The Israeli Health Ministry has raised concerns that there could be a link between the Pfizer Covid vaccine and heart complications, particularly among younger men. There are currently 62 recorded cases in Israel of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, which occurred in the days after vaccination. Pfizer responded saying it has not seen similar reports in other countries where the vaccine has been rolled out, though this could be because few other countries have vaccinated as many young people as Israel. The Times of Israel has the story.
Details from an unpublished Israeli Health Ministry report into the side effects of the Pfizer vaccine have raised concerns that there could be a link between the second shot and several dozen cases of myocarditis… particularly in men under 30, Channel 12 reported Friday.
The concerns come from an intermediate report that was presented to ministry heads and to Pfizer in recent weeks, the TV report said. Excerpts from the leaked report stressed that investigators had not conclusively proved a link, but that they had significant concerns.
The report said that out of more than five million people vaccinated in Israel, there were 62 recorded cases of myocarditis in the days after the shot. It found that 56 of those cases came after the second shot and most of the affected were men under 30.
The report said that 60 of the patients were treated and released from hospital in good condition. Two of the patients, who were reportedly healthy until receiving the vaccination, including a 22 year-old woman and a 35 year-old man, died.
“The findings were presented to the Pfizer company who replied that they had not had similar reports in the rest of the world and would examine the data,” an excerpt from the report said, adding that the details had also been sent to the U.S. FDA and CDC, who were also investigating.
The report was authored by senior ministry officials led by Professor Dror Mevorach, head of one of the Covid units at Hadassah Hospital Ein Kerem.
The authors surmised that “one possible reason for lack of similar findings in other countries was the low rate of vaccinations among young people”.
“There is specific concern regarding the frequency of the occurrence observed in men under 30 in the days immediately after the second shot,” they wrote. “At this stage, according to initial findings that still need to be verified, there is an impression that the number (of cases) is higher than would be expected, especially for those under 30.”
The report found that of those who received the second dose, 1 in 100,000 had possible side effects of myocarditis; however, this number rose to 1 in 20,000 among those aged 16-30.
“We cannot yet tell if there are more cases than normal or if there are similar numbers annually and the proximity is just a coincidence. Efforts to collect more data are continuing,” the report said.
This news comes as the E.U. gets closer to signing off on a deal with Pfizer and BioNTech to buy up to 1.8 billion doses of their Covid vaccine. The bloc has come to prefer this vaccine to that produced by AstraZeneca due to a number of factors, some of them political.
The Times of Israel report is worth reading in full.
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blood clots or heart attack. maybe I’ll just rely on the ol’ immune system.
+1
This is what you get when you take untested vaccines. Two years ago if the Government said to 65 million people “Take this needle in your arm which is untested, a brand new procedure which has never passed testing anywhere in the world because almost all animals tested with it since 2002 died” what would the majority have said? Now they queue up for it and shout down anyone who dares tell the truth. I’ve come to the point where I can’t be bothered with them any more and figure they deserve everything they are going to get. The reason the animals died is well known and the world will be a better place when the Covidians die out.
Quite – but not all at once please!
For anyone who is having a bad day. Pure gold:
‘Joe Biden’s worst 100 days’
‘The only good thing about the complete drivelling idiots now in charge of our federal government is that they are both so extreme and so stupid that not even their plan to legislate fraudulent voting can save them from electoral disaster in 2022 and 2024. In less than 100 days this administration has created the worst illegal immigration problem yet; made the US a mockery in the rest of the world; threatened to plunge us into stupid military conflicts; laid the groundwork for China to pull even further ahead in educational, scientific and industrial capabilities; created unavoidable extreme inflation pressures while ensuring that growth will disappear (it is hilarious to see Jerome Powell tell us not to worry, they have the tools to control inflation); run the debt and deficit up to new highs which are completely unsustainable and created the most divisive racial situation in the country for decades. Not bad for a senile, corrupt lifelong political hack. How much of a moron do you have to be to attempt these radical things at a time when you hold the House by 3 votes and the Senate is a tie………’
https://healthy-skeptic.com/2021/04/22/joe-bidens-worst-100-days/
Yep – two utter morons in a row is a heavy cross to bear.
Looks like Biden has a supporter
And now it looks rather more as if Trump has LOTS of supporters.
Who gives a toss about that gone con artist and his fraudulent background?
Lockdown has lots of supporters (more than Trump, even). It remains a stupid phenomenon. Just like Trump.
But what’s the moron – or his alternative – doing here?
When you get away with stealing an election, you aren’t threatened by future voters. You relish the ruin you are wrecking.
If you’ve gotten away with stealing the election, you don’t worry about future elections. The new administration is wrecking run on purpose.
Wrecking ruin
I’m hoping someone here can clarify exactly what the animal testing situation is on covid vaccines, I’m hearing different reports, some say covid vaccine trials on animals were skipped, others say they did do trials. Which is it? If they did do the trials I presume the results were ok? Or was it a case some animal testing was done but it was not the full set of tests that would normally be required?
From what I remember, Dr Mike Yeadon said that no animal trials were carried out on the current covid “vaccines”. He did say that previous attempts to manufacture a mRNA coronavirus vaccine resulted in the death of all the animal subjects when challenged with the wild virus.
I read that there were animal trials done but I don’t know if they followed up on the animals. So nobody knows the long term effects.
There is some info about it here:
https://regenerativemc.com/pfizer-animal-trial-results/
https://regenerativemc.com/thursday-4-8-2021-what-happened-in-the-animal-trials-for-mrna-vaccines/
More info about animal trials
Thanks guys, I wish I could remember where, but thought I read/saw some expert rebuttal insisting animal trials were carried out but it didn’t go into detail which always makes me suspicious. I always find it very frustrating not being able to have a proper, live discussion with these people to ensure they’re not inadvertently giving a false impression.
Many thanks for the links, I’ll have a closer read later, initial impression which may be wrong is trials on something similar but not a (mRNA) covid vaccine suggested caution to a human vaccine is indicated and trials of actual covid vaccine were only on 24 mice and 18 macaques and relatively short duration. i.e. so far seems to me animal trials were done but not exactly thorough, but I’ll need to read more thoroughly.
Yes in all the ones I read they declared the animals totally fine and killed them after a week to check out their lungs and confirm that they were totally fine.
Much more detailed and careful research was done after the disastrous RSV vax in the 60s. I think we have to wait for something to go equally disastrously wrong before anyone will replicate this research for SARS2.
I read they killed them all on previous mRNA trials but just stopped following them after the pfizer ones. Both choices appear peculiar to me. Then again, I haven’t read about trials extensively before.
It’s pretty much academic now that the vaccines have been used on an unprecedentedly large number of people already.
I don’t expect VAERD to be a problem except with Coronavac, and I don’t know how common it is/will be. I still haven’t seen their full results from Chile. I heard 80% efficacy against death– but what were the ages of those who did die after the vaccine? This is important to know.
But while I say I don’t expect this I don’t know for sure and nor does anyone because nobody has done the detailed research we would need to understand this better. We never really go to the bottom of it for RSV, SARS1 and MERS (and atypical measles which I think is a similar issue). We have a plausible theory about it but no more than that.
The theory I keep reading about is that when people are exposed to a wild type of the virus, the immune system might overreact. For example, if the lung is infected then it might start attacking the lungs.
If this is true, lots of people will die. I have no idea how likely this is since I’m not an expert and although some scientists are saying this, many are not. Most of the ‘vaccine deaths’ I have read about it appear to be completely random organ failure/heart attacks and so on.
I read the actual papers for AZ and Coronavac and they both tested on monkeys. Who did not get VAERD (vaccine associated enhanced respiratory disease). I’d be surprised if the mRNA vaccines were not tested in the same way.
More recently however CureVac (who are making a fridge temperature mRNA vaccine) did a controlled experiment and managed to produce VAERD for SARS2 in mice not with their vaccine but with a deliberately sketchy one to prove the theory about how it can happen.
Coronavac (which has been widely used in Turkey, Brazil, other places probably, and of course China) basically does everything wrong according to that theory, should never have been approved, and there are already disturbing news reports from Brazil of what sounds like VAERD.
I don’t think we will see this problem with the other vaccines. If we do then in order of likeliest first, of the front runners, it will be Covaxin, Novavax, the mRNA ones, J&J, AZ.
AZ comes out the best here for once
But I wouldn’t take it unless you have carefully weighed the risk of severe adverse events involving blood clots.
What are you basing these claims on, i.e. relating to the propensity of different vaccine types to be associated with disease enhancement? From my reading about previous instances of vaccine-related disease enhancement it’s not possible to conclude that it’s necessarily associated with certain vaccine types and not others. It’s also far too early to be drawing any conclusions about any of the Covid vaccines in use with respect to this.
The basic theory is that enhancement arises from a bias away from “Th1” towards either “Th2” or “Th17”. These are sort of overall immune system strategies, and Th1 is the one you want for viruses.
Various things were shown to prevent VAERD in mice along these lines– using an adjuvant that biases towards Th1, or, even better, using a live attenuated virus as the vaccine.
A live attenuated virus actually infects cells and present antigens on MHC1 to CD8+ T-cells. This is really the best way to get a Th1 response and may be protective in itself. An mRNA or vector vaccine is an approximation of a live attenuated vaccine (but is safer). The antigen doesn’t exist in your body until it’s created inside cells and is therefore almost guaranteed to be perceived as a virus, with CD8+ T-cells and Th1 cytokines.
Inactivated whole virus vaccines (like Coronavac and Covaxin) and protein subunit vaccines (like Novavax) tend to be worse, but you can try to bias things back towards Th1 with a careful choice of adjuvant. Covaxin and Novavax do this. Coronavac uses alum, a known Th2-biasing adjuvant.
There is also some evidence that including the N protein in the vaccine makes things worse.
Enhancement has however been seen with MVA vectored vaccines that encode just the spike for SARS1 (https://insight.jci.org/articles/view/123158) so just using a vector vaccine is not a guarantee. But MVA is known to give a defective CD8+ response (which can also be fixed with an adjuvant) so maybe that’s what happened there.
SARS2 can enhance (as CureVac showed, with a protein subunit vaccine) but it does seem to do it less than SARS1 did, where it was kind of obvious right from the start with pretty much any vaccine.
It’s all too uncertain. From my readings there are multiple possible mechanisms for disease enhancement. It has also occurred with different types of vaccines – including viral vector vaccines as you point out. There’s no way on the basis of what is known that you can neatly order vaccines in order of likelihood to cause disease enhancement. It seems to be a quite poorly understood phenomenon.
Thanks everyone for all the responses to my question, very interesting and much appreciated.
80 years ago the Luftwaffe was pounding British Cities and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill was leading the world against Tyranny.
Today British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is the enemy of the British and wants to impose a permanent Global Tyranny on Britain.
Nationwide protests ERUPT against Lockdowns! THIS IS GETTING HUGE Over 1 million protesters in London. Britain WILL take back its freedom!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvR-0wK3wBc
It’s a bit difficult to judge size over the live feed – but those of us who remember the Iraq protest may be a bit sceptical in terms of ultimate impact in this sad apology for democracy.
Thought I would check this out as the march has cheered me up so much. But guess what? They have already taken it down.
God, I hate them
Actually, sorry, it does come on after a fair bit of waiting ha ha
Though I don’t take back the end of my last comment
They never learn do they? Something similar happened after the 1976 Swine flu vaccine when 500 people developed Guillain Barre syndrome and again after the 2009 Swine flu outbreak when people, especially children, developed narcolepsy after being vaccinated.
We are all just lab. rats.
GBS is an autoimmune reaction. Myocarditis is a rare condition following infection or some medication including some antibiotics, flu vaccine, smallpox vaccine and diphtheria vaccine. Apparently it could be a T cell mediated autoimmune response.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30795818/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15878006
https://smallpox1962.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/hello-world/
The genesis of the vaccine programme was rooted in pure idiocy.
To purchase :
… was stupid/corrupt in the extreme.
That people fall for it is a measure of how the normal functioning of brains have been corrupted by the psy-op programme
Unfortunately this is what can happen when you rush out a new medical technology like a bull in a china shop. This must have been one of the biggest medical experiments in the history of mankind and I still struggle with understanding what it is really all about.
Under 30’s negligible risk of COVID death. An otherwise healthy 30 y.o. Takes a vaccine, then suffers a serious adverse event, like myocarditis. This is unforgivable. There is a valid reason these drugs must go through a rigorous trial to avoid harm. Sadly, these drugs are in trial with no long term safety or efficacy data. Criminal negligence being carried out by governments, health authorities and all the nurses and doctors and others administering experimental vaccines.