The Covid vaccine rollout is set to extend to those below the age of 40 from Thursday, with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines being offered as alternatives to that made by AstraZeneca “where possible”. MailOnline has the story.
An NHS bulletin showed adults aged 38 and 39 will be invited to come forward for their jab from Thursday morning.
They will be offered either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine on the back of guidance from medical regulators last week.
The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) said under-40s should be given an alternative to the AstraZeneca jab due to its link to rare blood clots.
The NHS Digital bulletin said 38 and 39 year-olds already booked in for a first dose of the British vaccine will have their appointment cancelled…
The vaccine rollout is currently in phase two – which includes people between 20 to 49 – and is moving down by age.
The Government says it is on track to fully vaccinate every adult in Britain by the end of July.
Everyone in phase one of the scheme, which included elderly people and patients with underlying health conditions, has already been offered a vaccine.
Uptake is thought to be around 90% in the over-60s U.K.-wide, while coverage in the over-50s is above 50% and still climbing. Over-50s only started to be invited last month…
The JCVI – which advises the Government on how best to vaccinate the population – said younger people should be offered an alternative to the AZ jab because of its link to blood clots.
So far regulators have spotted major blood clots in 242 people given the AZ vaccine, of whom 49 died. But they are occurring more in younger adults, with a rate of around one in 60,000 under-40s.
Experts said the infection rate in the U.K. is now so low that the risk of the rare clots outweighs that of Covid in younger adults, who often only suffer mild illness.
They will be offered the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines instead, so long as there is enough supply and it won’t delay the rollout.
Given that the risk of blood clots after taking the AstraZeneca vaccine outweighs the risk of Covid in younger adults, it is strange that the JCVI has only advised for alternatives to be given “where possible and only where no substantial delay would arise“. Why not just restrict its use for those below the age of 40 altogether?
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So you can have Pfizer unless the Fascists are in a hurry. Otherwise it’s dilly dilly, dilly dilly, come and be killed, for you must be stuffed and our snake oil quotas filled.
Help yourselves to blood clots, muppets. And take your kids along.
Annie – please consider taking over as PM … you write so much good sense … and always make me laugh!
I’m not stopping at PM, my goal is world domination.
(Cue laughs.)
Like an anti-Schwab. You will work hard and have something to show for it. You will not be happy all the time and that’s just fine. Life is like that, and personal resilience is thus acquired.
The current risk of death with the jab is 1 in 44,000 jabs (or about 1 in 31,000 persons). The risk of death ‘with covid’ in 2020 for a healthy 35-40 year-old was 1 in 99,000.
So double the risk of a ‘with covid’ death by having a jab.
And that’s only the immediate result – the future adverse effects are unknown.
Multiply the current vaccine death figures by a minimum of ten and a more likely risk scenario is seen. And as you say, the longer term deaths of the vaccinated have yet to be seen.
“The current risk of death with the jab is 1 in 44,000 jabs”. Some more detail would be handy here. Over what time period (the chances of dying some time after taking the jab is of course 100%)? For what age group? Do you mean the chance of dying with the jab or the increased chance of dying after taking the jab?
They’re whizzing through these age group categories now, why is that?
Take up is low, I hope.
However, I suspect they wish to get as far as possible through the population, before the sheeple start to notice the bodies piling up. I wonder whether a large placebo ratio was deployed, for the elderly cohorts, to create an enhanced public perception of “vaccine” safety.
I’m hoping the take up is low too. Each to their own to make their own choices and I do not preach (mostly because I do not wish to be preached at by declining) but I am still staggered at the fact that too many people believe the narrative that the benefits outweigh the risks with over a 99% survival rate.
Roll up! Roll up! Get your vaccines here! Mix and Match! Two for a Pound the COVID Vaccines! Already had AZ Madam? why not have a Moderna, they go together like apples and bicycles! All perfectly safe, the Health Secretary said so himself, and he’s got a PPE degree!
Hurry hurry hurry, they’re going fast!
What a time to be alive.
Made I laugh… Like that.
“Why not just restrict its use for those below the age of 40 altogether?”
1) The risk of dying from Covid varies according to its prevalence and with new variants. The risk from the vaccine is pretty much fixed.
2) Taking the vaccine doesn’t just protect you – it helps protect the community around you.
So maybe allow them the freedom to choose? Or we not so keen on civil liberties in this case?
The science is clear. Under 40s are far more likely to die from the vaccine in the short term than they are from Covid. Once you factor in the potential for future health consequences and premature death from the vaccine, vaccinating the under 40s is exposed for the insane, demonic act of evil it truly is. When you factor in the details of how HMG and the Medical Establishment have moved mountains to suppress safe drug treatments like Ivermectin, it becomes clear that the only crisis we face is the fact that our government is evil and we are compelled to warn our fellow citizens about this
I am very surprised you think the science is clear. Isn’t a bit of scepticism in order? Just consider the uncertainties on both side the choice.
If you don’t take the vaccine.
If you get vaccinated:
This is a little easier to predict, although still full of uncertainties.
Let me emphasise that the only thing I am arguing is that the science is far from clear. I am personally convinced that the case for vaccination if you are young is very strong – although it makes sense to go for the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines – but that is another story and I wouldn’t call it settled science it is a pragmatic decision based on inevitably uncertain science.
Sadly all figures based on the dodgy data that is the PCR. You don’t mean infected, you mean a positive test, which, after fifteen months you should understand is not the same. Difficult for me to accept arguments from people who suggest figures based on PCR are unquestionably scientific.
If the PCR doesn’t tell you someone is currently infected, and it doesn’t, then ALL your figures are wrong and useless.
We DO know with certainty that people are dying from the Vaxx.
There is great asymmetry in the way scepticism is applied on this site. Because some PCR tests generate false positives any statistics about prevalence or deaths due to Covid are throw out of the window, any kind of rumour or data that hints that vaccines might kill people are taken as certain.
Let’s be equally sceptical about both and start investigating rather than campaigning.
Dear Brigade Commander you are not vaguely sceptic of the vaccines though are you?
So go blow your smoke up somebody else’s arse!
The closest thing you will ever get to winning an internet debate is when your opponent resorts to personal insults.
There’s no debate. You think the vaccine is fantastic and everyone should get one. You are a vaccine shill, nothing more.
Please feel free to think you’ve won’.
The CVT blood clots are INCREDIBLY rare – 3-4 cases per year per million people. And they’re more likely to be young not old. They’re pretty much unheard of – like an A&E doctor would never see one in their career. So I’m not sure where you get the 1 in a 1000 chance from? 243 people in the UK have got CVT so far this year from CVT after getting the vaccine and 49 of them have died – and that’s the ones the Yellow Card people know about/admit to. That’s a lot more than would normally have been seen!
I was writing about the risk of blood clots in general, not CVTs which I agree are incredibly rare whether you have been vaccinated or not. As a matter of interest where did you get the 243 statistic? According to this report there were 79 cases out of which 19 had died – but that was April 20th – maybe the figures have been revised since? In any case, the numbers are so small it is hardly worth spending time on them.
You have no idea of the current status.All cerebral venous thrombosis brain(they are coded differently)193.167 of them pure cerbral sinus venous thrombosis th remaining venous thrombosis in the brain other partds as seroiously.
The vaccine should only be used in riskgroups in the young.The cases are escalating,your figures are already outdated just showing which problems this vaccine has in the younger patients
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/983475/COVID-19_vaccine_AstraZeneca_analysis_print.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3INL7vURFWQtZz9CxT3RSRkXKrfILtC0_MPGLJB24xzGR4iH8n7IyKFac
We do know how long it’s protection lasts: zero. It’s not advertised as an infection prevention ‘vaccine’ (although it’s labelled as one), just as a method of mitigating infection, when it occurs (according to the NHS leaflets promoting it’s use).
I guess it depends on what you mean by protection. No vaccine is perfect. There is extremely strong evidence from clinical trials and real world use that all the vaccines greatly reduce both your chances of infection and your chances of serious symptoms if you are infected (do I need to dig up the references?). If there is an NHS leaflet that says it does not reduce your chance of infection, I would be intrigued to see it.
Fon(g) re-branded.
Yep, let them choose, provided, in writing and well ahead of the injection:
1) They’re told they’re experimental treatments that aren’t approved but only have experimental use authorisation;
2) They’re told experimental use authorisation is only meant to apply when no other treatments are available and the alternative to the experimental treatment is a high probability of death, neither of which are true here;
3) They’re told the government and NHS aren’t putting one hundredth of the effort into recording treatment side-effects that they’re putting into promoting the experimental treatments;
4) They’re told nobody has the faintest idea of the long-term effects of these experimental treatments; and
5) They’re told that if they suffer serious side-effects, if they’re lucky it will take years to obtain laughably inadequate compensation.
I meant emergency use authorisation, obviously!
I was going to write a long thing, then I realised it won’t make an arse-crack bit of difference to the covidians of which I include family and friends. What the frick is going on? Really! What is fricking wrong with them?
I agree, allow choice, but with full disclosure of risks, mandatory reporting of possibly linked deaths and side effects by medics, autopsies of all possibly linked deaths, and for the sake of impartiality being seen to be done, remove the Pfizer Yellow Card reporting from Imperial and give it to a disinterested party. Maybe in Norway. Or Sweden. Or Florida.
Clear advice that those who have had the disease do not need the jab. That’s the science. No lying to jabees, telling them in the clinic that it has been tested in trials on hypothyroid patients. Very full monitoring by impartial scientists.
Children no. No choice. The equation is clear there.
And an end to on line censorship of discussion of potential dangers.
Yes choice should be the default position, but governments have a long tradition of protecting people from making insane choices. Arguably, all of the injections, not just the AZ concoction, fall into this category, for all bar the extremely CoViD vulnerable.
I think one of the profound weaknesses of this entire scheme is that it’s being rolled out like a new operating system. (And no I am NOT saying they’ve put a fucking chip in you).
I don’t know about anyone else, but I never download the latest operating system when it appears on my phone. Because then shit always gets worse before it gets better. Eventually, after they’ve rolled out a couple of patches and it’s all simmered down for a while, I’ll finally agree to download it.
But the human body doesn’t work like that. There are a myriad of evolutionary variables that mean you cannot possibly, nor have we ever been able to, create “one-size-fits-all” solutions. And when you fuck up, you kill and maim people. You can’t fix dead.
So you’ve got to be damn clear with those that take it that there WILL be deaths, miscarriages, MS, irreversible infertility etc, and should it be one of them, they personally will fall under the heading of acceptable collateral damage. And the tarif that indicates the value of their life in this country is £120,000 and MANY lost years of life fighting to get a portion of that awarded because every risk factors in your life will be used to reduce that fee. And this time, ignorance is no excuse.
So there you have it. The human race has been reduced to the status of a bunch of mobile phones. Crashing and spluttering away as “patch” after “patch” slows their operating system until the whole thing needs replacing.
I’d thought before that, in software terms, the CoViD injections are on Beta release. Maybe it would help if we could get that message across to people, especially those who’ve had experience of Mr Gates’s original products, and know how dire Beta can be.
Brilliant analogy.
“Roll out”, “offer”, “vaccine”…if you use the language of your oppressor, you remain oppressed.
Anyone under 40 who takes this vaccine is a moron. I fully expect 85% or more to still jump at the chance to take it. Our high emotion, low information young adults are playing russian roulette and for absolutely no good reason.
‘High emotion, low information’ accurately sums it up. My 17 year old daughter walked out of school on Tuesday after a discussion about the vaccines turned nasty. The majority of her friends started shouting at her in the common room after she said she would not be taking a vaccine and tried to explain the reasons behind her decision. They all bar one rounded on her. That’s not even peer-pressure – it’s out and out bullying And not a single one of them had read anything beyond what they’ve been told on the news.
So I’d like to thank our governments for turning our children into an ill-informed, vicious mob who now think it’s OK to taunt and bully their peers for their personal health decisions. And now we have them producing materials for use in school effectively coaching them through any kind of vaccine hesitancy or should we call it ‘how to pass a Gillick competence test’ so if Pfizer get their way this won’t just effective our older teenagers – our ‘high emotion, low information’ children will be able to accept even without parental consent – fucking terrifying.
If I was religious, I would pray for them. I now know so many of that age who can’t wait to be stabbed.
I’m truly terrified as my daughter is getting jabbed when she gets the appointment and she’s had covid.
I agree. I also have family and friends who have taken the Jabz, so as much as I think they’re morons and deserve what they get, in reality I’m quietly hoping the vaxx are just F*****g useless and that they’ll be ok.
I was just thinking this morning about how you have an immunity test for TB before they give you the vaccine. Why not do this for covid?
My guess is partly because people who’ve had a positive PCR test will come back negative.
Money. I suggested this to my GP via the surgery, and they avoided replying directly to that. I know that it would not look nice for their cash flow. If I wanted it done, I would have to shell out to the private sector and the necessary transport to have it done.
Why would anyone accept these frankensteinian concoctions ..
Scroll down to No. 6 .. What the covid 19 vaccine Astrazenesa contains
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca
Phizer doen’t sound quite so bad .. but it is still synthetic frankensteinian stuff
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/information-for-uk-recipients-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine
These experimental injections must not be given to children