The Zero Covid absolutists at Independent SAGE have, in typical style, denounced the medical and scientific experts on the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation of proposing to use children as “human shields” because it wouldn’t rubber stamp the Government’s decision to vaccinate healthy 12-15 year-olds. Surely, it is the Government that wants to use younger teenagers as “human shields” by insisting on extending the vaccine roll out to them even though the health risks clearly outweigh the health benefits? MailOnline has more.
Members of Independent Sage, a vocal group of experts who have clung on to the idea of eliminating Covid, accused the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation of using youngsters as “human shields” to protect adults.
Newly-published minutes from JCVI meetings show that the group first looked at whether letting 12 to 15-year-olds get Covid naturally was better than vaccinating them in spring, months before the rollout was expanded to teens.
Echoing the view of many independent experts, the JCVI accepted allowing the virus to circulate naturally could give youngsters strong immunity and also protect adults — without the risk of side effects from vaccines.
The panel emphasised Covid posed such a tiny threat to children and raised concerns about a heart inflammation condition associated with the jabs in young people.
“Children rarely develop severe disease or die of Covid; even children with underlying comorbidities have a very low risk,’ the JCVI said in its 32nd meeting on May 13.
“There are limited data on Covid vaccine use in children; there is a need to consider the mild transient illness of Covid versus potential rare adverse events associated with vaccination.
“There is an argument for allowing the virus to circulate amongst children which could provide broader immunity to the children and boost immunity in adults.”
The group also considered that children might be better off catching Covid at a young age, when they are at low risk, so that they are less vulnerable in adulthood, as is the case with chicken pox and other viral infections.
Dr Kit Yates, a mathematical biologist at the University of Bath and Independent Sage member, quoted excerpts from a number of JCVI minutes in a lengthy Twitter thread, writing: ‘Anti-vax or JCVI?’
His colleague Professor Alice Roberts, a public health expert at the University of Birmingham, said the views expressed at the meetings were “just appalling”. Other Independent Sage members described them as “upsetting”.
Worth reading in full.
If members of the JCVI can be accused of being “anti-vaxxers”, the phrase has clearly lost any connection with its original meaning and now means “anyone who raises the slightest concern about the Covid vaccines, regardless of their medical or scientific expertise”.
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All of the Big Pharma drugs being pushed are very expensive – well beyond the means of the great majority of people in the world. There are countries where the GDP (I know but it is a starting point) is a few hundred dollars. That is not far off the cost of a set of jabs and boosters for one person. The rest of the family then has nothing for the rest of the year – that’s gonna work, right
The vaxxine promoters are nothing less than true #WhiteSupremacists and #MedicalImperialists (and that is being kind). Fsck ’em all.
Zero Covid?
I thought Ferguson was barking (most generous explanation) but this lot – holy moly.
Are they unaware that the virus has evolved in line with Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection to coexist with its host so that it is endemic and essentially harmless (to the great majority of people – vaxxinated zombies excluded)? Maybe Darwin was cancelled while no one was looking.
Are they only interested in Zero One Specific Coronavirus Infection? Would they consider aiming for Zero Common Cold as an easier starting point?
These are the same health fascists who published this paper in the Lancet in July, when they called for increased lockdown. No re-opening until we had had total vaccination, including all children of course, universal masking, even if vaccinated, Border quarantine and more test trace and isolate. The only pandemic they’re suffering from is a pandemic of hubris.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01589-0/fulltext
Why do we have so many actual commies advising government?
To balance out the thieving money grabbing capitalist bastards that suck all the cash from the public sector.
“Members of Independent Sage, a vocal group of experts”! Can we PLEASE stop calling them ‘experts’, they are political activists pushing their own agenda.
‘Ex’ – a has been
‘Spurt’ – a drip under pressure
Is that Alice Roberts, the BBC celebrity health official?
Indoctrinated.
That was always the reason for creation of the term. Same as using the word ‘denier’ which is now the most obvious see through propaganda word ever.
Is there a money trail leading to these ‘independent’ SAGE people I wonder?
Photo at top of article looks like a kid is going to inject another kid 🙂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59108939
I wonder what could possibly cause a super fit 33 year old professional footballer to suddenly develop chest pains and cardiological issues that are serious enough to need immediately hospitalisation and at least 3 months rest and recuperation? Asking for a friend…………..
“If members of the JCVI can be accused of being “anti-vaxxers”, the phrase has clearly lost any connection with its original meaning and now means “anyone who raises the slightest concern about the Covid vaccines, regardless of their medical or scientific expertise”.”
Yes, quite. What we witness here is the intrusion into medical science by totalitarian power politics, and an elite with a revolting subversive agenda who will go to any lengths to avoid paying for the crimes against humanity they have meted out over the last 18 months.
Independent Sage should be looked into for any connections to the Chinese Communist Party.
Whenever something new comes out regarding Covid you can pretty much predict how iSage will react. They’re just so obvious.
Imagine being “upset” about finding out people tasked with discussing the pros and cons of certain scenarios actually discussed the pros and cons.
Independent Sage really are a bunch of Death-Eaters, aren’t they. Very sorry to see Carol Cadwalladr signed up to them.
Entries in TGA DAEN Australia Database :-
11th Oct – 17th Oct, 2021 for #Pfizervaccine
Myocarditis:-
– 12 yrs old
– 13 yrs old
– 14 yrs old
– 15 yrs old
– 16 yrs old
Pericarditis:-
– 13 yrs old
– 16 yrs old
This is NOT normal!!
https://twitter.com/real_GGoswami/status/1454946873874128904
If an anti-vaxxer is defined as a person who trusts their own immune system rather than pharmaceutical companies, career politicians and the corporate media, then I have to put my hand up
Very powerful cartoon by Bob Moran:
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Has Joel Smalley been suspended from Twitter?
Looks like it, his account was working earlier this evening 🙁
https://www.skysports.com/share/12457436
Doesn’t look like it was a panic attack then?
It is not a cult.
It is not a cult.
It is not a cult.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1455250990580453377
I am now a Nazi and anti-vaxxer.
Needless to say that I am ‘fully vaccinated’ with real vaccines against diseases it makes sense for, just not in favour of the experimental gene therapy, any coercion, any discrimination and the vaxx passport in conjunction with it.
And kind of a strange Nazi, one being for freedom of speech, scientific discussion and dissent and the supremacy if inalienable individual rights (in particular bodily autonomy).
I probably wouldn’have lasted long in 30s Germany, in contrast to those who now call me one, but so be it.
Both terms are now a badge of honour coming from these people, and their inflated use is an indication that those labels aren’t even being bought by the public any more, only by the most zealous Covidians in the chattering class.
Don’t forget you’re probably a racist transphobe too
https://www.bitchute.com/video/40Ho2GR6t86Z/
BitChute – MAG BITTER TRUTH – 💥BAM!💥
As far as I am concerned we have reached the point – possibly quite some time ago – where the term now means “a person with sufficient common sense to make a sensible choice for their own body”
Anti mandatory vaccines, anti vaccine passports.
Both smack of totalitarianism.
Cultists will invariably portray their ‘opponents’ (real and imagined (the latter applying in this instance)), as participating in the very act(s) in which they are participating. It’s truly fascinating. This phenomenon is so widespread in contemporary discourse that future (even current) academics will have a field day with this anti-intellectual, anti-rational bullshit.
I mean, it’s not even sort of clever. It’s transparent projection.
Given that, statistically speaking, this disease poses no risk to children, and thus the risk from inaction with regard to children is zero, and any risk from intervention is utterly unacceptable, then, of course, the ones using children as ‘human shields’ are the vaccinators, and their ‘anti-vax’ label is an epithet, a mere prop to disguise their own anti-scientific rhetoric/stance.
I’m anti-vaccine. I favour the human immune system over artificially induced immunity. I think vaccines should be used sparingly and only when the risk of death is incredibly high, such as rabies or tetanus.
I’m also generally anti most drugs. I think they should be used sparingly and only when there is really no other option.
To my mind, both those are perfectly rational positions and I’m quite happy to state my position and defend it.
Basically, I don’t take being labelled as anti-vax is any sort of insult. Quite on the contrary.
Anti-drug?
Spot on.
I’ve been “anti vax” since being an unwilling recipient of the Polio jab donkey’s years ago!
My career has only served to confirm how right I was at that time, albeit aged 5 or 6.
One of my worst nightmares now looms, effectively compulsory jabs/ gene therapy for kids, at the behest of these fuckers. My apologies for the language but needs must.
If only I could meet them in a dark alley…..
Himmler vs. Goering.
Promoted by Goebbels and directed by Mengele.
None of the terms used by anyone on Team Zero Mankind (All we care for is COVID!) mean anything. They’re just labels to stick to the enemy in the usual (for wokesters) guilt-by-association scheme. These are really all just names which need to be put on some list of people with zero intellectual or any other kind of integrity who’ll literally stop at nothing if it furthers their political goals.
I used to consider myself politically disinterested but generally left-leaning not that long ago. These people have thoroughly cured me from that. They may not really be shape-shifting repitilians but they’re exactly as human as if they were.
It is clear that those in power do not envisage us ever returning to a “democratic” system of distributed and balanced powers.
They have destroyed any illusion of scientific independence, no-one can trust the state vaccine programme ever again, parliament is a total sham, the judiciary is clearly bought or terrified, free speech no longer exists ….where can we go from here?
The only route will be dictatorship….for ever….otherwise those who have committed these crimes will be at risk.
Yep : “a boot tramping on a human face – forever”!
If, at the end of the COP conf, the world leaders announced some decision involving the transference of sovereignty to the UN to create a ‘one world government’ to tackle the climate crisis etc – creating conditions where the elite prosper and the rest of us are turned into serfs [ably facilitated by the worldwide pandemic restrictions and unified determination they all seem to have to ‘build back better’] I wouldn’t be at all surprised – possibly too soon?? Who knows, but that is where it seems to be headed.
As long as we have a good quality of lif, I honestly don’t care how the world is governed
That was how many felt when Pol Pot got going.
And who is backing iSage and giving them airtime? Often presenting them as experts in a field they’re unqualified to comment on.
If you check out their website you will find that their funding seems to come from ‘Citizens’ which receive funding from the Ford Foundation.
https://www.independentsage.org/independent-sage/
No surprise to find that along with David ‘Deisel’ King, Susan ‘masks forever’ Michie is one of the main protagonists’
Surely if very old people need to die to relieve pressure on the NHS and reduce climate change through population reduction, Sir David could step forward and top himself to give a lead?
I seem to recall him urging old people to die quietly at home in spring last year.