Half of Brits believe there will be further lockdowns and some officials are urging the Government to implement ‘Plan B’ winter measures now. But such talk is, according to the Business Secretary, “completely unhelpful”. Not only that – he says he would “rule out” the idea the country is facing another lockdown. Sky News has the story.
NHS Confederation Chief Executive Matthew Taylor has urged the Government to bring back certain measures, including mandatory face coverings in public places, telling Sky News: “The overwhelming evidence is that we do need to act.” …
But asked by Kay Burley on Sky News whether the U.K. could be facing another lockdown, [Kwasi] Kwarteng said: “I would rule that out.”
Speaking on Wednesday morning, the Business Secretary added: “I think the conversation about restrictions on travel, restrictions on more lockdowns is completely unhelpful.”
Asked whether more travel restrictions could be brought back in, he told Burley: “No, I don’t think so.”
Challenged on the fact that the Government said similar last year before further measures were introduced, the business secretary said: “This time last year we didn’t have the vaccine.”
“We don’t want to go back into lockdown and further restrictions,” Mr. Kwarteng later clarified.
Perhaps this last remark – that the Government doesn’t want to bring in another lockdown – is closer to the point.
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“We don’t want to go back into lockdown and further restrictions,”
Plenty of wiggle room there.
I’ll just translate:
“We absolutely will be having a lockdown and will be increasing restrictions”
There, that’s better now.
What more do you need to witness folks? A six month extension of the Coronavirus Act passes without any parliamentary vote.
• Just 90 minutes for debate
• The majority of the Westminster MPs didn’t bother turn up
• Then Deputy Speaker announces… “it’s not the mood of the House to vote on the issue”.
So the thin veil of British democracy falls away at last. It’s BITCHSLAP reality WAKE-UP time my fellow sceptics
Italia has descended into what amounts to be a civil war betwixt the tiny hold-out minority group of NO-VAX versus the majority of vaxxoids who fell into line tout suite.
What the WEF backed globalists are doing is successfully destroying the Italian economy, making the proletariat bio-secuirty controlled serfs via the implanting technocratic system and there is absolutely no coverage on the international MSM re what’s playing out over there at all?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/things-are-getting-messy-draghis-italy
Seen any of what’s happening down in Trieste on the BBC news? PMSL
Its war folks and has been for 18months or so. If Italia falls [likely] the rest of the EU will quickly fall into line ASAP. If so you can bet puppet leader BoJo will unleash the mandatory vaxx passport here in the UK too come December.
If you think you’ll instigate some personal pushback then… well it’s too late my dears, simply a rubber-stamped fait accompli
We need a hacker swarm to bring this whole NHS track-n-trace shit show control grid down, and we need it now… not in two months’ time.
It’s time to play dirty folks, the only way Globocap will sit-up-and-take-note is to reflect the RESET evil they are inflicting on us back at them – with interest.
Forget science tit-for-tat graph flips… it’s a distraction
https://www.twitch.tv/gigaohmbiological/videos
If Italia loses this key battle – then it will be OUR turn next come Dec – act accordingly NOW or forever rue the day.
To be honest, I think it’s already too late, the time to act was the end of the 2nd week to flatten the curve, the nation surrendered, and now we are all prisoners of the state, the people are worn down & totally demoralized.
Vax passports are just the beginning, first it’ll be nightclubs, then pubs & cafés with slow mission creep to all aspects of life, UBI will replace furlough, no vaccine, no money for food. You won’t be able to buy food without a vaccine certificate of compliance anyway, Johnson is clearly just a shill for the corporate elite, his wife, his nanny to stop him straying off narrative!
There won’t be lockdowns as such, there will be prohibitions on public gathering, the vax passports will allow police to identify dissenters & break up any protest, this has clearly been planned out very meticulously. It’s controlled demolition of our communities, culture, country, however the one thing these technocrats don’t want is anarchy!
We are entering a very dark period in human history & before people dismiss it as foil hat wearing conspiracy THEORY, it’s happened numerous times in our history, turns out we haven’t progressed very much at all, democracy was just an illusion, we are livestock of the psychopathic “elite”. SLAVES!
They keep us divided & distracted with identity politics & fear of terrorism, giving them the excuse for more & more surveillance legislation & removal of basic rights, privacy & freedoms. They are using identity politics to erode our cultural values, attacking the very core of our society ‘family’ so we become dependent on the state (technocrats) for everything!
Correct, and you are right to focus on food. Hungry people obey whoever is giving them food. They don’t rebel, they don’t conspire, they beg for food, and if you give them food, they do what you say.
I think you are right in that the point of no return was reached and passed. 90% of people are happy with all this shit. basically anyone who watches TV news is a pod-person and is lost to us
Sounds like you’ve accepted defeat, people did without a lot of things during the war but never went there. I dont think, looking at social media, that we are anywhere near that point
Social media is interactive TV.
1) @Frank – an article recommendation for you: Robert Dirks, “Social responses during severe food shortages and famine,” Current Anthropology 21 (1) (February 1980).
What has happened during food shortages and famine before is this:
Looking at many examples, Dirks writes of an “alarm reaction” followed by “resistance” followed by “exhaustion”.
The family also tends to break down, as people stop caring so much for the elderly and even children.
Famine is extremely ugly.
2) One of the achievements of the 2020-21 lockdowns, coupled with smartphone addiction and with whatever bugs are going around, is that many have already become habituated to fatigue.
There is little “oomph” left in most of the British population. This is true everywhere but Britain stands out for its social deference, its segregation by caste, and the way it’s run like the Empire, with many two-bit petty officials thinking that whilst THEY are with the proper people, doing what they’re told as everyone should, the heathens are animalistic and have got it coming to them.
Banning family visits and attendance at bedsides and at funerals has sadly had a lot of effect on people. Reopening nightclubs hasn’t undone this.
As for children, it’s interesting that there’s been so much propaganda promoting schools as places where hungry children should be fed, rather than calls for money (or food itself) to be given to their parents. A huge and powerful message is being communicated between the lines in that propaganda. Watch this space.
3) For many, the only item on the menu won’t be obedience to lots of orders; it will be a cull.
4) Expect certain areas to be zoned off… There were hints of this earlier this year, as the gutter press foamed at the mouth about a number of “iconic” urban districts (iconic in the “minds” of their readers, the vast majority of whom have probably never visited any of these areas).
Thanks for this post, @Galene. Some info on Italian prime minister Mario Draghi’s background:
Vaccine refusers in Italy who want to stay in their jobs have to get green passes requiring them to pay for Covid tests every two days. Draghi knows that this measure will have immediate ramifications both on standards of living and on goods supply chains. Trieste is the largest port in Italy by tonnage. Good to hear that dockers and other workers are responding with strikes and other physical actions.
Yes, this is how it works, I’m afraid. See link.
Revealed: Big Pharma’s hidden links to NHS policy, with senior MPs saying medical industry uses ‘wealth to influence government’ | The Independent | The Independent
And
Big Pharma lobbyists exploit patients and doctors | The Independent | The Independent
But we will call it by a different name and give no free magic money this time. Peasants.
Sounds an awful lot like “We have no plans of implementing a vaccine passports” to me…
Exactly.
My thoughts exactly.
‘We don’t want to go back into lockdown‘ is not the same as for example ‘We will not go back into lockdown’.
All this double-talk is like having to constantly deal with a government of slippery narcissistic sociopaths – you have to carefully examine every single word they say – because every statement, every sentence, every word, every syllable is carefully chosen to not mean what it sounds like – every utterance has a double meaning.
Oh for straight-forward plain-speaking politicians once again.
What we need is more restrictions, to avoid more restrictions
The way the rulers are getting some lackeys to say there should or will or probably will be another lockdown, and others to say they “would” rule it out, is reminiscent of Charles Manson who gave his “girls” hallucinogenic drugs and then a mixture of messages saying “I am God” and “I am the Devil”. Say hello to Learned Helplessness.
Another aspect of it is that Kwarteng is telling small and medium businesses “keep borrowing”.
when interest rates spike his string pullers can own good business for knockdown prices.
Opposite the ‘could’ ‘might’ ‘should’ school of project fear hyperbole as used by Ferguson.
That’s a certainty then, nudge nudge
In Yes Minister, didn’t Sir Humphrey say “Don’t believe anything until it has been officially denied”.
Absolutely. This has always been the MO of government.
The difference is that in the past, they dealt with relatively small things that affected few people in a small way, so nobody actually cared. It was all just part of the political game and everyone who was in the game knew about it.
These days, these people have totalitarian control over our lives. We hang on their every word because one of their diktats can have a huge impact on our daily lives.
“Lockdown is the nuclear option.”
“We have no plans to introduce vaccine passports.”
We are being primed for Lockdown, the psyops team are at it again with their little polls to suggest that the majority believe there will be another Lockdown. Why is it necessary to ask that question? who gains from that question? It is seed planting so that when it comes along all the sheep will calmly go back into their pens.
Yesterday the Corona virus act was extended without even a vote, why would they even bother to vote? This is life now this is our and I can barely contain laughter our democracy.
We now live in the equivalent of East Berlin where we are ruled by diktat, where we have to show papers, where we can be ordered into our homes, curfewed, where protest can once again be stopped and where the Police have powers to do anything they like.
Why would they want to end this wonderful control. There may not be another Lockdown, but by polling and talking about it in the press it continues the heightend fear levels, how wonderful for those great men and women in Whitehall knowing they can do what they like with us and the majority will meekly thank them for it.
The only reason the police are not totally out of control is that there has yet to be a successful prosecution under the so called Coronovirus Legislation.
That and everyone has a camera on their phone.
and the covid overtime payments have stopped
Doesn’t work in Oz.
Never believe anything until it has been officially denied -yes prime minister
The whole point of plan B vaccine passports is so that it can be claimed vax passports are better than plan C lockdowns….
anyway, interestingly (ignore the numbering, a copy n paste issue)…
Vaccine passports – no health/biological justification:
Vaccine passports are not capable of controlling transmission for at least 5 biological reasons:
We have noticed that double vaccinated parents have been getting ill and passing this on to their unvaccinated children (although that could also be the result of spike transmission). However, the children from unvaccinated families have not been sick. This is anecdotal of course but this phenomenon has been quite noticeable around us.
for more information on vaccine safety read….
https://www.independentinformation.co.uk/resources/articles/covid-vaccines-safe-effective
What?? Vaxx pass doesn’t protect us? I assumed that the magic app on one’s magic phone provided some type of forcefield that surrounded the passholder that meant nothing could get in or out.
Were people doing it wrong, does one switch on the app and then hold the phone in front of one’s mouth? There has to be some explanation as to why an app that tv ads keep telling me will protect us, somehow fails to protect us.
This is all based on a rise in self-tested positives in children. It happened in Scotland before England (because they went back to school before English kids) and is declining in Scotland now and England will follow them down shortly.
That’s why the clamour is happening now: They have only until next week before a large number of their precious cases they again want to use to sell loads and loads of Chinese throwaway masks (the NHS confederation guys absolutely certainly has business contacts to PPE suppliers) will likely melt away.
The fact is that most of the 650 mp`s are a cancer on freedom. Ignore, resist and fight back.
No “vax” passports, no lockdown and no compliance. They need to understand this – it will not be the great reset these scum are dreaming of but a great awakening.
648 presently
Well we know one MP who will no longer be voting against Vaxpass social credit systems.
Off topic, but I’m generally surfing the net and saw an article titled “Those people who don’t need the vaccine”. I didn’t bother to read it, just thought anybody with a functioning brain are exempt.
All of this has just brought back that awful anxious feeling and nauseous knot in my stomach that we are going back to dreadful restrictions on our lives. I really don’t think I can cope this time and am in despair. The government, NHS and MSM between them are mentally abusing me and I don’t think I can take it anymore.
Garfy
You are not alone. You have friends here. Together will hold the line. And don’t forget that laughter is the best medicine, so never fail to laugh at their countless idiocies (for that is what they are).
Please know that you are not alone, not at all. Different people have different levels of being able to cope, and different ways of coping. While there are some that say keeping off this ‘bad news’ site might make you feel better, my view is that it’s comforting to know that there are others who feel the same. We are always here for you, every single one of us.
Thank you both.
I feel exactly the same. Out of 1800 in the “middle England” village I live in I think there are (except children) probably only 10 unjabbed. It’s a lonely experience and people who I would perceive to be relatively intelligent are just dismissive of anything that challenges the agenda. Luckily my partner feels the same as I do and I have a number of friends who are holding the line. I feel like I’m waiting for all the others to have an epiphany but don’t know how that will arrive…….unexplained/ unexpected death of a loved one?
You’re most definitely not alone. You’ve come this far, stand firm and don’t give up now.
Due to the fact that I regularly work from 3pm – 11pm and don’t really have any friends in England, just some pub acquaintances, I spent the first lockdown and the time which started with the 10pm curfew and ended with the end of the 3rd lockdown in almost complete social isolation (minus a hasty, masked 30 minutes daily shopping trip).
That wasn’t exactly fun. But humans can cope with worse things and you can do that, too. Giving up means the abusers win. Otherwise, they will have to pay sooner or later.
“Government doesn’t want to bring in another lockdown”.
I like that emphasis on the word ‘want’.
Government invariably does what it says it doesn’t want to do and doesn’t do what it says it wants to do – ‘diddums’ – it’s blame, not sympathy, that’s justifiable
Neville Chamberlain didn’t ‘want’ to go to war with Germany.
You can always tell when a politician is lying, just watch their body language and talk. Another lockdown is on its way, as predicted 4 months ago when the so-called restrictions were lifted.
Update :
Covid warning as ‘Delta plus’ rips through UK – Boris on alert and ‘won’t hesitate to act’ (msn.com)
Isn’t Marburg Virus going to be used at some point in the future to enforce lockdown?
Indeed, predicted on the basis of increased cases after the schools went back, not that any children are keeling over in the classroom.
It’s time that government started warning that characters calling for lockdowns perhaps ought to be looking for other jobs and that we need people in those positions who will look forward not back.
These characters won’t wind their necks in until their income and power is threatened.
So……yesterday the government spat in the face of democracy and extended its ‘emergency powers’ to regulate our lives the nth degree…….without even a proper vote (and there is absolutely no furore in the media).
There is NO emergency – and the government ‘doesn’t want’ to regulate…….so why is it keeping ‘emergency powers’?
Ask too why the monsters of SAGE and people like this NHS zombie are spouting off about the ‘incredible dangers that face us’……..after all, we’ve been jabbed.
Three things become apparent:
> this really is about control and not a public health issue…….the SAGE/NHS people are reading from the government’s script
> we’re on the road to undemocratic nowhere, with no means to hold our government to account
> the jabs don’t work – they only succeed in making the jabbed more vulnerable to this relatively harmless virus – and the NHS is indeed going to be overwhelmed this winter…..with jabbed people.
Without any doubt whatsoever, Plan ‘B’ is going to be implemented within a fortnight, in order to cover-up the fact that the jabs are far more dangerous than the disease. Wales and Scotland were just outliers – if they’ve done it……England and N.I. will have to follow suit.
NOT the government, the “opposition” also decided no opposition was required.
Latvia has gone back into Lockdown, ‘just for a month’* let’s see if the EU follows.
*RT
If our leaders have told us this then we must take them at their word
They didn’t get elected to parliament to tell us lies.
They are men and women of honour
Oh how I do love good news
Slightly off topic. How about your top 10 most hated Covidians:
0. Fauci
He is the architect of it all.
How did I miss him? Thank you!!
Fauci, Vallance and Simon Danzuk
eco-health backers and engineers of the ‘rona.
Not sure if this one is really far out there but isn’t there a “grey pope” (order of the jesuits and leader of the “knights of Malta) who really is in charge of everything including Gates, the Pope, the Rothschilds, Biden etc?
Is he in the cabal, a 33rd degree Freemason and / or a satanist? If so then yes. By the way, I heard the Swiss guards who protect the pope resigned because they didn’t want the vaccine. Oh and the Vatican is closed and the pope has been arrested. The alternative media stories are really much more interesting and – who knows? – very possibly true!
I think one Swiss guard actually did and the rest gave in when the rest were threatened. He was interviewed.
No.
Devi Sridhar….
Jeanette krankie ahem Sturgeon…
2 excellent candidates!
You took the words out of my keyboard.
I have the Great British Public on the list.
Moi aussi.
Maybe slightly outside the top 10, but that stupid smug fuck of an arrogant, 2-faced “doctor” …. “Dr.” Hillary on GMB. 2 minutes alone in a room … just 2 minutes …
Doesn’t usually feature in the UK as he’s more a scourge on Germany: Christian Drosten who – with a business parter of his who sells these kinds of tests – invented the Sars-CoV2 PCR test.
Where is the Daily Sceptics outrage article above the line about our elected representatives not being minded to vote on extending the coronavirus restriction laws for another 6 months, thereby extending them by default?
Just tumbleweed here. Just like in the MSM.
Further lock ups were pretty much guaranteed the moment that awful woman said ‘the ayes have it’ yesterday while cackling like a nasty little goblin. You need only look at the dates, 6mths from 21 Oct is just after Easter weekend and peak of the uk flu season is Jan-March. Add on the massive artificial hike in gas electricity fuel and food prices, which means there will be a lot of elderly and vulnerable people trying to struggle through winter / flu season without heating or food. Clearly they just didn’t bump off enough of them during 2020/21.
Wasn’t it Useless Eustace who said the same last time, a couple of days before the Clown and his ‘heavy heart’ smacked us down.
This is now standard operating procedure: out comes some NHS talking head to say we need to lock down; out comes some sock puppet minister to say we won’t …
“Perhaps this last remark – that the Government doesn’t want to bring in another lockdown – is closer to the point.”
I’m not buying that. They had it well within their power to declare victory a long time ago.
Just to clarify: Are they ruling out another lockdown just like how they ruled out lockdowns last year as being the nuclear option, or like how they ruled out vaccine passports?
““This time last year we didn’t have the vaccine.”
… and lower mortality despite either.
Saw a snip of today’s paper-review on GB News last night – every front page: bold letters promoting the ‘booster’ jabs. The Sun have gone so far as to create an expensive graphic of a needle launching like a rocket. Yesterday: nothing. Today: wall-to-wall. How can that happen when we supposedly have a free independent news industry?
Apparently by the end of this week, the advertising agency operating on behalf of the government are going to launch their campaign to really push the ‘boosters’ and this is separate to the so-called independent newspapers.
We all know what this means. Fear, panic, urgency. Save Christmas. Save granny. etc.
And here’s the business secretary reeling out more weasel words. Of course they’re prepping us for another lockdown.
“I would rule that out.” – would, but haven’t.
“No, I don’t think so.” – not a convincing answer
“We don’t want to go back into lockdown and further restrictions,” – but we can and we will.
Note the addition of ‘further restrictions’. What could that be? There’s only one more restriction they haven’t introduced yet, and that’s the Social Credit system. The end of cash.
They’re giddy with excitement about this.
Bill Gates was here a couple of days ago and suddenly the news is full of panic about COVID-19 and new lockdowns and the need for more vaccination.
But I expect it’s
> just a coincidence.
2 jabs bad, 3 jabs good.
“4 jabs better”
random pharma shareholder/exec
Thankfully I don’t read newspapers or watch telly.
The minister who the Treasury called a LIAR
Plan B (vax passports) was always plan A! Masks are the psychological element to keep the pandemic narrative alive in public spaces. Covid19 has become a psy-op of the technocratic state, they aren’t even bothering to pretend we live in a democracy any more, MP’s can’t even be bothered to leave home to vote now.
So, lockdown by the end of the month then.
Only for the sheep, Jo. I’ll still be gadding about, as I’m sure most if not all of us here will.
Oh same here, but it doesn’t half limit your options when everywhere is closed.
I know of least 1 pub and 1 cafe that are adamant they will stay open through any future lockdown where I live. If they are going to lose their business, they intend to go out on their feet, rather than while being on their knees.
The landlord is also considering reverse discrimination in that vaxxed people won’t be served. Citing health concerns.
That’s true. Just need to know where to go though
They want the vax passports instead of lockdown. Leaks suggest it will go live on Dec 17th.
Exactly!
yet “Delta Plus” as the health fascists term it, totally ignores the jabs.
only recovery prevents re-infection.
United Non Compliance.
To lockdowns, masks, vaxx passports and any other plan B elements.
Want to see the future, just watch what’s happening in Italy!
First western country to use lockdown = Italy!
First EU country to implement Draconian green pass = Italy
First EU country to start to impose no vax no job = Italy
Soon we’ll all be Italians, just like lockup.
The Australians are all Chinese, so maybe all being Italian is a step up?
The land down under, where everything’s upside down, the police are prepared to kill you to keep you safe! Was there any evidence china was ever that bad?
Not that i’m a fan of the CCP!
Directly from the BBC. They KNOW it’ll be a different message and they can barely hide their smugness:
“We have just had it confirmed that the Health Secretary, Sajid Javid, will be hosting a press conference this afternoon.
It comes after seven days of daily Covid cases pushing over 40,000 and the number of patients in hospital rising by 10% in a week.
The NHS Confederation is calling for some measures to be reintroduced if England is to avoid “stumbling into a winter crisis”.
But Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng says the government’s approach is working.
We will see what his cabinet colleague has to say later…”
The rolling vaxx program in the UK is the PROBLEM.
It creates a self-fulfilling cycle of variant leak-outs. Great for all the medics dialed in for BIG Pharma and GloboCap narrative kickbacks.
Not so good for the poor, weak, elderly and malnourished that these variants will cull ad-infinitum as the never-ending boosters go in. Rinse-n-variant release repeat. FFS.
The unvaxxd will of course take the hit for this, as the rhetoric about the unclean/dirty folk will be increased. There has to be the non-compliant “others” to blame….
It’s a horribly smart strategy that’s been unleashed on us by the WEF and our elite overlords… and not one single sell-out presstitute within the MSM will highlight the link of rising cases to the vaxx program.
Guaranteed – UK green-pass vaxx passports coming in Dec.
[Let it not be said you weren’t warned]
The MSM propaganda on cases is being hyped as I type…
‘The NHS Confederation’? Is this a rebranding?
Britain’s worst newspaper but anyway
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mirror-signal-wait-months-for-services-07jfmjbnq
Mounting backlogs in essential services risk eroding public trust in the state’s ability to perform the most basic functions, ministers have been warned.
From driving tests to registering title deeds, Britons are facing months-long waits to access essential state services.
Simple updates to the Land Registry to reflect a change in a home’s ownership or mortgage are routinely taking at least three weeks and often more than ten, according to the official website.
The warning came as the Institute for Government, a Whitehall think tank, and the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy published a performance tracker identifying huge backlogs across public services including schools, elective care, criminal court cases, and referrals to children’s social care.
Time to slim the extortion funded sector down.
Just like the old USSR. I don’t mean a bit like it, I mean JUST like it. Same reason.
I agree with most of that, but ‘Britain’s worst newspaper’? I have to say that the GroanAid surely takes the prize! (Albeit the Times is now a disgrace!)
And the Sunday Times. I stopped buying the Sunday Times when Dominic Lawson compared lockdown opponents to Harold Shipman.
I stopped buying the Times when their cartoonist tried to blame the fires in Australia on climate change because, according to his implication, climate change causes arson and the lack of backburns.
Why do these officials and alleged ‘brits’ who want lockdowns get more say than the majority who want none of it?
You need to ask?
One day after Colin Powell, Gordon Ramsay’s double jabbed cat dies of covid
Gordon Ramsay and family suffer tragic loss – details | HELLO! (hellomagazine.com)
It’s been ruled out which means you can bet your entire life savings, your house and several bodyparts on there being a lockdown.
God the BBC HYS on all this is depressing.
Literally every single person wanting more masks! What’s the fetish?
If anyone wants to wear a mask, let them just don’t expect the rest of us to follow through.
No doubt these “libertarians” will “reluctantly” reintroduce lockdown measures and blame us refuseniks for the calamitous situation! When will this b.s. end? When Schwarb has his way? When the depopulation exercise is complete? When The Greens are in charge? Give me strength!!
“Business Secretary Rules Out Another Lockdown”
No he didn’t…
It’s not rocket science you know.
Not that we can find anything that this lot say to be remotely believable anyway of course.
Just copy and paste this link around so people know what it is they are injecting into themselves and their children. And no I don’t believe our government or their families have taken this!
https://rumble.com/vnzy9f-shocking-dr.-carrie-madej-releases-first-look-at-pfizer-vial-contents.html