A new paper published this week in Oxford scientific journal Clinical Infectious Diseases has shown that the spike protein from an mRNA Covid vaccine is present systemically in the blood from the day of the jab and is not localised to the site of injection. The research team from Harvard found the protein in the blood of 11 of 13 nurses tested following vaccination. Here is the abstract:
SARS-CoV-2 proteins were measured in longitudinal plasma samples collected from 13 participants who received two doses of mRNA-1273 [Moderna] vaccine. 11 of 13 participants showed detectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein as early as day one after first vaccine injection. Clearance of detectable SARS-CoV-2 protein correlated with production of IgG and IgA.
The Covid vaccines introduce genetic material into the body which give our cells instructions to produce the spike protein, which the immune system then learns to fight off and produces antibodies against. It had not previously been confirmed whether the spike protein was only produced locally to the injection site or could be detected more widely in the body.
The implications of this finding are unclear. As the authors state: “The clinical relevance of this finding is unknown and should be further explored.” However, it would seem to explain why side-effects potentially connected to the spike protein can occur throughout the body and are not localised to the injection site.
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Spike Protein is Very Dangerous, it’s Cytotoxic Says the INVENTOR of mRNA Vaccine Technology
https://grandmageri422.me/2021/06/17/spike-protein-is-very-dangerous-its-cytotoxic-says-the-inventor-of-mrna-vaccine-technology/
Are these blood tests performed ongoing in the trial candidates? So little known about efficacy and safety to date, and yet everyone is so desperate to have their “jab”. I cannot understand it.
If the medical profession at large can’t (or refuses to) do basic maths – what do expect from the ordinary Joe who gets their brain shaped by the MSM and, anyway, lacks basic counting skills?
Unknown? Of course because it’s a human experiment so stop the reprehensible discussion about vaccination in Children!
Dr Bhakdi and Dr Yeadon and others pondered this…
Can anyone explain to me the following event. A colleague had the Pfizer injection on a Monday and a negative PCR test (for travelling) on the Thursday. I know the Pfizer is a non-vector process, but surely some spike protein viral fragments would have shown up in the PCR test? ( apologies for any yawning gaps in my knowledge)
Any substance injected into anywhere will get cleared out into the circulation. If a vaccine remained localised the body’s immune system would have to find it. It isn’t sentient and it would not happen. Not entirely true; you might get a local reaction but that would not stimulate immunity. The reason you get generalised side effects such as fever and malaise is precisely because what you put in spreads about. Nothing new here. Why anyone should do a study to confirm what is already known is a mystery to me, and anyone surprised by this result does not understand human physiology.
The mRNA vaccine was not sold like that.Indeed this is the first time this has been found.The same thing happened when they told us the mRNA component would disappear quickly.That was also not true as minute amount of mRNA can be traced short time period.Another issue if this has clinical consequences,we don’t know.Anybody would have potential cocern with blood donations from vaccinated but they are still allowed. I think Berenson’s quote is the best about this issue. We are finding new evidence of the vaccine whilst in a mass vaccination mode.
“Hey, remember how all the smart people told you the vaccines were supery-dupery safe because those nasty-ass (technical term) spike proteins they make would never actually leave the cells that make them? Turns out that’s… less than entirely accurate”
You’re right.
We tend to get bogged down in the fine detail – but the over-ridingly important issue is much bigger : it is folly to embark on an uncontrolled experimental programme of mass vaccination with a substance that is massively unexamined by ordinary control standards.
The only circumstances in which this might be permissable would be in the face of a critical disaster.
This is so far from that scenario as to be laughable – if it wasn’t so devious and tragic.
NHS Test & Trace App updated to a Chinese Style Social Credit System
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCiC1oqbQMA
‘However, critical data demonstrating the direct production of spike protein via translation from the mRNA-1273 vaccine in these studies are missing, precluding a full understanding of the vaccine mechanism.’ I read this sentence in the introduction as suggesting the pharmaceutical companies do not know exactly how the gene therapy works.
Or they do and don’t want us to know.
See Imperial Tobacco.
: “The clinical relevance of this finding is unknown and should be further explored.”
When I take a vaccine I want the medical authorities to fully understand the clinical relevance of all the changes it caused within my body.
Another excellent article on Market Ticker regarding this: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242467
Yes I agree.I found that article outlining a worst case scenario more plausible after this Harward study. They must be concerned in FDA or any Drug regulatory body. The minimum response would be to stop mass vaccination of healthy people which is ongoing now in the whole Western world as all riskgroups are already vaccinated. At least pausing the vaccine and only allowing it for risk groups until we know more about these frightening findings.
“only allowing it for risk groups”
… but you’re absolutely wrong and illogical there. For a ~1% ARR, with the same reservations applying and the suspicion of significant post-jab mortality amongst this group?
Makes no sense, particularly when there is safe prophylaxis available.
I forgot where I read it today, but in that article it was stated that 95% of mRNA treated and vaccinated animals always died within a few weeks, and that this time span usually correlates for researchers to 1 to 1 1/2 human years.
So 2022 could be quite ‘interesting’.
I read that too.
Except I think it was 95% of animals injected with vaccines designed to deal with coronoviruses.
Harvard confirming SALK.
And Wodarg, Bhakdi&co. even before that.
What that means is pretty clear to anyone with an IQ above 50:
The last thing you wanna do is get an injection that turns you into a spike protein producing zombie for good, aka a Covid 19 vector or mRNA ‘vaccine’.
Let’s be clear about this. The cries from such as Yeadon, Bhakdi and Wodargs are found to be true. The spikes go directly in the blood stream, to go into the cells of the blood vessels including the brain. Where they are attacked by the immune system to cause clots and bleeding. People have died, I fear far more will die over several months.
This is callous murder.
So the vaccinated potentially become spreaders of SARS-Cov-2?
I could be wrong but I think Professor Sucharit Bhakdi warned about this problem with the covid vaccines in a video interview he did back in April 16 – the unusual and sometimes crippling side-effects like headaches and so on he says should not be ignored, they are warnings. The whole 45 min video is worth watching but if you want the part about spikes being produced in parts of the body where they are never produced normally (ie the brain) and the dangers of this happening – this is around 35min onwards.
Perspectives on the Pandemic | “Blood Clots and Beyond” | Episode 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyPjAfNNA-U
Did anyone catch the UK column episode to-day? Friday is usually dire but the opening topic to-day was jaw dropping. I’m sure everyone is familiar with the MHRA, They are the people we rely on for medicine safety.
Anyway, under a FOI request, someone had wanted clarification on issues surrounding pregnancy which needed flagging during the Trial. I think this was the point of interest
The response from MHRA effectively said that they hadn’t read the document. While difficult to comprehend, it would explain why 2 nurses with histories of allergies were allowed to take the vaccine on the first day of the rollout.
“While difficult to comprehend” The whole madness has been difficult to comprehend
Some of this looks fairly positive. It appears spike protein levels reduce as the immune system does its thing, rather than it hanging around for a long time.
The still-unresolved question that a lot of people on here have already asked previously – what damage might the spike protein potentially be doing prior to the immune response working its magic?
Quite a lot if VAERS and the Yellow Card system are any guide.
The sample size was tiny (13 healthcare workers) so definitely a case of “more research is needed”.
Yeah. Be interesting to see if Wellcome could throw half a mill towards a really big study, overseen by Hart to reassure us of impartiality?
“The Covid vaccines introduce genetic material into the body which give our cells instructions to produce the spike protein, which the immune system then learns to fight off and produces antibodies against”
As does the virus. That’s how RNA replication works.
Vaccines induce an artificial infection. That’s sort of the point.
(The) “Vaccines induce an artificial infection” … and provoke blood clots
So tell me, what are the antibodies being created to attack? An artifical infection or a real one?
The real virus will have the N protein as well though. And you will produce neutralising antibodies to that as well as the S protein. And a robust T cell response (hopefully, if you are young) that will mean that you will produce a whole slew of antibodies when presented with a mutated or related coronavirus in future.
if you only train your body to attack the S protein, you’re not getting a full protective effect. The virus (on reinfection) may only be partially incapacitated. And that’s how ADE might result, as I understand it.
There was a new paper out the other day, on market-ticker. I will try and find it.
ETA here: its a preprint
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.07.21253098v2.full.pdf
This could be why they are so hung up on variants. If the mutations are focusing on the S-protein then the current vaccinations could eventually become worse than useless.
Good point. The variant thing makes no sense otherwise.
this is worrying too (from line 99 of the preprint):
The polyclonal antibody response to mRNA vaccination exceeds titers seen in convalescent individuals but is characterized by a high ratio of non-neutralizing antibodies
and line 157:
The majority of isolated mAbs from SARS-CoV2 vaccinees are non-neutralizing
We know that non neutralising antibodies are what drive ADE.
And I also found this paper (while reading references) on cross reactivity with other HCoV which suggests you need the N (or NTD) and S2 mAbs to get a more broadly protective effect than just the S1 protein.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7523096/
Be more concise :
“The variant thing makes no sense.“
Stick to the basics : there is no need for a vaccine – or fake NPIs. This is not an exceptional or novel virus.
Maybe I was TOO concise! I meant the variant panic made no sense for the reason you say (ie not a novel virus). It does make sense if you’ve vaccinated a ton of chumps though, as you’ll risk ADE if you get too much variation in the virus.
That assumes mass death isn’t your goal.
But if we give the powers that be the benefit of the doubt that they are just stupid rather than completely evil, then we are where we are, where a little bit of knowledge turns out to be a very dangerous thing indeed
Whichever, if ADE starts it will not be confessed to. Deaths will be blamed on Covid and “refuseniks” and fear and control vastly increased.
I fear you are right. Sadly.
Is it saying much the same as this:
https://www.hartgroup.org/natural-vs-vaccine-immunity/ ?
I can’t quite follow the pre print thingy…
They’re hung up on variants only as a means of control through fear, pharma profit, and towards jab passports.
If it was otherwise, they’d be praising natural immunity.
Not only does Ivermectin fix Covid 19, it may also deal with the side effects of the vaccine as well as curing long Covid, see https://youtu.be/tMvcToinCDE at 49 minutes. Watch the whole thing, it’s a good podcast from the FLCCC.
You have to think the ignorance of Ivermectin is almost up there with the lab leak cover up.
Shameful we are still here in the UK awaiting for it to be used.
I think far more damage has been done because of the suppression of ivermectin than the lab leak cover up!
That’s really interesting, and needed.
For those more knowledgeable than me. Will this issue affect those who have had the AZ vaccine too? Or just the Pfizer and Moderna ones?
I don’t want to claim to be knowledgeable but, while the Pfizer & AZ methods may differ, the end result is the same, i.e. the host cell produces the virus spike protein. If it can circulate in the blood stream after the Pfizer jab it can presumably do the same after the AZ jab.
As Will Jones points out this would explain why side effects “can occur throughout the body and are not localised to the injection site”.
Yes. They are the same in that they induce the spike protein. Its just the delivery method of the coding which is different
Any vaccine which is based on the S protein (ie all of them) risks being the same. Even when we get more traditional antigen based approaches like Sanofi at the end of this year.
Also I am no expert, but Dr Bhakdi says what Mayo says. And I think we can call him an expert.
And people who say these vaccines are “experimental” are dismissed as conspiracy nutters by Wendling, Spring and the other anti-free speech fascists at the BBC. In fact Ofcom will soon be policing sites that allow people to call them “experimental” because that’s “disinformation”.
They’ve been trying out this vaccine on the whole populace without knowing how it works in its most obvious sense.
Isn’t it the case that spike proteins can get in the brain?
The loss of smell & taste in the acute infection stage are indicative that the virus enters the brain. Some studies, can’t for the life of me remember where I read it, indicate that it particularly likes the brainstem
Here is a different explanation: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/31/eabc5801
Could that not be the cells in the nasal lining that are targeted?
Yes I think that’s more likely. I had soreness in the sinuses before loss of smell and taste was noticeable.
“The implications of this finding are unclear.”
You’d think they’d have figured out what the implications of giving most people in the world this vaccine were before they started. You know, just in case the implications weren’t particularly good for people’s long-term health. But maybe I’m just a bit old-fashioned in that way.
What I don’t understand about the spike protein issue is that the virus itself has spike proteins. Presumably the virus spike proteins are a limited problem because they are only restricted to the virus itself, not produced more widely?
Viruses invade just about every cell in the body, which is why you get the classic aches and pains with flu. I think the fact that the manufacturers admit that side effects of the vaccine include Covid like symptoms tells its own story.
The key assumption was that the spike was benign. As the Salk Institute found. It’s not. It causes vascular issues on its own
They’re not limited, as I understand it, but as it’s a respiratory infection, they are mostly in the lung (so we see blood clots there). Some get into the blood stream and it’s why we do see other locations for thrombosis in some unlucky patients.
With the vaccine, its more random. If I understand Dr Bhakdi correctly.
What. How many million doses and NOW some researchers are investigating that it affects the whole body?
Dumbfounded!
Bhakdi talks about his at length in his Planet Lockdown interview (removed from YouTube of course).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/O0ZdVXNyjjCW/
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Bearing in mind:
The mRNA instructs all cells to produce this spike protein, forever (Nobody knows if the mechanism ever shuts off, I strongly suspect not)
This particular protein “has not been seen in nature before” ( so I believe )
That Covid is a vascular disease, the damage being caused by the spike protein’s interaction with the blood vessels ( as I understand it ) … And thus also the “long Covid” and organ damage we’ve heard about…
I can only think that being “vaxxed” is like having a particularly bad case of Covid, forever, with all the attendant short term and ( as yet unseen ) bodily damage that entails.
For long Covid, see post viral syndrome. Been known about for years, now part of project fear.
I’ve had post viral fatigue & have been diagnosed with long covid, they are very different.
… or have a range of ill-defined common symptoms.
Tell us about the symptoms of each for you.
I think, listening to Dr Bhakdi, your immune system eventually kills of the spike producing cells. So it is not forever. If it works as expected anyway. No guarantees in human biology (other than eventual death).
And being vaxxed is more like Russian roulette than COVID, which targets the lungs and older people, while vax injuries can be anywhere in the body with slow flowing blood and more unpredictable as to who is harmed. Possibly less deadly overall, but without all cause mortality data vs control, we will never know.
“we will never know” I think that’s the general idea. What possible reason could anyone pushing the narrative for all it’s worth have for wanting anyone to know the truth.
“being vaxxed is more like Russian roulette than COVID,”
Being jabbed is essentially like deliberately catching Covid and then seeing what happens.
I wouldn’t choose either.
No I think if you are young, the vaccines are more dangerous than COVID. EspeciAlly if you are slim and healthy. Because with COVID the damage is more likely to be contained to the lungs.
Forced to a choice, I’d go for the covid every time.
No it doesn’t.
Its literally not how mRNA works or can possibly work.
Stop making ridiculous claims about something you clearly don’t understand.
Nobody understands this snake oil. ‘Understanding’ results from rigorous testing.
Firstly, we know that SARS-CoV-2 causes totally unexceptional problems in the context of the run of infectious diseases, and that the engineering of this situation is done by some very dodgy dealers.
We know that the snake oil creates massively inflated (compared to other medicines) figures of side-effects – such that would probably have paused honest trials, given the salience of blood clotting symptoms.
We have problematic evidence of increased mortality after the initiation of widespread ‘vaccination’.
We also know that the absolute risk reduction is minimal.
We have a year of data without the intervention of so-called ‘vaccines’ – and nothing extraordinary happened – except a manufactured political scenario built round a higher than average mortality, following a long period of accruing ‘dry tinder’.
Thus the benefit/harm balance is shot to pieces.
Thus mass administration of the snake oil is way outside the boundary of proper medical ethics.
It’s really that simple.
I tried (and failed) to follow a podcast explanation of this from Dr been (mobeen somoneorother) who has a YT following. He drew a cartoon featuring a monster pulling a cart and tried to illustrate how there was a cut-off point where the spike protein ceases to proliferate in the cells. (Causing the monster’s tail to drop off)
Too many enzymes and chemical formulae for me to grasp, but he seemed certain that it had an end-point. It would be comforting to hear someone else describe it. (Well, not to me personally cos I’m not having the jab – but for the sake of my fool of a son who probably will…)
Did anybody actually think it would remain at the injection site? And I can’t see why it is needed to explain a systemic reaction. You are always likely to get a generalised systemic reaction if you inject foreign organic material.
I’m fairly sure the studies do show it is expressed in cells throughout the body. Some comments about the kidney spring to mind. Or maybe it was seen in the kidney but they didn’t report on anywhere else. I can’t remember.
Maybe a silly question, but how do they know unless a post mortem is performed?
I’m not really surprised by this…it kinda confirms what I learnt at school about the circulatory system. Plus I believe that the manufacturers haven’t ever released info on what exact cells in the body are targeted? Then you have the blood clot side effects…
I didn’t need Mike Yeadon’s article to convince me of the true agenda but evidence from this study suggests that depopulation is the real goal. Every trick in the book is being used to get everybody jabbed for an illness that kills 0.15% of those it infects.
More evidence will appear through this year.
Autumn and Winter will be carnage.
Be interesting to see if the Cytokine Storm thing happens.
“Interesting” being a euphemism for terrifying.
OC43 is on the rise again in the US. We will see (maybe)
That’s terrifying as well. I’ve been focusing on the national security implications of vaccinated everyone (including military) over the last couple of weeks in my research.
Market Ticker has shown that a study that shows that the “vaccines” have a different antibody signature to natural immunity, meaning that it could be possible to release a new bioweapon that bypasses that signature and causes massive ADE.
He’s also speculated that OC43 could cause ADE in the vaccinated (and maybe in Covid-recovered people as well).
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242430
If OC43 cases are suddenly increasing as you state, I would be exceedingly concerned this is the bioweapon China has chosen.
Think about it – you would decapitate the leadership, military, emergency services and take out a good deal of the population without firing a shot.
How can anyone not have considered the national security implications of all this, especially when the virus was likely a gain of function bioweapon to begin with?
You are computing more malice than I had. Maybe the Chinese are smarter than all of us.
I figured that this crass stupidity was driven by panic and fear (of losing power, not the virus necessarily) by governments and complicit venality of the vaccine manufacturers, jumping at the chance to ditch liability for their experiments and advance development of a new modality that could make them rich.
Everyone in any position of power knows the vaccine is risky, but the strategy seems to be “cross your fingers”. Madness.
Antibody dependent enhancement, pathogenic priming, autoimmune disease, neurological disease and much more are on the table I am very sad to say.
This article is absolutely fantastic, not sure where I got it from (might have been here) but is an invaluable (and terrifying) summary of everything in play.
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/34
Took me about 2 hours to read – but yes, a brilliant summary of the known unknowns! What about the unknown unknowns?
Particularly if there’s truth in the figures that 75% of health care workers have been vaccinated.
It will be a sad but interesting conundrum if they have to beg ‘the selfish unvaccinated’ to step up and help.