Stephen Reicher, a Professor of Social Psychology at the University of St Andrews and member of SAGE, has warned that the introduction of vaccine passports could lead to people refusing to get vaccinated against Covid. MailOnline has the story.
Green-lighting domestic Covid vaccine passports would be an admission by ministers that the jab rollout is destined to fail, a Government scientist warned today.
Professor Stephen Reicher, a top social psychologist who sits on SAGE, said forcing people to produce jab certificates to enjoy their freedoms would only make sense if not enough people were being jabbed.
But uptake of the vaccines has already exceeded the Government’s most ambitious expectations, with more than 90% of people over-50 accepting their invitation. The rollout is going so well it has already moved down to over-40s ahead of schedule.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock says that almost two-thirds of all adults in England have received one dose of a Covid vaccine. 29.4% are now fully vaccinated.
Professor Reicher told the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Coronavirus that the Government would be “setting itself up for failure” if it decided to introduce domestic vaccine passports.
Professor Reicher warned that a really strict jab certification regime could undermine the immunisation programme and lead to more people refusing a jab.
He said it would make voluntary jabs mandatory by proxy and create resentment and anger among the public.
Professor Reicher warned that compelling people would lead to a significant number turning it down out of protest.
“There is a very traditional, well-known psychological process called reactance: that if you take away people’s autonomy, if you force them to do something, they will reassert their autonomy, even if that means not doing things that they would otherwise want to do.
“Making something compulsory, or at least doing something which leaves the perception of compulsion can actually undermine activities which otherwise people would do and might even want to do.”
Boris Johnson promised that the vaccine programme alone would be the country’s ticket to freedom and insisted the Government was committed to avoiding a compulsory system.
Covid vaccine passports have already been confirmed for when foreign travel resumes on May 17th but exactly how they’ll be deployed domestically remains unknown.
The PM has ruled out using them for going to the pub or supermarket but the Government is currently trialling a similar system for larger events such as concerts, sports matches and club nights.
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Just as I think the lockdown is the answer to the vaccine (not the other way around), I think the passport is more important than the vaccine.
Or maybe I am just completely nuts.
So, did Toby give me six down votes? I don’t think a lockdown happened in response to a health threat. I think the vaccine wa planend all along and lockdown provided the means to get large numbers of people to take it.
Yes you have it right this time. Agreed that the lockdowns and all the other restrictions were simply ways of coercing the simple minded into taking the vaccines, that aren’t vaccines. The great depopulator Bill Gates, will be happy that, at least in the UK, the genocide is going to plan.
they were talking from the outset of being saved by vaccines when no vaccine had ever been created in such a short timeframe before. Clearly they had it all planned in advance.
I think you may have not been clear in your original post.
Now that you make yourself clear: Up vote!
This is hearsay at the moment but someone I know says their friend was killed by the vaccine. 24 years old and otherwise healthy- was struck down by a clot on the brain 2 days after. That’s manslaughter at best
The 22 year son of my mother’s neighbour was still in hospital the last I heard. He had the jab and had a blood clot. He’d been in hospital 13 days when she told me. Perfectly safe.
Brothers sister in law had full body rashes, full anaphylaxis reaction to tbe Pfizer vaccine. Large doses of adrenelin required. She looked horrendous when I seen her.
But it’s perfectly safe. It must be, they took nearly a year to develop and test it and bring it out. Under emergency authorisation. Because ivermectin and vitamin D don’t work – even though they do.
And Handcock said the other day that the top up jabs have been worked on for over a year. Hang on, they only started poisoning people 6 months ago; so they already not only knew variants were coming but what they’d be.
“Keep taking the jabs until we find the right one to kill you”.
Hancock as Minister for Health, now that’s got to be an oxymoron of ever there was one.
The shills fro the vaccine are saying there have been zero deaths. I have been suspended from Fakebook for posting a link to European Medicines Agency on vaccine deaths. Fakebook say that Politifact say that no death can be attributed tot he vaccine.
It must be safe, the people who sell it even say so, and they should know.
Joe Biden addressed the vaccine concert in LA the other night and said it was safe. Case closed then.
Look at the manufacturers’ own sites. And the Yellow Card site. They give numbers of deaths and injuries.
Then of course, no deaths can be attributed to Covid-19.
Silly goose. No-one has ever died of any vaccine ever
unfortunately I think that it will require a number of severe casualties of the younger generation and kids to reach the MSM to put the brakes on this vaccine obsession. People have frankly lot their minds and it’s clearly not about a virus any longer.
It never was about a virus. The problem is that the gov are rolling the so-called vaccine programme out at warp speed, so by the time people start to hear about others their own age having terrible side effects, it may be too late. From my experience, the younger people are, the more they want their freedom back and are prepared to offer themselves up for an experimental intervention in the hope they might get said freedom back. It will be too late for many when they realise they’ve been duped.
I was working on the basis that up to 20% of healthy under fifties would refuse the covid jab. Do you think that’s wide of the mark then?
No, I don’t. In fact I think and hope it will be higher than that. I’ve been keeping a very close eye on the vaccination figures by age group (in my UK country anyway) and the percentage uptake by age group is steadily decreasing with lower age. But what’s really interesting is seeing how many people who had the first injection are not having the second. Also hearing that from people first hand. There’s nothing like an unpleasant reaction to put people off putting their hand in the fire again.
This is our best hope at the moment.
When I’m asked, or rather, am told: “you’ve got the vaccine, I assume,” and I reply, “No! It’s experimental,” the busybodies are stunned and confused. Most have no idea.
I say “rushed experimental untested and doesn’t stop you catching it or passing it on” but that’s probably too many words
I reply that I’m not effin’ insane enough to risk an experimental “vaccine” to counter a disease which exposes me to as much danger as killer whales.
Helenf, have just been googling and can’t find a link to up-to-date, ie as of this week or last, uptake figures by age group. Would be grateful if you could supply one.
The Spectator update their Covid Tracker page daily
The Spectator Covid Tracker | Vaccine tracker | The Spectator
https://public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
These are the Welsh data. Click on the vaccination tab
I suppose they don’t do news blackouts on this like they do with certain protests do they? (or simply blame something else).
It’s never been about a virus, it’s always been about depopulation. Many more deaths to come over the coming months. The “vaccinated” are now dead people still walking, at least for a while.
Most of my family have taken it, so I really hope you’re wrong on that point. I keep reading online and trying to find some comforting news that will make me less afraid. I don’t mean MSM bias but something from an intelligent source on the other side. Instead, I just get my worst fears amplified. I read these reports about vaccinating children and I think to myself how on earth is this being allowed to happen? This is evil cruelty that boggles the mind. And probably if you polled the nation now? The majority would support it for stopping the spread or avoiding ‘long covid’ and other such falsehoods that are accepted as undeniable truths.
I feel as you do. My nearest and dearest are in thrall to this and have accepted the vaks. I’m very worried too, and I really hope they’ll be SAFE – now THERE’s the proper use of the word.
If it’s planned, they won’t kill too many younger people. It would make people suspicious for one thing. And I think these depopulation types would be more interested in going for the “useless eaters” as they see them – the very old and chronically unhealthy. And if it affects fertility, that would very much suit their agenda.
True but wouldn’t this plan take too long? These guys will all be dead by the time the world has been depopulated significantly through sterilization.
At first I thought the chaos of millions of dying would cause too much unrest.
But then I realised they can blame all of that on covid, which people already see as this deadly disease. This will be quite convenient as people will also not want to see the truth and their own idiocy at falling for it. Things can then continue with covid now elevated to a GENUINE deadly threat (though really the deaths are caused by vaccines).
With the way India is being reported on now, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the ‘new, deadly Indian variant’ arrive which renders all vaccines ineffective (actually kills the vaccinated due to exaggerated immune response). It will be made all the more disturbing after a period of relative calm/apparent end of the ‘pandemic’ in the summer.
*gulp* Hope I’m wrong.
No problem, the lockdowns and their fallout will kill many millions in the third world, presumably the big prize for these types. Thinking about it, a big and long-term increase in global poverty might be quite convenient for these people – it would eliminate many of the poorest whilst they of course would be protected from any fallout – indeed the likes of Amazon have done very well from this.
Standard operating procedure for these types is surely to go for soft targets.
the indian scariant will be the justification for the necessity of the third “booster” shot
It is the young that have most to lose and little to gain in terms of health. If a year or two post vaccination, people develop chronic illness or die, it will simply be put down to a new variant and then those still surviving will be standing in line for yet another round of the depopulating vaccines. All too easy, most people are and will remain clueless to their bitter end.
Most will do what their parents want. Most of the children’s parents have already taken the vaccine so are hardly going to be open to questioning the safety of it. Darker times ahead, unfortunately.
But do you not think that at some point the people who have had the vaccination and start to succumb to ill effects will look at the unvaccinated and see us not doing likewise and make the link??
I know exactly where you are coming from. I have two brothers, who’ve both ignored the advice of the likes of Mike Yeadon and Sucharit Bhakdi. Instead they have foolishly placed their trust in rogues, like Matt Hancock, Boris Johnson and Bill Gates, blithely baring their arms for the lethal injections and so are now just two more lambs to the ongoing slaughter.
I find it hard to look at either of them, never mind talk to them, as all I feel is a quiet rage at their utter stupidity.
It’s scary how many previoisly sensible rational people have been suckered, and worse still when they start jabbing their kids
Firstly, please accept a big thank you to all of you on here. I’m a long-time lurker and read the comments on here daily (often after skimming the articles, it seems people on here are better informed than the lunatics in charge).
Zeppo, I also share your concerns. I have friends, family and colleagues who are now vaccinated and I am deeply concerned.
Without wishing to introduce politics into this, I would just like to say that I read across the political spectrum as I try and understand exactly what is going on. I don’t like echo chambers and I really don’t like confirmation bias.
I want my ideas to be challenged and want new information to consider, not to reinforce my worldview, otherwise it’s a waste of time.
I’ve put a huge amount of time and research into the vaccine topic – using the same “research methodology” I use for politics, and unfortunately, the dearth of science or research to backup the “vaccines” is extremely alarming.
Just to give one example, the CDC still claims the spike protein in the shots is “harmless” despite three scientific papers dating to December stating otherwise, and another dating back to September 2020. All were deliberately ignored and still are being ignored.
The CDC says:
“COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.”
If they can tell a lie like this with a straight face, then everything else they say goes out of the window.
You have some of the best doctors and scientists (often both) in the world, in many cases the most-highly cited in their fields of all time, saying that this is going to be a disaster.
On the other hand you have known liars, propagandists and paid-off shills from academia (all with publicly-known grants from Bill and soon not to be Melinda Gates) promoting poison made by companies that kill hundreds of thousands of people a year with their products at the best of times.
I am, sadly discovering new horrors on an almost daily basis now. Yesterday I discovered that the mRNA vaccines contain cationic lipids, which have been known to scientists to be highly toxic for twenty years now.
This weekend a family friend got her second Pfizer and is now in hospital – after a faint/fall. This is starting to get close to home and it’s terrifying.
I wish I could sugar coat this but all we can do is keep banging the rocks together and keep sounding the warning to try and help others from making a dreadful mistake.
Glad you graduated from lurking to posting baboon – thanks for sharing your thoughts. Sadly, I don’t think there is a sugar coating to be applied. Time after time I have tried to reassure myself with thoughts like “it couldn’t possibly happen” when I have read doomsday predictions online about what is being ushered in under cover of the “pandemic” and we are now at the point where the things I hoped couldn’t happen are indeed happening. I have family and friends who have had the vaccination and I fear for them too.
It will take a few years but the injections will prime the immune system to be more antagonistic towards any other common cold virus (all brands) which will in turn cull the elderly and the compromised
This is what they want
Yes, that is my take on it. I look at the people I know who have been vaccinated and wonder to myself “how long have you got left? when will the horrendous illness the jab is likely to cause begin to develop?”
I think that too many individuals’ brains have been kidnapped and taken walkies by the Fear Fairy.
Like this you mean?
https://t.me/vaccineawareness/78976
And more likely genocide. They know exactly what they are doing.
I’ve started using the word genocide in the last few days. I was cautious a year ago when I saw the direction heading away from cock-up towards conspiracy. I am trusting my gut more now. There is no other explanation for the incessant need to vaccinate children.
We all feel like that I think. In the space of a year I’ve become a card-carrying tin foil hat wearer!
I think when you look at what has happened over the last year +, the lies, the lack of scientific debate, the mass censorship, the refusal to use proven medication, the propaganda, the vaxxing of children etc, for Gods sake, no wonder we all feel like conspiracy nuts and use words we wouldn’t have before!
While I am still cautious about certain things I am much more aware now of the reality of the WEF’s influence, the malign influence of The Gates, the domination in politics of big tech and big Pharma, all of which I think are real and not in any way conspiratorial.
I have wondered if this is part of the reason they want to force this on everyone as rapidly as possible. If a sizeable proportion of the population steadfastly continue to refuse the jab, they will effectively become a ‘control group’. It will become obvious if the unvaccinated are unaffected by the next deadly virus/variant while we see horrific death figures among those vaccinated.
Well I know of two frail people killed by strokes one day after and one week after “vaccination”, one middle-aged cardiac arrest, one hearing problems (still after weeks) which suggests they had a near-miss brain injury and many being bed ridden for days.
I know of three people who had the virus, all fully recovered. Is the “vaccine” a risk worth taking???
I know of one who recovered from the virus, but not completely, and the next week went for their vaccination. Still wondering how that is going to play out down the line.
Restaurant owner I frequent regular had a stroke a week after first jab
He’s in a right mess
Complete coincidence naturally
Just a reminder:
The injections are still undergoing Phase 3 clinical studies, of which the estimated completion dates are each no earlier than late October 2022 (Moderna mRNA-1273: 27 October 2022; AstraZeneca AZD1222: 14 February 2023; Pfizer BioNTech BNT162b2: 6 April 2023).
Yes. Are they telling people that when they go for their jabs then?
The miracle flu jab that stops variants that I mentioned was supposed to go from start of first human trials in 2013 to widespread availability by 2018 – and appears to have come to nothing in the end. Presumably there is no guarantee that these covid jabs would be approved by 2022, or even at all.
Professor John Oxford was the key researcher on this by the way.
I thought exactly this when I read Hancock’s tweet, above. If we didn’t live in Clown World, Twitter would label all tweets like that with a warning regarding the fact it’s a phase 3 clinical trial.
Hmm, so a bit of reverse psychology then. Methinks vaccine uptake ISN’T as great as they are making out. The reason people don’t want it because they they’ve done their research and know what this “vaccine” is, and what it does and doesn’t do! Passports are a major factor but it’s just part of a bigger picture. There’s still no way I’d want it even if they removed the passport threat.
My body, my choice. If I ever leave this country again it will be a one-way ticket. I can always buy a boat of those chaps the Govt is ferrying across the channel everyday i’m sure, worst case.
Country’s ended up like with those democracy activists who tried to flee Hong Kong on rickety old boats. Crazy times.
Surely telling if a lot of nurses and care home workers are refusing?
Even if the passport threat comes into being I’m still not having it.
This sounds like the ramblings of a madman. Also the overt discussion on how people can be coerced into taking an experimental therapy is a sign of just how detached these people have become.
Here is an NHS board member telling us just how insane the management now is:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/senior-nhs-board-member-warns-stop-the-genocide-or-our-children-are-next
“The government is committed to avoiding a compulsory system” but is trialling something similar for concerts etc.
Not good enough, Mr. Johnson. Rule them out domestically or lose votes on Thursday
I would never vote Tory again whom ever leads them. In fact Westminster is not fit for purpose so I’ll do something else with my time
Is it just me who’s f’ing sick of seeing and hearing people using the terms “jab” and “jabbed”? Not only is it utterly childish, it completely distances itself from the reality that we’re talking about injections here, substances being injected into the body, to have an effect on the body. You never hear of people referring to drug users “jabbing” themselves with heroin, or someone in prison being killed by “lethal jab”.
They are handing out NHS reward stickers to fully grown (often in their senior years) adults when they get their second “jab”. Treated like primary school children and they don’t even see it.
neoteny is a trait of pets and other domesticated stock.
The citizenry has been treated like children for decades now, and has become increasingly dependent and enfeebled in thought and deed. How else could the powers that be pull this off?
I take your point. I use the word ‘jab’ in preference to the misnomer ‘vaccine’. When writing, the term ‘experimental genetic and chemical compound’ becomes a little unwieldy.
I’m old fashioned (and sadly old in fact!) and I have a little bugbear about things like, C U later, Xmas, snax,(for snacks) it one of my hates so I use Jabz because it is as annoying and stupid as the people who go on about it!
Madge Halfcock says ”the vaccine is saving lives”. How does the silly prat work THAT out? There IS no virus lurking around at present – it is NOT ”saving lives”. It MAY in the future – though that’s highly questionable. But at the moment? He really doesn’t care about making a fool of himself, does he?
Statistically right now it’s taking lives
It is propaganda – psychological manipulation – he isn’t bothered by something as banal as facts or logic
Requiring passports for concerts, nightclubs etc will put pressure on the already shafted youth to have a vaccine they don’t need. Furthermore, it is young people who are less inclined to worry about the loss of freedoms, and therefore to accept a passport. They won’t know what they are giving up until it’s too late.
How about stop treating us as a second year psych study and giving us our democratic CHOICE, HUH!?
Democracy, now that would be a novelty.
I found this a day or two ago (Human rights)…Bodily integrity is the inviolability of the physical body and emphasizes the importance of personal autonomy, self-ownership, and self-determination of human beings over their own bodies. I have no idea as to how much weight it actually carries in law, .any ideas?.
Ps..where are all the shouty Human Rights legal teams and Lawyers?
No the courts have just bent over and stopped any cases going through court. From Simon dolan’s case to the free speech objection to offcom stopping people from talking about the disease and having to follow government guidelines. They just will not put them forward, if they went to court the government case would not stand up. Another mob along with the msm who will be the first up against the wall when it all kicks off.
So Handjob, the jab saves lives. Got any proof of that statement? You know scientific evidence? Did you look at all the deaths from Jan to now to see how many people died after getting their jab? The infection rate was falling like a stone anyway and deaths were falling already. So was it lockdown, the jab or seasonal trends that stopped death from knocking at my door? But in reality it can’t be the jab, because if it was you could stop lockdown right? We are all safe as the most at risk are jabbed. So the ONLY way to find out if it worked is to set us free and see if we all start dropping dead. I mean hundreds if thousands marched unmasked through your city, shouting all over each other. Was there an uptick in infection? I bet none of them were jabbed? So where is your fucking deadly pandemic?
We now know that the cheap efficacious treatment Ivermectin renders the emergency use of vaccines null and void and subsequently passport vaccines too. What I find absolutely incredible is if ivermectin had killed and injured as many people as the experimental gene therapies have done over the last four months, including teenagers in the US (see below), the media would have been like a Rottweiler on steroids! There would have been merry hell to play with murder and manslaughter charges flying all over the place. I am lost for words!
“As The Defender reported last week, the latest VAERS data included three reports of teens under age 18 who died after receiving COVID vaccines, including two 15-year-olds and one 16-year-old who died unexpectedly from a blood clot 11 days after receiving her first Pfizer dose.
A 15-year-old female died of cardiac arrest after receiving the second dose of the Moderna vaccine, and a 15-year-old male died of cardiac failure two days after receiving the Pfizer vaccine.”