South Africa’s Ministerial Advisory Committee (MAC) on Covid, a similar body to SAGE, has written to Health Minister Joe Phaahla recommending that all contact tracing and self-isolation of contacts for Covid be stopped because it is unnecessary and ineffective. South Africa is the original epicentre of the Omicron outbreak so this advice should be a strong signal to Boris Johnson and the rest of the world that the panic about Omicron is unwarranted.
The Committee’s experts write:
We propose that quarantining be discontinued with immediate effect for contacts of cases of Covid. This applies equally to vaccinated and non-vaccinated contacts. No testing for Covid is required irrespective of the exposure risk, unless the contact becomes symptomatic. We further propose that contact tracing be stopped.
They explain:
Crucially, it appears that efforts to eliminate and/or contain the virus are not likely to be successful. Therefore, it is critical that the role of containment efforts like quarantine and contact tracing is re-evaluated.
They add:
The inability of the current testing strategy to identify the bulk of cases is illustrated by the high SARS-CoV-2 seropositivity rates seen across multiple provinces in serosurveys, implying that only a fraction of cases (perhaps one in 10, or even less) are ever diagnosed.
It stands to reason that if the vast majority of cases are not diagnosed, then the vast majority of case contacts are also not diagnosed. This means that quarantining and contact tracing are of negligible public health benefit in the South African setting.
The Daily Sceptic has been sent a copy of the memo, which is reproduced in full below.
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Will Johnson take any notice of what they say in South Africa? Hell,no. He’s too busy crawling to SAGE and exercising his inner tyrant. But how to tell him? He’s got his fingers in his ears singing “La, la, la I don’t want to hear you”. We really do need an organised campaign of mass civil disobedience – no masks, no restrictions, no testing, no Project Fear, just common sense.
It’s heartening to know there’s SOME sense in the world. Good for them.
UPDATE regarding attempts by UK regime to coerce administration of experimental medical treatments to NHS and other health care employees.
https://laworfiction.com/2021/12/stand-against-mandatory-vaccination-nhs-and-health-sector/
There are template letters that can and should be used to protect employee rights. They include references to employer assumption of liability for the consequences of actions deemed necessary by the employer.
Pass on to anyone you know who might find them relevant.
EDIT: They could also be a shot across the bow to any other corporation/entity requireing mandatory vaccination. Companies could be setting themselves up for a lot of grief if employess do not give their rights away through ignorance. It is too late for some who went along out of social concern.
I wonder if “our” SAGE could do a (permanent?) job swap experience with the SA one?
I’d be happy to give a couple of quid towards the airfares, and make an apology to the SA citizens for them getting the shitty end of the stick.
Dr. Phaahla looks like Sajid Javid if his head had been squashed in a vice. Sorry I’ll get my coat.
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We should kick out all the incompetent advisors and modelers in our SAGE committee and offer jobs to these South Africans who seem to know what they are talking about whereas ours don’t. Just think about all the billions wasted on our utterly rubbish track and trace system that never worked and from this information, would have been ineffective even if it did. Wages and taxes lost, company liquidations caused and a massive negative impact on our countries finances resulted from this stupidity by our government. All to be paid by our taxes and causing our country to be in debt for years to come.
At the outset the developers of the PCR testing said its purpose was only to identify if symptoms were caused by Covid and for use in laboratories, not for mass testing in car parks, which our government has ramped up to stupidly high levels just so they can announce the levels of infections (mostly asymtomatic) to continue their fear tactics. The suppliers of these tests have been making profits at our expense they could only dream of and we are announcing to the world levels of infections making our country a pariah. The Tories… Read more »
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Maybe because South African leaders have opposed the scam from the very beginning? Pappaya tests positive for covid?
It’s case of deja vu all over again.
Feb 2 2021 Hunt is On For the South African Variant
The UK Governnent will not abandon contact tracing even in the face of overwhelming evidence that it is pointless along with lockdowns and vacinating children and healthy adults. The R number rules. There are now too many vested interests – the winners that is – who love this new fantasy world that has been created – and never want a return to the bad old days where people were expected to work for a living. As for “the science”, ( essentially a collection of self-serving careerists in receipt of public funds) , a global health emergency is just another convenient way to promote the deluded belief that the planet is on the brink of an environmental and now a health catastrophe as well..There is a lot of money to be had by claiming (on the basis of scant evidence) that the end of the world is nigh. That is the real reason why another lockdown is just around the corner.
SAGE would probably react by demanding EVERYONE be tested every day!
So South Africa is ending a policy of enforced separation, unlike the UK. South Africans have a word for that policy ‘Apartheid’.
AT LAST!!!!!!
Someone with some commonsense.
They are failing to comply with International Groupthink. That risks being treated as pariahs. There will be huge pressure to step back into line.
Looks like there’ll be some sackings and maybe assassinations in South Africa then?
MSM is trying to make fun of people wanting to protect themselves with cheap and proven drugs. Ivermectin has been FDA approved for human use since 1996. It also beats Pfizer’s new wonder drug hands down, and costs next to nothing. Ivermectin doesn’t make tons of money. So they know the Covid shot is on its final gasp, so they take it add something different to it, rebrand under another name and charge 20 times what they would for ivermectin. I cannot wrap my head around this nonsense. When I explain this to my relatives they label me as crazy and ask me if I know better than science. I don’t make up these information out of my ass. All this information is true and proven. For some people it is near impossible for them to wake up. They are comfortable in their clown world life. If you want to get Ivermectin you can visit https://ivmpharmacy.com
Totally bloody brainwashed the public. I’m at the point where I have lost all sympathy for the “believers”. Take them, cull them, they really are useless eaters. Pity their children though.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/
I think it is South African politicians’ way of saying “we need more bribes”.
Been saying the same for a few weeks. What is the purpose of trying to micro-manage an endemic virus..?
BLIAR WANTS PREP FOR FORTH JAB.. just to stay ahead of the curve that is!
You’ve got to admit.. Teflon Tone.. does bring a certain ‘down home and folksy’ feel to getting injected with toxins..
https://www.gbnews.uk/news/tony-blair-preparation-for-fourth-covid-jabs-needed-to-stay-ahead-of-curve/187589
Please God.
Just 5 minutes alone with him is all I ask.
Iraq “war.”
And now this.
You utter bastard.
That said I think I would be in a rather long queue.
May you rot in Hell forever.
Rest assured he’ll get what he deserves on this earth (all being well) as well as the next.
Phew. That made me feel a bit better.
There only needs to be one person in that queue. I hope his “nemesis” – Dr David Kelly – exacts sweet revenge on this truly evil person.
He’s nearly 70 he’s gotta die or get dementia soon surely, it’s at times like these i’m even tempted to become a believer & pray .
I just wish I could give all his gang 4 doses from random selections.
Results from the British Health Alliance poll on ‘Do you support the introduction of vaccine passports’?
56,458 votes
25.6% said Yes
74.4% said No
Some choice comments!
https://britishhealthalliance.com/poll-do-you-support-the-introduction-of-vaccine-passports/
GB news did one 78% said NO
That’s very encouraging too: It’s a disgrace and affront to democracy (not that TPTB care) that the Government forced them through. It will be a salami slicing approach, first big venues, then medium venues, then pubs then shops. Same as in more and more European countries and then transformed into the CCP social credit score app. You don’t need a crystal ball to see that.
I’ve seen several polls now, and they seem pretty much the same, average at 25%/75% for/against.
Unless it’s a carefully organised poll it won’t be representative and I wouldn’t trust the usual pollsters so only the government really knows and they won’t be telling the truth.
Nice but are their audience representative?
Sage old advice, pre-covid, WHO recommendation, track & trace is a waste of f*****g time!
Somehow I suspect it is far to profitable for Tory cronies to stop now, come to that matter I’m certain PCR testing will become the new NHS standard of the future for the same reason.
Off topic, but does anybody know how the “booster” programme is going now? It’s just that I drove through a near by village who have been a bit fanatical over the past 2 years (still have antisocial distancing posters up, everybody muzzled for shops etc). They are running the booster programme from the village hall, which a few days ago there was a queue waiting to get stabbed. Now the car parking attendant looks bored.
How is it nationally, have all the fanatics been jabbed and it’s now petering out?
According to OurWorldInData, 75% of the UK population has had at least one vaccination, 69% has had two, and 44.5% has had two vaccinations and a booster.
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Hence the globalists coercion on the governments
All here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
Yes I “think” that is the case
Breaking news according to the Daily Express
Christmas lockdown fears: Boris to make big announcement on new rules ‘in next 48 hours’BORIS JOHNSON will announce whether he plans to impose a new raft of “circuit-breaker” restrictions” within the next 48 hours it has been claimed.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1539383/christmas-lockdown-uk-covid-latest-updates-omicron-step-2-boris-johnson-announcement
I guess he’s had the phone call now from Bill Gates and Mr Gates has more authority than the Chancellor, the Foreign Secretary and the Leader of the House, what with him being an unelected foreign billionaire.
Almost certainly!
And the fact that Sunak has just announced £1bn in grants those industries affected by Christmas cancellations doesn’t give me confidence that more restrictions are not coming. £1bn is a high price to pay for Witless opening his big doomsayer gob. He should be gagged now and permanently.
£1 billion a high price? The UK regime has just thrown nearly $2 billion at the corrupt Ukraine government (aka Oligarchs ‘R Us) that will never be repaid. It has bought >100 million doses of some useless vaccine at £10, £30, £100? a go. Then there is Trick or Treat, the bottomless pit of consultancy fees, the PPE scam and on and on. Covid has been turned into an epic business cam.
Since 2020, the UK public debt has risen faster (pro rata) than it did during WWII. It took 40+ years to pay back WWII debts through times of prosperity. The current debts will never be paid outside a fire sale of everything that is’isn’t nailed down.
We the taxpayer also funded GAVI – don’t recall that appearing in any manifesto…?
Maybe George Soros
This could be it, if so it’s a welcome respite, but wait for the inevitable sting in the tail after Christmas!
BBC News: Covid: Boris Johnson says there will be no new Covid rules before Christmas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59747966
Sunak’s billion loan answers all questions otherwise there would be no need for it.. they’re going for lockdown..
£1B is small change is this. Not enough to make a difference especially if the max payout is £6K. I bet the £1B doesn’t even all get paid out.
Prediction: The red tape will be too much for small business, so the money will end up in the hands of big business as desired.
Greenist Carrieservatism will put the lights out.
Ignore lockdown, keep working, keep the lights on.
And who pray tell is going to police this?
Covid: Workers to be fined for not working from home – BBC News
What exactly does ‘good reason’ mean?
The neighbours
How wonderful it must feel to have a Health Minister who thinks and behaves rationally!
And, what’s more, a Health Minister who puts the health and welfare of his people above big Pharma profits!
Yes.. but he’s going to have to be very careful he doesn’t suddenly throw himself off of a high building.. these things happen you know..
He’ll be dead soon.
There’s another implication: When the vast majority of infections is never detected, the disease must be harmless. Otherwise, people would get seriously ill which would be noticed.
Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom of London and Westminster plus some associated bits of much less important countryside: We can’t wait for hospitalisations to rise – England needs a circuit breaker now! demands Christina Pagel, director of the Statistic-based Bullshitting Applied to Health Care unit at University College London. Because, even for the most harmless disease, treating sick people costs money and that’s dreadful or catastrophic.
In contrast to this, mistreating healthy people doesn’t cost the NHS anything.
Should be an easy choice then.
Also, treating people will mean that our poor doctors and nurses might have to, horror of horrors, break off from making tic toc videos and demanding another massive pay rise.
I’d be careful blaming this on actual NHS frontline staff. Most of this will be decent, (reasonably) hardworking people doing an often very unpleasant job which has to be done. IMHO, the rotten part sits two or three layers atop of these, presumably the more rotten the closer it gets to the top.
In my humble experience there’s plenty of shite on the frontline too.
With people, there alway is. But that’s still a difference to the institutional shite which exists at the level where people are making (or would like to make) general health policy decisions.
You can also tell the “rotten” cadre of people – they’re the ones who don’t/ ever pull on gowns or inhabit operating theatres without a clipboard in hand.
The dreaded checkbox syndrome.
Whitty publicly stated the disease was harmless to the great majority back in May 2020. I wonder if he either i) ‘mis-spoke’ against the deemed narrative or ii) was ‘encouraged’ to recant and go along with the imposition of fascism.
He also faces just as serious a “charge” by appearing on the NHS “Booster ads” and stating that ( not verbatim) …”Getting a booster/vaccinated is the best possible protection against the virus/variant” – he then goes on to state that everyone should get a “booster”.
So without seeing the patient , he gives medical advice; he does not ensure “informed consent” is made available and he provides no cited references to back up his statement. As a NHS Consultant Physician he surely cannot be allowed to get away with that – he would have the greatest difficulty in proving that statement in any court – the witnesses for the prosecution would shred him.
So how do you complain about his abandonment of the “do no harm” code of conduct he abides by – or doesn’t?
This has more than likely already been shared on these forums (it’s nearly a day old now), but I’ve only just got round to watching it. So for those who haven’t seen it yet, Paul Joseph Watson annihilates the narrative in under 8 minutes. This is him at his best:
https://youtu.be/hYzXjFsIcGw
Brilliant!
Overheard while having a coffee in MoD Main Building:
“They’re protesting against LAWs (Lethal Autonomous Weapons – ‘killer robots’) again….”
“Ah… do you think it would make any difference if we said they would only be used against the unvaccinated?”
Today’s vaccinated is tomorrow’s unvaccinated.
The Ministerial Advisory Committee didn’t kill themselves.
Too soon?
Two stabs in the back of the head, with the syringes locked away in the glove compartment of their car – Covidicide.
Maybe they see what’s coming down the line.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/crimes-against-humanity-lawsuit-processo-de-crimes-contra-a-humanidade_DC4jAKVydkNAr3a.html
I mentioned in a previous comment that the globalists behind the SARS‑CoV‑2 genocidal fraud are murderous thugs that will stop at nothing in order to install their one-world governance.
People need to be getting ready mentally and physically for where this is going. All pointers so far tell us we are at that place with the totalitarians that the Russians were at in circa 1910.
In any given society about 33% of the population will unquestionably follow and obey an authoritarian government’s dictates. About another 33% will question these dictates and disagree with them, but, nonetheless, these people will ultimately obey them.
The last (about) 33% will see the authoritarian government and its dictates for what they are, and refuse to follow or obey.
A host of research and surveys done by psychologists all point to these figures being fairly correct.
Then you take a society like the UK and you add a couple of foreign demographics with their own unique cultures. And then sow discord between them and the native population.
Think in the UK how you can watch TV in a town which is 98% White naïve British, but yet 99% of… Read more »
Meanwhile in Scotland… essentially lockdown
Really? Don’t know, don’t care, won’t know, won’t care.
Once upon a time in the past, I considered moving to Scotland as England isn’t always the nicest place for foreigners. But thankfully, Nicola Sturgeon made it clear that Scotland is always the worst place for anyone before it could get to that.
Same here. I will not go anywhere near the place now. Sturgeon is turning it into a communist failed state.
I’m an expat Scot with family there but I won’t be going back until there is a change of regime. Sad, but I don’t want to contribute any money to the Scottish economy any more.
How have we come to a state that you are driven to that conclusion – dreadful; apartheid in all but name.
But then, that is what Marxist/Leninist imperialists want, is it not?
A reset that is anything but “Great”.
Its weird, she wants to remain in the EU with its open borders, but can’t get that so turning it into a marxist state where no one can go anywhere, ie an extremist
At present, the only borders the people who think the EU is a great institution still want to keep open are those accross supposedly illegal immigration is happening or could be happening.
We considered the exact same thing, but because we are English, we put that idea into the bin marked “rubbish”, because of the “Thoughts of Chairman Sturgeon” poisoning of the polyglot melting plot psyche.
Sorry, doing too many things at once – melting pot…but then again melting plot might cut it too…