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NHS Test and Trace Was a £37 Billion Failure, Report Finds

by Luke Perry
27 October 2021 10:26 AM

A recent report by the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) has concluded that the Test and Trace scheme, implemented to track and control the spread of Covid, failed in its original purpose at a cost of £37 billion to the taxpayer. Of the 2,000 consultants hired to manage the scheme, it has been uncovered that no more than 50% were working directly on the Test and Trace project at any time, with one call handler claiming to have received £4,500 without picking up the phone once. The Telegraph has the story.

MPs said billions had been squandered on a failed promise to “enable people to return towards a more normal way of life”, that instead saw two national lockdowns and a rise in case numbers.

The excoriating report, published just before the Chancellor sets out details of a £5.9 billion funding boost for the NHS, details a host of missed targets and a lack of control over spending on consultants…

The publication marks a major blow for a programme, which was championed by then Health Secretary Matt Hancock and hailed by Boris Johnson as “world-beating”.

When it was launched last May, Hancock said it would enable the Government to replace national lockdowns with “individual isolation” for contacts of Covid cases. 

Dame Meg Hillier, Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, said: “The national Test & Trace programme was allocated eye-watering sums of taxpayers’ money in the midst of a global health and economic crisis.”

“It set out bold ambitions but has failed to achieve them despite the vast sums thrown at it”.

The report shows how the performance of the system deteriorated just when it was needed most, despite spare capacity in laboratories. Meanwhile, less than half of the contact tracing staff hired were ever in use at any one time.

While the country was in lockdown in February, just 11% of contact tracers were working. 

Worth reading in full.

Tags: NHS Test and Trace

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nickbowes
nickbowes
3 years ago

Dido the “dodo” sums up the wretched modern day Tory Party.

37 billion could have done wonders for a hospital building expansion or cancer care.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

Unfortunately much the same would have happened with any of the other political parties at the helm.

Most of our institutions are rotten to the core and need to be demolished and rebuilt from scratch. The civil service, the National Hell Service, much of our education system, the police, criminal justice system, academia. And many of the “private sector” companies like Serco who depend on government money. All have become self-serving rather than serving the taxpayers who pay for them.

Perhaps only an economic depression can bring about the change that is needed, sadly that will be at the expense of a lot of blameless ordinary people.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Russian saying: “Fight difficulties with your mind, fight dangers with your experience.”

An extra 100m more people will have been forced into extreme poverty by the end of 2021 as a result of the G7 Govt induced COVID19 policies implemented globally – joining the 700m people who were living in extreme poverty already before the pandemic struck.

So what do the real players of this global RESET agenda have in store for us this coming 2021-2023 period?

  • Maximise fully the advantage of the broken supply chains, shortages of foods, goods and services.
  • Continue the rolling economic paralysis with more destructive closures of SMEs, factories and retailers
  • Make permanent unemployment numbers soar
  • Mandatory vaccines for everyone, babies included and rolling third, fourth, fifth booster enrollments
  • Step up the level of propaganda re: vaccine effectiveness and unvaccinated driven virus outbreaks
  • Demonize anti-vaxxers and hold them accountable for the burgeoning dead
  • Enforcement of bio-security digital IDs on everyone QR coded birth certificates, passports, driving licences, bank accounts and insurances.
  • Increase the euthanizing of the elderly, vulnerable, weak and infirm
  • Arrest opposition leaders, narrative questioners send dissenters to quarantine re-education containment camps.
  • Social credit score controlled citizenry via CBDC

The NEW NORMAL you’re more than welcome /s

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nickbowes
nickbowes
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

They are banking on their reset but i think many are turning towards a “Great Awakening” and numbers will only increase when those on the “jabbed” side realize they were conned and have potentially life threatening conditions. The corrupt governments are doubling down on tyranny but even they must know that a price will be paid for their treachery.
On the activism side i am heartened to be with people who were once of the right and left and many in between who now have a common hated enemy. These ranks are also supported by ex and current members of the “services” surprisingly.

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

I do so hope that you are right!

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ewloe
ewloe
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

So you hope people have potentially life threatening conditions?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

Agreed that it is important to have people from all areas of the political arena onboard but why the surprise about support from members of The Services?

They have always been represented on this site and know all about the consequences of untested vaccines; Iraq War Syndrome for instance.
I wasn’t around much when vaccines went beyond the ‘vulnerable’ so I don’t know if they posted much about it at the time.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Our wise leaders discovered very early on that anything can be justified simply by “the pandemic made me do it”. Just like “the devil made me do it” will hold up in any court of law.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Reports emerging from the US of businesses who refuse to check the double jab status of customers prior to entry (ie policing the supposed law) being closed down.
Probably go bust before it gets to court, might eventually be ok for the owners if they otherwise survive but not so good for laid off workers.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Please qualify that. California and NY , yes; most everywhere else, no.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Alex Belfied sceptic YouTube has it from California
(300 million site views in 12 months from his phone in the kitchen, Alex sometimes gets details wrong but pretty reliable on the main points).

Sorry, can’t do links from Android but there’s plenty of information on the attached to find it.
Posted 9 hours ago at this point, 17.25 today.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

It wasn’t any other political party, it was Bojo and the bunch of criminals he has installed to masqueradie as a government.

The £37 billion works out at over £500 for every person in the UK, man woman and child. However, this wasted £37 billion is just a drop in an ocean of useless government spending on Covid and the criminals in charge are getting ready to do it all again as the winter comes on.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

The Government are criminals of course, but the “opposition” stood by and let them do it, and their only criticism was the government should have done what they did, only earlier, and harder.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

It is the essential nature of government to steal from many to give back to few. The thing which usually stops it from happening is fear of legal consequences. But the government did not need to fear any consequences during this, hence it’s logical they did just what they are trying to do all the time. And the so-called “opposition” is just another group of people waiting for their turn to embezzle.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

There has been little true opposition, if you count “noes” in the Hoc on the CVA and other key legislation – where it was subject to a division. IMHO from a moral and ethical standpoint this disbars the “Ayes” and abstainers from any position in public life again – chance of that happening is zero because of the endemic revolving door Chumocracy and those incapable of discerning corruption at elections and continuing to vote for these cretins.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

But if you pretend the problem is a particular party, rather than a wholly corrupt and unfit for purpose political class and system, you merely perpetuate the problem.

There are two disastrous outcomes to this, politically – reelection of the “Conservatives” responsible for the coronapanic decisions, and election of the “Labour” zero covid nutters who failed to oppose, pushed in the wrong direction, and would have done worse in office themselves.

It’s as important to fight those who seek to exploit the disaster to put in office the regime’s collaborators, as it is to fight those who seek to protect the regime from its own responsibility. It would be nice of we’d had an alternative mainstream party that had resisted this, but we didn’t and we don’t.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

When our Scottish friends deserted Labour they had the Nats to turn to.
Where are the red wall voters going as they realise the Tories took them for idiots over Covid and Labour wanted to make it even worse.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I don’t know much about economics, but racking up this kind of debt on nothing of any tangible value, seems like it is designed to cripple the finances of the country and lock-in the coming hyper-inflation.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Indeed, a subsidy for people who produce nothing, to be paid off down the line by everyone else. This sums up all government handouts done during this pandemic.

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I think you’ve nailed it – this is “money” isn’t backed by gold and can be printed as much, and as often, as they please. Destroying the current financial system is the means to the introduction of digital money and enslavement of the masses…

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

“the principle of exclusive convertibility into gold, which, from the self-complacent dogmatism with which it has been supported, the public has been led to imagine was as old as the hills, is discovered to be an entirely new experiment, of which every trial has been attended with disaster”

History and Exposition of The Currency Question.
The Westminster Review, Volume 48

published 1848

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

You can’t cripple the finances of the country, and there will be no hyperinflation.

But you know about as much about economics as most alleged experts, so feel free to get a job at HM Treasury.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Yes MMT bright spot Zimbabwe was a true miracle, everyone is now a billionaire.

The economy has grown massively when measured in ZimBob dollars.

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Funnily enough handing out land to people that can’t farm means your economy collapses. I’ve checked the budget today and I can’t see Sunak proposing anything similar.

Aircraft crash due to bad pilots. Does that also mean you believe heavier than air flight is impossible?

Personally I’d just get better pilots – preferably ones that don’t believe they are driving a bus.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

If you print your own currency you can go on doing it endlessly. But you do risk hyperinflation.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Don’t forget the screaming success of Venezuela.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

When you flood an economy with money, the effects are not just rising prices, but also malinvestment (because people have no idea what to do with the new money) and reduction of labor force (because until prices rise people feel temporarily “rich” and slack off). This is precisely what we are witnessing around the world with the various “shortages” (real production has ceased and existing inventories were sold, so your money can no longer buy real goods/services; price adjustments to follow).

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Yup – classic inflating of a bubble in assets that bursts not in a controlled way.

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Dobba
Dobba
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Let’s spell that out more simply as to the cost:

Thirty Seven Thousand Million Pounds

or in numbers:

£37,000,000,000

How the fuck do you waste that amount on an app and the staff in the space of a year? Genuine question, asking for the country.

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Dobba
Dobba
3 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

. . . and additional to that – the 1.1million staff of the NHS cost 47.6 million per year in wages (2016/17 figures). Some people somewhere have been paying themselves a nice fat bonus if an app and staff cost that much.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

A clever chap once pointed out that this cigarette packet represents a million pounds. That small office block represents A billion.

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William Gruff
William Gruff
3 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

You slip it into the trouser pockets of your chums.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Simple – you give it to chums and businesses such as Capita who have frenzy fed from the taxpayer slush pool of “easy money” for decades – they and their ilk no exactly how to ramp up the invoices to the desperate and gullible cheque writers.

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Proveritate
Proveritate
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

It also works out at over £4000 per ‘case’.

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

They should have held their nerve and said t and t was not recommended for a respiratory virus and with many not even knowing they had the virus. But politically I guess they were being pushed and shoved. And Stamer will likely say it is because of Tory incompetence instead of impossibly. I suppose they can blame it’s failure on the deviants who refused to have the app and of course the unvaccinated! All failings will be on our heads now!

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
3 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

It hasn’t reduce the capacity to build hospitals or improve cancer care. It may have delayed it – if anybody that was likely to be involved in those two projects were otherwise engage on T&T.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

£18.5mln per consultant….
Those 37bln have not been wasted.
They have gone straight into a few peoples pockets via fake excessive invoices for the delivery of hot air.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

That figure of £37Billion has been touted for the best part of a year, surely there will have been operating costs. Even at minimum wage their bill for bloated staff numbers will be enormous.
My local Track’n’Trace office occupies a building previously designated for the S/W Europe Of The Regions H.Q. in the central business district where rents ain’t cheap.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Most of these things are problably bungs to help out favoured rent-seekers who will give them a book deal after.

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CiacBiab
CiacBiab
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

And staggeringly, over just 365 days the cost has been nearly £101.4 Million per day!

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago

Just like Matt Hancock, Test and Trace was a ”world-beating” failure at a ”world-beating” cost

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

It got a lot of public workers time off, that’s all, strangely enough it didn’t seem to affect shop workers. Now who will be accountable?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Didn’t affect me either, out and about with all sorts of people during lockdown proper (about 3k I once calculated) and more as mask exempt later. I didn’t download the App but could have easily been traced had one of them been positived.

Early into lockdown lite, last summer, I was with a lady just back from a family get together oop north. Her family stayed in the hotel where the others joined them for two evening meals. All gave their contact details as required.
Three days after she got back her northern relative called to say that the hotel had been closed down because two staff had gone down with Covid while they were there and to expect a call from Track’n’Trace; she never did.

I slightly know three of the operatives in that office, two masketeers, the other a confirmed sceptic who went back to her proper job asap, bored with playing ludo and monopoly.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Accountable, our public services?? You’re having a laugh 😂

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

From the WHO’s pandemic guidelines, October 2019

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/329438/9789241516839-eng.pdf

Contact tracing was always a stupid idea from a public health perspective. Even the pre-COVID WHO thought so.

Of course like most of the pandemic response, it wasn’t done for reasons of public health. It was done as a way to establish much of the infrastructure for the global digital ID that the likes of Blair and Gates want.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Yes, but how much worse would it have been if we didn’t have track and trace?

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Ha, ha, ha. Oh so, so much worse!

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  wendy

I know personally 82,534,871 people in the UK who had their lives saved by track and trace

That’s £00.00004p for every life saved which in my opinion is an excellent use of resources

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I like your thinking. Next we can implement mandatory government-subsidized crucifixes and garlic cloves against vampires and other such important safety measures.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I think I can personally guarantee that there will be zero deaths from vampire blood extraction, if we implement that government policy, and my company is ready to contribute to the fight with our patented Garlic Extract recipe and new line of disposable plastic crucifixes.

Give me a few weeks and I’ll have the report of the vampire predation modelling study group I’ve funded at Imperial, to show how many millions will die if we don’t implement the policy immediately.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’ve repurposed my tasteful battery operated twinkling candle set 🕯🕯🕯that I put in a bedroom window just to irritate militant atheists at Xmas.
They now twinkle through equally tasteful sky blue face panties😷, it’s a bit stark 🥶and electric rather than cozy though.
🌔 ideal now the nights are drawing in 🌘 .

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I’ll get a contract drawn up

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Imagine the horror! 😱 All those people not being able to skive off work for 14 days on full pay, even worse when they cut it back to only ten! 🥵

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

We could have been as badly off as Norway, Denmark or Gasp Sweden!!
Oh noes.

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JamesM
JamesM
3 years ago

Well, I don’t suppose anyone will be held to account over this fiasco. If there were any justice, though, heads would roll.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  JamesM

The only response will be “More, Stronger Test & Trace”, wanna bet?

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

“If we hadn’t been hindered from rolling out the whole £100bn Moonshot, things would have been fine.”

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

was it a stack of pound coins?

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

“The report shows how the performance of the system deteriorated just when it was needed most”

lol! it wasn’t needed at all. You’d have been better off not launching a bioterror attack on care homes and just letting everyone else get on with it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Yep, once they’d screwed that up they should have let it rip except for those medically designated as needing to shield (ie none of that ‘I’m obese so I’ll stay home bollocks) with appropriate support.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

Any chance that the Shadow Chancellor will raise this mishandling of taxpayers’ money in the Opposition’s response to the Budget Speech?

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

No. The shadow chancellor will say they should have done more

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  wendy

And sooner and for longer; he’ll also moan about ‘eat out to help out’, possibly rightly so since that turned to be a total waste of time once tiers 3+4 came in and those outlets all had to close down again, many for good.
Not intended as praise for Starmer, broken clock right twice a day thing🕰🕰

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

I know someone who was a call handler last summer. She said that she received hardly any work from the system (i.e. there were no contacts for her to trace and therefore little work to do) but the system had a way of monitoring people who weren’t sitting glued to their activity-free computer screen for their entire shift and she had supervisors phoning up and pestering her frequently when she stepped away from her laptop even for a few minutes.

I imagine this was repeated nationwide since by the time the system had been rolled out the first wave was over and there were hardly any cases to trace.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

As above, locally they were playing cards 🃏and board games, not allowed to use personal devices🎮 while on shift apparently.
That’s after Management spent several days trying to work out how to get the system💻 working⌨, some problem with passwords I believe🧮.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

given that everyone on Earth is going to be forced by law to be injected 4 times a year with a Pfizer jab. Shouldn’t we at least nationalise Pfizer? At least it will take the obvious profit motive out of it

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Mr Dee
Mr Dee
3 years ago

What can you buy with 37 billion pounds?

Building a robotic scientist and putting it on Mars – £1.8bn
The most expensive highway project in US History – £20.5bn
The Hubble Telescope – £7.9bn
The Channel Tunnel – £12bn
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/four-huge-projects-cost-less-19988125

6uilding 6ritain 6ackwards

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

A loaf of bread next summer

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

With the necessary wheelbarrow worth considerably more.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Really high quality gallows.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Nationwide packs of robot dogs sniffing peoples body temperature from yards away (as recently seen on YouTube in China) then linked to facial recognition software to bark at people before they get bundled away by persons in space suits.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

Well, at least one parliamentary committee comes up with the goods.

What is probably not there is the fact that ‘Test & Trace’ was bound to fail in this situation of a widespread infection. It was a stupid idea that had been stamped on by all previous strategy documents.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It was bound fail to once 30 or 50 points of entry had been identified even though the UK had two weeks extra to prepare than Europe by virtue of being an island.

All those Contagion movies bozo and Wancock based their policies on assume a single Patient Zero.

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Phil Shannon
Phil Shannon
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

But they were seen to be DOING SOMETHING and that was always the whole point (of lockdowns, masks, etc. etc. as well

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Indeed. The whole lot is a classic political syllogism, based on the idea “something must be done….” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician%27s_syllogism

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The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
3 years ago

I think of all the catastrophic decisions made in the last 18 months this is one that riles me the most.

That is OUR money. Every penny needs to be accounted for and anything that was spent over and above what was reasonable for what they were buying or paying for (Im biting my tongue here as obviously none of it should have been bought or paid for) needs to be recouped.

It is an utterly insane amount of money.

In the City (sorry – I work there so its a good comparison for me) we have something called the Senior Managers Regime which basically says that if your staff do something incompetent that has a serious material affect on your firm or the markets in general, then even if it isnt illegal, you as the manager are held fully responsible and possibly go to jail.

I fail to see why politicians are not held to the same standards.

Who signed off on each expense, was it reasonable, if not pay it back (out of your own pocket if it cant be recouped) or go to jail……

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

Of course the politicians and high ranking civil servants should pay it back, do not use my tax money to keep them in jail! Or bring back debtors jails, they had to provide their own food and drink, clothes, and bribes for the guards.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

And prostitute their loved ones to the guards for any little extras like blankets.

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

“needs to be recouped”

It’s automatically recouped. They don’t use Sterling anywhere else so it just bounces around until it heads back to the Exchequer as taxes. Your spending is my income less taxes. My spending is your income less taxes. And so on.

The money is irrelevant, and arguably stimulative in a depressed economy.

It’s the time wasted on the thing that can never be recouped. That’s the real loss to the country.

Although admittedly tying Dido Harding on something so she can’t make a mess of anything else is probably worth paying for.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

It will be your grandchildren who will be paying it off less the amount that can be inflated away which itself will reduce the value of their assets (pass at ‘0’ level Economics C1970s tells me this).

Not mine as I don’t have any that I know about.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

MMT is just so batshit insane.

It reminds me of those adjusting reality to fit the models.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

Was it Barings bank that went to the wall because of the malfeasance of a single junior player?

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The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It was indeed……..though that was where he hid the losses from his employers (though they should have noticed)

There are many examples of enormous losses racked up by relatively junior employees at banks/hedge funds/trading houses – google London Whale for one such example. Even though none were necessarily illegal, thats why the regulators brought in the regime to force senior managers to take a much more ‘hands on’ approach to supervising their staff.

Its amazing how the threat of a huge personal fine and/or jail time focusses the attention……

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

So pissed off with all this now. My SIL returned to the office 3 days a week last week. Colleague, double jabbed sitting behind him, daughter tested positive last week but he didn’t have to self isolate because he’s jabbed, now positive this week and quite poorly so SIL now having to self isolate for 10 days despite having covid with symptoms two months ago. All because the govt guidelines makes no allowance for natural immunity and people are still buying into this shit.
Off topic, please can I encourage as many people as possible to make large banners to display at your local cenotaph at the remembrance parade with “MPs name is a total hypocrite, he/she has removed the freedoms so many gave their lives for”
Or something similar, we need to start waking more people up and this might just jolt them.

Last edited 3 years ago by Catee
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Superunknown
Superunknown
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

“make large banners to display at your local cenotaph at the remembrance parade with “MPs name is a total hypocrite, he/she has removed the freedoms so many gave their lives for”

100% yes, I really love this idea.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

Thanks, on the day make sure someone takes a photo and pits it on local ‘spotted’ and any other platforms to get as large an audience as possible.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I’m no longer out and about much but are people really still going along with this self isolation crap?
Are they skiving or is it management at the behest of insurance companies?

Great idea about the banners though; my MP was conspicuously absent throughout except to vote for ‘Sooner, Stronger, Longer’ for each and every lockdown measure.
Just once in the middle of this summer did he squeak up asking for an exemption for this staycation district after the hospitality trade bit his head off.

Last edited 3 years ago by karenovirus
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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They are if there’s the risk that they’ll get a knock on the door to check they’re in, especially if unjabbed.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

What a great idea – our MP is the attack dog for the “Fact checking” STASI andI have left him in no doubt what I think of his unbending support for this charade; I did think it might from a point of principle POV until he was – very recently – elevated to a position in the “levelling up” bollox department – my delusion reset in a heartbeat.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

Well, what is to be done about this? Will the BBC, Sky, ITV and the other proganda outlets report upon this disgraceful largesse?

There is no saving grace now for Johnson. Hancock and co. They have to be prosecuted for malfeasance and disgraceful conduct in public office.

P.S. I will not be paying any Lockdown Tax and would rather stop working.

Last edited 3 years ago by BJs Brain is Missing
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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Define “Lockdown Tax”….

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

There is an old Russian proverb that says you can take a wolf by the ears, but you can never let go. The current regime now has the wolf, the public, by the ears ant it knows it can never let go otherwise it’s going to get what’s coming to it.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Thats a good saying, never heard jt before 😊

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I’n just waiting till they do let go. I hope the wolf bloody tears their throats out.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

There is another old saying that ‘you don’t need to run faster than a wolf to get away, just faster than the other person running with you’.
Excellently portrayed in the movie The Legion
(shoot your companion in the leg).

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

Of course it was a colossal failure. All you need to do is look to any other country which did not implement any such bollocks and fared just as well (if not better).

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

Glad they’ve said this but we could have saved them whatever it cost for the PAC to come to this conclusion. This was predicted by us here when it first announced.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, we)d have told the cretins to scrub it and we’d only have demanded a paltry £1000 or so a day for our consultancy services!

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago

In Germany T&T was done by local health office employees. They, did take on extra staff for that and commissioned a computer programme which failed.
There were lots of reports of people getting letters with instructions to isolate for 2 weeks a week after the isolation period ended, which was even stated in the letter. And the letters did not get lost in the mail system, they were written after the period had ended.
But, I guess the good German civil servants has to do their job correctly, just like those T&T supervisors here reprimanding bored tracers who look out of the window for something more interesting to stare at.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

I do not believe £37 billion was “spaffed” on Test and Trace. This is beyond ridiculous or the bulk went to line somebody’s pocket.

The figure of £37 billion suggests other more nefarious projects have been hidden and funded from within this sum, but doubtless of an AI nature.

This sort of con is standard accounting procedure where public spending is involved.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

The Oliver North Arms for Contras scandal being a prime example of subversive slush funds.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

TBF I think that figure was the budget – the actual spend, certainly at one time, was somewhat less.

Doesn’t make it taste any better though, does it?

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago

This is well worth the read.

“We have been sold a fantasy designed to rope us into a pharmaceutical dependency as a deceitful trade-off for access to our lives”

https://brownstone.org/articles/your-booster-life-how-big-pharma-adopted-the-subscription-model-of-profitability/

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Reading it now – at the start it says “By now it is abundantly clear from the epidemiological data that the vaccinated are able to both catch and spread the disease.” But it’s worth noting the science always knew these vaccines were leaky and would allow transmission. This has always been known, so the governments would have known they would allow transmission before the first jab was given. An important point for the prosecution at the war crimes trials.

Last edited 3 years ago by Horse
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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

The basis that it lowers symptoms is iffy as well.
At least in my experience. Double Jabbed acquaintances all had reactions to jabs, then felt rubbish for longer than I did after

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
3 years ago

FFS … absolutely fecking incredible.

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WilliamC
WilliamC
3 years ago

Test and Trace wasn’t supposed to work on its own terms, just as the Nightingale hospitals were never intended to be used. Both were props for the National Sickness Theatre. But if the return on investment were to be measured on compliance, every one of those £37 billion was well spent. Test and Trace has habituated millions of people to an app-driven, health-status-dependent mode of social existence and has prepared the ground for vaccine passports.  

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  WilliamC

I was going to point out that it depends on what it was really intended for but you’ve said it so much better than I could.
As you say, friends, family and I all thought it was a pilot study for a check-point Charlie society.
We didn’t down-load it and doubted many did. It was claimed high numbers had, but numbers are a bit ‘variable’ depending on what government wants at the time

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debra
debra
3 years ago

I’d be very surprised if much of this was actually spent on Test & Trace. The cynic in me thinks it was actually spent developing the Digital ID/Heath/Freedom Pass technologies, with a large pot reserved for funding the BI “Nudge” Units work over the coming year.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Don’t we mean a “world beating” failure!

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

“World cheating failure”

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FlynnQuill
FlynnQuill
3 years ago

Well, there’s a shocker!! As an IT professional and ex programmer. I’d have said a couple of grand was way over the top for this app. I can knock an app out in PowerApps in a couple of days that would do the same thing.

Lots of questions need to be asked and Ms Dildo, sorry Dido should be jailed. We would be.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
3 years ago

Funny with all this tracking and tracing they never mentioned that all of it led back to western funded gain of function research in Wuhan.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

For those who haven’t seen it, what did bozo say to catch the interviewer off guard?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Doesn’t play, what did he say?

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Mr Dee
Mr Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Here’s the vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LkZEZA7PDY

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s him suggesting “feeding some of the human beings to the animals”. Maybe the magnitude of the crimes that he is involved in are starting to cause a breakdown.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Correct, in response to the interviewer asking about declining wild biomass.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Not a new idea; thoroughly recommend you scope “Soylent Green”, Charlton Heston and Edward G Robinson in his last film role, if I remember correctly. For a film made 45+ years ago, it was well ahead of its time.

It might be art imitating life if Bozo has his way.

Last edited 3 years ago by 186NO
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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

As I have being saying for the past 15 months the real top story is the mass murder of tens of thousands in the care homes

I suspect the truth about this will only start to come out as some of the civil cases come to court. This is likely to be many years down the line

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

Not just the £37 billion but countless billions in lost productivity with healthy people stuck at home doing nothing

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SJR
SJR
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

And of course that loss productivity includes many thousands of NHS employees who were either moved off frontline roles or sent home because there were ‘vulnerable’, or had to isolate due to tests or being pinged. That can’t have helped the NHS cope with its workload.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Given the % of Wah!NHS employees engaged in non productive paper chasing, it didn’t make a huge difference.
It is the refusal of Wah!NHS staff to see potential patients, conduct screening, surgery and treatment that has caused so many extra deaths.

Funny that those nasty systems in continental europe, japan etc didn’t have the same problems.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Anyone else getting a 502 Bad Gateway error message when moving around the site ?
This sometimes happens for a minute or two if they are loading a new article but it’s been happening on and off for 45 minutes now.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Perhaps they took a while getting the German Xmas Market page up?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Nah, but they were being rude to me the other day, calling me a nonce.

Last edited 3 years ago by Anti_socialist
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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Predators track and trace

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yohodi
yohodi
3 years ago

Baroness Dido Harding ..married to John Penrose MP for Weston-super-mare, and HMGs Anti corruption champion..
Then there is Dame Catherine Bingham..married to Jesse Norman MP Financial Secretary to the Treasury from 2019 to 2021 and as the Member of Parliament for Hereford and South Herefordshire since 2010.
You couldn’t make this shit up..I guess you have to be in it to win it..

Last edited 3 years ago by yohodi
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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  yohodi

The revolving door Chumocracy for you…

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TruthHurts2077
TruthHurts2077
3 years ago

4 & 1/2 grand not to answer the phone once?! Maybe it was a scumbag MP moonlighting whilst ‘working from home’…

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cloud6
cloud6
3 years ago

Perhaps there should also be a watch on Local Authorities too. Our Council (with 256,000 citizens) has had £136.3 Million in Covid related funding over 14 months. I do hope they’re keeping a proper audit trail on this taxpayer cash. Will be very interesting to see where it all went.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

Some went on sending residents instruction manuals explaining how to stay indoors.

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hurleyp
hurleyp
3 years ago

A “successful” transfer of wealth from the productive makers to the unproductive takers.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

“NHS Test and Trace Was a £37 Billion Failure”
No shit, Sherlock! Some of us worked that out when it started.

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Manjushri
Manjushri
3 years ago

Imagine throwing away or trying to spend over £100m a day for a year. Guess you dont have to now as our ‘leaders’ have shown by example.
No problem though as the global private banking elite are more than happy to loan as much as is deemed necessary to enslave future generations in debt tax repayment.

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imp66
imp66
3 years ago

No sh*t, Sherlock!

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John Drewry
John Drewry
3 years ago

What do you mean, a failure? It was a raging success. Follow the money. One or two have creamed it for doing Fanny Adams.

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