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by Michael Curzon
20 October 2021 11:53 PM

  • “We risk being frightened back into lockdown” – England has quietly turned into one of the more liberal Covid countries. It would be a crying shame to lose it, writes Madeline Grant in the Telegraph.
  • “Get booster jab now to avoid return of Christmas restrictions, warns Sajid Javid” – Household mixing could be banned as the Health Secretary urges public to “play their part” if they want to spend festive season with loved ones
  • “Fact-check: Is the NHS at risk of being overwhelmed by Covid?” – “Rather than being inundated, there are more empty beds in the NHS then there are patients with Covid,” writes ‘Steerpike’ in the Spectator.
  • “Shouldn’t the NHS be protecting us?” – We cannot keep submitting to new restrictions to save our failing healthcare system, writes Rob Lyons in Spiked.
  • “How concerning is the new Covid variant?” – Delta’s successor is here – but is it more dangerous, asks Ross Clark in the Spectator.
  • “Lockdown zealots want a return of Covid curbs to ‘protect the NHS’… from the consequences of the previous lockdowns” – Calls for the Government to implement its ‘Plan B’ strategy are being made on grounds of preventing the NHS being swamped by a backlog caused by previous lockdowns. But this would create a never-ending cycle of restrictions, writes Neil Clark in RT.
  • “NHS whilstle blower” – Laurence Fox speaks to an NHS whistle-blower, who despite working throughout the lockdown, caring in the community, now faces the sack simply because she doesn’t wish to get the vaccine.
  • “Pandemic-hit NHS wastes over £560 million yearly on ‘unnecessary’ and addictive pills with severe withdrawal symptoms – study” – Despite the Covid pandemic, the NHS is reportedly wasting as much as £568 million yearly on habit-forming drugs like painkillers and sleeping pills that the majority of patients do not need, leading to dangerous addictions, reports RT.
  • “After COP26 the Government won’t hesitate to lock the country down again” – With Covid cases rising and vaccinations waning, panicked ministers will look to extreme counter-measures once again, writes Ross Clark in the Telegraph.
  • “The West’s Energy Masochism” – Putin takes advantage of democratic Europe’s self-defeating climate policies, writes the Wall Street Journal’s editorial board.
  • “We need a referendum on net zero to save Britain from the green blob” – As with membership of the E.U., the political elite is imposing a revolution on the public without consent, writes Allister Heath in the Telegraph.
  • “How environmentalism turned politics on its head” – Boris Johnson is proudly promising to impoverish us all – and he wants the world to follow him, writes Fraser Myers in Spiked.
  • “Whitehall considers meat tax to slash carbon emissions” – Consumers should be hit with higher prices on meat to help the environment, says research paper drawn up for the Government.
  • “The Triumph and Terror of Wang Huning” – One man’s thought has become pivotal in China’s new political and cultural crackdowns. That man is not Xi Jinping, writes N. S. Lyons in Palladium.
  • “Social media executives will be prosecuted for hatred and abuse online, says Boris Johnson” – Boris Johnson has pledged to introduce criminal sanctions for social media bosses who allow “foul content” to be posted on their platforms, reports the Times.
  • “Why America’s social justice narratives always crash and burn” – “Has any movement ever crashed and burned more quickly than the social justice revolution,” asks Andrew Sullivan in the Spectator.
  • “Selfish university lecturers are putting their own needs first with their threat to strike” – One of our most urgent priorities as a nation is to get education back to normal before more children are damaged, writes Allison Pearson in the Telegraph.
  • “Toby explains why people are resisting booster jabs” – Toby tells talkRADIO “vaccine scepticism is increasing” and asks: “Are we going to be trapped in this vaccine hamster wheel in perpetuity?”

"Vaccine scepticism is increasing. Are we going to be trapped in this vaccine hamster wheel in perpetuity?"

Free speech campaigner Toby Young explains why people are resisting booster jabs.@TVKev | @toadmeister pic.twitter.com/hVsTQQWcDh

— TalkTV (@TalkTV) October 20, 2021
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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Savage Jabbit can FO if he thinks he will dictate how I spend my Christmas.

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Encierro
Encierro
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

He does not work in the foreign office 😉

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I thought as soon as I read that “Yeah right! Which muppets are gonna fall for that BS second time around?” hopefully there’ll be zero compliance with such blatant nonsense.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Sadly, some members of my extended family will hang on every word and ‘do the right thing’.
Personally I think they are idiots and nothing will stop me seeing my Mum and sons this year.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Good for you. A great shame about the others and I’ll bet you feel immense frustration. I think so many people have gotten used to being so disempowered that it’s become their “new normal”. It sucks but they’re the only ones that can change that.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

They have fallen for it time and time again. Why stop now?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

There are, unfortunately, a very high proportion of muppets in this country (and most other countries). As soon as Johnson tells them to hide behind the sofa for most of the week, and to wear a face nappy and jump into the road when passing everyone on their occasional outings to the Big Scary World, loads of them will rush to do so – and to get their ‘booster’ spiking, of course…

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Evil creature – cannot bear to listen to him.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

This is a government of domestic abusers.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago

Toby still pushing the unsustainable line that the “vaccines” may reduce the severity of Covid illness and so save lives. Come on now, even the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology and double Moderna jabbed Dr Robert Malone no longer believes that baseless canard.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Quite, the absolute risk reduction, which is someone’s personal chance of severe illness and death is 0.8% from Pfizer. This is because the chances of severe illness and death are so infinitesimally small to start with.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Absolute risk reduction is meaningless unless you specify, at a minimum, the timescale (clearly your risk of being infected tomorrow is much less than your risk of being infected some time in the next year) and the prevalence (the Pfizer trial was done at a time when prevalence was very low – the risk is very different when prevalence is high).

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

You simply don’t get it… or perhaps you’re a 77th shill M-to-F? These COVID non-vaccines are not 100% immunizing, time to learn about SARS Cov 2 evolutionary dynamics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErVD_H1BZ0

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

I am sorry – I don’t get the relevance of your reply to my comment. Of course, I know that the Covid vaccines (or non-vaccines if you prefer) are not 100% immunising. My comment simply pointed out the limitations of ARR as a measurement – these limitations are incontrovertibly true – they follow from the maths of the definition – and apply to all vaccines and other medical interventions.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

A correction – the limitations on ARR apply to all prophylactics including vaccines but not to all medical interventions. In the case of a treatment for a condition the absolute risk is well defined so the ARR is well defined. This may the source of the confusion.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“Absolute risk reduction is meaningless unless you specify, at a minimum, the timescale …”

The chant of the Jab Religion.

You can apply this false argument also to all calculations of effectiveness – including relative risk.

All such should stem from proper sampling and structured comparison groups. Admittedly such care has been blown out of the water in the case of the jabs – but that applies across the board.

However – early data from Israel (at a time when relatively good experimental procedure was happening) and recent analysis of PHE figures (which the Jabberwocks are happy to use if going in the right direction) show an ARR of ~1%. NO sampling timescale would alter that non-event significantly.

In fact, the recent calculation (on hospitalization) shows something of a decrease of ARR under mass jabbing to <1%. You can take that as a wide variation in incidence over a long time period.

That straw is sinking fast – like every one grasped to keep the Jabberwocks afloat.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The chant of the Jab Religion.

This is nothing particularly to do with Covid or even vaccinations. It applies to all medical interventions and follows from the definition of ARR.

You can apply this false argument also to all calculations of effectiveness – including relative risk.

No you can’t. You have missed the point of the difference between ARR and RRR. The RRR is a property of the vaccine, there is no reason to suppose it will change with timescale or prevalence. To use the example of timescale. If the RRR is 50% then the risk of contracting the condition is reduced by 50% whether it be the small risk of getting it tomorrow or the 30 times greater risk of getting sometime in the coming month, or the 365 times greater risk of getting it sometime in the coming year.

early data from Israel (at a time when relatively good experimental procedure was happening) and recent analysis of PHE figures (which the Jabberwocks are happy to use if going in the right direction) show an ARR of ~1%

Over what timescale?

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I find it so hard to understand how people can doubt the significance of timescale and prevalence to ARR that I am going to illustrate it with examples from the UK. I am assuming

  • The reported cases really are cases.
  • Vaccine efficacy is 50%.

Both of these are disputed but it make no difference to the point of my examples.

First timescale:

The highest number of cases in a single day so far is the 29th Dec 20: 81,479 which is about 0.1% of the population. So the absolute risk of a random member of the population getting Covid that day was 0.1%. If we assume the vaccines were 50% effective then they would have reduced that risk to 0.005% and the ARR is a measly 0.005%. However, during the five months 1/10/20 to 28/2/21 3,679,594 people got Covid. So the absolute risk of infection to a random member of the population for that period was about 5% and the ARR was 2.5%. – 45 times greater.

Second prevalence:

Compare the ARR for 1/10/20 to 28/2/21, a period of high prevalence, with the five months 1/3/20 to 31/7/20, a period of low prevalence. In the latter period there were a total of 304,225 cases (I am ignoring the lower level of testing at that time). So the absolute risk was 0.4%. If the vaccine had been available it would have reduced that risk to 0.2% – so the ARR would have been 0.2%. The ARR in the high prevalence was 12 times greater.

I hope this makes it clear why the ARR is meaningless without giving timescale and prevalence.

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Aunty Jen
Aunty Jen
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

In your first example (timescale) should the 50% vaccine ARR be 0.05% not 0.005%?

(If so, probably still time to edit the post, and if not then I’m a bit confused, but thanks for the illustration either way as the overall point is clear)

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Aunty Jen

Thanks – you are right – but too late to edit the post. For one day the ARR is 0.05% (it is still one fiftieth of the ARR for the 5 months  1/10/20 to 28/2/21.)

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I don’t give a flying fuck about ARR or RRR, my body, my choice.

And my body ain’t getting locked down, jabbed, suffocated, tracked & traced or otherwise terrified into submission again.

I have one obligation to society, if I have symptoms of disease I’ll stay home & isolate for as long as those symptoms persist.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Aunty Jen

No, you can’t edit a post once someone has replied. Or after 14 mins, whichever comes first.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Ah yes, absolute ris reduction over what period of time?

For example, a 10% risk reduction on a given time of say 1 hour in a supermarket would, over a few weeks of going to a supermarket (or equivalent) for several hours a week, become a negligible difference – at best a slight delaying of the inevitable. And then there’s confounding factors of course. Lies, damn lies and statistics!

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I am sorry – I don’t understand this at all. Why would it become a negligible difference? Can you expand on the example a bit?

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Relative Risk of Reduction is likewise meaningless using that logic! Funny how the narrative pushers keep banging on about 95%, isn’t it?

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Try to work out similar examples based on RRR. You will find you can’t because RRR is independent of timescale and prevalence.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Let’s not go to hard in on Mr. Young. None of us know his private view of this lockstep farrago, the fact that he is buddies with James Delingpole speaks volumes to me.

He’s got an ABTL profile and cancel culture is now part of our media landscape… so he has to tread a fine line of ‘resistance’… if he’s pro these non-100%-immunizing gene therapies that’s his prerogative.

I for one am very grateful to him that he started DS as a website to air counterpoint views that remain unmoderated… a truly democratic stance.

For that he gets my fullest admiration.

Thanks Toby, keep up the stellar work.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Agree 100%.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

I agree. I think Toby and team have done a truly marvellous job. So what if I don’t always agree, there is always plenty of food for thought on here, to question. Toby always gets a grilling from James on their podcast, and although I’m firmly in James’ camp, Toby stands his ground with good grace. I’m not going to lie, sometimes I really hope that it is Toby that is right, that this is just incompetence of the highest order that’s got us to this point but I strongly fear that is not the case!

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

For me, his position is absolutely clear – he is in favour if they are safe and effective – quite a big caveat and ostensibly a reasonable position. Plus he will allow free discussion on the matter, unlike some platforms.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Can you believe Javid, threatening yes threatening us with no christmas if we dont get jabbed!!. Doesnt matter what the jabs do or dont do, this is an absolute disgrace.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I’m not sure he’s that bothered about Christmas to be fair.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

I ain’t bothered about bloody Christmas, I just want our lives back.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

In the religious context I imagine he is as his wife is a devout Christian and his kids have been brought up Christian.
That of course will have no bearing on his telling others what they can/can’t do.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

And of course no bearing on his part in the murderous agenda.

As I am sure most on here are aware the Pope is wholly on board with the Reset.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

For less concrete reason last year, something to do with rising cases I expect, they reduced Xmas family get togethers from 4-5(?) days to 24 hours which for anyone needing to travel more than a hundred miles (each way) or so effectively cancelled it.

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Encierro
Encierro
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

How the Grinch Stole Christmas!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

Didn’t steal mine, I did my usual thing as I expect many other LS/DS readers did.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Damn right! Which is what everybody with a functioning brain should do. What they gonna do…knock on every single household and arrest people for celebrating Xmas like normal people since time immemorial? Criminalize the act of gathering together on a special occasion? Jeez..

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

There are not enough Plods to enforce this. On most shifts after two or three call-outs (jobs) that’s manpower exhausted.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Exactly. They’ll be relying on the power of the threat alone. Whatever punishment they dream up if you’re caught red-handed celebrating Xmas with you loved ones is just all part of the manipulation and social conditioning. Practically speaking they can do fuck all, and that’s what the hypnotized need to wrap their heads around.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I seem to remember an incident with people singing carols in the garden last year.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

But no sane person is gonna pay a blind bit of notice are they? Or if they do they’re epic mugs who deserve a miserable Xmas. Empty threats from that prick, borne of desperation. People need to stop being such bloody push overs. Perfect fodder for bullies!

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Stevey
Stevey
3 years ago

I didn’t obey the restrictions last Christmas, I won’t obey them this Christmas.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Stevey

A young woman told me how last year she was questioned about the essential nature of her train journey soon after Christmas.
She replied that as she didn’t drive and all trains were cancelled Xmas Eve to Boxing Day she had to spend four night with her parents for Xmas (‘illegally’). The 24 hour limit was imposed when she was already on her way and she was on the first train back to her key worker job.

No action was taken against her but what a Kafkaesque rigmorol.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

Toby Young is right to say the injections were oversold. He’s right to say they reduce the probability of getting seriously ill and dying, but this is only by around 0.8% for a personal absolute risk. The hamster wheel trap he talks about was of course planned from the very start, as there are vast amounts of money and power involved.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“Pandemic-hit NHS wastes over £560 million yearly on ‘unnecessary’ and addictive pills with severe withdrawal symptoms – study.. safer options not fully explored… 3 in 4 prescriptions totally unnecessary in some cases” (RT)

I have an old newspaper headline which reads: “Revealed: Big Pharma’s links to NHS policy”. Guess the newspaper and the date!

It makes some key points which I think help to explain the current mess: “NHS England commissioned a group called the Specialised Healthcare Alliance (SHCA) to consult with patients’ groups, charities [note that some charities including Cancer Research UK are owned by pharmaceutical companies] and health organisations and produce a report feeding into its future five-year strategy for commissioning £12bn of services”, and notes that the SHCA is entirely funded by commercial members, and that interestingly its director, John Murray, is also senior partner at lobbying company JMC Partners, whose clients include “drugs firms such as Novatis, Astro Zenica, Sanofi and Pfizer”. (my italics) and also “represents medical device manufacturers and biotech companies”.

The article notes further that the website of JMC partners “makes bold claims about how it has been able to influence policy… it represented a medical device manufacturer who was worried about a planned cut in the amount the NHS paid for a treatment… JMC boasted that it organised a lobbying campaign targeting MPs and ministers as well as mobilising doctors to support its cause… the market for the technology was saved”. The report further notes that John Murray clinical director of specialised services at NHS England James Palmer had “had many meetings on a wide range of organisations and interests” with clinical director of specialised services at NHS England James Palmer.

Worryingly, the article says of NHS England that, unlike other government departments, it “does not register its meetings with lobbyists. It also does not routinely publicly disclose all potential conflicts of interests of those who do work for it”. The suggestion of the SHCA report mentioned above is that NHS England should commit to “disinvest in interventions that have lower impact for patients in favour of new services or innovations”. The article notes that this could benefit big pharma, “keen to sell the latest equipment and treatments… even if… the benefits might be marginal”. The “formidable [lobbying] and unrivalled access to policy makers” is noted in the article by the Alliance for Lobbying Transparency.

The newspapers’ Whitehall editor comments: “Every time [NICE] turns down a drug its manufacturers fight a proxy battle using patients’ groups (which they often fund) and doctors… to campaign for the ruling to be reversed. Emotive stories soon appear in the press about thousands of women being condemned to death because of the failure of Nice to approve this, that or the other drug. Sound familiar? “The lobbying industry’s greatest success [the creation of the Cancer Drugs Fund] allows drugs to escape Nice’s scrutiny – but still be prescribed on the NHS”. (Nice is supposed to hold drugs companies to account).

John Murray claims there is no problem. All the same, I want to know h9ow many times someone from the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service (for example) has met with UK politicians compared to Mr Murray, and if UK politicians have even read any single thing that the OMNS has written or have any interest (pun intended) in doing so.

I suggest furthermore that, knowing what we know, if they try and suppress legitimate discussion about politicians and the pharmaceutical industry – and not least in relation to experimental medication – that Facebook and the muppets at The Times have blood on their hands. We are not anti-vaxxers, we just deplore coercion to have experimental “vaccines” when this is the type of thing that is going on, and too many media organisations are failing to dig and ask the right questions. I am just one person with some old papers and an interest in getting to the bottom of things. I suggest that professional journalists at national newspapers such as those muppets at The Times should spend more time trying to give us answers to these questions, and less time slagging off people with genuine concerns about the coercion on people to have experimental “vaccines” – unless of course they are also in on this scam. Now which newspaper, I wonder, will run a headline such as “Revealed: Main Stream Media’s links to NHS policy”?

Times muppets.

Incidentally, the newspaper the article referred to was from was The Independent, 11 February, 2014. We’ve known about this corruption for years – why are so few questions being asked now by some?

Here is a link to the article.

Revealed: Big Pharma’s hidden links to NHS policy, with senior MPs saying medical industry uses ‘wealth to influence government’ | The Independent | The Independent

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

N.B. post above should read ‘The report further notes that John Murray “had many meetings on a wide range of organisations and interests” with clinical director of specialised services at NHS England James Palmer’, not ‘The report further notes that John Murray clinical director of specialised services at NHS England James Palmer had “had many meetings on a wide range of organisations and interests” with clinical director of specialised services at NHS England James Palmer’ Darned 14 minute editing cutoff! (Unless the site editors want to help me out!)
There should also be speech marks before “sound familiar?”.

I don’t know if “Astro Zenica changed their name or if that is just a typo by the Independent!

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I should also have provided this link to the comment piece which was printed next to the article (in a shorter form) in the print version of the Independent.

Big Pharma lobbyists exploit patients and doctors | The Independent | The Independent

Ironically, Oliver Wright, who wrote this piece, now works for The Times, though apparently not writing articles about the pharmaceutical industry (I wonder why)! Perhaps someone should remind the Times muppet who slagged off “anti-vaxxers” commenting btl on this site about that article by his colleague…

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The phrase ‘had many meetings on a wide range of organisations and interests’ apart from being poor English is about as opaque and meaningless as the PMs opening response during PMQs.

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago

Surely this is open to challenge as ‘coercion?’

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

The Triumph And Terror Of Wang Huning (Roundup).
Well worth reading in full, 20-30 mins.

Why American culture based on nihilistic individualism means they are f*cked, how China is going the same way and what Wang Huning is doing about it from breaking the power of Chinese tech giants to getting sissymen off the internet.

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Encierro
Encierro
3 years ago

We need a referendum on net zero to save Britain from the green blob” – As with membership of the E.U., the political elite is imposing a revolution on the public without consent, writes Allister Heath in the Telegraph.

The last one was such a huge success lets go for it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

They will never let us have another referendum on anything after we gave them the wrong result last time.

They should have taken notice when John Prescott also get the wrong answer from Yorkshire* when they got a local referendum about becoming an EU Region which killed that crap idea off nationally.

*might have been the North East.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It was the North East.

The referendum stunt was pulled in Greater Manchester on the question of charging motorists to enter the city centre as per London – congestion charging.

The result was a big Thumping NO.

Unless they can fix the result referendums will not be tried again.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Experiment

what is this for?
No idea

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hiding spoilers?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I dare ya to click & find out.

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Stephensceptic
Stephensceptic
3 years ago

I am double vaccinated but will not have a booster. Enough is enough.

The absolute risk reductions associated with the “jabs” are so low that only a tiny amount of data error or in built bias could flip the results anyway.

The long term side effects of putting such toxins into the body are not understood either, although I think the human body by and large deals with them and ejects them.

Increasingly, I question anyway the whole underlying logic of modern medicine. The book “Virus Mania” is a great read and really makes one question the central role that doctrine gives to viruses in causing illness.

None of it is as “proven” as “scientists” want to think it is. Most of it rests on a deck of cards that has been internalized as “fact”.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephensceptic

Likewise double jabbed, NHS Vaccine Central and my GP Surgery are contradicting each other over boosts, NHS pointing to my GP who say ‘no, we are only commissioned to boost over 75s’, not that I’m bothered.

If they have a registered address perhaps I could write to them
Dear NHS.
Please tell me where to get a booster vaccine.
Yours Faithfully
Karenovirus.

Last edited 3 years ago by karenovirus
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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Don’t. They might tell you.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephensceptic

As Dr Robert Malone says, “more is not better in the vaccine world”. Loading up on vaccines can seriously degrade the natural immune system. This is a known effect, although I have forgotten the term for it.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Spot on Brett…

This my DS friends is the ‘elephant in the room’ BIG question.

Did Gates/Fauci/Dazsak/GAVI/WHO/WEF et al know that these COVID injections are the ADE producing kind for those who take them, or are they in fact the leaky-non-100% immunizing kind to kill off the non-compliant?

Enquiring minds require and answer PDQ. From 2015 but highly relevant…

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

Be seeing you….

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

I think that many of the non-compliant would, like me, stock up on treatments.

China Dan is creating an apartheid system in Victoriastan.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Three words Brett: Ivermectin – Quercetin – Vitamin D3

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coppelledstreets
coppelledstreets
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephensceptic

By your post i’m not sure how you got from 2 jabs to enough.

We all mostly knew at the start of the jabs had no historic data to provide anyone protection.

You have just put toxins into your body then questioned the results ?

I wish you luck.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Last year: lockdowns didn’t work. Solutions: more lockdowns.
This year: quacksines don’t work. Solution: more quacksines AND more lockdowns?
This isn’t even fascism. It’s cretinism.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And more masks that say on the box ‘not fit for purpose’.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

“Are we going to be trapped in this vaccine hamster wheel in perpetuity?”

Of course. That was predicted at the start. Another “conspiracy theory” that turns out to have been spot on.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Quite. So much for the ‘all we’ve got to do is sit at home and watch Netflix for a couple of weeks’.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago

I just wish idiot people would stop running for Covid tests. And if you’ve got a kid at high school, do not comply, same with masks. We all know it’s a “casedemic”, as will be the situation every damn autumn/winter due to all the respiratory viruses that circulate now. This will never end until people stop being gullible mugs and ditch the tests. It’s exactly the same in most countries and this just enables the governments to continue with their human rights abuses. They never acknowledge the raft of data which contradicts their strategy. It’s the only way to stop the BS but I can’t foresee it happening any time soon. Here in the Netherlands we have the VaxPass and the unjabbed are barred from socializing but cases are rising and they tell us hospitalized Covid patients are mostly unvaccinated! There’s no way of checking this and refuting the data due to the dodgy reporting and manipulation going on which is designed to support the narrative. We have 82% of the population fully vaxxed, unjabbed unable to socialize so how they still manage to scapegoat us at this late stage is just incredible really.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

You just can’t help some idiots.

A business we were supposed to be viewing next week (to buy) is now closed and visit canceled because the family who run it are testing weekly. One person tested positive this week. They had to shut completely and hourly paid staff won’t be getting paid as furlough ended. Another week without income in an already struggling sector. It also damages ongoing reputation of the business, something which will be reflected in it’s price at sale.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

It’s a mug’s game, it really is. Just the fact so many people can be so thick and shoot themselves in the foot like that as a result is just off the charts stupidity! They’ll be stuck in the vicious cycle forever and it’ll serve them right.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

“the unjabbed are barred from socializing but cases are rising”

Indeed. What’s that definition of ‘insanity’?

What seems to be happening now (from observation) is that, as we enter the infection season, people – and particularly children, who have suffered unnatural isolation – are picking up a range of the circulating bugs.

Some of these may be SARS infections, but mostly not very serious – at worst, parallel to a dose of moderate ‘flu. Whether this has anything to do with jab moderation is a moot point, but I would guess its more to do with the natural evolution of the virus. What is now well-established is that there is no useful immunity from mass jabbing, and no drop in transmission. Worse – the measures taken have (a) increased susceptibility (b) delayed general herd immunity and (worse) (c) probably extended the development of mutations.

Couple that genuine increase in infection with testing at every juncture and the myth of the deadliness of ‘Covid’ (which the vast majority don’t have), and you have – again – the perfect panic storm. Again.

Watch your backs for Christmas.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I know three people that volunteered to have regular testing! Jeez, even when you S P E L L it out to them what this actually does, with regards to “cases” they STILL look at you dumbly and say “it’s for other people, I do it” or even “it’s for the Greater good!” or “i just want to know when I get it” GIVE ME STRENGTH! One even does it for payment! I’m beginning to not give to give two tiny ducks about some people. If they refuse to think their actions through, and realise the consequences, I can’t waste anymore energy with them. They’re lost to me now.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I’d also be distancing myself from these people as they’re contributing to keeping this shit show going. Really is no excuse for such stupidity and denialism at this stage. And I’ll bet they’ve had the jab have they?? If so then they get bonus points for cretinism!

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago

It appears that the vaccines effectiveness in reducing the severity of Covid has been exaggerated. Early studies of breakthrough infections had not checked whether or not the vaccinated person had already had Covid before getting the vaccine. A more recent large DOD (US) study does:

“one variable that explained substantial resistance to serious negative health impacts from breakthrough infections was natural immunity resulting from prior COVID infection.”

https://brownstone.org/articles/colin-powells-breakthrough-infection-was-hardly-unusual/

Last edited 3 years ago by Brett_McS
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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

I have a plan Sajid Javid, it’s called Plan X. It’s where I eXit all this lunacy and eXist in a normal human eXistence. Free of government coercion, blackmail and control.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Plan A = Atrocious, Plan B = Bullshit, Plan C = Catastrophic, Plan D = Disastrous, Plan E = Erroneous, Plan F = Fucked, Plan G = Give up and return to the old normal… the only plan that makes true sense…

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John
John
3 years ago

Just had a text message from my GP surgery it reads “Due to positive COVID cases, our capacity for appointments will now be reduced this week. Please be aware of this when calling this week for an appointment. We thank you for your patience and understanding” 
It must be reception staff rather than clinicians.
Doesn’t this demonstrate that masks, distancing and hand sanitisation don’t work? 

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  John

It also demonstrates that your medial centre is staffed by lazy bums.

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

One might also suppose that the staff, both admin and clinical, are all double-inoculated to the eyeballs which, as we know, makes them immune to catching or spreading this. Or perhaps not.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Within my GP Surgery the medical staff are fairly nonchalant about masks, wearing the flimsy pale blue ones if at all. It is the Reception staff that wear more elaborate ones but perhaps that is more for fashion onuppersonship than efficacy.

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Of course the fashion statement type consist of three layers sewn together on a home sewing machine using a needle that makes holes several magnitudes larger than the thing they’re meant to stop.

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago

Ha ha ha ha, Sajid javid thinks he is going to have the power to tell people who they can spend Christmas with does he? Ha ha ha ha!

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago

This seems as good a place as any to draw attention to the article “Nailed It” from Oct 6th. This purported to show how well Anthony Brookes’ model predicted cases in seven countries. Two weeks’ later it doesn’t look so impressive. I have put the details as new comments on that article.

The fact is – no one, from Ferguson to Brookes, has had much success predicting how this virus will pan out. All we can really say is that cases go up and eventually they go down again – but how high the peak is and how long it will last seems to be unpredictable.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

What is fairly predictable is that government interventions will be futile, damaging and dishonest, and that this is not a deadly pandemic or emergency that requires unprecedented, experimental intervention.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

A major problem is the confusion factor. The mythology has so distorted the situation that, now we are into the general infection season, the incidence of respiratory infection will rise, will take on much more significance, with the result that most of the population won’t know whether its shit, shave or breakfast time.

Result : a population very susceptible to the next round of stupid, self-defeating ideas.

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Dylan2021
Dylan2021
3 years ago

The particular virus which produces this mRNA and resultant protein is the Deep State Hyper-Parasite. Just as the parasitoid wasps inject viral mRNAs that compel the caterpillar to express proteins that modify the host’s defences, physiology and behaviour, now the Pharmaceutical parasitoids are injecting actual viral mRNAs that compel unwitting dupes to express proteins that modify the host’s defences, physiology and behaviour.

The first line immune system is effectively shut down and antibodies are produced that render the body susceptible to later iterations of the virus, itself engineered as a viral vector vaccine, according to Luc Montagnier. The true severity of the ADE response is only now becoming clear as we head into a truly dark winter.

https://bakerstreetrising.home.blog/2021/10/19/covax-through-the-looking-glass-part-9/

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago

If I’d done what I was told last Christmas, like a good sheep, I wouldn’t have spent the last Christmas with my beloved Dad, who passed away just recently. I’d have never forgiven myself for being so weak and pathetic. I had all my family with me then and it was joyous, despite being banned OUTRIGHT from having anyone visiting. People you MUST do what is right for you, not what some tw@ts in NO position to dictate, tell you!

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I’m sorry to hear about your dad. Good on you for retaining your common sense when all around had lost theirs’ and sticking to your principles. People should just carry on as normal and anyone who tries to get in the way of that can take a running jump!

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

People are resisting booster jabs because the government themselves are saying jabs don’t work.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

And it’s clear that the threatened vaccine passports will require constant boosters to remain valid.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

 “Are we going to be trapped in this vaccine hamster wheel in perpetuity?”

Yes, for as long as we keep bending over and taking it.

Last edited 3 years ago by mishmash
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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

“We need a referendum on net zero to save Britain from the green blob”

Be careful what you wish for.

If you must have a referendum, at least wait until consequences are clear!

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