There follows a guest post by Dr. David Seedhouse, Honorary Professor of Deliberative Practice at Aston University, who wonders why the NHS has been busy updating its monkeypox webpage.
According to one section of the NHS conditions website, monkeypox was first discovered in 1958 when outbreaks of a pox-like disease occurred in monkeys kept for research. It is a well-known virus, studied by scientists for decades, spread by close contact, and has established treatments.
So why has another part of the website recently been altered?
The screenshots below (provided by an eagle-eyed member of Our Decision Too) are a little difficult to read, but close inspection shows that the NHS has deleted key excerpts from its website, which previously stated that monkeypox is “usually a mild illness that will get better on its own without treatment” and “it’s very uncommon to get monkeypox from a person with the infection because it does not spread easily between people”. (Archived pages for November 2nd, May 19th and May 21st can be found on the Internet Archive.)
Despite the previous acknowledgement that monkeypox is difficult to spread, an isolation requirement has been added, “as the infection can spread through close contact, it’s important to isolate if you’re diagnosed with it”. It continues:
You may be asked to isolate at home if your symptoms are mild.
If your symptoms are severe or you’re at higher risk of getting seriously ill (for example, if you have a weakened immune system), you may need to stay in a specialist hospital until you recover.
You may be offered a vaccination to reduce the risk of getting seriously ill.
What would happen if the patient does not want to attend a specialist hospital is not discussed, nor is it explained how a vaccination will help an already infected person.
The page was reviewed on May 27th. We are told that the next review will not be until April 25th 2025. Worth bookmarking?
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Think you might have been in contact with a monkeypox case? Then wear a face nappy! You know it makes sense!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61640196
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6131633/pdf/fpubh-06-00241.pdf
More death shots coming?
This is most DEFINITELY their next big attack on humanity. They have been doing the gain of function research, and they have the codes ready for PCR. Fauci/Gate/Wuhan all over again.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/05/22/wuhan-assembled-monkeypox-strains/
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/05/30/fauci-funded-monkeypox-virus-treatment-study/
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/monkeypox-outbreak-primarily-spreading-sexual-contact-who-officials?commentId=1c71ec76-1ddb-4c0b-9dce-9c9cb709d1fc (scroll to the comment by Virgil Crenshaw)
Monkeypox could be the new covid if public health gets its way
https://drtrozzi.org/2022/05/29/anh-feature-monkeypox-a-smokescreen-for-a-global-health-powergrab/
Damn
Only the Dumb, or the Dead in a coffin with a MAs, still believes that Politicians want the best for them!
I wonder if eating a Scotch Egg helps protect you? Can’t wait for the NHS/Government to advise me.
Monkeypox is a known virus and has been around for years. There’s never been any necessity to impose isolation before. People just acted sensibly, stayed at home if they felt poorly, and got on with it. I’m sick and tired of the NHS telling us what to do, just because they can’t cope with people being ill.
Has the goofy nhs managed to let people know over the age of 50 they are immune to monkey pox? Also an antiviral known as Tpoxx is readily available and treats monkey pox successfully. No, I did not think so. We will now get our regular dose of fear porn brought to you by the biggest liars in the country the magnificent NHS. Prepare to get your pans out to bang on them each Friday night.
I don’t know where you get the impression that people over 50 are immune from. I suspect that you think everyone born prior to 1970 was vaccinated against smallpox as part of their childhood vaccinations.Unfortunately that is not true. Prior to 1948 smallpox was offered under the vaccination legislation at the time, and apparently the uptake in 1939 was less than 40%. When the NHS was formed all vaccination legislation was repealed.
I wasn’t vaccinated against smallpox and I was born in 1956.
Governments worldwide have been quietly publishing data for months on end that strongly suggests the Covid-19 injections cause extensive damage to the natural immune system, causing recipients to develop a new form of Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.
Now, new data, recently published by the UK’s Office for National Statistics, indicates that it only takes approximately 4 to 5 months after Covid-19 vaccination, for so much damage to have been done to the immune system that it can, unfortunately, lead to death, as many people have sadly already discovered.
Herpes/Monkeypox is one of the “possible conditions” of VAIDS – outbreaks can be severe, spreading from the mouth or genitals to deeper tissues in the lungs or brain.
Your Government is trying to cover up Covid Vaccine-Induced AIDS by inventing a Monkeypox Pandemic and blaming the Gay Community for it.
The new evolving hysteria surrounding the alleged emergence of ‘monkeypox’ in Western nations is not what it appears to be. We are not witnessing the monkeypox virus run rampant across first world countries for the first time ever.
Instead, we are witnessing the latest attempt to advance Draconian biosecurity policies through a monumental coverup of the devastating damage done to the immune systems… Read more »
But a brilliant analysis conducted by Jessica Rose Phd accurately estimates the underreporting factor to be at least 41.3. See: Jessica Rose PhD concludes in her paper that after the JAMA study was published doctors were more careful to assess vaccine recipients for prior history of anaphylaxis, so to calculate the true under-reporting multiplier she and her team decide to assess the VAERS database figures that were reported before the Mass General Brigham study was published, and calculated the underreporting rate to be 41 times less than what has and is occurring in the vaccinated population.
The average number of common cancers associated with AIDS being reported as adverse reactions to any vaccine between the years 2000 and 2020 equates to 21.3.
The total number of common cancers associated with AIDS reported as adverse reactions in 2021 was 430. This represents a 1919% increase.
The average number of herpes infections being reported as adverse reactions to any vaccine between the years 2000 and 2020 equates to 926.
The total number of herpes infections reported as adverse reactions in 2021 was 18,336. This represents a 1880% increase.
Sepsis is the body’s extreme response to an infection. It is a life-threatening medical… Read more »
Some people are expecting the Monkey Pox scam to play out exactly like COVID (with lockdowns and vaccine mandates for employment and venues. This is a mistake. The enemy has adjusted their strategy. Many will be caught off guard.
Instead of the general lockdowns and mandates we saw during covid, this time they will track and trace extensively; targeting individuals and their contacts with long quarantines and ring vaccination. The psychology used will be formidable and much more difficult to resist. Many who refused to comply in round one will fold.
Ring vaccination means that anyone caught up in their contact tracing will be detained by specially trained teams, isolated and pressured / forced to take the vaccine. In some countries force will be used early on, but even in jurisdictions where one is not legally obligated to comply the pressure that these teams apply will be extreme. The long quarantines will add an additional incentive to give in. When the only way to avoid extended house arrest (and eventually quarantine camps) is to accept the jab, compliance can be achieved without general mandates (though we may see these in some jurisdictions).
This targeting and isolation of individuals is nefarious… Read more »
Somebody already posted this above but at least they gave credit to the author…careful or people will think you’re the certifiable one!
The wonderful thing about guidance is that it always warrants being ignored.
Dr Robert Malone on GB News:
‘Well, of course there was strangely exactly one year ago a pandemic preparedness exercise, specifically on monkey pox. I’m sure that was a coincidence. We do see the World Health Organization’s spinning up announcements recently. You picked up the sarcasm. It’s been widespread in the media. And what I’ve found fascinating is multiple media sources. Substituting images of smallpox’.
‘What is concerning is the problems in the vaccinated those data do seem to suggest that there is some problem with the multiple jab, being more susceptible to infection, disease and death. I’m sorry to say’.
You can download a clip of the above interview here.
Dr Robert Malone was heading back home after the amazing Better Way Conference in Bath – a truly amazing event that I attended in person. Brett Weinstein, one of the speakers present, said that he was “shell shocked” to be in a room with so many rational people.
What’s up with the use of images of smallpox in monkeypox stories? I noticed that too.
The current official story is that for the past 40 years or so smallpox hasn’t existed anywhere in the world outside of biowar labs. In other words, the line is that all particles of the smallpox virus are currently safely inside the perimeters of biowar labs.
That line may soon change.
Then there’s salmonella. That’s a bacterium. One type causes typhoid. How lucky we are that the food products that are being recalled right now in Britain (by Tesco, Sainsbury, Aldi, Starbucks, Costa, and the Co-op) are said to carry only the non-typhoidal type.
An epidemic of either smallpox or typhoid would have some added cultural oomph that SARSCoV2 doesn’t. The flavour of the campaign would be different from what we’ve experienced since 2020. It would be more along the lines of “London’s burning” and a Possible Mediaeval-Type Apocalypse in the Digital Age. The same is true of bubonic plague.
(Incidentally, it was the yersinia pestis bacterium that causes bubonic plague that was spread in Korea by “freedom and democracy-loving” US forces in in the early 1950s. In earlier times brave soldiers from the… Read more »
I saw that GB News interview – with Farage – Farage practically had a heart attach when Malone uttered that line
“What is concerning is the problems in the vaccinated those data do seem to suggest that there is some problem with the multiple jab, being more susceptible to infection, disease and death. I’m sorry to say’.
The monkeypox virus was first identified in 1958 by Preben von Magnus in Denmark.
He was well informed about biological warfare. He worked at Denmark’s State Serum Institute and directed it from 1959.
His description in official Danish bullsh*t focuses on the heroic way that he successfully encouraged the US government to continue vaccinating children “against polio” even after some of the damage caused by the vaccine became known. Apparently he saw beyond the difficulties of the moment that would have changed the opinion of a lesser man, and he was an unshakeable true believer in the obvious fact of Danish superiority. Sorry but I have encountered this kind of bilge before and it makes me want to spit. He helped Big Pharma, he seems to have had strong connections with the Poo SA, and he was an all-round hero. Can I have my medal now, please. Scientists flocked to his lab to learn from the great man about how to make the polio vaccine. Never mind that sanitation systems improved or anything like that. It was all thanks to Magnus the Magnus. Or at least all the good stuff was. All the bad stuff wasn’t, and in any case… Read more »
Lastly you know I just don’t care what these clowns say anymore, they’ve lost my trust, I now always think there’s an ulterior motive. It’s not me with the problem, I have had vaccines in my life, my mother even had the Smallpox vaccine before 1971.
This is a political agenda to strip citizens of their human rights and civil liberties but it won’t work out the way they as in the WEF and their lackeys want it to. These people do NOT have your best interests in mind, quite the opposite. With Covid, I twigged something was wrong when this Government and Media denied lockdown harms and natural immunity from infection, that shows unequivocally the Lysenkoist nature of this Government.
it was the rigged vitamin D trials that did it for me. There was never any reference to the OMND or orthomolecular medicine from these crooks.
Looks like PG were forecasting the future.
Wait until asymptomatic Monkeypox, if it hasn’t already happened.
You can be asymptomatic with monkey pox but you are not infectious until you get the rash, unlike rubella where you are infectious a few days before the rash appears.
Achimptomatic?
How many times are you going to repeat this lame joke that somebody else made?
Excellent catch.
The info that monkeypox was first observed in an animal research facility is also very interesting. I wonder whether that will be denied later.
From above:
Then go to the BBC.
No but it could have escaped
BBC then writes this explanation. This is really not what I have read on the web.
Merry Christmas and a Herpes New Year.
Some people in the NHS may quietly recognise that the Covid vaccines have buggered our immune systems so that monkeypox may be more of a problem than heretofore.
And there will be another one along in a minute, madam.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
It’s a whipped up scare designed to lockdown America ahead of the mid term elections which, left to their own devices, would see the Democrats (leftist’s) utterly trashed.
If they somehow induce fear of leaving the house again and social contact, they can insist postal voting and drop boxes are once again on the menu, to be used in massive voter fraud which stole them to 2020 election.
The left will stop at nothing in their thirst for power, even destroying their own country to get it.
Then when the knuckle-dragging Republicans are on the way to the postbox with their postal votes, the lesbian soya-milk drinkers in the pay of North Korea are planning to sneak into their houses and steal their guns.
Personally I don’t see what is wrong or contentious about the advice, it makes sense to me. My comments are italicised.
The words may have changed or moved the sense remains the same.
“Monkeypox is a rare infection that’s mainly found in parts of west or central Africa. There have been some recent cases in the UK, but the risk of catching it is low.”
“Although more people have been diagnosed with it recently, only a small number of people in the UK have had monkeypox and the risk remains low.”
“Monkeypox is usually mild and most people recover within a few weeks without treatment.
But as the infection can spread through close contact, it’s important to isolate if you’re diagnosed with it. (Would you want to pass it on to friends and family?)
You may be asked to isolate at home if your symptoms are mild. (Ditto)
(The same advice is given for measles or diarrhoea & vomiting)
If your symptoms are severe or you’re at higher risk of getting seriously ill (for example, if you have a weakened immune system), you may need to stay in a specialist hospital until you recover. (This is not unreasonable, if you… Read more »
You are clearly infected with covid policy.
Monkey pox has been around for decades, if not generations.
Transmission is almost exclusively by contact with fluids from the blisters that form on the skin, or from being bitten by an infected animal, or consuming undercooked bushmeat.
There is no need to ‘isolate’ unless, like any other condition, one feels unwell in which case the normal course of self isolation mankind has practiced for hundreds of years, taking to your bed, is sufficient.
The practice of altering advice on monkey pox isn’t confined to the NHS. The site DermNetNZ, for example, displays similar exaggerated warnings now, compared to 2017.
2017 version: http://web.archive.org/web/20170625145659/http://www.dermnetnz.org/topics/monkeypox
2022 version: https://dermnetnz.org/topics/monkeypox
“You are clearly infected with covid policy.” I don’t understand your hostility here as it is nothing to do with Covid. It’s a million light years from SARS-CoV-2, it’s only on here that there seems to be a conflation of the two.
All I was saying is that the amended guidelines are no different to the previous guidelines in meaning.
If you have a chicken pox rash, a measles rash, a rubella rash or a monkey pox rash or salmonella or other gastroenteritis with active diarrhoea then you should isolate. What is wrong with that?
You are likely to take specific precautions in your own home to prevent the spread to family members.
You wouldn’t go to work (I hope).
That is ALL the advice is meaning by asking you to isolate, it’s common sense and good manners. You cannot transmit monkey pox unless you have the rash.
This is the measles advice
”Stay off nursery, school, or work for at least 4 days from when the rash first appears.
Also try to avoid close contact with babies, people who are pregnant and people with weakened immune systems.”
Rubella
“Stay off nursery, school, or work for 5 days… Read more »
“If I saw a patient with gastroenteritis then I advised them to not share towels or flannels, to wipe all surfaces in the bathroom after going to the toilet (particularly the door handle outside the bathroom), to close the toilet lid before flushing to ensure faecal matter didn’t contaminate the bathroom, to wash their hands thoroughly etc. etc.”
Yeah, toilet lids. In Britain many lower middle class and middle class people believe that working class people don’t wash their hands after they piddle or take a cr*p, that they rarely rest their food plates on tables, that they blow their noses onto their sleeves, that they put food straight into their mouths if they’ve dropped it on the floor, etc. – and, generally, that they are natural born vermin. The said “clean ones” are indoctrinated from a young age by their mothers and fathers (who were indoctrinates by their own mothers and fathers) to associate the “general public”, public transport users, council house residents, etc., with filth, disease, and sh*te. “Don’t play with him, Jeremy. He’s unhygienic.”
Thomas Malthus could only have come from one country.
I don’t understand what you’re getting at. I simply reinforced what people should be doing any way.
“There is no need to ‘isolate’ unless, like any other condition, one feels unwell in which case the normal course of self isolation mankind has practiced for hundreds of years, taking to your bed, is sufficient.” If you have the rash then you should minimise contact, I fail to understand what you’re saying that is contrary to what I said or why you’ve taken umbrage; except of course if you’re being deliberately obtuse.
John, thanks. I appreciate your medical postings.
Many pass colds on to their family members without a problem. Trying to ensure you don’t pass a cold on to someone you live with would be ridiculous.
People go into work with a cold, but we’re not talking about a cold but other diseases that have the potential for greater harm. For example, if you had rubella I would hope that you would avoid contact with pregnant women.
You just know they’re going to go at it again but slicker this time – with a good few nudges to pave the way.
Slickness, nudges, and a FAST whack over the head with a sledgehammer as men wearing black uniforms move in to guard all the strongpoints and tell you that now it’s going to be like THIS; THIS is the new new normal.
Open a Public Inquiry into Covid-19 Vaccine Safety
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/602171
Why even bother with another silly petition when you can stamp your feet and squeam and squeam?
Yeah, I know…. “at least it’s doing something”.
40,000 petitions tossed in the wastepaper basket….. still, let’s try another!
Can’t be a requirement if it’s guidance
That would change if it was declared a notifiable disease as it would come under the 1984 public health act, as does measles at the moment.
If a child has a diagnosed case of measles then the local authority has the power to exclude that child from school and other activities under the 1984 act. If the child is out in a public space with the rash visible then, with authorisation from a magistrate, the police can take the child home.
This was the gross mistake the government made with CoViD19, if they had just used the 1984 act as written then there could have been no lockdown of healthy people. However, they produced a bastardised version which is what Jonathan Sumption argued against, and the rest, as they say is history.
You may be offered a vaccination to reduce the risk of getting seriously ill.
As the article mentions, this is completely incorrect. How did it get put in there? No one with medical knowledge would have added it. Can it be that this website is being updated by people WITHOUT medical knowledge?
My understanding was that if you are 50+ you will have had a smallpox jab at some time, and so will have protection.
What fresh Hell is this?
Taking advantage of the ignorant again? I guess when confronted with a goon in a hazmat suit, many would indeed fold.
There is evidence that the smallpox vaccine is 80%+ effective against monkey pox.
See this paper originally published in nature medicine in 2005.https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jay-Hooper-3/publication/7790523_Smallpox_vaccine-induced_antibodies_are_necessary_and_sufficient_for_protection_against_monkeypox_virus/
I am over 50 and I never had smallpox vaccination.
See also https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mary-Reynolds-6/publication/221742776_Outbreaks_of_human_monkeypox_after_cessation_of_smallpox_vaccination/
And this
https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1005769107 the Congo has the clade that has a 10% case fatality rate.
This was posted by Mike Yeadon on his Telegram re how things will play out this time around.
[Forwarded from StormCloudsGathering]
Some people are expecting the Monkey Pox scam to play out exactly like COVID (with lockdowns and vaccine mandates for employment and venues. This is a mistake. The enemy has adjusted their strategy. Many will be caught off guard.
Instead of the general lockdowns and mandates we saw during covid, this time they will track and trace extensively; targeting individuals and their contacts with long quarantines and ring vaccination. The psychology used will be formidable and much more difficult to resist. Many who refused to comply in round one will fold.
Ring vaccination means that anyone caught up in their contact tracing will be detained by specially trained teams, isolated and pressured / forced to take the vaccine. In some countries force will be used early on, but even in jurisdictions where one is not legally obligated to comply the pressure that these teams apply will be extreme. The long quarantines will add an additional incentive to give in. When the only way to avoid extended house arrest (and eventually quarantine camps) is to accept the jab, compliance can… Read more »
Good frightener. Do you work for the Project Fear team?
Whatever it will be like, it won’t be exactly the same as the Covid-19 scam – that is for sure.
Compulsory ring vaccination would require ID-ing us in shops, including non-smartphone carriers.
My take precisely – if you don’t have a smart phone how do they get you?
Co-incidentally I did notice in todays’ news that power rationing is to begin early in 2023 – in January? the coldest month of the year? looks designed to finish off some vulnerable old people.
https://telemetr.io/en/channels/1709446932-covidtruthnet/posts/3633
Looks like more monkey business involving the same Fauci-funded Wuhan lab that brought us the joys of Sars-COV2, according to documentation released in February, a couple of months before mass media started going ape.
Probably not THE next pandemic, more likely a stepping stone to the “one that will get really get our attention”, forecast by smirking Bill Gates a few months back (If the vaccines messiah with the WHO in his bulging back pocket doesn’t know what’s around the corner, nobody does).
Meanwhile, expect the Big Pharma/Government-sponsored mass media to continue licking the hands that feed by stoking the fear and compliance agenda.
https://greatgameindia.com/wuhan-lab-monkeypox/
9am – open Daily Sceptic and scare yourself silly – end of the world, nuclear armageddon.
10am – go to Tesco’s to do your shopping.
Ah so Mikkip over on the other comments section just cut and pasted Yeadon’s Telegram post and passed it off as their own? And here’s me thinking that was some new bonkers poster when I should have given full credit to Dr Mike! LOL Oh dear Mike. Fortune favours the brave but I think you’re coming across decidedly more ‘crackpotish’ as time goes by. Soon you’ll be losing all credibility. I used to defend you but this post is just next level bat-shit crazy. No offence intended.
Thanks Admin for binning the Captchca doofah <thumbs up>
If I never have to click a fire hydrant/cycle/car/taxi/bridge/steps/traffic light ever again it’ll be too soon!
Google or whoever probably have enough info about the unique signature of how you click on Captchas by now.
I must have my settings correct, I get a security warning if I log into a google site telling me a new unique device is using my account.
Seconded.
Was getting a bit fed up of straining ny eyes to spot them. I have got used to my long but hopefully safe password now though…
P.S. Good morning, good morning!
I get by frustrated by how much of a taxi, traffic light etc spilling over onto another tile constitutes it being a tile with that object in. Seems a guessing game at best.
Seconded – there was one occasion when it took me over 3 goes to get into the site – I almost gave up
the things they were asking me to verify were in some cases miniscule and i didn’t have a magnifying glass to hand LOL