Yesterday, SAGE and the NHS Federation raised the alarm about the Government’s plans to phase out all Covid restrictions. Today, it’s the turn of the BMA. All we need now is a joint letter from the authors of the John Snow Memorandum and we’ll have the full set. MailOnline has more on the latest doom-mongering.
The end of COVID-19 restrictions in England is premature and “not based on current evidence”, according to the British Medical Association.
Experts have warned an absence of testing and self-isolation will lead to a surge in cases in the country.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he will present his plan for ‘living with Covid’ when Parliament returns from a short recess on February 21st, with an aim of lifting the requirement to self-isolate by February 24th.
Dr. Chaand Nagpaul, chair of the BMA council, told the Guardian the decision was “not based on current evidence and is premature”, adding: “It clearly hasn’t been guided by data or done in consultation with the healthcare profession.”
He said case rates remained exceptionally high, with one in 20 infected last week, according to the latest Office for National Statistics survey.
The Government has formed a strategy for living with Covid, which is expected to include the scrapping of free mass testing.
Meanwhile, all the indicators suggest Omicron is on the way out.
Yesterday it was revealed UK Health Security Agency bosses logged 47,685 positive tests over the past 24 hours, a fifth down on last week’s count.
The rolling seven-day average number of daily cases, considered a more accurate measure, has dipped to below 47,000, mirroring levels seen at the start of December before Omicron had properly taken off.
Daily hospital admissions across the UK have fallen by 8% over the same time-frame as the pressure on the NHS continues to recede. And deaths have fallen by 18%, with 158 victims recorded today.
What was that about the decision to lift restrictions not being guided by data, Dr. Chaand Nagpaul?
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Tell all of these ‘experts’ to bugger off and mind their own business.
They’ve already stolen two years of people’s lives, particularly children, and anything they espouse now should be ridiculed.
I gets weary,and sick of trying
I’m tired of living,but scared of dying
That Ol’ project fear
It just keeps rollin along
The only tenable reason for this is that they simply do not want to give up control.
As a lockdown fanatic and mask-wearing advocate, I’ve never seen or come across a public image of Dr Chaand Nagpaul in a face mask or nappy. Why not? if they work?
Dr Chaand Nagpaul as a lockdown fanatic and mask-wearing advocate, I’ve never seen or come across a public image of Dr Chaand Nagpaul in a face mask or nappy. Why not? if they work?
Corrected Post!!
Surely the BMA has been discredited time and again?
I would like to live in a country where you can trust people in authority sadly that is just pie in the sky
I have lost any respect I once had for most of the politicians, teachers, nhs, police – through this whole debacle there have been a very small number of people representing the above with integrity but sadly it is a very small, minute number. I know peoples jobs are on the line when they speak out and I understand they have mortgages and families to support but at what cost? How can these people look themselves in the mirror knowing the carnage they are causing! How can these people sleep at night knowing what they’ve done and all the deaths and destruction they are responsible for? On the other hand I have huge respect for those who have called it all out at great personal cost people of integrity- I thank you.
I don’t know where Nagpaul is getting his data from but it’s definitely not from the government’s own site – he’s obviously seen Ferguson and asked him for some figures because we all know how accurate he’s been not just over this scamdemic but also… Read more »
The surge in cases will be entirely due to the vaccines which degrade the immune system. So what these fouls have promoted all thru 2021 is the real cause of what they now say is the reason for further lockdowns and other nonsense restrictions. One useless and strongly adverse measure justifies the other? When will we come to our senses and sack these morons?
I’ve said this before, why the bloody hell doesn’t Boris exert his authority over these people. They act like they run the country. He needs to remove them and immediately.
Johnson will only ‘exert’ his ‘authority’ when he feels the hot breath of his backbenchers.
The BMA is more damaging to the UK than the NUM ever was
why is the BMA always the last to know? You would have thought, doctors directing all of our medical care, would be right on top of the data. Once again, it appears they are the last to know. Another draconian professional organisation refusing to accept reality.
BMA – now a totally discredited organisation.
I hate Sage when I first heard of them I did not realise they were behavioural scientists I was totally against the lockdown, I then realised by June 2020 you can lock away a virus that kills the elderly and obese ,
You can not stop people meeting for two years having relationships, meeting with friends or going to work mainly close the boarders for 8 months test infectious people showing symptoms quarantine the sick , yes Sage want to crash the economy .
They are absolutely insane one such is a Mathematician not a epidemiologist , and one is a behavioural scientist and communist by the name of Susan Mitchie possibly Sage are still around for communist interests after all we are not
in a pandemic never were it is like these unelected psychos are running our once beautiful country instead of the fat blonde Buffon.
Our country in the 60’s and 70’s was, arguably, a lot worse than it is now.
I was a policeman in the 70’s & 80’s. The cry then was too many police on the streets interfering with our civil liberties.
Today the cry is for more coppers on the beat because our civil liberties are infringed by criminals.
Life gets funnier as one gets older.
I do not agree the 80’s Madonna Wham ABC love the music politicians and wish I was young then a moral society also the 70’s 60’s society was more family orientated I hardly see a English born woman push a pram these days full of children disturbing a much better Politician running the country a true Conservative Covid is real but a Psuedopandemic hardly the black death being fit healthy exercising doing weights three to four times a week eating fruits vegetables fish is better than a experimental vaccine, I think young people yet some are very compliant have been treated awfully .
Those covid deaths would mostly be old people who would have died anyway and also who will have children if the young sacrifice their lives for old people they do not live with it is young old masked outside in the fresh air and in their car,
either age near me both ages are not awakening to the globalist nightmare that awakes them the Queen who should die and accept she cannot live forever has no right to call young healthy people under 80 selfish for rejecting genre therapy,
Also I do not think life… Read more »
They are truly disgusting I am truly disgusted to be British just been out with some friends about 8 people walked in wearing a mask in a pub one never took it off one woman to drink only she walks around the bar she would never remove it is this human if this is the New Normal, I want to leave England I cannot accept the new normal I am highly angry my life has been taken away I know everyone’s has but I have more of it .
I am 30 this Year I saw one man on a empty bus wearing a face mask, help us,
I did not elect them the WHO NHS I actually voted Labour I always thought they were middle class people more for bankers and lawyers but elected Jeremy Corbyn he seemed genuine in improving the lives of ordinary people I am never voting for any of this communist’s and globalists ever again Labour Conservative Lib Dem Green no way .
I understand what you are saying. However I think it is bigger than being ashamed to be British. I am ashamed to be a homosapien. Plus, where would you go to get away from the bullshit? England (not the other British nations) seems to be one of the least awful western countries to be in right now, probably thanks to us having a useless, fat, lazy porker spending all his efforts on retaining his position at the trough.
99-100% face masks here in Finland! You don’t want to be coming here!
Have patience my friend. This will blow over, as all the other catastrophes over my lifetime have blown over.
I have witnessed first hand the fallout from Mao’s Great Leap Forward, experienced the Cuban missile crisis, the assassination of JFK and his brother, the cold war, the fall of the Berlin wall, the Falklands, AIDS, the Miners strikes, 9/11, Tony Blair/George Bush and the Iraq war, the rise and fall of the EU,Afghanistan, Brexit, the ongoing Middle East crisis and, of course, straddling them all, the climate change hoax, amongst many others.
They all brought with them national hysteria, and then largely fizzled out to nothing – other than the loss of many servicemen’s lives over the years.
Although i doesn’t seem like it sometimes, we still live in one of the best country’s in the world, if not the best, other than our lousy weather.
None of the above had whole populations walking round in face masks.
Agree with both RedHotScot and you. The other things missing from all the other problems mentioned were 24hr rolling news with ignorant journalists giving us the benefits of their inexperience rather than reporting the facts and the parasitic organisations called social media. The latter are nothing more than an extreme minority revelling in the ability to share their ignorance in an echo chamber of like minded saddos, whose only impact is to fill the pockets of weirdos like Zuck Berg and the Yorkshire horse fly
FFP2 is on everyone’s lips – literally and metaphorically – in Western Europe…
I suspect Mao’s great leap forward was an order of magnitude more damaging to Chinese society than the face nappy fetish ever could be. However, apart from that you are correct.
Add the exporting of manufacturing eastwards, the appeasement of Putin, AGWCC Ball Locks, and the simmering, still, powder keg of the Balkans.
UK is an outlier to all of this and especially what is going on throughout the EU where CV Frightening and Fairy stories is heavily in play and very unlikely to go away anytime soon. View Worldmeters for the most current “data”….
Experts – the revised version.
Experts during an economic boom:
This boom is going to last forever!
Experts during a depression:
This depression is going to last forever!
Experts during the covid bullshit:
This covid bullshit is going to last forever! It has to! I’m making money off it!
Mark Dolan just called the lack of support for the truckers a cosy Covid consensus….More like a cosy WEF consensus.
Ah…. on the boaters’ forum some are beginning to see the light:
“Here’s the craic. Almost 9 billion people on the planet, with western cultures using up virtually all resources – totally unsustainable. Introduce a ‘vaccine’ that does not give immunity to a virus that has an average age of death of 82 years, that half the population of the entire world has now taken, most voluntarily because they were frightened or coerced into it.
Give the manufacturers total indemnity against any action for adverse effects or deaths. Blame the unjabbed for prolonging the pandemic. Avoid having an unjabbed control group so everything can be blamed on a variant and the unjabbed instead of the jabs themselves. Reduce the world population by at least half within a short time frame.”
And when anything negative related to the vaccine occurs, tell them that what you put in your body was your own decision
the problem I see with this theory is that it would result in total economic collapse and those at the top, who the theory says are driving this, have their wealth tied up in stocks and would be bankrupted with the rest of us.
Total economic collapse is on its way, anyway. The elite rich have made provisions for this, bought up land and will have private armies (a reversion to feudalism). They will still retain power and live lives of luxury, and their descendants’ resources will last a lot longer – indeed, they might even be sustainable.
HRA Reform – Tips for responding
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/human-rights-act-reform-a-modern-bill-of-rights/human-rights-act-reform-a-modern-bill-of-rights-consultation
Some points you might like to consider, and paraphrase in your own response if you resonate with these:
1. The “Modern Bill of Rights” you propose MUST NOT contradict, contravene, or in any way reduce the rights of any human being already established in UK’s existing body of laws. If it does, it will be unconstitutional in whole or in part.
2. The most important human right is bodily integrity. That means NO bodily interference without fully informed consent, freely given. The right to bodily integrity, therefore, MUST be included as an UNQUALIFIED right in any “Modern Bill of Rights.”
3. Attempts to prevent frivolous or dubious human rights claims (for example, a sociopathic/psychopathic killer wishing to avoid extradition/deportation by claiming a right to family life, his family being his cat or dog) MUST be addressed only by the discretion and wisdom of the courts, on a case by case basis and NOT by prescriptive legislation, because the latter will inevitably lead to unintended consequences (for example, if society became conditioned in the future to believe that mass vaccination was more important than bodily integrity or informed consent, then a “permission stage” could… Read more »
We now know that ‘experts’ are not what they used to be, their motives need to be investigated thoroughly
Hello SAGE. This is boring and made up. Get a life and don’t bother with mine.
Yours, unvaxxed, forever.
“Dr. Chaand Nagpaul, chair of the BMA council, told the Guardian the decision was “not based on current evidence and is premature”, adding: “It clearly hasn’t been guided by data or done in consultation with the healthcare profession.””
This dumb B’stard presumably swallowed the Ferguson potion and believes that not enough damage has been done to the economy and the mental health of the country.
What the moron doesn’t consider which, to his credit, Boris now seems to be thinking of, is balancing the risk to public health with the risk of reducing the country to a third world nation.
And where was the idiot when the ‘revelation’ was made that vitamin D was the first line of defence against covid? Nowhere, that’s where.
And whilst I’m at it, will the Guardian fall under the auspices of the online misinformation bill that’s being considered. If there was ever an entity that needs to be brought to heel for its hysterical, catastrophising proclamations its that useless rag.
“reducing the country to a third world nation.”
Perhaps he’d feel more at home when the UK is more like his native India?
You mean the India that’s the largest democracy in the world. The India with a nuclear deterrent. The India with a space program the UK doesn’t have. The India that owns much of the steelmaking in the UK. The India that owns JLR. The India that, as an emerging economy, is probably the only one capable of taking on China as an industrial nation.
Criticise him as an individual, but don’t criticise him as an Indian.
Experts.
So-called experts.
‘Experts’ < —–we are here
Lying criminal scum.
We’re getting there, slowly.
So you say “Dr. Alexander, you keep raising concern about the vaccines, where is the proof? Is there any evidence? Anything, a study or two besides what you, McCullough, Malone, Tenenbaum, Risch say?
Where is the evidence?
Take a look!!
https://palexander.substack.com/p/so-you-say-dr-alexander-you-keep
Every medical quango and organisation from the WHO down is owned by Fauci Gates Pharmafia. That is all that you need to know. It’s now bleeding obvious to the dogs on the street.
See The Lancet, MHRA, JCVI. Woeful anti health anti human organisations.
Off topic in a sense – but not really because the Clown World created by TRPTB – including the dimwits in the BMA are complicit :-
Apparently 3 Canadians killed in last 24 hours by the Police put there by Trudeau.
Just seen it on the BBC.
As if…
Oh, and not a peep from our “government”.
Two members of the commonwealth, Canada and Australia, being taken over by tyrannical regimes brutalising her subjects and not a peep from the Queen.
The Aussie state has even deployed weapons of war against their people in the form of directable sonic devices fitted to the roofs of 4×4’s.
She can afford to pay off a sexual victim of Andrew’s with £12m of our money, but can’t bring herself to condemn Trudeau and Morrison for their behaviour.
Long overdue that this useless institution was gone.
Queen Nicola. You may kiss her ring.
“pay off a sexual victim of Andrew’s”…..Not sure if she’s a victim after bragging about banging a prince and getting now two payouts, but agree with the rest.
A five year old can brag about being banged by an adult, but the fact remains, the adult is responsible for his/her actions, not the child.
Aye but she was not under the legal age in the UK. don’t get me wrong, I wanted to see the court case. Maybe he can prove that he can’t sweat LOL.
Chaand Nagpaul and the BMA need to be phased out.
Why does the UK have to fund the covid paranoia of the SNP
God these people are full of absolute b****cks. They conveniently forget (deliberately) how many times (every occasion they pontificated) they got it wrong, and spectaculalrly so.
But the problem is that the sheep don’t
BREATHTAKING ADMISSIONS ABOUT VACCINES FROM WHO
My first reaction to reading Dr Chaand ‘psychopath’ Nagpaul’s statement was to find who the hell he is. I did my standard first search for ‘Dr Chaand Nagpaul Gates Foundation’ that revealed the following link https://overvaccinationepidemic.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/vaccine-induced-immunity-what-does-the-future-hold-if-vaccines-fail.pdf
The 4 page article begins with the following quote from Heidi Larson, Director of the Vaccine Confidence project “”…We’ve shifted the human population…to dependency on vaccine-induced immunity…We’re in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations”.
This seemed a strange admission of doubt so I dug further. At the end of the article is a link to Larson’s plenary lecture transcript, for which you need a google account to read so I searched for this specifically and discovered the following bombshell: https://ahrp.org/scientists-at-who-global-summit-confirm-the-absence-of-vaccine-safety-science/ which contains statements like these:
Dr. Larson acknowledged that what is being dismissed as “misinformation” is NOT misinformation – and that’s the problem.” She expressed grave concern that “
“the issue of loss of trust is not only loss of confidence by parents in medical authorities, but that loss of confidence by healthcare providers” i.e., physicians who are also questioning vaccine safety – “is a huge problem”. “If… Read more »
Very useful research.
Nexxxt…c’mon down…
This comic strip has cheered up my evening.
I’d be interested to know which if any, of the many insults we’ve borne during covid, was based on ‘current evidence’:
Masks – ‘don’t bother’ changed to ‘masks are mandatory’.
Distancing – Some countries had 1 metre social distancing, some 1.5 and we had 2 metres.
Handwashing and gels – while nobody should baulk at basic hygiene, we’ve been inundated with instructions on how to wash hands, sterilise things before use and slathering everything in alcohol-based gels. All this without evidence of covid transmission through surface contact.
Lockdowns – took place in spite of existing WHO advice that they were of no use during pandemics.
Vaccination – using rushed-to-approval ‘vaccines’ with unknown long-term effects. So safe that some have been withdrawn for use for some age groups.
Saving the NHS – while watching friends and neighbours died due to lack of diagnosis and treatment. Not to mention all those who died in hospitals and care homes unvisited because of ‘rules’
Protecting the vulnerable – sending untested elderly patients back to care homes to infect others.
All in all, it’s been a pretty torrid two years for ‘current evidence’.