Professor Stephen Reicher, a leading SAGE Psychologist, says the new Health Secretary’s view that people should learn to live with Covid “as we already do with flu” is “frightening”, despite such a large proportion of the population (including the most vulnerable to the virus) having been vaccinated. Professor Reicher criticised Sajid Javid for wanting “to ditch all protections while only half of us are [fully] vaccinated”. “The key message of the pandemic,” he said on Twitter, “is this isn’t an ‘I’ thing, it’s a ‘we’ thing. Your behaviour affects my health.”
The MailOnline has more.
The broadside from the University of St Andrews academic comes after Mr Javid, who replaced disgraced Matt Hancock last weekend after the former Health Secretary was caught flouting lockdown with his mistress, called the health reasons for lifting restrictions “compelling”.
Writing in the Mail on Sunday, the new Health Secretary says the U.K. is “on track” to escape almost every vestige of lockdown on July 19th, adding: “We will have a country that is not just freer, but healthier, too.”
But he makes no secret of the challenges he faces as Health Secretary, admitting that he has “the biggest in-tray I’ve had at any department – and I’ve run five”. …
The Prime Minister is preparing to announce a raft of measures to come into force from July 19th which will “make Britain the most open country in Europe”. Under plans expected to be signed off by the Cabinet tomorrow, fully-vaccinated people will be able to travel to “Amber List” countries including Spain and Greece without having to self-isolate when they return.
The school “bubbles” system that has seen hundreds of thousands of pupils being forced to self-isolate at home will be axed and replaced with daily testing, while hospitality businesses will no longer have to demand that customers provide their personal data or sign in with a “QR” code.
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Yet another member of SAGE aiming to extend their 15 minutes of ‘fame’.
I’m sure that no right thinking person takes any notice of this nonsense any more than they take heed of Ferguson’s wildly inaccurate apocalyptic predictions. These people are nothing but dangerous clowns.
If I could invent a voodoo doll that actually inflicted pain on these brain dead, obfuscating idiots, there would be a row of at least a dozen somewhere in my home that would be attended to regularly every week. It is only articles like John Fairclough’s here on the 4th July that actually keep me sane.
I worked for 30 years as a frontline RN/RM with many brilliant and experienced medics. A few were a disappointment, but largely they were dedicated, practical men and women who enhanced our professional life and taught us a great deal.
After years of puerile public health advice I’m not sure why I thought the PHE version would present a similar learned and considered front during a pandemic, but I did have some considerable expectations. They have, almost without exception, been utterly dismal.
This has been a year of anti-science on the public health front. If Whitty and his few medically trained sidekicks, followed by their acolyte behaviourists and related modellers, had wandered up and down in apothecaries garb and masks, ringing bells and chanting, we would have had just as much sense applied as they actually set forth on their regular lecturn sermons.
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So some people will still wear their Masks in crowded places out of courtesy!! So those of who won’t be will be made to feel bad!! Shame on you Boris and co for that sung virtue signalling statement!! You should have kept your personal decision to your self!!
Never felt bad so far why would I now?
Daily testing of pupils isn’t freedom, or a return to anything worth having. Testing is a nonsense.
I see Reicher from the hallowed but ‘totally divorced from reality’ establishment the University of St Andrews is looking rather worn out and perhaps a tad nervous.
Can he and his pitiful ilk dimly discern the sound of tumbrels in the distance?
I hope so.
And what the hell his profession knows about anything beyond their favourite experiments – such as seeing if an ‘instructor’ can get a ‘subject’ to electrocute a ‘victim’, is quite beyond me.
Presumably he’s had the vaccine. Could explain his very unhealthy look and his continuing fear he might catch Covid.
The key message of the pandemic,” he said on Twitter, “is this isn’t an ‘I’ thing, it’s a ‘we’ thing. Your behaviour affects my health.”
And is it a ‘we’ thing when it comes to care home deaths, and no ICU for elderly covid patients, and cancer treatment stopped, and screening stopped, and children subjected to mental torture and all the other harms we have been subjected to..? What an evil selfish man.. one of those Laura Dodsworth’s book documents.
Millions of jobs lost…careers that haven’t taken off…weddings postponed…lovers denied the chance to meet…places not seen…
This sickj-looking man is the very sympol of the anti-life spirit that has taken hold of academia.
Another devi. I’m famous for five minutes. I’m chief bedwetter. I’m chief doom monger. I’m so so sick of these zpurts.
I think Boris & Co have a big line-up of them. It looks as if they’ve missed the Grinch’s answerphone message:
“If you utter so much as one syllable, I’LL HUNT YOU DOWN AND GUT YOU LIKE A FISH!”
Bit late to this particular party, still, I need to get something off my chest.
Fuck off, Mr “Professor” Reicher. Fuck right off and don’t come back. Perhaps fuck off to Uganda – I gather from today’s news that you’ll fit right in.
Oh, did I forget to tell you to fuck off?
a) The flu is more dangerous than Covid.
b) At most, it’s us versus them, not an I versus We thing.
Saying so confesses what this is really about for him and his lot though: the replacement ofbour unalienable individual rights in the name of utilitarianism, with the leaders of those utilitarian movements calling the shots and having absolute power.
Which is why this must be resisted and overturned again!
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Oh god have just listened to my boss’s going on about how to proceed after the 19th and to say they are on planet Covid is an understatement!! Dear god mass brain washing has happened! It looks like unless Boris definitely says you don’t have to we will still be hands face space!!
I know what I’d be telling him…
He looks like Vic Reeves, or the guy of Mythbusters.
Don’t people like this have have concept of how to operate as part of a key and hopefully secure advisory board to the government? If I had somebody working on such a sensitive project, they’d be shown the door if they kept going on social media to undermine the position. I’ve be allied to medical communications for a long time and I’m pretty sure that health care professionals taking part in advisory boards are bound by NDA.
If they don’t agree with the decisions that the government are making then resign and attack from a neutral position. But don’t make cheap shots from the side lines. It makes a mockery of the entire process.
Especially when all you have to say can be summarised as ‘Lies and Bullshit. ‘
This is how stupid the effer is…
https://twitter.com/ReicherStephen/status/1411636130936672257
Actually thinks comparing a situation where we abandon the Highway Code with Javid’s approach to Covid management is perceptive and a clincher of an argument. Watatwat.
His attempts at philosophy (thinking the fact that as creatures made of genes we can alter our genetic code destroys determinism as phisophical idea) also show what a shallow thinker he is. And yet he wants to rule over us and decide all the health risks we are prepared to take.
Johnson is absolutley useless to have allowed this situation to develop where third rate intellects on SAGE call the shots.
So being able to change DNA frees us from the laws of physics?
Let us not be distracted by those little shits wheeled out in support of the huge tornado of the global shit-show.
The mind-games and the manipulation never stopped.
Third rate intellectuals are all that you can expect because anyone that’s good at their job and intelligent generally gets on with things, whereas ‘frightened’ people like this end up looking for the safety of the public sector or academia.
Is this ignorant and stupid individual from the Goebbels and Mengele Memorial Brigade (GMMB) really worth a comment?
1. He is a psychologist so what’s the fucker doing on SAGE ?.
2. He is a psychologist so what does he know about viruses and epidemiology ?.
SAGE are the enemy
Aye, the enemy, and a very clever one, at that. Saying the masks must be worn to protect others was a master-stroke of social and behavioural engineering.
Can someone PLEASE tell these SAGE (non-)scientists that they must remain silent. Their job is NOT to ‘message’ the public, which has a continual record of unjustified scaremongering.
Another one pushing the obscene vaccine agenda when cures/remedies and preventive measures are well established and proven to be effective in other parts of the world but have been deliberately suppressed by Big Pharma and governments. In other words, the remedies should have absolute priority over experimental vaccines.
Professor Stephen Reicher, followed by psychologist, followed by SAGE says it all. These guys need locking away and forbidden to speak publicly about their “advice” and send it through proper – peer reviewed – channels.
We need ALL behavioural pseudo scientists out of Government now. They are not in the best interests of our mental health or our future as a society. It seems to me they have captured the population through fiendish means and intend to use our vulnerability to further their social experiments.
I did a psychology degree and came to the conclusion that the old ways of strong families and caring communities were the best way forward in crises. We have been broken by people who care nothing for these traditions.
Nudgers by definition think that only they know best. They do not trust people at all and to an overwhelming degree actually detest humans.
Noone should have ever enlisted or tasked them with anything, let alone listen to them.
Ahhh have just read that a trade union leader say people returning to work need to be confident that the work place is “Covid Secure”!! Those two words make me want to scream!! Which bit of learn to live with risk does he not understand!! And the is no such thing as Covid Secure
Saj’s huge in tray says a lot about Hancock and it’s nothing good. Basically he lost the plot to the disservice of us all
Unbe-fucking-lievable! “…this isn’t an ‘I’ thing, it’s a ‘we’ thing. Your behaviour affects my health.”
Here’s a man speaking on behalf of an organisation that is promoting unconsensual medical experimentation on the whole of the UK population; is stifling peoples’ ability to run a business, get an education, worship, get married, socialise, travel, hug an aging relative or attend their funeral, and is encouraging people to cover their faces with rags that are produced, packaged and marketed with no safety regulations, are known to harbour life-threatening pathogens, are causing the wearer to inhale up to 6 times the safe level of carbon dioxide and are scientifically contentious regarding their efficacy. And yet – according to Stephen Reicher – *I’m* a danger to *his* health.
We need a good succinct response to this garbage. Any ideas?
Succinct response –
.303″, 45 calibre or 7.62mm any or all to head / chest
Are they for me MJ or the person subject of my rant? If it’s me, in some ways it would be a mercy killing
Haha, yes Felice. On reflection, that was quite a long sentence wasn’t it?
“Consider yourself lucky that my behaviour DOESN’T affect your health right now” :->
Stephen Reicher, frightened. Well here’s my remedy, crawl back into the hole you came from and stay there…
His 15 minutes of fame, and the gravy train that goes with it, are coming to an end. Sad.
If only.
Quite honestly I couldn’t give a damn what the liars at Sage say. They should all face the consequences of their actions sooner rather than later.
Which is why I think protests should be outside the homes of members of these SAGE committees.
Too many of these so-called experts have driven our response to covid with devastating effects. Believing 128,000 deaths is a badge of honour is totally sick when a different response would have made a big difference. Psychology is seen as a soft science no two would ever agree on anything and have no expertise on covid to be taken seriously. I hope as the new health secretary becomes more established sage will be seen how damaging they were and be closed down or at least be made up of real experts.
How is a psychologist considered any more qualified to pronounce on this then the very intelligent gentleman who just cleaned my windows? Our society is nuts.
Once again I ask, why on earth is anyone still taking any notice of idiots like this?
‘SAGE’, if ever there was a misnomer , it’s that. They ars a bunch of pseudo intellectuals, brainwashed by a Left education system and bent on bringing the rest of civilisation down to their miserable level.
I would prefer to read an article about ivermectin. What a great time to use it. Will the UK ever come out of lockdown? Does anyone else think Sajid Javid decided to treat COVID like flu blah blah blah two minutes after taking the job as health secretary. Of course he didn’t. He is taking his orders from higher up and I don’t mean sage.