In a pleasant surprise, the JCVI, the U.K.’s vaccine regulator, has decided not to recommend that healthy 12-15 year-olds get vaccinated due to the risk of side effects. The BBC has more.
The U.K.’s vaccine advisory body has refused to give the green light to vaccinating healthy children aged 12-15 years-old on health grounds alone.
But the JCVI said the Government should consider wider issues including disruption to schools.
Ministers across the U.K. have asked chief medical officers to look at whether that tips the balance.
Meanwhile, an extra 200,000 teens with underlying conditions will now be eligible for two doses.
Doctors identified that children with chronic heart, lung and liver conditions were at much higher risk of Covid than healthy children. A group of 150,000 children with conditions such as severe neurodisabilities, Down’s syndrome and severely weakened immune systems are already eligible.
This is out of a total of three million children in this age group across the U.K.
The decision on healthy children was based on concern over an extremely rare side effect of the Pfizer vaccine which causes heart inflammation.
But as children are at such low risk from the virus, they decided that vaccination would offer only “marginal gain” and, therefore, there was “insufficient” evidence to offer mass vaccination for this age group.
Stop Press: A journalist colleague passed on some information from a source inside the vaccination programme. Sounds grimly plausible. Below is a summary:
- An announcement to be made to the public this Sunday confirming that vaccination of healthy 12-15 year-olds WILL go ahead. Likely to be a decision made by Chris Whitty and the other CMOs, given the JCVI’s position and the fact that no senior politician wants to take responsibility for it.
- The start date for first jabs in arms has been delayed until September 13th, a week longer that originally planned. The end date by which time we are required to have offered a Pfizer jab to all healthy 12-15 year olds remains November 1st. Uptake of 75% is expected, although I think that’s a little high, particularly in light of today’s JCVI announcement. We have had to complete a planning return setting out numbers of schools and vaccinations planned for the week beginning Sept 13th – there’s going to be a big push to maximise the number of vaccinations given in schools during the first week, consent be damned.
- All relevant documents including those relating to consent forms, consent process, national protocols, etc. will only be released to NHS Trusts on Monday Sept 6th, the day after the Whitty announcement is expected. It will be interesting to see how they get around the Green Book consent protocols.
- There is some consternation within the programme that NHS trusts only found out from the BBC, not the national team leaders, that the top-up third dose (not the booster) for the immunologically suppressed will go ahead from Sept 6th. The booster programme is still planned to start on Sept 20th with priority for care homes and health and social care staff likely to be first.
Stop Press 2: MailOnline has more on this story – much more.
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About the first sensible thing I’ve heard in 18 months. I hope that this doesn’t get changed, even if the Jabemall brigade is likely a bit cross, along with the King of the World.
Reconsider the wording. We know these jabs are not safe so why inject the vulnerable when there are many other known drugs to help the vulnerable. I think this is yet the double speak and change of language used in all despotic regimes who wish to depopulate.
And the Public are so apathetic they hardly react
Great news IF it stands. Big if.
However, my money’s on some government mandarin having a quiet word in the ear of the JCVI members, following which a bunch of them are ‘let go’ and then – out of the blue – there’s a complete u-turn on their decision. That’s what happened with the 16-17 year olds and I fear something similar will happen with the younger cohort. I really, really hope I’m wrong.
I hope so too, In Germany the body recommended against inject 12 to 17 year olds, except for youngsters with certain health conditions. The states decided they will offer to it all anyway, and it is individual choice. Two weeks later the body gave in, admitting in their statement that it was a political decision.
Initially. Then they changed their mind based on “more data”. These “setbacks” are all part of the plan and used to fake scientific objectivity.
Yes. They were always going to be stabbed. JVCI is making it look like there’s a debate when there never was. Laboiur will vote with the government and from the looks of the BBC parents will endorse the jabs. Scary but inevitable. How to cover up the deaths and injuries? Well they’ve done a good job until now.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/03/child-covid-vaccines-rollout-pushed-ministers/
Precisely my thoughts – Government spin machine into stellar overdrive perhaps but they cannot get this “genie” back in the bottle (other metaphors are available)
Good news indeed. Touch wood.
Light at the end of a very long tunnel?
No. I’d keep a very tight grip on the wood that Deborah T mentions. Maybe they’ve not given the sack to enough members of the panel.
Good point, RickH.
Quite; is this really a one off event or the tip of an iceberg where some quango officials who just happen to be scientists and medics have finally decided they cannot push back against the adverse effects/death data. Pressure, conscience, fear of professional retribution ….don’t really care and can’t wait to read the minutes of the relevant JCVI meeting
Side effects? We have been told repeatedly that that there are no side effects and that people are making them up.
Wasn’t it “100% safe” according to a scottish communist with no health qualifications who runs scottish health.
Do you mean “dead behind the eyes” Devi?
Says the Bolsheviks Broadcasting Communism.
One thing the establishment and Tory-controlled BBC isn’t – is ‘Bolshevik’.
You would know, BolsheRick.
I’m bolshy – not Bolshie. i.e. I don’t suck up to patent bullshit. Thus I don’t have any patience for the sort of illiterate political nonsense you swivel-eyed dreamers are advancing.
You need to stop baby-babble politics and look at the reality of how totalitarianism, which is sui generis, insinuates itself under various guises. More – you need to get a grip on the hard fact that this current assault has come from the right and is about unchallenged and unregulated big global finance as put on these rails in the Thatcher/Regan era.
And – of course the BBC isn’t ‘socialist’. What supremely blind ignorance to think so!
It’s always been an organ of the establishment (as a state broadcaster is bound to be). Currently it’s head honcho is a paid-up Tory who has facilitated every predation of his Party as it advances down the totalitarian road. And yes – this control is worse than it has ever been. So don’t give me the ‘It’s not really Tory’ whine of the right failing to face up to what has happened under its aegis. Pathetic.
… and to pre-empt the usual whingers: yes, the Labour Party and the traditional ‘Left’ in general has been totally pathetic in also moving to the totalitarian right.
But leftist coup this ain’t – except to the one-eyed whiners embedded in the political preconceptions of the past.
“at this current assault has come from the right “
there is no left and right any more, Rick. There are the globalists and the serfs. Forget 20th century politics. It’s over.
I am firmly of this opinion too; “conventional” left and right attribution no longer works; I also think those seeking election are all in it for themselves and consider they are better “placed” to “know better” than the rest of us. What “they” do not seem to – want to – grasp is that most non politically partisan folks have sussed “them” out as a cadre a very long time ago. Faith in politicians (and I include Whitty/Vallance etc because they are making overtly political decisions to their eternal shame) has always been fluid but for me the expenses scandal and the degree to which all politicians have surrendered their ethics (if they ever had any and know what the word means) for power and money and care eff all about anyone else are just two examples of scandalously bad behaviour; from socialists accepting peerages to monetising their allegedly “public service”, from very left wing former government ministers acquiring property portfolios through taxpayer funded expenses involving “address flip-flopping” and therefor maximising PPR relief from CGT to these criminals forcing Elizabeth Silkin out of office to avoid her team preventing MP expense abuses…..events have shown how the vast majority of our elected ( !! ) representatives are just that much more equal than the rest.
Triggered again.
I’ll be back with a full response to your diatribe tomorrow morning.
Heard of Klaus Schwab have you Bolshie?
Tory is he?
I agree, you’re undoubtedly bolshy, Rick, but your fervent -often hysterical- defence of communism at every mere mention of the word severely prejudices your arguments – especially so when you can’t write a single sentence without ad hominem. I’ll hold my hands up; I had a little fun with the word-play on your name and Bolshevism, but it didn’t justify your overly aggressive response.
First of all, I will argue that it is indisputable that the BBC is socialist. It was under a post war Labour government lead by Clement Atlee that formed the TV license which still operates today. It was the same Labour government who gave us the socialist NHS and nationalised heavy industry. The Attlee government went on a rampant campaign to nationalise everything they could to create ‘state socialism’.
The BBC license fee funding is effectively a tax. Tax is socialism. Any service given by the state is socialism.
Exponentially since the Blair revolution started, we’ve witnessed the BBC become more radical left with suffocating amounts of cultural Marxism. György Lukács, one of the founders of Western Marxism, defined what the BBC does today as “cultural terrorism”.
The assault being waged on our country (and globally) has all the character of global socialism (even you inadvertently admit it with your endless attempts to conflate this with National Socialism, Hitler, Himmler… and how many more times are you going to shout about Mengele?).
The government has practically bought out all advertising and has set aside a huge budget to do so again next year – this is socialism. They have been buying out industry just like the Attlee government I mentioned above – this is socialism. They have been crushing small to medium business while taking orders from giant corporations – something Orwell called “Oligarchical Collectivism”.
There are people on these pages who spend much time listening to Delingpole who continuously conflates this with Fascism. This could be true if we only focussed on the financial side of what is happening and ignored the degenerate perversion over absolutely everything in our normal lives. This again is cultural terrorism, and is administered by Communist regimes to demoralise nations. We saw this perfectly demonstrated in the Weimer Republic.
Fascism and National Socialism was a response to this and that’s why I think Delingpole is grossly wrong with his arguments.
Personally, I’m not interested in the arguments you raise about ‘right-wing’ verses ‘left-wing’. What matters is that this so-called ‘conservative’ government has inflicted the most socialism onto this country than any other in nearly a century.
Any service given by the state is socialism.
Any piece of US interior politics boilerplate soundbite is as silly as all the others.
Come now, the Tories aren’t remotely Conservative – and the BBC is socialist to its core.
CarrieServative, i.e. whatever fashionable nonsense at someone else’s expense get Boris end polished.
Good news. But how long before the membership of the JCVI changes to become more “vaccine friendly”?
Or will the government just ignore them and go ahead anyway?
what was the name of the lady who was “sacked” after she didn’t recommend clotshots4all?
Not very long at all. In Germany it took maybe a month or two.
Judging by the Stop Press, it took about an hour.
the latter: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/03/child-covid-vaccines-rollout-pushed-ministers/
I will be absolutely stunned if the JCVI does not revise it’s guidance within a month, gives into pressure from the pharmas and their many lackeys throughout government, the civil service, the NHS, big tech, the media, the universities and finally recommend vaccines for teenagers.
That is exactly what is going to happen. Parents screaming that their children must be saved and doctors are unwilling to save them without official recommendation etc. etc. Same scenario already done in Germany.
A week tops
I’m astonished – some good news at last!
It isn’t really. It’s what you might call a false flag.
I think we know where this is going ->>> SAGE, Whitty and Vallance. I wonder how well Vallance shares are doing?
We obviously have to give another push to help Mengele’s risen ghost along.
Er not good. GSK’s performance is not correlated to how well PFizer and Moderna are doing on the back of this.
Well at least we know where Witless lives…
Does this indicate some twitchy bottoms?
A bit late if it does given all the murders they have perpetrated.
So it’s taken all this time to come to a conclusion we could all see ages ago.
Some common sense at the end of the week? Let’s hope this stands.
Where ever you look in the world, it’s not looking good for Team Health Pass and they’re getting crazier by the day ( if that’s even possible )
This is PsyOps. Impure and Simple. If you fall for this then there’s really no hope. This is what they’ve been doing for over 18 months. Carrot. Stick. Have a little carrot… then the big stick in a few weeks time. WAKE THE F*CK UP! – See what’s happening elsewhere, including Australia, NZ, US, Israel and Canada. It’s so f*kin clear to me. Why is no one else seeing this? There is NO common sense. Nothing sensible… and it’s NOT great news. FIGHT. BACK. BETTER. Information, resources and useful links: https://www.LCAHub.org/
Couldn’t agree more. Although – I’m reading Himmler’s diaries ATM, and, as the editor points out, that excrescence was genuinely convinced of his own propriety and rectitude as he planned monstrosities. It’s the way mediocre minds work, and why they are a danger if given power.
” Mediocre minds” ….So so true, agree wholeheartedly as I spouted earlier; time to remove MP salaries and pay fixed expenses – exactly what have “career” politicians ever done for the UK for the “public good”, apart from enrich themselves?
This is a political frippery perpetrated by the JCVI, psychologically designed to give a misleading impression that vaccination approval is subject to rational health considerations for all age cohorts. Reality is that vaccine approval is a political action substantially disconnected from medical reason, in conformity with a NWO / WEF / ‘great reset’ satanic plot to use Covid vaccination as a device to selectively impoverish, enslave, and genocide humanity.
Sadly Pavlov you are speaking to those of us in the know here.
It is trying to get these facts over to the sheeple.
Like many of yu on here I try but I do feel that I am losing the battle.
Must keep going, “you are not alone”!
Great Video: worth watching all the way through (approx 21 mins). The fight back is explained from around 17:00 – also available on Youtube (if you still use it) – Fight this on an individual level. Lead. Others will follow…
“It is not for nothing that our age cries out for a redeemer personality – for the one who can emancipate himself from the grip of the collective psychosis and save at least his own soul, who lights a beacon of hope for others, proclaiming that there is at least one man who has succeeded in extricating himself from the fatal identity with the group psyche” CARL JUNG
BITCHUTE VIDEO HERE
More useful information, links and resources: https://www.LCAHub.org/
Already trying to find a sneaky way round the decision by appealing to the CMOs to take a ‘broader perspective’ This government is vile. I have never felt so repulsed by those in power.
done: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/03/child-covid-vaccines-rollout-pushed-ministers/
Prediction:
Healthy teenagers will be given the injections. Bill has decreed it so.
“But the JCVI said the Government should consider wider issues including disruption to schools.”
That looks suspiciously like an intentional loophole, so that the government can decide that in order not to disrupt educaiton they will “regrettably” have to spike the kids.
Of course, if that happens, they (and the media) will ignore the point that the disruption is caused by paranoid testing regimes and sending loads of kids home, which is entirely due to the government, as hardly any kids actually get ill. They will also ignore the inconvenient fact that the stabs don’t prevent people from spreading it anyway, so if kids were going to spread it (which is itself questionable), then they will likely still do anyway after the stabbing, and there will still be loads of “positive” tests.
But inconvenient facts such as these only exist to be brushed under the carpet, and the MSM will no doubt find plenty of brainwashed parents to speak of their ‘relief’ that little Johnny and Jemima can get spiked after all.
You got it: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/03/child-covid-vaccines-rollout-pushed-ministers/
Good for them. Some “experts” are located a pair and are drawing a line. Excellent, well done.
Sorry about the mixed metaphor. Sometimes nothing else will do.
So, Stop Press. They’re determined to kill us all, after all.
Is Witty insane? one dead kid and he’s directly to blame. Who will forgive him? nobody
He will forgive himself. To Witty, we’re all just unecessary social contacts, breeding ground for dangerous viruses, and dangerously unwilling to have our lives scarificed to some greater cause an expert considers more important than us.
Why do you you think he’d care what would happen to other people’s children?
1600+ dead people after vaccination to date suggests he won’t give a toss about a few children, sadly.
He might do when one of their parents shoots him. I would, if my kid were hurt (not that I’d let them be jabbed in the first instance, but if I WERE the kind of mutton head that allowed them to be, I’d likely be the kind of mutton head who would go banzai with a shotgun)
I’d shoot him in the nuts first, and tell him why I’d done it before going for the knee caps. Then elbows. Then I’d put him out of his misery maybe.
Don’t worry Chris if you’re reading – you & your goons won’t be allowed anywhere near my precious children, so I won’t come after you. Others may though.
Am I right in thinking you’re the same Sophie who works/worked for the pharmaceutical industry? Apologies if I’m wrong.
Yup
Like anywhere, there are a minority who are immune to fear of a virus, and who can see through the bullshit
S123, Good luck finding his testicles, I have not seen him demonstrating any “balls” throughout this scam scandal.
But they will have sadlydied. Wait. No. Extremely-rarely-died, if remarked upon at all.
The people I work with practically worship him, he can do no wrong.
Oh yes.
A “vaccine” that they admit causes heart problems in kids (potentially long-term, potentially fatal) recommended to be rolled out to kids with heart problems. You couldn’t make it up.
I thought this myself: This looks a bit like an expensive kids the NHS can do without list.
My friend had arrhythmia in the past. Under control. Or at least it was until she had the jab, and now it’s very much NOT under control.
Have a jab. Why? For my health? No. For political reasons.
Someone is definitely not happy with this decision
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1433809436339056640
Majority of comments are very amusing
Wow those comments are frightening
It’s remarkable that some people still can’t seem to wrap their heads around the fact that the experiMENTAL jabs don’t stop people spreading and catching the virus.
I know. I don’t even know how to handle such idiocy
The comments on there show just what sort of mindset we are up against.
Or perhaps lack-of-mindset would be more appropriate as they just seem to be unthinkingly parroting the approved line
Calvinists
You can hear Mengele clapping in approval….
I suppose Nicola will be first in the queue to get her children vaccinated.
Oh wait. She doesn’t have any kids, does she?
The tartan Taliban out in force in the comments.
From the Daily Mail article linked ATL:
‘The JCVI said in July there was a risk of the heart inflammation in about one in 20,000 young people after being fully immunised with Pfizer’s vaccine.
The Moderna jab, which works in a very similar way, is thought to carry the same risk.
The JCVI ruled against recommending the vaccine to healthy children then because the risk of dying from the virus for them is lower than one in a million.’
How much clearer can it be that the vaccine is all risk and no benefit for kids?
Some light relief courtesy of thecounservativetreehouse.com:
https://youtu.be/JKP7NY6z388
All of the lies Boris churns out, and all of the ‘U-turns’. And yet people are still willing to believe he’s telling the truth now? Do people really trust what the JCVI says? Really?
they only take the advice of scientists whose opinions they like.
I skim read the mail article. It was very long but kept saying the same things over and over again, about five times! Reminds me why I often just read the headline and first paragraph.
Read the headline and thought ‘well they would say that wouldn’t they’. B o l l o x.
Eg that’s the headline but that, as we know, ain’t what’s gonna happen.
Lovely. A well deserved “casualty pass” to Mr Whitty.
It’s time to NOt follow the science, apparently: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/03/child-covid-vaccines-rollout-pushed-ministers/
Yep, follow the science when it says what you want to hear. This really makes me sick.
Yesterday the papers carried a story of a teenager who died of cardiac arrest in the middle of an FA youth cup game. Presumably, the teenager was both fit and healthy if he was playing to that standard.
Yet nobody asks the obvious question, presumably because they don’t want sn answer. Had he been recently vaccinated in the headlong drive to get anybody an everybody to buy into this criminal conspiracy.
There is a fucking great pink elephant in the room, and everyone is trying not to stare at it.
I’d imagine they are banned from asking such questions.
And conversely, in a concerted “this should shut the anti-vax brigade up” moment, virtually all of the msm were falling over themselves to point out that footballer Christian Eriksen had not received the covid vaccine prior to his heart attack.
This is a political frippery perpetrated by the JCVI, psychologically designed to give a misleading impression that vaccination approval is subject to rational health considerations for all age cohorts. Reality is that vaccine approval is a political action substantially disconnected from medical reason, in conformity with a NWO / WEF / ‘great reset’ satanic plot to use Covid vaccination as a device to selectively impoverish, enslave, and genocide humanity.
Interesting that the same words and advice to jab the vulnerable is being used as was in 1939/45. Let’s save the vulnerable by killing them off…..
This has nothing to do with following the science and everything to do with Gates and Blair pushing for vaccine passports which will lead to being microchipped. Parents should withdraw their children from school. Johnson is a cowardly immoral narcissist.
The only microchips that are needed to control you are already installed in your smartphone. What’s missing yet is tying your ID and possibly biometric data to the device (so that it can be cross-checked with the ID contained in “passport” automatically). From then on you do not even have to take out the phone out of your pocket in order to be “authorized” (or not).
They even have tracking capability when you return home and put your mobile down on your desk…..people are happily wearing wristwatches that provide tracking…..for what I ask? So Alexa has even more reach?
I guess in this case, the government will go against the science and double-jab kids anyway?
So the Government’s mantra of “following the science” is going to be ditched in favour of “doing whatever we want, regardless of the risk to healthy children.”
No, they will create a new science more fitting to their agenda by invoking social costs and disruptions that will tip the balance in favour of spiking the children.
And yet the BBC sub headline is “there is a strong case for vaccinating children”.
If this isn’t propaganda I don’t know what is.
The stop press and an article in the Terrorgraph this morning would seem to indicate that despite the medical warnings the injections will go ahead. Perhaps Whitty is the front man for this, but he couldn’t do it without the go ahead of Javid and Johnson, and lets not forget that weeks ago there was a massive recruitment campaign for vaccination operatives in all school districts. This alone should have been the confirmation that regardless of what the medical advisors said the Government was going to press ahead with stuffing the product into children. Still no journalist has pinned down any Minister, Johnson or SAGE advisor including Whitty, Valance and Van Tam to ask them WHY?, Why is it so vital that they get this experimental product into Children, why are we as a nation standing for it?
Top marks for Terrorgraph!
“The decision on healthy children was based on concern over an extremely rare side effect of the Pfizer vaccine which causes heart inflammation.”
I wonder where the BBC draws the line between “rare” and “extremely rare”
So that’ll be weighed against the stupendously extremely rare death from covid19 in this age group? Not by the Big Bunch of C-words, it won’t
Are we to deduce from this that all the other potential side effects, known and unknown, count for nothing?
Good point.
This unholy drive to inject kids with an experimental therapy is truly frightening – especially when they are pretty much at negligible risk from the disease itself. I notice that Savage Jabber has urged the JCVI to look again in a broader context. Which is itself an admission that, although kids are at more risk harm from the vaccines than they are from the disease, there is a broader context that makes it all OK!!!!
I notice the non-existence of any “broader context” when considering lockdowns, or masks, or vaccine passports. Let’s just kill a bunch of kids because it’s OK in the broader context shall we?
It’s called ritual sacrifice.
Well, let’s be fair: it will reduce school over-crowding!
“…the top-up third dose (not the booster) for the immunologically suppressed will go ahead from Sept 6th. The booster programme is still planned to start on Sept 20th with priority for care homes and health and social care staff likely to be first…”
what’s the difference between a top up 3rd dose and a booster? I thought it was the same crap in the syringe.
They are planning to inject 500,000 of the vulnerable yet have advance ordered 35 million doses from Pfizer to be delivered the second half of 2022. Ongoing subterfuge and subservience of those who have failed to see what is happening.
Those poor people in the care homes, being subjected to more of the toxic mix. They will be forced to have it under a group admin template, their best interests decided by social workers etc. Another round of killings…
Great Video: worth watching all the way through (approx 21 mins). The fight back is explained from around 17:00 – also available on Youtube (if you still use it) – Fight this on an individual level. Lead. Others will follow…
“It is not for nothing that our age cries out for a redeemer personality – for the one who can emancipate himself from the grip of the collective psychosis and save at least his own soul, who lights a beacon of hope for others, proclaiming that there is at least one man who has succeeded in extricating himself from the fatal identity with the group psyche” CARL JUNG
BITCHUTE VIDEO HERE
Where, if anywhere, did the fact that none of the ‘not a vaccines’ have completed their trials, and won’t until next year at the earliest.
Do any members of the JCVI know what effects resulting from ‘Codon Optimisation’ of the ‘spike protein’ component of the ‘not a vaccines’ (different in each ‘not a vaccine’)were examined during the trials? [It is recorded in the submission for the Pfizer EUA, so both the MHRA and Pfizer knew that there were risks involved in the different refolding of the protein compared to the ‘wild type’ spike but testing was not recorded as having been undertaken.]
Finally, what credibility does the JCVI have left if it ignores the, as yet unknown, long term effects arising from these novel mRNA treatments and bases its advice on only a couple of months of vaccinating the under 30s during which time there has been heavy suppression of reporting of adverse effects by doctors.
They will do it. Just to humiliate you and your children. They want you to be subjugated, without control over consent for your children. They are disgusting.
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