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Great Barrington Authors Hit Back At Collins and Fauci

by Noah Carl
3 January 2022 9:28 AM

A few weeks ago, emails obtained via FOI request revealed how America’s most senior government scientists sought to discredit the Great Barrington Declaration. In particular, the email below was sent by Francis Collins (former director of the National Institutes of Health) to Anthony Fauci:

Amazingly, Collins refers to the authors of the Declaration as “three fringe epidemiologists”, despite the fact that they held positions at Harvard, Stanford and Oxford respectively. (If even Harvard professors are considered “fringe”, there isn’t much hope for the rest of us…)

The use of “fringe” is particularly egregious when you consider that lockdowns represent a radical departure from the pre-Covid science. As Fauci himself stated on the January 24th last year: “Historically when you shut things down it doesn’t have a major effect.”

Collins then wrote, “There needs to be a quick and devastating takedown of its premise.” Which sounds like the sort of thing a PR consultant would say – not a supposedly neutral scientist. Further details of the exchange can be found in this article by Phil Magness, who actually obtained the emails.

Now two of the Great Barrington authors have hit back at Collins and Fauci. Writing in the Epoch Times, Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya say that their critics “got the pandemic strategy they advocated for, and they own the results”. As the two professors explain:

Lockdowns protected young low-risk affluent work-from-home professionals, such as administrators, scientists, professors, journalists, and lawyers, while older high-risk members of the working class were exposed and died in unnecessarily high numbers. This failure to understand that lockdowns could not protect the vulnerable led to the tragically high death counts from Covid.

Kulldorff and Bhattacharya’s piece offers a clear and forthright defence of the Great Barrington Declaration. Worth reading in full.

Tags: Anthony FauciFrancis CollinsGreat Barrington Declaration

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Jeff Chambers
Jeff Chambers
23 days ago

The madleft clown-worlders view of the world is that they think that we need fewer cows and sheep but unlimited immigrants.

Last edited 23 days ago by Jeff Chambers
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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
23 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

Hmm, think the immigrant problem might be solved if we become the only country in the world living under the conditions outlined above!

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mrbu
mrbu
23 days ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

Book me a ticket on the last flight out!

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Hardliner
Hardliner
22 days ago
Reply to  mrbu

…first…

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soundofreason
soundofreason
22 days ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

A halal butchers near us was raided a couple of years ago. They found sheep carcasses which had identification tags from a local farm which had been suffering thefts. If meat becomes scarce and expensive expect even less observance of food production regulations.

Horsemeat in ready-meal lasagne? That’ll be the least of our worries.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

Standing by for this to be reported on BBC1 in 3-2-1

oops, how strange…

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MrVeryAngry
MrVeryAngry
22 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

Are they intimating that we eat the immigrants? Even though we do have an immigrant issue, I, personally am not up for that.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
23 days ago

Why can’t they just leave the people alone to live their lives unabused!

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Claphamanian
Claphamanian
23 days ago
Reply to  Dinger64

‘They’ wouldn’t have anything to manage if they let people alone.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
22 days ago
Reply to  Claphamanian

‘Manage’ is overstating it.

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Hester
Hester
23 days ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Becasue they believe they know better than us. To them we are the sheep and they are the shepherds. The truth is we are the beasts and they are the slaughterers in the slaughter house.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
22 days ago
Reply to  Hester

But what will happen to the sheep?

Ah.

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
23 days ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Socialists never leave you alone. You might make your own decisions and live better.

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Claphamanian
Claphamanian
23 days ago

The Michelin-starred chefs will have a ‘challenge’ to produce anything creative from whatever is left after all these foods are eliminated. At least eliminated from production in the UK itself. China will be expanding into dairy to supply the black market with it all.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
23 days ago
Reply to  Claphamanian

Having recently watched an episode of Traffic Cops where they discovered bags and bags of cocaine in the back of someone’s car, I’m now imagining a similar scenario related to cheese. “Have you had any cheese in the last 24 hours, mate?” “What, me, cheese? Oh no officer, don’t touch the stuff” “That’s funny, because your car absolutely stinks of camembert” etc etc.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
23 days ago

My trigger finger is itching, metaphorically of course.

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
22 days ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

No metaphors here, if they wish to take away the food we evolved to eat in preference to green slop then that is an existential threat. It should be met in kind with extreme prejudice.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
22 days ago
Reply to  Tyrbiter

You’re quite right of course but luckily here in Italy this shit doesn’t seem to be such an issue, and because I presume MI5 monitor comment threads like this I think it is good practice to be a little bit careful when it comes to armed violence.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
23 days ago

Net Zero, Absolute Zero, Zero-Sum Games – academia’s Klimate-Kommissar Humanity-Haters leading The Great Leap Backwards to the nirvana of 2050’s Year Zero.

No limit to the evil these academician berks come up with in order to get their rocks off Telling Other People What To Do.

Someone please send for a length of sturdy rope and directions to the nearest street lamp.

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DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
23 days ago
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Most modern street lamps do not have much of a horizontal arm. I wonder why?

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
23 days ago

Would love to know how Professor Julian Allwood currently lives his life. Just taking a punt here, but I’m willing to bet he does not live according to his principles (i.e. in a mud hut, wearing clothing made from worm casts or something similar, no transport, no holidays, no medical treatment unless it involves herbs, no TV, computers or mobile phones, no use of anything that is hydrocarbon-derived…).

Personally I think these plans are too mad for all but the maddest Net Zero advocates and unlikely to come to fruition, but it’s still worrying that this is officially out there.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
23 days ago

Net Zero Bans Meat and Dairy

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Heretic
Heretic
23 days ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

And fish.

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DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
23 days ago

And if it turned out that climate change was driven by solar cycles and orbital mechanics – and that carbon dioxide had a trivial effect – would The Zealots That Be change their policies back to the ‘good old days’ or would they press on with their authoritarian control?

I think we know the answer – keeping your own chickens could be a revolutionary act.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
23 days ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

No chance – chickens all dutifully registered according to current regulation, and whole national flock culled the next time a pet gerbil catches bird flu in Guatemala.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
22 days ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Yes but if you have your own hens and a cockerel and a suitable incubator they have no chance of controlling your numbers. You just need a bit of space and intelligent management.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
23 days ago

I was a young man back in the 1960s.
Well, you made your own amusement then, going to the pictures.
When the travel was hard – and I mean we still used the wheel –
But you could sit down at your table and eat a real food meal.
(Incredible String Band prophecy, 1967)

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Hester
Hester
23 days ago

I wonder how he lives? Does he live in a home made of bricks? cement? wood? Or is he doing the responsible thing and living in a mud house?. How does he heat and cook? I assume he lives purely on a plant and insect diet with the odd bit of fake meat. His home must be heated by blankets made of hemp as solar panels destroy the environment and likewise windmills cannot be disposed of safely, plus they use concrete.

In terms of eating I assume he grows all his own food and ensures his family follow the same strictures that he does. I assume clothing is all at least second hand or produced by his wife spinning locally grown hemp. I assume lighting is provided by tallow made from sustainable sources, probably in future provided by human bodies.

In going to work I assume he walks, or uses a sustainably produced natural bicycle.
I assume he does not use a computer as these use vital resources from the earth and need electricity to power.

When he is ill of course he will only use plants as in medieval times or the odd leech.
travel and holidays abroad must be out of the question as this would be a betrayal of the correct way to live,

Perhaps the Prof and his colleagues at FIRE might like to set out for us exactly how they are living the dream wlong with their families, that they intend to force on to the rest of us. If he cannot then perhaps he should do a year of living by his edicts and then come tell us all about it, thats if he survives that long.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
23 days ago
Reply to  Hester

Exactly what I said above. Anyone proposing such radical changes to everyone else’s way of living should be forced to live as they themselves are proposing, with absolutely no exceptions for anything. As it stands, I think they somehow imagine they will be exceptions to the rule because they are doing such important work, or actually more likely they have so little imagination that they just can’t imagine how awful it would really be.

Depressing though it all is, I really don’t think it will get this far so I’m trying not to worry too much.

Last edited 23 days ago by A. Contrarian
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JXB
JXB
23 days ago

Long before this, the whole Net Zero/Climate change hoax will go the way of CoVid – embarrassed politicians, media and other loonies pretending it never really happened, wasn’t a big deal, relied on the “best” science at the time, mistakes were made, but “we need to move on”.

Note: “hoax” means something deliberate intended to deceive and/or defraud. It doesn’t mean joke or prank as some think.

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Tonka Rigger
Tonka Rigger
23 days ago
Reply to  JXB

Yup, I agree. The arse is falling right out of it and has been for some time.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
23 days ago
Reply to  JXB

Something else will come along instead though, it always does!

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LizT
LizT
22 days ago
Reply to  JXB

Embarrassed politicians? I’ve yet to meet one, they have no shame

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MadWolf303
MadWolf303
23 days ago

Talk about a vote winner……still when we lock them up, they’ll be cheap to feed, just toss in some grass and a bit of bark,…..

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WillP
WillP
23 days ago

When psychopaths meet climate alarmism.

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Ardandearg
Ardandearg
23 days ago

Hands off my lamb, beef, milk and cheese. I hope this is not clearing the decks for chlorinated chicken. Or is it just clearing the fields for more solar abominations?

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soundofreason
soundofreason
22 days ago

I predict this is used as the ‘this is what we ought to do, but we’re pragmatic so we’ll only limit you to one lamb chop one a month instead of a full ban. There, aren’t we the Good Guys?’.

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Grim Ace
Grim Ace
22 days ago

I predict within 10 years that all members of UK FIRES will be on trial, followed by long prison sentences, for treason against the welfare and happiness of the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish peoples
This will follow the Great Civil War which will enable the deportation of all unwanted illegals and misbehaving immigrants.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
22 days ago

Beef is important to Aryans and so is leather. There is no future of humanity without the guidance of the Aryans.

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Spiritof_GFawkes
Spiritof_GFawkes
22 days ago

I did, for a moment, wonder why beef and lamb would be banned but not pork. Then I realised that all the pigs will keep on going because they are in parliament with their noses in the trough!

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DontPanic
DontPanic
22 days ago

Before they waste taxpayers money on these reports the government should address the fact that there is no evidence of increased severe weather events, death from climate related incidents has decreased and sea levels are not rising. Also we have increased crop yields instead of the predicted in every IPCC report crash in yields. In other words climate change predictions are total fantasy

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VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
22 days ago
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But you won’t hear about that on the BBC / ITV etc.

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Myra
Myra
22 days ago

Report from the Netherlands:
Health agency found high levels of PFAS (microplastics) in eggs , especially from chickens kept in backyards, not so much in eggs sold in supermarkets. So this was on the national news with an apology it was just before Easter.
Moving people away from their own food production….

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JXB
JXB
22 days ago
Reply to  Myra

Microplastics – the new horror in the war on plastics.

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Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
22 days ago

This aspect of the NET Zero Agenda is yet another example of government proclaiming a future successful outcome, before any thought, engagement with those of relevant experience, or serious analysis has been done on behalf of the voters, and then continuing with the agenda, in spite of the accumulating evidence that it shouldn’t have started in the first place.

IIRC, when I first encountered UK FIRES, I wondered whether it was ‘putting flesh on the bones’ of the absurd ‘oven ready’ Green policies, so highlighting the futility of it all, and the waste, and destruction. If so, it hasn’t had much effect on those driving the agenda.

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Prickly Thistle
Prickly Thistle
22 days ago

Utterly terrifying what these lunatics have in store for us.

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Covid-1984
Covid-1984
22 days ago

Yes Ed, I’m sure your Halal meat friendly mates will love that on. Dream on. How did 1930’s prohibition pan out??…. crickets…….👂

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Hugh
Hugh
22 days ago

And we pay for these fantasies? This should have been posted on April 1st and I would have chuckled, today I gagged.

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Pembroke
Pembroke
22 days ago

Is not lamb a staple food of our middle eastern ‘invaders’? Will they allow the government they thought was doing everything for them (as it seems to an indigenous native) to ban their principal food source?

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The Real Engineer
The Real Engineer
22 days ago
Reply to  Pembroke

And Goats, again not mentioned. I assume Halal meat is not allowed under the EU regulations? Halal probably prohibits factory junk too, unless it is “passed” by an Imam?

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DontPanic
DontPanic
22 days ago

This guy appears to do very well out of all the grants etc so no wonder he wants to keep the fake climate change narrative going. However comments appear to be turned off on his YouTube videos so he appears unable to deal with criticism of his preposterous climate claims.

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