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Catching Omicron May Protect Against Delta

by Toby Young
30 December 2021 3:37 PM

Catching the Omicron variant of Covid may also help people fend off Delta, new research suggests. MailOnline has more.

Academics took blood samples from people struck down with the ultra-infectious variant and measured their antibody levels. They then looked at how well the virus-fighting proteins reacted to both Omicron and Delta.

Lab tests, conducted two weeks after patients joined the study, showed antibody levels spiked 14-fold in response to Omicron.

But there was also a 4.4-fold increase against Delta, according to the findings which took the researchers by surprise.

Other studies delving into the topic of cross-variant immunity showed antibodies made in response to Delta reacted poorly to Omicron.

Professor Alex Sigal, a virologist at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa who led the research, said it suggested Omicron could usher in the endemic phase of the pandemic.

He said: “The increase in neutralising immunity against Omicron was expected, that is the virus these individuals were infected with.

“However, we also saw that the same people – especially those who were vaccinated – developed enhanced immunity to the Delta variant.”

Professor Sigal added: “If, as it currently looks like from the South African experience, Omicron is less pathogenic, then this will help push Delta out.”

He said this was because it should “decrease the likelihood someone infected with Omicron will get re-infected with Delta”.

“If that is true, then the disruption Covid has caused in our lives may become less,” Professor Sigal continued.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: Three-quarters of people in the U.K. with Cold-like symptoms are likely to have Covid, according to a new Zoe Covid study. The Guardian has more.

Tags: DeltaOmicronSouth Africa

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

There are neither Delta, Omicron, nor Scientists.

Why are we still ‘jumping how high’ when a minor scholastic detail is floated?

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Woo-hoo this one’s unpopular!

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

They need to hold each other’s hands now. They are so unsure of their ground that they don’t dare to show their arguments and and only go about in groups.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I’ve fended off the Old Kung Flu with Hi Karate

Stand in the Park Sundays from 10am – make friends & keep sane 
Wokingham – Howard Palmer Gardens Cockpit Path car park Sturges Rd RG40 2HD  

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The 77th Brigade knives are out for those that know the Covid narrative is utter bullshit.You are clearly over the target.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

Hardly a surprise.

“If that is true, then the disruption Covid has caused in our lives may become less,” Professor Sigal continued.”

FFS! Covid has caused hardly any disruption. Almost all the costs and disruptions have been and are being caused by the absurd response to it!

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

These people are all democrats. This means they’re institutionally never responsible for anything.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Who’s the downticking twat?

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

I have several human fannies assaulting my excellent post, above.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Five of them if my reply is anything to go by….

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

They seem to be getting scared and only travel in large groups. Poor little namby -pambies.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago

“Three-quarters of people in the U.K. with Cold-like symptoms are likely to have Covid, according to a new Zoe Covid study”.

Or as we used to say in 2019, four-quarters of people in the UK with cold-like symptoms, have a cold!

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

This Zoe shit is getting really boring now.. as you say.. its a bloody cold FFS!!!!

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

The latest Beeb hysteria generation is a thing to behold.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

391 athletes have had cardiac arrests, blood clots, thrombosis, strokes, irregular heartbeats, arrhythmia and neuropathy. All after receiving the SARS‑CoV‑2 gene manipulating serums.

230 athletes have died after receiving the SARS‑CoV‑2 gene manipulating serums.

“391 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 230 Dead, After COVID Shot.”

Why are these tragic figures not being reported in the MSM? Perhaps because Bill Gates is on record as having given at least $319 million to media outlets?

“Revealed: Documents Show Bill Gates Has Given $319 Million to Media Outlets.”

So-called fact-checkers come forward and dispute these figures. But when asked to produce statistics from the pre-COVID-19 era that would show these numbers of deaths and injuries as being not abnormal, they make various excuses, but don’t produce the relevant statistics.

I wonder why?

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Indeed. This is a good link for historical comparison – https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing . Pre 2021 high of 12 I think, with an average ~9 (haven’t actually done the maths), 2021 big spike to 21 deaths. Nothing to see here of course!

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

The fact-checkers will click your link and immediately pounce on this: “The following is an incomplete list of association footballers who died while playing …”

Then they’ll set about editing this Wikipedia list to give the “correct” information.

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Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I told someone about this and they said they’d never heard about increases in deaths in young footballers so where was the evidence? They assumed I”d made it up… Seems a lots of people just don’t make connections.

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Black Flag
Black Flag
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

It’s not like the peaks correlate with v rollouts or anything…….

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Black Flag

Well, they also correlate with rollouts of covid.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

And the vaxx you fuckin odour

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

“ultra-infectious variant” Is it? I thought the government’s own figures suggested it was like delta.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

You don’t say.

In other news, some good ideas do come from China. China tell their footballers they must have their tattoos REMOVED ‘to set a good example for society

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yep, another slap your forehead moment; it’s red-raw now.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I think they have to be covered also 😉

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

And no hair dye or curls apparently in the women’s

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Reminds me of that story a few years back about extra large pink parking spaces for women in a Chinese car park…

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

If you think it’s government’s business to mandate what tattoos you may or may not wear, you must be a closet socialist after all. Probably more socialist that all the other socialists, actually.

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Ah but Chinese footballers don’t genuflect to some American Communist outfit called Black Lives Matter?
Strange that!

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

A mild dose of anything is better than an experimental jab which could potentially kill millions according to Professor Sucharit Bhakdi.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/bhakdiburkhardt-pathology-results

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Regardless of the ad nauseam repetition: The immune system still cannot prevent infection, that is, PCR positivitis. And the disruption in our lives was caused by the Professor Sigals of this planet and will end once they’re firmly shown the door.

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MDH
MDH
3 years ago

These reports are of little or no interest to long-term readers of the Sceptics. We have never been remotely worried about contracting the bloody thing, although I doubt any of us would have welcomed it in its earlier more potent form.

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James Kreis
James Kreis
3 years ago

Make Lemsip great again !

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cloud6
cloud6
3 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

Got my stocks ( for a £1 ) in from a well-known discount shop, don’t go to the main players they will rip you off…

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Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

Woke up yesterday with the traditional aching muscles, mainly in my legs, bit of a dull headache, slight temperature and a general feeling of being slightly unwell..

Started off with an ultra vitamin d tablet – a large glass of water with lemon slices – bit more vitamin c through apple and squeezed oranges – stayed on the sofa – falling asleep for maybe 2 hours – woke up – had a shower – got back into bed and started to watch a movie – about 3pm decided to take 2 ibuprofen – 40 mins later i genuinely felt better

Aches gone, no headache, energy returned, it was quite sudden in terms of feeling better..

Maybe a total of 6 hours, in terms of feeling unwell.

No issues today, out walking with the kids for 2 hours or so

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Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Samurai Jack

Now Patented and available under EUA

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago

And… yes… yet another study primarily funded by Bill n Melinda.
Is this shambles getting a bit embarrassing for Bill? Time for a way out, focus on the next reason the whole world needs injecting?

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

Like many other powerful men, he’s probably keeping a close eye on Ghislaine Maxwell’s response to the prosecution’s suggestion that she might name a few names in return for a more lenient sentence.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

For all normies that visit here and still believes that Bill Gates is a saintly pullover clad figure who has mankind’s best interests at heart, click this link, and on the video you are taken to skip forward to 04:21 where you will hear Gates’ say:

“First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent.”

In June 2011 The Sovereign Independent newspaper picked up on this and ran an article about it with the headline: 

“Depopulation Through Forced Vaccination: The Zero Carbon Solution.”

We are now actually experiencing forced “vaccination”. And Gates has very openly said they’d use “vaccinations” to reduce population numbers.

When are the leaders we need to fight these genocidal sociopaths going to show themselves?

Meanwhile, the world’s foremost military power has an imbecile in the White House that sputters out this: “Truinternatialdepressure”.

What has humanity done to bring devils like Gates & Co upon it? 

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“What has humanity done to bring devils like Gates & Co upon it?”

Evil prospers when good people stand by and let it happen and all that.

Last edited 3 years ago by mishmash
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TheApesOfWrath
TheApesOfWrath
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

You could put that on a huge screen, repeated on a loop with mega loud speakers, and the pro-jabbers would still bleat “bUt wHerE iS yOuR eViDeNcE???!!!! iT’S jUsT a CrAzY TiN-FoIL hAt CoNsPiRaCy tHeOrY!!!!!!”

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago
Reply to  TheApesOfWrath

that’s correct. It is a tin foil hat CoNsPiRaCy.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Clip from Gate’s deposition from 1998.

Look at his body language, the guy’s a splintered nut-job.

Last edited 3 years ago by mishmash
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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

He’s a 100% pure psychopath. A disgusting creature. 

Did you know that an ancestor of his was heavily involved with a “vaccination” which was administered to US soldiers in Fort Riley prior to them setting off to WW I in Europe?

What’s a fact is that the 1919 “Spanish Flu” began in the United States. Many believe that the “vaccine” given to the soldiers in Fort Riley was actually the origin of this so-called flu.

Bill Gates comes from a long line of people who are heavily inbred. They like to keep their blood pure. Heavy inbreeding is why they are so psychopathic. 

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

And his old man was head of Planned Parenthood the American Abortion Conglomerate.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Reminds me of that film “Cheaper By the Dozen” (1950) where someone from Planned Parenthood visits and eventually realises: “They’re all yours, don’t deny it”. The father replying “I wouldn’t dream of denying it”.

Last edited 3 years ago by Hugh
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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

All of the mega rich families inter marry

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

but you are a cretin, the virus did not exist until another 21 years had passed are you confused about he difference between a computer virus and a real virus?

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

You’ve had enough Buckfast for today. 

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
3 years ago

Having passed long queues at three testing places today, I can only assume that people are desperate for a positive result to avoid the mother in laws New Year Party, or to virtue signal that they are still ‘doing their bit’.

Can we please stop testing out of hospital, stop Track and Trace, and stop mandatory isolating. Please..?

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Of course not. That would blow the gaff.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

To be fair, the long queues for PCR testing have more to do with the current fetish for “strongly recommending” that people take LFTs before they’re allowed out of the house. Once the unreliable LFT has reported a supposedly positive result, people have little option other than to wait for a “gold standard” PCR tests to release them from quarantine, so that’s another couple of days wasted. (This is exactly the situation that’s preventing my local pub from providing a decent level of staff on New year’s Eve.)

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George L
George L
3 years ago

And in France..

The French State Council Quietly Voted the Vaccine Pass – No Longer Democracy but a Putsch..

The machine is not going to stop unless the people stop it..

https://www.europereloaded.com/the-french-state-council-quietly-voted-the-vaccine-pass/

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

One for TY & cock-up theorists to excuse, Do the new Pfizer and Merck pills have digital chips in them? Take note of the background.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

“Over in the UK, Britain’s NHS ‘is now on a war footing,’ one of its top medical officials warned on Thursday. He said they would start erecting field hospitals to absorb a feared surge in hospitalizations as cases continue to climb. In a statement, the service outlined plans for temporary wards in England, called ‘Nightingale hubs’ in response to the surge in omicron cases.” … in response to some people getting a cold.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/us-reports-record-500k-covid-cases-britain-erects-field-hospitals

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Ah yes; splendid follow-on from the earlier Nightingale hospitals!

By the way, does anyone know how that worked out?

Last edited 3 years ago by iane
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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

Beeb headlined today!

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martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
3 years ago

You mean, catching the cold will protect against the flu?

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago

It is instructive to understand that although the admissions are going up the total number in hospital is not.
Unlike death rate, admissions are instantantaneously reflected in the patient population then the only to facors also in the mix are discharges and deaths.
Deaths are also dropping so the only conclusion I can come to is that Omicron is not detaining people long in hospital.

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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

Did anyone think it wouldn’t?

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Dale
Dale
3 years ago

Toby still struggling with Long Delusion.

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Black Flag
Black Flag
3 years ago

Completely misses the effect of natural broad spectrum low affinity antibodies that recognise +20 different viral proteins. But I guess that would demonstrate the pointlessness of strain specific vaccination based on a single protein target.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

This is a sign of OAS, not cross immunity. (Original Antigenic Sin).

If you read the paper it is rather clear that infection with Omicron stimulates the immune system in the vaccinated to produce antibodies to the strain they were originally immunised against (a weird ‘disease’ that was entirely comprised of spike proteins for the Wuhan strain).

Those unvaccinated that were infected with Omicron produced relatively little levels of antibody protection against Delta.

Now, this might be considered ‘bad’ as it suggests that the unvaccinated have a poor protection against other variants. However, it probably isn’t as the immune response to natural infection is broad and isn’t focused merely on the antibody response to a single, highly mutable, part of the virus; it is likely that the immune response after natural infection actually offers a broad immunity against many variants.

The actual question that should be asked as a result of this work is:
Are the vaccinated now forming a broad immune response against Omicron, as well as producing antibodies against Delta.
Or is their immune system now biased towards making IgG antibodies (not used for upper respiratory tract infections) and is only going to form a weak response for other aspects of the immune system.

If it is the former of the above then Covid will soon become a mere ‘cold’ suffered every now and then. If it is the latter, then it is likely that covid will be hanging around at a much greater level as the vaccinated will form a disease reservoir and keep cases high — this would stop when the vaccinated get around to forming a broad immune response to the disease.

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JamesM
JamesM
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

The second of the two possibilities you mention requires urgent research. Is anybody looking into this? What we can say is that the results of several studies have clearly shown that immunity acquired through infection is superior to that acquired through vaccination.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  JamesM

No-one is looking. If anything, there’s suppression of any attempts to investigate any negative impact of the vaccines (it is all about funding).

On a separate note, I see that it is now 6 months since the end of the large and expensive Coronavit trial into the use of vitamin D as protection against covid — where are the results, Adrian Martineau?

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

This is why many unvaccinated are waiting until the trials are finished and the conclusions are in, bit much to push it before that.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

Interestingly (or predictably), the review of respiratory tract infections by the Centre for Evidence Based Medicine is (to my knowledge) never quoted anywhere in the MSM.

An incidence of 40 in 100,000, surveyed through GP practices is required in order to identify an ‘epidemic’.

Throughout the ‘pandemic’, this has never occurred (surprise,surprise), and the latest update states :

“The levels of suspected COVID-19 have not reached epidemic consultation levels and are dropping dramatically.”

Such is the measure of official dishonesty – get up on screen, Whitty, and quote that!

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Vallarta
Vallarta
3 years ago

According to Sucharit Bakhdi, immune systems are fighting an autoimmune battle. The lymph nodes along with other organs are creating the spike and in turn the T helper cells are attacking the body. According to him the only antibody to defend against a respiratory infection is Secretory IGa, the vaccine only creates IGg and Circulatory IGa, completely useless for any airborne virus. There is no such thing as a break through infection when the damn vaccines where never going to work in the first place!

Last edited 3 years ago by Vallarta
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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  Vallarta

It’s not a breakthrough infection.
It’s “vaccine” failure.
Can someone please educate the cretins etc. at the BBC.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Vallarta

The mRNA and vector-based Sars-CoV2 vaccines are infecting cells which then produce Sars-CoV2 spike proteins. This causes the immune system to kill the infected cells (among other things). That’s not an autoimmune reaction, because the immune system is not attacking healthy cells. It’s more an like infection with an artificial virus (for mRNA) which has been gene-engineered such that its first generation offspring is incapable of reproduction.

The vaccines were never capable of (and never meant to) preventing transmission, only serious disease caused by Sars-CoV2 escaping from the so-called upper respiratory tract and starting to infect other parts of the body. Any suggestions to the contrary (effiacy against infections) are lies the people in favour of Corona policies are circulating.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  Vallarta

We’ve had a chorus of ‘antibodies, antibodies, antibodies!!!’ for 12 months now. Any attempt to say ‘but the immune system is more complex than that’ has been ignored. It is a extraordinary situation.

We’re now getting the slightest glimmer that there might be more to our immune responses — but it is too late, they’ve already vaccinated nearly everyone in the western countries and about 60% of everyone in the world… with a novel medical product that has only been in existence for 18 months…

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

So catching a cold may protect against catching another cold again… mind boggles!

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago

Christ on a bike.
Basic immunology – could it be making a comeback!

Meanwhile, back in Clown World, can anyone enlighten me as to why the sheep aren’t dropping like flies after, gasp, testing positive for a cold?

Doctor, Doctor, ( of course assuming one could actually engage with said doctor), I think I’ve got covid – “Why,” – because there’s nothing wrong with me…

In the good old days, said doctor would have told you, politely, Fuck Off.

Last edited 3 years ago by Sforzesca
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watersider
watersider
3 years ago

Whoopee! Today I got a letter from HM Pensions dept telling me I qualify for an age related increase as I will turn 80 on Jan 18th
I am asking some kind people on here to advise me how best to spend the extra 25 pence a week. Yes that’s right – 25 p a week.
Any suggestions?
I was so overjoyed at Boriss largess that was inspired to write the following piece of doggerel.

VARIENTS

Do you just go with the Lateral Flow
And trust in the PCR
If you’re not I’ll you don’t need a pill
For your Mortis won’t be Rigor.

In days of old if you caught a cold
No one classed you as Unclean
You went to bed and covered your head
With no need for Quarantine.

Now the slightest whiff of a nasal sniff
Means you must master ancient Greek
You line up for a Test with all the rest

You’re a Case in Orwellian New Speak.

If you’ve gone along with the compliant throng

And believed a so-called expert
Had the latest Jab from some unknown lab
You’re a New World Order convert.

If you are still puzzled by those who are Muzzled

Knowing diseases pass through a Mask
Pity poor people herded like Sheeple
With never a question to ask.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

In days of old
When men were bold
And vaccines weren’t invented
They ate their tripe
Then had a shite
And went to bed contented

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

You can get a two-minute phone call for 25p. So, every week you could phone Boris Johnson and tell him he’s a narcissistic prick, and have the pleasure of knowing his government is paying for the call. 

And don’t worry about him suing you for defamation, because about 40 million people in the UK will give evidence that he really is a narcissistic prick.

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watersider
watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

A senior moment there – missed the last verse:

If you’re desirous of avoiding this virus
This Gene Altering Jabbing won’t do
You can still pass it on its an Omi Con
A biological gift from Manchu.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

You could buy 5 penny chews. But better buy them quick because inflation will mean it’ll only be 1 penny chew soon enough.

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Infinite Ecologist
Infinite Ecologist
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

You could do what other elders like we have done – even with inflation one IVM tablet costs less than 25p. Now why haven’t the medical unions challenged the Government’s decision to prevent their members from prescribing the same to each other? (Or get it from certain overseas suppliers). Might that not be a simple solution to the claimed critical staff absences during the impending apocalyptic winter surge, through them carelessly associating with infective staff and patients? Oh damn – of course, they don’t do simple stuff any longer, do they?

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