If the vaccination of children against Covid is given the green light in England, almost nine in 10 parents will be happy for their own children to be included in the roll-out, according to a new survey released by the Office for National Statistics (ONS). Well over 30% of parents said they were “unsure but probably yes” in favour of vaccination. The Guardian has the story.
The survey of more than 4,400 parents with children under 16 and attending school found 88% said they would definitely or probably agree to vaccinate their child, with just 12% saying they would not favour vaccination.
The survey was conducted in April and May, before the Pfizer vaccine was given approval by the U.K. medicines regulator for children aged 12 to 15 at the start of June. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is expected to advise the Government later this summer on whether to allow children over 12 to be vaccinated.
Professor Anthony Harnden, deputy chair of the JCVI, told the BBC: “JCVI are very aware of the issues surrounding both the pros and the cons of vaccinating their children, which we will talk about in due course, but actually what we need to be absolutely sure is that these vaccines benefit children in some way… so we are looking at this data very carefully.”
But Professor Calum Semple, a member of SAGE, said not enough was known about possible side-effects if children were given Covid jabs.
“Vaccines are safe but not entirely risk-free. We are aware in adults about clots, and there’s some safety data from America showing rare heart problems associated with some of the vaccines. So until that data is really complete for children, I’m not persuaded that the risk-benefit for children has been clarified,” Semple told the BBC, speaking in a personal capacity.
He added: “There’s [a] very nuanced debate going on here but at the moment I don’t think there’s enough evidence to support vaccinating children.” …
The ONS survey found parents with children at secondary school were the most enthusiastic for vaccines, with 53% saying they would definitely support vaccination and just four per cent saying they definitely would not. Nearly 35% of parents said they were “unsure but probably yes” in favour.
Among the parents of primary school-age children, 43% were definitely in favour and 46% were “unsure but probably yes” in favour of vaccination. Just three per cent said they were “definitely” opposed, while a little more than seven per cent were recorded as “unsure but probably no”.
According to the ONS, the most common reasons given by parents opposed to vaccination were that not enough research had been done, or they wanted more information about long-term side-effects or had concerns over vaccine safety.
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Name me one pro then.
They will be allowed to go on holiday with their Vaccine Passport.
Lolz
Exactly. That’s the lure being used.
More money for the drug companies?
Yes, and boosters in perpetuity.
To protect ‘us’. Mwahahaaa …
At least that’s what my (significantly left-leaning) brother tells me. I was literally stunned to hear him say that.
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The overwhelming power of propaganda and censorship.
Literally?
Hole somebody caught you as you fell.
I think you’re fighting a losing battle here, Annie (and yes, I’d rather your side won):
Literally has always been figurative
But the northern pagans believed it was worth fighting even if defeat was foreordained. Defeat is no refutation.
Guilty as charged Annie. I don’t really know why I used the word (I don’t like how it it overly/wrongly used nowadays).
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It was, though, immensely shocking and disappointing, to hear my brother say (with conviction) that ‘vaccinating’ children would be beneficial as it would protect us [non-children].
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If you don’t get the magic jollop into the kids, onward control and monitoring down the generations are impossible. It’s not about public health: we all agree with that by now – don’t we? We all need the QR code otherwise game over. Hence the swivel eyed determination of Blair etc. Kompromat agogo.
Playing God etc.
‘Won’t end well’ – that doesn’t quite cover it.
Truly shocking. Of course, however, this is just trying to make people’s opinions, rather than finding out their opinions!
yes polls are never about the question or its answer, its about sewing the concept in the minds of the polled
Just proves how many people should not be parents
Is it not fairly straightforward? There is a non-zero risk of serious complications or death from the vaccines, whereas children (other than those with specific health conditions) are at no risk of dying or getting seriously ill from Covid. Therefore, how can it ‘benefit’ the children if they are given a vaccine with a small risk in order to protect them against a virus which poses virtually no risk?
but actually what we need to be absolutely sure is that these vaccines benefit children in some way… so we are looking at this data very carefully.
If they need to look at the data “very carefully” then it suggests the vaccine would not benefit children. There is still no long term safety data. This is something which will be very relevant to children.
WRONG! It is disingenuous to point to the small risk of vaccine death, as these small percentages generate hundreds of inevitable real deaths when 9m children are being used as Guinea Pigs. Children 10-16 have 100x (up to 1000x applying the under reporting caveat) more chance of dying from the vaccine than C19, and under 10s have 164x (1640x applying caveat).
There is statistically negligible risk for healthy kids under 16 dying from C19. Let’s go further into these ONS figures, for 10-16 it is 1 in 2.5 million of dying from C19, and for 5-9 age range it is 1 in 5m. There are 9m UK schoolchildren, which equates to around half a dozen expected statistical deaths from C19. Remember that OK!
To date the vaccines are killing 1 in 24,000 according to the latest survey quoted on LDS, they are also causing numerous serious but non fatal side effects (even if Prof Semple wants to ignore the MHRA and VAERS figures). Long term and intergenerational impact is currently unknown.
The UK number of reported vaxx deaths is currently 1356, which can be read as 13560 due to the expected 90% under-reporting, and 27120 if 95% under-reporting as factored into to some surveys.
Out of 9m schoolchildren, using real MHRA and VAERS figures, there will be around 375 vaxx deaths (minimum), up to 3750 vaxx deaths (applying 90% under reporting caveat), and up to 7500 vaxx deaths (applying 95% under reporting caveat).
Even if the final vaxx death figure is the lowest possible at 375, then these kids will have been killed cold bloodedly as surely as marching them in front of a firing squad.
It’s all in the maths – and dumbed down UK doesn’t do maths at school any more – so parents are not scanning these figures at all, and are therefore incapable of making informed existential decisions. It should be a 100% no-brainer to say NO, as there is no meaningful benefit to be gained from the vaccine for kids.
Instead expect hundreds of school assemblies remembering slaughtered school friends (as well as even more left disabled by vaccines in horrific ways C19 simply does not do).
“as there is no meaningful benefit to be gained from the vaccine for kids.”
Except for the culling of millions of “useless eaters” from the worlds population. Remember “6uild 6ack 6etter”
We have to stop this.
You can’t. We are responsible for our own actions and they will be for theirs, suffering the consequences in grief if their child dies or has complications in the future.
This is going to happen whether we like it or not. This could be the biggest clusterfuck in human history if the uptake for kids is as high as adults.
“Clusterfuck” – that had me in stitches
On the day the study came out which confirms that their masking of them was and is child abuse.
You couldn’t make it up.
Why use such a blatantly pro-vax headline? I though this site was supposed to be neutral on the matter of “vaccination”. An equally valid headline, based on the figures quoted, would be “ONS survey finds less than half of parents of primary school children definitely in favour of having their kids vaccinated against covid”
As with so much of what is in the media, it is all a matter of how information is interpreted and spun. I also note that the survey was conduced in April and May. Rather more information about potential harms has come out since then. Given the massive propaganda campaign in favour of the vax and the corresponding mis-information about Covid risks (especially to kids) I’m not surprised if a lot of parents are in favour. But would that be the case if they had more information ?
Sick, sick, sick, sick, sick people who even contemplate allowing some shyster approach their children with the shite in a syringe. Unforgivable! Shame on them!
Psychopaths doing what psychopaths do. Brainwashed parents doing what brainwashed parents do.
I don not believe the ONS or The Guardian.
The Communist Takeover Explained (1966)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3LTrqv3sFE
1 Divide the people
2 CREATE THE APPEARANCE OF POPULAR SUPPORT
They’ve been running the same games for years. That said, there is widespread uptake in the UK, but it’s plausible that part of the campaign to make that so has been #2
I don’t trust these results. I don’t trust these surveys, and I don’t trust the ONS. It is a government funded organisation, telling the government what it wants to hear to justify their policies and decisions.
I don’t believe this for a nano second. remember that opinion polls have been weaponised to influence behaviour. Whether you think Trump was cheated or not, the fact is the polls were saying Biden by a landslide.
I think when push comes to shove you’ll find the parents who actually go through with it is lower than 90%, but I think the 10% who said they would not is a fairly good measure of how many full-on sceptics there are in the UK. There are some pro-vax sceptics – some who post here – but not that many I think. That’s where we are – we have to build from that 10%. It will take a long time. I hope some of the leading lights among sceptics are up for the struggle.
If the worst case scenario on these vaccinations prove correct our percentages will grow through depopulation and sterilisation.
I think the sad truth is that we will be outnumbered for a very long time
Look at how long the USSR lasted, and the CCP are still going strong as they have understood you need to provide bread and circuses
Let’s not get into pro or antivaxx. The Dragon and I are late 60’s and we’re unjabbed. Others choose to take the gene therapy risk. The key here is free choice. I won’t tell you that you shouldn’t and you don’t tell me that I should.
I am all for free choice and I would not normally tell others what I thought they should do in this regard, but the way the vaccines have been developed, tested and publicised, the way information has been suppressed or withheld, the coercion regarding opening up, travel, employment, the suppression of alternative treatments, the deliberate distortion of data about risk vs reward, the portrayal of jabs as a civic duty, are unprecedented and deeply worrying. The choice may tehnically be free (no gun to your head) but the consent is not informed. That should be counteracted.
Anyway, pro and anti vax was incidental to my point which is that the 10% or so who said a definite NO are very likely to be sceptics, and that very few sceptics are likely to have said yes, so the 10% is a plausible measure of support for the broad position of those who post BTL here.
I was vax neutral and until I saw the evidence of how harmful these injections are. It’s hard, when you’re not frightened of the disease, to advocate for a dangerous vaccine more likely to kill you than the virus. Some might say insane.
If they were harmless, I’d consider them a cure to get us out of this mess, but they manifestly are not. I cannot ignore truth.
I was also neutral
“Vaccines” are nothing to do with getting us out of this mess.
C1984 was let loose in order to introduce the “vaccine” and the “vaccine” is dual purpose:
1. to cause illness, infertility and death
2. to bring in passports
We need to be thinking long-term. The G7 shenanigans, the EUFA officials BS are just the initial indicators of how societies are going to be disciplined; the Important Classes and the oiks.
Feudalism is about to make its return.
Can’t afford a new heat pump – tough. Freeze.
Can’t afford petrol for your car – tough. Walk.
People have not heard of the child deaths.
Nor will they, I fear.
Looks like 90% of English parents are plain stupid.
How sad for their kids.
I didn’t read, was the question ‘to save your child from dying would you give them a covid jab?’
You’re probably not far from the truth there.
Get ready to send Notices of Liability to your children’s school leaders, together with anyone else involved with this in your local area. Make them culpable.
Not much consolation suing your school or local authority if your child is dead or disabled.
Well this country has turned its citizenry into mental midgets through a campaign of fear.
If these vaccines do cause fertility issues, and we won’t know for some time, Bojo’s dad’s dream of no more than 25 million UK citizens will soon be realised.
13 year old boy dies 3 days after COVID Vaccine – YouTube
That guy is a paid shill for big Pharma. Look at the production value of his vids. Every case he goes over he comes up with the alternate reason this was caused by. It’s NEVER the policy of vaccinating everybody.
He is not a good guy.
The ethics of this survey are sub-zero but even though general attitude of British citizens has been pretty dim-witted wouldn’t most people just say “yes” to get them to go away.
A good question, though, is: how many of these parents have accepted the false dilemma of you will always have either (a) seriously disrupted schools, or (b) have to vaccinate children?
That’s it – spot on.
The continued schools hokey cokey makes sense now. Get parents so wound up with all the opening and shutting, this year sent home, next week another year, bubbles isolating and so on and eventually, in desperation they agree to their children being injected.
Bloody hell, how utterly sick and depraved are these people. They absolutely KNOW that those not killed will have fertility issues.
God help us.
Rubbish.They can’t possibly know anything of the sort.
The spike protein from the gene therapy finds its way to the ovaries and testes. Why do you think it is there?
These drugs are not conventional vaccines but developed from gene therapies.
Gene therapies have been used in cancer treatments, where the treatment is targeted at the tumour. The tumour will be composed from tissues depending on what type of tissue it arises in. These gene therapies were used to target a specific cancer tissue, so if you have colon cancer it will go there, liver cancer – a different target.
So yes, of course they know which tissues will be targeted by the gene therapy renamed a vaccine.
Propaganda.
Well, my kids are in the Control Group.
As are mine, even though they are both of adult age now.
Perhaps I’m just inordinately thick, but the big question isn’t whether this stuff will prove fatal for children shortly after administration. We know that it will, for some, but not how many.
It is beyond any sense that there is no knowledge of what this may do in years or decades hence, or even months.
None of it is either science or medicine, but a bunch of unprincipled criminals sticking the tail on the donkey; and all with exoneration before, during and after commission of this crime.
Just as well to let the kids mix and catch the virus so as to gain natural immunity. Like an old fashioned “measles party”
I was saying that in March 2020
Some parents we have these days.
Aware of the issues? Is that the same sort of informed consent briefing regarding the “issues” given when an Adult is Covid injected? i.e its experimental, it hasn’t passed tests, it has killed over 1300 and damaged 900.000 people alone in this country. Those issues?
It will only take one child to die or be seriously injured by this experimental drug and the entire edifice will come crashing down. Its a shame that a young life has to be the martyr to save the rest of the population.
I fear a LOT of children will have to die before anyone notices.
Unfortunately, the MSM will not publicise it if it happens. When there is an increase in the number of deaths this winter across the whole population (which I fully expect), the jabs won’t be blamed – a new variant will be the cause and the unvaccinated will probably be accused of spreading it. Buckle in, it’s going to be a very bumpy ride.
Reading this nonsense, what is always missing is exactly what the questions are. Always some imprecise abstract.
Well I am sure the question was a leading one and that the actual % will be lower if this ever comes to pass. But no sceptic would ever answer yes, so I think we now have a good picture of the number of true sceptics – around 10%. That seems realistic to me.
I misread the headline as saying 90% of parents would NOT allow their children to be vaccinated, and was pleasantly surprised, as I didn’t expect it to be quite that high. Then I read the article, and realised my mistake as a sadness lay heavy on my heart. I didn’t expect the number of parents who would allow their children to be experimented on to be that high! How many experts have argued against vaccinating children, and there is literally no benefit to them.
I would like to see what the actual wording of the survey question was, as we know that they are often very leading. Maybe it was phrased something like, “If the vaccine was shown to reduce the chances of your child dying, would you let them take it?”. If not, then I am very concerned about this countries children, and our future in general.
They haven’t been informed that they are experimental, and they would choose not to believe you if you told them. There’s no way out of this for them – we can’t do anything about it. Our kids are just the lucky ones.
I cannot fathom why anyone thinks that a child needs this injection – even if they believe in them for themselves. It beggars belief and I am constantly in a state of shock at the stupidity that surrounds us.
Looks like we’ll have to endure stories of kids suffering from these then. God help us.
I find it surprisng that parents would put their children at such a risk.
Woman (52) DIES weeks after getting her first AstraZeneca vaccine in Australia as debate rages on about the Covid jab’s rare blood clot risks.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9744577/Woman-DIES-weeks-getting-AstraZeneca-Covid-vaccine-Australia.html
I mean ..is it worth it? For a virus with a 99+% survival rate? I know of someone who has had abdominal pain but has chosen to ignore it.
Covid vaccine side effects: Three symptoms following the jab you must not ignore.
PHE warned that if you have any of the below symptoms four days or more after vaccination, you should seek medical advice immediately, these include:
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1457136/covid-vaccine-side-effects-symptoms-headache-shortness-of-breath-bruising
Evil knows no bounds. Given the uptake by the adult population it’s no surprise that they’d happily jab their own kids too I guess.
Not very good risk managers are they. Also reflects a real lack of understanding in statistics
Anyone notice this?
“The survey was conducted in April and May,”
I would bet that attitudes have now changed significantly, with all the serious side-effects being reported.
The Guardian, of course, would like us to believe that what people believed up to 2 months ago is exactly what they believe now.
This was my assessment also when I read the article. The sentence you quoted imo is the most important in the piece.
Vaccines are safe but not entirely risk-free.
They should put that oxymoron on the tombstone of the first child needlessly killed by this very dangerous vaccine (reports suggest 50 times more deadly than the average vaccine).
This is the first time I was aware that ONS conducts opinion surveys. This is unacceptable. Who commssioned the survey? ONS or the Government? Why did they go to ONS? Because they are more credible than YouGov? Opinion can never be fact and if the ONS is being required and paid to undertake a survey, then one has to wonder are they under some pressure. Was the survey commissioned on the basis that it would be made public whatever the result? Or was it only made public after the “satisfactory” result was obtained. Was it part of a wider survey that might have included prompts to fear about Covid?
If any FOI enthusiast wants to follow these questions up with ONS, I think that could be a rich seam.
Perhaps the alleged 90% should consider the views of this British doctor and father of four. Remarkable to find a practicing NHS surgeon willing to make these comments in public. Finally a medic that still believes in ethics. I fear he will soon find himself suspended – but much credit to him for giving his honest views. Where are his so called colleagues ??????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFXiAbVNNs
I don’t trust any statistic from the ONS frankly.
Either the polls are fraudulent or this really isn’t my country any more.
Time to post this again…
Cobblers.
on Mumsnet, home of the Covidians, only about half would vaccinate their children. Still half too many of course, but 90pct is ludicrous.
oh and NO daily mail commenters would.
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Not one chance in hell that my son, (who is 13 and has learning difficulties), will be ‘jabbed’. It is ridiculous to be even considering it in under 30’s, let alone children. What happened to the idea of vaccinating the vulnerable? When did this morph into vaccinating every living soul? A friend of mine has a 30 year old daughter with quite severe learning difficulties who lives in an assisted living facility and she refused permission for her to be vaccinated as her daughter is terrified of needles and needs a lot of time to get used to anyone new coming near her- also pointing out that as she doesn’t go out apart from the odd trip with care workers there was basically zero risk anyway. She was horrified and extremely upset to find that it had been done without her permission or even knowledge, the explanation given was that it was done to protect her carers. My friend is distraught and her daughter was unmanageable for days afterwards but has decided to keep the peace and not complain- I understand that she has enough to deal with and has been worn down by all this, but I would have needed restraining to keep my hands off the carers and would certainly have been to the police to press charges. Chilling.
It hasn’t morphed in to ‘vaccinating’ everyone, it was always the goal….last September what passes for a Prime Minister said “No one is safe until everyone is safe”…echoing that sleazy ‘philanthropist’ Gat es and various WHO reps, UN reps.
Diabolical. In the absence of informed consent, presumably at some ‘best interest’ meeting, the medical / care staff and social workers decided it was in ‘others’ best interest that they mentally and physically assaulted your friend’s vulnerable daughter?
What a society we exist in.
If elections can be rigged then so can polls.
Polls can ask leading questions.. the results can be manipulated..
…and what kind of lard ass bedwetter fills in polls?
Some people do them just to earn beer money…
I met a university student yesterday who was about to have his first vaccine in two days time.
When I asked him how many had died from covid in the UK he thought ten percent of the population. He was astounded when I told him the real percentage.
Another acquaintance developed Bells palsy after the first jab, which did not remit, then went on to get the second injection.
Fear and distorted perceptions of what has gone on drives many people to do absurd things.
Words fail me as to how brain dead and uninformed millions of sheeple are.
There’s a very nuanced debate going on here…
Is there really?
I find this incredible, if true. If it’s so I can only say that there are too many ignorant and selfish parents. Can people really be so obsessed with going abroad that they would take chances with their children’s health. I thought it was a parent’s responsibility to put their child’s needs before their own but it’s obviously changed since my children were young. An easy way around this would be to exempt anyone under 18 from any vaccine passports but, of course, that wouldn’t fit in with The Plan.
Having just listened to the latest interview with the Belgian virologist Geert Vandermin Bossche, the more we vaccinate the more we are heading towards super vaccine resistant strains but no-one will even stop to discuss this issue. I wonder how these parents will feel when the goal of stopping us all travelling anywhere regardless of vaccine status is finally revealed!
‘Vaccines are safe but not entirely risk-free.’
Isn’t that a contradiction in terms?
Any parent considering giving consent to this abomination is not fit to be a parent.
I certainly wouldn’t have done had my children been minors.
CRIMINAL.
Don’t believe the hype of this. The wording of these polls are so far flung it is basically getting the result you want.
Up to a point I agree with you, but as I posted earlier, regardless of the wording any true sceptic would just say NO. So assuming their numbers are accurate (a big if, granted) then true sceptics represent 10% of the population. That feels about right to me.
Almost 90% of British parents need to wake the f up!!
Michael Curzon pushing the vaccines again. In fact only 43% definites in primary schools and 53% in secondary. ‘Probably’ will change once more stats come out. Healthy kids don’t die from COVID. There is no benefit and only risk.