks by the general public. (Source)
A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks against virus infection or… Read more »
“I see Labour continue the grand tradition of being utterly impervious to reason, logic and consequences.” I agree and am no fan of theirs, but bear in mind the govt brought in the mask mandates, pushed them, and are really engineering their continuation by any other means – trying to look like freedom lovers while egging on transport providers, shops etc to bring in their own mandates, and saying people are “expected” to carry on wearing them. A truly conservative govt would never have brought them in, and if they’d done so in haste and now realise their mistake, they would be saying that masks are not needed. But they are very much not saying that.
S’funny, I thought the article was about Labours Kate Green, thats why i said “continue the grand tradition”
I didn’t include the UK or most other govts round the world indulging in sheep like behaviour.
The only ones not doing so appear to be Sweden and some Republican governed US states.
Everyone else seems to be indulging in how much damage can we cause / Hold my Beer.
I was making the point that the tradition is not exclusive to Labour
Yes, that’s why i said continue.
If it had been a Tory I would have said the tories continued.
If it had been the mad munchkin of Wales I would have said Labour.
If it had been demented Nicola Stalin of the Krankies I would have said the Natzis.
The main and most devastating evidence is that predictions from mask fanatics of explosions of infections and deaths if people stop wearing masks *never happens*.
So why do they cling to them? It’s like the mystic octopus that never predicts the lottery results yet people still quote the numbers.
We know where Robert Peston, political editor of ITV news, stands on mask wearing:
“If businesses or services impose a mask-wearing obligation, will they be vulnerable to legal challenge, when they exclude non mask wearers? Will the PM give his explicit support to those institutions which insist on mask wearing? Those are important questions for today.”
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1414487809805758464
No attempt to hide it
Tweet back. Those who continue to be scared of their own shadow can invest in FFP3 masks. Since those are available why on earth do you need to inconvenience everybody?
I’m not on Twitter, I just look at it in a browser. I would disappear down too many rabbit holes if I had a Twitter account. I lack discipline.
I found his tweet instructive – it confirms that the media, or sections of it, will only support the govt as far as the narrative continues more or less intact. IMO thinking that the media are just govt mouthpieces is fanciful. If the PM came over all Donald Trump, or denounced the coronamadness for what it is, they would lay into him viciously and try to hound him out of office.
I suppose it’s because she thinks that some Labour supporters are as thick as she and her colleagues are, and thus need to be instructed or ordered about, in every aspect of human life. Just pipe down, dearie, and hide behind your settee while you fill out your extravagant expense chits.
I’d like to refer Kate Green to the reply given in Arkell v Pressdram
Another one of these idiots who qualifies for a well-considered, thorough, evidence-based response:
FUCK OFF KATE GREEN
What the fuck is confusing about “do whatever you want”. it’s possible the least confusing message there is.
Honestly, how do we even manage to get out of bed without the State helping us?
A lot of people don’t, evidently.
I have not worn any face covering since this whole farrago started in July last year. There was no scientific or medical reason why it was necessary to wear something covering your nose and mouth, as was admitted by the WHO and the UK government up to a few weeks before it suddenly became part of the rigmarole of getting outside your own house. As far as I can recall there are a few Cabinet Ministers who have publicly stated that they will be going out barefaced with effect from next Monday – unless those statements were barefaced lies and they have changed their minds.
I do not have a lanyard or a printed card – I have only had two instances when somebody said something, one was a PCSO who was totally ignorant of the law, the other was a similarly ignorant member of the public in my local Morrisons.
I have no problem breathing fresh air – I do have a problem breathing CO2 through a mask or bandana, which may be wet after some time of usage.
How have you been challenged so little, I wonder? I have also never worn a mask and have been using public transport and going into shops, museums, cinemas, galleries, GP surgeries etc etc throughout. I have been challenged literally hundreds of times: for example, today I was challenged in the cafe where I had lunch, in Hobbs, and in Seasalt – a very typical day out for me.
On Saturday I was challenged three times in one cafe – each time by a different member of staff. I have been challenged on three occasions by police officers. I have been challenged a couple of times at the university where I work.
I have come to hate my community.
I have never been challenged. Well, in the school playground, but that’s it. I know why – it’s because I look hard and mean, and not someone you would want to mess with. So no one says anything. I presume you look like someone who people think they can bully, so they try to.
Just ignore the next person who says anything to you. When I say ignore, I mean stare them cold in the eyes and ignore them until they walk away.
Yes, I think that’s absolutely true – most maskivists are grown-up playground bullies, and will only pick on people who they perceive as weaker than them.
You must be in absolute Covidian plague spot, Alethea. Few of us have experienced anything like that sort of hassle. Perhaps your face looks provokingly intelligent and alive, to a zombie?
I’ve probably not been challenged hundreds of times, but still quite a few – although I have had a bloody lanyard for quite a few months because I got so sick of the hassle and this reduces it a bit.
And has anyone else found that if someone employed by a large company says “we’ve been told to ask for proof”, and you put a complaint in, they say that no, it’s definitely not company policy – and yet it carries on happening? Either they have no control over rtheir staff, or they are lying because they know full well that no proof is required but want to make things difficult for the unmuzzled. I know which of those I think is most likely!
Wow, you’ve had it pretty rough. Like you I’ve never worn a mask (nor carried a lanyard/note from my mum), and I’ve quite rarely been asked, let alone had anything amounting to a real challenge. A couple of confrontations, a few discussions, and a few tentative queries breezed past without engaging.
Having thought about it I suspect two reasons for the difference. First, plenty of commenters here have suggested women tend to get challenged more frequently. Second, it’s probably largely just that you are in places to be challenged much more frequently than I am. Never using public transport helps.
Glad all this crap didn’t come up a few years sooner.
I think they must be intimidated by me because hardly anyone has ever said anything. I am a 61 year old woman but I am nearly six foot tall and I probably have a ‘don’t you dare’, school-mistress-y aura about me. They know that challenging me wouldn’t end well for them.
The only place that I have ever been challenged, ironically, was church. I was singing in an entirely unmasked choir practice when I left the group in the interval to walk, alone, up a flight of steps to go to the lavatory. A notorious busybody (the sort who loves herding people around before concerts) followed me and said, ‘You’re supposed to wear a mask’. I smiled, sweetly but icily, and said, ‘I don’t’. She backed off. The choirmaster, who is intensely frustrated by the whole business and very relaxed about the mask nonsense, said nothing. If he had asked the reason for my exemption, I would have told him in private, but it was none of her business and I didn’t intend to give her any credence. Busybodies like that need squashing.
who does she think she is talking for a born and bred Londoner. No, masks should NOT be mandatory and NO other people wearing them merely makes me think how many idiots the city has, like her.