It’s Not ‘Advocate For’. It’s ‘Advocate’

It's 'advocate', not 'advocate for'. Just because an error is common, doesn't stop it being wrong. And no, you can't 'advocate against'; that's an oxymoron. Can we at least get our words right, pleads Will Jones.

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Just because an error is common, doesn’t stop it being wrong. This is true of common mispronunciations such as ate (rhymes with met not mate, unless you’re American), privacy (doesn’t start like private but privet, again, unless you’re American), comparable (it’s not com-parable, it’s ‘comprable’), adversary (doesn’t sound like adversity) and so on. This is probably obvious to most readers.

What I want to complain about here is the increasing (it seems to me) use of ‘advocate for’ when what is meant is ‘advocate’.

I’ve tried to ignore it but the misuse seems to be growing.

I even found it in the Telegraph this morning, in an article by a member of the House of Lords, no less.

It’s easy to see how it’s happened. To advocate something means to recommend it publicly. Similar concepts are ‘speak for’ and ‘push for’ so we can see how the ‘for’ might have crept in.

Some people also sometimes say ‘advocate against’, which is an oxymoron, but if you think it’s valid you may think you need to be clear when one is in favour.

A person, such as a lawyer, can be an advocate for someone, meaning he represents him. So this is another possible origin of the error.

But it remains an error.

‘Advocate’ as a verb should never be followed by ‘for’. It’d be like a health officer saying “I recommend for brushing your teeth twice a day”. It’s plain wrong.

The Collins dictionary gives examples of correct usage for the verb:

Mr. Williams is a conservative who advocates fewer Government controls on business

…the tax policy advocated by the Opposition.

For the noun, an advocate is always an advocate of a cause, not an advocate for it. Collins again:

He was a strong advocate of free market policies and a multi-party system.

As noted above, it is valid to say that someone who represents a person a group is an advocate for them, in the sense of acting on their behalf. But that’s the only time ‘for’ should appear with ‘advocate’.

I’d like to be able to tie this to some general decline in standards attributable to wokery or such like. And maybe there is some connection to a decline in proper education and journalistic standards. But it may also just be one of those things, an error that has become so common even writers and editors who should know better start to forget it’s an error.

So this is my little protest, which I trust everyone will now read and, having done so, resolve never to do it again.

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blunt instrument
blunt instrument
2 years ago

Hate as a noun instead of hatred.
Unique instead of unusual.
Envision instead of envisage.
Conspiracy instead of conspiracy theory.

kev
kev
2 years ago

My personal dislike is when almost everyone adds “super” into sentences. Right now its windy outside, its not super windy, just windy.

Heretic
Heretic
2 years ago

The latest awful new jargon term I’ve heard was turning the verb “ask” into a noun meaning “request”. “We have three asks…”

And the most common mistake is “an history lesson” or “an historic moment”, when it should be “a”. The mistake, like saying “haitch”, comes from confusion over the silent “h”. If the beginning “h” is silent, which it rarely is in English, use “an” to make a smooth transition. For example,

  • a hot day
  • a hopeless situation
  • a happy holiday
  • a heatwave
  • a historic moment (because the “h” is pronounced, not silent)
  • a history lesson (because the “h” is pronounced, not silent)
  • an herbal remedy in British English where the “h” is silent
  • a herbal remedy in US English where the “h” is pronounced or aspirated
David101
David101
2 years ago
Reply to  Heretic

In many British accents (most notably but not confined to Cockney), the “h” is dropped in all of the above examples, an the the leading “a” becomes “an”. Eg. “An ‘opeless situation” or “an ‘appy ‘oliday”!

Heretic
Heretic
2 years ago

Will Jones’ interesting article brings to mind a little-known fact: that many older meanings and pronunciations of English words now lost in England are still preserved in their former colonies such as in North America, just as older pronunciations of Spanish words now lost in Spain are still preserved in their colonies such as in South America.

The “eight” pronunciation of “ate”, as with the other words he derides as “American”, comes from the English pronunciation rule that if a word has a vowel, then a consonant, then another vowel, the first vowel sound is always “long”.

“Sidewalk” is also derided as “American”, but was originally used in England in the days of park promenades, where people strolled along broad “main walks” and narrower “side walks” for more pr-“eye”-va-see.

The Spanish word “linda” (pretty) is derided in Spain as “South American”, but it can be found in works such as “Don Quixote” by Cervantes, widely regarded as the greatest writer in the Spanish language.

Similarly, there must be old English words preserved in Australia, Canada & New Zealand that have long been forgotten in their ancestral homeland.

thelightcavalry
thelightcavalry
2 years ago

I can’t stand “bored of” for “bored by”.

JASA
JASA
2 years ago

Going/have gone/went extinct instead of becoming/have become/became extinct. Likewise, you don’t go ill, you become ill.

Heretic
Heretic
2 years ago
Reply to  JASA

And you don’t “fall pregnant”, either.

Prickly Thistle
Prickly Thistle
2 years ago

I am driven mad on a daily basis by poor grammar. The Telegraph is quite dreadful and even the Spectator journalists are dropping the odd clanger. To be fair, once it has been pointed out, the editors often correct it.

I have still not recovered from seeing an ad in the Spectator a number of years ago for, wait for it: St. Valentines’s Day. Ok it, was an ad, so not the responsibility of the editors, but shouldn’t someone have picked this up?

Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
2 years ago

“Audit lead” in my old general practice: “For this audit, of course we will need to have a criteria.”
Me: “You mean ‘criterion.’ It’s a Greek word, and ‘criteria’ is the plural.
Audit lead: “Oh, OK. Well, in this case we two possible criterions…”

Jonathan M
Jonathan M
2 years ago

My pet hate is the use of likely (an adjective) in place of probably (an adverb).

Prickly Thistle
Prickly Thistle
2 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan M

I checked that one out the other day as Dot Wordsworth raised this subject. It is not actually incorrect, even if it does grate. Or even great, as many might say!

beaniebean
beaniebean
2 years ago

I’ve come to expect so little of journalists that I cease to be shocked by their poor use of English. I am much more shocked by their even more obvious lack of intelligence!
Quite frankly I’m bored “of” their general ignorance which is sadly becoming the norm. It appears to be highly infectious and there’s no safe and effective remedy.
PS my error above was deliberate just in case it’s raising your hackles!

sskinner
sskinner
2 years ago

Lived experience

lymeswold
lymeswold
2 years ago

I’ve noticed on a couple of different podcasts Toby Young (of all people!!) saying nucular instead of nuclear. Goerge W. Bush used to do the same.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
2 years ago
Reply to  lymeswold

It was, literally, in a Physics lecture that we were told that the details of nuClear Physics were unClear. 🙂

I found them to be more complicated than unclear, though appreciated the only joke available.

Iain McCausland
Iain McCausland
2 years ago

How do we stamp out the misuse of ‘literally’ amongst young people in this country? Maybe some kind of grammar gulag re-education camp?

Prickly Thistle
Prickly Thistle
2 years ago

And “like” every other, like word.

Marque1
Marque1
2 years ago

There is, “he/she went, no!’ All the lovely words in our language and they don’t know them. Furriners speak better English.
I hate Frank Spencer (I can’t remember the sods real name) and everyone,’ herASSing’ him. Makes my blood boil.

lymeswold
lymeswold
2 years ago

“Premier League footballer scores solo goal during Beta Squad charity match with viewers left divided over their identity”

Alexander Boot’s recent rant about the ugly and confusing ‘singular they/their’ … http://www.alexanderboot.com/football-makes-you-go-trans/

TheBasicMind
TheBasicMind
2 years ago
  1. Who owns the language?
  2. Why?
  3. Will what they say to make that claim make any difference to how our language evolves?
  4. If the answer is “no” they don’t own the language and everything you have just said is utter pretentious nonsense.

And I say this as someone who as much as the next man is annoyed when the BBC put on youth programming with the clear desperation to demonstrate how “down with the street” they are by employing teen slang and patois.

Marque1
Marque1
2 years ago

An invite. Even supposedly edumacated writers are using this one.
Speak to myself? Only I can do that, you speak to me. Can I get a coffee?

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Marque1

😀 😀 😀

RogerB
RogerB
2 years ago
Reply to  Marque1

And “disconnect” instead of “disconnection”.

Marque1
Marque1
2 years ago

Off of. Slither instead of sliver. Could of, etc.. Chewna. Aaaargh!

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Marque1

Oh yes.

The two that put my teeth on edge.

Dreadful, Dreadful, Dreadful.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I hear ‘my bad’ came from across the pond.

NickR
NickR
2 years ago

The misuse of reflexive pronouns, think Joan Armatrading, me myself I. The worst culprits are telephone sales people saying things like “is that ok with yourself?”

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  NickR

I had to call the surgery today to arrange a check up. This is how it went…

Hello. I’ve received a text asking me to call to arrange a check up. My date of birth is 01/01/01.

“Oh hello hux. You want an appointment?

Yes

“Do you want Shingles?”

No. I definitely don’t want Shingles. It’s not top of my wish list.

“Oh.”

Are you asking me about an injection?

“Yes. Do you want the Shingles vaccine?”

Absolutely no way do I want an injection.

“OK. I’ll make a note of that.”

After which I got the young lady back on track.

Anyway the good news is I have got an appointment in six weeks time. 🙃

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Such progress. Watch any old comedy from 90s to early 00s and people see the Doctor the same day, or get a home visit.

Free Lemming
Free Lemming
2 years ago

Read this just as I was tucking into my scone (rhymes with pull the other one, not overblown). Will, you’ve let me down with this load of sh*te.

johnbuk
johnbuk
2 years ago

I’m worried about flammable objects, or is it inflammable objects? Either way in a relative’s apartment block one of these options is not allowed on the stairs!!

Grim Ace
Grim Ace
2 years ago

Thank you, Will. I will advocate this in future
My other hate is ‘bored of’. It’s bored with!

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
2 years ago

Saying ‘disinterested’ to mean ‘uninterested’. It’s a shame because ‘disinterested’ is a useful word; more precise than ‘unbiased’.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

There is also a shortage of it in the Political Bubble.

GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
2 years ago

Ooh, Will. You hit a nerve with this cantankerous bunch of lovely pedants. We feel your pain. We each have our bugbears.

AnnExpat
AnnExpat
2 years ago

Using the logical fallacy “begs the question” thinking it sounds fancier than “raises the question”.

For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
2 years ago

My pet hates du jour is “return back to” and bought used as the past tense of bring (or should that be bing, for which I would blame Microsoft and their irritating search engine.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

“return back”

I was just coming to that – aaagh!

GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
2 years ago

Brought is pp of bring
Bought is pp of buy.

Will, damn you! You knew precisely how to create a dispute between previously pleasant commenters.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
2 years ago

I think Gaza did that.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
2 years ago

You could have return right back, to the very beginning, though, for emphasis.

David101
David101
2 years ago

Here’s another common, often overlooked one: The confusion of where to use the words “which” and “that”. For example, “The thing which annoys me most about my job is…” should be correctly: “The thing THAT annoys me most about my job is…”.

“Which” either occurs at the beginning of a question, i.e. “Which of these would you like?”, or following a comma as the beginning a clause embedded in a sentence, i.e. “The teaching of basic literacy in schools, WHICH is the bedrock of modern civilization, has been undertaken for centuries”.

You could call it the wicked “which” of the West!

RogerB
RogerB
2 years ago
Reply to  David101

I will quote Ernest Gowers (The Complete Plain Words): “There are still some people who try to insist that to use which or who in a defining clause is wrong, and that every such clause must have that. There is no justification for this, and there never has been”.

Look at Strunk and White’s example when advocating your view: “The lawn mower, which is broken, is in the garage”. It’s as cack-handed as “the pen of my aunt”. Strunk and White’s Elements of Style is regarded as an authority by the USA, and recommends “which-hunting”. Ha ha. They are largely to blame.

Ian Rons
Editor
2 years ago

Benjamin Franklin, in 1789:

During my late absence in France, I find that several new words have been introduced into our parliamentary language. For example I find a verb‥. from the substantive advocate; the gentleman who advocates or has advocated that motion‥. If you should happen to be of my opinion with respect to these innovations you will use your authority in reprobating them.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian Rons

Nice one Ian.👍

Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago

“It comprises of -”

“Nope. Stop there. It comprises.”

Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago

“Weather dependant”

Someone who is dependent upon the weather.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
2 years ago

Weatherly proud. League Of Gentlemen.

Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago

Everything is “iconic” these days.

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