The length of time people must wait after receiving their second Covid vaccine dose before getting their ‘booster’ could be cut from six months to five, under new plans being drawn up by the Government and its scientific advisers.
This is strange given that more people (almost three-quarters of a million more people) are already becoming eligible each week for a third dose than are actually being ‘jabbed’. Perhaps ministers have some more ‘nudges‘ in mind for those who are unwilling to come forward. The Telegraph has the story.
Proposals to cut the waiting time for a third Covid jab from six months to five are under discussion in Whitehall, with the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) understood to be showing interest in the idea.
It would mean the vast majority of over-65s could be vaccinated by early November rather than early December, and all over-70s jabbed now rather than by mid-November.
Boris Johnson indicated support for the change on Thursday, saying it was an “extremely important point” and the programme should move “as fast as possible”.
Analysis by the Telegraph suggests nine million more people could get a booster jab if the change happened now, doubling the number of those eligible.
Jeremy Hunt, the former Health Secretary, floated the change on Thursday as a way to boost the number of people who have maximum Covid protection before Christmas. …
The roll-out of Covid booster jabs, which offer people aged over 50 a top-up to their immunity, has been criticised after only half of those eligible have taken up the offer.
There has been discussion inside the Government about changing the definition of ‘fully jabbed’ from two Covid jabs to three for those who are eligible in order to encourage uptake, although no change is expected soon. Mr. Javid said earlier this week that demand and not supply was the problem, adding: “We’ve got the jabs – we just need the arms to put them in.” …
It is understood that Downing Street is open to dropping the six-month delay but will wait for any change in advice from the JCVI. [Not that the body’s advice mattered much when it came to the vaccination of healthy children.]
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: This piece about the vaccine roll-out and its diminishing returns by an anonymous substacker called eugyppius is very good. Worth bearing in mind that if the Government has its way anonymous accounts like this would probably be unlawful.
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Look what happened to “cases” in Israel after they launched their booster programme at the end of July.
Still, I expect that was just another cock-up.
Also look at the Deaths graph, same timescale.
Still, I’m sure it will all work out differently in the UK.
Am I reading the Y axis correctly? The death rate is running at 3 per million!!! Or 0.0003% and I assume that’s with people tested as positive. (I see that the typical person dying with Covid on the death certificate is 85 with 5 or more comorbidities. Or use to be known as dying of old age).
That’s why the Covideers hate absolute risk reduction figures.
3 per million seems like a very small amount but remember that is every day.
Here’s a way of putting it in perspective.
The population of Israel is 9.2 million – so 3 per million per day is about 27 people a day.
In pre-Covid times Israel’s crude mortality rate was about 5.2 per thousand per year which works out as about 140 deaths a day. So 3 per million per day is about 20% of the usual crude mortality rate.
That does after all assume COVID deaths are all additional and not substitute for those dying of other comorbidities.
I don’t agree. If seems to me quite significant that 20% of deaths were from a different cause in 2021 than in previous years. The main point being that 20% of deaths is significant in most contexts.
Ummm, so are you saying/hinting/implying/adducing that the “different cause” resulting in “20% of deaths” was “because of” CV19? Don’t think it is a straightforward as that with “official statistics”, is it, especially when you consider that the NHS, for example, is being less than open with the number of people in hospital infected with SARS COV2 – there appears to be no split between “vaccinated” or “unvaccinated”(I acknowledge I might have missed that stat) and they do not disclose, in the recent presentation of these data, how many people were hospitalised, vaccinated or unvaccinated, without infection and then acquired the infection …in hospital? ( I gather the NHS has these stats buried in the “small print” and have been ticked of more than once by the Statistics watchdog ). This is important when you consider the NHS stats confirm that – to date – less than 200 people have died of SARS COV2 derived CV19 with no co – morbidities and these data are now universally described on MSM as “deaths within 28 days of a positive test”.
May I ask if you are still of the opinion that the spike protein disappears from your body “in a couple of days”?
Of course , for some people it may well do; but that comment you made the other day was not qualified in any way so we are left to deduce that you refer to all jabbed individuals? And that is in the light of studies of which I cannot imagine you are unaware that show the spike protein can persist in the body for much much longer – testimony from Pathologists who carried out post mortem histologies being unimpeachable – as well as other studies which show that it IS the spike protein that causes the damage ( proved by contrasting the lack of evidence of an inflammatory response in subjects who had SARS COV2 injected with the S1 spike protein removed ) echoing the real world (pathologica)l experience of people such as Dr Ryan Cole..?
“Sincere according to truth” ( Noah Webster’s Dictionary ) – great if this was universally adopted but then I am very happy to be regarded as naive..
As I saw someone point out on Twitter – those people declining the vaccine are probably not the demographic of people likely to getting tested all the time which you could argue means it’s the vaccinated that are testing positive (if indeed those tests are accurate and not just finding standard influenza or dead covid proteins).
Good point. If you are dumb enough to go out and get a test then you are certainly a candidate for being dumb enough to get a jab.
It would make a nice change if the stupidity of the population worked in our favour for once.
As Dr Robert Malone says, “More is not better in vaccine world”. Overuse of a vaccine can seriously degrade the body’s own immune system.
Just like antibiotics – they were being handed out like smarties for all kinds of very minor conditions by GP’s everywhere for many years (I know someone who got given antibiotics for a simple common cold) – then when a real big virus come along the antibiotics were next to useless because the viruses had become resistant to them.
Just a quick corrective – antibiotics were never useful for viruses – they are antibacterials. Otherwise your comment stands.
i.e. the Jab’s failed, you need a another jab.
THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT INFECTION SPREAD (HERD IMMUNITY) IS FOR AS MANY OF THE NON VULNERABLE AS POSSIBLE TO GET COVID.
I hereby appoint you as England’s Chief Medical Officer. Can you start this afternoon?
It didn’t need to be this way, the jabs could’ve worked for longer if there hadn’t been a mass rollout and they’d solely been used by the vulnerable (over 80s, diabetics).
A dim idea. The most vulnerable are also most vulnerable to the vaccines – a group for which there was no test data.
The point is though that mass jabbing caused the virus to evolve around the jab.
EVEN IF they worked (and you are correct, there’s no way to tell they didnt test on the old) jabbing everyone stopped them having any effect.
Can you patent herd immunity? Don’t think gates et al. would be interested if it’s not turning a profit.
How about a two week residential course where you are constantly exposed of the virus, and charge the same as hotel quarantine. That should bring a nice contribution.
some more of the ‘informed’ needed before informed consent…
French research showing that vaccines increase new infection and deaths in many countries including the UK: https://www.globalresearch.ca/Covid-19-vaccines-lead-to-new-infections-and-mortality-the-evidence/5746393
A comparison between 178 countries according to their vaccination rates versus death rates by a German author coming to very similar conclusions: https://coronakrise-blog.jimdofree.com/start/02-04-21-ist-die-wirkung-der-impfung-messbar-teil-4/
much much more information on vaccine safety here…
https://www.independentinformation.co.uk/resources/articles/covid-vaccines-safe-effective
ps – the author welcomes any comments as he seems to believe in the ‘old normal’ scientific way
Keep’em coming, Major!
Dr Clare Craig
@ClareCraigPath
·Case rates per 100,000 are now double in the double vaccinated population than the unvaccinated for people aged 40 to 79.
Prof Norman Fenton
@profnfenton
·Interesting. In fact, in EACH age category from 30 up the case rate is higher in the double vaccinated than the unvaccinated. Moreover, as we highlight here https://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2021/10/comparing-all-cause-mortality-rate-by.html… ONS may be underestimating number of unvaccinated so unvacc rates are likely even lower than stated
This smacks of desperation. Perhaps they have gone barking mad. I think boosters every 6 months or annually would be widely accepted cf. Flu jabs. But if the frequency keeps being increased, people will start to wonder.
You think boosters every 6 months would be accepted?
Jesus, and I thought I had a low opinion of the public.
But sadly Julian is probably right, because it’s a belief system, that people don’t realise they are in. There will still be many left in it if they were told to take boosters every day, like aspirin…
They told us it was a good idea to take daily aspirin.
Then they told us it was a very bad idea.
See-saw, Margery Daw, Bozo has got a new master.
Yes undoubtedly they would be accepted as just another thing like annual flu jabs, except of course for a much more deadly disease and to protect overseas travel holiday ‘rights’. I think we should all support this (not the passport element obviously) but suggest each jab costs the patient £500 with a hefty donation from this going to help the ever ailing NHS. This might stem some of the enthusiasm…
Yes, if the unjabbed have to fund tests then the GMO should fund their jabs.
Clever way of phrasing it. They are cutting the “waiting time”. Cutting waiting times sounds like a good thing. Now you don’t have to wait as long. Brilliant.
I wonder if the Nazi’s ever walked into the barracks at Auschwitz and announced that they were cutting waiting times for the showers. Probably not. They were much less duplicitous.
“The amount of time people must wait…”?! Are there people out there desperate to get a jab every day if they could?
It’s manipulation. This is all health and NHS related. And in that context ‘waiting times” are a bad thing and cutting waiting time is a good thing.
Some psych-ops person has worked on the wording to make it sound as if getting jabbed after 5 months instead of 6 months is a triumph, and not like the catastrophic failure it actually is.
You have to admire how good these people are being evil.
Oh, and despair at the crushingly low intellectual level at The Telegraph that just repeats the wording without spotting the con.
But it’s great for Pfizer profits.
Yes. Yes, there really are. Remember, people were “caught” obtaining clot-shots by lying about their social worth.
Here: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/covid-vaccine-queue-jump-it-loophole-b900458.html
And colonials Elizabeth Warrening their way to clot shots: https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/558933-white-millionaires-who-fraudulently-got-vaccines-meant-for
Not so much “nudging”, as downright terrorism. We seem about to enter the “vaccine” equivalent of “Nacht und Nebel”.
I have every confidence that the 93rd booster will be the definitive one.
Risen ne va plus!
That’s right. At 93 you become Covid. You can’t be infected with Covid because you already are Covid. In Buddhist terms it’s Arahant, comparable to falling into the depths of a cloud and disappearing.
If at first you don’t succeed
Totally off-topic (not), but i’m surprised statins don’t cure covid.
Perhaps the Daily Mail could start publishing regular stories about things which cause or prevent Covid? You know, like they do with cancer:
https://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/
Eventually (as with cancer) it would reach the stage where nearly everything could cause or cure Covid, or do both at the same time…
Could Your Handbag Give You Covid?
Maximum protection.
Yeah.
So 2 injections didn’t do the trick but the third one really, really, definitely, most certainly, absolutely will. First it just a primer, second at 8 weeks in some countries and 12 weeks in others is a good immunity builder and the third at 5 months, or is it 6 months, is definitely the full course of covid vaccine and you are fully vaccinated, good to go and all will be well for you from then on. No more vaccines needed!!
I think I have got that right, but do help me out as I my brain is finding it difficult to keep up with all the shifting vaccine claims?
We started with the premise of natural immunity isn’t a thing and is just crap even if it were because humans are just not as good as medico technology, then vaccines will end the pandemic, they went on to get the vaccination to protect the vulnerable, then on to it doesn’t stop infections but the vaxxed don’t spread, then oh they do spread but the vaxxed don’t go to hospital or die – oops sorry they do.
All this has definitely convinced me I was wrong to be hesitant. I’ll pop along and get my vaccine course now like a good citizen (when hell freezes over)! Oh I so trust our government now and am so certain they have my best interests at heart!!!
And even if I had been waiting for the Valneva traditional vaccine, I can’t have that because … I don’t know why?
Ah, Valneva, yes now that is a very odd story indeed.
We can’t have them taking an actual vaccine to induce immunity. That’s not what vaccines are about!
Yes! We wrote to our MP asking him to find out why Valneva had been cancelled. We have an appointment to meet with him at the end of November!
He will be a hero if he finds out the truth of it. Keep us posted.
Got into (when will I learn not to) a spat on Hull Daily Mail online (before all my comments were deactivated as is the norm) with someone who said of course vaccine efficacy wanes over time. When I questioned if three in one year didn’t suggest a new definition of waning over time, I was told lots of vaccines require multiple doses followed by an annual booster but of course each dose still leaves behind a significant % of protection that the unvaxxed don’t have.
It is pointless dealing with such people and they need to be left to their own delusions but not expect any sympathy or retribution when it all goes wrong for them.
Covid vaccines will keep you from acquiring full immunity EVEN IF YOU ARE INFECTED AND RECOVER:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-covid-vaccines-will-keep-you/comments
But surely 4-5 boosters in you get it back again?
gatomalo v good on this too – sensational if true. Claire Craig seems to think this is possible.
Timing of this suggests it was an
Instructionsuggestion from Gates at the recent No10 dinnerGates is a coward. He hides behind the politicians who have to implement what he wants and so doesn’t have to deal with all the cr@p they have to deal with, but is probably metaphorically kicking the sh1t out of them behind the scenes.
So there was medical advice over the six month wait, which is now being overridden.
They are making it up as they go along.
For “must wait”, substitute “are permitted to delay”.
Nice social credit score you’ve built up there, citizen. It would be a shame if anything… happened to it.
Congratulations everyone – this is an intelligence and endurance test and we’re still in the game. My wife’s grim prediction throughout has been that ultimately, we’ll be crawling over the piles of skeletons to collect, with our last vestiges of strength, a gold badge for not being stupid from the satanic overlords. She’s joking of course (sort of). Where’s this going to end?!
Great news, crash your immune system quicker!
Because “protection” is strictly temporary and provided only by antibodies it would seem that the jabbed have no or little adaptive immunity protection whatsoever.
Good luck in relying on said antibodies protecting you for the rest of your life, jab after jab after jab.
A proliferation of antibodies ain’t a good thing. It’s an insult to the immune system.
I can only assume they’re trying for zero covid after all.
Good luck with that.
Natural immunity following infection seems to no longer exist, never mind the recovered (99.8%) having adaptive protection – IGA immunoglobulin, T and B cells etc.
Where the hell are all the experts who should and do know better.?
I read the online Jerusalem Post to keep track of what’s happening in Israel, as they seem to be the forerunner – the UK’s uptick in infections and vaxxed hospitalisation seems to be following the same pattern, I expect NL to follow suit as they start giving the 3rd wonder jab as of November.
In any event, there have been numerous articles in JPost singing the praises of this miraculous gazillion-fold increase in antibodies, each article more ridiculous than the last. It started out with exclamations of x-fold increases in the elderly and immonocompromised. It boasted a 43% increase in antibodies, which turned out to be 43% more people showed a higher number of antibodies from the very low number they started out with after jab 2. As time has gone by there have been articles boasting how research has shown that jab 3 increased antibodies by x% compared to jab 2, without bothering to say how it compared to jab 1. One article compared the number of antibodies raised by the various vaxxes, giving you a positive smorgasboard to choose from, depending on how many antibodies you wanted to be consuming on a given day.
I literally laugh out loud at these articles, as if somehow the more antibodies to one particular protein on one particular virus the better, even if its 1000x more than may be required for neutralisation of the virus. No discussion of whether focusing on one virus non-stop deregulates the immune system, will cause it to reat less well to other viruses, whether churning out such a large number of unnecessary antibodies might not be depleting energy that might be better used elsewhere, etc.
Exactly, all these boosters to continually create more antibodies is the equivalent of deploying a dozen armed soldiers (antibodies) to patrol the perimeter of your factory 24/7/365 when at much lower cost you could simply deploy motion sensors and an alarm system wired up to a security company (your B and T cells).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/z5OXWdO5n7wH/
Fantastic interview, if your resolve needs firming up at all.
I don’t care if they cut it own to 5 mins – i still won’t be having it.
What, the life expectancy after the 3rd jab?
They have gunk on the shelves and nobody wants it
Will be every five days soon
Yep, sunk cost – so they must use it!
I couldn’t help but laugh this morning, I saw a news report where a confirmed sheeple went for her third stab, and was mortally offended when she was offered a booster shot instead. To use her own words “I have done my research and the booster jabs don’t have as much in them as the real thing”.
So now the hysteria has reached such manic proportions that the terminally insane are arguing not about being poisoned, but about how much poison they are receiving in each stab!
He got more poison than me – I want my money back.
I would say God help us, but I don’t believe in God, so I am lost for words.
After Germany eliminated free antibody tests for the unvaccinated, the number of tests performed dropped by 2/3. That’s also one way to deal with the deadly pandemic.
But hey, all the kids are tested for free twice a week. I guess that should do it.
There was also an article how the (now sure to be late diagnosed) unvaccinated were filling up ICUs and costing the taxpayer great sums – because they tend to be younger now and refuse to die as quickly as they should after hospital admission.
the current scariant doing the rounds is infecting people regardless of how often they’ve been jabbed with the clot shot.
I caught it from a double jabbed, but then so did three 2 others and they were double jabbed.
“That’s also one way to deal with the deadly pandemic.” Who wants to deal with it? Not our government, that’s for sure. Nor many others, that I can see.
Interesting form of words…. “waiting time” for the third covid jab…..
So have those who took the first two been “waiting”, which to me describes a state of expectation, to go and have some more? I don’t think so. There might be some who are now waiting, but the waiting time never started after the second injection as far as I can see. Smacks of an Orwellian re-writing of history.
I walked up and got my first two jabs in large part because I wanted to end the lockdown. I already had Covid in Spring 2020. Now I’m being asked to get jabbed again. At 51, very healthy and athletic, do I need it? Can they guarantee there is no longterm issues with it? If course not. With having had it once (it stunk but not even top 10 of such illnesses), knowing there are new treatments, why get a new jab? to be clear, I also got my flu shot.
i think many of us 50-60 age people like me are going to skip another jab. We know the risks and what it’s like to have Covid. So, why jab? Doesn’t matter if it’s 5 months or 6.
My double jabbed parents in their 80s, (father recovered from prostate cancer), have both been invited for their flu jab and a third covid jab [not sure if it is 3rd jab or booster shot] both to be administered at the same time. I have managed to get them to delay getting them for about a week.
They are very much “with the programme” – they live on BBC news and think that we are in the middle of a dreadful pandemic. If they are determined to have both jabs the most I might be able to persuade them to do is to split them by perhaps a fortnight so that one jab is given on day 1 and the other 14 days later – but they aren’t the most assertive and wouldn’t want to “inconvenience” the GP surgery.
If I could persuade them, I would like them not to have either jab and instead rely on vitamin C, Vitamin D3, and quercetin and zinc – they eat well and exercise daily. On the other hand, if vax passports become a thing I wouldn’t like to see my elderly parents in a position where they had no access to food and medical treatment etc.
I am trying my best to help them. If anyone here can give me any advice I would really appreciate it.
Dear Milo
I’m sure your parents are glad you are concerned for their wellbeing and it’s clear you have their best interests at heart, and are considering their feelings. It is a difficult time and many people feel unsure about what is best to do.
To try and help I’d ask you a couple of questions.
1) What option do you think would make your parents happiest? You say they are known vulnerable, very much concerned about the risks from the pandemic, and already double jabbed. It sounds to me like getting the booster and the flu shot will definitely be the thing that gives them greatest comfort and allow them to relax over the winter.
2) When your father was diagnosed with prostate cancer (great to hear he is recovered), did you seek advice from anonymous strangers on a website about what the best treatment was? Or did you trust the oncologists to treat him in the best way they could? You trusted them then, and now he is recovered. Trust them again, I’m sure your father does. Ask him what his oncology team advise he should do. You do not know who anyone is on this website, you do not know their experience or their agenda.
Absolutely encourage your parents to ALSO take Vit C, Vit D, and zinc (but not mega-dosing), unless they have been specifically advised not to by their doctor. The NHS encourages everyone to take vitamin D over the winter and was even giving it out for free last winter to high risk people
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/people-at-higher-risk/free-vitamin-d-supplements-for-people-at-high-risk/
Also keep encouraging excercising, great to hear they do, strong muscle is important for all kinds of reasons and can be built even in the elderly.
Your parents have had two COVID vaccine doses already and no doubt also get yearly flu jabs. You know these did not harm them. Having them again this winter will not harm them either and might save their lives.
Ask your parents what they would like to do.
All the best.
Thankfully someone else, elsewhere on this site, has helpfully responded to my query, and empathised with the situation in which I find myself. I didn’t find your reply at all helpful and completely absent of any empathy. I would imagine that there are people like me up and down the country wondering how best to protect their elderly parents in this situation, so I am replying for them as much as anything else.
Your reply seems to fail to be in any way au fait with what is going on at the moment, and what has been happening over the last 18 months and more, not to mention the bulk of the information posted BTL on this site about the efficacy and more importantly the SAFETY of the jabs I sought advice about. Moreover, your questions did not help, for example, A) how will my parents be able to “relax” over the winter if being quadruple jabbed means they do not get to live as far as christmas? and B) considering neither of my parents can get an appointment to see their GP how on earth do you think my father would be able to access his oncology team to seek their advice? telepathy? What I would very much like to be able to ask his oncology team is the impact the covid jabs will have on his cancer status, particularly given the information which has emerged about the jabs interfering with that part of the immune system which is supposed to keep the replication of cancer cells in check.
And as for this “Your parents have had two COVID vaccine doses already and no doubt also get yearly flu jabs. You know these did not harm them. Having them again this winter will not harm them either and might save their lives.”? Well, yes, they have already been harmed by the covid jabs they have had. Which was why I raised my concerns here about a third covid jab.
If you would like to speak to a healthcare professional about your parent’s situation:
1) They will be able to speak to their GP, but have to accept this may be (initially at least) a phone consultation. Getting a GP appointment is often annoying, and you just have to keep trying.
2) Your father should have many letters from the hospital team. These should all have a department telephone number on them and may even have his consultant’s secretary’s number on them as well. Try ringing this and ask if he can have a short call with his consultant.
3) Some hospitals may have alternative arrangements for patients to contact the team. Look on the hospital department’s website to see if there is for example a single number to call.
4) Prostate cancer UK have a specialist nurse helpline you can call. It is at the top of this webpage:
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/coronavirus-covid-19-and-prostate-cancer/covid-19-vaccines/
You can find more specific information about prostate cancer and the COVID vaccines from:
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/coronavirus-covid-19-and-prostate-cancer/covid-19-vaccines/
https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/physical-side-effects/low-blood-counts/infections/covid-19-vaccines-in-people-with-cancer.html (see the Should cancer patients and survivors get the vaccine? section)
https://www.prostatescotland.org.uk/covid-19-prostate-cancer-and-some-faqs
Or can ask a question on one of the prostate cancer forums:
https://community.macmillan.org.uk/cancer_types/prostate-cancer-forum
https://prostatecancer.net/forums
https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/alltopics
https://csn.cancer.org/forum/126
I do hope you find information that is helpful.
Very sorry to hear about the situation you’re in. ‘Aunty Jen’ is a fact checker and only ever ‘corrects’ other people’s comments, belittling and insulting them in the process. I’m not sure what his/her/their game is but your reply is spot on.
Thanks for the reply crisisgarden and the support. ‘Aunty Jen’ with her latest reply, (if I found her first to be sneering and patronising you can only imagine what I thought of the second – in short not worth responding to) has confirmed what I initially suspected – at best some kind of NHS lurker, probably sniffing out vaccine/booster hesitancy according to some kind of algorithm or at worst 77th.
Either way, I very much doubt that ANY of the organisations he/she cites would even be aware of, let alone be in a position to comment in depth on, the specific issue I raised, about the reports emerging from the autopsy studies which have been done that indicate that the jabs denude the component in the immune system which is designed to prevent the proliferation of cancer cells.
“Aunty Jen” seems determined to try to represent the way in which the health system is functioning at the moment, and has done for the last 19 months plus, as some kind of ‘normal’ when every one of us on here knows that this is as far from ‘normal’ as you could get – hence why else would desperate people like myself have to be seeking advice from “strangers on the internet” as he/she refers to us.
Our institutions have failed us and I think we all have to support each other in this context. It’s extremely hard to deprogram your parents’ generation, we’ve had a similar thing with my in-laws, and eventually my wife had to tell her mum quite assertively not to have the booster (both she and her husband had had some side effects from the first doses, as did many of their peers) I really hope you are able to get through to them and at least space out the jabs; it is criminal that they haven’t even bothered to do any studies into interactions between them. Good luck!
Stable, horse, bolted, door! A bit late to ask, really, eh?
I can see into the future. Coming soon to a jabatoir near you ‘Not had your vaccines yet? Don’t worry no need to be left behind, we’re now offering all three -yes three!- plus a courtesy flu jab all on the same day in the same walk in no booking needed appointment and a £25 vegan food voucher as well’.
Looks like the ‘window of opportunity’ is getting smaller for them
I suspect it’s always been five months. The flu jabs seem to last about five months. A recent study from Qatar implied about five months. Even the stinging campaigns in Revelation’s fifth trumpet are authorised for five months: https://txti.es/fifthtrumpet
I presume that’s some inherent nature of these type of viruses, which would explain why the flu jabs and coronavirus jabs only last a matter of months. I guess they mutate at around the same rate or something.
Are you asserting the flu jab works?
I was referring to the chart below. Seems like they start at a pretty low base of “effectiveness” already, and decline to 0 “effectiveness” after 150 days. Or at least the ones referred to in the chart. Whether that means they “work” or not, I don’t know. Personally, it looks like they’re a bit useless, really, but millions of people seem to like ’em.
From the link in Curzon’s ‘Stop Press’, this is wonderfully put:
‘So high rates of vaccination can’t reduce infections, and vaccinating the oldest and sickest hasn’t done very much for overall hospitalisations and deaths either. Yet our governments press on, not because the vaccines are working, but because they’re not. We’ve been through all of this before. Last year, large swathes of the developed world banned most of public life because everyone decided that this was the way to save lives. Wuhan convinced them that lockdowns work, in much the same way as the Pfizer/BioNTech trials convinced them that vaccines work. Except lockdowns didn’t work, and vaccines don’t really work either. Corona rages on, indifferent to the strange learned fantasies of our medical bureaucrats.
‘A consequence of these failures is raging cognitive dissonance among the elite, and a substitution of the means for the end. Last year, it was locking down itself that became the highest policy goal. Governments schemed less about how to get cases down, than about how to reduce the Google-certified mobility of their citizenry by margins great enough to satisfy their court astrologers. The same is now true of the vaccines, which in their failure to do much about anything, have become the focus of nearly all Corona policy everywhere in the world. All that our governments want to do now is vaccinate more and harder. They want to vaccinate all of the unvaccinated, and when that grows tiresome they will want to triple and quadruple vaccinate the already-vaccinated. And they especially want to vaccinate that last demographic that has so far remained largely exempt from vaccination, namely children.’
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/maximum-vaccination
Are the booster stabs required, because the first two stabs didn’t kill enough people?
My goodness, I feel better and better every day for not having taken that poison! Almost every person I know that’s taken it has had complications from it and now they’re supposed to go through it again.
But I probably won’t be saying this when they try to round the unvaccinated up into
deathquarantine camps. Still, it looks like there will be plenty of ‘formerly vaccinated’ people in there with me!