Boris Johnson has stressed the importance of keeping the vaccine rollout at its current pace due to the risk that the ‘third wave’ of Covid infections across Europe will hit the UK as well. Sky News has the story.
Boris Johnson has been “reassured” EU leaders “don’t want to see blockades” on the export of Covid vaccines – as he warned a third wave of infections in Europe would likely hit the UK as well.
Amid a dispute over a possible block on exports of coronavirus jabs to the UK, the Prime Minister said he had been “reassured by talking to EU partners over the last few months that they don’t want to see blockades”.
He stressed the UK was “on course” to vaccinate the top nine priority groups – including all over-50s – by April 15th, while the Government would “bash on” with its roadmap for lifting lockdown restrictions.
Mr Johnson said he had talked to EU leaders “repeatedly over the period”, adding: “We’re all facing the same pandemic, we all have the same problems.
“I think one thing worth stressing is that on the continent right now, you can see sadly there is a third wave under way.
“And people in this country should be under no illusions that previous experience has taught us that when a wave hits our friends, I’m afraid it washes up on our shores as well.”
That last sentence is poorly constructed. If a person is “under no illusions” that “previous experience has taught” them a particular lesson, that implies “previous experience” hasn’t taught them that lesson, when Boris clearly means the opposite. Tsk, tsk.
The Prime Minister’s garbled statement follows recent warnings that an increase in Covid cases on the Continent could prevent Brits from holidaying abroad this summer.
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About time they mandated an Unvaccinated Passport system
I’ve already got one.
So the plan is to use the vaccinated to spread the infection around the unvaccinated to teach them a lesson.
In a nutshell.
Whilst entertaining them mightily!
in old and vulnerable maybe but good natural immunity generally protects against catching enough load to manifest symptoms – so Sage, up yours.
Except they clearly haven’t taken into account that the unvaccinated’s immune systems have not been severly damaged by the toxins in the vaccines and will work against all variants. So given that this is a relatively mild illness for most regardless of a vaccine (and it’s well over 99%) the unvaccinated have a very good chance of recovering pretty quickly. Plus they have plenty at their disposal in terms of the right supplements and nutrients etc and various advice and protocols are out there for all to see. So if they planned to harm the unvaccinated ” it aint working” and it won’t work. Also with every passing day you get another person jabbed saying why am I so ill? There is only one direction for these people- they either stay brainwashed and sadly many will and in which case they go over the cliff edge soon or they move over to the other side.
Can someone please explain to me how your vaccination protects me?
Assuming that you are unjabbed, then compared to a jabbed person you will have less risk of catching the dreaded rona. For that we can thank all those who were noble enough to bare their arms for the Covid “poison death shots”.
My reading of the data is that if the “vaccinated” are more likely to test positive for covid and (according to the mainstream logic) to be both infected and infectious than the unvaccinated, then it follows that the so-called vaccines are creating more opportunities for the population to “catch covid” than if no one had been vaccinated. So, one could reasonably argue that they are putting me (or anyone else, for that matter) at greater risk of getting the ‘rona – not that that bothers me in the slightest, I just resent all the gaslighting of the great unvaxxed.
AND as said previously, sacking all the unjabbed care workers leaving just the stabbed essential workers in care homes surely increases the risk to the also very stabbed elderly and vulnerable from the infectious jabbies…if you get my drift? Some weird kind of logic at work here.
Yes, anyone would think, given the data here, that they’re actually trying to kill off the elderly and otherwise vulnerable. Surely not!
Oh if you haven’t seen this already, and it could come down any time, this is a laugh and a much-needed breath of fresh air.
https://youtu.be/GRv7gMCsTjU
Love the bit where someone sneezes and he imitates a siren going off!
Drs in the US have shown from blood test results that these vaccines harm and destroy immune systems and that is why they are now seeing people’s cancers and other chronic diseases return with a vengeance. Most people I know double jabbed have now come down with this virus, having been perfectly well the previous year with no jab. I assume this is because they are now more susceptible to this virus (and the variants the vaccines are creating) as their immune systems have been damaged. Spike proteins, PEG, Graphene Oxide and heavy metals are not exactly good for the human body. The only thing these vaccines may do is to reduce the symptoms of the recipient and that is highly questionable (and not happening for the over 50’s) when you look at PHE technical briefings.
I am behind the 8 ball – Last I heard Del B and ICAN were attempting to get unredacted FDA documents which detail the entire list of ingredients for the Pfizer jab which they have had to lodge with their approval/authorisation for the Cominarty jab – it being the same – because the EUA process allowed Pfizer to redact , for reasons of commercial secrets, said ingredient list. Anyone know where this has got to?
They got a reply and apparently it was water. Either someone is deliberately messing about or they’re lying
It just does, OK? Now go and get your jab and don’t stand so near to me.
Ha ha. Makes me laugh that so many “vaccinated” people I know still freak out about people standing too close to them in shops etc. It’s almost as if having the jabs has made them even more fearful of catching the ‘rona. And they won’t even be aware of this data! One thing’s for sure, being jabbed has made them more stupid, unable to question the grossly incoherent and contradictory narrative. Good little sheep.
Because people are assuming that all vaccinations are the same. The covid vaccinations have only ever been designed and intended to reduce the severity of symptoms.
This is completely different to a sterilising vaccination such as measles or (oral) polio which does genuinely kill all the virus in your body and thus prevent it from spreading – something that can contribute towards herd immunity, which may be beneficial for the vulnerable who can’t be vaccinated.
That wasn’t what many politicians claimed initially – there were many assertions that they would reduce infections, but they’ve been busy using the memory holes since then.
Although the graphs in that same PHE report do appear to show that people who have been spiked are less likely to be hospitalised or die, this isn’t convincing without more detailed data, in particular:
If it is the case that people with comorbidities are far more likely to be spiked AND far more likely to die with Covid (whether spiked or not), then the data would not necessarily demonstrate vaccine effectiveness – it would merely demonstrate the correlation that those most likely to die with Covid have been spiked. We are back to the issue of control group here, and there not being one.
Well, the theory is that because someone has been vaccinated, when they inevitably become infected with SC2, the symptoms of the resulting C19 infection are much reduced and therefore that person is less infectious to others.
However, it rather seems to me that currently, the blame for the continuing infections is being put at the feet of our children, most of whom are still unvaccinated. The reality *may* be that, in fact, it is the symptomless, vaccinated and infected who, unwittingly, are the problem. After all, if you have symptoms you are much more likely to get a test, find out you are infected and take sensible precautions to protect your fellow man. If you don’t know you are infected then you aren’t.
And this is why, for my money, the real key to controlling the spread of SC2 is to implement regular testing of *everyone* – most people once every 5 days, say, others who spend all day meeting people (eg shop-workers) should be tested every day and health-care workers maybe twice a day. We didn’t have the ability to do this more than 6 months back but we certainly do now using the simple, effective, quick and *cheap* lateral flow test.
But this isn’t going to eradicate SC2 (as some who should know better often talk about) and let us all go back to ‘normal’ – that will only happen when a significant proportion (80%?) of everyone on the planet has had it and either died or recovered. There simply is no other way out of this.
Isn’t it a good thing that the Cymrujabberoids are now herded into their own spaces, where they can’t contaminate the rest of us?
It is and the music’s shit anyway.
The only people I know who’ve officially had covid (ie were stupid enough to get tested) have had it post “vaccination”.
That’s been precisely my experience and it’s almost 100% of them. What on Earth are we witnessing?
Gibbering mass idiocy. A familiar sight by now.
Yep me too.
Apart from one person, exactly the same here too. Brother in law got the jab – couple of weeks later got the Rona very badly and gave it all his kids. Half a dozen friends of mine got sick with Rona after the jab, only one unjabbed and that was last April.
My in-laws’ entire circle of friends (generally middle-class Guardian reading educated socially responsible lefties) exactly the same story. Not a hint of covid in 2020 but have all had it (in some cases quite seriously) this year. It’s quite astonishing isn’t it. Of course they’re holding on to the “thank god I was jabbed or it would have been really bad” line for now!
They can’t admit that the quacksines don’t work. They’ve spent too long screaming, stamping and bullying.
they don’t give a toss about whether or not they work. Only about whether or not you’ve complied.
That is very true and exactly what is happening here in Ireland now. Stepping up the message about the unjabbed driving cases, hospitalisation, icu and deaths, so that they will say they can’t ease restrictions as planned in two weeks, and how it’s all down to the unjabbed because we’re the only ones who can spread it. All to ostracise us more and pressure us to comply.
Except that they’ve realised they’ve gone as far as they can in terms of influencing people through fear, guilt and shame and have changed tactic to pure unashamed and blatant punishment of the “unvaccinated”. Let’s hope it doesn’t get as bad here as it is in Italy.
As in the UK the Irish government’s main aim is to kill off its citizens.
Was for the traitor Varadkar, maybe.
So it’s been all fine and dandy without Varadkhar as Taoiseach. I still hold to the view that any government pushing the Covid “poison death shots” is aiming to kill off its own people. Ireland is certainly no exception.
Not really, I was referring more to Varadkar’s betrayal on social issues though he has been pretty awful on lockdowns as well.
Oh it’s definitely the people who haven’t had this drug who are causing the problem with the drug.
And compliance means complicity, which means a premature death.
I broached the subject in a room full of sixth formers this morning who had all been jabbed and then mostly got covid. They got a (spoken) slap in the face with a reality kipper for breakfast from me
I wish I’d had a teacher like you when I was at school.
I was told I was “too much of an iconoclast” to be a prefect
What a backhanded compliment!!
I’d have loved to have been a fly on that wall.
I’ve decided to not hold back any more. They all just looked at each other slightly bashfully…
Surely at least a few of them must have said “but it would have been much worse without the vaccine”?!
Whoa! Mind how you go cg.
Hat’s off to you for your stance and having the gonads to speak out but, if you value your job and want to keep it, tread very carefully.
Consider what’s happened to Prof. Kathleen Stock. All she wrote in her book was: “Trans people are trans people. We should get over it,” she writes. “They deserve to be safe, to be visible throughout society without shame or stigma, and to have exactly the life opportunities non-trans people do.” If she can be cancelled for saying that, I dread to think what could happen to you for delivering truth bombs to your class about Covid and the vaccines.
Just my £0.02p worth!
My thoughts too, best to be subtle with your truth-bombs if you work in education or health. Some of the “vaccinated” are full of self-virtue and delight in reporting members of the resistance to the stasi.
Yep, noted. I think in the back of my mind I’m expecting to be out of the job over this at some stage and I’m developing a somewhat nihilistic approach.
Working for the NHS, I know what it feels like to have the sword of Damocles hanging over my head. Hang on in there comrade.
Yes, in a year or two jobs will hardly matter. In the medium term, that is before 2030, they want us dead, except for a small corps of theirtranshumanised helpers.
Those overly worrying about their jobs s haven’t yet fully grasped the enormity of what is already happening right in front of themselves.
I can always count on you to take things to the grimmest possible conclusion Rowan! But I can’t disagree with you ever….. I just think they’re too inept to get what they want.
I only tell what is plain to see for those who are honest enough to look.
Yes they are inept and even spectacularly so at times, but none of this ineptitude seems to have much impact on the brainwashed masses who continue to line up for the lethal injections.
You’re absolutely right I should behave myself really but sometimes it’s impossible; I played my cards close to my chest for months but now I feel almost duty-bound to tell the truth. I was fairly careful; didn’t start dismantling the entire narrative, but told them quite emphatically that I wouldn’t be having it as it demonstrably doesn’t work!
Respect cg, big respect. As Helen says – hang on in there comrade!
It just reaches the point where you lose patience, doesn’t it? I’m not in a profession where there’s such a push for conformity as those of you in education and healthcare, but nevertheless I am surrounded by people who believe everything the BBC and Guardian tell them – the one colleague who shared my views left recently, so I think I’m now a lone voice.
After not saying much for months, I make comments at every opportunity now, especially around the Covidian fetish-rituals (which seem to be applied remarkably selectively – offices with more than a handful of people are far too dangerous, but going down the pub in a larger group is fine).
Indeed it’s selective. Fascinating really. A bit like Pavlov watching them dogs
Its all conditioning. Entry into the office has been ritualised as you say, but going down the pub hasn’t. If these zombies actually engaged their brain and formed an independent thought, they would see how pathetic they look. Alas, they feel much safer in their herd which lets others dictate their behaviour.
I hope your verbal ‘slap in the face’ will make them think twice about having the inevitable boosters.
Thank you Will for keeping going with this. We will not see this Government data shown on mainstream news. It will be interesting to see if the boosters make a blind bit of difference to “case” rates. My money’s on it not.
They will increase them, as we know the jabs lower lymphocyte counts for the first 2 weeks. And winter is coming so more virus is circulating.
The FT did a piece earlier this week saying this report was questionable because the denominator was not reliable, and modelled ONS population data should be used instead (which of course showed the vaccines are amazing). Only I would say:
1) that is bollocks as I am fairly sure the authors of this report will have considered choice of denominator and picked the one considered most appropriate
2) it is confirmed with data from Israel and Qatar, published earlier this month in the NEJM
Of course all my comments pointing this out under the FT article were deleted.
My money is on the government blaming the impending winter cull on the flu. Blaming covid is way too risky for TPTB as that’s admitting their precious vaccines and boosters don’t work, and that the vaccine passports are pointless in terms of public health. They will have to fudge the data to promote the booster programme, which will inevitably be rolled out to younger and younger age groups. Any increase in “covid cases” will be blamed on the unvaccinated under 12s, and that will be used as a reason to roll out the “vaccines” to every child eventually. Those are my predictions. The only way this will stop is by people waking up and not complying.
A worrying prediction indeed. Let’s hope for a full scale narrative collapse.
Dear Santa, for Christmas please can I have a full-scale narrative collapse?
I’ve been good (when viewed from a counter-narrative perspective)
The narrative is full-scale collapsing under its own weight, though I sadly doubt it’ll be all over by Christmas.
It certainly feels that way but can Normies see any of this?!
Most Normies will go to their early graves thinking that Boris Johnson and his boss Bill Gates are such caring people.
Yes, I think the same as you. For the past few weeks here they’ve been going on about a terrible flu season coming that will put the hospitals under pressure again, possibly combined with corona.
Perfect way to explain away why so many double vaxxed are still getting sick and ending up in hospital. And why they still need to continue using the fascist passport – the app won’t stop people getting flu unfortunately, but thank goodness an app on your phone can prevent you from getting corona. Apparently…
reading your post made me think of another prediction. Flu jabs being added to the vaccine passports. Maybe there will be a sliding scale of “permissions” depending on how up to date you are with all your jabs/boosters.
Somebody did post something the other day that in Spain they want people to keep wearing the face diapers (they haven’t stopped since May 2020) to stop the spread of flu… and no one seems to mind there.
Simple logic dictates that such ongoing onslaughts on the immune system will cause problems in at least some people. We don’t even know how people will react to having the clot shot and the regular flu shot at the same time – although obviously we will be finding out soon enough.
I am aware of several NHS staff who have already received their booster but not offered the flu vax at the same time.
Perhaps receiving both at the same time is a treat reserved for the general public?…
Stop! Triple barred from everywhere!!
They are already working on it and no doubt a few more besides. With a shrinking population, those still standing will require to be jabbed much more often, if profits are to be maintained.
I can recommend The Joe Rogan Experience interview with Alex Berenson (Spotify) who refers to a lot of UK data.
It’s nearly 3.5 hrs long but the first couple of hours cover the most compelling stuff.
Will certainly check this one out. JR is an interesting character in all of this; walking a very thin line throughout. We all know what he thinks though!
“modelled ONS population data”
Anyone who touches ‘modelled data’ in this shit-show needs a brain translant.
As statistician William Briggs pointed out (long before COVID), models cannot produce data by definition, “data” being the raw stuff of reality, and “models” being the theoretical machines you put it into to make predictions about what future data might be, if the model is something like fit.
“datum, n.Thing known or granted, assumption or premiss from which inferences may be drawn; fixed starting point of scale, &c…”
A model, in other words, can only model data if a theory can predict a given, or if you like if an argument can produce an initial premiss. Which does not compute.
It is true that the data are sensitive to the population estimate — they know exactly how many have been jabbed, but the ‘unvaccinated’ are just ‘those left’.
The problem is that they don’t know how many there are in the country.
It is no good using ONS population estimates as they’re definitely too low — for example, the official vaccination %ages use the ONS estimate (or did until recently), and they show a few age groups with vaccination rates over 100% — ie, there are more vaccinated than officially exist in the country.
But they don’t actually want to use a good estimate, because it is convenient for them to just say ‘ah, it’s the denominator‘ and point to some official estimate figures rather than actually provide accurate data.
I’d note that there is no official estimate of vaccine effectiveness at 10 months (where we are now for those vaccinated earliest) — how convenient.
The boosters will cause the Covid case numbers to rise quite dramatically, as will deaths and serious illness.
We are watching complete narrative collapse.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/status/1448736278015586304
This is just another phase. It’s not ‘good news’. It means the confusion among the populace is increasing. Remember, they haven’t been paying attention.
I don’t know the pathway however I believe the ultimate destination is war. Our people are not ready for this and what history tells us is that they’ll lash out. Or they’ll nead to be directed away from the source of their problems to a more manageable enemy.
What is going on with the full frontal in Auz feels like a preparation for something. Is it war? Will China invade Taiwan? Will the West and its new war pact with Auz mean a pre emptive manoeuvre?
We are not just going to turn this ship around.
We are already at war. Civil war. It just hasn’t been announced yet.
First time I’ve heard the process of sheep walking blindly into the abattoir as ‘civil war’!
I’m referring to the war the government and their cronies are waging against the people (sheep included).
OMG that was class! So good I had to watch it twice!lol I wanted to catch the second to last one ( I think ) that said “Stunning study shows just how ineffective Pfizer vaccine is”, but I can’t see the source. Anyway, I’m sure it’s all been covered on here previously. I’m not on Twitter but I like Joel’s tweets a lot. Wish he had a blog.
I googled it for you:
https://www.citizensjournal.us/stunning-study-reveals-how-ineffective-pfizer-vaccine-actually-is/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=pmd__QUXeOW9CaTirfNMVhW9iuT0cyv8fK9gztrze8JlDDE-1634365818-0-gqNtZGzNAqWjcnBszQel
hilariously, google said “are you sure you didn’t mean “stunning study shows how effective Pfizer vaccine is”?
No I bloody did not!
LOL that’s the difference between Google and duckduckgo I think! Thanks a lot for that!
That was beautiful! I will be sharing the hell out of that.
China and Taiwan, the one to watch. As corona fear wanes and corona anger rises, perfect for Western governments to deflect anger against their disastrous policies toward the country that started it all – angry, fed-up populations dealing with high inflation and lower standards of living, gear up the propaganda that worked so well for corona..
The easiest way out for the West, deals with inflation, people understand lower standards of living come with war, get rid of lots of people for a ‘noble cause’. Tried and tested.
A bit far-fetched I hope but I don’t know any more. The ‘Trusted News Initiative’ has helped destroy, er, trust.
A good 2018 book ‘Giants – The Global Power Elite’ notes that six organisations account for ~90% of world news output. Aaargh. With that concentration, little hope of an investigation in the MSM revealing a criminal conspiracy like Watergate …
I’d like to think it won’t happen, but I do believe that China will make a move on Taiwan (partly because it said it would). Will the West rush in?
That is harder to say, but as the next few years are probably going to see some hard times arising in the West – not only higher energy prices, but possibly black-outs and the like, continuing decline of health care services as tens of billions were p*ssed up a wall on face masks, tests and other useless nonsense rather than being invested in staff and proper treatment, lower food production due to ‘green’ policies (aka make politicians’ buddies in the ‘green’ industry mega-wealthy) – it would be an easy way of dealing with domestic unrest.
Totally correct about MSM – I read mainly Dutch and UK news and see so much stuff mirrored in Dutch news that clearly came straight out of Reuters with a tweak here or there. And I suspect a lot of our covid news came straight from pfissers marketing department, probably with a payment to publish it and present it as a news item rather than the marketing puff that it really is. MSM has suffered a lot from the internet, so have to grab the money where they can.
Even 12 years ago Nick Davies in Flat Earth News showed how the news had become largely driven either by PR releases of various kinds or lightly retouched from news agencies with their own lack of resources and frank biases.
That leads to unreliable news even with honest journalists, but has set up the entire news industry to become completely manipulated by a few owners with an agenda, by governments “friendly” or hostile, or by NGOs looking to channel public opinion.
A preemptive attack on China, yes indeed they are stupid enough to do it. Of course we plebs will end up dead, but that’s probably just what they want.
“There is still nothing from Government sources acknowledging this failure of the vaccines against infection, its implications for policy and analysing what might be behind it.”
Of course not. This data completely invalidates the requirement for care home staff to be vaccinated, or for vaccinated travellers to be given favourable treatment, or any use of vaccine passports. It’s too inconvenient to acknowledge not only that the vaccines don’t stop infection but can increase infection. Not to mention the unprecedented vaccine harms, two orders of magnitude higher than previous vaccines.
But it is not only shown in the UK data. A large study in Qatar showed the same, that vaccine effectiveness turns negative after 20 weeks. Likewise in the biggest study of all, the whole Israeli population, based on which Pfizer admitted to the FDA on September 17 that their vaccine effectiveness after a few months was ‘not statistically significantly different from zero.’
It is this data and these admissions that confirm that the stringent vaccine apartheid policies in Italy and France, in Lithuania and Slovakia, in Australia etc, are nothing to do with public health. Nor is it here.
The sooner the population of this country wakes up from all the government, media, BigTech and BigPharma gaslighting the better. We are all being bullied by drug pushers.
I’ll add Denmark data.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mahmudme01/status/1444528425918767105
And let’s throw another dart.
Taiwan!
https://mobile.twitter.com/pcrclaims/status/1448622309917478915
What will happen when these things end up in court? As they will at some point. Will judges pooh-pooh what is becoming an overwhelming tsunami of clinical data showing these vaccines are just crap?
“We are all being bullied by drug pushers.”
I can’t disagree. But I see no signs of a general awakening.
Creating the case for another Xmas lock up.
Note the absolute rates for deaths and hospitalisations – even on this data. Way lower than 1%.
“Our data suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick.” – Rochelle Walinsky, head of the CDC. (at some time in the past, it would take an unusually brass neck to say that now)
Rochelle Walinsky looks increasingly manic and panicky. She must be having some sleepless nights….
She really does. She realises she’s been set up, I think.
Have we got to the bottom of exactly why and how being jabbed makes you more likely to test positive? Surely if the test is fraudulent nonsense anyway they could ‘fix’ this embarrassing problem?
In the US they test the jabbed at a lower cycle rate to avoid this problem.
Double plus good
It feels more and more like a strategy of causing maximum division and chaos. Are they going to ‘flip the script’ and tell the vaccinated they’re the problem?! I sort of hope they do; I would darkly enjoy that.
I would assume that soon, probably this winter, a tipping point will come whereby the real world data will totally eclipse the propaganda, mind-control, psy-op, suppression of data and dissenting voices etc bullshittery that we’ve all been assaulted with thus far, and even the most ardent brain-washed cult member will have to acknowledge some hard facts as they look around them. They cannot hide the ever-mounting evidence against the harms and ineffectiveness of the jabs and the ‘passports’ for much longer. I’m also eagerly watching how these strikes in Italy are received. All it takes is some success in one country and that will encourage others to take similar action worldwide. Here’s hoping!
Some of these strikes seem to be working in the US.
Yes I was very heartened to see the impact of the Southwest Airlines strike. May this give many hope and encouragement to go down the same path. They just need to get enough people to do it and keep up momentum.
You got a downtick there from a wealthy industrialist with skin in the game
Either that or they’ll turn on us in a final act of desperation
I like your version better.
Except they don’t know who we are
Except I’ve been telling everyone
Unfortunately I think many in authority have too much invested in the existing narrative (sometimes literally invested) to ever let this happen…the data are already out there but they are managing to sweep it under the carpet thanks to a near monopoly news broadcaster.
I wish I shared your optimism, but the falsity of the Narrative has been clear for a long time, and at each stage that falsity has won out in the face of reality.
And all of us who were ‘courageous’ enough to volunteer (unasked) to form part of the untreated control group should be proud that this analysis was possible…
Doubt we’ll get any thanks for that!
And yet the mandates continue, because this is about control not public health.
…and slapstick comedy, apparently.
The funny part is that I could take this graph and put it in the face of most people I know and show them that it comes from Public Health England and they would still somehow arrive at the conclusion that I was a dangerous lunatic spreading mistruths. They’re too far gone. I suppose by about the fifth booster and the 17th round of breakthrough covid, they might be ready to start talking. We’ll just have to let them get on with it in the meantime. They’re on a one way trip to Jabsville, will they ever get back to Sensetown? I need to go to bed.
Last weekend, I was talking to a friend. During the conversation, she told me she had been double vaxxed and asked me if I had been ‘vaxxed’. I told her I wasn’t sure what the relevance of the question was but no, had no intention to be and that was my considered choice. She told me that was my right, to exercise personal choice and she thought it was a terrible idea to bring in vax passports and the various discriminatory tactics and she did not view anyone any less, she respected their choice. She even laughed and said how ridiculous it was, the suggestion that everyone should be vaxxed to protect everyone else, and that it was well known that ‘you can still catch the virus and pass it on when vaxxed!’. I asked how she felt about that aspect and didn’t she think it was a pointless exercise queuing up to be injected, especially with a new pharmaceutical preparation that had no long term data and questionable data to date. She confirmed she was aware of all this and it was a bit worrying. She does not agree with children and younger people being injected and is doubtful that it was necessary for so many in various age groups to be vaxxed. She was strongly advised by her GP to be vaxxed due to a minor heart condition she has. We talked about how the government was dealing with the virus and the various actions, guidelines, restrictions and laws that had been introduced. She said there had definitely been an overkill about the whole thing and that there just seemed to be something ‘going on’ with the government, especially the misinformation and refusal to look at alternatives and what she saw as blatant coercion – and it was happening worldwide with other governments. It made her think there was another agenda going on and that they weren’t being truthful and telling the public why.
We had a really good conversation and I was surprised how much she knew…then she brought me back down to Earth with a bump – she said, she might as well have the booster anyway, as she’s come this far but she definitely will not have any more as she was aware of the poor results in Israel. Three jabs was her limit and she would be really angry if ‘they’ pushed for more and she would downright refuse. She was waiting for her appointment and was having her annual flu vax as well, to prepare her for the winter, as she knows – and in fact, everyone knows – the NHS struggles every winter without fail, especially with respiratory conditions. She was angry that the government wasted millions of pounds on building Nightingale hospitals which weren’t used, more money wasted on the constant testing, the tracing system was useless and she’d like to know how much money has been spent on the constant advertising in the newspapers and on tv about covid- because all it has done has frightened people! She said that money could and should have been invested in the NHS as too many people had suffered, not from covid but from neglect of other conditions! She said it was no wonder that some people had died after catching the virus as their treatment needs for underlying health conditions had not been met – or even diagnosed – due to inability to see GPs or attend hospital appointments for various reasons and that was unforgivable. I suggested she express her opinions to her MP.
I left shortly after her outburst. I don’t know if I was shocked, bemused, disappointed,surprised, confused or whatever about our conversation. What I did know is that I was in need of some paracetamol for the headache I had developed…
Fascinating.. the way your friend is able to separate the vaccine itself from the political environment in which it emerged. I’ve seen this too in family members, they acknowledge like your friend that many of the reactions and policies have been over the top or counterproductive but haven’t seen that as a reason to turn down the vaccine. That’s even if they are well aware that Pfizer et al have a record of malfeasance. My father in law is a retired pharmacist who wrote a novel (!) 10 years ago about a gigantic pharma scandal and, well, he’s just had his booster. Remarkable. It’s fear isn’t it? It’s also generational, and I think particularly to his generation (early 70s) just unthinkable that a fraud on this scale might be possible. Hard to hold your truth and not be gaslighted in these circumstances isn’t it!
I’m sure the older generation have more trust in institutions, but why are so many young people so ready to believe?
A very interesting question. I’ve been saying for a while now that it’s down to us Gen Xers (if that’s what you are!) to sort out this mess!
Yes I just squeak in to generation X! But what to do? I know the 17/18 year olds have been thoroughly brainwashed (I work at a 6th form) but was hoping for more kickback from 20-somethings?
My DD (Mumsnet
) is in her early 20s and very much kicking back but her friends not so much. For them it seems to be about pragmatism; travel, etc) they’ve had it very easy in life really haven’t they; we can’t expect them to be revolutionaries. But then neither are we really. However we’re old enough to have a sense of political identification and dissatisfaction and (in my case) criminalisation as an illegal raver! The idea that authority doesn’t have your best interests at heart. In a sense, we’ve all got Tony Blair to blame for ‘cleaning up’ the image of politics.
Maybe because the vaccine reduces your chances of getting to hospital with a covid-19 infection. Just a wild guess.
Hmm whilst increasing your chances of catching it it seems..
Yes, and so what?
You’re an enigma. Very hard to pin down your position. You don’t like creeping authoritarianism but you seem to believe that vaxports serve some genuine purpose – today at least – although their stated aim is a lie, you believe. I’ve had covid and don’t want or need a vaccine for something I’ve already had, especially when side effects are a known risk. No bs here I don’t think.
I’m not sure what is so hard to understand about my position.
The world is not black and white. Bad policies can be somewhat effective for reasons different than what the policy-makers publicly declare. And they can still be wrong policies for more important reasons.
The principle of individual liberty is more important than the protection of public health from a disease which is 2x as deadly as seasonal flu.
Keeping an unvaccinated person out of public life will reduce their risk of infection, and encouraging a vaccinated person to participate will increase their risk of infection. Because vaccines reduce the risk of severe disease from infection – similarly, but not as good as having had covid-19 – this policy even makes sense in terms of “getting through the pandemic with least possible deaths”. It is still unethical, based on deception, and certainly disproportionately harming certain groups for the uncertain benefit of others, therefore not worth it in terms of cost/benefit.
By explaining how these policies work I am not advocating them.
BTW, it is not the vaccines that increase chances of infection, it is the (desired) behavior of the vaccinated.
What? Not buying that. Are you suggesting that people who have decided to take their chances without it are somehow more cautious?
Yes, they are both more cautious (it is one thing to bitch about vaccines online and another to actually believe your own bs and risk your own health). Also, the unvaccinated are discouraged from getting back to normal life through barriers such as mandatory testing and vaccination passports. Many people (including myself though vaccinated) actively avoid any venues that impose these restrictions, in a way “voluntarily” locking themselves down.
Distrust in vaccines does not mean that you automatically believe that a corona infection is not risky (only the dumbest of the anti-vaxxers actually believe that).
You must have difficulty thinking straight. Tortuous logic at best.
Our case is that we have totally refused to ‘hide away’ as unvaxed. We have gone out of our way to conducty ‘ordinary’ life as much as possible. We have committed the ultimate sin of crossing several borders since this shit show started, putting ourselves in harms way according to your logic in metal sausages for hours on end with a bunch of vaxed individuals.
We have no idea if we have had the disease from the virus, we have only taken tests when absolutely necessary to travel, and then only one PCR so far. We may have been infected in Bangkok in January 2020 when enjoying Chinese New Year with thousands from Wuhan, but if we have we don’t know and have no wish to know.
There is absolutely no excuse for insisting on injecting people with an untested gene therapy for anything, nevermind something like seasonal flu. The draconian measures by governments to force conformity by withdrawing inalienable rights is wicked and evil. its clearly part of an attempt to change societies and create the environment for fascist biotech controls to be put in place.
In different ways we all need to fight against this however we can.
And that starts by not constructing some nebulous logical argument that tries to escuse some of this.
Your detailed narration outlines aspects of the problem very well. This coercion is operating, to a great extent, way below the level of rational thought.
I did this with a colleague the other week. We both work in an area where our jobs involve analysis of clinical data and using it to advise people, and we’ve both been doing it for over 20 years. So you’d think we would look at the same report with its clear cut conclusions and come to some kind of agreement?
He had to grudgingly accept the jab potentiated infection, but immediately leapt to the “it still limits sickness and death,….protect the NHS” bullcrap.
It MAY limit pressures in the NHS from COVID temporarily, but without all cause mortality & morbidity data, we don’t know if it protects the NHS, and ACM is running above average with heart attacks and so on….now, I wonder what might be causing that?
I wanted to shout WAKE UP YOU DOZY FUCKER! But I am very professional.
My goal is to sow at least one seed of doubt every day, wherever I go. Keep chipping away.
You do right. That’s what Prof Matthias from Belgium was saying in his video re hypnosis and mass formation. Keep bringing the counter-arguments backed up with data and eventually it should sink in. These twits can bury their heads in the sand for only so long. Perhaps a Covid ward full of fully vaxxed this winter might get some to scratch their heads! lol
I listened to him too! Going to do it. Twice a day if I get the opportunity
I managed to turn my deeply entrenched mother-in-law. She went from thinking I was a crazed conspiracy theorist in Spring 2020 when I described it as a coup, to sending me the very video you describe on Mass Formation last week (as if I hadn’t already seen it!) I just chipped away each time I saw her and now she’s on the path of righteousness!
And has turned down the booster
Result!
Trying to stop my parents from having the booster. Mum’s consultant is ‘strongly advising’ her to have it…. I’m using facts intertwined with emotional blackmail! Hopefully the blackmail will win….
Fighting emotive propaganda with emotive propaganda seems entirely appropriate!
I have found that indirect ridicule works too. I don’t attack the person, or any belief they have already stated. However, the absolute nonsense that is this pandemic response, is rife for ridicule.
Making someone feel stupid, without directly attacking them does have an impact.
That’s why I decided to reframe it setting it in the 1980s in my satirical YouTube channel which still hasn’t been taken down: https://youtube.com/user/CrisisGarden
How utterly infuriating for you! And the added layer to this of course is that we wouldn’t be seeing these hospitalisations and deaths if people were being treated properly with drugs that actually work. But as far as most people (even doctors) are concerned it’s untreatable. The whole paradigm is a lie; and we’re reduced to arguing the point on the terms of the criminals. I think that’s why I’ve ended up simply making fun of it all. ‘Wake up you dozy fucker’ is an entirely reasonable sentiment. I would like to fly that message from the back of a plane!
and we’re reduced to arguing the point on the terms of the criminals
We (well most of us) are readily accepting the existence of angels and their ability to dance on the head of a pin, only pausing to wonder how many might be able to ‘do a Strictly’ together on that pin.
“Keep chipping away.”
I think that’s all one can do. Shouting and bawling at the unconvinced is totally ineffective.
Well your point about all cause mortality comparisons is spot in, IMO.
This has to be THE key metric. The facts that there must be smart people in Whitehall who know this, and that no such data is available is very telling indeed, and makes a properly considered decision on having the vaccine impossible.
Since the number cases per 100,000 people is clearly related to the number of people getting tested the figures may not be a true representation of the number of people catching covid.
If the majority of unvaccinated people are anything like myself (healthy and therefore in a low risk group), aren’t scared of covid and haven’t been brainwashed by the government then they aren’t going to go running to the nearest test centre every time they have the slightest sniffle. (In the past 18 months I’ve had several mild infections that could’ve been covid, but were more likely to be a cold, and never bothered to get tested).
Therefore the figures based on positive test results could be missing a lot of mild cases in the unvaccinated, but picking them up in the vaccinated simply because the vaccinated are getting tested more often.
Therefore a much better way of assessing vaccine effectiveness would be to compare the percentage of tests that are positive in the 2 groups, if the data is available.
Just curious why “vaccinated” people would be getting tested in the first place. Are they actually encouraged to do so, if they get the slightest sniffle, when they go for their second jab, or in the pamphlet they get? Just seems odd that you’d get jabbed only to have zero confidence in the stuff you’ve been jabbed with, and still behave like a paranoid hypochondriac! Crazy.
A lot of people are still testing regularly for work aren’t they? That might make the data more representative. At work we have been invited to take part in saliva testing (i assume this is some kind of trial), might have signed up to it if the email hadn’t gone on to say they still expect participants to do two LFTs per week
I read on the BBC the other day that the vaccine reduces chance of infection by 50%, and that 1 in 3 people can spread Covid without any having symptoms. What utter nonsense.
Can we report them for misinformation?
I’ve had this figure presented to me by a Covidian colleague who seemed to pluck it out of his arse. Now I know where he might have picked up the misinformation. Should have guessed…
I’ve been keeping score! Here are the results so far.
Two. The number of people I know personally who tested positive for Covid last year. One of them, a doctor, was off work for a few weeks but not in hospital. His doctor had prescribed antibiotics in case it was really a chest infection. The other, with COPD, was fine.
Eight. The number of double jabbed people I know who have tested positive for Covid this year after showing symptoms. Two of them also passed it on to their children. This number includes the mother of my grandson who was rushed into hospital last year with bacterial pneumonia, possibly as a result of mask wearing.
It’s just not healthy being a Covidian.
Ha ha! No it’s not!
2020: not a single Covid case in the wider circle of me and my whole family’s acquaintances
2021: 1 stroke, 2 GBS/Parkinson syndromes, 2 falls (1fatal) after fainting, 1 hospitalisation for clotting, 1 fatal heart attack (63yrs), plenty of persistent long term side effects, all after getting jabbed.
Countless Covid infections among those jabbed anyway, of course.
Me thinks, we/they have been sold a lemon, and more of them start to think so too- still unable or willing to connect all the dots though.
Unwilling, above and beyond all else. The push over here was not as harsh as in other countries, resulting in very high uptake. They’ve been jabbing the 12-15s here since the summer and I’ve not heard much protesting about it.
But jabbees I’ve spoken to about these things are aware that they can still catch and pass on the bat plague and like obedient children take a test if they have a sniffle. And look somewhat bemused when relaying a story of someone who became very ill or died, despite being vaxxed.
They remind me of those people you see on those tv programmes about people who have been scammed by internet romance conartists. Sending thousands to someone claiming to be some very nice Brit or American – with a Nigerian accent and poor English – and even when presented with the most incontrovertible evidence that they have been duped, still clearly *want* to believe that they have not and that the stolen picture that they have been sending money to really is the love of their life. Same scenario – people want to get back to normal, they want the vaxx to work – so it works because they’ve been told it does, the pass is necessary because it will keep us all safe – even though rationally they know full well this is all nonsense.
Playing devil’s advocate here…… Looking at the 60-69 age bracket, cases 314/100k, hospitalisation 32/100k and deaths 20/100k. On the face of it, for fearful 60-69 year olds. the jab looks a good choice if you think you’re going to be a case in the first place.
Is it possible that this un-jabbed older population is made up of two distinct groups?
One group being the healthy awkward squad who never get tested, barely notice the sniffles, keep fit and healthy and take responsibility for themselves and never become a “case”.
The other group being the “too ill to jab” or contra-indicated because of other medical conditions and are likely to get tested regularly.
Both are made up of very small numbers.
I suppose I’m saying, is it possible that, whilst younger un-jabbed age groups are a real mix, this older un-jabbed group members is made up of polar opposites.
To understand better we would indeed need to know more detail about the health profile of those hospitalised and dying from/with covid as they are fairly small groups and outcomes depend enormously on underlying state of health
Time for certain politicians to wake up. Some of them are deliberately attempting to impose policies built on a lie, in effect (so called ‘passports’, e.g.). To my mind, anything done that way is invalid, and unsupportable. If they were honest, they’d have to admit that their project appears to have failed, but no doubt they will try bamboozle their way out of it.
So seasonality kicks in and shows it up for the sham it is !!
Well, if you had the vaccination and you were a horse in a horse race, then with the Pfizer jab you had an 0.84% chance of winning the race and Covid had a 99.16% chance of winning the race and with odds like that, I would bet my bundle on Covid and not you (much laughter)
As you might say, 6,500 doctors can’t be wrong: Former Pfizer VP: 0.84% ‘Clear evidence of fraud’ in Pfizer study claiming 95% efficacy
posted by Mordechai Sones September 30, 2021 10:58 am
America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) Chief Science Officer Dr. Michael Yeadon yesterday said there is “clear evidence of fraud” in the Pfizer study that purports to claim 95% efficacy in their COVID-19 “vaccine”.
Yeadon was commenting on an article appearing in The Lancet and critiquing a documentary that scrutinized a Pfizer efficacy study, calling the distinction raised therein between relative risk reduction and absolute risk reduction “accurate”.
The Lancet article, entitled COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and effectiveness—the elephant (not) in the room, says that although attention has focused on vaccine efficacy and comparing the reduction of the number of symptomatic cases, “fully understanding the efficacy and effectiveness of vaccines is less straightforward than it might seem. Depending on how the effect size is expressed, a quite different picture might emerge.”
The article continues: “Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines.
“However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.”
“Pfizer reported that its vaccine showed a 95% efficacy,” explained the documentary, entitled COVID Shot or Not? “That sounds like it protects you 95% of the time. But that’s not actually what that number means.
“That 95% refers to the ‘relative risk reduction’ (RRR), but it doesn’t tell you how much your overall risk is reduced by vaccination. For that, we need ‘absolute risk reduction’ (ARR).
“In the Pfizer trial, 8 out of 18,198 people who were given the vaccine developed COVID-19. In the unvaccinated placebo group, 162 people out of 18,325 got it, which means that even without the vaccine, the risk of contracting COVID-19 was extremely low, at 0.88%, which the vaccine then reduced to 0.04%.
“So the net benefit, the absolute risk reduction, that you are being offered in the Pfizer vaccine in 0.84%
“That 95% number? That refers to the relative difference between the 0.88% and 0.04%. That’s what they call ‘95% relative risk reduction’. And relative risk reduction is well-known to be a misleading number, which is why the FDA recommends using absolute risk reduction instead. Which begs the question: How many people would have chosen to take the COVID-19 vaccines, had they understood that they offered less than 1% benefit?”
In response, Dr. Yeadon said: “It’s worse, actually. In the Pfizer study from which the 95% claim comes, there’s clear evidence of fraud.
“Why do I say that? Well, a study which is properly blinded means neither the subject, the study director, nor any other actor knows what each patient has received.
“Patients in clinical trials are obligated to follow ‘the protocol’, which specifies must-dos & prohibitions.
“If it’s blind to the end, how could one group end up with five times as many subjects having their data pulled prior to statistical analysis in the test group compared with the control group?”
Yeadon expanded: “The story of how a large state within India solved its COVID-19 crisis is no surprise to those of us who’ve known since spring 2020 that our governments, media, and tech titans have been acting against our interests, both health as well as democratic.
“We’ve known, for example, that highly qualified physicians and scientists are well able to treat and save most people infected by SARS-CoV-2.
“The methodology is simple: Attack the virus and the inflammatory and ultimately thrombotic disease phases rationally by administering targeted, multi drug treatments.
Not enough room for the whole post, but I’m sure you get the idea
Richard
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The assumption is that the only way to deal with Covid, is after it arrives as Covid in your body, after the initial cold infection, in your head, some 20 days earlier
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Then the purpose and functions of the vaccines, ceases to be a problem and you simply can’t get sick and won’t ever get Covid.
Mix one heaped teaspoon of “iodine” table or sea salt in a mug of warm or cold “clean” water, cup a hand and pour some of the solution in, then sniff or snort that mugful up into your nose, spitting out everything which comes down into your mouth, from the back of your throat, by so doing, you flush out your nasal cavity, where Coronavirus lives.
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This nasal rinse plus gargling has been recommended by many eminent medics for all clinical staff.
Interesting. When I was a small boy at boarding school, when Macmillan was PM, we all had a compulsory gargle of purple permanganate of potash every winter morning. I also had some condition for which a salt water gargle was prescribed by the school doctor. I don’t recall any outbreaks of anything, even when we were frozen in for weeks in the 62-63 winter. However, living conditions, both at school and at home, were rather more Spartan than nowadays, and it was usual to wake up to frost over the inside of the dormitory windows.
Started doing this a few years ago, although not very consistently.
Last time I had a cold which I knew was definitely a beginning cold, was February 2020, after a flight (always get a cold after a flight in winter).
Because it was early days of the lurgi and I was concerned, I was more consistent with the gargling. Woke up Sunday morning with sore throat and clogged nose, after the salt water regime, woke up Monday with everything clear.
Since then, any time something seemed like the onset of a cold I immediately use the salt water. No cold in the last year and a half. Have been out and about, no mask wearing.
Vaxxed Delta Pilot Dies In-Flight; Southwest Flights Have Mass Cancellations
· October 12, 2021
Reports of hundreds of canceled Southwest flights have been met with all kinds of excuses, and Stew Peters says somebody’s lying.
It’s not bad weather, like Southwest claims, he says. And, it’s not FAA problems either, because they say there haven’t been any air traffic control problems that would cause massive flight cancellations, despite reports that air traffic control agents walked off the job in Jacksonville, Florida, in protest of vaccine mandates. So what is it? Other airlines didn’t have mass cancellations.
Peters says it’s probably the vaccine mandates that Southwest just laid down for all personnel — and, he says, “there are reports that pilots are joining the resistance as well” even though the pilots’ union denies it.
Adding to the scandal are reports of a Delta pilot who died in-flight within the last 10 days. The co-pilot said he just suddenly died. The co-pilot also shared that the pilot said he’d just gotten his second COVID shot a few days earlier.
“It’s much bigger than people think,” the co-pilot allegedly said. Not only that flights are being diverted due to pilots with chest pains. A passenger with chest pains forced an emergency landing, too. A Seattle-based pilot was found dead on his floor from an embolism; flight attendants are not returning to active duty in “droves” following their shots; two were found dead after their shots. Plus, seven Atlanta-based flight attendants have already had breakthrough infections.
A vaccinated pilot got a breakthrough infection and died of kidney failure. And the reports just keep coming in, with the airlines keeping their communications sealed. So what’s happening here? “A pilot is dead and the media completely whitewashes the whole thing,” Peters says.
SOURCE: Stew Peters Show October 11, 2021
Mercola
Me: Aircraft are starting to crash more frequently, it is just not known the cause of those crashes, but was the pilot vaccinated?
When a jet fighter pilot has a heart problem and blacks out, or dies, their plane, going bloody fast, will crash, killing everyone on the ground nearby and wipe a multi million dollar jet off the list of assets – a lot like the trucks in “Highway Through Hell”, so imagine what it would be like when a vaccinated truck driver suddenly dies behind the wheel of his huge truck, while driving……or car drivers, or…?
And this is why – regarding next post: Army Doctor & Aerospace Medicine Specialist LTC. Theresa Long Calls On Pentagon To Ground ALL Pilots That Have Taken COVID Shots
Added by Johanna Anim Caviezel on September 28, 2021.
Lieutenant Colonel Theresa Long, who is an Army Doctor and Aerospace Medicine Specialist, provided an affidavit in which she recommends the Secretary of Defense to ground all pilots that have received the COVID shots.
The affidavits reads in full below. Do a search of this article for the word “pilot” and you will notice the petition of LTC. Long in point 39 below.
I, Lieutenant Colonel Theresa Long, MD, MPH, FS being duly sworn, depose and state as follows:
1. I make this affidavit, as a whistle blower under the Military Whistleblower Protection Act, Title 10 U.S.C. § 1034, in support of the above referenced MOTION as expert testimony in support thereof.
2. The expert opinions expressed here are my own and arrived at from my persons, professional and educational experiences taken in context, where appropriate, by scientific data, publications, treatises, opinions, documents, reports and other information relevant to the subject matter and are not necessarily those of the Army or Department of Defense.
Experience & Credentials
3. I am competent to testify to the facts and matters set forth herein. A true and accurate copy of my curriculum vitae is attached hereto as Exhibit A.
4. After receiving a bachelor’s degree from the University of Texas Austin, completed my medical degree from the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston Medical School in 2008. I served as a Field Surgeon for ten years and went on to complete a residency in Aerospace and Occupational Medicine at the United States Army School of Aviation Medicine, Fort Rucker, AL. I hold a Master’s in Public Health, and I have been trained by the Combat Readiness Center at Ft. Rucker as an Aviation Safety Officer. Additionally, I have trained in the Medical Management of Chemical and Biological Causalities at Fort Detrick and USAMIIRD.
5. I am board certified in flight Aerospace Medicine and board eligible in Occupational Medicine.
6. I am currently serving as the Brigade Surgeon for the 1st Aviation Brigade Ft. Rucker, Alabama and am responsible for certifying the health, mental and physical ability, and readiness for all nearly 4,000 individuals on flight status on this post.
7. My appended curriculum vitae further demonstrates my academic and scientific achievements by me over the past thirteen years.
8. Prior to the outset of the pandemic, I received specialized military training from Infectious Disease doctors from the Army, Navy and Air Force on emerging infectious disease threats, FEMA training, Emergency preparedness training, Medical effects of Ionizing Radiation, OSHA, Aerospace Toxicology, Epidemiology, Biostatistics, medical research and disaster planning. More recently I have functioned as a medical and scientific advisor to an Aviation training Brigade seeking to identify risk mitigation strategies, and bio statistical analysis of SARS- Cov-2 (“Covid 19”) infections in both vaccinated and unvaccinated Soldiers. In so doing, I have identified, diagnosed and treated Covid 19 pathogenic infections. I have observed vaccine adverse events following the administration of EUA vaccines, and followed the success of Soldiers who obtained various Covid 19 therapies outside the military. The majority of the service members within the DOD population are young and in good physical condition. Military aviators are a subset of the military population that has to meet the most stringent medical standards to be on flight status. The population of student pilots I take care of are primarily in their 20s-30s, males and in excellent physical condition. The risk of serious illness or death in this population from SARs-CoV-2 is minimal, with a survival rate of 99.997%.
9. In observing, studying and analyzing all the available data, information, samples, experiences, histories and results of these treatments and inoculations provided, I have formulated a professional opinion, which requires me to report those findings to superiors in the chain of command and colleagues in the military. I have done so with mixed results in terms of acceptance, rejection and threats of punishment for so sharing.
10. The application of risk management is critical to the safety and success in both medicine and aviation. Aerospace Medicine is a specialty devoted to safety of flight by the aeromedical dispositioning and treatment of flight crew members, as accomplished by the consistent and careful application of risk mitigation and management strategies. ATP 5-19, 1-3. Risk Management (RM)1 outlines a disciplined approach to express a risk level in terms readily understood at all echelons.
More, but not enough space to post it all, but you get the idea, I expect
Richard
Dr Ugur Sahin, the COVID-19 vaccine he designed for Pfizer was designed in just few hours in a single day on January 25, 2020.
No other vaccine in history has been created and manufactured so quickly. Previously, the fastest vaccine ever developed took more than four years.
co-founder of BioNTech
Not only that, Pfizer Chairman (((Albert Bourla))) hasn’t gotten around to having his shot, or Dr Ugur Sahin, last I knew.
And it went from laboratory straight into human arms without any animal testing first – mRNA never used in humans ever before – doesn’t that strike you as odd?
Have you noticed how all new vaccines and medications are going from Laboratory into human arms without animal testing now, that is because the Pfizer vaccine, above, set a prescedent and everyone has jumped on the bandwaggon and is doing the same thing – no testing – massive profits immediately and more instant billionaires at the cost of you who stupidly take their concoctions, or are forced too by Biden.
And the latest from my mate who informed me last week that he was really really really ill with the vid… He could barely stand up or breathe!
Today’s update?
“it’s a good job I had been double vaxxed because… thankfully I only got a mild dose”
He can’t wait for his booster top-ups!
Is this to be the next phase of the psy-op? We the great un jabbed continuing to spread our filth, transmitting and trying to kill the jabbies through their jab shields.
Never forget Bob. He’s a proper bad arse!
Jim Bruer uses satire beautifully, to sum up the world we currently occupy. I love this and it’s a much-needed breath of fresh air…
https://youtu.be/GRv7gMCsTjU
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Other venues are available all over the country but you won’t find their details on MSM.
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So we know, as fact, that the lust for a “vaccine passport” is nothing to do with infection control, at all. In fact, it’s 109% not infection control.
Which leaves a rather difficult question for those who think our government is simply incompetent or misguided, and who have shied away from the most malign explanations given by “conspiracy theorists”, doesn’t it?
If the green cards aren’t about virus control, what are they for? And what on earth are the “vaccines”?
The trillion dollar question. My wife gets irritated with me constantly trying to work this out but I need to know! In order to prepare accordingly…
The vaccines reduce your risk of severe disease, albeit only temporarily. The passes are to encourage people who took the vaccines to mingle and get infected with the real thing, yielding long-term immunity. They are also there to keep away the unvaccinated, whose higher risk makes it more likely that they end up in ICU and clog the hospitals for everyone else.
There, I worked it out for you.
Absolute nonsense.
Hold on a second … dailysceptic – you are doing a bit of cherry picking yourself now. While the above is correct and taken from the report – the report also shows that those that are vaccinated are less likely to die – if I am lookng at it correctly. (see attached image)
So – like all of these topics – it is important to take a broad view and consider all of the factors and information.
All that said – I still belive that vaccination should be a personal, and hopefully well informed choice..
It’s a very small sample size, a very small absolute risk and we don’t know the underlying health of those involved. Hard to draw firm conclusions.
Yes, this is the one glimmer of usefulness that believers cling on to, except that the data also implies that many less people would actually contract the disease in a vaccination-less society which would surely reduce the hospitalisations and deaths? What a mess!
In the future we un-jabbed may need to get ourselves ‘passports’ to show that we are ‘clean’, so that those un-jabbed who have not had covid can be at less risk from the jabbed who are spreading this virus.
Yep I can also see us being the only ones wearing masks too! Not the leopard print fashion type though, more of a hazmat suit!
This update has been clear throughout that the vaccines seem to be holding up in terms of preventing deaths. That efficacy seems to be weakening by the week, however. Regardless, if there are twice the number of infections in vaxed as opposed to unvaxed, as there are in forty year olds, vaccine passports are patently absurd.
lds001: looks like you didn’t read the whole post. If you had clicked ‘Read More’ then you would have seen that there was not cherrypicking. Even without clicking the ‘Read More’ the table showed the rates for hospitalization and death.
If you read the whole post you will see that there are three charts with coloured lines showing vaccine effectiveness for infection, hospitalization and death over time.
Plus there is the statement “Vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation and death continues to hold up in all age groups, though with some signs of decline, particularly among older people.”
I think, therefore, that your comments about cherrypicking are very wide of the mark since the data was fully given for hospitalization and deaths.
Moreover, given the context, it is not cherrypicking to point out something very unusual in the data, viz that rates of infection in many age groups are much higher in the vaccinated that the unvaccinated. That is a truly astonishing observation, as is the admission (which I have pointed out many times) that even Pfizer themselves, in their submission to the FDA on September 17, stated that their vaccine effectiveness had declined so fast over a few months in Israel that it was ‘not statistically significantly different from zero’.
A large study in Qatar also showed 0.0% after 20 weeks, but that was because the authors chose not to report a negative efficacy: all negatives were reported as zero. However, the data in that study showed that vaccine effectiveness turned negative 16% after 20 weeks from second dose and thereafter stayed negative. In other words, after 20 weeks a vaccinated person was more likely to become infected than if they had never been vaccinated.
This is what we are seeing in the UK data, where because the vaccine was rolled out by age, the age group that is turning negative is getting increasingly younger as their 20 weeks from second dose comes around.
So now all the vaccinated are on a treadmill: they must keep having more doses every six months to stop themselves being worse off, in respect of infection, than the unvaccinated.
BigPharma, with governments, BigTech and the media are the drug pushers, and the population have become the drug addicts in what is an abusive relationship.
Even if that is true it’s largely irrelevant to the main issue we all have with the vaccine. I have no problem with anyone taking whatever drug they want if they want to – I have a massive problem with being told I have to take it.
If you still spread C19 when vaccinated – and particularly if you are more likely to spread it – then vaccine passports are not only unnecessary but actively dangerous.
if you want to trade a very low, known risk of Covid for a completely unknown risk of vaccine injury then that’s your call – but the case that I should have to do the same should now be dead in the water
Less likely to die if you don’t get it in the first place though
Just extend the y-axis to 100,000, and you will get the true picture of the differences, which are minute. That’s why the absolute risk reduction figure is vitally important.
I think last week the ARR for my cohort was 0.00023%.
This is exactly the whole point of vaccination, to get the vaccinated infected without ending up in hospital. But the “sceptics” just don’t want to understand, and the vaccine pushers are too concerned to communicate it clearly – because it would sort of undo their former lies about how vaccines reduce infections.
I have no issue with people wanting to be vaccinated, I just don’t need or want it myself and I shouldn’t be punished for that because the vaccines don’t stop people getting or transmitting covid.
Dear Will
Questioning the value of vaccination of those at very low personal risk from COVID (e.g. younger people) is a very worthwhile thing to do, and I applaud your sceptical approach in this regard.
However, several things
1 So boosters then?
The data you present here makes the case for booster shots IF you want to reduce infection as well as death & hospitalisation. Protection against infection dropping fairly quickly as the months go by has long been known, and is key in the drug companies booster justifications. The acceptance of the booster program is one of the Governments policy responses to this data. I.e. when you say ‘There is still nothing from Government sources acknowledging this failure of the vaccines against infection, its implications for policy and analysing what might be behind it’ this isn’t true regarding cause or policy adjustment.
I suspect some of your readers might not have twigged you are here implicitly supporting the boosters.
2 Figure 2 rates by vaccination status
You present this graph implicitly as a gotcha, which appears to have been misinterpreted by some readers as showing that getting a vaccine makes you more likely to catch COVID. This is partly aided by no interpretation given by you other than you claim it shows ‘this failure of the vaccines against infection’ – which is far too broad a conclusion, especially since you acknowledge infection is protected against for a time.
This graph begs explanation doesn’t it? Why are there such big differences between the age groups? The simplistic ‘time since last dose’ doesn’t answer it, since while under 18’s (most recent dose) have massively lower rates in vaccinated, the high rate in vaccinated peaks in 40-49 then drops again – and the booster programme I would suppose not had significant effect yet?
A possible explanation (and I’m guessing) is currently I believe the UK has massive infection rates in secondary schools, and parents of school age children are commonly in the 40-49 bracket. I’m not sure what this might mean, but a wild speculation: 40-49 year olds with kids in secondary school might have been more likely to get vaccinated (social pressure?) and are now much more likely to have recently been infected (via their kids). I.e. the infection rate difference might be explained by differences in the population behaviours.
There’s always the old saw that vaccinated people might be slightly more likely to engage in transmission risky behaviour, but no idea about that and doesn’t have an obvious age bracket implication anyway.
3 Infections are not the only fruit
As you know, the vaccines might have multiple beneficial effects, and crucial questions are to what extent they have these effects relative to a natural infection. Aka ‘would it just be better if everyone caught COVID now?’, which appears in effect the current UK strategy.
Also crucially, how does this change over time. I.e. it makes a very big difference if the vaccines a) NEVER reduce transmission compared to b) they reduce it by X% for 1 month, Y% for 3 months, etc.
I.e. the extent to which the different vaccines:
(Etc, you get the idea)
All relative to natural infection
Though you don’t say so in the blog post, your comment
gives away your view that the only criteria that matters when considering vaccine passports (and also presumably mandates?) is infection rate. Even in young people with tiny risk of death, what if transmission rates are halved by vaccination for 4 months? And as you acknowledge, vaccines DO protect against infection for a period, which (obviously) reduces transmission.
I.e. your implied conclusion in the blog post about vaccine requirements (made explicit in the comments) does not necessarily follow from the data you present, and indeed the data presented suggests they might be a good thing given protection against infection is seen in this data for a time.
N.b. I’m not saying I’m for or against any vaccine requirements, but making hopefully constructive points on this topic.
I am not sure about your theory here:
A possible explanation (and I’m guessing) is currently I believe the UK has massive infection rates in secondary schools, and parents of school age children are commonly in the 40-49 bracket. I’m not sure what this might mean, but a wild speculation: 40-49 year olds with kids in secondary school might have been more likely to get vaccinated (social pressure?) and are now much more likely to have recently been infected (via their kids). I.e. the infection rate difference might be explained by differences in the population behaviours.
You could well be right about the cause of a high infection rate among a demographic that is likely to have teenage children. However, why would the infection rate differ between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated? The children of both groups go go school, and the children of both groups bring it home again.
A biological explanation should not be dismissed. ADE, or vaccine enhanced infection, could well be age dependent due to immunosenesence which means an antibody response – either protective or enhancing – is stronger in younger age groups.
This is masked at the moment in younger age groups as their neutralising antibody titres are higher, because their jabs were more recent on average. But my prediction is that first the 30-somethings and then the 20-somethings are going to see FAR higher infection rates in the vaccinated cohorts by year end.
Ah.PS. You say here:
Your article above states ‘vaccine effectiveness continues to drop’.
If it drops, it must have existed yes?
Your article’s entire point is that the vaccines DO stop people getting COVID but this protection then drops (pretty rapidly). The surveillance report you link to gives the figures for this. So it’s not much of a secret is it?
As such your comment here doesn’t seem to make sense? Unless your point is unless vaccines provide protection against infection forever they are useless? Clearly that can’t be your point.
An article on vaccine effect on COVID transmission also welcome.
Of course limited duration of protection matters: it totally shifts the risk benefit ratio.
These vaccines are emphatically not side effect free. They are among the most dangerous vaccines I have ever seen, with a profile you might accept in the midst of a raging Ebola pandemic, but not for something with a 99.7% survival rate.
To accept this risk for protection that lasts mere weeks (2-3 weeks post second vaccination until perhaps 5-6 months post vaccination) is nuts. And increasingly nuts the younger and healthier you are.
Mandating this risk, or coercing people into taking it, is patently insane.
Rayc, if that is true, why are they aiming to vaccinate children? Their risk of hospitalisation with COVID is de minimus
Their risk of hospitalisation with the vaccine is higher.
I think the point is
1) small numbers – There is a risk in over interpretation
2) but accepting it is true, and the jabs – temporarily at least – reduce the likelihood of hospitalisation and death from COVID, is this sufficient to outweigh the hospitalisation and death we are seeing from vaccine side effects? That we are in a period of sustained excess non COVID mortality suggests they do not.
The PHE document has some strange things.
They say 65% had at least one dose, 97% have antibodies yet only 19% of these antibodies come from infection alone.
They say that the vaccine prevents infection yet apart from the young, recently vaccinated, their figures show the opposite.
They say that the vaccine prevents transmission, and that there is no transmission without infection, yet their figures demonstrate that vaccination must therefore increase the chances of transmission.
And finally they do not consider whether vaccination itself, which after all creates parts of the virus, does not result in positive PCR tests. This in itself would create an large increase in false positives in the vaccinated, thereby suppressing their rates of hospitalisation and death. This would make it appear that the vaccine is effective in the most important categories.
Anyone remember when Grant Schapps ‘misspoke’ on the bbc and said fully vaccinated are much more likely to get and carry covid. Well I guess we know this was a Freudian slip and not misspeaking as Full Fact claims lollll check it:
https://fullfact.org/health/grant-shapps-video/
The clip in question: https://www.facebook.com/chrispreddie/videos/589147822248098/
There is still nothing from Emperor sources acknowledging this failure of the new clothes against nudity, its implications for policy and analysing what might be behind it.
Look, new clothes don’t work 100% of the time and they were never meant to provide absolute skin concealment. The important thing is to remember to wear your new clothes; that way I won’t have to walk around naked.
My lovely neighbour, 44, is a care worker for adults with mental health issues. A few weeks ago, she felt a bit rough and tested positive for Covid. Her husband, who had been ill the previous week and her son also tested positive. Both adults had been double jabbed.This morning she told me that she had had her booster shot. I asked if all the care workers at her place of work had been vaccinated, because otherwise they were likely to be sacked in November. She didn’t know about the other workers’ vaccination status and wasn’t even aware that any unjabbed are likely to be fired come November!
A few weeks ago, I asked my MP to find out why the government had cancelled the Valneva vaccine order. This is the one based on the whole inactivated virus rather than just the spike protein. The government had given two excuses for this cancellation; one that the company had breached its contract agreement, which Valneva strongly denied and the other, from Javid, saying that the vaccine would not have gained approval from the JVCI. This latter statement was later changed in the records to “had not yet gained approval…….and may not”
Having replied that if the opportunity arose, he would raise it. OH told my MP that this wasn’t a good enough response, so we now have an appointment with him at the end of November to discuss the matter. This, of course, will probably be cancelled in the light of yesterday’s appalling tragedy.
“yesterday’s appalling tragedy”
The real “appalling tragedy” (as opposed to one-off unpredictable, sad, incident) yesterday was the continuing preventable growth of waiting lists and undiagnosed critical disease, child abuse, and deterioration in the nation’s collective mental health.
The stats for the under-18s are interesting too.
Somebody who was in favour of 100% of people being vaccinated commented to me recently that the fact that in the under-18 age group the infections are occurring principally in the unvaccinated, proves the efficacy of the vax for this age group.
However, this is unlikely to be true, since that data is much more likely to be simply a reflection of the proportion of that age group who have had a vaccine, which is tiny compared to those who haven’t.
It’s like saying that in a controlled trial of 100 people, 90 of whom were female and the remaining 10 were male, the results showed that infections showed up mostly females, and therefore females were more susceptible to infection. But probability law indicates that the greater level of infection in that group happens by default because there are more of them!
In most OTHER age groups, however, since most of these have been vaccinated, the bar graph above is a more effective gauge of vaccine efficacy.
Of course, this is only a surveillance of how effective the jab is against INFECTION, and not against severe expression of the disease (where we know it works well). And we have to remember that for under-18s infection with Covid is almost entirely inconsequential.
Also, this cross-sectional report by PHE should be the best ammunition yet against the case for vaccine passports!
The first and most talked-about venue for the proposed introduction of vaccine passports is nightclubs. Assuming the clientele of a night club is on average between 18 and 50 years of age, averaging the same data (above) for the three age groups between 18 and 49, gives a net result of negative efficacy for the vaccines. So a according to PHE official data, vaccine passports would actually INCREASE infection rates in nightclubs, and by extension, anywhere that attracts people of these age groups!
…’ and not against severe expression of the disease (where we know it works well).’
Do we know that?
For this coming Halloween I’m going to put on a very scary costume. It’ll be a tee shirt with ‘UNVACCINATED’ on it, on the back I may have “I vont to kill your granny”.
I can hear the screams now.
Track and treat
From our critical thinking friends from across the pond:
“The Unvaccinated Are Looking Smarter Every Week”
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/the_unvaccinated_are_looking_smarter_every_week.html
If we can see this, so can Whitty, Vallance, Boris, Starmer, Many Many MP’s, Journalists & the rest of the snake oil salesmen aided & abetted by the MSM, But they don’t give a HOOT! do you know why? Because, we take it! & The More we take, the more they will SHOVIN ! That’s How it works.
Do any of these claims that the jabs have reduced hospitalisations and deaths take into account the fact that it appears that the virus has mutated into a much milder form than the Wuhan virus of last March/April?
Can’t remember where I read it but someone described the current situation as fighting this year’s war with last year’s weapons, which I thought hit the nail on the head.
It may be milder unless you have been jabbed and of course there is nothing mild about myocarditis and lots of the other nasties that are vaccine caused.
Is it milder? Or is it being treated better (less ventilators, people not being sent to care homes and pumped with midazolam)?
This seems misleading, possibly deliberately. The percentages given are only valid if the proportion of vaccinated versus unvaccinated tested are given and are the same. As there is a far higher proportion of vaccinated in all adult age groups, I suspect the percentages would be quite different if adjusted to take that into account. The numbers would still be far worse than those of the vaccine producers, but not as bad as suggested in this article.
I read it as being per 100k. So in the age range under discussion, 40-49, a shade under 1500 per 100k are ‘infected’; compared with c700 per 100k unjabbed. So exactly as suggested in this article.
Mind you, what do I know? I’m just an alleged granny killer.
Zoe highlighted the trend months ago and was immediately got at.
I saw some PHE figures that made it clear the vaxxed were having higher infections and hospitalisations and even in some age cohorts death, per 100,000, than the unvaxxed, in some age cohorts, per 100,000. As the inference here was so anti-narrative, they decided to switch the denominator from NIMS to ONS or vice versa, to manipulated them back around the way they wanted. Either way, vax not making much of a difference. And to be honest, why would it? It reduced an individual’s personal risk of severe disease and death by 0.8%.
I guess it is just a technicality, since it is really just another lie, but can anybody figure out how, even in fantasy world, they got to a totally implausible figure of 24m infections prevented by the vaccinations, to date. just out of interest you understand.
So far as I can work it out, Professor Pants/Lock Down read it in the entrails of his breakfast egg and soldiers one morning.
Sorry for the stupid question, but could somebody please explain these data? I can see that vaccine effectiveness against infection seems to decline over time (for people aged 30+). But how many months after vaccination do the above figures represent?
It is going to vary. Oldest people, about 10 months now. Younger people, 3-4 months. Which is why they look like they still work in the under 30s. In about a month, that will start to switch is my guess, just as it did a month ago with the people in their 30s.
The unvaccinated are able to mount a full, broad spectrum defence against Delta, whereas the vaccinated are reprogrammed to fight the original strain. In some cases this works, in others not so well. As the virus mutates further away from the original strain, and at the same time vaxxed immunity wanes, the vaccinated will be considerably more prone to infection than the healthy unvaxxed.
Sadly, because the fascist global state doesn’t give a damn about your health, they have failed to communicate this to the plebs.