The scientific modellers who warned that Britain had little option but to impose severe restrictions or face tens of thousands of deaths from Omicron were last night in retreat – although they haven’t yet admitted they were wrong about every previous variant as well. MailOnline has more.
First, modellers who advise the Government said winter deaths from the highly transmissible variant would be “substantially” lower than they had originally believed, then Independent SAGE, a group of Left-leaning scientists who have pushed for lockdowns, distanced themselves from the need to impose further curbs.
Before Christmas, epidemiologists at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine produced a series of dire scenarios in which they warned Omicron could lead to between 25,000 and 75,000 deaths by the end of April.
Dr. Nick Davies said that he and his team were working on revised scenarios that will soon be presented to scientific advisers and senior civil servants.
Tory MP William Wragg, a member of the party’s Covid Recovery Group, said the U-turn provided evidence that many in the scientific community had been too gloomy about the threat from coronavirus.
“Once again, it appears that certain scientists and experts so quick to spread gloom and panic at the arrival of Omicron are having to come to terms with a reality that is far from the catastrophe they were predicting,” he said.
“It all shows that Boris Johnson and his Cabinet were right to avoid condemning us to another lockdown with the dismal effects on people’s livelihoods and liberties.”
The School of Hygiene’s team built its original models – published on December 11th – on the assumption that Omicron was as naturally lethal as the Delta strain, meaning it would kill the same proportion of unvaccinated people who had not been exposed to Covid before.
Dr. Davies argued that while South African doctors were already finding Omicron appeared to be less severe, the reports were “anecdotal” so the School of Hygiene’s supposition was “a reasonable assumption to make at the time”.
Over the past month, however, considerable evidence has built up that Omicron is less dangerous. This includes statistical studies by Imperial College London, Edinburgh University and the U.K. Health Security Agency, as well as research from South Africa and Denmark. Laboratory studies have also found Omicron is less adept at infecting the lungs.
Dr. Davies said the December model had assumed that once a patient ended up in hospital with Omicron, their chance of needing intensive care and dying was the same as with Delta – which has proved to be incorrect.
“We now know that doesn’t seem to be at all the case, as people are ending up in hospital with Omicron, but they are not requiring critical care [to the same extent as with Delta],” he said. “The deaths number will come down very substantially [compared with original estimates].”
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: According to Gordon Rayner in the Telegraph, questions are now being asked about why SAGE’s modellers – and England’s Chief Medical Officer – were so dismissive of the evidence from South Africa three weeks ago showing Omicron was “very, very mild” and wouldn’t result in a big uptick in hospital admissions.
Stop Press 2: Daily Covid cases across Britain have fallen for the fourth day in a row and are down 6.7% compared to last Sunday. MailOnline has more.



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They’ve never got anything right and should be sacked without any compensation.
They refused to accept the info from Angelique Coetzee because a) she is not a member of sage or nervtag and b) because what could the Head of South africa”s health service know about anything? Their arrogance and stupidity their bias and lies have cost ever-y person in the UK very dear both physically, mentally, educationally and economically, but who will take them down.They ought to be barred from ever speaking in public again or giving any opinions
Answer to recent email to MP pointing out the undeniable fact that his – several times stated and still seemingly unwavering – support for this Governments SARS COV2 policies is no longer tenable and citing what that is, and has been so.
This is the reply: has anyone else had this or similar? And this is a person who has personally and financially profited from his supply and ancillary actions by being promoted a while ago to PuSoS….ie. salary increase….
“Hello,
Thank you for your email regarding Covid-19 measures.
It is something I have received a lot of emails on over recent weeks, across the spectrum in terms of differing views and opinions. Ranging from some who would like a complete removal of any and all measures, to others who support the introduction of more measures and possible lockdowns.
As such, it is unlikely I or the Government will be able to satisfy all concerns with this response and the actions taken, but I will set out my own thoughts and position on this.
I support measures which are proportionate and balanced, which take account of the status of the virus and the impact this is having.
Key to understanding… Read more »
Nothing will change until these public sector people are subject to the same analysis, performance measurements and sanctions as the private sector. Most normal people would be fired for this level of incompetence and ineptitude.
At the very least Whitty, Vallance, Ferguson etc should publicly apologise for their errors. Whitty is personally responsible for massive losses of income and perhaps some bankruptcies over Christmas by scaring people into staying away and cancelling Christmas parties based on inaccurate and plainly wrong scaremongering. If he and the others faced sanctions they would be more careful with their forecasts.
AND they should be MADE to acknowledge publicly their conflicts of interest. I mean ”publicly” – not just some obscure ”well, yeah, okay, a few shares – whoh’evah” sort of thing.
They’re NOT ”cases”.
And obsessive testing has slowed down. The addicts must be running around like headless chickens.
“Dr. Davies argued that while South African doctors were already finding Omicron appeared to be less severe, the reports were “anecdotal” so the School of Hygiene’s supposition was ‘a reasonable assumption to make at the time'”. And that’s the critical point, that the modelers dismissed evidence, when it should be the other way round, with evidence dismissing the models. It has been like this all the way through, with models, ‘belief’, money and power being dominant over evidence and rationality. None of the the govt’s (or oppositions, or media’s) pandemic responses have been driven or even guided by rational thought.
If you ASSUME you make an ASS out of U and ME
The “woollen” jumpsuit of SARS COV2 government responses is unravelling daily, e.g. Aussie retired medic slaughtering in print his State’s Labor (sic) Minister, ONS et al data showing this is now all about jabbed infecting the rest, Government Ministers lying about the incidence of jabbed WITH CV19 vs unjabbed in ICU using demonstrably out of date data and La Dorries using a minutely representative data set and extrapolating it to the WHOLE NHS with no explanation how she reaches that conclusion, acceptance that Omicron is EXACTLY as described by the SA Doctor, Joel Smalley and his fellow Statos shredding the CMO/CSO/SAGE “official” interpretation, GB News interviewing Robert Malone and Mike Yeadon, NHS unjabbed Consultant giving Javed an object lesson in “vaccination” verisimilitude….
And now we “hear” that from March, “things” will be very very different.
Not the most insightful comment but PREDICTION: Nudge Unit and SAGE will be rewriting history and their previous criminality to demonstrate how well their policy decisions “worked”…watch for articles, TV adverts and the like …”getting their witness statements in early”.
Fixed that for you
“Wolf, wolf! there’s a big, bad wolf ……. run and hide.”
“yeah, wotever.”
The graph showing weekly moving average cases down by 6.7 percent does not tell the whole story. In a game where a day matters a seven day moving average is by definition three and a half days late and if that average is delayed three days to enable full data gathering and there is a further day late in publication the figures will be almost meaningless. The day on day figures for my part of Scotland show a drop of almost a half. The figures for Scotland as a whole are over 50%
Parliament, with the exception of the Covid Recovery Group abdicated its scrutiny function from the start of the pandemic. These models are deeply flawed and have led to unnecessary restrictions and hardships being introduced across the globe. Most implausable of all was the idea that thousands of deaths could have been prevented “if only we had locked down sooner”. A lie endorsed by Jeremy Hunt’s incompetent Health Select Committee among others. It is essential that these mathematical models are deconstructed and exposed for what they are: wild guesswork if we are to avoid a similar situation ever happening again.
Should Imperial College refund the £millions received in fees from government for this erroreous work as well as for BSE, Foot and mouth, SARS and MERS?
They’ve been wrong about everything else too
Why change the habit of a Pandemic?
They’ve been wrong about everything every time.
However it suited Johnson Javid (a very dangerous big reset man) Gove ect to carry on fearmongering and laying down restrictions.
Easier to govern that way without scrutiny and they will of course be lining their pockets whatever happens.
Maybe it’s just that their assigned role is to be fatalistic and wrong – so that bozo can “outshine” them and appear as pursuing a “measured response”. I mean, that would be a mutually beneficial arrangement.
All computer models say what they are programmed to say. Models are not magic working crystal balls. The model designers/programmers wanted a frightening result, so that’s what they coded the models to produce.
“Rubbish in, garbage out”
And the idiots in Government were scared shitless so they chose to listen to an organisation that had been catastrophically wrong with all their forecasts on foot and mouth, BSE, SARS, Bird flu etc.
It’s more likely they weren’t scared by any modelled scenarios but actively promoted them and used them to justify the draconian restrictions preceding the vaxx programme. It is the funding behind the depts producing these outrageously overblown projections which reveals the global actors pulling the levers. Nothing has happened because the government were scared in to it.
Our healthcare system is about to experience a tsunami! Potential side effects of jabs include chronic inflammation, because the vaccine continuously stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies. Other concerns include the possible integration of plasmid DNA into the body’s host genome, resulting in mutations, problems with DNA replication, triggering of autoimmune responses, and activation of cancer-causing genes. Alternative COVID cures EXIST. Ivermectin is one of them. While Ivermectin is very effective curing COVID symptoms, it has also been shown to eliminate certain cancers. Do not get the poison jab. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
About everything – as planned.
Very similar going on in Australia now. Here is the NSW data.
I just realized that the ‘case’ rate in NSW (population ~8 million) is roughly double that of the UK! Yay us!
“SAGE Gloomsters.” That’s cute.
Let’s not make light of the destruction they’ve wrought. Purposely wrought.
Also, let’s not make light of the authorities who blindly followed the advice of these shysters, the media which egged them on with fear porn, the pharma companies and their tame politicians, the medical establishment that said nothing (or worse, who cheered) when the long established pandemic protocols were swept aside in a second, the giant finance companies who pulled the strings in the background …
Chart Title “Number of infections etc”
Pie in the sky given this
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/926410/Understanding_Cycle_Threshold__Ct__in_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf
“RT-PCR detects presence of viral genetic material in a sample but is not able to
distinguish whether infectious virus is present. The quantity of intact virus in upper
respiratory swabs will be affected by factors that are endogenous and exogenous to
laboratory methods.”
Exactly. Just to emphasise (as it has been in the actual document), “…but is not able to distinguish whether infectious virus is present.”
And there you have it. The government admission of the whole covid fraud exposed in less than one sentence.
Just let that sink in.
Here’s an “anecdotal report” for you, SAGE:
Among the hundreds of acquaintances of the 10 adults in our immediate family we know of only one death from Covid, suffered by an obese diabetic man who was denied proper treatment early in 2020.
In contrast, we know over a dozen healthy, active persons who have died suddenly, strangely, and inexplicably, shortly after getting the shots. And a half dozen others who have precipitously slipped into their dotage, come out of cancer remission, or developed an autoimmune disease.
These ‘modelers’ must be the ‘experts’ that asswipe Javid thinks know better than highly qualified medics.
Anyone seen Susan michie 🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here it is!
What a revolting looking bint. But as she’s a champagne communist I guess that doesn’t matter?
Do we deduce that Boris is now aware of the source of all the mumbo jumbo?
I don’t wish to denigrate GP’s, the NHS, scientists or the public but I know a lot of people who, even before covid19 was flagged up, would have been on the phone to their GP at the drop of a hat if they discovered so much as a spot on their bum. What surprises me is that anyone was surprised by the government’s usual ‘you caught us completely off guard again’ response to contain the spread of this nonsense. I really wonder, in this instantly connected day and age, whether we’re expecting too much from a bunch of people who at the best of times seem completely incapable of managing or running things in any coherent manner. They must themselves question why they still exist, I certainly do. We need to find a new way to manage our affairs without them, asap.
Pills vs Lifestyle
Presumably the downtick is from a fatty.
🤣 🤣
Another public step in the oh-so-gradual walkback.
If I was the chief clown, I’d make sure that there are plenty of “we over-estimated” and “we only wanted to protect citizens” quotes from the Whitty/Vallance/Sage/UKHSA brigade. The health secretary has already made sure that everyone knows they’re not his decisions, that he takes “advice from experts” in that Kings consultant/Sky video that everyone and his dog must have seen by now.
Sajid Jabit wasn’t walking back when he attempted to discredit Steve James Consultant Anaesthetist with a doubling down jab promotion piece in today’s Mail on Sunday.
Haven’t seen (and won’t) the MoS piece, but I did go and look at the Mail Online’s piece on the MoS piece (strained, I know) having seen your reply. It’s full of known-to-be-nonsense, like ‘90% of ITU patients are unjabbed’, that Jabbit’s boss has had to retract. God knows who wrote Jabbit’s drivel for him. No-one believes that anymore, not even MoS readers.
I did post elsewhere that the walkback will be glacial … two steps forward, at least one and a half back, certainly to begin with. It’ll have to be if they don’t want to be lynched.
Sorry if I’m a glass half full sort of person.
Testmania
Mixed messages are going out in Britain today about testmania. Is it about to be called off, at least for the time being? Or will it continue? Who knows?
Perhaps somebody is about to ask “Where did all those billions of pounds actually go?” Let’s hope so. Apparently £6bn has been spent pocketed on the production, distribution and administration of the tests themselves, not counting all the consequential damages which may well have cost even more. I don’t think the £500 payments are included in the £6bn figure either, so the actual “cost” could easily have been £10bn or £20bn so far.
In one month – 10 or 20 billion pounds. Whooooosh! That would be huge even for a weapons contract supplied over several years. The “health” sector is much bigger than “defence” (in both Britain and the US), but still, this is biiiiig. That size of contract or group of contracts will certain come with a large PR expenditure, whatever the sector.
From a behavioural conditioning point of view, the critical assessment must surely be that testmania has been a great success. Millions of people get told “Put a stick up your nose to see whether you’ve got… Read more »
Love this ….
Instant Karma …
https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1480042600388128771