Cloth Face Masks Might Make You Feel Better but They Won’t Protect You From Covid

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A standard face mask acts as nothing more than a “comfort blanket” and offers little protection against Covid, a scientific adviser to SAGE has said ahead of the partial easing of the mask mandate on Monday. The Telegraph has the story.

Dr Colin Axon, who has advised the Government on minimising the risk of cross-infection in supermarkets, accused medics of presenting a “cartoonish” view of how tiny particles travel through the air.

He warned some cloth masks have gaps which are invisible to the naked eye, but are 500,000 times the size of viral Covid particles.

“The small sizes are not easily understood but an imperfect analogy would be to imagine marbles fired at builders’ scaffolding, some might hit a pole and rebound, but obviously most will fly through,” he told the Telegraph.

The mask debate has been reignited this week after the Government published “Freedom Day” guidance recommending their continued use. It led to Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, enforcing their continued use on the London Underground.

Dr Axon said the public need to be offered a wider view of the science behind face masks, rather than the “partial view” of information being pushed by medics over their effectiveness.

“Medics have this cartoonised view of how particles move through the air – it’s not their fault, it’s not their domain – they’ve got a cartoonish view of how the world is,” he said.

“Once a particle is not on a biological surface it is no longer a biomedical issue, it is simply about physics. The public has only a partial view of the story if information only comes from one type of source. Medics have some of the answers but not a whole view.” …

An Oxford study last summer concluded that masks were “effective” in reducing the spread of the virus.

However, other studies have cast doubt on their effectiveness. A subsequent Danish study involving 6,000 people concluded that there was no statistical difference in infection spread in non-wearers, while data on U.S. states with non-mandated usage failed to show a correlated uptick in cases.

“The public were demanding something must be done, they got masks, it is just a comfort blanket,” Dr Axon noted. “But now it is entrenched, and we are entrenching bad behaviour.”

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dhid
dhid
5 years ago

A standard face mask acts as nothing more than a “comfort blanket”… 

A comfort blanket that suffocates you, depriving your brain (however small) of oxygen and is a filthy rag that is fondled and fiddled with to pick up the general bacterial crap from your mouth and breath and deposit on everything else you touch. An entirely anti-social activity.

Sod “comfort blanket” – the willing wearers are mostly either idiotic sheep, or “virtue” signalling Woke arseholes.

gedhurst
gedhurst
5 years ago

Who, in their right mind, would mandate prolonged, daily, obstruction of the respiratory pathway as a disease control method?
It’s psychopathy.

Zoomer@14
Zoomer@14
5 years ago

Tumours are anaerobic…which means they thrive on carbon dioxide. If you don’t want a tumour, take OFF the mask. Allow oxygen to cleanse the body and help the tumour reduce its size.

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Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago

Colin Axon is a hero. He says “social distancing” is a load of masks too. Youtube video of this last summer: “We should relax pretty much all the restrictions that we have.”

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago

Dr Colin Axon, I love you.
How did you slip through the recruitment screening for Sage though?

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
5 years ago

Masks identify those who are most susceptible to suggestion.

From there it’s just a matter of herding them around.

Colin
Colin
5 years ago

To my great surprise, given its rigid lockdown stance, the Scottish government website clearly states that “The evidence for wearing masks is lacking” and “masks are not effective in stopping transmission”.

Marmalade
Marmalade
5 years ago

The facemask is a decoy. Think of all the hours wasted by lockdown sceptics complaining about them when the time could have been better spent complaining about lockdown instead?

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

BS. Mask mandates were and are a crucial part of the totalitarian agenda, same as the Hitler salute was.
They abolished the right of bodily autonomy and opened the box of the Pandora to abolish ever more of them once that and they were accepted by the public.

mishmash
mishmash
5 years ago

“it’s not their fault, it’s not their domain – they’ve got a cartoonish view of how the world is”.

I disagree. They are healthcare professionals, it is absolutely their domain and they should know better.

Ozzie
Ozzie
5 years ago

Two different pubs in Yorkshire. First one on Friday night, wife, two adult children and I walk into a pub. Son and I not wearing a mask, wife and daughter wearing masks. Waitress asks about masks and I say that my son and I are excempt to which she responds “OK” with nothing more being said. On Saturday night – same arrangement with same configuration of face coverings – we walk in to another pub – despite the usual paraphanlia at the door, no-one says anything about the lack of facecoverings or asks us to sign-in or sanitise. My daughter is recognised by one of the waitresses and they hug each other. The staff there, except for wearing facecoverings, just ignored the rules – not quite back to normal, but not far off. I did feel sorry for the wait staff though, with the heat and having to wear muzzles.

Annie
Annie
5 years ago

So medics have no idea how viral infection works, but it’s not their fault because it’s not their domain?
What the hell IS their domain, then?

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago

Leaving the efficiency and political/control stories aside, there are 3 real world facts which should make everyone ditch their masks ASAP and for good:
1. Noone, absolutely noone, puts them on and off and wears them correctly, exchanges them correctly and early enough.
The vast majority mishandle them in such a way that using their used loo paper instead would be much more healthy for them.
See hospital hygienist Prof. Ines Kappstein on that: you need to wash your hands 3x per exchange, use two sterile masks for that only, and exchange it after having spoken 5 sentences.
Obviously, she was demoted for publishing that study and advise.
2. On N95 masks, there were previously strict time limits applicable which are now completely ignored, and to be effective, they need to be fitted in the first place.
Noone adheres to either.
Forcing them on the general population like the Germans and Austrians do, and in on particular children, is a genocidal crime.
(See recent Walach/Hockertz study on ‘any mask for children is dangerous’.)
3. Masks are not a zero cost/damage option or NPI.
To the contrary.
Even if they are used correctly, which no one does, they pose a vast… Read more »

Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
5 years ago

ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE FILTER.

It’s boils my blood whenever I read about filter sizes from people who should know better.

As far as I’m aware the Coronavirus Act didn’t manage to repeal the path of least resistance law.

Which means that when you exhale you put the mask under pressure, and it billows out like a sail. The air goes up the side, bottom and top, not through the mask – along with any virus aerosols it happens to be transporting – which can then go for miles.

No filtration at all.

Within seconds or minutes at best the entire space you are in has a virus threshold sufficient to trigger infection in the susceptible.

The only masks that have a hope of working to protect the individual are those that create a seal around the mouth and nose on inhale, and that are of sufficient quality to filter viruses, and changed frequently enough to keep the filter clean.

If the population can’t cope with basic physics, how are they going to get their head around the fluid dynamics?

Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Agreed. I was looking again at the mask law and ‘guidance’ recently, what with Fweedom Day coming up. Interestingly, the guidance says you can wear a visor with a mask, but shouldn’t wear one on its own, as it “does not filter particles” – like (they say) a mask does.

Yet, the law – the actual legislation – makes no mention at all of filtering particles, because they know damn well a home made mask can’t do that. They are lying. Again.

One only has to consider the masks used by paint sprayers, think about the size of a paint droplet, and the fact that they have a face-fit test for them, but can the plebs see that? Not a chance. Ok, plebs, it’s like a chicken wire umbrella… get it? No.

It’s not even up to the level of basic physics, Lucan, it’s in the domain of everyday experience, but they can’t even manage that. The mask is now more of a talisman, as long as you have it, it will ward off the bad juju.

It was only ever a visible, public symbol of fear.

Drew63
Drew63
5 years ago

For pretty much the entirety of World War II, British civilians carried around with them gas masks. For much of the war it was a criminal offence to be out in public without such a mask. Department store John Lewis threatened its staff: “”those who come without their gas mask must not be surprised if they are dismissed as unsuitable in time of war.” The masks themselves were cumbersome, heavy, and uncomfortable and unpleasant to wear. Despite this British Government boffins suggested civilians wear them fifteen minutes or so per day “to get used to wearing them.”

We may spend a lot of time debating how effective these masks would have been, should the Germans have decided to deploy chemical weapons against the British population. We can spend even more time looking at the general ineffectiveness of chemical weapons in a wide-area attack.

What we cannot debate is this: These fucking masks killed many times more people than they could possibly have ever saved. Why? Because the filtration medium used in them was asbestos. A leading cause of asbestosis, pleuritis, and lung cancer.

Do we ever learn? Apparently not.

Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
5 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

The government had a bugger of a job getting people to wear them. I remember reading that they only ever got as high as 15% adherence and that was in the early days of the war.

Even the blackout was an extremely dubious measure. The Luftwaffe didn’t seem to have any difficulty finding any British city – believe me, I’m from Coventry. However in 1940 the King’s Surgeon complained that the blackout was killing 600 people a month in road accidents without the Germans even taking off.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

And don’t forget the insane levels of crime during blackouts. My mum said it was an awful time for no real benefit

Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

The parallels are quite remarkable. The gas masks mandated and issued to the public in WW2 might have protected them from the types of poison gas in use 20 years previously, in WW1, but would have been entirely ineffective against the various forms of Mustard Gas or the Nerve Gases (Tabun and Sarin) that the Germans had developed. Again, forcing masks on the public was pure theatre.
(Ironically, Hickson and Welch, a chemical company based near me was producing a foul-smelling additive that was used to treat the British Army battledress. The squaddies were told that it was it was an insecticide but, in reality, it was an attempt to protect the wearer from Mustard Gas which, fortunately, the Germans never used.

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
5 years ago

‘We’d like you to wear a face covering’ is the new sign for tomorrow at a nearby pharmacy.
I’d like them to give me a large cheque. However neither are going to happen.

Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
5 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

Exactly, it’s like the “expect”. I expect to win the lottery every week but it’s never happened.

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago

I don’t like the use of “cloth” here. Is this meant to imply that the blue ones which some people refer to as “surgical” masks are more effective? Hmmm…

18 months ago all the “reputable” senior health advisors were telling us that masks did not prevent viral spread or could make things worse (because of constant touching to readjust). Now they lie and say the opposite.

Masking of the public is wrong because it is built on a big lie and is part of a control system. It’s nothing to do with health and it’s kind of surprising that Lockdown Sceptics gives succour to the idea that masking has something to do with health, against all the evidence.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago

Bojo and Rishi now isolating after “backlash”.

Haha hilarious.

silverbirch
silverbirch
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

presumably to jet off on the private plane to some deluxe destination and their ‘absence’ won’t be noticed

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  silverbirch

Seems like Sunak senses the mood and tweeted he was isolating, forcing Johnson into a corner

tom171uk
tom171uk
5 years ago

Did you see the blessed Ferguson pontificating on the Andrew Marr show. Lots of opinion masquerading as scientific fact. And then we got Jenrick…

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago

Hmmm.. deleted. So much I’d like to say but feel constrained.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

No constraints here my friend

mwhite
mwhite
5 years ago
Catee
Catee
5 years ago

I see the blob and chancellor are not going to have to isolate despite being in close contact with a positive case, surprise, surprise they’re taking part in a ‘new’ study where they will have daily tests instead. How come these new studies only appear to involve our ruling elite just as they’re about to head off on their hols?
I’m waiting for the blob to say he doesn’t need to do any if it because he’s had the disease and the chances of getting it twice are very low – if only.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Possibly

But I’m more concerned that the pilot will turn into guidance that businesses bully their staff into following

Anything that embeds mass is bad for us

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago
Reply to  Catee

They are not ‘elite’ – they are thugs protected by bodyguards and the Police.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Catee

And, he’s had the injections 🙂

Catee
Catee
5 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

No he’s had saline.

Alexander Tertius Harvey
Alexander Tertius Harvey
5 years ago
Reply to  Catee

The blob’s reputation might have been improved had he succumbed to it last year.

ArtC
ArtC
5 years ago

Masks are useless at stop a virus? No shit, Sherlock.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago

On a Dorset beach yesterday and an entire family near us were wearing masks. These people cannot be saved

dorset dumpling
dorset dumpling
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Neither can the couple I saw in their car, also yesterday and in Dorset, both wearing cotton masks.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Unfortunately, while we are arguing about face masks, which I readily agree are an abomination and a behavioural scientist’s dream, the prospect of vaccine passports is not being discussed. This is the real hill we will have to die on.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  Kat

I don’t disagree, but I’m beyond arguing about masks as I just don’t wear one anywhere. I’ve moved on to mocking those who do.

The passports I think won’t take off. Businesses seem to be saying no… As more and more people realise the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it or passing it on, the case will crumble I think

Kat
Kat
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

I hope you’re right. The latest revelation about Sajid’s health does rather suggest how pointless they are.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

“but I’m beyond arguing about masks as I just don’t wear one anywhere.”

You won’t be flying anywhere then. The vaccine passports are already here.

https://thl.fi/en/web/infectious-diseases-and-vaccinations/what-s-new/coronavirus-covid-19-latest-updates/vaccines-and-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccination-certificate

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

They’re not here at all.

Flying yes, although from what I’ve heard everyone removes then to eat. For the entire length of the flight.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

They pretend to enforce the regulations and we pretend to follow them…

This is the most pernicious of damage to society.

sophie123
sophie123
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Even better, BA have reverted to handing out bottles of water and bAgs of crisps, to aid you in this endeavour

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

BA accepts your self-exemption, sofar.
But you’ll have to put it on in your destination country.
Even in Miami airport, although once you exit it, you’ll be free again.

amanuensis
amanuensis
5 years ago
Reply to  Kat

There is now rather a lot of evidence emerging that mass vaccination has not only led to vaccine escape, thus rendering the vaccines useless at protecting against infection,

But also that they’re resulted in relative large numbers of asymptomatic-infected. If these are also infectious (very likely) then any relaxation of restrictions for the vaccinated (ie, passports) will only make things worse.

Indeed, it is looking increasingly likely that we should really be maintaining or even increasing restrictions on the vaccinated, while relaxing them for the unvaccinated. But, of course, that’ll never ever happen…

We urgently need proper science looking into the behaviour / time course of covid infection in the vaccinated. But the authorities seem determined on suppressing any anti-vaccine research.

The authorities’ actions appear increasingly risky — will the official policy of mass vaccination end up making things far far worse?

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

“Indeed, it is looking increasingly likely that we should really be maintaining or even increasing restrictions on the vaccinated, while relaxing them for the unvaccinated“

In reality we should be halting all special treatment of covid and going back to the old normal, pre-2020.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Correct.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

we never should have started it…

eastender53
eastender53
5 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Asymptomatic transmission, whlst possibly not a myth, is not and has never been a significant factor. It’s actually, along with PCR testing, one of the two pillars used to keep this charade going.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

The Scamdemic has indeed maintained its momentum by constant use of testing of the people without symptoms.

Why are we not testing the population for malaria or dengue fever, or…erm?

Because we don’t have symptoms.

This is how ridiculous our situation is and people still believe.

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

If by evidence you mean what passes for evidence these days, i.e. someone making an assertion and saying its science, then maybe.

Personally I don’t see anyone getting particularly sick, flocking to hospitals or dying, but what do I know, I just use.my eyes and my brain.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

You are missing the point. C1984 is simply the cover for all the restrictions, vaccines, passports and whatever.

Move away from “the virus” and look beyond.

The virus is the gateway to the NWO.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

so not Bournemouth then… 🙂

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

Report this by all means – but not as if it’s a revelation.

The actual news is that a member of SAGE has actually said something that is correct. But that’s just the law of averages.

Draper233
Draper233
5 years ago

If we get a sustained heatwave this summer, it’ll be interesting to see if they’re honest enough to tell the elderly that wearing a mask outdoors may actually be harmful.

I’m pretty sure somebody within the dictatorship let this slip last year.

After all, we must do everything we can to “protect the NHS”.

RGMugabe
RGMugabe
5 years ago

No shit!

Paul B
Paul B
5 years ago

Surprise surprise, there’s a new pilot scheme in town and Bozo and Dishi don’t have to self isolate.. Imagine my shock!

BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
5 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Bozo has done one of his famous u-turns!!

Mark
Mark
5 years ago

The important thing to grasp here is that anything you are told in the mainstream media by an “expert” giving you the government line is that its content is wholly functional. Any relationship with truth is purely coincidental – it says what is thought to be most likely to induce the most favourable behaviour for the government at that moment.

Hence the “expert advice” as to the “facts” will change from time to time, even as the actual truth on the issue in question does not change.

Facemasks have been a prime exemplar of this, over the past 16 months..

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago

Keep saying “mask debate” quickly….sorry, I have a juvenile mind. The masks right from the start were nothing more than a virtue signalling tool “to make OTHERS feel safe” 🙄 which has now evolved into a comfort blankie to make them feel safe! People look like absolute gimps in them but as the mask is all part of the removal of dignity in the name of community “safety” people allowed themselves to embrace it, to feel good about themselves! Most still have no idea that by wearing it they are showing their acceptance of the new regime, and that they are stressor tool to keep the cult of fear going. Many are still utterly clueless that their mask protects no one.

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart
Catee
Catee
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

😂😂😂

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Exactly! 👍

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