Members of SAGE are out in force today, warning the Prime Minister that Britain should not unlock on June 21st because of the risk posed by the Indian Covid variant. Professor Neil Ferguson said on Wednesday that this strain could result in restrictions needing to be “tightened“, despite the recent increase in Covid cases not being matched by an increase in deaths. Following further pressure from other members of the advisory group today, the Prime Minister has said that Number 10 may have to “wait” for more data before pushing ahead with ending the lockdown. The MailOnline has more.
Top scientists have called for Downing Street to delay next month’s lockdown-easing because of the spread of [the Indian variant], which has been found in half of England’s 300-plus local authorities.
SAGE member Professor John Edmunds said he would advise Boris Johnson not to take the next step as planned because “at the moment it looks a little bit risky”.
Meanwhile, fellow adviser “Professor Lockdown” Neil Ferguson warned the plans to ease restrictions hang “in the balance”. He said the now-dominant strain would trigger a “small third wave” but that the next two or three weeks would be “critical” in deciding whether it was safe to move to step four on the roadmap.
But one of the Government’s top scientists today hailed “encouraging” data that showed hospitalisations remain low despite cases having ticked up in every region except the East Midlands. However, Dr Yvonne Doyle, Public Health England’s Medical Director, said they have risen slightly and that they were “concerned” about the Indian variant.
Discussing the threat of the Indian variant during a visit to a hospital in Colchester this morning, Mr Johnson said: “As I have said many times I don’t see anything currently in the data to suggest that we have to deviate from the road map. But we may need to wait.
“Don’t forget the important point about the intervals between the steps of the road map, we put that five weeks between those steps to give us time to see what effect the unlockings are having.”
Mr Hancock admitted he “desperately” wanted to proceed with plans to drop the final set of lockdown restrictions next month but ministers would only do that “if it’s safe”. He will address the nation tonight in a 5pm Downing Street press conference.
In a statement that suggested lockdown could continue until every man and his dog has been vaccinated, the Health Secretary said: “Our vaccination programme has reached 73% of the adult population, but that means that more than a quarter still haven’t been jabbed.”
43% of adults have had both jabs, but that means that more than half are yet to get the fullest possible protection that two jabs give.
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Todays figures -damn “The number of people with coronavirus in the UK has gone up by 3,542 in the latest 24-hour period, and another 10 people have died with COVID-19, government figures show.”
Irrefutable evidence why we need another lockdown…FFS!
So what? “The number of people with coronavirus…” is (a) only a positive test result, not an actual illness, and (b) hovering around the false-positive rate anyway.
And “another 10 people have died…” WITH Covid-19, not necessarily “from” it. Either way, it’s not even a rounding-error amongst the 1800 or so deaths every day in the UK.
The “Indian variant” appears to be no more serious/lethal than the common-or-garden variety, it’s just a useful “peg” for the lockdown fanatics to hang their control-freakery on!
Enough is enough.
Don’t the lying bastards realise we know they’re lying?
Yes, of course they do – but, so what, if the majority of people are still going to vote Conservative and worship Boris? It’s tyranny and totalitarian control, probably backed by China – where do you think the money is coming from?
You and I and others reading these comments know they’re lying, but countless numbers of the great unwashed don’t. The colossal ignorance of the great majority of British people feeds Sage and makes them impregnable. Most people can barely read.
Cognitive dissonance.
They know we know, and they don’t care.
Saw a great phrase in AIER describing a Sage like medical officer as “power drunk quacks”. That’s what they are.
Soon the drive to jab children.
Its quite possible, if not probable, that ALL the people dying now are just false positives so not even dying ‘with’ covid.
The number of people who have tested positive via notoriously inaccurate testing methods have gone up by 3,542, almost certainly due to the surge testing being conducted in a desperate attempt to find more live virus, and another 10 people who in the last 28 days tested positive via the same notoriously inaccurate test methods, but who most likely were suffering from multiple other morbidities, have sadlidied.
FIFY
Why don’t people just effing stop testing.
Because they don’t want us to have our freedom back.
I have said this all along no test, no find.
“The number of people who have tested positive via notoriously inaccurate testing methods “
Have you seen what Kary Mullis, Nobel prize winner and the inventor of PCR said? Basically, Fauci is a twat, the test is not designed to diagnose disease and with a cycle rate over 30 it will detect anything and everything because it’ll find one molecule! This my friends was all said BEFORE COVID and then he died a couple of months before COVID hit. Coincidence? Maybe.
Eliminated, without doubt. Had he been alive he would have protested vehemently against the use of the PCR test for diagnosing Covid. Couldn’t have that spoiling the plan ! How can people be so utterly thick not to see this?
Died aged 74 of pneumonia. Believable.
Just.. he was an extremely fit man for he’s age.Who made the prognosis. I don’t believe in coincidences when ruthless bastards with an agenda are involved..
So every time Wancock utters this rubbish about PCR testing, demonstrably he has lied – QED the Domster!!
CASES determined with a high Ct cycle
We always knew they were looking for excuses not to open up….
And CASE of WHAT???? mild symptoms?? zero symptoms?? or someone needing emergency treatment in hospital? there is a difference
Exactly – a case of what? What is there to be so damn scared of? Utterly absurd.
SO????
I’m beginning to think that there are Covid test junkies who are getting tested multiple times.
You are correct. The sales director at my wife’s company has been double jabbed, and he takes a LFT twice a week “because it is free”. He has no idea how stupid he seems to everyone else (well, to my wife anyway), but he is of an age when he has been brainwashed; he is 47. And he lives in rural Devon, and works in a modern office in a manufacturing company also in rural Devon. He is mad, or mental.
And certainly dangerous.
Indeed he is an absolute bell end.
Is a bell end what Americans would call a ding dong, meaning a very stupid person? Seriously asking.
It refers to the tip of a part of the male anatomy located around the groin.
……ahem. Pardon me.
The shape of the glans of a penis.
I believe.
Haha, its an insult one step up from dick or knob and, has been said by others on here, also refers to male genitalia.
Poor man – needs help and not for Covid!
I’m from Devon and would gladly kick him out of the county.
Ditto; Shropshire.
Me too. And I would seriously suggest that ‘beancounter’s’ wife finds herself a new job. A company with a sales director that thick will go to the wall soon
That’s why a lot of companies went to the wall, even pre Covid.
Me too.
Her boss is just like the sheep in my field, runs where the dog wants them to go!
Or they just make the shite up.
There is a strange delight for those
Who like a stick shoved up their nose.
Then there’s the anal test.
Whatever turns your crank, I suppose.
Lodger worked at the non symptomatic test center until last week. He had the same middle aged and elderly people coming in 2-3 times a week ‘to be safe’. Some need the tests for work like our taxi driver neighbour, but many have just been terrified by the evil propaganda.
The schools are still testing each week are they not?
Twice a week at my granddaughter’s school of 1,500 pupils although there hasn’t been a “positive?” test for 8 months.
Can someone point me to the data that shows how many people who have had covid have now recovered ? What ? What ? It’s still not being published !
It’s too high, it doesn’t fit the narrative.
They don’t mention T-cell immunity either, which they did at the beginning. Then the vaccines arrived – and no more talk about naturally acquired immunity! It’s all so transparent – but none so blind, etc. And still people get jabbed despite having recovered from the virus ‘just in case’. I’d like to find this Justin Case and shake him till his antibodies rattle.
I caught Covid and came through at 55. I have not had the jab and will not. One of my drinking buddies (two doses because of age and bad heart) thinks I am mad. He doesn’t accept that the real thing is better than a copy every time. The jabs will be pushed by governments until they use every last one they have signed up for. Ditto test kits. What a better way to prove they where essential at the public cover up, er public enquiry
These 10 deaths I keep hearing about were not all on the same day. It’s bad enough that the media are wetting the bed over 10 deaths as it is but it’s just not true regardless!
Been downloading and graphing NHS data for a year. The media are a disgrace/
I tried to do the same…..until I lost the will to live…
Yes, they are a disgrace but have no intention of stopping – they’re making tons of dosh out of this and will gladly facilitate the government in their lying.
Does it show how many people have died of Cancer, Heart disease or even flu/pneumonia in the past 24 hours. I bet not as the figures would drawth the “WITH covid” deaths
sorry that should be spelt dwarf you know my head is now so full of woke crap I thought I could not spell it this way as the word had probably been banned for causing offence spelt that way.
I do hope that on Saturday more than a million people march in London and stick their middle finger up at Boris and the SAGE bedwetters.
I would be there myself but I will be taking the family off for a well-earned half-term holiday, assuming there is no new lockdown before then (have already had to change destination once).
Good on you. We all need to get some time out when we can. I’ve not been on any marches so far because of mobility issues but I’m going to do my damnedest to get there this time, even if I only do part of it. My husband and brother have been attending them, and they say it is incredible the energy and vibe, and the joyfulness. I hope it’s this that’ll keep me going!
Good luck. It sounds as if you will be buoyed up by the atmosphere and it’ll help to keep you going.
I think it’s a mistake to call them bedwetters. They’re calculative evil bastards.
You are right. Unable to edit the post now, sadly.
In America the only sort of protest that works is a violent one.
The ones the libs call “peaceful.”
Don’t forget the good old fashioned British 2 fingers.
Me too, off with Mrs JB and daughter to the Lake District, sans masks and 2 metre measuring stick. No matter how big the march, it won’t be reported in the MSM because they are the governments pocket due to government being their biggest advertiser and pulling their strings.
My son and his friends are going. They are travelling a long distance so I hope they can get parking. I warned him to keep within a large group and away from the edges where stragglers can easily be picked off. Being partially disabled I cannot join them, or I would.
He came down from the mountain and he carrieth (dunno) a white board and the white board command
1 Thou shall kill the elderly in the care homes
2 Thou shalt not covet the pig dictators bit of stuff
3 Thou shall let cancer patients die
4 Thou shall close the boozers
5 Thou shall not worship false gods other than the one true god Piers Morgan
6 Thou shall lock up everybody
7 Thou shall not bear false witness unless thou be Matt Hancock
8 The TSG shall smote thee with long batons
9 Thou shall not sit on a park bench
10 Thou shall inform on thy neighbour family and friends
Not necessarily in that order
I love no 7!!!
Dear Fatty – Jog on
A case doth not a coffin make…S’all bollox IMHO..(sayeth the Lord somewhere..sometime).
It only seems like yesterday TY was entertaining the idea Johnson could be a closet lockdown sceptic…
It’s possible that he is a lockdown sceptic but he’s not actually in charge.
Love the way Boris Johnson still believes the people are hanging on his every word. Have the Westminster Bubble not noticed that most of us are already back to normal and carrying on regardless? We are done with it. If he doesn’t do away with masks, social distancing etc on 21 June he will become even more of a laughing stock than he already is.
Sadly his party did pretty well in the recent elections
The vaccine rollout is considered a success by most people I speak to
They did well because Sir Smear Smarmer offered an even worse alternative.
Except in Wales, where they voted for a shoddy imitation of Stalin because the Welsh love to be slaves. The very word ‘Welsh’ originally meant ‘slave’.
Wales, where men are men and the sheep are careful
The boys too..
“Except in Wales, where they voted for a shoddy imitation of Stalin”.
They lowered the voting age to 16, which NO straight government would be stupid enough to do unless it had a sinister agenda to subvert the election. I am part-Welsh, and none of my Welsh relatives and friends can stand Drakeford, especially since declaring Newport a ‘sanctuary city’. It’s now become ‘tent city’ and people go elsewhere to shop nowadays (numerous shops have shut down anyway). It bears little resemblence to the town I lived in 40 years ago.
We can no longer trust election results; they’ve become very clever at disguising fraud, ever since we won Brexit. Look at London (if you can bear to).
You talk to the sheeple then!
Any fucking excuse they can think of they are going to use. Absolutely ANYTHING will do.
Off on holiday next week, I care not for any of their latest and greatest bullshit rules. Never have, never will.
Maybe SAGE should become a political party seeing as they seem to be running the country!
Have a wonderful holiday, and know by doing so, you contribute to the wellbeing of many.
“Maybe SAGE should become a political party seeing as they seem to be running the country!”
No that’s the BBC
No, that’s Our Amazing NHS.
The horror is that if they were a political party plenty of people would vote for them
So hospital cases have risen “slightly” have they? Nothing at all to do with side effects of jabs, or anything? Go shove your insidious jabs up your @*se!
Oh. Fuck. Off. You. Fucking. SAGE. Cunts!
Couldn’t have said it better.
Just had enough of these bed-wetting, arrogant shit bags. Sigh …
An extra fuck off or two, perhaps?
Crude. But you speak for many!
Well and sensitively put.
Absolutely took the words out of my mouth and I very rarely use profanities (honest) though I seem to have used them more often in the last 15 months.
That made me feel better just reading that! It could easily become my mantra.
My sister lives on Hayling Island. The one road on & off gets silly as soon as the sun shines!
Close the Bridge & live free.
So when 100% of the population is vaccinated, then the crisis will officially be over and all restrictions will be removed. Guaranteed.
They’re not saying it in black and white, but they’re insinuating it so that you can reach the conclusion yourself.
Then…
They’ll do exactly the same thing that they’ve done repeatedly in the last 18 months. Claim there is a new piece of evidence that makes it impossible to lift all restrictions. They’ll move the goalposts and sheep will bleat, and a few lockdown sceptics will point out the bait-n-swith for the nth time, and the media will fall into step and we’ll just go round and round and round and round ……
Yep. All in order to get the dozens of booster shots in peoples arms.
Sounds about right.
I’d be surprised if they manage to “vaccinate” more than about 90% of the 18+ population, and I think that’s a stretch. Thus, they will have a near-permanent blackmail excuse, and when people already injected, get pissed off with endless calls for more “jabbing” (vile word), that’ll be another.
Uh, huh. New improved variants, will mean new (didn’t see this one coming) new jabs! Whoppee. More money all round for all the shit weasels invested in this! Their evil coercion and denial of people’s rights, freedoms, and body autonomy are absolute crimes against humanity and they WILL pay for this one day!
And new born babies will have to be vaccinated to keep it to 100%.
Indeed … But why stop there my short sighted friend? Let’s vaccinate fetuses in the womb. But wait, there’s still a risk , what about all the un-vaccinated sperm in the “banks”?! Can’t be too careful, now can we?
Then will come the mandatory top ups.
And passports.
And I think a new virus, if profits and control seem to fall. Any hostile country can release a gain of function virus anywhere in the West, and watch it cripple itself all over again.
During the next 3 weeks, look out for a sudden announcement of an unexpected shortage of vaccines accompanied by a reluctant delay to 21 June freedom day, due to ‘risk’ from 25% of the population still not jabbed. Already in the plan to keep us controlled.
Mark my words.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all. They can have a permanent shortage as far as I care.
And bi/tri- annual vaccines will become the norm, then the law, and as inevitable as taxes. Until one day the human race ceases to exist, as all natural immunity dies and we are left unable to fight even the slightest, once-inconsequential infection.
A bit like ze Germans, who were promised parts of their miserable life back under an incidence number of 50.
As soon as cases dropped fast towards that figure, the health secretary Jens Spahn, same type as Hancock, just even more gay and corrupt, lowered that figure to 20.
Without any reasoning, of course.
They are taking the pi** out of us, or rather out of the jabbed Covidians.
all a bit Catch 22 isn’t it…..
As long as hardly anyone is dying or getting seriously ill, the number of “cases” matters not one jot, Indian scariant or no Indian scariant
But as sure as night follows day, it was always a given that they’d magick up a new scariant as an excuse for keeping their “measures” in place. And whaddaya know …. here we are.
My money’s on ‘no Indian scariant’ – officially, it has been deemed not to exist
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1717876
Wonder what the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner thinks of Hancock & co now?!
How is it acceptable to say “Indian variant,”but racist to say “Chinese virus”?
The Chinese are deadly evil. When they released the ‘Chinese virus’ aka ‘a disease so deadly you have to be tested to know you have got it’ (TM)(Pat Pend) in late 2019, they also managed to ensure it appeared in sealed water samples in Europe dating from March 2019. Then they gave a few vapers the ‘deadly Vaping disease’ so eerily similar to covid. Then they forced all the western governments to impose never-ending lockdowns, to greatly enrich insiders with PPE and testing scams and to give blanket immunity to Big Pharma.
The only Chinamen invovled in this are the CEOs of Big Pharma, their bought-and-paid-for PR people at WHO, and the likes of Cummings, Vallence, Hancock, Fauci, etc.
Just watch the cases get dialled up between now and June 14
Which is exactly why they’re doing all that “surge testing”. The agenda couldn’t be more obvious.
As long as people do not give in on their principals and endure the discrimination the globalists will impose on vaccine sceptics then they will eventually fold. They will never achieve their true desire of mandatory jabs and are too weak to stop the will of the public. They will simply pass the responsibility of pressuring the public ontonprivate businesses who will quite frankly eventually give in to lack of business as well as the sheer operational hassle of checking for statuses. You only have to look at the total failure of the excelsior pass introduced in NY.
It is now up to the public to remain strong. Never underestimate how stupid the other side is.
Correct.
Boris Johnson is Prime Minister and leader of our nation
Apologies there is no other way of saying that
did you have to remind us though ?
Oh dear – He is a sad excuse for a man let alone Prime Minister – He has Zero Guts or backbone… . The only thing that could be worse is that Vile Evil Gove somehow gets the job ….. I would say Hancock too but he is finished — second rate man and second rate liar
At least he isn’t a druken sott like his hero Winston ‘Gas the Arabs’ Churchill.
If your shit isn’t itchy enough already today I present you scrotum face on Vax passports: https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/1ac6dfcd-827d-4aff-8093-de6b8fe2c082
Some woman “We know that people get re-infected, around 20% within that time frame” (180 days). Jesus wept we are doomed.
And today, in Bahrain,. a new lockdown.
Malls, shops, cinemas, indoor and outdoor restaurants, gyms, etc, closed for two weeks.
The unbelievable thing about this is that access to most of these has been restricted to fully vaccinated (i.e. 2nd shot plus two weeks) since the end of Ramadan two weeks ago.
And Bahrain is reported to be 45% fully vaccinated. That would include 100% of the older high risk groups.
So.
Government Minister: Oh no! A wave of infections! Whatever will we do?
Epidemiologist charlatan: I know, let’s close all the places that only the vaxxed can go!
Government Minister Excellent, superb idea.
Is there a word for beyond Pythonesque?
What is the point of vaccination?
Off topic but I’ve just returned from having an aortic aneurysms examination (its something men are offered in their 65 year which I will be soon). I loath masks and refuse to wear one where ever I can and have an exemption card.
I have had arguments with my GP (on the phone and not face to face) and with the reception staff over not wearing a mask etc. However as a friend died very suddenly from an aortic aneurysm a few weeks ago I thought I’d attend and wear a snood as a face covering. I bought the snood early last year when it looked like face masks were to be compulsory everywhere. I bought this snood purely as it was the most absurd face covering I could find, it has a very loose weave and very thin, you can clearly see through it and it wouldn’t stop flies let alone viruses.
Went to the surgery, no problems with my “face covering” and I was the only person in reception.
The best thing about the snood was I was laughing at the absurdity and how ridiculous the heath system has become.
There’s a lady who works in our local supermarket, who’s a fellow sceptic. Her mask is home made and of fabric so thin you can see her bright red lipstick through it
She was told that unless she had a provable medical issue she had to wear a mask. I told her to claim anxiety as you can’t prove/disprove that. Still, her mask is the only one that’s made me smile.
I made a lace mask for the same reason. But if absolutely driven to it, I have an indelible ink pen, with which I write in capitals on the mask “masks don’t work”.
”more than a quarter still haven’t been jabbed” he said.
What will they do when there is 5 or 10percent who won’t be jabbed? Round us up? Once they said only the vulnerable, then 80% of adults now it must be 100% and children too.
That’s probably when the full force of vaccine passports will be brought in. The loss of custom of the 5% or 10% who are not vaccinated will be considered low enough collateral damage to not bother about.
They desperately need 100% jabbed. Otherwise the next deadly strain (really deadly this time) will be easily identifiable as ADE when the unjabbed survive.
That’s what I’ve come round to thinking. If, in the winter colds/flu season, only the jabbed are badly affected, it will be hard to explain that away using the latest variant excuse.
I really liked her once and felt she was honest with a lot of integrity but then she said the science had changed on masks! Even she could be bought.
I noticed exactly this! I thought she spoke with sense at the start of all this…and then she trotted out the nonsense.
According to the news tonight Boris has said he still doesn’t see anything in the data to change the road map.
It is starting to look like he might be a little Covid-resistant.
Lol
He’s resistant to truth, courage, leadership, honesty, rationality
Bollox.
Quite frankly, I think by the 21st of June, people will quite rightly, be making their own judgements and assessing the risks. Dithering Johnson and co., will be side-lined.
Perhaps that is what they want so they can blame the public and say they did their best to warn us?
No, they want to control us
Up to a point
I have continued to see close friends and family regardless of restrictions but I can’t easily ignore track and trace, masks everywhere, travel restrictions, mandatory testing and vaccine fascism
My life is the same as it was under the first phase of lockdown
I do virtually none of the things I used to do
I can’t see that changing
Wake up, wake up. There’s no point being reasonable. This is about ending democracy and removal rights.
Is this Boris Johnson the Lockdown Sceptic? The Prime Minister of the UK – the bloke in charge? Or is there some other Boris Johnson who is a Lockdown Sceptic, not in charge of the government? It’s so confusing.
It is not a strain, it is a variant.
The reality is if the government doesn’t open up now because of a variant causing virtually no deaths then it sets a precedent for permanent restrictions.
My main concern is that as a country we haven’t yet decided what to do about winter.
The seasonal increase in deaths of the elderly (before now acknowledged as an inevitability, not a tragedy). Deaths will of course increase from September onwards and there will be shrieks of protect our NHS etc etc. Then maybe we’ll reopen in the spring after another lockdown.
Over 85s are the fastest growing age demographic in the UK, which means as far as votes are concerned they will almost always vote for whatever they think leads to their own self-preservation i.e more lockdowns.
Without a bold leader who speaks truth (imagine that), no one will dare change this new narrative. How to escape? I half wonder whether the only way out is a huge global financial crash, which isn’t unreasonable to assume will happen in the coming years. It is difficult to see how an end to this madness can occur by democratic means as the old grow older and want every waking minute given to them at the expense of all others, including their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren.
Until we embrace our mortality and accept we all must die there is no end to this. We often pursue life at all costs, even if it means the continuance of a life that will be painful to that individual and to their families. To die suddenly of a heart attack aged 80 should be seen as a good way to go, not a tragedy. Of course we mourn for who that person was, but as a society we must not and cannot say it is devastating…
As an aside to that, my own personal view is that the pursuit of immortality is connected to the lessening influence of Christianity and believing in heaven, but that’s another story and debate
The future is rather bleak
I’m always having a rant about people not dieing of old age anymore. When I was a child all old people died of old age, now it has to be something dementia, heart disease, cancer (covid) etc etc . We have to die at some point preferably when we’re old. All the old people I know (apart from my dad) are as miserable as fuck anyway.
Dying of old age is still an acceptable death reason on a death certificate for people aged over 80, below 80 it tends to be questioned and a more specific reason is required. To some extent not accepting ‘dying of old age’ is the fault of the people who demand to know why someone has died even though they are over 80.
Carrie isn’t my real name. I was working on getting shot by a jealous husband in my 90’s but give me a gun and I’ll swing for Hancock now.
This is a deliberate wrecking tactic in order to abolish sovereign currencies, bring in vaccine passports & begin the serious business of depopulation.
Mornin’ Dr. Yeadon,
I’m one of your biggest fans – I pretty much hang on every word you utter and repeat them to all ‘n sundry at every opportunity. That said, I’m concerned by comments like “. . .the serious business of depopulation.” I’m not saying you’re wrong; it’s a plausible explanation and one that I’m sympathitic too. However, to the MSM, politicians and those in favour of lockdowns and associated restrictions – talk of depopluation is at the extreme edge of the conspiracy theory bell curve. It’s up there with Bill Gates injecting us all with nano chips. In the eyes of many, this is full on tin hat freakery that can just be dismissed instantly without the need for logic, reason or sound argument. IMO, it undermines all the really cogent points you make that are rooted in established science – real science – not the junk science spoon fed to us by the media. Therefore, until you’re able to provide empirical evidence to support your theory, please, please bite your lip and keep schtum regarding depopulation. Just stick to the science you know and understand – based on your experise and years of experience working in the pharmaceutical industry.
I hope you take my comments in the spitit they are intended; as I say, I really am a huge admirer of yours and don’t want to see you discredited by those who regard you as a thorn in their side.
We all agree this is about control. We all can see they intend to jab the world. We can see absolute lies and breathtaking ruthlessness,
Who is already clearly benefiting? Capitalism without moral controls, in the form of pharmaceutical companies, testing companies, the makers of “protective clothing”. Communist China.
What will/would absolute control be used for? Because it will be used, if a vaccine passport is introduced worldwide, No good purpose, we can be sure, because of absolute power’s known results.
Gates comes across to me as naive, if he befriended Epstein after his first conviction, It seems probable that for him it is all about legacy and self importance. He is certainly in favour of more birth control – not for himself, of course. That something like the contraceptive chip whose research he was funding in 2014. could in a few years be added to the vaccine passport under another storm of terrifying psy ops re climate change isn’t science fiction any more. It’s an easily imagined possibility, especially if you begin to look at what “scientists” say about unstoppable population growth.
But the more probable scenario is that Gates’ vanity projects will in the end simply be taken over by China for their own purposes, and it looks as though the West will go along with that. China is constantly focused on how it exploits this for its own purposes. Unless there is a big wave of deaths clearly attributable to the jabs which the people can’t miss. 0r some currently unseen big event which changes the direction this is going in.
Yeadon has seen something he can’t unsee. He’s not a PR or a politician. He admits he may have the ultimate purpose wrong, but it’s clear that he is fundamentally right about the fact that the end point cannot but be something very evil.
He’s now with Leonard Cohen: “Things are gonna turn, turn in one direction…”
Hi Sandra,
You’re pushing at an open door with me – I agree with everything you say. However, I stick by my comments to Mike that whilst it’s fine for the likes of us to post such views – it does him no favours personally as well as to the anti-lockdown and anti-vaccination movement in general. Everything – and I mean EVERYTHING – is about perception. Truth and lies, right and wrong – come a very distant second to perception. If the vast majority of the people perceive BoJo, Hancock et al as trying their best, they’ll go along with anything they say. If they perceive a threat from Covid, they’ll mask up, stay indoors and do as they’re told. If they perceive Dr. Yeadon to be a nutter then they’ll dismiss his qualifications and experience as irrelevant. IMO, Mike’s playing into their hands when he talks about depopulation and they’ll use it to beat him with and paint him as a bad apple that’s lost the plot. Discrediting someone like Mike is seriously bad news for everyone on this side of the argument: that he may well be bang on the money with his comments about depopulation is neither here nor there – perception is EVERYTHING.
My point is an important one learned from bitter personal experience. Years ago, I worked for an online forum and the perception amongst the membership was that I was ‘on the take’ from advertisers. No amount of evidence that I wasn’t and no amount of people vouching on my behalf made a jot of difference. It doesn’t matter if you’re Christ reincarnated, once the perception sets in that you’re a wrong’un – you and what you represent (anti lockdown and anti vaccination in Mike’s case) are totally fcuked!
me too so glad mike yeadon speaking up and also commenting here
could be that mentioning all that will get people to wake up[ although sadly probably not i have not managed to change a single person’s mind in over a year]
i read that gates invested in nano particle chips and many other things that sound sci -fi but what has happend since march 2020 is sci -fi
the zombies the sheep the GMO gates injection sorry ‘ vaccine ‘passports
so glad to read commnents adn to finally be meeing people in person who think like i do
The proximate intent is to enrich the CEOs and shareholders of Big Pharma, and all the hangers-on via looting the public purse. It is also to cover the imminent collapse of the financialised western economies. The banksters usually try to create a large scale war but the large-scale opponents are fully aware of that game. They will be first in line to buy assets at fire-sale prices.
Yes, but you forget the all-powerful Cult of Safetyism.
“SAGE member Professor John Edmunds said he would advise Boris Johnson not to take the next step as planned because “at the moment it looks a little bit risky”.
It would be a bit “risky” for that idiot to come anywhere near a normal person, then he would understand the true meaning of “risky”. God help us all.
It’ a bit risky getting out of bed and going down stairs. Its a bit risky getting in the car and driving to work. It’s a bit risky eating as you may choke. It’s a bit risky getting out of the bath as you may slip and break your neck! What the f@ck are these evil bastards on? Does this man ever leave the house? I cannot, will not, live my life on f@cking worse case scenarios, may as well put a gun in your mouth and end it.
Health Secretary Fart Hancockwomble desperately wants o reduce punches from Mike Tyson
‘Some people can be reasoned into sense, and others must be shocked into it.’ – Thomas Paine.
Be there …
Just polishing my Doc Martin’s as it happens.
If only this was a week later. I’ve been looking with envy at the U.K. marches from my home in Belgium. Now am I in the U.K. (for my daughter’s 3rd attempt at getting married) I am locked in a pointless quarantine! I cannot risk anything going wrong so must endure it but I can tell you that once I am out I will join in any civil disobedience going.
For me enduring a grilling by some youth at the British passport control about why I wanted to travel to the country whose passport I hold and how long I intended to stay (for ever if I wished to I wanted to reply and nothing you can do about it) was a sign of how far things have deteriorated from last summer when we’d just passed through the real pandemic and had no masks, no tests, no quarantine. A year on, how can anyone still think this is still about a virus?
Surely some terminal Samaritan should have topped Neil cunt for the greater good.
yadda yadda – How the hell has Ferguson being allowed to contribute.
He could not follow his own advice on this so called deadly virus breaking all the rules to meet up with with his married woman ‘friend’ who had young children — Why has he not been banished??
Evil they are the way they play with the public.
There wont be a new lockdown or new restrictions in autumn because they wont be ending this one.
When will more people realise this is the new normal and is there plan.
Upping the cycle rates when it suits them to get more positive tests which they call cases.
Inventing new strains with the corresponding propaganda.
Dont take the vaccine, dont get tested and pray!
Spot on. The good thing is plenty of people in the US know this. Some of the Open States reached Nirvana by consulting brave experts in relevant fields.
Actually I wonder if they might let us out in June precisely so they can blame the naughty public for the autumn lockdown. “With a heavy heart” of course
On the Freedom March in London, the one hundreds of thousands attended but the MSM somehow missed! I saw a tee shirt with the slogan which sums it all up..
There’s a spike in cases because more people are being tested
If we had more IQ tests there’d be a spike in Morons, too.
A spontaneous congregation around Portland House locking the luvvies in might be a better way to go.
Its a lot bigger than the UK Government, all of the global organisations with their NGO officers who have infiltrated governments in every country are trying to bring governments down
“Top scientists have called for Downing Street to delay next month’s lockdown-easing…”
Ferguson? Top scientist???
Hafthor Bjornsson: top effeminate Australian dwarf, according to the same source.
Man who is a lying charlatan with no medical or computing qualifications whatsoever has called on downing street to delay unlocking. You couldn’t make this shit up. I think I’ll advise NASA on the next Mars mission. I have no qualifications to carry this role out, but what the hey. A man with no medical qualifications has brought the world to its knees. Should be fun.
“Jabbed”. I would like to Jab Hancock in his lying face. Who make that twit “god” – saving lives he claims. Wrecking lives I would counter with.
The moment to unlock was April, not f ing June. But then this all seems to have been a plan since January – we have been in this mess so long it’s become normal. Wankers. That thousands of years of democratic evolution ends up with this scummy lot is no reason to save humanity.
We were told that these vaccines were completely safe.
Yet these blood clot deaths appear to becoming more frequent now.
Glad I refused the jab offer.
next time anyone on the BBC trots out the “vaccines are safe” nonsense, they need to be asked about their former colleague Lisa. They weren’t safe for her, were they?
If Wankcock thinks the rest of us are going to line up for a blood-clotting jab in order to “free the nation”, he’s on the wrong horse. I don’t care if the nation stays locked up for the next ten years, I won’t be having it and neither will a ton of other folk. I don’t think it will be long now before the wheels come right off this charade. There’s a lot happening in the background.
Who is going to rid us of this utter shithouse Johnson? There is no voice ffs. They just keep on digging the biggest shithole in history and push the country into it. I am soooo fuc**d off.
Boris is very clearly just the local executor of a much larger scheme. Let’s stop dignifying him with the power to make decisions.
21June is on.
It’s off.
It’s on.
It’s off.
I suggest that whenever 21June is mentioned, we all stick our fingers in our ears and go ‘la la la’.
Like the government does?
It’s just Groundhog Day everyday now….
I never believed for one second that it ever was. Fun to watch the sheeple lie to themselves though!
Still no economic analysis of the cost/benefit of continuing with restrictions? No QALY analysis? It beggars belief that the UK government is still looking at this solely on the basis of “infection” numbers.
Why is anybody still listening to Professor Pants Down Ferguson given that his predictions about this and every lockdown have been comically inaccurate. As his namesake Sir Alex once said of a useless striker, this man “couldn’t hit a cows arse with banjo” yet he still has the gall to say that Cummings wild assertions about lockdowns saving thousands of lives are unarguable.
“we put that five weeks between those steps to give us time to see what effect the unlockings are having”
Yes, it’s a full-on scientific experiment, don’t you know.
In a statement that suggested lockdown could continue until every man and his dog has been vaccinated, the Health Secretary said: “Our vaccination programme has reached 73% of the adult population, but that means that more than a quarter still haven’t been jabbed.”
73% is more than enough for herd immunity. Even if they don’t stop infection and merely lessen the liklihood of catching it or expressing it.
This sentence beautifully (!) illustrates the true agenda. Digital ID.
We were not far off the herd immunity threshold BEFORE they started vaccinating.
notice 73% of the adult population. He’s got his eye on jabbing the children next.
Oh how fucking predictable
I got as far as “Top scientists say ……. ” That was all I needed to ignore the rest of the propaganda.
Btw can anyone tell me by this plonker Ferguson gets so many quotes, or more to the point, why his he not on the dole?
Institutions are not interested in the quality if his work. Only in the amount of grant funding he attracts. Naturally, he’s well funded by the BMGF.
SAGE should be declared a criminal organisation and its members subject to Nuremberg-style trials, as well as the politicians who approve these laws.
Toby Young suggested recently that Boris was a Libertarian at heart forgetting that almost the very first thing Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson did on becoming PM was to prorogue Parliament. He is now the head of a one party state – why ‘unlock’ and lose control of frightened, stupefied electorate? We are doomed. Dr Mike Yeadon is backing his bags for the US of A much of which is now indeed ‘The Land of the Free’.
Yes and libertarians don’t buy water cannons while London mayor either!
None of the variants differ enough in phenotype and certainly not immunologically.
The clearest case yet proving that government ministers, scientific advisors and media are all LYING to us.
Speak with any competent immunologist to confirm this.
Yeh Mike But…What about the
Teenage“Triple Mutant Yorkshire Variant” eh?Take a look at the link below, and yes you can find it on MSM!
We’re all gonna have to have a special triple mutant JibJab 3 times a week starting at the age of 3.
Utter BOLLOX!!! I’ve had enough of this. I want to punch someone, preferably with the initials MP after their name.
https://youtu.be/EPNfJ7gVx1Q
Ever thought why Johnson has delayed his wedding for a year?
His third wedding… he can only be thinking of it wearily.
MHRA continues to ignore all the data on early effective treatment of COVID now being used around the world. Drs Lawrie, McCullough,
Harvey Risch, Simone Gold and all the FLCCC doctors and so many others have recommended these treatments based on their own experiences and studies.
Why is the UK ignoring early Tx? We all know the economy is ruins, kids have lost their access to school over the past year and forced to wear masks all day when they were allowed to return. Lockdowns did not protect the vulnerable, suicides, mental illness and acute and chronic illnesses not addressed. Waiting times now for many elective surgeries now over 18 months.
With all the evidence, why would any “top scientists” consider further lockdown, when we have alternatives. Is this being done intentionally? If so, why.
So, Boris doesn’t…at the moment… “see anything in the data to delay the mid-summer freedom date.” That’s it, we’re fucked.
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!! Didn’t see that coming! Hancock priming the sheeple with the people that aren’t vaccinated are to blame. Hold on Hancock, the magic juice either works or it doesn’t. If it does, does not matter weather I am or not. If it doesn’t work against the new magical super variant Indian strain, vaccinating every one won’t make a jot of difference. C@nts!
Nor to the other new variant waiting in the wings for the Indian variant to become a bit boring… “Triple mutant Yorkshire variant”. Really? Yup!
Oh and I’ve just seen this headline re 44-year-old BBC employee. I wonder whether she will get a mention on PropagBeeb…
AstraZeneca Vaccine kills BBC Presenter (44-year-old Lisa Shaw tragically died...)“Lisa Shaw’s death might have been complicated by her having had the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine”
But but but…the injections might not work against the Thai variant they are keeping an eye on.
They must have a veritable nursery of variants waiting in the wings, ready to roll out at the slightest whiff of talk of freedom.
Is that the Ladyboy variant?
Transfluenza?
Round and round we go. When will Homo Bovinus wake up? It’s freackin’ endless and just proves that the majority of the species actually do have the mental retention capabilities of goldfish. That’s unkind; goldfish have been proven to have an ability to learn!
There is only one way to break this mould. Don’t just march and protest in London and elsewhere this weekend, SIT IN! Park asses en masse outside Downing Street, BBC studios, LBC, Capital Radio, everywhere MSM. For as long as it takes so they can’t just ignore you, stick fingers in their ears, and sing lalalala. Sit, sing, chant, and just wait long enough to be unavoidable. Maybe a bit of a “Danser Encore” to stretch the legs. They can’t hide tens of thousands quietly sitting in and around Downing Street, propaganda Beeb, etc…..Can they?
Edmunds , Ferguson! They are not professors- they are fraudulent wankers who know no more than any other man in the street. They must be ignored, just like we ignore Boris and Hand-on – cock!
Surprise surprise. This government has no intention of giving us our freedom back. All part of the Master plan to make the world into a Utopia for the 1%, and a dystopian, totalitarian nightmare for the 99%. Mainly because 94% refuse to recognise any nefarious intent, and will bring down with them, the 4% who are aware and trying to fight it.
SAGE and members of the government once again playing the “fear” and “caution” cards. The frightened flock still content to swallow the b. s. being shovelled. Clearly the “vaccine” roll-out is more a psy-ops to control the masses than a genuine attempt to protect the population ( from a virus causing an infection fatality rate of approx. 0.15%). And yet we put up with this cobblers…
Stop calling him Boris
Yes plenty of other things to call him
Neil Ferguson is the equivalent of having Ian Patterson advise the Government on the treatment of Breast cancer in women. Unfortunately only one of them has been jailed for the damage he caused.
Madness…..but what are we sane few to do? Protest tomorrow by all means. Stop wearing a mask. Refuse to use the T&T app. Make up your own mind about having a medical intervention….. and then??
Interestingly the net is drawing in. My husband was in London yesterday he went to a pub with a friend, the surly waitress asked them to sign in with the Government App, he refused and said he was happy to give a name and number, he was asked to leave. At the next pub the same thing happened only this time the waitess intended to stand over them whilst they did it. My husbands 2 mates did it, she then got distracted and my husband didn’t otherwise again he would have walked. As I understand it the ritual surrounding the app is described in the Government site as rules. I understand it that there are only 2 things that count Laws, which if you do not follow you can be charged, or Guidance which is not mandatory to follow. Rules do not have any legal standing except I note they attach fines to them. I also understand that the pen and paper capture of data is acceptable. But as I say the net is being drawn around us to force our data to the Government using a device they did not pay for, and a Phone contract and data usage they again pay nothing towards. You know whats coming next? Entrance to sites for vaccinated only, be assured this Government intends to own us.
Hack and trace.
Details are up on the Gab group
The Times reports today that “The country’s hopes of ending coronavirus restrictions next month hang in the balance as the Indian variant surges” and “Public Health England said that 6,959 cases of the Indian variant were known this week, compared with 3,535 last week.”
Does anyone know how they get these figures, is there actually any test available that shows whether an individual has a particular strain of a virus or not? Or is it all made up?
Hasn’t the Times twigged? Cases never ‘surge’, they ‘soar’. See Neil Ferguson’s handbook, ‘Guidance to the Media’.
I’ve just discovered this gem via BaceFook yes really a website called citizenjournos.com and this rather excellent fisking of an Independent Sage group professor
The arrogance of some academics is breathtaking
https://citizenjournos.com/2021/05/26/independent-sage-and-their-struggle-with-graphs/
Why on earth is he still listening to Ferguson and SAGE? He may be a lockdown sceptic as Toby suggested yesterday but he still lets himself be pushed around by these charlatans. I truly despair.
Why would a sceptic tell us a few weeks ago that the (then) drop in cases was all to do with lockdowns with vax being less important?
Just back from a short stay at a Holiday park. Their ‘rules’ stated that masks must be worn in the bar and restaurant unless seated at a table. We had an amusing time watching the mask Hokey Cokey…….masks on when entering, off when sat down, on when going to the toilet, off when back at table, on when walking the 7 steps to exit ! Couldn’t believe the level of compliance, totally crazy and illogical……
The lies and propaganda keep coming down the track and still the gullible believe their health is of paramount importance to a government known to be deeply corrupt. Not one person I speak to knows anyone, ANYONE, who has died because of Covid. A high number of the peopleI I talk to have not had the jab. Many in the healthy over 60s group. It seems only the Care homes have been coerced into this injection as well as those who wish to go abroad.
Every single person I know who has taken the injection has had a reaction. Some just a mild headache and flu symptoms but most experienced lost of vision, loss of muscle strength, unbelievable tiredness taking to their beds for a few days and on going headaches with bouts of sickness. Some realised it was the jab and refused the second dose but most did not connect it to the jab and went ahead with the full dosage. None reported their symptoms.
None the virologists’ studies have been released by Government on the terrible number of reactions. It has been left to people like Mike Yeadon and Dolores Cahill to push ahead with videos showing horrific numbers of damaged people.
Until a media platform is given to the truth and is brave enough to call out the likes of Matt Hancock, Whitty, Fergusson, SAGE and PHE, we will have more and more desperate lies forced on us, creating complete apartheid and possible violence.
GB news begins soon, the sheep might get a different perspective
How convenient the Vinda Flu comes along at just the right time for the Covidian cult
You are welcome to wait if you want to, Boris, but I won’t, I’ve had more than enough of this contrived nonsense.
O/T: I see the Mail’s campaign for a memorial to the Covid-dead is proving successful. Personally, I would 100 times rather see a memorial to the Lockdown-dead and the vaccine-dead which, I believe, in the final analysis, will far exceed the deaths from covid.
Jeez.. SAGE even have a French member at Imperial College.. WTF!!!!
Get a load of what this twat is saying. Yet another supposed covid expert!
Its all about stopping the ordinary person travelling internationally.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/French-quarantine-for-UK-arrivals-is-coherent-says-Covid-expert
We have these ‘experts ‘ their fifteen minutes of fame and boy they do
not want it to.end
It was a foregone conclusion Bozo the clown would renege on the date.
Just confirms that there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
Cannot understand anyone who still thinks this nonsense is about some ‘variant’ from another land. The way they are talking about their jabs, makes me think of dealers and standing outside school gates.
They never had any intention of opening up on June 21st, that was obvious. If we want to ‘open up’ and get our freedoms back, we’re going to have to take them back. These scumbags are never going to relinquish this power that they have over us unless we make them. I do believe however, that if there is enough kickback, these tossers will fold like a deck of cards. You can see that they are a bunch of spineless cowardly wimps without an ounce of courage or moral fibre between the lot of them! Why are we allowing scum like this to destroy our lives?