The Government’s domestic vaccine passport plans could be scaled back even further as a review on the scheme later this month is expected to report that certification will not be needed at cinemas, theatres and restaurants. Vaccine passports are, however, still likely to be introduced for a range of other venues, along with caps on numbers attending large events. MailOnline has the story.
Pubs are already excused from having to check the vaccine status of punters amid an outcry and now more businesses are set to avoid measures critics say will have a constricting effect on business.
A review is expected to report on the scope of any domestic passport scheme by the end of the month.
But ministers questioned their health benefits at a meeting on the subject last week, the Telegraph reported.
It also said that there were feared that physical passports for those without smartphones might be a forgery risk.
Amid nosediving hospitalisation rates across England a source told the paper: “This different reality has prompted people saying, ”Well actually, I saw the benefit of it before but do we really need it?'”
However, strip clubs are expected to be one area where passports are required.
The Sun reported today that “adult entertainment venues” will join stadium events and large crowd venues like nightclubs in requiring proof of vaccine status.
They are due to reopen from June 21st under Step Four of the lockdown easing.
Perhaps the Government did listen to those thousands who marched against vaccine passports in London last month after all.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Merriam-Webster has enlarged its definition of “Anti-Vaxxer” to include “a person who opposes vaccination or laws that that mandate vaccination”. How long before it enlarges it again to include “or opposes mandatory vaccine passports”?
Stop Press 2: Turns out, Merriam-Webster has been defining “Anti-Vaxxer” that way since 2018.
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These criteria can be changed at a moment’s notice (that’s the whole point of the digital ID).
The government will be quite happy to get the principle of the digital IDs through; there will then be plenty of scope to tighten the screw further down the line.
The French government has just made similar “concessions” in order to get this legislation passed, but nobody doubts the ultimate aim.
> nobody doubts the ultimate aim.
there is no ultimate aim. There never was and there never could be.
I am not sure there’s an ultimate aim but I don’t think we can discount it and say there never could be.
Certainly a recurring theme of rulers since time immemorial is that they’ll tend to expand the scope of their powers, if allowed, and rarely give up powers they have acquired without a very nasty fight.
I’m not sure if you’d call it an “ultimate aim” but the exercise of power for its own sake is quite appealing to some.
Yes, I think Fon meant that they’d continue finding new ways to employ digital / health id. in our oppression.
Then what do you believe is the point of them and for how long?
Oh do fuck off you are not welcome, 77 twat.
So where is the public health benefit in having vaccine passports ?
There isn’t one. The entire scheme is a lie.
Their goal is to migrate everyone onto Vaxpass.
Liar.
Mobile phones, especially the “smart” ones, are a curse on Mankind; perhaps as bad as, or worse than “social media”. I’ve never felt the need to spend money to jabber away all day, or to “communicate” non-stop with people and organisations that I either detest or wish to ignore. Now they have turned into “The Spy In Your Pocket”, and it serves people right if they continue to carry and use them. Unfortunately, like many other things now becoming revealed in their true light, the phone genie is out of its bottle, and it would appear that nothing short of destroying all the comms infrastructure, or a total loss of electricity supply, will put it back in.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t find my ‘smart’ phone to be very smart at all. It can’t download my bank’s app, among others; and only last week it went into one because I must have pressed the wrong buttons in the wrong order, so I had to re-set it to factory settings in order to get it to work at all. Means I’ve lost all the data on it. Shame.
hahaha my type of guy/girl.. you hit the nail on the head here… been saying it since the beginning about peoples addiction to their devices. I was the last one with a flip phone in my pocket but I did succumb in the end though… but I am cautious.
Guy.
Chap.
I hate mobile phones/iPads (whatever you want to call them) – I really loathe the things – they are like a sickness in society. I no longer have one and I’m not planning to get one either. I’ve been free of this form of technological enslavement for about ten years now. Its quite liberating really. No one bothers me anymore. I recommend it.
You may remember the film “I’ll Never Forget What’s’isname”, from 1967, with Oliver Reed as Quint the advertising executive, who leaves his job by chopping up his desk with an axe. For me, it is a memorable image, and gives me an idea.
I plan to obtain some used cheap phones, and, if asked to do whatever it is with one, anywhere (QR?), will decline, drop it on the ground and stamp it into fragments. Of course, being a fan of “Keep Britain Tidy”, I’ll pick up the debris for disposal.
A propos this nonsense, I see that the NHS “app” will be available for vaccination status verification from 17th May, and a paper certificate or blood chit can be obtained by ringing some NHS number, a minimum of 5 working days after the last dose of Johnson Jollop, and allowing 5 days for transit. This crap is posted on my local GP’s website as a “News” item, alongside a post informing us that they’ll be closed all Whitsun weekend and the Monday. GP hours have joined “Bankers’ Hours”.
It is indeed liberating isn’t it Spartacas. I am regarded as an oddity because I don’t have one. I couldn’t care less. I have a laptop which is MORE than adequate for my comms needs and a landline which I hardly ever use. I too believe that they are a sickness. People walking along the pavement with their head projected downwards glued to their phone and oblivious to everything around them. They aren’t being present in the moment. They are missing so much.
I watched a group of four young girls in an outside coffee shop the other day, all with their heads down intent on the device in their hand. Occasionally one would look up and say something, but other than that they may as well have been alone. It seems to me that the young, especially, are becoming ever more isolated from one another, their most important relationships being with their mobiles.
If they made ‘The Prisoner’ today, smart-phones would figure largely in it; no. 6’s every movement would be observed and controlled. Perhaps some TV company should consider a re-make – it might help wake the still-sleeping.
mass advertising by alphabet company google and mass surveillance by the alphabet agencies have very similar infrastructure it’s “almost” like one is a spin-off of the other.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I have long regarded them as a tracking device. Has no one watching tv police dramas where they use mobile phone data to prove a person’s whereabouts cottoned on to that yet? I also believe that there has been a deliberate intention to lure people into becoming addicted to these devices, letting them gamble and play games on them and watch TV etc, so that they would become so conditioned to using them that that use could then be subverted for the purpose of the digital ID. TBH I would find the idea of the “constant contact” draining to say the least. I think I can count on the numbers of one hand the number of times over the last 10 years I have thought to myself “a smart phone might be handy” and none of those were an emergency.
Totally agree. We do not have mobile phones in this house. It has proved a blessing on many occasions
I have an old mobile which I use occasionally to say “Hello dear, can you pick me up from town?” Very useful. But I wouldn’t have a smart-phone for love nor money. I trust High Tech as little as I trust Big Pharma.
They do have their place as pure telephones, especially since public phone boxes have all but disappeared. The main thing is to have something
I never give out any phone numbers, or email addresses, and subscribe to a secure email service that provides a rolling supply of alternative and self-destructing addresses.
My own favourite is a Nokia 105, which is as dumb as Johnson is deceitful.
Of course, any phone can be tracked through the phone networks, unless it’s in a Faraday cage. Taking the battery out (assuming you can) might disable it, but I think a number have a small backup battery (like a PC) that maintains things like dates and settings, even if the main battery is removed. Opinions vary on whether that is sufficient to allow the phone to send out signals.
I thought I was the only ‘mobile’ refusenik’..
Jabeat emptor:the latest MHRA yellow card figures are now available up to 6th May 2021: https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports
Concentrating only on vaxx deaths:
(*) The government caveat that applies to MHRA figures is that they are subject to up to 90% under-reporting error, so the reported figures underestimate the actual figures by a factor of 10. Thus potentially (according to government figures and caveats) the actual figure of total vaxx deaths now potentially stands over 11,000.
This is horrific. By using the same under-reporting criteria then, the ‘severe adverse reactions’ figure must be in the millions. Certainly people I know of, have been really badly affected by the ‘treatment’.
From reports from several sources (I’m being deliberately careful here) it would seem that several hospitals have been inundated with A&E patients in the last few weeks who are NOT Covid 19 cases. ‘Queues of ambulances’ in some instances were mentioned in Monday 10th May edition of UK Column News (still available online) as well as the Wednesday 12th edition. I have yet to view today’s edition.
UK Column are asking for NHS staff to come forward and comment. The suspicion is this upsurge in A&E cases is possibly due to C19 vaccine ADRs, which the Yellow Card reporting figures tends to support, but there appears to be a media blackout in place – with Marianna Spring at the BBC reporting on anti-vaxx conspiracy honeypot traps instead!
I am being cautious until all this is confirmed and in the open, but the government’s Yellow Card figures seem to speak for themselves.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/09/ae-swamped-with-patients-seeking-help-for-mild-covid-jab-side-effects
Yeah, I truly believe that people choose to go to A&E with “mild” side-effects. If they aren’t gaslighting us, they just ignore it.
USA VAERS is showing a similar pattern, over 4,000 deaths shortly after vaccination. All of the EUA vaccines carry a class risk caused by a design flaw at their heart: expression of pro thrombotic spike protein. The anatomical location & amount of spike expressed is not known, because the manufacturers were not required to study it.
Why not? Because they’re classified as “vaccines”. No other such product in history bears these risks. Nobody was interested in my warnings with Dr Wodarg in early December last year. We warned these were inevitably dangerous. Instead of taking heed, we were smeared as anti vax. In my case, pretty unlikely. I’d been 32y in R&D in Biopharma.
And just over 500 of those VAERS deaths were reported just in the last 2 weeks. There is no slow-down of these reported vaccine-related deaths. We should all be extremely concerned. Children and young adults are dying FFS.
That Spring, she is a pain in the bloody arse..
and me, and yet when you try to warn people of the dangers or point out what the jabs have done to them they turn on you. I’m giving up doing that now – what is the point? they are going to do what they are going to do and nothing I say is going to change that. But it is difficult to stand by and watch it happening.
I have friends who’ve been vaccinated and seem to be OK at the moment. But I never discuss vaccine deaths and serious side effects with them. What is the use? There is no path back from these vaccines, no cure, no antidote. It would only worry them or, as you say, make them turn on me. One lifelong friend has been abusive and ended our friendship because I said I had no intention of ever being vaccinated.
What is done is done, all you can do is offer support if it all goes wrong. Almost everyone I know has been vaccinated and I feel increasingly isolated. Imagine a ‘pandemic’ of vaccine deaths and disabilities: we will be hated for our common sense and our survival.
While it seems astonishing, when I ask around, it’s commonplace for people to know of someone on their network who’s died shortly after vaccination but no one who died “with Covid19”.
In my case I know of four vaccine deaths but only two Covid19 deaths.
These vaccines are DANGEROUS. They induce expression of spike protein which is pro thrombotic.
I’m not disputing this but where does the 90% under-reporting figure come from? A cursory search brought up this BMJ article which contains similar figures relating to new drugs.
I’m not a clubber myself, though I was thinking I’d go at least once if things ever got back to normal, but to me the ability to go to a club without restrictions seems as good a test as any of whether we are back to normal. Of all the activities and places one could think of, clubs would be attended and staffed mainly by the fairly young and healthy, and any argument about protecting the vulnerable that you could apply to places people HAD to do like shops or public transport simply don’t apply to clubs.
It’s pretty much impossible to go “proper” clubbing without taking pills. What do they expect when the top DJ doesn’t start until 3am?
And it’s pretty much impossible to go “cheesy” clubbing with getting drunk, as it’s just awful otherwise.
So they’re already not exactly risk-free activities?! Young people are already putting themselves at greater risk of a bad night than catching a virus.
This made me laugh. The idea of hundreds of people mashed off their tits getting Covid tests is too insane even for Clown World, surely?
Thank fuck I’m 55 and don’t have to frequent nightclubs anymore, fucking noise so you can’t hold a conversation, fucking sweaty smelly people and fucking bouncers.
This is still coercion. They’re still aiming for nightclubs, sporting events and large outdoor events like festivals, which – surprise surprise, are the main areas young people want to go to.
As someone that works in the festival and events industry, they can simply and politely – fuck off.
Additional to this – they also know the late night and entertainment industry have been on their arse the past year and also tons of tickets were sold as soon as the June 21st date was announced.
Those industries will be forced into accepting them due to the heavy losses they’ve incurred the past year and the bankruptcy they will face this year due to no insurance if they don’t accept vaccine passports.
They will bend over and do whatever it takes to get back up and running, even accepting this fascist shit.
economic coercion
The pubs said they wouldn’t enforce a “passport” and that seems to have worked. Can’t your industry do the same?
I’d like to think so but with our industry you have a lot of advanced planning and tickets. Festivals especially are massive logistical nightmares with months/years of planning and a lot of costs upfront – for us and customers. It’s a different dynamic to pubs and restaurants.
When you’ve already shelled out hundreds of thousands or millions on your infrastructure and artist costs and facing bankruptcy with no insurance what do you think operators will do to protect that?
;o)
Go away Hancock and Johnson. This isn’t Communist China, Soviet Russia, East Germany or Nazi occupied France. This country does not need internal passports. This is supposed to be a free country and people can go about their business without State intrusion.
Get yourself to London or your nearest city tomorrow and make yourself heard. Enough is enough.
I am hoping that tomorrow will be twice as big as last time.
supposed to be but weve got these nice little devices so about time someone figured out how they can be used to control the population… technology is a 2 sided coin
Anyone who subscribes to the lie that vaccine passports will help to ‘get our freedoms back’ is simply stupid. I truly despair. They are making it necessary to show vaccine status in order to be allowed into a nightclub? This is medical coercion of young healthy people who have no need to fear this virus. Surly this is a crime.
Plus nightclubs are full of drugs, underage people and weapons. Given that they can’t keep these things out, what on earth makes them think they can keep out viruses or unvaccinated individuals (or healthy people as I call them).
one of many crimes
Well if dictionaries are changing their definitions I guess I’m an anti-vaxxer now.
They can all fuck off.
a COVID “vaccine” that doesn’t actually prevent you from catching COVID you’d just get EVEN milder symptoms if over 60…
Meanwhile the Oz health fascists want to kill quite a few children
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-05-covid-vaccination-mandatory-children.html
They need to prove what symptoms an individual would have had without the ‘vaccine’
The sheep still do not realise that it is nothing to do with any virus, variant or mutant
If anyone wants an excellent website to check on a daily basis, I highly recommend https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad
As someone who trades, I’m a bit baffled I have never found it before.
In addition to being hilarious, Karl Denninger is absolutely brilliant at statistics and has a very firm grasp of the science.
I’d highly recommend one of his (typically irreverent) pieces from earlier today:
“You must like dying.
There is no other real explanation; all you snowflakes are a death cult.
Why do I say that? Because the data is that you all took stabs you do not believe work.
Of those who are “fully vaccinated”:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242398
So what’s the point of vaccine passports if the vaccinated are too terrified to go outside anyway? Might as well leave the rest of us to live our lives whilst these lunatics hide under their beds.
Excellent! I am not vaccinated and have no plans to do so and would LOVE to do all of those things that the vaccinated are too scared to do.
How long do you reckon it’ll take for somebody to produce fake “passports”, to which I’ll be getting one, or at 65 I could say I don’t have a smart phone.
I don’t know. But when someone finds a supplier, please let me know.
For a friend, obvs.
And me, for a friend, obvs. Game the system – serve the stasi right!!
I’ve seen reference somwhere else today, to a German police “concern” that fake vax certificates are being made.
Who would have Thunk it.
Funny wording on “needed”…
Cinema visits need passports like clay Pidgeon shooting needs an accordion.
You’re not getting my custom if you exclude me from your establishment for being healthy.
Your post just made me think of something.
If you are “vaccinated” you can still catch the virus. We don’t know to what extent but it would appear that the “vaccines” are pretty useless in that regard. They just mask symptoms.
So what will these “vaccine passports” do? Will they create “super-spreader” events amongst the “vaccinated”? Has anyone actually thought any of this through?
Not really because it’s all a load of bollox
Given there are now roughly ZERO actual cases, it’s utterly irrelevant.
In fact, by end January, the positivity in Pillar 2 was roughly the FPR of the lateral flow test. They’d sneakily turned down the number of cycles.
Passports were/are never going to work across the board or long term….. Totally illogical and full of holes arguments. This has all been about driving the fearful to the edge and hauling back in again, methinks.
Unless this is stopped in its tracks and we change the globalist mindset of the Civil Service, cut by half the ridiculous SpAds, Committees and Quangos, all this rhetoric is empty.
We have a weak and feeble government bought by the big Corporations. We have a country in its knees due to years and years of Project Fear and propaganda. We have a generation coming through who will not know how to think for themselves, make a decision without Government approval or indeed have the inspiration to climb out of poverty. Now doesn’t that sound just like Rural China, North Korea and Cuba. All these countries went through the ‘Venezuela’ syndrome before they ended where they are now.
Until we have honest conversations about the real motives behind this scam, we cannot move forward. America is moving slowly forward and they are addressing these issues. Fauci will go, Biden will be proven a false President, WHO will be defunded, the Police will be refunded. How long will it take for the UK to open its eyes?
The UK has been on a downward slide for an age, it just needed the corona hoax to bring out the level of sheer cretinisation in the sheeple.
Didn’t take the experimental biological. Boy do I feel good. So many with problems post jabs. And yet these same people al’ost can’t wait for their top up. The same people telling me “we must do as we are told”. How scary is that?