A member of SAGE has suggested that the Government should learn from the Black Lives Matter movement in how to make mask-wearing and social distancing “an inherent part” of attending sports events, as plans are being drawn up to ban drinking and encourage stamping and clapping rather than cheering at large events. The Times has the story.
Sports fans could be banned from drinking and encouraged to stamp and clap instead of cheering under plans to make mass events safe for the summer.
As British cities prepare to host football’s European Championships, tests are under way to discover whether it is better for social distancing to ban alcohol or to serve fans pints in their seats to prevent crowding at bars.
Ministers have accepted that testing before entry is likely to be required to make concerts, festivals and sporting fixtures safe even after all restrictions are lifted on June 21st. They are debating which elements of social distancing and Covid-secure rules will need to remain in place beyond that date…
Boris Johnson is keen to take a cautious approach to reopening and pilots are taking place to see which mitigation measures will need to be retained at concerts, nightclubs and stadiums.
The use of masks, physical distancing, hugs and handshakes, singing and the sharing of food and drink are all being monitored using CCTV and wearable devices. Different levels of social distancing rules and ventilation are also being trialled, with participants being tested five days later…
Professor Dame Theresa Marteau of the University of Cambridge, a behavioural scientist and member of SAGE, is chairing the scientific group overseeing the test events. In a scientific paper published just before they began, she argued it would be essential to create “new norms” for sports and music fans. “While it is a basic norm of many sports crowds that people express passionate support for their team, and without that the whole activity has little meaning… it may be possible to develop new and distinctive ways of expressing that passion (stamping, clapping, etc) that are of lower risk than shouting or singing,” she wrote.
She suggested learning from the Black Lives Matter movement in how to weave Covid-secure messages into the fabric of sporting events – making social distancing and mask-wearing “an inherent part” of what it means to be a fan of a team. However, she emphasised this would need to be developed in partnership with fans rather than imposed by the Government.
Players and pop stars should be encouraged to “scrupulously observe restrictions such as not hugging each other after a success” to reinforce the message, she suggested.
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Which part of FUCK and OFF don’t they understand?
Anyone who attends any of these ‘sanitized’ events needs to ask themselves this:
If they and every other member of the crowd has tested negative what does it matter whether they shout, sing or eat and drink?
Anyone playing along with this lunacy deserves to have a very dull life, lived in black & white.
I’ve been trying to imagine going to a sanitized concert. Among the many gigs I’ve been to, I’ve seen The Killers quite a few times and trying to imagine nothing but clapping when Mr. Brightside starts up…….yeah….that’s never gonna happen.
Stop this nonsense, take back your freedoms. Demand they be given back. Stop sitting on your hands.
This is nothing to do with health and actually nothing to do with “the great reset” either. It’s simply another manifestation of a deeply puritanical and joyless aspect of human nature that rears it’s head throughout history and periodically gains ascendency. We are unfortunate to be living through one such period.
Isn’t this a bit dodgy? Soldiers are told to break step when marching over bridges for a reason.
The men (and those identifying as men) couild beat their chests if their team wins… like gorillas.
For a foretaste of things to come, these are the conditions that audience members at the Crucible HAD TO SIGN A CONTRACT AGREEING TO, in order to attend.
https://wst.tv/checklist/
No bloody way is any event worth going to under those conditions.
Yes, a foretaste indeed. That’s one to go in the file for reference! Note the use of the NHS app!
Sorry, I don’t recall seeing a SAGE party candidate last time I voted…
Yes, it’s a coup d’etat. Big pharma’s had too much influence for years and years, only difference now is it’s more obvious.
BLM is the go-to political formation for liberal technocrats and system managers hungry for vicarious street-fighting credibility. The corporate world draws from the same well – business discourse, especially around diversity in recruitment, frequently references ‘what BLM has taught us’, ‘how the death of George Floyd changed the way we think about…’ etc etc. Like the other alphabet protest groups (RTS, XR, KTB) BLM is an approved and managed form of rebellion – unlike the anti-lockdown movement, of course, which is a genuine insurgency, or at least possesses the capacity for mass insurgency.
I’m up for stamping – on Boris’s balls.
Here’s the SAGE zealot who wants to control our minds and make us all “more healthy”:
She’s only 64 in that pic and looks like she could be 84.
A case of “physician heal thyself”.
She’s one of those “nudge” fuckers; a menace to society. And at 68 she’s long past the time when she should have retired. Taken to a logical conclusion, she’s doing a younger person out of a job.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Marteau
Ye gods!
Christ, I didn’t know what she looked like but, after reading this article I had a photo-fit in mind…and it fitted!
Lol!
Silicone valley is making sure that the only smiles we can see are those on our social media pages. There will be no more socializing as we know it unless it is via facebook. And when the climate agenda comes next it will further reduce society to a bunch of pixels
Strange times we live in, when being normal is an alternative lifestyle!!!
Just a thought, what if we all make an effort to join old normal groups for regular meeetups, even if it means attending events we would not normally be interested in? Perhaps some people will go to raves for the first time, just as a point of principle? There’s got to be a backlash against all this unnatural madness.
I don’t like crowds but every time I see a film or TV scene of a heaving bar or club I think to myself I want to be there, and do that. I don’t suppose I will get the chance.
I have not watched a football match since March last year including the FA cup final and the semi-final (former CFC fan) although I did try to watch the Madrid derby but the stream was poor.
BLM is the reason I will no longer watch any of this so to see them invoked again is I feel a further showing of contempt from those who wish to control these things and by virtue us.
My contempt for football fans is also growing especially after the furore over the ‘new’ league proposals. The fuss made about that while ignoring all of the recent shit show including the above means it is best I avoid such people. Another avenue of pleasure that closed off – to quote one Basil Fawlty.
Despite my best efforts to make the best of things every week delivers a fresh horror. I am really wondering what levels I would go if I thought i could stop all this. Best left …
Has there been definitive evidence of ONE “super spreader” event from an outdoor sporting event? If there is, I missed it. I’d note that pro and college teams aren’t the only teams that have played sports in the past 10 months. High school teams did as well, and I know for a fact that many of the high school football games in my state were filled with at least 50 percent fans, fans who were NOT socially distancing or even wearing masks. I have heard of no local outbreak after any of these many games.
Behavioural Scientists are certainly a socially challenged bunch. Most likely with restricted childhoods, parent issues, playground bullies, tittle tattles, needing a weekly therapy session.
Stamping? hilarious!
It reminds me of that Sumo wrestler who was considered a bit of a bad boy because he actually punched the air when he won a fight.
Ministers have accepted that testing before entry is likely to be required to make concerts, festivals and sporting fixtures safe even after all restrictions are lifted on June 21st.
All restrictions lifted? – testing! Doesn’t sound like it to me.
So to be clear, a class of people will be denied going to the theatre, going to the match and other things besides for an indefinite period of time? And quite a lot of people in some demographics (ethnic/religious minorities?). Can they really get away with this?
If the clubs go along with this, let them. Their revenues will never recover. They are already in a world of hurt – that’s why they wanted to create the Super League.
March 2020 one would not have expected people to put with so much shit for so long, but they did. Sadly I believe they will continue to do so.
14th March, 2020, a packed crowd of over 3,000 at a match in county Durham. How is it more dangerous now? Seriously?
Allegedly 14 cv deaths that Saturday. 7 announced today. Something strange happened to people in the past year, yes indeedy. The psychologists of the future will have a field day analysing all this.
Does it really say that they want hugs and handshakes to be monitored by CCTV, or do I need to get my eyes tested? Or are these people totally barking mad?
Barking mad
“Right, you high fived someone outside of your bubble after that goal. Don’t try and deny it, I saw you. I must ask you to leave the stadium”.
Speaking of Barking, why was it safer to watch sport there than in Lancashire?
Be like BLM. Smash statues. Destroy property. Act like 1980s football fans.
A little titbit of statistics.
There were 7 recorded deaths in the UK ‘with’ covid today. Which everyone will celebrate as so very small etc etc , must be the vaccines etc.
Well its TWICE the rate of death per head of population as recorded today in INDIA! ( 80 )
Doubt you will read it expressed like that in the MSM. ‘Cases’ in India were also about half of UK rate per head of population.
If anyone hasn’t read it , I link the english chapter pdf ( second one down) , of Bhakdi’s book ‘Corona unmasked’ . Warning for anyone of a nervous disposition or who has just been vaccinated, best not read without stiff drink.
https://www.goldegg-verlag.com/titel/corona-unmasked/
Thanks for that. Very disturbing…
Forget the BLM movement. The government should learn from the massive march for freedom which took place in central London last Saturday. No social distancing, no masks, no hand sanitiser but plenty of shouting, singing, laughing, handshakes and hugs, Humanity in action.
“Forget the BLM movement.”
Or don’t necessarily ‘forget’ it – just don’t get diverted by it and get it out of proportion.
I’ve had far more success showing up the hypocrisy of the BLM movement by simply highlighting their actual beliefs than I have showing the real situation over Covid.
It’s a misdirection.
I can imagine fans at certain clubs not going along with this. I’m a regular at one of these clubs and i’m wondering if they would try and sanction clubs whose supporters push back and sing and chant, maybe celebrate the odd goal? I can hear the tannoy blurting out warnings to crowd already !
I’ve not watched footy for a year now as I didn’t think i’d ever be allowed back in a stadium again since I was never going to take a vaccine or be swabbed like a lab rat.
The fact this commie dropped in BLM as a role model says it all really. I’m just amazed they didn’t suggest jazz hands !!!!!!
There have already been clubs sanctioned after breaches of social distancing, as I recall. Remember the televised FA cup match where they were putting messages over the tannoy for people to obey the rules? (Maybe clubs should follow the example of Marine and create some “gardens” overlooking the pitch where people could do what they want)
“A member of SAGE has suggested that the Government should learn from the Black Lives Matter movement in how to……”
Desecrate our heritage and monuments and play the victim.
Because that’s the only thing the BLM could teach anyone.
I fixed the opening line..
A member of the public has suggested that Sage and the Government should all be held at the Tower and tried for treason.
When this is all over, the one field of science that will have been damaged more than anything else is Behavioural Psychologist.
People will see it as a worthless and incredibly dangerous manipulation technique.
I think you’re right – it’s a case of scientific abuse dominating worthwhile research.
I’m sure a lot of decent social and clinical psychologists will be appalled.
I do wonder whether we react too much to sociopathic nutters like this, and similarly jump too predictably at the fakery of the virtue-signalling BLM stuff.
Remember the way of dealing with attention-seeking kids? Don’t give them attention.
I take your point.
I don’t think these proposals will gain much traction, but as I posted earlier I think they serve to reinforce the idea that some kind of restrictions and “new normal” are necessary and inevitable.
Yes, Julian – it’s a difficult balance getting the reaction right in the face of the wall of propaganda that is being generated.
And indeed, the oldest trick in the political book is to propose something totally outrageous and then back-peddle to something that is just ‘outrageous’ to get it accepted.
In my experience, the major problem is simply breaking through the blithe acceptance of any old crap that is fed to the public, and the fact that the large majority think that the members of SAGE are engaged in ‘science’. I run across gullible belief every day.
They tried to stop loud swearing on the terraces some years ago, how did that go ?
I’m completely at a loss about what BLM have to do with it and what example of theirs we might be expected to follow.
Well, Texas Rangers had their opener on April 6th with a packed 34,000 crowd attendance. They have also lifted all their restrictions (including mask wearing) since March 2nd. They have also a wide spread of the so-called British variant. You would expect a “surge” or something of the like, right? The answer is that nothing has really happened. Nothing. Britain has been the epicenter of covid misinformation and propaganda. We (by “we” i mean European countries) did lockdown only after Imperial’s false model for 500,000 deaths etc. Since then all type of scientific rubbish has emerged. Please, live your myth but not spread it out.
I don’t think it can be said that it is anybody on this website’s myth. Imperial college pseudo scientists don’t speak for me just because they happen to be based in the same country as me.
If you remember, there was the ‘bodies in the streets’ scenario after beaches got crowded last year in the UK.
BLM’s vision for fans at these events sounds like a real riot!… See what i did there?
Professor Dame Theresa Marteau and her colleagues at SAGE want to destroy our culture and ways of life. The new abnormal needs to be resisted at all costs.