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Independent Sage Accuses JCVI of Being “Anti-Vax”!

by Toby Young
1 November 2021 5:02 PM

The Zero Covid absolutists at Independent SAGE have, in typical style, denounced the medical and scientific experts on the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation of proposing to use children as “human shields” because it wouldn’t rubber stamp the Government’s decision to vaccinate healthy 12-15 year-olds. Surely, it is the Government that wants to use younger teenagers as “human shields” by insisting on extending the vaccine roll out to them even though the health risks clearly outweigh the health benefits? MailOnline has more.

Members of Independent Sage, a vocal group of experts who have clung on to the idea of eliminating Covid, accused the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation of using youngsters as “human shields” to protect adults.

Newly-published minutes from JCVI meetings show that the group first looked at whether letting 12 to 15-year-olds get Covid naturally was better than vaccinating them in spring, months before the rollout was expanded to teens.

Echoing the view of many independent experts, the JCVI accepted allowing the virus to circulate naturally could give youngsters strong immunity and also protect adults — without the risk of side effects from vaccines.

The panel emphasised Covid posed such a tiny threat to children and raised concerns about a heart inflammation condition associated with the jabs in young people.

“Children rarely develop severe disease or die of Covid; even children with underlying comorbidities have a very low risk,’ the JCVI said in its 32nd meeting on May 13.

“There are limited data on Covid vaccine use in children; there is a need to consider the mild transient illness of Covid versus potential rare adverse events associated with vaccination.

“There is an argument for allowing the virus to circulate amongst children which could provide broader immunity to the children and boost immunity in adults.”

The group also considered that children might be better off catching Covid at a young age, when they are at low risk, so that they are less vulnerable in adulthood, as is the case with chicken pox and other viral infections.

Dr Kit Yates, a mathematical biologist at the University of Bath and Independent Sage member, quoted excerpts from a number of JCVI minutes in a lengthy Twitter thread, writing: ‘Anti-vax or JCVI?’

His colleague Professor Alice Roberts, a public health expert at the University of Birmingham, said the views expressed at the meetings were “just appalling”. Other Independent Sage members described them as “upsetting”.

Worth reading in full.

If members of the JCVI can be accused of being “anti-vaxxers”, the phrase has clearly lost any connection with its original meaning and now means “anyone who raises the slightest concern about the Covid vaccines, regardless of their medical or scientific expertise”.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

I don’t think its original meaning was respectable either – it was always essentially abusive. My letter to BMJ 27 August 2020:

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3099/rr-5

Regarding the Use of the Term “Anti-Vaxxer”
Dear Editor
Thank you Karyse Day [1] for drawing attention to the problem of the bias and intimidation inherent in the term “anti-vaxxer”. The term has been around perhaps since the 19th century but has evolved a new context. Three years ago I drew attention to the remarks of Seth Berkley, director of the vaccine lobby organisation GAVI, in the Spectator proposing that “anti-vaxxers” be excluded from social media, which meant in effect not only that certain people should not be allowed on social media but that criticism of vaccines should not be allowed on a generic basis – an extremely serious matter[2].
Unfortunately, this has also been a hobby-horse of the present Prime Minister. In August last year Reuter’s recorded Boris Johnson as saying [3]:
“I’m afraid people have just been listening to that superstitious mumbo-jumbo on the internet, all that anti-vax stuff…”
On 24 September 2020 he told the UN [4]:
“There are today people who are still actually anti-science, a whole movement called ‘the anti-vaxxers’ who refuse to acknowledge the evidence that vaccinations have eradicated smallpox and who by their prejudices are actually endangering the very children they want to protect.”
By February this year the Sunday Telegraph was reporting [5]:
“Posting anti-vaccine propaganda on social media could become criminal offence, Law Commissioner says
New Law Commissioner Penney Lewis is leading wide-ranging review into whether UK’s offence and abuse laws are fit for the Social Media age…”
And once again the Prime Minister was quoted last month [6]:
“There’s all these anti-vaxxers now,” Johnson told medical workers at a doctor’s surgery in London. “They are nuts, they are nuts.”
While there are a lot of very fed up people I am extremely dubious there is a movement called “the anti-vaxxers” or that they are posting propaganda: at the very best this is a simplistic claim [7,8]. At a time when the government is supposedly trying to earn trust for a range of potential SAR-CoV-2 vaccines the continued disparagement and repression of people who raise questions about a class of products – which after all cannot be inherently safe – speaks for itself. It creates an atmosphere of prejudice and intimidation – such as described in the Cumberlege review [9] and should be seen and understood for what it is.
[1] Karyse Day, ‘Re: Cumberlege review exposes stubborn and dangerous flaws in healthcare’, 25 August 2020, https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3099/rr-3
[2] John Stone, ‘ The Shadow War on Disease: Arbitrary, Oppressive and Unaccountable Medicine’, 9 July 2017, https://www.bmj.com/content/357/bmj.j2449/rr-13
[3] ‘UK’s Johnson slams ‘mumbo-jumbo’ about vaccines after measles rates rise’, Reuter’s 19 August 2020, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-health/uks-johnson-slams-mumb…
[4] United Kingdom – Prime Minister Addresses General Debate, 74th Session (UN 24 September 2019) @ 8.30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf4YEyh7erE&app=desktop
[5] Mike Wright, ‘Posting anti-vaccine propaganda on social media could become criminal offence, Law Commissioner says’, 1 February 2020,  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/01/posting-anti-vaccine-propaga…
[6] ‘Johnson says anti-vaxxers ‘are nuts”, Reuter’s 24 July 2020, https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-vaccinatio-…
[7] John Stone, ‘An appeal to authority is not the same as an appeal to knowledge’, 15 May 2019, https://www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l2144/rr-0
[8] John Stone, ‘Brave new World’, 17 May 2019, https://www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l2144/rr-5
[9] Helen Haskell, ‘Cumberlege review exposes stubborn and dangerous flaws in healthcare’
BMJ 2020; 370 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m3099 (Published 06 August 2020)

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Professor Gherardi and Authier did some excellent research between 1998 and 2018 which revealed a mechanism for the toxicity of the alum adjuvant in vaccines.
Their research has been shut down, as has Professor Exleys research on the neurotoxicity of aluminium. Any scientist risks his career to venture into this forbidden territory.
Perhaps we need another label. Antiscience? antihuman? to describe what is really going on..

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

This is just authoritarian institutional bullying designed to shut down any real tolerant scientific discourse. If you think it was any more respectable with Wakefield I do not believe it was.

https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/03/why-we-cannot-believe-brian-deer-about-andrew-wakefield.html

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Wakefield ….they were clearly warming up to this.
Autism and other vaccine induced injury….if you plan a population wide rollout of a vaccine pass/social credit system…you cannot allow free investigation into these medical issues.
I wonder for how long this has been planned?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

And why it was so incredibly important to them to discredit A) Wakefield and B) the results his research revealed

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

With Wakefield we go back to the 1998 debacle – of course, he broke the medical taboo already very strong in this country of criticising vaccines in any respect, but in those days you could pick and choose your products. Wakefield recognised that actually parents were able in that epoch under the NHS to choose which components separately over time, but of course this was against government/industry plans to expand the schedule indefinitely. If people continued to pick and choose, as in fact they did a lot, it would sabotage business. In fact in the years since the cost of vaccinating a single child according to the schedule has gone up more than a hundred times.

https://www.bmj.com/content/367/bmj.l5995/rr-2

I think eugenicist autocrats have been revising their plans for more than a century (Rockefeller and IBM were up to their ears in Nazi atrocities)

https://www.ageofautism.com/2021/11/id-2020-re-visited.html

The blueprint for Covid was published by the Rockefeller institute in 2010 following the 2009 swine flu fiasco. Next time they would not fail. This document is beyond belief

https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

I never believed that the MMR caused autism. But so many parents reported children who were later diagnosed having very bad reactions to the jabs that it seemed to me probable that they triggered some crisis short of causation. But there were no shades of grey allowed in that debate.
Pleased to see Wakefield has ended up with a supermodel and is presumably rich and happy.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

It’s a complex picture: any vaccine can cause encephalopathy and consequent brain impairment

https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/12/the-echo-chambers-of-public-health.html

Last year I asked famous vaccine researcher Christine Benn whether she had any data for neurological impairment for her decades of study in Guinea Bissau and got a frank admission that she’d never looked at it (and she may be now)

https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/07/no-data-for-neurological-impairment.html

There is no question of the real gut issues of the patients that Wakefield was looking at and his co-author Prof Walker-Smith, who was the leading pioneer in paediatric gastro-enterology of the period was completely exonerated. Many autistic people have gut issues too,

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

One day a thirteen month-old girl is happily crawling at great speed across the carpet and taking baby steps holding on to the furniture, the next morning she is paralysed, unable even to lift her head up. What happened in between was the MMR. My niece was seven before she could walk, and that was after years of intense physiotherapy and NHS-provided stiff leather calipers. She is autistic,of course.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

The Rockefeller doc is pure Ubermesnch BS.

“We are at a moment in history that is full of opportunity. Technology is poised to transform the lives of millions of people throughout the world, especially those who have had little or no access to the tools that can deliver sustainable improvements for their families and communities.”

Note they talk of ‘millions’ not ‘billions’ – ie them and their willing servants.

Not to mention western proxy forces such as ISIS being unleashed on resource-rich countries to destabilise them and make them easier prey for globalist corporations. Western goodies such as mobile phones and electric vehicles are reliant cheap extraction of rare earths and minerals using slave and child labour in such countries. I’m sure BLM will be right on this … any time now …. just hold on a bit longer.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Andrew Wakefield was a brave man when he took on the medical establishment in the UK. A result of which they demonised him and ruined his career. He’s never backed down though, and has been proved right over the fullness of time. Not that its ever been broadcast on the MSM..

Here’s a chart showing the growth of Autism since 1970 in the USA. Its staggeringly frightening, and the link with the children.. ???

AUTISM RISE SINCE 1970.png
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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Aluminium has no place in human physiology, we don’t need it even in trace amounts and it is a known neurotoxin. Yet somehow we are supposed to believe it causes no harm.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

They need it as an “adjuvant” – to make the desired immune response last longer. But they haven’t got a bloody clue as to precisely how and why adjuvants work- not to mention their long term effects – permeation of the gut, blood brain barrier etc..

Not for nothing are adjuvants known as immunologists dirty little secret

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Aluminium compounds are used as flocculants to clear water supplies of suspended small particles. So, blood is also a complex fluid suspension, so has anyone ever bothered thinking what happens in the blood after injection of aluminium? Micro clots?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

If they haven’t been paid to think about it then no, I almost guarantee no one with the money wants to find out.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

You would rightfully expect ANY substance that goes into a vaccine to have been fully researched for any potential toxicity, wouldn’t you?

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

The likes of iSage and the extremists working for pharma interests have done more harm to vaccination programs and public health trust, than any anti vaxxers could ever have.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I know a very few people who wear “anti-vaxxer” as a title, but we cannot have real science if you gaslight people. If there is an ideology it belongs to those people who believe a product is safe and effective by virtue of belonging to the class of things called “vaccines”, a belief which is certainly unscientific and unsafe. While others might take the view that if there is a taboo on talking about something there is a problem. Even Toby gets tight lipped when confronting this.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

“Even Toby gets tight lipped when confronting this”

He won’t confront it though, like so many he stays well clear of the fray..

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

I had high hopes when Independent SAGE first appeared, little knowing that they would be lockdown/vaccine Ultras.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes I had high hopes: Sir David King had at least opposed the Avian Flu hoax being promoted in the noughties – as Chief Government Scientist he was anything but shoulder with Sir Liam Donaldson, Chief Medical Officer. But his approval rating went down with me when he started to argue that all school children should be drugged to improve their concentration. Obviously they are attempting to bring the population to its knees

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

He was a nightmare during the Foot and Mouth debacle, into which there was never a public inquiry, despite one being promised.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

I guess iSage is one of those self-appointed watch-dog organisations (like Hacked-Off with Leveson) pretending to be there for the public. We are still living with this idiot fantasy of Zero Covid, and vaccines as the magical solution, which means the world can never get back to normal. They should be investigated for conflicts.

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Superunknown
Superunknown
3 years ago

“Following the science”

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

My mind would boggle at this if it hadn’t got beyond boggling at the antics in the monkey cage.

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

By Wayne Allyn Root

Hello Mr. Root,

I am a media reporter with The New York Times. My colleague and I are working on a story about false or misleading vaccine misinformation in the audio space…You have said on Facebook that the vaccine “doesn’t work” and is “a complete failure.” Do you have any comment?

I wanted to share my response to the New York Times…

Sure, I have a comment. Every word I say is based on science and facts.

The VAERS reporting system is the only present scientific way of measuring deaths and injuries from any vaccine – including the Covid-19 vaccine. It’s not my system. It’s not based on politics. It has nothing to do with conservative or liberal opinions.
 
It is a science-based medical reporting system provided by the government and the CDC.

It is the only way of keeping track of the deaths, crippling injuries and adverse reactions from any vaccine. It has been used for many decades.

No one in the medical community, or media has EVER in history ignored, or disparaged the VAERS Report before. Until now.

Here are the VAERS numbers: Over 17,000 Americans are reported dead directly from this vaccine – mostly from strokes, heart attacks and blood clots. Over 800,000 are reported injured, many of them hospitalized (over 83,000); many with life-threatening illness (over 18,000); many others permanently disabled (over 26,000).

This information is all publicly available and provided by the CDC. This cannot be called “misleading” by anyone in the media. The very definition of “misleading” would be to either disparage VAERS, or ignore it, and not report it daily to your readers.

The amount of deaths and significant injuries reported at VAERS is now dramatically higher than all vaccines in the past 30+ years combined. This has happened in only ten months.

That’s a fact. Facts cannot be “misleading.”

Several times in America’s recent history, the medical community has suspended or cancelled a vaccine program over a small number of deaths. The first rule of medicine is “physician do no harm.” At any sign of harm, a vaccine should and must be questioned, and/or suspended.

Never before have we even imagined a vaccine with over 17,000 deaths and over 800,000 adverse reactions.

Yet, the official VAERS numbers have been blacked out from the mainstream media and social media – including your New York Times. Anytime something is not discussed, or debated, or disparaged as “misleading” because it is different than the official government narrative, I’d call that the very definition of “intolerance” at best, and tyranny at worst.

Even more facts and SCIENCE…

Studies are in from many countries, but in particular UK and Israel, report the vaccine…

A) Is in fact failing miserably- a huge majority of recent cases, hospitalizations and deaths are double vaxxed. FACT.

B) Cases are slightly higher in countries with higher vaccination rates, and slightly lower in countries with lower vaccination rates.

These are factual, credible, scientific studies from multiple countries.

So yes, I question this vaccine, and yes, I am seriously worried about the proven deaths and injuries directly from this vaccine in the short term (as seen on the VAERS reporting system), and I’m especially worried about the long-term effects of this vaccine.

If the NY Times believe anything I’ve said is “misleading,” then you clearly don’t understand the definition of SCIENCE. I’m quoting only government, CDC and scientific studies from multiple countries.
 
More importantly, the very definition of “science” is asking questions and debate.

To not ask questions, especially in the face of so many Americans sick with Covid who are double vaxxed, and so many dead or injured directly from the vaccine as reported by VAERS, would make someone either naive, gullible, blind, deaf or very dumb.

I’m proud that my time at Columbia University taught me to think critically, ask questions, never accept as fact what any government agency, or any authority figure says, and always be a fearless debater.

By the way, I urge the New York Times to set up a debate on this topic. I’ll be thrilled to debate any “expert” about this particular Covid-19 vaccine and the facts reported by VAERS and studies around the world. Let’s do it.

WAR
Wayne Allyn Root

P.S. After I sent this response, it was reported 77.7% of Covid deaths in Illinois last week were vaccinated. It was also reported Ireland has a massive Covid outbreak, despite the country being 91% vaccinated. And an exhaustive year-long study in the UK was released proving vaccinated people are just as likely to spread Covid as the unvaccinated.

The debate is over. The vaccine is a failure. The vaccine mandates must end now.
 

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Great response!

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Absolutely excellent.
(PS When I up-ticked it clocked up a well earned 10).

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Very well said. Did they come back? Start a debate? No? Theres the answer then. How to make the general population aware what is being done to them is the biggest problem we face. In the words of the Van Morrison song “They own the Media”. We’re screwed.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

More nudge. This is all about painting the JCVI as outliers to ramp up the pressure on them for when they are soon to be asked to approve jabs for ages 5+

Nobody should be under any illusion that this isn’t all being stage managed.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Damn right it is..

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Could be worse

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TC
TC
3 years ago

Independent SAGE…..always been madder than a box of frogs.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
So who on ‘Independent Sage’ might have leaned on Twitty and Unbalanced to get our children jabbed?
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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

And who is backing iSage and giving them airtime? Often presenting them as experts in a field they’re unqualified to comment on.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

If you check out their website you will find that their funding seems to come from ‘Citizens’ which receive funding from the Ford Foundation.

https://www.independentsage.org/independent-sage/

No surprise to find that along with David ‘Deisel’ King, Susan ‘masks forever’ Michie is one of the main protagonists’

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Surely if very old people need to die to relieve pressure on the NHS and reduce climate change through population reduction, Sir David could step forward and top himself to give a lead?
I seem to recall him urging old people to die quietly at home in spring last year.

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kate
kate
3 years ago

It is clear that those in power do not envisage us ever returning to a “democratic” system of distributed and balanced powers.
They have destroyed any illusion of scientific independence, no-one can trust the state vaccine programme ever again, parliament is a total sham, the judiciary is clearly bought or terrified, free speech no longer exists ….where can we go from here?

The only route will be dictatorship….for ever….otherwise those who have committed these crimes will be at risk.

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Yep : “a boot tramping on a human face – forever”!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

If, at the end of the COP conf, the world leaders announced some decision involving the transference of sovereignty to the UN to create a ‘one world government’ to tackle the climate crisis etc – creating conditions where the elite prosper and the rest of us are turned into serfs [ably facilitated by the worldwide pandemic restrictions and unified determination they all seem to have to ‘build back better’] I wouldn’t be at all surprised – possibly too soon?? Who knows, but that is where it seems to be headed.

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KidFury
KidFury
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

As long as we have a good quality of lif, I honestly don’t care how the world is governed

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

That was how many felt when Pol Pot got going.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

None of the terms used by anyone on Team Zero Mankind (All we care for is COVID!) mean anything. They’re just labels to stick to the enemy in the usual (for wokesters) guilt-by-association scheme. These are really all just names which need to be put on some list of people with zero intellectual or any other kind of integrity who’ll literally stop at nothing if it furthers their political goals.

I used to consider myself politically disinterested but generally left-leaning not that long ago. These people have thoroughly cured me from that. They may not really be shape-shifting repitilians but they’re exactly as human as if they were.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Himmler vs. Goering.

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Superunknown
Superunknown
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Promoted by Goebbels and directed by Mengele.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

I’m anti-vaccine. I favour the human immune system over artificially induced immunity. I think vaccines should be used sparingly and only when the risk of death is incredibly high, such as rabies or tetanus.

I’m also generally anti most drugs. I think they should be used sparingly and only when there is really no other option.

To my mind, both those are perfectly rational positions and I’m quite happy to state my position and defend it.

Basically, I don’t take being labelled as anti-vax is any sort of insult. Quite on the contrary.

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Anti-drug?

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Spot on.
I’ve been “anti vax” since being an unwilling recipient of the Polio jab donkey’s years ago!
My career has only served to confirm how right I was at that time, albeit aged 5 or 6.

One of my worst nightmares now looms, effectively compulsory jabs/ gene therapy for kids, at the behest of these fuckers. My apologies for the language but needs must.

If only I could meet them in a dark alley…..

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

Cultists will invariably portray their ‘opponents’ (real and imagined (the latter applying in this instance)), as participating in the very act(s) in which they are participating. It’s truly fascinating. This phenomenon is so widespread in contemporary discourse that future (even current) academics will have a field day with this anti-intellectual, anti-rational bullshit.

I mean, it’s not even sort of clever. It’s transparent projection.

Given that, statistically speaking, this disease poses no risk to children, and thus the risk from inaction with regard to children is zero, and any risk from intervention is utterly unacceptable, then, of course, the ones using children as ‘human shields’ are the vaccinators, and their ‘anti-vax’ label is an epithet, a mere prop to disguise their own anti-scientific rhetoric/stance.

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Uncle Monty
Uncle Monty
3 years ago

Anti mandatory vaccines, anti vaccine passports.
Both smack of totalitarianism.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago

As far as I am concerned we have reached the point – possibly quite some time ago – where the term now means “a person with sufficient common sense to make a sensible choice for their own body”

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TruthHurts2077
TruthHurts2077
3 years ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/40Ho2GR6t86Z/

BitChute – MAG BITTER TRUTH – 💥BAM!💥

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

I am now a Nazi and anti-vaxxer.
Needless to say that I am ‘fully vaccinated’ with real vaccines against diseases it makes sense for, just not in favour of the experimental gene therapy, any coercion, any discrimination and the vaxx passport in conjunction with it.
And kind of a strange Nazi, one being for freedom of speech, scientific discussion and dissent and the supremacy if inalienable individual rights (in particular bodily autonomy).
I probably wouldn’have lasted long in 30s Germany, in contrast to those who now call me one, but so be it.
Both terms are now a badge of honour coming from these people, and their inflated use is an indication that those labels aren’t even being bought by the public any more, only by the most zealous Covidians in the chattering class.

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KidFury
KidFury
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Don’t forget you’re probably a racist transphobe too

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
3 years ago

It is not a cult.
It is not a cult.
It is not a cult.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1455250990580453377

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Margaret
Margaret
3 years ago

https://www.skysports.com/share/12457436

Doesn’t look like it was a panic attack then?

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Margaret
Margaret
3 years ago

Has Joel Smalley been suspended from Twitter?

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hellsbells
hellsbells
3 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Looks like it, his account was working earlier this evening 🙁

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robnicholson
robnicholson
3 years ago

Very powerful cartoon by Bob Moran:
comment image?format=750w

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James Kreis
James Kreis
3 years ago

If an anti-vaxxer is defined as a person who trusts their own immune system rather than pharmaceutical companies, career politicians and the corporate media, then I have to put my hand up

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

Entries in TGA DAEN Australia Database :-
11th Oct – 17th Oct, 2021 for #Pfizervaccine

Myocarditis:-
– 12 yrs old
– 13 yrs old
– 14 yrs old
– 15 yrs old
– 16 yrs old

Pericarditis:-
– 13 yrs old
– 16 yrs old

This is NOT normal!!

https://twitter.com/real_GGoswami/status/1454946873874128904

peri.jpg
Last edited 3 years ago by thinkcriticall
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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago

Independent Sage really are a bunch of Death-Eaters, aren’t they. Very sorry to see Carol Cadwalladr signed up to them.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
3 years ago

Whenever something new comes out regarding Covid you can pretty much predict how iSage will react. They’re just so obvious.

Imagine being “upset” about finding out people tasked with discussing the pros and cons of certain scenarios actually discussed the pros and cons.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

Independent Sage should be looked into for any connections to the Chinese Communist Party.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

“If members of the JCVI can be accused of being “anti-vaxxers”, the phrase has clearly lost any connection with its original meaning and now means “anyone who raises the slightest concern about the Covid vaccines, regardless of their medical or scientific expertise”.”

Yes, quite. What we witness here is the intrusion into medical science by totalitarian power politics, and an elite with a revolting subversive agenda who will go to any lengths to avoid paying for the crimes against humanity they have meted out over the last 18 months.

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sobers
sobers
3 years ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59108939

I wonder what could possibly cause a super fit 33 year old professional footballer to suddenly develop chest pains and cardiological issues that are serious enough to need immediately hospitalisation and at least 3 months rest and recuperation? Asking for a friend…………..

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Manjushri
Manjushri
3 years ago

Photo at top of article looks like a kid is going to inject another kid 🙂

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Iain McCausland
Iain McCausland
3 years ago

Is there a money trail leading to these ‘independent’ SAGE people I wonder?

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

That was always the reason for creation of the term. Same as using the word ‘denier’ which is now the most obvious see through propaganda word ever.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago

Is that Alice Roberts, the BBC celebrity health official?

Indoctrinated.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

“Members of Independent Sage, a vocal group of experts”! Can we PLEASE stop calling them ‘experts’, they are political activists pushing their own agenda.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  SimCS

‘Ex’ – a has been
‘Spurt’ – a drip under pressure

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago

Why do we have so many actual commies advising government?

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concrete68
concrete68
3 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

To balance out the thieving money grabbing capitalist bastards that suck all the cash from the public sector.

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ebygum
ebygum
3 years ago

These are the same health fascists who published this paper in the Lancet in July, when they called for increased lockdown. No re-opening until we had had total vaccination, including all children of course, universal masking, even if vaccinated, Border quarantine and more test trace and isolate. The only pandemic they’re suffering from is a pandemic of hubris.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01589-0/fulltext

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago

Zero Covid?

I thought Ferguson was barking (most generous explanation) but this lot – holy moly.

Are they unaware that the virus has evolved in line with Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection to coexist with its host so that it is endemic and essentially harmless (to the great majority of people – vaxxinated zombies excluded)? Maybe Darwin was cancelled while no one was looking.

Are they only interested in Zero One Specific Coronavirus Infection? Would they consider aiming for Zero Common Cold as an easier starting point?

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago

All of the Big Pharma drugs being pushed are very expensive – well beyond the means of the great majority of people in the world. There are countries where the GDP (I know but it is a starting point) is a few hundred dollars. That is not far off the cost of a set of jabs and boosters for one person. The rest of the family then has nothing for the rest of the year – that’s gonna work, right

The vaxxine promoters are nothing less than true #WhiteSupremacists and #MedicalImperialists (and that is being kind). Fsck ’em all.

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