The Right Needs to Find a Way to Accommodate Tim Stanley

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Trying to sell ice-creams and political parties has more in common than you might think. Magnum Classic, Almond, White, Mint. Singles and minis. You can get Magnums in multiple flavours and sizes.

If you’re a retailer, the Magnum Ice Cream Company can fill your fridge with their range. Everyone coming into the shop to buy an ice-cream has a choice, but it’s limited to the Magnum range.

The Right needs to emulate this approach. Currently we appear to be offering just the political equivalent of the Magnum Classic: out of the ECHR, out of Net Zero, out of the EU and illegal migrants out of here!

In my social circle we have EU ‘rejoiners’. Others who are first and second generation migrants. Mixed-race friends who instinctively fear overly heavy migration control. There are public sector employees, gays and members of a variety of minority groups. However, they all tend to share a common concern over taxation, growing state authoritarianism and the fear that their children are getting a less good inheritance than they enjoyed. Economically they tend to be either small or large ‘c’ conservatives – let’s not push them away in the pursuit of philosophical purity.

While most of us might settle for the Magnum Classic, we’re not a majority. To win back power we also need those looking for the political equivalent of the Almond, White or Mint flavour on the Right of British politics.

We achieve this by broadening the scope of the debate on the Right, not shutting it down.

The Right has allowed the Left to own too many issues that could just as well be claimed by the Right. Why is the Net Zero debate dominated by the Left? Arguably its greatest champion has been Elon Musk – hardly a socialist ‘pin-up’. There are very strong libertarian arguments in favour of meritocratic migration; it’s not inherently a Left-wing cause. There are plenty of British entrepreneurs who advocate rejoining the EU, and plenty of Right-of-Centre governments in power in EU member states.

There are some common beliefs on the Right. We all tend to believe in lower taxes, smaller government, national sovereignty, stricter immigration control and preserving traditional social norms, but beyond that there are a host of conflicting positions that are all perfectly legitimate.

I’m delighted when I see Net Zero and membership of the ECHR debated between people on the Right. The recent Telegraph climate change debate between Tim Stanley and Lord David Frost was exactly what should be encouraged. If Tim Stanley and his fellow travellers are hounded out, their likely next stop is with the Lib Dems. By making Net Zero a shibboleth we strengthen our real enemies.

After all, abandoning the prevailing Net Zero requirements doesn’t mean scrapping the existing wind turbines or smashing solar farms. Rather, it means scaling back subsidies and making renewable energy generation pay its way. Advocates of renewables keep telling us how cheap they are – well, let them show us. These are positions that should sit comfortably on the Right.

Likewise, the much-debated ‘points-based’ migration policy could be widely acceptable, so long as illegal migration is dealt with and so long as we manage the number of dependants arriving.

I’d question whether the recent and very obvious editorial shift in the Daily Telegraph’s political coverage is a deliberate move to the Left or an attempt to broaden the appeal of the Right – an attempt to move away from the Magnum Classic.

However, where a seemingly intractable problem still exists is with EU membership: the Tories’ Achilles heel for half a century.

To the surprise of no one, YouGov’s recent polling found that 30% of Tory voters were in favour of rejoining the EU. Somewhat more of a surprise was that 12% of Reform’s voters wanted to rejoin too. When it came to building a ‘closer relationship’ with the EU, the proportion of Tories supporting this doubled to 61%, with 39% of Reform voters also keen.

Worryingly, EU membership may yet become the defining issue of the next election. The Right can’t afford to make rejecting it out of hand an article of faith.

Let’s assume that Andy Burnham resists the siren call to go to the country in the autumn and that the next General Election is in 2029. It seems highly unlikely that he’ll want to run on Labour’s record in office. Far better that Burnham finds a cause that the ‘progressive’ parties can rally around in the hope of forging a ‘progressive alliance’. What better cause than rejoining the EU? Not only is it hugely popular on the Left, it’s also the one issue that may allow progressive parties to reach across the middle ground and into the ranks of Right-of-Centre parties.

Even the moderate Right are becoming highly sceptical of Net Zero and the ECHR, but for too many the EU still seems binary.

Already we’ve seen Hamish Falconer, the Minister for Europe, speculating about “rejoining” being included in the next Labour manifesto.

The Right needs to accommodate those who are EU enthusiasts. It doesn’t seem to me that this is impossible. Right-of-Centre rejoiners recognise that the UK’s negotiating position would be totally undermined if it followed a manifesto pledge or a referendum committing it to rejoin. Rather, the Right should adopt a policy where the EU has to move towards the UK – not the UK moving towards the EU. We’ve demonstrated over the past 10 years that we can manage perfectly well outside the EU. If there is any further rapprochement, compromise must come from the EU’s side.

A policy that doesn’t slam the door on the EU doesn’t make rejoining any more likely, but it is possible that various trade hindrances could be removed or educational co-operation improved.

However, whatever you think of the EU, for the Right to win the next election we can’t afford to drive 30% of Tory voters into the arms of the Lib Dems or Labour. We need to create a safe refuge on our side of the divide for our rejoiner comrades. Their position should be respected and a healthy, polite debate should be encouraged. Again, the EU question should be reclaimed by the Right.

We have to encourage civilised, respectful debate of all these issues between the different factions on the Right. No cancelling, no name-calling – debates where we always play the ball, not the man.

Let Ambrose Evans-Pritchard and Tim Stanley promote Net Zero. Let Gavin Barwell advocate for rejoining the EU. Let Boris Johnson defend his Boriswave. Heavens, I’d even accept everyone having to build a third toilet block if it means the trans debate can be framed as essentially a libertarian issue.

We need to turn the tables on the Left. If radical LGBTQ+ extremists can break bread with Islamists, surely we on the Right can find a way to tolerate Tim Stanley?

Stop Press: Allister Heath makes much the same argument in the Telegraph in a piece entitled: ‘This catastrophic split on the Right risks handing power to terrifying new enemies.

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Lewin
Lewin
1 month ago

I agree that we need to find accommodations with the Stanley-ite centrist dad tendency, but the centrist dads also need to admit the requirement for a genuine evolution of the political settlement. Stanley’s sentiments in his telegraph article were viable in 1997, maybe even 2007, but now they seem tragically naive and unaware of the reality. The reality of inexorable rises in electricity prices, the recent historical levels of drought (look up The Long Drought of 1890 – 1910) and most fundamentally the resilience to any and all changes on climate wrought by the use of fossil fuels. It is very hard to have a productive or even honest debate with a man who has not done his reading.

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
1 month ago

One major reason not to rejoin the EU is that under freedom of movement we’d be legally obliged to let in all newly minted EU citizens recently arrived from the third world. Many of them will have family and connections here already.

Sorry, Tim Stanley is beyond the pale.

Farage and Yusuf should keep banging the drum for a Singapore model for the UK – zero tolerance for crime, dirt and anti-social behaviour (including anti-white racism) and a strict immigration policy.

A pact with Kemi will be necessary. Whilst I have no problem with the general thrust of Restore’s policy, they’ve really dropped the ball with comms recently.

WillP
WillP
1 month ago

So just lie and be hypocritical? No thanks mate.

Net Zero is pure garbage. I won’t eat that d0g5h1t.
It is impossible to achieve in terms of resources available and time taken to acquire them (mining to the stupid)
It has no effect at all (2020 lockdown reduced human emissions equivalent to the whole EU and UK going Net Zero (5.4%) and NASA could not even detect it.
And lastly, as we all know, it’s economic suicide and makes us vulnerable to international exploitation – right now it’s like the Land Rush of 1889 for Qatar, China and Blackrock as they race to grab as mush of our assets as they can, whooping and hollering with excitement.

Gezza England
Gezza England
1 month ago

Tim Stanley be condemned to live with polar bears….well until they eat him.

Isn’t it great to see how stupid yougov are as in figure 1 on the right side they include the standard sign of leftie morons – failing to understand that there is no possibility of the UK rejoining The Customs Union because it is for EU Members ONLY.

Epi
Epi
1 month ago

I suggest you Mr Rendell, Tim Stanley and Alistair Heath all go to the Lib Dems. What on earth has happened to Conservatives in this country they all seem to have turned into limp wristed lefties. As for Boris Johnson he should be arrested for crimes against humanity locking us all up. Disgusting.

AIM HIGH VOTE LOWE MILLIONS MUST GO!!!

rachel.c
rachel.c
1 month ago

The problem we have is that the “left”, ie. progressives, socialists, globalists, haters of all things that made Britain great, have already won. We need a counter revolution from the “right” but too many who oppose the “left” like to be nice and don’t want to rock too many boats. We can probably agree on what we don’t want but few seem to have the courage to admit Britain is broken, that we need radical reform. They prefer to sit on their hands with their heads in the sand hoping it will all go away while their world collapses around them.

Mr Mary Whitehouse
Mr Mary Whitehouse
1 month ago

Quite simply, I do not want this country ruled by a single unelected power based abroad that we cannot get rid of.

Myra
Myra
1 month ago

Not sure what argument is being made here?
More debate? I am all for it.
A party that just stands for small State, less taxation and controlled immigration, whilst upholding British values? I am all for it?
So what to do with all the other issues…
We cannot have a party that is all for all people.
So more referenda on all the other issues?

stillonlplates
stillonlplates
1 month ago

The EU seems to be hell-bent on destroying itself (led by Germany) and the UK is doing the same.
What would rejoining (or being closer to) the EU achieve, except to turbo-charge our mutual decline?
I’m managing reasonably well with Ursula von Dummkopf out of my life, and I’d like to preserve that status quo.
We have enough of our own idiots against whom we must struggle. Why widen the conflict?

David
David
1 month ago

The Free Speech Union motto is ‘hear the other side’ because it was founded to represent the ‘other side’ – ie the non-woke, non socialist, side whose voice was and still is being suppressed. Much the same consideration applies to the D Sceptic. It exists to challenge the shibboleths of the uniparty whose opinions bulk large in other publications, not make room for them here. I understand Reform in the same way – if it isn’t against woke and the EU superstate then it is just part of the problem. And the rejoinders had better remember that we were told years ago that there is no ‘Europe a la carte’. No half measures. They mean it.

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
1 month ago
Reply to  David

Hence, when Britain was negotiating for entry to the EEC and the enormity of the Acquis Communautaire was being questioned by the various people involved in the negotiations, the traitor Heath said “Swallow it, swallow it all, swallow it whole”.

JohnCaldigate
JohnCaldigate
1 month ago

Let’s make the right even more fragmented. Great idea.

Grim Ace
Grim Ace
1 month ago

No thanks. Stanley is a
Lib Dumb. I am happy for civil war and a right wing dictator to resolve our societal weaknesses.

RTSC
RTSC
1 month ago

Sounds like Nick Rendell wants to recreate Cameron’s BluLabour …. “talk Right, Govern Left.”

That worked out really well didn’t it.

RTSC
RTSC
1 month ago

Why? He’s basically a lefty.

piper
piper
1 month ago

Certainly you should debate Net Zero with those on the right who support it. However as so many of them have studied neither engineering nor economics e.g. Tim Stanley, I don’t think they have sufficient education, let alone experience, to even understand the arguments. Regardless of what one thinks about climate change, can you make common cause with people who want to deindustrialise and impoverish the UK?

RJBassett
RJBassett
1 month ago

I hear David Cameron, circa 2008; this seems like an argument for the revival of the “uniparty” approach that has failed the country so badly in the past 30 years.

To build a cohesive party that can win elections, you build it around principles and the policies will flow from there. For example, if you don’t believe in state control of the economy and excessive regulation than you are not a supporter of net zero.You can still be a believer in climate change but not in the net zero approach to it. If you believe that you want to live in a sovereign state you do not cede decision making authority to other countries but that does not prohibit commercial entities from making their own arrangements. If you believe that the role of the government is create an environment for people to succeed in commerce or trade but not to micromanage it, than you are in favour of free trade and not trading blocs.

If the author had read or understood Edmund Burke he would know that the UK is meant to be a responsible government not a representative government. That means that you elect people who you trust… Read more »

thoroj
thoroj
1 month ago

Fair enough, up to a point.

The problem with the climate / NZ debate is that it’s proponents are trying to defy the laws of physics and thermodynamics to the point of complete destruction of our economy. The problem is that it’s impossible to have a logical argument in such an environment.

As for the EU, again, what’s the point? We left because we wanted to be governed by our own Parliament and not by some supra-national unaccountable and technocratic bureaucracy. Why would one ever want to surrender our sovereignty. Have we collectively lost our memories of how dreadful it was. The EU’s vindictive and bitter behaviour during the withdrawal negotiations was as childish as a bad-tempered spiteful divorce. After all that, who’d want to re-marry such nasty ex-partner? Not me, thank you!

Phil51
Phil51
1 month ago

Farage is canny enough to know he needs a broader church to win an election but the problem is too many parties on the right splitting votes. I think Restore is too extreme and the Conservatives too tainted but they will sabotage Reforms chance at Governing. We might need another few years of Labour (like the 70s) to really drive the UK to despair but in the meantime the damage they inflicted could be fatal. Regardless, immigration and Net Zero are the 2 most important areas of policy for voters and do need tackling. But don’t get me started on “Islamphobia”- what a shocking political decision by this terrible Labour Government! We do need Reform.

Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil51

No, we don’t. We need RUPERT LOWE’S RESTORE BRITAIN.

Epi
Epi
1 month ago
Reply to  Heretic

Absolutely don’t know who these numphties are with their thumbs down they clearly haven’t woken up yet. AIM HIGH VOTE LOWE MILLIONS MUST GO!

Free Lemming
Free Lemming
1 month ago

Mixed-race friends who instinctively fear overly heavy migration control.

This is what happens at the end – the Magnum Classic is removed from the range and we only have distant memories of what it tasted like. Right-wing politics maintains right-wing politics. So it is dead. What this article seeks to address is how a form of right-wing politics can remain relevant within a politically centrist environment.

transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 month ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

The environment is not centrist, it is left wing socialism

GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
1 month ago

Democracy is hamstrung by single issue voters and the utterly credulous.

EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
1 month ago

Who is Nick Rendell and why does DS hive him space. This is a very silly article.

stillonlplates
stillonlplates
1 month ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Free speech, innit?

transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 month ago

philosophical purity” = having coherent principles that make logical sense, and sticking to them.

Trump didn’t win by going “centrist”. He appealed to the Republican base who were sick of being betrayed by RINOs.

Jack the dog
Jack the dog
1 month ago

Correct, and the same situation is available in England. Middle England is sick of being betrayed.

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

I bloody hope so.

GunnerBill
GunnerBill
1 month ago

The right needs to find a way to accommodate the left?

That makes no sense.

Stewardship
Stewardship
1 month ago
Reply to  GunnerBill

The right needs a majority. Uncompromisingly swivel eyed isnt going to cut it, Realistic, negotiatable, imaginative, forward thinking leadership inclusive of doubters, waverers, those adjacent to us, is the only way to assemble the necessary coalition.

Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago
Reply to  Stewardship

Rubbish! Give me honest, “uncompromisingly swivel-eyed” patriots any day!

transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 month ago
Reply to  Stewardship

“swivel eyed”. Ad hominem, lost the argument, much?

I’ve never heard of Tim Stanley but “out of the ECHR, out of Net Zero, out of the EU and illegal migrants out of here!” are fundamental red-line positions for me, anyone who doesn’t support those is not “adjacent to me”.

PeterM
PeterM
1 month ago

What an unworkable fudge! If the price of rejoining the EU is spelled out in detail it would frighten everyone.

Curio
Curio
1 month ago

Better re-accommodate, as in:
‘Re-accommodate’ is Airline United’s euphemism for forcibly dragging passenger off an airplane.

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
1 month ago

“and plenty of Right-of-Centre governments in power in EU member states”

But they’re not in power, they are beholden to the EU bureaucracy, exactly as Jean Monnet intended with his structuring of what became the EU. National governments can do little without the agreement of Brussels.

I want none of it, and none of any of the other things that are known to be bad but are accepted by people who have not been taught to understand what adherence to them involves.

EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
1 month ago

This is a confused article.

One of the biggest problems we have faced is LibDems (soft socialists) who inhabit the Tory Party and its fan clubs in various MSM. They have promoted left, pro-EU, globalist policies for 30 years.

Meanwhile they claim to be conservative o ly to kick sand in our eyes at every opportunity.

Tim Stanley himself is viciously anti-Farage and pro the Tory Party.

Forget them and carry on in our own terms.

RJBassett
RJBassett
1 month ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Tim Stanley is a former Labour candidate.

stillonlplates
stillonlplates
1 month ago
Reply to  RJBassett

I don’t trust him, or his brother, Morgan.

Mrs.Croc
Mrs.Croc
1 month ago

Nope, not convinced.
the reason the left is so powerful is that the right have allowed it to happen and then joined in.
more of the same won’t make it better.
There is now no left or right; just the uniparty.
we need something different, not a rehash of the old party system

Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago

“Now look here, you pigheaded, recalcitrant patriots!” said Mr. Rendell in exasperation.
“We’ve managed to delay your stupid Brexit decision for a whole decade, without anyone noticing, in order to bring you to your senses.”

“Brexit rejected the Mass Third World Invasion, but it’s only ILLEGALS you should be worrying about, because we’ve already been filling the country, the government & judiciary with LEGALS, and you can’t do anything about it. Now here I’ve shown you a graph of a YouGov poll to dazzle you proles with science, and you can’t argue with that.”

“So just admit defeat, lie down like doormats while our EU Dictator Ursula von der Leyen rides roughshod over you, and remember what Klaus Schwab said: “You will own nothing, and be happy.”

— “Yes, sir… Sorry, sir…Thank you, sir!” we replied to Mr. Rendell, tugging our forelocks. “Where do we get our mosque prayer mats to lie down on?”

Willsywoo44
Willsywoo44
1 month ago
Reply to  Heretic

Frightening!

Jaguar
Jaguar
1 month ago

Good grief. The EU is a place where nations go to die. It is strangling the German car industry after hollowing out the whole of Southern Europe. It’s enthusiastically for mass migration and Net Zero. Any attempt at a closer relationship would wreck any hope of fixing either.
We will soon have major blackouts as a direct result of Net Zero. There have been narrow escapes already. Public opinion will soon be as hostile to Net Zero as it is to illegal migration.

kev
kev
1 month ago
Reply to  Jaguar

There is no negotiation with the EU, it is an immovable, monolithic, bureaucratic monster.

Hopefully now in its final death throes, due to its intransigence and unaccountable top down authoritarian structure.

stillonlplates
stillonlplates
1 month ago
Reply to  kev

The Schengen area seems to be fraying at the edges.

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