Among the more reliable guides to the real prevalence of COVID-19 are the data collected on antibodies acquired following infection (measured as N-antibody levels, in contrast to S-antibody levels, which are acquired from both infection and vaccination).
Below is the latest graph from the UKHSA showing how antibody levels in blood donors in England have changed since autumn 2020.
From this and earlier UKHSA/PHE reports we can infer that the first wave infected around 5.7% of the population (though data from this period is mixed, with some showing up to 8.3%), the Alpha wave infected around 9.9% (perhaps a bit less if you use a higher first wave estimate – either way the first two waves together infected around 16%), the Delta wave infected around 8% and the Omicron wave has infected around 21.4% (so far). On these data, around 45% of the country have now been infected at least once at some point during the four Covid waves. Note this doesn’t allow for any waning of infection-acquired antibodies, which would mean these are lower-bound estimates.
Dr. Clare Craig dug into the figures to see how this broke down by age, producing this chart.
What lies behind the differences in the sizes of these waves – is it differences in the variants and susceptibility to them, seasonal changes, the effectiveness of restrictions, the impact of vaccination, or something else?
Most likely it’s a combination. The winter waves (Alpha and Omicron) are both larger than the non-winter waves, for example, suggesting a role for seasonality.
It’s hard to read much into the role of restrictions on these data. For both the first wave and Alpha wave, lockdowns were imposed at a time when new infections appeared to be peaking – though how far that was a result of voluntary behaviour change is a matter of debate. Importantly, there was no Alpha exit wave as restrictions were eased (this was true in other jurisdictions as well), indicating that it was not restrictions that were preventing the spread. The Delta wave occurred at a time when restrictions were being lifted, yet it remained relatively small. The Omicron wave had only light measures (mask mandate, vaccine passports and work-from-home guidance) implemented in response. It’s hard to see much of a pattern here.
What about vaccination? The Delta wave is smaller than the Alpha wave, which may be thought to reflect vaccine protection. However, UKHSA data from the period show that reported infection rates during the wave were often higher in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. In the large Omicron wave, too, reported infection rates have been far higher in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. This suggests the large size of the Omicron wave may be due to vaccination making people more susceptible to the variant. However, the Delta wave, where the vaccinated also reported higher infection rates, was relatively small, so the intrinsic transmissibility of Omicron (or increased susceptibility of the population to it) may have played a part, alongside a seasonal effect.
I think the big story here is the large size of the Omicron wave (nearly three times the size of the Delta wave, and still going) despite coming at a time when most of the country had been vaccinated, 99% of the adult population had Roche S antibodies (from vaccination or infection) and 24% had Roche N antibodies (from infection). The variant’s partial evasion of natural immunity may have played a part; however, note that the large increase in antibody prevalence indicates it was infecting a considerable number of people (over a fifth of the population) who hadn’t caught Covid before – a greater number than in each of the earlier waves. The fact that the infection rates appear to have been much higher in the vaccinated raises questions about the role of the vaccines in driving this.
Consider that if (as some UKHSA data suggest) the vaccinated have twice the infection rate of the unvaccinated (or more), then if the vaccinated had the same infection rate as the unvaccinated the size of the wave would almost halve in size (as most people are vaccinated). That would make it a similar size to the earlier waves – much as it was in lightly-vaccinated South Africa.
South Africa has also not seen a new surge associated with the now-dominant BA.2 variant in the way the U.K. has in recent weeks. Does this give a clue to what is going on?
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It has become clear over several days that this was never going to happen.
Clearly unacceptable politically, morally, legally and in terms of staff logistics.
Same applies to any discussion suggesting that several million of us will be compelled to be boosted just to retain the privilege of being designated “fully vaxxed”.
It will happen, over time, by increments. This is how the regime implements its agenda. They have said time and again that they fully intend to place the whole world onto an experimental medical program. Everyone except the elite that is.
We are being slowly boiled like frogs. When they fear we might jump out of the pot, they turn the heat down until we feel more comfortable, then wait awhile before turning it up every so slowly once more.
Its time you, and others on this site, woke up to this fact.
Pretty much.
I am the final revolution.
What they are trying to make happen and what will happen aren’t necessarily the same things. Far too many frogs have spotted the thermostat now.
Unarmed frogs.
Not necessarily so Mr DoubleF ……
Love this! Thank you artfelix.
i have often thiught that humanity does not just take any old shit whatever the supposed plan or reset etc .If some of the peopl dont want it they wont have ,Its both arrogance from power and silliness from opposition to think all of these ideas,conspracies etc will just happen becasue some blokes planned it that way .Humanity will re assert itself .Governments are about to find that out .How could this ridiculous band of petty thiefs and ponces we call a government plan and execute some of the wildly fantastic plans i have read about on this site..You know… what might happen in Holland is not going to be carbon copied in Rwanda pr Peru ,but Venuzuela might folow the same line as Poland who will comdemn Sweden and Morocco.This is a hideous phase in a political vaccum ,it politics that needs re setting not the economy.People
will, if not already, see what Covid has done or not as the case seems and then there will be nothing to base fearmongering on
A bit like that monster under the bed that scares you wtless when you are 5 and 6 but just seems silly by the time you are ten.
Gave up. Badly written.
Who are you then ??? Your resolve and stamina are poor , i sincerely hope you a not a teacher of any kind
I down ticked you, not because you’re wrong in your main assertion of what they’re doing, you’re not, but because you come across as arrogantly assuming you’re one of the few to have figured it out.
I didnt ‘arrogantly assume’ anything.
I posted in response to Karenovirus saying injecting NHS staff “was never going to happen”. So I guess this poster hasnt ‘figured it out’ at all.
I write in response to people who have, by their own words, seemingly failed to ‘figure it out’.
We are all on a learning curve. The less people there are giving the regime any benefit of doubt, the more likely we are to gain some degree of critical mass.
So how many times have you posted on this site this morning pointing out exactly what the regimes plans are?
Ive realised that we are preaching to the converted but i came across this site by chance and perhaps more will.Things do change ,i read that in 1971 51% of the UK smoked today its 14% so people do have the right and the ability to change their minds
I see you have just posted up a message here saying that in your bowling club, you are “the only pure blood out of a few hundred“.
Yet you accuse me of being ‘arrogant’ for assuming I’m “one of the few to have figured it out“.
Not only is boasting that you are the only ‘pure blood’ in the club a sure sign of arrogance, it also demonstrates that the overwhelming majority of people have not “figured it out“.
So assuming most people have not ‘figured it out‘ is not arrogance, but simply reflecting that which is plainly obvious.
Why am I arrogant for posting I’m the only ‘pure blood’ in the bowling club? I do consider myself to have ‘pure’ blood because mine hasnt been sullied by whatever poison is in the clotshots and I am the only one in the club because they told me I am and had thought to exclude me, but then thought better if it!
The post to which you refer above also asserts that more are questioning and beginning to ‘figure it out’.
He’s so unremittingly negative, I assume he’s actually working for the other side – drip, drip drip propaganda to demoralise the opposition. No doubt, he’ll respond with spluttering indignation and insults!
It’s quite amusing reding his miserable proclamations as though they are fully developed concepts.
The fact is ‘the elites’ didn’t get to where they are by not stabbing people in the back.
Gates, Bezos, Soros working together to carve up the world between them?
The whole idea is ludicrous as these monster ego’s would never listen to each other far less agree to collaborate.
The problems we face in the future are all to do with the emerging productivity and military might of China and Russia, but only because they are seizing the opportunity an increasingly WOKE and self restrictive west is offering them.
The west is creating it’s own power vacuum created, in the most part, by America’s capitulation to ideological minority groups who demand the nation changes for them instead of them adapting to a changing world.
This cancer has spread to the EU and the UK leaving societies morally and ethically rudderless. We can’t make any positive progress for fear of offending someone.
That’s not China and Russia’s fault, and it would be irresponsible of them not to step up and best represent their countries by taking advantage of it.
The fact is, the EU couldn’t work together to stop Brexit, how could they be expected to work together to take over the world?
If we are driven to communism, which is the political direction of travel for the west, it will be from within; The Long March Through the Institutions. The long term, unwritten plan by the left to seed and occupy our education and political systems with ideological principles of a ‘perfect world’.
The nice thing is, covid has done us all a bit of a favour by waking a lot of people up who would otherwise not have bothered asking questions.
Those of us who care to look, now see what’s happening in Australia and Austria etc. whilst the far left BBC sweep it all under the carpet. But political questions, hitherto far too unpopular to ask, are now being openly discussed by politicians, about Auntie and our far left education system wielding cancel culture as virtuous.
But the worm is slowly and painfully turning.
Good points.
Jockland and wales may go to communism, but never England.
To achieve keeping all the parts of Britain together we must undo the rat Tony Blairs “devolution” the far left must be hung out to dry.
Excellent post – and bang on the money
I used to think that China was knackered because of their demographics but if the West continues to hand them things on a plate, they might get away with it.
Notifying people what their plans are is not being negative, it is being helpful. But ok, shoot the messenger.
Really don’t like the term ‘pure blood’ anyway. I think it’s a silly thing to say and makes us look silly. Even if someone hasn’t had the injection, I very doubt their blood is ‘pure’ – all sorts of things can get into the bloodstream!
Criticised for sharing grounded knowledge and viewpoints – quick call the thought police. Arent you trying to undermine the whole point of message boards saying this. There are many people on here who are still locked into thinking HMG is acting honestly and making cockups etc. People need to be able to read these views, to show them how people who do not follow the word of liars and criminals reach their worldview. New readers are coming here alll the time – many do not know the background or the nefarious tactics of the kakistocracy. People – especially in the UK – are completely brainwashed by liars war criminals and nefarious governments and criminal media networks working to evil corporate agendas. Its been going on all their lives and they never noticed it.
Is it arrogant to post that or is it good to post that so people who dont realise they have been lied to their whole lives can have that thought enter their head for them to ponder. I think people need to read stuff like that. Ignorance is the main fuel for the Convid fire, so someone posting as Cornubian has is necessary and relevant.
Controllers are openly conspiring to turn populations in to mind controlled servile idiots. RFK Jr made the point recently that the average IQ in the US has dropped by seven points in the last forty odd years. This is not an accident. Its all by design.
This is an arrogant comment
Must watch Bill Grates interview here from Davos 2017. The plan is to rule the world via a relentless series of engineered fake health emergencies and all the tech and surveillance from our “friends” in the tech sector to power it all:
Bill Gates Interview at Davos January 24th 2017. All the Evidence we Need.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/57N6a5tpDiwy/
Excellent UK Column episode here with further Grates shilling for evil at the WEF around the same period:
UK Column News – 19th January 2022
https://www.bitchute.com/video/TfBf0YNEPYbb/
I do think there is some sort of experiment going on across the world to figure out which method is the best at producing the desired result (ie totalitarian dictatorship) – slowly boiling frogs as in England, iron fist as in Austria, partial iron fist as in Greece, or any one of no doubt countless other methods or permutations thereof. The UK alone seems to be doing its own mini experiment across the 4 nations. It’s clearly not about health, that’s for sure.
I think they’re mixing it up a bit so the people don’t cotton on, or so they think! If every country followed the same pattern it would be obvious as to what is going on, and the bigger agenda. At the moment it gives the appearance that governments around the world are doing “what is best” for their countries, using hyped data with the cases, to control their narrative.
great image and words, how prophetic, thank you
Where has the fight gone from these young idiots, you would not get me to partake in a medical experiment with an unknown chemical!
Wolfgang Woodarg has established beyond reasonable doubt that there is a deliberate differentiation between vaccine batches whereby the Pharma companies are trying different ‘variants’ of their experimental mRNA injections
The graphs and other evidence is compelling. Bottom line : certain batches have a massive mortality rate – others have no evident mortality effect at all.
This terrifying revelation is about to break – but not on the MSM of course . I suspect that many will have difficulty in accepting or comprehending the gravity and magnitude of the Crime Against Humanity that this reveals if verified.
Wolfgang Woodarg , who was the whistle blowing scientist who exposed the Swine Flu Scam ( which also involved Ferguson and Imperial College), has impeccable credentials. He has dissected the data and has reluctantly come to this conclusion
So if this is true, the bottom line: your survival depends on the batch number of your jab!
The information and all the solid, fully published evidence of the relationship between vaccine batches and deaths is now before the ICC ( International Criminal Court)
Attempts by individuals to share vaccine damage experience reports result in their censorship on Social Media. Computer hacking and closing down by the authorities of those scientists blowing the whistle is rife .
So it seems that the whole world is part of one Big Pharma Gene Therapy experiment with the deaths of the gullible participants apparently not being seen as a problem…more of a “result”!
The care home workers need to be welcomed back with compensation for (1) loss of earnings (2) stress and injury to feelings
Even then, I bet most won’t come back. Why would they? They’ve been treated beyond shoddily.
Personally, and this won’t be a popular opinion, I’d let the whole system burn so people can see first hand the corruption and failure of the whole ‘health’ facade that’s been created by the medical industries and business of keeping people ‘subscribed’ rather than cured.
Our ‘wonderful’ NHS doesn’t have a business model unless people are perpetually sick and ill. Maybe it is one of those areas that needs to be destroyed before it can be ‘Built Back Better’.
Kinda agree for the NHS but not for care homes.
That’s one way, but I carries its own risk. It creates a vacuum that some people would be very happy to fill. Who are those people, and do you trust them?
The N.H.S, as well as the BBC,are among the last middle class gravy trains. They wont give it up easily.
Mandatory vaccination (or indeed any mandatory medical procedure) is ILLEGAL under Primary Legislation of the Public Health Act 1984. This was a massive game of Chicken and corruption at the highest levels. A pandemic of lies.
Marching today in Leeds to stand with NHS100K and care workers.
This isn’t about left-right. This isn’t about Unions Vs Nasty Tories. This is about Freedom. This is about Liberty herself.
And you always know a project has been canned when the only confirmation of its continuance comes from “a government source”. But I am expecting to be proved wrong; common sense, fair play, humility, reason and justice have all but died in the last 22 months …
The regime has murdered tens of thousands of UK citizens through various means, and by the regimes own report, hundreds of thousands more will die over the next 20 years due to unnecessary lockdowns. Do you seriously think they are concernhed about what is or isnt lawful?
Get your point. But aside from violent revolution (which, like the Nuclear Deterrent, should never be ruled out) the rule of law is all we have…
There never was a rule of law. Law was never there there for you. That is evident from all the recent court cases that have been summarily dismissed by the regimes judicial gatekeepers.
The legal system is there to protect the criminal parasites who are enriching themselves and their friends while leading us into destruction. The police and the army are just their henchmen. The media are their PR and their mind control tools.
It couldn’t be laid more bare for you to see.
Agreed. I can’t decide if I want to fight or run away to a so-called third world country, where at least the weather is good.
They are eventually going to enslave every human on earth, but they need to crush the West first as that is where most opposition will arise. Once we are mentally and physically beaten down, reduced to poverty, locked into their cyber prison and totally reliant on the regime for every aspect of our survival, they will move on to enslave the rest of humanity.
Most opposition is in the West? Now I start to disagree with you!
Communists need to destroy the middle classes so that only an elite and a slave class exist. The West has a thriving middle class, which must be destroyed.
“Once we are mentally and physically beaten down…they will move on to enslave the rest of humanity.”
Thing is if Churchill had had you as his speechwriter this country would have been defeated in WW2.
I prefer the attitude of: “we shall fight on the beaches we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,”
Thing is if Churchill had had you as his speechwriter this country would have been defeated in WW2…. that time was almost the polar opposite of the current situation, most people think the war is on covid and their respective government’s have done a fantastic job with the jab campaign etc,not that governments are at war against them.
Stop with the historical propaganda. The West was defeated in WWII – even Patton said we fought on the wrong side.
Look at England and the English before WWII and now.
Nearly every English city has fallen to foreign invaders – who this globalist government welcome with open arms.
Muhammed is the most popular name in England.
Its considered racist to fly the English flag in England.
Our school children are brainwashed into beliving ‘diversity is our strengh’, Islam is a ‘religion of peace’, there are 100 genders, masculinity is toxic, cow farts cause sea level rise, men can have babies, covid biggest pandemic in 100 years, women can have a penis……
Anyone stating obvious facts, voicing common sense or standing up for the rights of English people is unjustly classified a White Supremacist/ Nazi/ fascist.
The BBC and other state funded entities regularly and openly run recruitment programs that exclude straight White English people.
Even the BBC ran a story on White Flight.
The English are being systematically marginalised/disenfranchised in what was their own country.
All this, and much more, began after we lost WWII to the international clique of globalists.
Its all being done to destroy the traditional family structure, historic peoples and long standing nations in the pursuit of the NWO’s idea of ‘international communism’.
Does this taste like victory to you?
‘Muhammed is the most popular name in England.’ No it’s not, it’s about 8th depending on which source you take. .
Mohammed and it’s derivations of the name is.
If you had a time machine, went back to London on VE day 1945 and told people that in less than a lifetime the English would constitute a minority of the population of the city they’d have regarded you as a nutter.
Not in Stepney they wouldn’t.
“we fought on the wrong side.”
Nazis- have you forgotten how bad they are?
You do realise dont you that the socially corrosive ‘communistic’ forces Hitler pushed against that were established during the Weimar Republic are the same socially corrosive forces that are at work today across the West? This is why we are being slowly destroyed.
We were defeated in WW2, were were defeated when we joined to fight with the USSR.
Marching to in Liverpool. 1pm St Georges hall
Everyone is too scared to go and confront the members of the SAGE behavioural psychology unit though, the very people who have helped to remove our freedoms and liberties.
Indeed.
They know that – or at least the lawyers employed to advise the government do. That is why they have tried to circumvent the Public Health Act 1984 and our obligations under international treaties by criminalizing the employer, not the worker. There is nothing in the legislation that criminalizes the unvaccinated nurses, doctors and health workers if they continue working after April 1: it’s the employers who end up breaking the law by ‘engaging’ them or allowing them on the premises.
They are getting around the provisions, as indeed they are all over the world (with some exceptions such as Greece and Austria, where the individual is specifically targetted), by making this take effect on those operating various entities, whether it be shops, planes, hospitals or whatever, so that they can say that no one is individually being forced to take the vaccine: it is others who are being forced not to employ or grant entry to certain classes of people.
So, this is similar to the situation with illegal immigrants: it is their employer who is prosecuted if they employ them; it is lorry drivers who are prosecuted if they allow them to travel with them.
Of course, in reality the outcome is much the same. But they have cunningly drafted the legislation to deflect legal challenge as long as possible.
63 pages of PDF, care to point to where in the act this is stated?
Thanks
It is mildly comforting to know that the British establishment’s appetite for self destruction may be limited.
Unlike in places like communist China, or fascist Italy and Germany or in totalitarian Austria where the state would rather destroy itself rather than back down.
Totalitarian or fascist or communist – they’re all screwed and I feel so sad for my German friends.
The UK’s NWO branch office fully intends to implement everything witnessed overseas – but they will do it in their own way, slowly, bit by bit, over time. Its how they got us to where we are now – a captured people waiting to be fed the next crumb of comfort.
Yup. Some people have never realised that England was home to many Nazis in the Thirties…
I dont see too many people attending nationalistic rallies – so I think our problem is international communism – which was something Hitler objected to.
The Fabian BBC is in charge, they know about the long game.
Fabiansim is one of many cancers in our society.
An easy way of understanding that is to picture the backtrack on this being no sacking, but new hires all need the vax. Over time, it’s done.
Yes, there are many ways they can achieve their goal that dont involve mass sackings. They threatened mass sackings in the hope that it would leave just a small rump of resistors, but that tactic failed, so now they will move to the real ‘Plan B’, which involves picking smaller groups off a bit at a time, relocating staff to lower grades on grounds of safety, making work life difficult for resistors so they leave voluntarily, advertising posts for the complaint only and so on.
Yes, it’s very possible, even likely, that all we are witnessing in the last few days is a tactical, temporary retreat.
Yes this is definitely the case. We are never going back to normal. They have been working towards this end point for decades. They have placed all their agents into positions of power. The Long March Through The Institutions that culminated in the final 2020 coup was successful. There is no going back. .
“new internal Whitehall documents suggesting two jabs would not be enough to cope with the Omicron variant”.
I dont need regime apparatchics to tell me there is no cure for the common cold!!!
There IS a cure – bed and chicken soup!
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/food-health-you-asked/there-really-something-story-chicken-soup-good-common-cold
indeed
” . . . bed and
chicken soupLaphraoigh!”I have to disagree with you “bed and Lagavulin”
None of the above. It’s the wonderful, amazing, almost magical, human immune system, which despite doing all the heavy lifting for the last 22 months gets no respect.
Worse. It is now the official policy of several countries that Pfizer in 6 months can come up with a better immune response than the human immune system in an evolutionary process of hundreds of thousands of years.
And they call it science.
I love whisky but Laphraoigh?
I’ll keep the cold.
Each to his own huxley.
As proved by several decades of “cure for the common cold” research at Porton Down.
(Some extreme rightwing conspiracy theory nutjob misinformation merchants still trying to say that what was really being researched were Anthrax and The Black Death)
And as has been discussed many times but not so much recently – every attempt to make a Coronavirus vaccine in history failed. They have been trying to make them for decades. These things have a 100percent track record for failure, disaster, death and disease. So with that in mind, why are these criminals so hellbent on injecting everyone with something that has ONLY ever failed in animal trials and as a result never advanced beyond animal trials – mRNA and Coronavirus vaccines.
Fully documented history of this research here:
#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES
https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine
Ah well, mocking those who think human and animal medicine might overlap has become ‘quite the thing’ in some quarters. It is as if they are unaware as to just how dim they appear to anyone with even a smidgeon of knowledge. Remember all the dumb ‘horse paste’ jibes about ivermectin?
Dr Michael Palmer also covers the “Unbroken History of Failure” for mRNA jabs and “treatments” here :
mRNA Toxicity with Dr. Michael Palmer
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6WOGBnDDcHhc/
Trying to cure the common cold. I’ve said this before but will keep repeating it. I’ve often wondered whether catching one is actually beneficial.
As far as I can tell the pharmaceutical industry have so far only managed to come up with stuff that unblocks your nose, allowing you to catch another variety of virus. Great if you’re in the business of selling medicinal compounds.
Whilst I’m poking fun at the industry I would like to call into question the merits of applying underarm deodorant. I suppose one could say it’s for the greater good. But blocking up sweat glands under your arms, what harm could that possibly do I wonder??
I haven’t used deodorant in years. Maybe I am lucky that I do not seem to sweat much. As a waitress, I am conscious of odour, so I use a bit of perfume.
So much gets invented for hygiene, health, cleaning, which is totally unnecessary. Every time I see a new invention advertised on tv, I am like, oh, how did I cope without it for all this time?
Indeed. That’s why I stopped using it (except on rare occasions) many years ago. BO is mainly caused by eating pungent foods, such as garlic and onions. The reason BO has an oniony smell is that the body is trying to detox that via the medium of sweat. Also, BO tends to get trapped in the fibres of non-natural fabrics, eg nylon, acrylic etc, so wear cotton and wool only. No I’m not a doctor or scientist, but I have found this to be true over the decades.
Until late winter 2020 the word ‘Coronovirus’ was a mystery to the general public (including me and possibly must of us here) but it turns out scientists everywhere have been mucking about with it for decades.
Couple of matters arising.
Will those dismissed, because they refuse to be vaccinated, be fully eligible for unemployment benefits (Universal Credits or whatever) or will they be deemed to have made themselves ‘unemployable’ and thus only be entitled to a lesser range of financial support?
I have only recently learned that each NHS Trust is an independent employer entity in its own right. This extends to not even having a national uniform standard to indicate degrees of rank, experience or speciality training between different nurses.
In my local Trust nurse uniforms range from pale sky blue, fresh out of college with no ward/theatre experience, to heavy Navy Blue for those who used to be called Matron. Might be the other way around within a neighbouring Trust, or indeed with an overlapping Trust such as mental health which often ignore geographic boundaries of other Trusts in their Region.
Might this have an impact on the redeployment potential for those ‘let go’ in such a disgusting fashion?
The simple answer to your second question is “not much”.
They’re all CQC regulated and therefore come under the same rules.
As an aside, I am against national uniform standards and I’m against having too much uniformity in pay and banding structure. It’s too regimented in my view – it’s part of the reason I left.
Thanks for that answer and your views Tee Ell. I suppose it’s much the same for Fire & Rescue and the Police ‘Services’.
I’ve always supported as much differentiation between the latter as possible as it makes subborning them by a totalitarian government that much more difficult.
My mum wore an SRN uniform all her working life; I don’t remember much about it but she was very proud of it/them. She retired 5 years early when the bean counters took over and started posting her from pillar to post each week with no regard to her experience or expertise.
I still have her original head cap and a couple of badges, WW2 vintage.
A later one reads West Hospital Hospital “tempo fidelis”. Forever Faithful.
How things change.
The vet at Pfizer is threatening Mark II snake oil in March. For as long as there are massive sums of money and vested interests involved in the buying and selling of this stuff, there will be a constantly revolving door. This will provide an excellent means of continuing the cat and mouse, and gaslighting tactics now so dear to the medico-political cabals.
Whoever heard of a philanthropic drug pusher?
Even better for them, over the course of the last year they’ve managed to establish in the principle that they don’t need to prove it works before rolling it out. It’s now accepted by society that the population at large will take the stuff to determine whether it works or not.
Based on that now accepted principle, they can roll out as many as they like, regardless of whether they have any effect or not – as long as they can continue to sweep the collateral damage under the rug.
The regime ended the fatuously titled ‘Plan B’ controls on the following grounds:
‘We will set out our long-term strategy for living with Covid-19, explaining how we hope and intend to protect our liberty and avoid restrictions in future by relying instead on medical advances – especially the vaccines which have already saved so many lives.’
Make no mistake, our ‘freedom’ is going to be conditional on
1. EVERYONE being forced to go along with the Big Lie that we owe our lives, and ‘freedom’, to these useless injections and
2. What freedoms we have will only remain if EVERYONE is permanently subjected to experimental medical procedures of varying complexity serving a variety of different nefarious purposes.
When they withdraw our freedom again, it will be blamed on those who refuse to comply and this will be used to justify scapegoating, persecuting, firing, fining and starving remaining resistors into accepting forced experimental procedures.
I hope you’re wrong but I prepare for your being right.
Forewarned is forearmed. Johnson has repeatedly stated that he intends to inject EVERYONE on the planet. They are actually telling us time and again what they intend to do – and still people are not believing them.
No question. Heads of government are nothing more than regional managers of the WEF. The real decision makers, the Davos Oligarchs, are 100% committed to rolling out digital IDs globally and subjugating the world population via compliance with a regular pharmacological treatment regime.
Any head of government – regional manager who steps out of line risks attack and deposition by all the means at the disposal of the Oligarchs which are not few: media, technocrats, supranational organisations. They have all their attack dogs at the ready.
See how many African leaders were despatched for resisting the covid tyranny – within days of their demise, the injections were being offloaded at airports by Gates funded ‘charities’.
Where has he stated this, cornubian? I’m not saying he hasn’t, but I think if I’d heard that I would have remembered. Perhaps I missed it! Can you supply a link/video?
https://theglobalherald.com/news/boris-johnson-we-need-to-vaccinate-the-world-by-2022/
Time for politics and politicians to get out of medical delivery altogether and get back to proper politics; socialist or conservative distribution of wealth, trade war with China, reigning in the Nats, nuclear or coal, that kind of stuff.
Includes debate about socialist or privatised payment and delivery of medicine which is itself political and should be of no concern to medics except as private individuals.
Dr Steve (forgotten his surname) told Jabbit two very inconvenient FACTS.
I expect that will be the Government’s “face saver” …. they need a new all-purpose vaccine before imposing the mandate so it will all be dressed up as “following the science.” In the hope it will be quietly forgotten in a few months.
Dr Steve James
But there *is* a new all-purpose ( flu+covid+RSV ) mRNA vaccine in the works, from Moderna, and now also apparently a version from Pfizer, due out in March sometime. So the govt can relax the rules now … and bring them back when this super new improved recipe arrives.
It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out, in their desire to appease the party rebels and stop a vote of no confidence they will have to let the emergency powers ‘run out’ on the 24th March, with no emergency keeping the EUA for any vacc is going to be increasingly difficult, presumably that’s why the MHRA are currently ‘consulting’ on changing the rules for ‘trialling’ new vaccs and medications.
I don’t think they’re going to have the easy run they had in 2021introducing a new vacc…. In my area we had 87% uptake of the first two jabs but only 64% for the booster and even old biddies at my bowling club are beginning to ask me what I think about the vaccines (I’m the only pure blood out of a few hundred) and many are stating they haven’t felt well since their last one and won’t be having any more.
I think far more people are questioning the never ending round of jabs than we are aware of, mainly due to the appalling bias of reporting in the msm.
This is a good one:
Murderna….innovative malpractice
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Bam5bfjZ9ud4/
Twas always on the cards, “save the NHS” by sacking the very people who worked right through a PLANDEMIC with no coerced cytotoxin and no PPE! Now the cretinous ideology driven shit stains open Pandoras box…What about the hundreds of thousands who’ve already been coerced into accepting the jab? What about the thousands of care home staff who’ve either resigned or have been sacked? What happens when the comatose millions wake up to the fact that the cytotoxin is a ticking biological suicide belt??
Pabdora and cretin in one sentence. Used them both in my post before reading any comments to this story.
Government is considering? That sounds like an oxymoron or possibly a suggestion that it has grey matter. I’ve always assumed that it acted without any processing capacity, interesting.
not because it’s against international law then?
How many sackings does the government feel is acceptable, before it enacts illegal policy?
Its against domestic and international law, but since when have this murderous regime been concerned about law?
‘If ‘Johnson’ had any sense ……… Come on Will, when has ‘sense’ been evident from anything emerging from Downing Street? The man examples how flawed the human race is. The bloke and his lackeys are dangerous idiots. Alas the world is over populated with them as heads of Government. Nevertheless Will, keep up the good work.
Its no accident that most leaders are signed up to the Rockefeller Lockstep program. These heads of government have come through the WEFS ‘Young Global Leaders’ program. But yea, theres no conspiracy so just keep wearing the tin foil hat.
A friend of my wife has left already, so it is having an impact even now.
I am sure she/he will be gainfully employed elsewhere. People of principle are what we need.
Indeed. Those people who decided for themselves to not be jabbed are the ones I would trust with my healthcare!
Likewise a friend has left and taken a job cut but says she will never go back even if they drop the mandate because of the appalling way she was treated by her manager for not having the jab and no-one spoke up for her.
As she says, why would she want to work with people she doesn’t like and has absolutely no respect for.
1 If they don’t want to be jabbed themselves, why have they been jabbing others for over a year now?
2 As they have been jabbing others without the consent of any of those others, why are they objecting about the same being done to them?
3 Early 2021 they were demanding and lobbying to be brought forward in the schedule for being jabbed. Thereby making it crystal-clear they had decided to be jabbed. That is an irreversible decision.
% were % were not
You miss the point. The NHS is not a machine, it is made up of individuals. I doubt the majority of jabbers are unjabbed themselves.
Also, the narrative about NHS workers demanding first place in the queue probably did not come from NHS workers.
Careful there, you nearly made a sweeping generalisation.
My wife, who is a pharmacist is soon to loose her job over this. She has been asked many times to administer the poison and has refused point blank. She was even offered two grand for weekends work to jab people. Again she refused as she has a moral compass and no amount of money would make her do it.
So, i imagine the vast majority of NHS of staff that have refused the jab have done so because of ethical reasons. However I may be wrong.
My friend is a nurse working freelance for Virgin going around schools doing jabs and she has refused to inject the bioweapon.
So is she pretending and throwing the stuff away? Lying to the pupils? Or is doing other work? Then is part of it, too.
Good for your wife. Good to see some people taking a moral stance.
On the other side of the coin, I know a nurse from a GP practice who retired last year, and was then called out of retirement to go round giving jabs “to the housebound”. Which she did, and was positively crowing about it.
The housebound. Presumably quite frail to begin with, never going out, so how were they at risk? Surely it would have been better to just leave them alone?
This ain’t about health.
Good points.
A policy that can be reversed out of PR fears was never necessary to begin with, was it?
If compulsory jabs can be cancelled, why can’t ‘Covid’?
Tyrants gonna tyrannise.
The lockdown science deniers bounced HMG into believing that natural immunity was not valid and an inferior vaccine was needed for all.
now HMG has to somehow explain why it imposed national restrictions on peoples liberties based on deliberately flawed information from its trusted advisors.
if it needs to do it again it won’t be able to.
where is the popcorn.
Don’t expect retribution. Nor restitution, for that matter.
You are reading this all wrong. The regime has not imploded or capitulated. It is moving into a new phase which involves making sure everyone accepts the lie that the useless injections saved us, and to ensure we ‘stay safe’, we need to accept even more experimental medical procedures.
Big Pharma is preparing a whole load more experiments for us, including new types of nanotech injections and pills that contain chips which can be scanned to ensure compliance.
All this, and more, is waiting in the wings.
The Government aren’t going to give peoples’ freedoms back – it must be obvious by now, after 23 months. A good benchmark, as has been pointed out here, is that only when the ‘unvaccinated’ are allowed to travel to the UK without quarantine or tests of any kind will it look like being ‘all over’.
Wandering the streets of cities yelling “Freedom!” isn’t actually going to bring our freedoms back. Those on the ‘marches’ have all been filmed and filed by the Police by now, they don’t mind the protests happening as it’s good to let people blow off steam now & then. I suppose the marches could be called ‘controlled opposition’!
I think the marches have helped in many ways. They serve as a meeting point and networking opportunity for like minded people. They are a necessary visible sign of resistance. They act as a lightening rod for anger, which can spill over into violence if the regime pushes its agenda too quickly – so they act as a brake on regime excesses..
Absolutely!
I assume you are now ‘free’ over there in Finland?
I know a guy at work who always moans about all the problems and how nothing will ever change. I’m talking work stuff here, nothing whatsoever to do with lockdowns – but my point is about the psychology.
He talks about how he’s been trying to do all of these twenty things for the last 3 years, and how not a single one of them has happened. He’s right, I remember him talking about them two years ago, and none of them have happened.
I split his list down with him and extracted priorities – we’ve now done the top two on the list in about two months. I have full confidence we’ll do the other priorities by tackling them with enthusiasm and focus. The rest will get dropped, because they’re not actually important, they’re just things he likes moaning about.
If you spend all of your time moaning and act like a defeatist, impotent wreck you don’t achieve much, that is true.
If you tackle it the right way though, stuff gets done.
EF never posts, for our education, any of the solutions he has implemented over there in Finland, where he lives – almost every post is similar to the one above.
One does end up pondering his motives.
Indeed, as I pointed out months ago, a cynical person might wonder about EF’s motives (and possible employer!).
EF is a cynical person. I know plenty of people who are cynical and defeatist who are perfectly genuine. They believe they’re being realistic, and they are – they’ve seen disappointment before so they don’t want to pin their own emotional state to “false hopes”. That could result in damage to their psyche.
Just wanted to clarify my thoughts on this as I don’t want to attack EF, since I agree the end goal is seeing people punished for these crimes and being able to travel freely and I won’t get too excited until this is happening.
If I worked for the 77th I wouldn’t focus on making individual tailored comments on this site, it’d be a massive waste of time.
‘If I worked for the 77th I wouldn’t focus on making individual tailored comments on this site, it’d be a massive waste of time.’
Would it?
This is an influential anti-narrative site – I have spotted 2 regular contributors who have a subtle (and sometimes not-so-subtle) approach at demoralising opposition views. They are helped to remain hidden by the very obvious trolls who occasionally descend on the site for a few days, but please don’t doubt they they are here – and their motives aren’t honourable.
I think there’s a certain arrogance to believing people would invest that much time on us commenters below the line, as if we’re that important or that it’d have that much effect.
I can think of myriad ways to have far more impact.
I know people in real life who really hold these views. It’s a perfectly natural viewpoint to approach it from, one which I can often relate to. So for me it’s the reverse – if there weren’t a few regular contributors on here who approach things from this mindset, then I’d start suspecting foul play, or censorship, or start getting concerned it’s too much of an echo chamber.
Reminder: we’re complaining that people are being sceptical on a site called “dailysceptic”.
I apply the same sort of logic to people who dispute the existence of omicron – to me, it’d be weirder if a virus never evolved.
Yes. Most of the time you’d think they’re with us. But then, yes, every so often they’ll slip in something to make us feel demotivated and scared. Perhaps only every few days/ weeks (though I don’t read the comments every day) but enough to have a powerful effect…) As you say, it’s subtle.
My objection is the regular, tedious criticism of the people in the UK without any corresponding evidence of what has worked to free Finland.
Also the similar inciting comments to ‘go round to so-and-so’s house/workplace’ to protest – has this worked for him and if so, when and where?
Fully agree
Hear, hear.
I wish people didn’t shout “take your freedom back”. You freedom is no one’s to take unless you give it to them. What we are losing is the right to control our own lives. The right to choose what is best for us individually, not for the “greater good” as deemed by the state, which has been engineered now as the norm. But, what was naturally classed as freedoms has now been turned in “privileges” to be bartered with. Waiting for Daddy Pig Dictator to just hand them back ain’t going to happen. If people hadn’t willingly and blindly conceded to everything they were told to do in the first place we wouldn’t be in this situation.But they, the government, took the good nature that is present in most human beings and destroyed it, together with their faith and trust, and they need to see that the people have given enough now, and they aren’t prepared to give any more! No, don’t shout “take your freedom back”. It’s already yours. Use it now!
I hate ‘freedoms’. Where did that come from? Prior to 2020 it was ‘freedom’. Why are we using their language?
They should do it, its a disgrace and an unfolding tragedy if not stopped. Pharma promises the brexit bonus and industry that Johnson thought would make him heroic
Didn’t France end up doing the same? Stand firm and resist – there is strength in numbers.
Meanwhile, the BBC is banging the drums of war with Marcus ‘chicken-hawk’ Elwood on AM saying the British Public need to be woken up to the dangers of Russia in Ukraine, even had the Bulgarian Ambassador on to over-egg the pudding.
The public need transparency over the jabs and virus origins, but the only transparency we have is seeing right through bastards like Elwood who are engineering a phoney’war’ against Russia to save their own political skins and that of their lazy incompetent leaders in Number 10 and in the Whitehouse.
Detracting from the inflation, failing companies and general economic cluster fuck is also in play here.
Dont forget that the elites behind these climate/covid scams also benefit from war.
They just think that their tactic of ‘encouragement’ (how quaint) is sufficient to achieve outcomes. They are so stupid and short-sighted. Their brute force approach is now rebounding like a heat-seeking Pandora-class missile.
Surely, surely, this ‘pausing’ is essentially now a stepping-stone to dropping this cretinous mandate entirely?
Like the rest of the western world leaders controlled by WEF and Bill Gates there must be complete domination of the populations otherwise how is it possible to control? Look at China that is the model, God knows why, but it is. When even the CEO of the company that makes the covid 19 failed injection admits they don’t work, and yet world leaders continue with the process of discrimination and force, what other reason could it be for? not health, noone who looks at evidence could argue otherwise now,
WEF and Bill Gates are mostly old and vulnerable people. They may think that they are immortal but they are not. If they were wise they would have at least half an eye on dying well, but I doubt that they are capable of that kind of foresight.
So they too will pass, one hopes sooner rather than later, and one hopes, but doubts, that they will be sensible enough to repent pretty soon, since life continues beyond the grave and they are no longer protected by their billions there. Nothing is indomitable, especially when built upon evil.
Maybe MPs should pause it for good, for their own safety?
If someone with my views ever gets into power, I’d lock them up forever. I suspect many others on here feel the same.
Any chance of broadcasting the case being brought in the International Criminal Court against those who brought us a gain of function virus and the premeditated murder by the previously patented jabs that are still experimental?
I don’t see space for a “pause” in the legislation.
The legislation requires vaccination with approved products and an approved schedule. It is only a JCVI recommendation to have 12 weeks between jabs. As Pfizer has a minimum of 21 days the latest date for commencing a programme could be 10 March. That is over 4 weeks of space without any face loss by the government.
They thought everyone would fall in line and do as they’re told. Not so! Getting everyone to clap like demented seals was part of the conditioning of people to get them to turn on those that would resist. But again they’ve underestimated how people really think. Well done, that 80,000 that held the line. It’s not over by a long shot yet, still have to keep going but the house of cards is wobbling like fury!
I think 5-10% resistance was always gamed into the coupleaders foward planning strategy. Now its a question of how to make them comply to their New Normal ideology. Different leaders have different strategies, but they all boil down to demonising the resistance and making them scapegoats.
It has occurred to me that when intelligent, highly-qualified, eloquent, doctors, consultants etc are sacked, and their careers aren’t at risk any more, as they’ve lost them…they might make quite a noise.
I started mistrusting politicians back in the 1990’s with that smarmy git Blair, I realised he was just a showman. Then in 2003 all belief and trust in politicians evaporated when the smarmy git took us to war, purely on lies (WMDs that could be launched in 45 minutes, couldn’t say what type of WMD they were Nuclear, Biological or Chemical but they had WMDs. When that was exposed to be a lie they attacked Iraq to remove Hussein, which under international law is illegal to attack a country to change its regime).
Never, ever trust a politician and always question (twice) what they are doing. Never ever believe a politician without asking yourself, what’s in it for them.
Some reports in the US suggest that hospitals did go ahead and sack workers, only to rehire them anyway. All theatre
One of our Sitp is a support worker, she was sacked and re-hired through an agency. Apparently there is some kind of loop-hole.
I’m in a WhatsApp group for non clinical staff. Some trusts have been over interpreting to include any admin staff who would have to walk down a corridor and pass by a patient.
Beyond ridiculous. Lots of very stressed people, some now on medication to cope. This government disgust me.
“Those who are medically exempt can keep their jobs.”
If anyone can be ‘exempt’, then everyone can be ‘exempt’.
They thought it would be clever to bring this forward due to milder Omicron. They always seem to choose the stupid option.
These are people in the Public Sector that Doris has been begging to Tote for him.
Let the NHS implode, if it hadn’t already done so. It can’t or won’t provide even the most basic level of care for its payers, in spite of the obscene sums of money which disappear into its black hole-esque gravitational field every year, and already high levels of taxation go on climbing. The front line staff unions are problematic. The management unions are problematic. The doctors unions are problematic. The importation of ‘trained’ healthcare workers from other countries where free healthcare is not a sacred cow is an international crime that no one ever mentions. It it’s become abundantly clear that socialised medicine is a vehicle to install socialism, or maybe globalism by the back door, as the costs grow to require an greater proportion of GDP and household income. Let it fail.
In Germany a “mandatory” jab for care home workers will start soon. The employers are told they need to report any unjabbed staff to the local health authority, where an overworked civil servant will decide over their fate. They will probably be given some criteria to decide if the person can continue to work there. I saw a news report recently, where one care home manager actually said they will not report their staff as they value and need them. And I guess if you have a friendly civil servant, people can keep their jobs.
What a load of shit, and I would say the same goes on here. It depends on your management. When they started the care home policy, I asked myself who will control this and how long does it take, and what powers do any authorities actually have to force a care home to get rid off the staff?
Pointless vaccine posturing, probably attached to some former agreement with the pharma mafia.Yeah no worries well get rid of fucking millions of the stuff ,leave it to us .Well i think everybody was taken for a ride and in effect we are still actually waiting for that miracle vaccine.We were sold Lemsip but a conttract is a contract so lets keep pushing this useless shit upon a demoalised people who are so fucking dizzy with Covidmania they cant stop and think
“73,000 patient-facing workers are unjabbed.”
Many of those NHS workers would have seen first hand the damage the jabs can do to their “vaccine” injured patients and maybe that is why they decided not to be jabbed themselves.
I don’t get it?
How can there be 70 000 unvaxxed people in the NHS?
Surely all these super stupid anti-vaxxers are dead because only the vaxxed can survive the deadly coof.
Boris must know the vaccines don’t work and only cause harm. I’m pretty sure he does not want to be remembered as the PM who made these poisonous experiments mandatory for anyone.
Jab staff so they are more likely to catch the virus. If the plan is to destroy the NHS, it’s a good one.
“pausing” is not stopping.
Revenge is a dish best eaten very, very cold.
Amazing how,when stood up to and their bluff called, how bullies back down.
If there are any unvaccinated NHS workers on this site I would ask you to ask yourself this question, what has your union done to support and protect you during this witch hunt of madness?.How much in dues are you paying to belong to this body that has watched as you have been threatened with a loss of livelihood, if you do not give up the rights to your body to the Authorities.
I would then ask that amongst the 70,000 plus of you, is there not a group who could form a new union to protect your rights? I would furthermore as a group stick to your guns. If the Government says it caves “for now” with regards to your medical status, do not accept it, en masse all 70,000 of you need to come together and tell the Government that they remove the requirement in its entirety, otherwise you will all withdraw your labour as of the February date. What they are asking of you is unreasonable, it is asking you to put your own health at risk, to furthermore accept your employer has ultimate control of your body and for what? 3 injections that the Government and the CEO of Pfizer accepts provides no protection, but for which to admit they made an error they prefer to disrupt and ruin people’s lives. My advice is if they do not concede, remove yourselves from work, of course the NHS will crater, people will suffer and not be treated but this is not of your making, it is of a Pig headed group of self interested politicians. You hold the power to stop this nonsense, use it. The alternative is you let them postpone, meanwhile they will hang the sword of damoclese over your head and use it in the future whenever it suits them. Stop them, there is strength in your number.
I understand there is a big demonstration in London about the potential sacking of “unvaxed” NHS workers. I also understand there are protests going on in other cities, but you wouldn’t know looking at the MSM.
Well we all know compulsary vaccination of health and care workers is merely the cynical prelude to compulsary vaccination of everyone with their deliberate imposition of a genocidal poison, there will be few triple vaxxed or heaven forbid quadruble vaxxed Sheeple who won’t succumb to something or other in the next few years, it’s Darwinism in action, do I feel empathy for these people?
No none, they are the ones who who are dragging us all down to their level with their Gimpish compliance to evil.
Evil has to be faced down or you are nothing less than an accomplice.
Those people are victims of crime and should be treated with compassion.
So hardly anybody is dying, hospital beds lay empty, it’s 100% understood that you can both catch and spread the vaccine regardless of how many jabs or boosters you have had, and yet still the idea you need to have a vaccine in order to keep your job is not simply laughed at?
So WHY do they want us all to have that vaccine?? What exactly is in the thing that makes them want to threaten innocent people with having their livelihoods taking away if they won’t have it?
It should be clear, not just to readers of this site, that this is absolutely nothing to do with health and everything to do with something much more sinister
I recommend everyone to read Real Anthony Fauci by Bobby Kennedy Jr. On chapther 3 he explains how Ivermectin could have saved 80 percent of deaths Worldwide. This book have opened my eyes. I now know that, 90% of all medicine is not for anything else than profit for them. Low profit and effective medicines are bashed and marketed as ineffective because they go against their narrative and profit plans. One of them is wonder drug Ivermectin. I see that everyday people search for it but can’t find a place to obtain. You can get yours by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com
A temporary suspension is not enough. Ongoing vaxxing during a pandemic will only worsen things according to Drs Paul Alexander and Geert Vanden Bossche. No one seems to be listening.
Forcing people to be vaccinated (not just NHS staff) is loathsome and cynical.
In the case of health workers, if they really were a danger to patients, they should have been forced out last year at the same time as care workers. But the government realised they may need them through the winter, even if they were ridden with what the government considered to be a serious disease. This is a disgusting use of bully boy tactics and all those that support it should be sacked.
I as a nhs worker I know this deadline will never happen for the simple fact guidelines tell us that if you’ve been infected recently you should wait 12 weeks before vaccination to avoid ADE. If anyone cares to look where infections have been high together with vaccination you will see that deaths from all cause mortality spiking. Professor Norman Fenton from Queen Mary’s university London mentions this, that any life saved by vaccination is erased by increased deaths from other causes. So if you’ve recently been infected bring this information to your employer or seek a medical exemption.
Sacking 70,000 workers will make a useful impact on the wages bill. In fact, why not sack all staff – that would save the cash-strapped NHS
How can a treatment, still under safety trials, be mandated to anyone?