Boris Johnson Says Lockdown Not Vaccines Responsible for Drop in Covid Cases and Deaths

Has Boris lost his faith in the vaccines? That's certainly the impression you'd get from what he has said this morning. But he is wrong to claim that infections have fallen mainly because of the lockdown.

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Has Boris lost his faith in the vaccines? That’s certainly the impression you’d get from what he has said this morning. Speaking in 10 Downing Street, the Prime Minister said:

The numbers are down – of infections and hospitalisations and deaths. But it is very, very important for everybody to understand that the reduction in these numbers – in hospitalisations and in deaths and infections – has not been achieved by the vaccination programme. People don’t, I think, appreciate that it’s the lockdown that has been overwhelmingly important in delivering this improvement in the pandemic and in the figures that we’re seeing. And so, yes of course the vaccination programme has helped, but the bulk of the work in reducing the disease has been done by the lockdown. So, as we unlock, the result will inevitably be that we will see more infection, sadly we will see more hospitalisation and deaths, and people have just got to understand that.

Notice that he didn’t say it’s a matter of waiting for the vaccines to take effect. It now appears that, regardless of vaccinations operating at full power, the Prime Minister thinks “inevitably” we will see more infection, hospitalisation and death.

The PM added that “at the moment” he couldn’t see “any reason” to change his roadmap for easing lockdown restrictions.

At Lockdown Sceptics, of course, we can give him several reasons for getting a move on. Florida, Texas, Georgia, South Dakota, South Carolina and Mississippi for starters. These states all currently have no restrictions at all, whether because they never had them (South Dakota), because they removed them after the first wave in the spring (Georgia and South Carolina) or in the autumn (Florida), or because they lifted them in the last few weeks (Mississippi and Texas). If lockdown is what brings infections down, what has brought them down in these states?

The claim that lockdowns “control” the coronavirus has no basis in the data or in the evidence-based (as opposed to model-based) scientific literature. No evidence-based study has found a statistically significant relationship between the severity or timing of interventions and Covid cases or death counts. It is “fake news”, to use the current parlance, and scientists and politicians need to stop repeating it as though doing so can make it true.

Looking just at the UK, it’s clear from the data that new daily infections peaked and began to fall before the lockdowns on all three occasions. Chris Whitty even admitted as much to MPs in July in relation to the first lockdown.

According to ONS data, new infections in the winter surge in England peaked in the week ending December 26th, nearly two weeks before the January lockdown and right in the middle of Christmas mingling that was predicted to cause a spike.

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If lockdowns control the coronavirus then how can this be explained?

On one level it should be welcome that Boris is candidly admitting that the vaccines will not prevent all infections, hospitalisations and deaths. But then no one ever thought they would. The aim was just to make endemic Covid no worse than the usual pathogens we face, which many people believed requires effective vaccines. Now we have vaccines, there is no excuse not to lift restrictions, particularly seeing that places which have remained fully open even without vaccines have not seen catastrophic consequences, and often fared better than places with strict lockdowns.

COVID-19 outbreaks have consistently shown themselves to be self-limiting, regardless of what measures are or are not imposed. In some places the outbreaks are more severe, in some places less so. As with other similar seasonal respiratory pathogens this will be due to a combination of seasonality, the development of population immunity (including from vaccines, where available), the effectiveness of treatments, population density, and numerous other factors that might affect a population’s susceptibility to a particular pathogen. But on no occasion have the models attributing the differences to lockdowns been validated by empirical data.

As the Government appears to be preparing to pivot away from its vaccines-will-save-us narrative, the big danger is that what we get instead is not a freedom that accepts governments cannot prevent all evils, but a future of indefinite restrictions, periodically tightened and loosened, as the myth persists that only such measures are holding back the flood. If we are no longer to see the vaccines as our saviour, it is imperative that the Government shift to a zero restrictions approach, not a zero Covid one, and set us free without further delay.

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Peter W
Peter W
5 years ago

Johnson is trying to make “lockdowns work” his defence against the hangman’s noose. It’s his only excuse. Perhaps he actually believes it. Cognitive dissonance can be a very destructive thing.

Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
5 years ago

I’m curious as to why Billy-boy has been quiet of late. I wonder when “the next one” that is supposed to make us really pay attention will hit.

JohnnyDollar
JohnnyDollar
5 years ago

I have to admit, I REGRET voting for him. Clearly, NOT only he is NOT in charge & is being influenced, but he also doesn’t seem to realise what a FOOL he continues to make of himself. he might we a fan of Science Fiction, but we’re NOT. NO ONE could have exposed these folks BETTER for they really are, better than the job they are doing themselves.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago

And yet the government said vaccines were working! they are incapable of telling the truth.

QuodVerumTutum
QuodVerumTutum
5 years ago

“There is nothing to fear but fear itself.”

The Walrus
The Walrus
5 years ago

While I agree with the points being made, it’s not correct to state that Florida has “no restrictions at all”. I was there on vacation last month and masks were required inside shops, restaurants, etc. with most complying. There were unfortunately many who also wore masks outside even though not required. I don’t think the mask restrictions help at all but it should be noted they exist there.

lilyrose
lilyrose
5 years ago
Reply to  The Walrus

I think that is because whilst the Florida governor has opted for no restrictions, actual businesses are free to choose, and many choose to carry on with masks etc unfortunately

Dunno
Dunno
5 years ago

Too much of the UK population appears to be put up with whatever nonsense comes out of the TV. To be fair it’s sadly the same here in Australia.

Ruth Sharpe
Ruth Sharpe
5 years ago

I know this is a logical statement I am about to make & the government doesn’t do logic, but if that man is now saying vaccines aren’t tbe be all and all, where does that leave vaccine passports?

FarligGods
FarligGods
5 years ago
Reply to  Ruth Sharpe

In the bin where they deserve to be

QuodVerumTutum
QuodVerumTutum
5 years ago
Reply to  Ruth Sharpe

Correct. No logic in government action. It substitutes fear-mongering for logic. And the scary thing is that the poplulace buys it on average.

QuodVerumTutum
QuodVerumTutum
5 years ago

The only way hard lockdowns ‘control’ the spread of the virus is if they are permanent. As soon as the lockdown is shut down, as long as there is a single person with the virus mixibg with others, cases will go up. This is what the mindless governments base their knee-jerk responses upon. They can’t stand the idea of cases going down, then going up. But that is the nature of viruses and the government can do absolutely nothing about it. Other than gettting people vaccinated as quickly as possible and achieving herd immunity. That and that alone will stop the spread of the virus–until next season. I am astounded by attempts to dismiss herd immunity and replace it with government over-reach. That is like dismissing gravity.

FarligGods
FarligGods
5 years ago
Reply to  QuodVerumTutum

Proper lockdowns are only for very small, very isolated cases where the control of spread is possible to prevent it getting out into the larger populace. This mass scale “lockdown” of whole cuntries and continents is utter nonsense…

QuodVerumTutum
QuodVerumTutum
5 years ago
Reply to  FarligGods

That’s reasonable. Do you believe China’s claim that it completely ‘defeated’ the virus in a matter of weeks based upon its Draconian measures facilitated by its surveillance police state ?

Shropshirelad
Shropshirelad
5 years ago

The only cabinet minister who is PM material (not Hancock, Gove or snitch on everyone Patel) is Liz Truss.

Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago

This is what Britain has become, a pathetic snitch culture.
https://gab.com/DavidVance/posts/106062786651860848

Beowa
Beowa
5 years ago

For someone who won a scholarship to Eton and has an Oxbridge degree he’s either pretty stupid or thinks we are

Epi
Epi
5 years ago
Reply to  Beowa

Probably a bit of both

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago

I am sure these words will come as a great comfort to all those who’ve been poisoned – whoops, had the jabs I mean.

As ever the truth is the direct opposite of Bozo’s words.

Lockdowns don’t and never will work.

bowlsman
bowlsman
5 years ago

Until the 70% who think Boris has done a wonderful job actually wake up and realise what’s been done to them you’ve no chance of ever being free again.
Oh and it King Matt (the saviour if our world) who’ll replace Boris. That should terrify the shit shit of all if us.

HoMojo
HoMojo
5 years ago
Reply to  bowlsman

Don’t believe that 70%, it’s bulshit.

wantok87
wantok87
5 years ago

When we have health secretaries and political leaders whose last brush with science was as teenagers what do we expect? We have elevated mathematical guessing and wrapped it up as epidemiology; meanwhile contemporaneously promoted Public Health doctors to autocratic dictators of liberty with silly and oftener contradictory rules between different parts of the UK.
Sadly society has willingly accepted narratives of mask and lockdowns and become snitchers ,condemning the rule breakers (apart form when PRIMARK opens or a quick discount is on offer.). Boris is floundering because he is singularly unsuited to his role of controlling a scientific heath problem and cannot discriminate between scientific fact, fabrication and folly.

imp66
imp66
5 years ago

Johnson is a misguiding c*nt! Please fill in the blank appropriately and send to everyone you know. If you have obediently stuck out your arm and taken their experimental “vaccine”, how do you feel now? Time for us to really “Build Back Better” and ignore these manipulative devils once and for all.

nottingham69
nottingham69
5 years ago

One aspect Willy missed and this winter it was the most crucial regarding spread. The infection control performance in the local NDS hospital. The aspect the media and politician’s don’t talk about.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago

WANKER!!!!

sunny66
sunny66
5 years ago

And still people believe him?????? Aaaaaarrrrggghhhhh, wake up people!!!!!!

Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
5 years ago

Good God. The naked dishonesty is staggering. That or he’s suffering some form of clinical delusion. He’s made a risky calculation, hasn’t he: many people will now not bother with the vaccination – but many people (who would have reacted badly when he imposes the fourth/fifth/sixth lockdowns) will not now do so because, robot-like, they will continue to obey the BBC, which is Boris’s mouthpiece and which they still profoundly, tragically trust. The point is that he doesn’t care if the figures rise rise again as a result of a sudden drop in vaccinations; healing the people is not the point of the exercise. Mr Klaus Schwab and co have presumably reminded him that he’s doing too well with his vaccination programme and that the aim of the game, silly Billy Boris, is to depress the economy in such a way that it can be bought up easily by the “philanthropy” that will descend like manna from above (but actually from the gods of Davos (Gates, Soros etc). Boris is simply doing their bidding.

JohnK
JohnK
5 years ago
Reply to  Corky Ringspot

Or he could lose both ways, if large numbers of people ‘grow up’ and refuse to co-operate with the scam. May you live in interesting times.

Philip Neal
Philip Neal
5 years ago

Search and replace on a few key words and you easily get to this.

The runes are shrinking – of denunciations and house arrests and deaths. But it is very, very important for everybody to understand that the shrinking of these runes – in house arrests and in deaths and denunciations – has not been achieved by the exorcism programme. People don’t, I think, appreciate that it’s the vigilantism that has been overwhelmingly important in delivering this improvement in the threat and in the runes that we’re reading. And so, yes of course the exorcism programme has helped, but the bulk of the work in reducing the threat has been done by the vigilantism. So, as we get used to it, the result will inevitably be that we will see more denunciations, sadly we will see more house arrests and deaths, and people have just got to understand that.

MikeAustin
MikeAustin
5 years ago
Reply to  Philip Neal

Blimey! Your imagination frightens me more than my own imagination!

MikeAustin
MikeAustin
5 years ago

Nightmare scenario
He has credited lockdowns, just after loosening the current lockdown, for a reason. With extra testing, bogus ‘cases’ will increase. There may be delayed deaths from the ‘vaccines’ that will be misattributed to covid-19. There will be another lockdown and those not ‘vaccinated’ will be blamed for spreading.
The next lockdown has been predicted by that scoundrel Neil Ferguson. Never before have we had a respiratory outbreak in the summer – but what if they already know that the ‘vaccines’ will cause fatalities? The scoundrel’s model may be right for the first time.
This is really scary!

HoMojo
HoMojo
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

If the vaccinated start dropping like flies they can hardly blame the unvaccinated for spreading it. Clue: you have to be infectious first.

Apache
Apache
5 years ago

No point in bothering with the vaccine then.

James Kreis
James Kreis
5 years ago

“Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right
Here I am
Stuck in the middle with you”

Think Harder
Think Harder
5 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

This is really scaring me!
Scenario: Claim lockdowns work so you condition people for more. Use a dodgy un-tested vaccine that might just cause more COVID (many experts have this concern), break small businesses so the people have no option but big business, blame the un-vaccinated or sceptics for the next maybe larger wave, you’ve got your scape goats, solidify authoritarianism around dealing with the reticent, disbelievers, get the population onside with internment or worse… sounds like Germany once upon a time, except everyone has a digital number and can be cut off to starve for not falling inline. CCP showed the way. Who’s behind this? The big investment houses, Gates, Sorros? CCP? Who’s making the puppets dance?

I hope I’m the nutter for thinking this.

jos
jos
5 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Sounds as if you’ve read the leaked satanic manifesto. You forgot the Bill Gates’ plan for cooling of the planet to make living off-grid impossible and forcing us all into cities. Diabolical is what it is if we can believe it and every day seems to take us closer to having to admit all the theories are facts.

Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
5 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

The banking dynasties, end of – you know the names, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Morgan blah blah blah. Gates, Sorros etc are just slightly more useful idiots (that have a hard-on for eugenics) than the dancing puppets. Global governance out of the ashes of the economic atomic bomb that’s gonna go off once their ducks are in a row is the aim, mixed in with a fair bit of depopulation to conserve resources. See Dellingpole’s podcasts with Patrick M Wood. Read “The Creature From Jekyll Island” and any number of subsequent books about the latter day monetary system or the Trilateral Commission.

This thing has only just gotten started. The only way we’ll ever see another true general election is after a very ugly war. Fight to live or die coming our way soon. Flight ain’t gonna be an option.

sunny66
sunny66
5 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

Ooo very good James!

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
5 years ago

Total bullshit from Jokeson yet again. I imagine he has had all mirrors removed from his numerous homes; how could anyone look themselves in the mirror after what he continues to do? He is an absolute disgrace, his party and all MP’s who supported lockdown and the illegal imposition of Laws with no democratic oversight are no better. Vote anyone but the Lying Four currently running Parliament. I’ll never vote for any of them again in my life.

jos
jos
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

This could be the year of The Monster Raving Loony party! They’re looking like a safer option..

Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
5 years ago

There seems to be no evidence that people will accept – however glaringly obvious, written in mile-high neon letters – that this is designed to last forever.

HoMojo
HoMojo
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

It may be designed to last forever but it won’t. There will be push back. Don’t think the ‘designers’ figured on so may people seeing the holes. Granted still a minority, but growing.

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
5 years ago

You have two choices folks. Either continue putting up with this deranged nonsense and suffer the consequences or start acting with honour, integrity and courage. Just like our forefathers did. I want to be able to face my forefathers in future without shame and with honour. I want my children, and their children, to live in a world of peace and without fear.

The least I can do is try my best to make it happen.

sgf
sgf
5 years ago

Yesterday the government were saying that vaccines have saved 10,000 lives. Now BJ is saying it’s all down to lockdowns! You have to ask why? Public Enquiry? More lockdowns on the way? Never ending emergency powers? What is their game? Whatever it is, it won’t be good for us plebs

Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
5 years ago
Reply to  sgf

Why not claim 50,000 lives? Or ten million? It would have as much basis in evidence (none).

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago

Well, what did we expect?
That they admit that neither lockdowns nor the vaccines work and made a difference?
They, the media, the medical profession and 90% of the population have entered a one-way cul-de-sac without any turnoffs.
They are determined to crash into the wall, again and again.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago

Bertolt Brecht:

He, who does not know the truth is just a fool.
He, who knows the truth, but lies about it – is a criminal.

So, do You have access to the latest hidden data? Well, the news comes in German, but there are translation helpers now. The short end is:
The majority of people croaking in the UK are now those, that have received two doses. My father died last Wednesday after the first shot of which we don’t know which brew it was. His doktor Mengele told him it’s state of the art treatment. State of the art euthanasia. Cannot sue the Mengeles now. They are all protected from liability.
Have to stop now, or I use very expletive language.

The Vaccination Death Blow:

https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/der-impf-todesstoss

hellsbells
hellsbells
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

I’m so sorry to hear this, my sympathy to you and your family

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  hellsbells

Thank You very much. It is a worst case scenario for my family. I was denied boarding last August and could not return to Germoney. My parents were devastated and so was I – having had terminated my Uruguayan life with great losses. Now, my Mom with progressing dementia is all on her own – my siblings are also overseas and not available. The tragedy is, that due to my PTSD, my parents were the only support I received. It’s all so very messed up right now.

hellsbells
hellsbells
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

That’s awful, life is hard enough as we get older and families live far apart, without all this going on too. I hope your mother has some kind friends and carers nearby (and you too)

Mayo
Mayo
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

The person writing the article does not really understand what the UK modelling study is saying.

Yes – future cases will be dominated by vaccinated people but that’s because the vast majority of people will be vaccinated. e.g

90% vaccinated -> 70% of cases
10% unvaccinated -> 30% of cases

Relative risk for unvaccinated compared to vaccinated is about 4

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

Okay. Please be a little bit more precise, and I will relay that information to the author. Nobody is served well by articles that are not written fully understanding what the source actually shows. Thank You for Your assistance in this matter. We need the clear and concise truth. I was under the impression that would be the case.

jos
jos
5 years ago
Reply to  Nottheonly1

They’re only indemnified against adverse effects of vaccines- these are not vaccines by the legal definition so they’re not protected against any litigation.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
5 years ago
Reply to  jos

The deeper problem is now the ‘justice’ system in Germany and elsewhere. Having right is not equal to getting right. Dark times indeed.

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