Chris Whitty Warns of Summer AND Winter Waves as Neil Ferguson Raises Prospect of New Lockdowns – But Data Show the Third Ripple is Already Peaking

A summer wave, a winter wave, the threat of new restrictions – Chris Whitty and Neil Ferguson were not holding back yesterday. But for all the doom and gloom, the signs are the summer ripple is already peaking.

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The doom-mongers of SAGE were out in force again yesterday, building on their recent victory in Downing Street to keep stoking the fear. The Independent brings us the latest wisdom from Imperial College’s Professor Neil Ferguson.

The third wave of COVID-19 cases in the UK has already began, according to Government advisers – who said it was possible strict lockdown curbs would have to reintroduced at some point this year.

It comes as a new study commissioned by the Government found Covid infections have increased 50% since the start of May – as the country struggles to combat the rise of the highly-transmissible Delta variant first detected in India.

“We’re at the beginning of [the third wave] now,” said Professor Neil Ferguson, the Imperial epidemiologist dubbed “Professor Lockdown” by the tabloid press.

Ferguson told a media briefing that his latest modelling predicts between 100 and 1,200 deaths a day at the peak of the summer “third wave”, before raising the possibility that restrictions may need to be introduced.

I’m very much hoping we won’t need to reverse course [on the easing of restrictions] – and I suspect we won’t. We will inevitably see cases and hospitalisations rise. But the key is [how] manageable the level is.

Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty gave a similar warning.

Speaking to the NHS Confederation, the Chief Medical Officer for England said that the current upsurge in cases of the Delta variant first identified in India will “definitely” translate into further hospitalisations and deaths.

And he added: “My expectation is that we will get a further winter surge – late autumn-winter surge.

“And that’s because we know that winter and autumn favour respiratory viruses, and therefore it would be very surprising if this particularly highly transmissible virus was not also favoured. So we’ll get the current wave – an exit wave – then I do think most people think that there will be further problems over the winter.

“How big they will be I think is uncertain. That partly depends on [whether] we get any variants that can evade vaccines better, and on how the current wave passes through the UK. …

“We have to just be aware that Covid has not thrown its last surprise at us.”

SAGE’s latest official advice to the Government has been published, projecting a “summer wave” that is comparable to the spring 2020 wave. It writes: “Under most scenarios, this summer wave would be smaller than the January 2021 wave, in terms of hospitalisations and deaths, but comparable to the April or October 2020 waves.” (SAGE here seems to be unaware that it was only testing that made the January surge seem larger than the spring.)

The latest data from Imperial’s REACT study, covering the period May 20th to June 7th, was also published yesterday, showing infections are “rising exponentially” and “doubling every 11 days“.

These alarmist projections are faltering already, however. The more up-to-date data from the ZOE Covid Study App shows the ripple is already flattening, as Sarah Knapton reports in the Telegraph.

The recent Covid spike is already beginning to flatten, latest data show, as experts said Britain was experiencing a “mini wave” which was likely to peak within two weeks.

Latest data from the King’s College ZOE symptom tracker app, which monitors community prevalence, show cases in unvaccinated people rose by just 28% up to June 12th, compared to 114% the previous week.

Professor Tim Spector, lead scientist on the app and Professor of Genetic Epidemiology at King’s College, said it looked as if cases would peak within a fortnight.

The good news is that this isn’t going up as fast as it was. This has been a much better week than it was last week. I think we can start to see an end to this little mini wave in the young and the extra time we’ve got should be able to squash this from getting out of control.

Rates in the North West of the country and Scotland are still going up but you can definitely see signs they are starting to level off. Rates in London look like they are starting to slow down.

If we look at the way past waves have come and gone I would be predicting that this should be peaking around 10 to 14 days time and then start to fall, so by four weeks we are at a much lower level than we are now, and much more manageable.

I think this suggests that this should be the end of this summer wave, it doesn’t mean there won’t be other waves outbreaks.

Positive tests in Blackburn – a Delta variant hotspot – have also begun to decline.

Here are some charts from the latest ZOE report showing the slowing rate of increase.

The difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated infection rates here is striking. However, caution is needed in assuming it is all a result of the vaccines working as it is mostly older people who are vaccinated and older people have experienced a lower infection rate throughout the pandemic. Here’s the latest ZOE breakdown by age, with a clear dominance of the 20-29 age group.

Here’s the age breakdown for the winter surge.

And here’s autumn.

The patterns are very similar in each, with the over 60s consistently low and the 20-40s consistently higher. It’s therefore hard to tell without more detailed breakdown within age groups how much of the current difference is down to vaccines. I’ve contacted ZOE to see if they can provide more detail on this and will report anything I receive.

Last week the models of doom were wheeled out to predict imminent catastrophe, with even a four-week delay to reopening said to do little to mitigate it. Well, now it looks like all these forecasts are once again wrong. In these circumstances, how long can SAGE’s reign of error continue? How long will Boris continue to be taken in by these latter-day Rasputins?

The discontent within the ranks of Tory MPs is reportedly considerable – far bigger than Wednesday’s Commons rebellion of 49 MPs might have you believe. In the Spectator, Katy Balls writes that the anger over this latest SAGE coup extends beyond the “usual suspects” to include senior Government ministers, one of whom told her that “few” members of the Government actually support a delay but consider that it’s “not up to” them.

Ever since the first lockdown, there has been grumbling from Tory backbenchers, often to little avail. The frequency with which members of the party’s Covid Recovery Group object means that their complaints are not taken particularly seriously. This time, however, the Whips have been struck by how many party loyalists and members on the payroll have been in touch to let their unhappiness be known. “Everyone is seething,” says one member of the 2019 intake. “It’s not just the usual suspects this time.”

While cabinet collective responsibility is broadly holding, there are hints of slippage. “I don’t support a delay. Few of us do,” says a senior minister. “But it’s not up to me.”

The worry is that once the end of lockdown has been delayed, it is easier to do it again. The SAGE documents suggest that in a few weeks’ time the number of hospitalisations will be nearing its peak. “If the number of cases and hospitalisations are worse, does Boris really have the nerve to unlock then?” asks one Tory MP.

But if the prophesied deluge turns out to be a mere ripple – as increasingly looks to be the case – what then? Will the Government finally, under pressure from its MPs, kick its bad habit of listening only to a very select group of scientific advisers, all of whom are heavily invested in a particular narrative? We can but hope.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago

All Jobcentre staff are being tested twice a week.

Carers? I don’t know but I will find out.

NHS? Well certainly once a week for front line.

Teachers twice a week.

So case numbers are coming from a captive audience and not perhaps from the general public.

Casedemic proven.

Vampiretroll
Vampiretroll
5 years ago

Just proves all the more that those in power do not want to end this madness. Proves all the more that those so called experts and so called leaders LIED when they said COVID Vaccines would return things to normal. Variants of virus were known before Vaccines started rolling out. This Delta Variant was known since October I read elsewhere. As soon as Vaccines started rolling out, on and on and on the news media outlets kept harping on about these so called variants. The so called Delta Variant was not mentioned on and on until a month ago or so. Around 60% of people in UK are fully vaccinated yet these so called experts in SAGE keep pushing all this BS with threats of lockdowns come fall and winter and if cases go up again! All those so called experts only care about power and control here and do not want this to end I feel. I think it is time people take matters into their own hands reliving their lives fully again tuning out these so called experts and those in power. And I also feel all of us worldwide should travel freely ourselves ignoring all those in… Read more »

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago

Just a thought – as the Police these days are paragons of virtue and abhor Hate Speech, could Matt Hancock’s hate speech directed at those people who don’t want to be injected with an experimental (so-called) ‘vaccine’ be reported to the Police?

https://www.report-it.org.uk/your_police_force

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes indeed it could.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Good point.

chaos
chaos
5 years ago

The NHS has been complicit with the whole covid scam… keeping us locked down.. even killing people..

I now carry a card in my wallet that states:

I have zero faith in the national health service aka the covid health service. In the event of an accident or illness I do not consent to NHS treatment or hospital admission. You are instructed to leave me alone.

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago

Al of this reminds me of the F&M extremes with Blair and Ferguson. Same people, same hysteria and extremes, time they disappeared

WeWantEvidence
WeWantEvidence
5 years ago

Who gives a toss what the “case” count is. So, lots of younger people are testing positive? Well, good. They will add to the herd immunity.

The metric has always been stated as “hospitalisations and deaths”. Those are back in the Summer lows.

Lift ALL restrictions NOW. There will never be a “better” time.

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago

The ONS figures speak for themselves, we don’t need these dodgy people speculating/lying any longer

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
5 years ago

As SARS-CoV2 declines, there’s a ‘wave’ of respiratory viruses re-emerging – https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/952991#vp_1
(paywalled, I suspect). 

This will be used to justify masks and distancing for ever, and will also be conflated with Covid in the public’s mind. One of the comments below the article (comments are restricted to medical professionals) is good and copied in full below:
“The best explanation for the disappearance of many viruses including influenza, rsv, adenovirus and parainfluenza is viral interference. In other words, covid outcompeted or interfered with these other viruses. This is a known phenomenon for centuries. How can we know it wasn’t the masks or social distancing? It occurred before masks/lockdowns were widely used (the other viruses dropped off in March when covid became dominant) and countries that did not have lockdowns/used masks did not see the flu much either.

Here’s some articles that explain better:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/a-viral-mystery-does-one-infection-prevent-another/ar-BB1cZeRx
“The idea that viruses might interfere with each other is old — as old as vaccination. Edward Jenner, the English doctor who helped develop the practice of inoculating against smallpox in the 18th century, noticed it. Inoculation involved infecting a person with the milder cowpox virus. But if the patient had herpes, then it did not work… Read more »

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

I think that we have now seen the most egregious illustration of this evil.

Even if there was something of a crisis, all plans re. the management of an emergency emphasize the need to ratchet down any panic in the population.

Johnnson and his sociopathic sidekicks in fakery have done the exact opposite – ramping up fear with lies when there is absolutely no evidence of a crisis.

This speaks louder than any detail as to the artificial political nature of the ‘crisis’.

Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Very good point. As one post-apocalyptic writer wrote (I think it was John Wyndham), ‘the time to be worried is when there’s only good news in the papers.’

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago

These are very interesting graphs. So the young test positively much more than the old, even pre vaccination.
Is that partly because the older, the more likely to have picked up immunity from some old Covid variant?
Is this also how flu might operate, ie, silently moving among the young in summer, giving them immunity against the coming winter? What a wonderful system natural immunity is.
I wonder whether the oldest figure takes into account the drop in that population?

marebobowl
marebobowl
5 years ago

To add fuel to the fire, the EU announces today air corridors to USA now open. Oh dear, the UK lies are piling up fast and furious. How will they ever get out from under the stack of bs they have created? Remember when the Uk was part of the EU? Just think, you were that close to travelling to the USA. Enjoy your summer holidays in hell, I mean The UK.

mka1221
mka1221
5 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Given that the EU intends to squeeze and humiliate Britain as much as possible, if it manages to open up and stay open, whilst we endure hardships under the Fat Pig Dictator, then it’s a win-win situation for them.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago

Can anyone provide proper evidence of Matt Hancock saying that the NHS should deny treatment to ‘anti-vaxxers’?

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

It seems abundantly clear here:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/17/matt-hancock-hints-nhs-has-a-decreased-duty-of-care-for-anti-vaxxers/
“the duty that we have, when somebody has not been offered the vaccine, is greater than the duty we have when we have offered a vaccine but somebody has chosen not to take it up.”

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

He is not saying that in such blunt terms.

It’s the fact that he feels emboldened enough to float such an idea. In more civilised times, he would have been howled down.

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

He said something similar in Parliament

Drew63
Drew63
5 years ago

I’m in the middle of watching “Clarkson’s Farm” on Amazon Prime. (Quite entertaining, and vastly instructive as to how much highly skilled hard work farming is. As long as you understand Jeremy Clarkson’s particular schtick…)

Midway through the series, set in early 2020, Covid-19 hits. And it’s quite striking how utterly wrong most of the Government “advice” was back then. Clarkson glares angrily at a cyclist riding (alone) along as country lane as if he was watching a mass-murderer or paedophile. Clarkson himself is convinced he is doomed.

Fast forward fifteen months, and the British Government is continuing its campaign of self-righteous idiocy. We’ve all lost a year and a half of our lives, millions of jobs and tens of thousands of businesses have been ruined. Millions more young people have had their educations and careers and social lives destroyed.

But keep on crying “Wolf!” Fergusson, Whitty and the rest of the Confederacy of Dunces.

barrywinn
barrywinn
5 years ago

These people are liars and manipulative psychopaths who need to be locked up and not listened to.

Hester
Hester
5 years ago

Sir Charles wheeler hit the nail on the head about these celeb advisers.
They should be forced to declare their earnings their other areas of income and significant shares etc. And then either advise or be a celeb but not both

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago

Great new euphemism coined by Will here: “heavily invested in a particular narrative” = lying.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

Yep.

That’s a cracker.

MrkMtchll
MrkMtchll
5 years ago

it the Conservative and U-turn party MPs are so discontented, why do most continue to vote for this stuff? Why haven’t they lodged their letters of no confidence with the 22 committee?

BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
5 years ago
Reply to  MrkMtchll

Party greasy pole climbing.

charleyfarley
charleyfarley
5 years ago
Reply to  MrkMtchll

Because these people always put party before country. Always have, always will.

Lockdown_Lunacy
Lockdown_Lunacy
5 years ago

‘Ferguson told a media briefing that his latest modelling predicts between 100 and 1,200 deaths a day at the peak of the summer “third wave” ‘

If I made such imprecise measurements or predictions in my job people would actually die. I would probably be fired before it came to that because it would be quite obvious that the work I was doing was useless and dangerous.

What is the point of models that predict such a pointlessly broad range of scenarios? Oh yeah… none. Well, no ‘public health’ point anyway.

miketa1957
miketa1957
5 years ago

According to Worldometers, the 7-day rolling average peaked at 943 deaths per day in the “first” wave and 1241 in the “second wave”. So a prediction of between 100 and 1200 deaths is effectively “anything from zero to as bad as the last wave”. In other words, 100% useless.

Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago

Five thousand years ago Fergie would have been a witch doctor demanding human sacrifices at stonehenge to improve the harvest. When the harvest didn’t improve he’d say it was because the sacrifices weren’t pure enough, or something.

Paul Weston
Paul Weston
5 years ago

1918-1919 Spanish flu epidemic
1957-1958 Influenza epeidemic
1968-1969 Honk Kong flu epidemic.
2019-2030 Covid-19 (Net Zero Carbon 2030)

So….. the other respiratory viruses mentioned above blew through and disappeared over one year without vaccines or lockdowns. Yet lockdowns and vaccines seem only to delay the disappearance of Covid-19. This is a scientific abnormality, so how can we explain this oddity?

That’s easy: If the threat disappears, government control disappears. So the threat must never disappear.

As Reiner Fuellmich has so astutely noted, vaccines weren’t invented for the virus, the virus was invented for the vaccines.

Vaccines bring with them vaccine passports which will in turn bring Digital ID, which will in turn bring a Chinese Communist style dictatorship based on Social Credits.

gedhurst
gedhurst
5 years ago

These people are demonstrably SCIENTIFIC FRAUDS as evidenced by real-life data. They are demonstrably COMPROMISED by Gates and Big Pharma money. They are demonstrably a bunch of WEIRDOS, as revealed by their behavious over the past year.
STOP listening to them!

FrankFisher
FrankFisher
5 years ago

Any normal country would already have executed these people

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

It says something for the crisis we are in that your is a completely sane comment.

John001
John001
5 years ago

The under-30s who have had the disease *should not* get jabbed.

It makes side effects more likely, according to Emeritus Professor Beda Stadler. See recent interview with Ivor Cummins.

I’d trust him over Whitty & Vallance any day.

iane
iane
5 years ago
Reply to  John001

The under-30s should NOT get jabbed, period!

bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
5 years ago

Wave. Wave. Wave. Wave. Almost like you cannot actually stop the sea…..

The story of King Canute.

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
5 years ago

Maybe last night’s defeat for the Conservatives will now concentrate a few minds and ditch doom-mongers like Whitty, Vallance and Ferguson?

donald
donald
5 years ago

They only switched from Tory to Liberal Democrat – both parties voted for another four weeks of misery and doom.

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
5 years ago
Reply to  donald

Indeed. But these creatures lust power, and when the power source is threatened they react, particularly the Conservatives.

Lockdown_Lunacy
Lockdown_Lunacy
5 years ago
Reply to  donald

I think the Lib Dems abstained. But yeah, they are total lockdown loonies too. They all are.

donald
donald
5 years ago

They abstained on the first division, and then voted for the government on the second.

mka1221
mka1221
5 years ago

I don’t think so. This was the ‘Nim-By-Election’. The Lib Dem candidate stood on a pledge to fight HS2 and large house building projects in the constituency. Any Covid aggrievances or Remain sympathies amongst the voters are pure conjecture.

It’ll be the same all over the South East for the Tories, when I was more involved in the Party I was warning them for ages that their ‘traditional’ voters won’t buy into development projects because so many of them are NIMBY’s. Countless meetings I attended were chock full of irritated pensioners who didn’t want their views spoilt by major planning decisions for the area. The selfishness of that particular generation is astonishing; it’s why many have backed the lockdowns so fervently. They simply do not care for younger generations, they don’t want to give them a chance in life (affordable housing, more schools etc) and they sit at home on their pensions and investments whilst the rest of the economy burns to a cinder.

donald
donald
5 years ago
Reply to  mka1221

The Tory candidate, Peter Fleet, ‘opposed’ HS2, but seemed to have given up already. He said that all the main parties in Westminster supported HS2, and many local voters must have known that Peter Fleet had been working for the car industry most of his life.

mka1221
mka1221
5 years ago
Reply to  donald

True, the Tories only suffered a few losses in the local elections in Buckinghamshire in May – perhaps not indicative enough to reveal the convictions of the people of the county, as I believe the turnout was even lower. But I wouldn’t underestimate NIMBYism, it was always fervent on the doorsteps when I was out and about.

Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  mka1221

You won’t get affordable housing by building more houses! You can only do that by a. restricting lending, b. reducing immigration and c. building social rented housing.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

I’d like to see that formula explained in more detail.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

You must be joking!

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago

Unlikely.

Pantsdown, Whitless and Unbalanced owe their positions to Gates, WEF et al and so their removal is not within Bozo’s remit.

ebygum
ebygum
5 years ago

Surely these graphs can’t be true! The over 60+ are raging out of control…oh wait, they are flatlining…never mind the facts, quick get all the care workers vaxxed immediately, the walking postules of disease!

Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
5 years ago

Whitty by name. Whittle by nature.

imp66
imp66
5 years ago

Are the Co-vid coated scales finally dropping from Simpson ministers’ eyes? SAGE must be given the boot. This boll*cks cannot be allowed to continue!

imp66
imp66
5 years ago
Reply to  imp66

Simpson??? Are fact-checkers screwing with my predictive text too!?

Paul B
Paul B
5 years ago

These fucking clowns, everytime they emerge whatever was happening has already happened.

Time to lockdown past the peak no. 4?!?

When can we start the hangings?

Beowa
Beowa
5 years ago

Gove who has been described as Mendacious by Cameron, and he should know a liar if anyone does, has confirmed July 19th as Freedom Day
The voters of Chesham and Amersham certainly sent Johnson and his CON government a message but is Johnson complex enough to understand it ?

donald
donald
5 years ago
Reply to  Beowa

The voters of Chesham & Amersham simply deserted the Tories for the Liberal Democrats – whatever they voted for, it certainly wasn’t against SAGE or lockdown. The Liberal Democrat MPs voted with the Government and Labour.

A Heretic
A Heretic
5 years ago

his latest modelling predicts between 100 and 1,200 deaths a day at the peak of the summer “third wave”

Come on, how is that a prediction? That’s basically a range from “nobody dying of covid” to “everyone who dies will be dying of covid”.

and who are these people going to be anyway given all the sheep have been dipped?

MadJock1
MadJock1
5 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

It’s the classic undergraduate science / engineering student trick when writing a lab report and finding they have messed up the experiment. First draw the line on the graph for the answer you want. Now plot the experimental data (random scatter) which won’t fit the required line. To fix the problem simply select error bars for the data that are long enough to overlap the drawn line – presto – you can get the answer desired. There is one slight down side. This technique virtually guarantees the assignment will fail and the student will have to do it all over again.

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