Government Abandons NHSX Contact-Tracing App

According to the Mail, the Telegraph, the Guardian, etc., Matt Hancock has finally given up trying to roll out the NHSX contact-tracing app. Instead, the Government will rely on the method that’s been developed by Apple and Google and is already in use in most major European countries. I asked our correspondent, who’s been following this slow-motion car crash since the beginning, to give us his take on this U-turn.
It was over six weeks ago that this site asked, “If the app is being developed by the NHS, will it actually work?” This week we got our told-you-so moment as the Minister for Innovation, Lord Bethell, told the Science and Technology Committee that he was unable to give a date for the launch, admitting: “I won’t hide from you that there are technical challenges with getting the app right.”
Once the mainstay of the Government’s response to COVID-19, with Matt Hancock announcing a June 1st launch in England, the NHSX contact-tracing app is now a festering embarrassment. Lord Bethell blamed the virus itself for not sticking around long enough for a Government-managed IT project to deliver. Apparently, the relatively low prevalence of the virus means “we’re not feeling under great time pressure”. He also blamed the public, which is supposed to be afraid of the virus not the app, saying the public were highly concerned about privacy issues and such-like and this was one reason an app had not been “rushed” out. (Lol.)
So well done to NHSX’s two lead managers, Matthew Gould and Geraint Lewis, who will now be “stepping back”. Job done!
To be fair to the UK Government, they are not the only ones making a mess of delivering a Covid-tracing app. Norway, which I pointed out on May 4th was already in difficulty with its app, has had to delete all the data it’s collected so far. The Norwegian Data Protection Authority ruled the Smittestopp app represented a disproportionate intrusion into users’ privacy. Like the UK Government, Norway shunned the Apple/Google privacy-respecting approach, but is now having second thoughts and could be joining Switzerland, Ireland, Germany, Italy, Latvia et al in using the decentralised approach. Further afield, a bug in the latest version of Australia’s app means many iPhones have failed to log matches.
If the software wasn’t enough of a problem, researchers from Trinity College Dublin have found that the physics isn’t even being cooperative. All the apps depend on Bluetooth Low Energy radio technology and the understanding that the further away you are from a radio transmitter, the weaker the received signal; inverse square law and all that. So measuring signal strength should be a way to determine proximity to another phone. Great in theory, but in practice the signal can be disrupted by the bag that it’s in, or the person holding the phone, or even where you happen to be. One test in a railway carriage found the signal strength increasing as the separation went beyond two meters because of the way the metallic body of the carriage funnels the signal. In a supermarket, the signal strength could not be used to distinguish between a separation of two metres or less.
Let’s hope they don’t waste any more money on it.
So a Government-managed IT project has failed to deliver and ministers have turned to the private sector for a solution? Who would have thunk it?
File this one under “dog bites man”.
Back in the USSR
There was a funny story in the MailOnline yesterday.
A mix-up on the Government’s new online quarantine form has given the option for travellers entering the UK to declare themselves as being from countries which no longer exist.
Those filling it out on the Home Office’s website were able to claim they were from places such as Czechoslovakia and the USSR – both of which have not existed for almost three decades.
Other options included on the drop-down list were the German Democratic Republic, known as East Germany, which was reunified with West Germany in 1990, Upper Volta, which is now the West African country of Burkina Faso and Southern Rhodesia, which is now part of Zimbabwe.
From Our Welsh Correspondent

Yesterday, I published an email from a reader about the absurdities of trying to view a house in Wales under the present restrictions. But his encounter with the English estate agent ended up being quite pleasant:
Turned out the estate agent who showed us around was a lockdown sceptic! He’s refused furlough, and been working through the lockdown selling houses. We were swapping anti-lockdown stats and facts. (He was impressed when I told him that people under the age of 19 are more likely to perish from trouser-related accidents than COVID-19). And we rounded off a pleasant encounter by bemoaning the fact that our British Bulldog spirit has been usurped by “bloody snowflakes”.
Also, he was chatting to us from about two feet away, and told us we could ignore the “glove-wearing rule”.
Oh, and the house was next to a golf course, open now at last, and about eight golfing old-timers were congregating at the picnic tables near the clubhouse, flouting every law in the Corona-rulebook, regardless of their “vulnerable” status.
At last, some sanity!
Round-Up
And on to the round-up of all the stories I’ve noticed, or which have been been brought to my attention, in the last 24 hours:
- ‘Have the protests proved that Covid-19 risks are being vastly exaggerated?’ – Good piece by Dr Chris von Csefalvay making the same point I did yesterday about the fact that the protests haven’t caused an uptick in infections
- ‘Google tries to censor content it disagrees with‘ – Tucker Carlson on Google’s power to shut down dissent
- ‘Facebook using “fact-checkers” to censor dissent on COVID-19‘ – Good piece in Off-Guardian about Facebook censorship
- ‘Peter Hitchens on the Today programme‘ – Go to the two hour 50 minute point to hear Peter Hitchens talk about how he came to be followed by a mob through the streets of Oxford on Tuesday
- ‘Researchers question policy of closing schools after finding under 20s have low susceptibility to virus‘ – Article in the BMJ about a paper in Nature Medicine that finds people under 20 are half as susceptible to COVID-19 and far less likely to experience clinical symptoms than older age groups: “The results suggest that interventions targeting children, such as school closures, are therefore likely to have limited impact in controlling spreads of COVID-19.”
- ‘Third of English hospital trusts report NO coronavirus patients in past week‘ – Story in the Mail about the disappearance of the virus
- ‘Britain’s “scientific” Covid response is locked in a dangerous lie‘ – Latest column from Sherelle Jacobs in the Telegraph
- ‘Inside Seattle’s Lawless, Self-Declared “Autonomous Zone”‘ – A journalist reports from inside CHAZ. I’m looking forward to the Hollywood comedy in which Sacha Baron-Cohen plays the rapper warlord. Except no Hollywood studio would dare criticise Woke-us Dei and Baron-Cohen is surely going to be cancelled any day now
- ‘After Aunt Jemima, people call to cancel Uncle Ben’s and Mrs. Butterworth’s‘ – First they came for the statues… and now they’re coming for… rice?
- ‘They can’t cancel all of us‘ – Wilfred Reilly in Spiked on how we can fight back against the purges
- ‘What Covid Models Get Wrong‘ – The Wall St Journal‘s editorial board with a reality check for the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation which has issued a new forecast predicting that COVID-19 fatalities will spike over the summer
- ‘Ditch the two-metre rule and reopen all schools in England before the summer holidays‘ – Robust editorial in the Telegraph
- ‘Prince Charles: “We must prevent this crisis from defining the prospects of a generation”‘ – And Prince Charles agrees with the Telegraph
Theme Tune Suggestions From Readers
Three suggestions for theme tunes for this site from readers today: “Patience” by Guns N’ Roses, “Isolation” by John Lennon and “Virtual Insanity” by Jamiroquai.
Small Businesses That Have Reopened
A few weeks ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have reopened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you. Now that non-essential shops have reopened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet.
Shameless Begging Bit
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And Finally…

A friend of mine – Aidan Hartley – is the Chairman of a new private testing company called Pyser Testing that’s set up shop in the Honourable Artillery Company in the City and I went and got tested on Tuesday. For £48, you can get a pretty reliable antibody test. The tests are administered by ex-Army medics and you get the results back in 10-15 minutes.
For testing experts, it’s a lateral flow rapid antibody test manufactured by CTK Biotech. It hasn’t been officially endorsed by Public Health England, which, to date, has only endorsed the Roche and Abbott antibody tests, but it has been licensed for sale in the UK by MHRA. The same test at a private clinic in Harley Street would cost upwards of £150 and it’s cheaper than the one that was on sale at Superdrug but which has now been withdrawn. You can also get an Abbott test – the gold standard, according to Aidan – but that costs £96 and you have to wait three or four days for the results. All fees are inclusive of VAT.
If you want to book a test, you can do so online here. The plan is to roll it out across the country in due course.
I’ve written about the experience in this week’s Spectator. The stakes were quite high for me, and not just because I wanted to know whether I really had COVID-19, as I think I did back in March. My column begins:
Back in April, the Spectator ran a feature in which the partners of regular contributors wrote about what it was like being stuck in quarantine with the likes of us. What Caroline had to say was not very flattering: “Toby spent the first week of lockdown in bed convinced he had coronavirus. He didn’t. He is a complete hypochondriac at the best of times and this pandemic has sent his anxiety levels through the roof. He was so worried about catching it that the stress led to a bout of shingles, which is what actually laid him up.” Ever since then I have been trying to prove to her that I really did have COVID-19, but without success.
But this is a tale that ends happily, at least for me.
On my way back to the Tube I called Caroline. “Looks like you’re going to be eating humble pie this evening,” I said. She couldn’t believe it. But, sure enough, I’d tested positive for immunoglobulin G. Turns out it wasn’t man flu after all.
“I’m a vegetarian,” she objected.
“Don’t worry,” I said. “There’s no meat in humble pie. It’s full of things that are really good for you.”


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Quick computer translation of Dutch state tv/radio news article on Dutch citizens who have signed a petition against the “corona emergency law”. Just like in the UK the Dutch government doesn’t want to admit it panicked and enacted the stupidest policy in peace time, so it goes on creating new rules/regulations as if it was all a good idea from the beginning.
More than a quarter of a million signatories for a petition against the corona emergency law
A growing group of citizens is concerned about the cabinet’s corona emergency law. The petition ‘No to the emergency law’ has been digitally signed more than 250,000 times since the beginning of this month. The initiators want to hand over the petition to the Chamber Committee for Justice and Security next Tuesday.
The Coronas Emergency Act must replace the many emergency ordinances that exist today. The emergency ordinances can continue to enforce corona measures, but those regulations are creating an administrative chaotic situation, and they will expire soon.
Many organizations and institutions have already criticized the bill in recent weeks. The signatories of the petition are also very critical of the proposed law, which they believe is undemocratic.… Read more »
Spot on. The default zombie position us that everybody is infected except themselves.
Thought for the day (and I have had a few glasses of Claret) –
If we could get some negative energy and I could build some form of time machine or wormhole into the past, which Prime Minister or Sovereign to lead the country through this chaos? Or a dream cabinet?
In my view, we would have to get Mrs T, much as that pains me…..
David Lloyd George, against conventional opinion, was a great critic of the senseless mass- slaughter frontal assaults favoured by Douglas Haig in WW1 and probably saved hundreds of thousands of young men’s lives once he got his hands on power be exerting a restraining influence.
Sounds like a good man for the job of stopping the madness of lockdown misery with its millions of collateral casualities.
be = by
Good call! Incidentally, Welsh speaker, as am I.
There’s a big flaw in that plan. It’ll come to me in a minute…
Wellington. Allegedly good at putting the boot in …
Of all the MSM TV journalists I would say that Deborah Cohen has been one of the few who has actually produced some non-hysterical science-based reports – and on Newsnight as well! Tonight she is debunking the science claims of the 2M distance. The Lancet seems to have published some bad science. They have a long history of this.
Anyway, it’s clear the tide has turned on the 2 metre social distancing rule and no one is now going to back it.
A small victory but one which will encourage millions to consider whether other Government policies based on “following the science” are equally suspect.
I do wonder how serious a journal one would regard Lancet as these days, I got the impression it was a more of a political rag for medical doctors as opposed to series scientists, either basic or clinical. It is supposed to be peer reviewed, Ferguson likes to publish in there…..
Of course, but the BBC are happy to quote it in reverent tones when it suits them.
Agreed – there are far better journals out there but then they wouldn’t know that…..!!
Good article from Spiked:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/06/19/its-time-to-reopen-the-toilets/
I tried to start a petition to get loos reopened, but it vanished without trace, Pity.
Apple won’t stand for any “hybrid” version and to get anything onto an iPhone (well, without jailbreaking it which most folks won’t know how to do) it has to come via their App Store. It did rather amuse me when Hancock was proudly spouting about an agreement to work with Apple and Google, and then Apple announced that they haven’t heard a peep out of the U.K. government at all! I did to believe Apple more than I do the U.K. government . . .
There have been 3 famous person deaths reported by the media over the last few days, and covid wasn’t mentioned once. Maybe pressure from the families, or maybe the new message. Is project fear coming to an end?
The lie would be too blatant even for them?
Vera Lynn – who were the other two?
The snooker fella Thorn, and Bilbo baggins
Is this “Sir David King” really so stupid that he thinks the appropriate level of alert is one described as where there is “a high or rising level of transmission”, or is just lying?
I suppose he could be speaking English as a second language and just be misunderstanding terms like “high” and “rising”. but he would probably have to be profoundly stupid to be doping that as well.
What exactly are we handing out knighthoods for these days?
‘Very strange decision’ to lower UK’s alert system
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-53103438
“Earlier, the UK’s chief medical advisers downgraded the country’s alert level from four to three. (You can read more on what that means here).
But Sir David King – who chairs an independent group of scientists to rival the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) – has said lowering the level was “a very strange decision to make at this point in time”.
He told Channel 4 News: “The message that goes across when we reduce from four to three in this way is we seem to be winning the battle but the number of cases per day is still very high for the… Read more »
“The government has repeatedly said its response to the pandemic would be led by scientific advice and evidence.”
It is, just not his.
We need EBSAGE to be created – a non political evidence based science advisory group
He is pushing an agenda. He was CSA during the Blair years, at the time when the ICL model was rolled out in the Foot & Mouth fiasco. Need I say more?
I had such high hopes for Independent SAGE when they first announced its creation. But nope, it’s just an even more extreme version of normal SAGE…
They are nearly all Marxists as far as I recall from Guido’s excellent analysis a while ago
*Small* positive – possibly – is that Mason Mills has posted this evening with frustration re Sadiq Khan and the situation in London…. wonder if action might be on the way?
You know the way media types at the BBC, Sky and ITV like to “make connections”. Wasn’t it odd that none of them made the connection between Vera Lynn’s passing and what she might have sadly witnessed in her last few weeks: a nation gripped by fear, locked in their homes as if by an occupying power, a statue of Winston Churchill being defaced by Far Left Fascist thugs, and the Cenotaph being defiled, with a Far Left Fascist thug setting light to the Union flag.
Just heard there will be clapping for Dame Vera Lynn.
Don’t know where, don’t know when.
Sky News made it sound like she had been a leading member of Antifa – “the voice of a generation that defeated fascism and established the NHS”! So you never know, she might be so honoured, N Korean style.
This is OUTRAGEOUS! More and more of what UK column have been saying is proving true (unfortunately..)
Sorry – I missed who posted the link to the Atlantic article “pay attention to the shutdown skeptics” and the posts are too busy now to find it again.
I have two problems with it:
– the first is that it continues the assumption that Covid 19 is in itself bad enough that should have to concentrate all of our efforts on fighting it, absent a vaccine or a cure
– the second is: “ These facts may not be evident from the least thoughtful proponents of reopening, many of whom advance arguments that are uninformed, dismissive of experts, or callous. But the warnings of thoughtful shutdown skeptics warrant careful study, not stigma rooted in the false pretense that they don’t have any plausible concerns or value human life.” Show me, please a thoughtful, evidence based argument for lockdown? Until you can, you cannot criticise a sceptic for not being “thoughtful”.
You mean this link by Tom Blackburn?https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/take-shutdown-skeptics-seriously/611419/
“<Ctrl> F” will let you search for stuff. Doesn’t matter how big the comments section gets. As long they’re all loaded it’ll find it.
This Sunday there was supposed to be a demonstration against Dutch corona policies. However, the mayor decided to forbid the demonstration. The organizers went to court, which upheld the ban, no demonstration therefore. So much for the idea that we still had constitutional rights in the Netherlands…
Here is a quick computer translation of an article by the NOS, in a way the Dutch BBC:
Judge maintains ban on corona protest Malieveld
The corona protest that was announced on Sunday at the Malieveld in The Hague should indeed not go ahead. The judge maintains the ban that the Haaglanden Security Region issued earlier today. The “Virus Madness” group had filed for summary proceedings.
The security region had banned the demonstration because it would endanger public health. The number of participants had risen to 10,000 after calls on social media and other protest organizations.
The judge agrees that it is not possible to keep a safe distance with so many people on the Malieveld and that this entails risks of spreading the corona-virus.
According to press judge Marjolijn Kramer, this mainly concerns the structure of the demonstration. “It’s a lot like an event and events are now banned,” she says:
(SEE VIDEO IN ORIGINAL… Read more »
This is worrying – government stifling dissent sounds like a coup to me..
The New Freedom:
Liberty suppressed on grounds of safety.
Protest against said suppression of liberty forbidden … on grounds of safety.
So the famously tolerant Netherlands won’t tolerate Covid dissent.
Put their bosses in the bin along with our own.
This could get them sued by Google/Apple. Possibly the only time in history I’m gonna be thoroughly on the side of the tech giants.
Vernon Coleman at his best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5zZwQW-wZU
Just trust me.
Multi-media at its most sophisticated.
Haha – I won’t be getting ‘stuffed’ either 😉 !!!
Great stuff! 😂
I know that most of us don’t feel like singing at the moment, but … Swing low, sweet chariot…” – it’s such a beautiful song!
When I saw that there was talk of rugby fans not being allowed to sing it I thought that it must be deemed racist … but apparently it’s an African-American spiritual.
I’m sure there must be a joke in this somewhere, if only I could think of it …
Apparently it’s cultural appropriation. But a black choir singing Bach isn’t, probably. It’s very sad indeed.
It was potentially racist because it was thought to have started with Chris Oti, who’s black, scored a try but it actually started with Martin Ofiah who’s nickname was Chariots Ofiah, hence Swing Low Sweet Chariot. Not sure why singing a song written by a black slave would be deemed racist anyway. If promoting black music is racist then the MOBOs should be banned.
I listened to the Martin Ofiah interview on Sky earlier where he discussed this. However, I think the song’s association with rugby – especially at Twickenham – predates his playing days. I recall various work colleagues who were avid England rugby fans singing it at a training programme offsite (drinking games!) back in 1987. Is this correct?
On the subject of singing, more madness – the government want to ban singing from musicals when theatres re-open – WTF???? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8439675/Government-wants-ban-SINGING-musicals-return-West-End-says-Lord-Lloyd-Webber.html
Of course: plenty of people enjoy such musicals – a ban is the only solution!
Oh, tell them to go and stick their stupid faces in a faecal plume.
More examples that we are led by idiots!
Good grief!!!
Ripped down four Covinotices today: three demanding s.d. and one ‘footpath closed’. Judging by the footprints on the path, this last had been steadily ignored for weeks, but still fun ripping it down. The other rude, nasty ones were on sticky- backed plastic and just peeled off. Rather fun, like transfers. Anybody else remember those? Mine always smudged.
Notices wrapped round dogshit and binned.
Feel good.
Excellent. Please keep the updates coming.
A load of bullshit wrapped up in dogshit. There is something very poetic in that!
Ooops, got that the wrong way round.
Yeah, Frank Spencer impersonator – got to love him (not).
Interesting data for Scotland:
https://news.stv.tv/scotland/in-numbers-how-coronavirus-is-taking-its-toll-on-scotland?top
Not a great deal of difference when compared to Sweden. Main difference being we have the all the extras that come with a lockdown.
Swedish data can be found here for comparison:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa
Couple of things I noticed.
So why all the fear of case numbers rising? Aiming for eradication is not managing the virus it’s wishing the problem away.
Not ‘cases’. Positive test results.Cases require medical intervention, they’re skewing the figures as usual.
As noted previously, Sweden case numbers are reflecting significant increase in testing.
Looking I think sweden are on the downward curve well done to them
Great post.
I appreciate the fact that some people refuse to participate in this idea of “new normal” and are living their lives now the way they did before the lockdowns. A month ago my family and I went on a week-long vacation to a beach in Alabama. In my entire life I have never been so happy to see other people–the people at the beaches, in the restaurants, on scooters and bicycles in the streets, in parks…
And all of this, with no masks or hysteria about COVID-19 anywhere in sight. It was like a dream. I’m an extreme introvert, but my finally re-entering public after being locked down for two months made me realize how much I missed the “old normal.” Boy, was it good to see people again!
Keep your heads up, lads–lockdown skeptics such as the epidemiologist/statistician John Ioannidis at Stanford have been working hard to undo the harm that entities like Neil Ferguson and the mainstream media have done to this world. We should all do our part to continue reversing the hysteria!
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/take-shutdown-skeptics-seriously/611419/
Good grief!
Matthew Gould, CEO of NHSX, I am sure he is a nice chap. MA in Divinity from Cambridge, and 13 years at the Foreign Office. A specialist (I kid you not) in “The frequency of termite (Isoptera) damage to tree species in Namakutwa Forest, Tanzania”
How on earth did such a person become head of an organisation for “digital transformation”? It is exactly the problem. A lack of understanding and respect for proper IT skills, and a sublimely arrogant belief that brainpower and general knowledge is a substitute for knowledge and skill.
Astonishingly, they also have a: CEO of Digital; a Head of Strategy; a Chief Digital Officer; and a Chief Technology Officer. That is more senior executives talking about it than the size of the team actually doing it!!
Meh. In my experience, the worst person to run an IT department is an IT specialist. What you want is an experienced manager who can coordinate a team, understands their own limitations and has a group of immediate reports who are also good managers, but have specific technical skills. Honestly, depending on the number of people working in the organisation, what you describe could well be about right (and depending on who the CEO of Digital, HO Strategy, CDO and CTO are).
‘How on earth did such a person become head of an organisation for “digital transformation”? ‘ – I would guess he has some ‘friends’ in high places!
Ask Harriet Harman …
I am the lowliest of (thoroughly unqualified ;p ) IT workers and even I’m more qualified than this guy.
Soaks her mask in TCP ? !,that’s really high on the coronphobic madness scale,I bet it smells lovely for ages after she’s left !.
Intolerance of dissent:
Katie Hopkins permanently suspended by Twitter for breaking ‘abuse and hate’ rules
Long past time there were significant conservative run free speech alternatives to the leftist censors of Twitter, Facebook and the like, promoted by mainstream conservatives and to explicitly allow all political opinion no matter how “extreme”, provided it falls within US First Amendment rules. It would have to be run from the US because speech is not free in law, in the EU and UK.
Mainstream conservatives need to be strong on this and stand on the principle that “sharing a platform” does not mean endorsing another’s opinion, because otherwise they are merely recreating the situation that led us to where we are now. When you exclude opinions more extreme than your own, you become the remaining extremist.
“Long past time there were significant conservative run free speech alternatives to the leftist censors of Twitter, Facebook and the like”
Yes, we need some billionaires who don’t care who they upset. Elon Musk?
Conservative?
It would need to be someone of that level of wealth, though, because it would be difficult to get established early on, and it would also have to be someone with a very strong personal and long term commitment to freedom of speech. The pressures from identity lobbyist groups to censor racist, anti-semitic, homophobic etc etc opinion would be colossal, and would ultimately include denying basic internet access and banking services, as we have seen done in the past.
Tbh I’m not sure it can even be done at all, I suspect we might have “progressed” beyond freedom of speech, globally.
Maybe he’s more of a libertarian than a conservative. Given where we are now, I’d take that.
But probably too late, yes.
A hard line, genuine libertarian, yes, that would be fine. A lot of self-described “libertarians” are just modern pseudo-liberals.
I’m very sorry to hear that. I’ve taken a break from the news this week so I wasn’t aware.
I’d only recently started reading her twitter page. I couldn’t fault her really. And I’m not sure I’d even call myself a conservative.
I seem to recall that she recently described herself (on twitter) as a white Christian conservative.
The hate seems to come from her detractors. I noticed that many of her twitter critics seemed to enjoy posting replies which referring to her by female body parts and other such obscenities. She seemed to take it all with good grace.
What was her thought crime? My guess is that it might have been for asking the leftist mob too many awkward questions.
She’s a serial offender as far as the “woke” are concerned. She just refuses to comply with modern limits to freedom of opinion. Not sure what the latest pretext was.
Tbh I’ve never been a follower and usually only hear of her when she is the target of a baying leftist mob for some new “outrage”. I did see her on this show a few months back:
Freedom of speech ‘no longer exists’ in Australia and the UK: Katie Hopkins
And I did see her reported as saying this a few weeks back, which seemed pretty reasonable to me:
“”A quick message to the doctors and nurses who are putting on co-ordinated dance routines for TikTok and other social media platforms: Please could you bloody well stop it?
“Could you just stop pratting about in wards, in hospitals, in full PPE and just focus on trying to be a professional?”
“Number one, your dancing about doesn’t really help us. We see that you’re having a lovely time at work and we respect the fact that you’ve still gone to work, but frankly, at this point many of us would like to go back to work in order… Read more »
Well. That’s appalling. How dare she? I’m surprised she hasn’t been put up against the wall and shot, let alone banned from Twitter.
Yes, well I didn’t pay her much attention either until the lockdown, but she’s another very strong critic of it.
She often used the #coronabollocks handle, which I thought was quite good.
She even put on a mask as a disguise to film some of the woke mob in action at the BLM protest. I thought that was quite brave of her given some of the nasty abuse she used to get on twitter.
She’s got more balls than Johnson, for sure.
I think many women do!
Completely fair comments!!
She may have been confrontational, but her piece to camera the other day regarding the free school meals issue was very calm and balanced – quite a measured tone compared to some of her videos..
I think one of her biggest problems is that she does not conform to how a woman is supposed to think, speak, and behave – as judged by many other women. This makes it all too easy for ‘soy-boy’ men, who let’s face it are in charge of too many things in life now, including social media platforms, to silence.
She’s definitely a remarkable character. On some issues she’s further out than I am, but in part that’s why I feel the need to defend her. Once she’s gone, I’m next in line, and I’m not alone in being in that position. That’s why we should all defend the speech rights and opportunities of those more “extreme” than ourselves.
She’s no shrinking violet, for sure. On the Sky Australia show I linked above, she was asked about her experiences as a result of speaking out in the modern “woke” west, and she prefaced her response with the following:
“I accept everything that comes my way… I put myself out here, I have to suck it up. If I don’t like it, then I can go home, I can sit on my sofa and I can be quiet.”
Her account should be read by anyone who thinks we have freedom of speech in this country. Mind, the views she has been expressing are nothing like real race hatred or supremacism (which in themselves are anyway legitimate political opinions provided they don’t call directly for violent action), nor are they calls to violence. She has suffered all this for… Read more »
She is a strong woman, she also has epilepsy and has undergone operations to try and cure it, which she has spoken in some detail about..
There are no women any more. Or men either.
Just got a survey from Fort Nelson (excellent military museum in Portsmouth) about what safety measures would make me ‘feel comfortable’ about re-visiting. No prizes for guessing my answers. But one question was ‘Do you identify as 1 male 2 female 3 don’t know 4 prefer not to say.’
No space allowed for replying ‘I AM a bloody woman, you moronic twat.’
That might get you arrested these days as a hate crime! What I find very disconcerting is other women going along with the deeply misogynist trans lobby that seeks to invade female spaces and silence female voices.
The fact this pathetic government is doing nothing to protect our freedom or liberty against the constant attack from Marxists proves something doesn’t it? They approve of it!!
They think if real conservatives are excluded from acceptability, we’ll have no choice but to keep voting for pathetic soft leftists like the current cabinet.
Now the likes of Primark are
welcoming our money, sorry welcoming us back, though we would take a stroll round town tomorrow.We have our own PPE as you can see.
Nothing can stop us now.
Excellent.
Another possibility: dust masks, designed to let through everything except dust, and then let you breathe out all the junk you just breathed in ( except the dust), plus anything else you may be harbouring in the virus line.
But they didn’t specify what sort of mask, did they?
Apparently we have moved to stage 3 – what’s that all about then? 🤨
2nd wave imminent 😉
What? Again? – talk about crying wolf!
Yep. All of the protesters will super spread the virus that was saved up from VE Day and the bank holiday weekend. Sorry
I think it means that if you develop a new continuous sense of humour, especially a dry sense of humour, you MUST report yourself to the authorities immediately for reconditioning.
Ohwww
Means the government is now only about two months behind reality. Better than the opposition, the unions and the media, but not by much and with less excuse.
Couldn’t agree more, we were at Nando’s level 1 months ago.
It means the government are too thick to even follow their own schemes. It’s been obvious we’re at Level 2 for quite some time now. To even suggest we were still at Level 4 was so far removed from reality that I can’t quite believe they’ve got away with it for this long. No wonder the majority of the population are so scared if they still think it’s growing exponentially!
2 referees to the IQ of the cabinet
Sorry fookin spelling “autocorrect”and no edit
Should be preceded by a minus sign then.
They drop part of the rocket?
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/the-hydroxychloroquine-scandal
He is one of the most intellectually challenged ministers of not just this generation, but of any. Indeed, it is quite difficult to understand how he made it into parliament, let alone the Cabinet. Of course, he is in pretty good company when you look around both benches. The lunatics really are running the asylum.
I think there is something in that. Pretty much everyone who scales the upper echelons of the public sector and politics has one or more nasty little secrets. If you are ‘clean’, there are no levers to pull, so you are likely to be pushed aside. Consequently the ones who get to the top are usually less able, but more malleable.
“so you are likely to be pushed aside”
I’m sorry, I don’t agree with you – by whom?
Your comment seems from my reading of it to presuppose that there must be someone “clean” who is doing this pushing.
Politicians are all much of a muchness in my opinion. Good at self promotion and very little else.
I keep thinking of the film ‘Idiocracy’.
Funny you should say that. I have decided that my great epic about Lord Tony and his Sceptic Knights Overcoming the Forces of Evil should be couched in homeric hexameters and will complete the trilogy:
We’ve had the Iliad. And the Odyssey.
Now, the conclusion: The Idiocy.
So you got the flu in March…
And in response to this ‘flu’:
I have lost my job.
We will now lose our home because I cannot find work and housing benefits is capped at a figure that does not cover most private rents.
My children have missed their exams after years and years of school study.
They have also missed all that school entails – sport, community, events, trips, experiences, joy.
They are bereft, dispirited, lonely and voiceless.
The small business I worked for is closing down after 38 years trading as it can’t get back up off it’s knees.
The 37 employees are my age and older (45 – 65) and are out of work, some for the first time ever, and are bewildered and frightened.
I have used all my savings staying afloat.
As a family we are facing a frightening and poor future, with nothing in the bank and no certainty about the children’s own prospects in either education or work.
While you were sweating in bed and feeling rough, our lives were upended and smashed up. We have done absolutely nothing wrong and yet… Read more »
I left school in 1981 .often wonder he we would have reacted to this in the 1980 s no social media etc ,I think wed have coped a lot better any one agree?
Better, for sure. No social media, no 24 hour global news. No online shopping or internet, no working from home, 4 TV channels. I don’t think lockdown would have occurred to anyone and if it had it wouldn’t have lasted long.
Agreed
100% agree. As Julian says we only have the option of lockdown at all because of the internet allowing us to work at home and order things online. Shops would have had to stay open. People didn’t expect the government to solve everything back then either and they laughed at anything approaching health and safetyism (if it even existed). I think we would have barely noticed.
Yes you are so right people in their 40s then had lived through the war and experienced real fear.
With social media as well, I think everyone is so caught up in the importance of their own platform, their own narrative and story and how they are living through such “unprecedented times” that they can barely see past the end of their own noses let alone question anything they are being told.
I long for 1981 !
Yup. You could smoke in the pub.
I think it would have been completely impossible. With no social media, no internet and no video calling, nobody would have to,erased it for more than about two weeks. Which would have been good.
I’m so fucking angry at the glacial pace at which we are trying to escape the clutches of the SAGE gurus.
I think that the blonde bimbo in number 10 should have at least 5 laymen involved in their meetings to prick their egos and call out their idiocy.
Liz needs to get involved and tell Boris he ain’t cutting it.
I think whatever happens they are sticking to the same timeline,all aimed at getting to september without changing much,
That’s when the oxford vaccine if it works becomes available i could be wrong
But tracking app sep earliest ,schools etc just makes me wonder what there game is.
Hancock even said yesterday that over 50s will get it first. They must be confident.
Not that iam pro vaccinei just mythinking on the present situation
No vaccine for me thank you.
I agree with you. The reason for keeping this farce going can only be about the vaccine – BoJo has promised his mates in Big Pharma and the Gates Foundation that we will lead the way in this as a massive control experiment. I am over 50, and will be standing aside on the vaccine until all Cabinet ministers, their partners, children and parents have been given it!
All MPs and the civil service first thank you very much.
Followed by journalists and anyone who has had Common Purpose training.
The common purpose “graduates” are useful idiots and will lap up the vaccine happily. They don’t understand themselves what CP is. It gives them salaries way beyond what their limited ability deserves, but ultimately they are simply cogs in the machine. Still a good suggestion though.
Speaking for myself, I will not be participating in use of any vaccine that has had perhaps ten times less testing than is conventional. Conspiracy theory vaccine or not, the risks of side effects outweigh any puny covid risk.
Alas, there is no vaccine against stupidity.The gods contend un vain.
I won’t receiving the vaccine, I’m just over 50, they’ll have to taser me first.
I suspect that that will be arranged!
p.s. You and me both.
I’ll see how many I take down with me!
Apart from the fact that no vaccine has yet been developed for coronaviruses (e.g. common cold), it takes years to develop and safely test a vaccine. Flu vaccines are notoriously ‘hit-and-miss’ because viruses keep mutating.
Nonetheless, it seems that Astra Zeneca are ploughing ahead with making huge numbers of doses prior to the drug’s getting approval this autumm, ready to test on all those willing guinea-pigs. Well, I’m with Winston and Bella Donna. It will have to be by force in this 67-year-old’s case.
If you mean the queen, well, she has kept her head down for years and has never, ever, ever rocked the boat. She even came out of hiding in Balmoral to talk on the telly about Diana, who damaged the royal family beyond measure, not that they didn’t deserve it. The queen wants, and has had, a quiet life, one of enormous privilege and comfort, why should she do anything that might slightly discomfort her? Her great age lets her off, slightly.
Sigh … it’s not her place to tell the government what to do! (See my other comment).
Sigh….I didn’t say she should tell the government what to do but maybe she should make more of a stand for the British people…to be honest I don’t know what she could do, nothing, probably, so she does nothing and mouths platitudes on the telly.
Liz?
If you mean the Queen, it’s not her place. She’s only the (ceremonial) head of state.
It’s the PM’s job to run the country not to be her paid lackey. Ministers do not do the Queen’s bidding.