Two-thirds of all U.K. adults have received two doses of a Covid vaccine, almost a week ahead of schedule, Health Secretary Sajid Javid has announced. Yet the Government has U-turned on ending all lockdown restrictions on ‘Freedom Day’ and appears instead to be gearing up for more restrictions.
Sky News has the story.
Sajid Javid said on Twitter: “Two-thirds of adults across the U.K. have now had two jabs.
“We have beaten our target by almost a week – this is a huge achievement. Thank you to everyone who has come forward.
“The vaccine is our wall of defence against the virus.”
The figure is a key milestone ahead of a drastic [!] easing of restrictions on Monday.
The Government delayed lifting most rules until July 19th so two-thirds of adults could be double-jabbed, and every adult could be offered a first vaccine.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson thanked people for “coming forward” and “helping others get jabbed” on Twitter. …
Latest data from the Department of Health shows a total of 81,192,857 doses have been administered in the U.K., with 46,037,090 people receiving a first dose (87.4%) and 35,155,767 people receiving both doses (66.7%).
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Because they’re personally all making a shit load out of war..?
That is what Julian Assange exposed in the never ending War in Afghanistan. A money laundering racket for the Western elites.
Without reading the article, I predict the content will be the following: Another call for Ukraine to surrender unconditionally so that Putin can rid itself successfully of a war he apparently cannot win.
Putin has lost the war every month, and certainly can’t win it every month since the start.
Yet…
Would it not be better to read the article first, before posting speculations about what you think the article said?
Since I knew it would be saying this as neither the A-Americans nor the B-Americans are particularly flexible with regards to their usual political positions, why? All of this Surrender! vs Fight! is really just about US domestic politics. Biden supports Ukraine. Hence, his political opponents must ‘support’ Putin (verbally) in order to weaken Biden’s domestic position and that’s it. Neither party gives a shit about the actual outcome of this war, only about the proximate effect it has in the USA.
It has never been a binary choice. It is quite ludicrous to conclude that if you don’t support one side you must support the other.
I am sure there are others like me who try to look at the situation objectively without waving a partisan banner, or are simply not that interested.
Was there some sort of football match last night?
Tennis too!
And cycling!
I don’t understand what that’s supposed to mean in the context of my comment. As far as I can make this out, the US domestic position is binary, it’s either for or against Biden and this implies making either pro-Ukraine or pro-Russia noises.
Orban is known as European ‘friend’ of Putin and hence, if he’s making such a trip, It can be taken for granted that his mission is to sound out if there’s a way to make Ukraine aquiesce with Russia having taken a further bite out of it, either voluntarily or forcibly because of loss of US support (impying loss of support from US satellite states like Germany).
There’s zero room for negotations here because Ukraine doesn’t control anything Putin wants back which could be used for some quid pro quo barter. Hence, a statement like “European leaders are averse to diplomacy” is disingenious, despite they’re obviously not impartial.
On the basis that voter turnout was 66% at the last presidential election, I think your logic is faulty.
In case your maths is rusty, if the voters are split roughly 50/50 which has been the case recently, that means as many people did not vote as voted for either candidate, which makes it a trinary choice.
I have no idea what you believe to be discussing with whom but it’s certainly not a statement I made.
Only a pillock pontificates on something he has no idea about and also has never read. You do not even give any evidence for your oh so wise nonsense. Are you sure you want to be here with the grown ups?
Do you have something like a point? Or are you just a chatbot trained on boilerplate internet abuse?
Money
1.Because the RPTB ie the “Banks” –
https://www.freetothrive.com/problem/follow-the-money/
don’t want peace. They’ve grown immensely powerful and rich off the back of fractional banking aka uncontrolled capitalism and only chaos can now save them – at the expense of everyone else of course.
2.Most Western politicians are bag carriers for the above.
3.If they don’t follow orders they’ll be in trouble – see Hitler,Oban, Fico, Trump, Putin, Gaddafi, Assad. (Plus 3 African leaders who defied Covid jab implementation)
As regards 1-3 above, Lincoln, Garfield, Kennedy were all assassinated/murdered just after taking on the Banks ie threatening to or implementing their own currencies debt free. Putin stated 2 years ago that Russia will no longer be beholden to the Western Banks.
The Banks are a front, in the same way that Politicians are.
Because the EU wants to control Russian natural resources. It doesn’t have any of its own.
Number I know out of my head: Germany alone has the sixth largest coal reserves of the world. Deposits in the UK are fairly small when compared to that but still estimated to last for centuries if were they being mined. It’s just cheaper and politically more convenient, cf “climate change”, to get all of this stuff from elsewhere.
I hope they’re not harvesting wood from the famous Black Forest, but I wouldn’t put it past them!
If I hear the coal argument one more time I think I might top myself.
Yeah. Coal. The substance that makes countries rich.
Oil and Gas, RW. Oil and gas. That’s what changes the fortunes of nations. That’s the stuff drives conflict between countries
One of the conditions imposed on Germany in the 1945 capitulation was that it must stop turning coal into fuel (which implies accepting a dependency on oil imports from its enemies which wasn’t there before).
Part of what you say is true: the EU wants to control …
… and without any responsibility.
EU will have to get into line! Blackrock and pals come first.
“… why has it taken a maverick like Orbán to do what European leaders should have been doing from Day One? Sure, his efforts might lead nowhere. But it must be worth trying?”
Because they don’t want to. They are all in trouble with their unruly Great Unwashed, and there’s nothing like an external threat, a Bogey-Man, Putin, to rally the Proles around the flag and distract from the incompetence and evil of those in charge. And there’s nothing like a nice war for that. In the US the threat is internal, the Bogey-Man is Trump, and a nice civil war would come in handy. All that’s needed is for some ‘lone wolf’ to whack the bad man… Oh.
NATO is a bureaucracy. The primary aim of all bureaucracies is to survive and thrive by increasing scope and scale. NATO lost its purpose in 1990 and should have been shut down, so has had to create new markets for its output to justify its existence – Balkans 1990s, Middle-East next, now East again with its old sparring partner.
It is very easy to see for anyone paying attention.
PS: European ‘Leaders’ is oxymoronic, they are followers of and take instruction from the globalist mob.
Putin had peace until 2008 when he invaded Georgia.
Putin had peace until 2014 when he invaded Ukraine.
He had peace, again, until 2022 when he invaded Ukraine again.
He is not crazy, so why is this happening?
‘And, if you believe the forecasts and the estimates are based on actual work, the real work of people who understand this, who have devoted their whole lives to this, in 15 years, there may be 22 million fewer Russians. I ask you to think about this figure: a seventh of the country’s population. If the current trend continues, the nation’s survival will be in jeopardy’
Putin 2000
Good luck negotiating with that……
Were you opposed to the British government negotiating with the IRA and saving lives through the Good Friday Agreement?
Is to entirely miss the point.
The IRA eventually realised, after so many of their gunmen were killed in Northern Ireland and elsewhere, that they could not win through armed struggle and so, presciently, changed tack to favour a political settlement. It made sense for the British Government to negotiate with them.
Putin is set upon expanding Greater Russia, the Russian ‘Union State’, to incorporate Belarus (achieved), Ukraine (18% accomplished), Moldova (started) and the Baltic States (started at sea).
He is set on that for reasons of demography, to increase population mass by conquest to avoid Russia becoming weaker through a diminishing population.
Consequently, it is clear that Putin, unlike the IRA, is not serious about a negotiated settlement, except for reasons of short term expediency.
That is not in this country’s interests.
That is why 80% of the population of this country (in a CT Group survey June 2024) view Putin unfavourably.
In a democracy, that should mean that the government of this country is set against negotiations.
And so it is.
What would Putin need to do to convince you he is “ready to negotiate” as the IRA were? Can you recall what the IRA did to convince us of this?
Senior PIRA staff working for British Intelligence provided timely corroboration that PIRA were serious.
It is perfectly clear from sources within the Kremlin that Putin is not serious.
“It is perfectly clear from sources within the Kremlin that Putin is not serious.”
What would Putin need to do to convince you? I doubt we have any senior Russian military/political staff working for British Intelligence.
FSB strategy documents, Presidential Administration documents with good credible provenance from sources inside the Kremlin detailing the ‘Union State’ implementation plan, are already in circulation in Whitehall and elsewhere.
And, of course, Putin has made his intentions perfectly clear in his speeches.
Lukashenko has referenced the “Union State’, of which Belarus is already a member, in his speeches.
Difficult, therefore, for Putin to convince anyone to engage in negotiations.
Given crystal clear knowledge as to Putin’s real intentions, his serial reneging on previous Russian commitments to Ukrainian territorial integrity, freedom to determine its own alliances, what would be the point?
OK, so you’re saying we should never believe him, come what may? the only option is to spend money and let Ukrainians be killed until Putin gives up or dies?
Why do you feel responsible for people getting killed in some war between two foreign countries? Putin and his troops are responsible for “Ukrainians getting killed.” and fighting the Russians is a decision Ukrainians made. They’re free to end the war at any time by surrendering should they prefer that.
I don’t feel in any way responsible but it’s arguable that the UK plays a part in enabling the war to continue.
Every country which supports one side in this war is arguably playing a part in making it more difficult for the other to succeed.
The idiocy of an argument like “We must stop delivering arms to Ukraine because without them, Putin will eventually conquer his opponents and thus, eventually, his troops will stop killing Ukrainians and we will thus have prevented further bloodshed!” should be obvious, not the least because there’s absolutely no guarantee that a victorious Russian army will stop killing Ukrainians while there are still Ukrainians alive. A victorious Russian army of some time ago certainly didn’t stop killing Germans until the territories it was meant to conquer were free of them.
That’s not the argument I am making. We and others could suggest to Ukraine that they make a settlement with Russia, and they might be more likely to do this if we made it clear that we won’t go on supporting them forever.
That’s exactly what I wrote.
Well it depends on what you mean by “conquering his opponents”. I’m certainly not envisaging Russia taking over the whole of Ukraine, and I doubt they do either.
Bringing the war to a victorious conclusion, ie, Putin gets to keep whichever parts of Ukraine he is planning to annex this time, Ukraine gets to be content with whatever remains for now.
There’s principally nothing wrong with supporting a Russian victory in this war, however, it’s very wrong to hide behind a humantarian motive, ie, the killed Ukrainians, when doing so. The Russians are doing the killing and the Ukrainians defend themselves against that. Putin can end this war at any time. As can Ukraine. They are the warring parties and whatever losses their shared determination to fight brings are their responsibilty.
Depends what you mean by “Russian victory”, but I am not sure I “support it” – I just can’t see much hope of driving the Russians back to pre-invasion borders and it seems pointless to prolong the agony. I’m not much of a humanitarian though I neither do I delight in suffering. The whole thing seems like a huge waste of everything. Yes it’s up to Ukraine whether it fights on, but it seems likely they would be more inclined to settle if they didn’t have the west backing them – but that’s just my opinion.
Depends what you mean by “Russian victory”, but I am not sure I “support it” – I just can’t see much hope of driving the Russians back to pre-invasion borders and it seems pointless to prolong the agony.
What I meant write. Text above was accidentally posted early.
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Depends what you mean by “Russian victory”, but I am not sure I “support it”
I’ve defined that and it’s exactly what you describe below:
– I just can’t see much hope of driving the Russians back to pre-invasion borders
The Russians get to keep whatever they have, the Ukrainians get to be content that they still have the majority of their country left, IOW, Ukrainian surrender. I don’t believe you have either the military expertise or the necessary detail information to make an informed assessment of the situation (“can’t see much hope of …”).
it seems pointless to prolong the agony.
And there, we get right back into territory of this arrogant, patronizing pseudo-humanity: Dear Ukrainian kids. We, your parents, have decided that you must surrender your county. Putins’s invincible, anyway, and you’re just needlessly getting hurt by the attempt to resist him!
Did it ever occur to you that that’s not your decision to make?
Withdrawing support from Ukraine will certainly increase the chances of Russian victory by virtue of a Ukrainian capitulation. There can be all kinds of good reasons for such a decision, say, “struggle in a faraway country among people we know little of” aka “much too expensive and wins us nothing”. But this fake compassion, “If only the Russians weren’t forced to kill them because they’re unwisely not willing to just let them have what they want!” is not among them.
Wasn’t Zelensky forbidden from commencing peace talks by Uncle Sam’s whipping boy – Bunter?
What incentive is there for Ukraine to settle with Russia?
This is not the first time they have been invaded.
You think Ukraine will give up if we cut off support?
The Chechens, Syrians, Georgians, haven’t given up. PIRA didn’t give up when U.S. and Libyan support was cut off.
Ukraine will not stop. The danger from Ukrainian revanchism is arguably more dangerous for future peace than Putin’s delusional ‘Union State’.
Well you said yourself the IRA gave up eventually. But yes maybe Ukraine would carry on without us. We’ll see in 10 years time – I suspect not much will have changed.
Gerry Adams, McGuinness of PIRA never gave up. They simply turned to other means and their party is now running NI
Gave up militarily
‘They’re free to end the war at any time…….” Isn’t Ukraine a virtual dictatorship taking its orders from Uncle Sam? There are no opposition parties.
If it was up to me, we wouldn’t have started from here.
Today’s situation is a direct result of pusillanimous foreign policy over decades.
We signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994, for good reason, and then, a few years later, bombed Serbia. Having set a dangerous precedent, we then disarmed.
Russia invaded Georgia 2008. We did nothing. Libya used chemical weapons 2013. We did nothing. Russia invaded Ukraine 2014. Despite our security assurances given to Ukraine 1994, we did nothing.
I think the time for doing nothing is long since over.
That is why Ukraine will now become Europe’s foremost military power with Europe’s most developed defence industry. That will finally result in peace, as did Western Europe spending 5% of GDP on defence 1950-90
For us to be able to guarantee that peace, as we did 1950-90, we will need to spend 5% of GDP on defence once more.
We know what to do. We’ve done it before. It works.
Well another possible outcome is that we don’t spend 5% on defence and Ukraine doesn’t become Europe’s foremost military power and the current stalemate continues for a long time to come. We’ll discuss in 10 years time maybe, as I imagine we’ll still be here as things are unlikely to improve.
Ukraine is already Europe’s foremost land power. Ukraine’s defence industry is expanding rapidly. That is why Russia tried recently to assassinate the CEO of Rheinmetall. Poland’s defence spending is already 3.8% of GDP and increasing at pace. Attitudes to defence spending are changing in Britain.
We know what to do. It’s happening.
Let’s hope it is in time.
I think Labour pledged to go to 2.5, when they decide we can afford it. Good luck with that.
Labour will go where they think the votes are.
I doubt that many share your enthusiasm for increasing spending quite as much as you and certainly very few on the left – mainly you Tories I would say.
The trend is against you.
Historically, in deed, the left have been sound on defence.
Support for Ukraine is stronger on the left than on the right, Farage being a case in point.
If we’re spending 2.5 in 5 years time I will buy you a box of smarties and another box in 10 years time if we’re anywhere near 5.
I’m done with wishful thinking, would advise others likewise
It is simply a question of where the votes are.
56 million are against Putin.
Putin is driven by expediency.
Ukraine could fold; Russia could implode; Trump nearly died….
Events……
56 million? To whom do you refer?
80% of UK in CT poll in June 2024
Easy to say you’re against Putin until your taxes go up
Saying you support Ukraine is easy – massively increasing defence spending when you’ve promised to “fix” the NHS is something else, as is putting your hand in your pocket to contribute as a taxpayer.
The Labour adviser has made it clesr that fixing the NHS can only be done through improved productivity. Recent increases in funding have worsened productivity. It’s not about the money.
Defence is no different.
Yeah Labour and governments in general are great at improving productivity
Maybe you should vote Labour next election – join JohnK as a left-wing “lockdown sceptic”.
I will never vote Labour.
‘Ukraine’s defence industry is expanding rapidly”. Isn’t Russia successfully taking out those industries with precision bombing and the same with arm’s shipments as fast as they are manufactured or transported to the front line?
The rhetoric from the other EU leaders is very aggressive. How long before it drives a rabid EU proponent to try to secure a “peaceful” outcome in the style of Crooks.
Who does Orban think he is trying to bring peace through dialogue.
If Munich taught us anything is that every attempt to avoid conflict or bring it to an end by peaceful means is appeasement.
I work with a simple rule. If we in the west are fighting them, then they are fascists who hate us for our freedoms and want to destroy us. And anyone who doesn’t go along with us is an undemocratic dictator, even if he was elected by a healthy majority of his population.
Everyone knows that Putin is just dying to move into the second phase of his fiendish plan which is to invade the whole of Europe. If we allow a peace deal to be reached in the Ukraine, he’ll invade Poland the following day. And then what are we going to do, reach a peace deal there too? He’ll take the Baltic states. And then Finland, and Sweden and Norway. And when he’s done with those he’ll reconquer all the eastern bloc countries. And when he’s done with those he’ll go for western Europe, which is what he really wants. And finally he’ll invade Britain and reach his final objective which is move into Buckingham Palace and lord it over of the entire European continent. That’s what will happen if we don’t stand up to him in Ukraine. Well, not us, Ukrainians, but same thing.
Sometimes I think we fought the second world war for nothing. Well, not us, our grandparents but same thing.
Love the satire.
Putin takes over the whole of Europe – and then what.
Love it. Subjogates 750 million people. Lol.
(My apologies if it really is satire, difficult to tell these days.)
“Everyone knows that Putin is just dying to move into the second phase of his fiendish plan which is to invade the whole of Europe.” Pure hypothesis. Just how do you know what Putin is thinking and planning?
PTB — Powers That Be. So what is the R?
As with many a war, the EU / NATO / West / USA needs a war. Wars generate money especially to the arms supplying countries. Look how much USA made of out of selling arms and giving loans up until the Japs were daft enough to bring America into the war.
Anyone else recall that Britain only finished paying the American’s back about 5 years ago? Think of the interest on that one.
The major hope here is Trump: the only President for heck knows how many years who has never fired one bullet let alone started a war. Ukraine would not have happened under him. Oban is bang on the money.
The paedophile known as Senile Joe started shooting after 30 days. The Ukraine war goes on.
The EU economy makes most third world South American economies look pristine. The Governments of the main two are a mess. They need a boost and to be seen to be doing something.
Then there is the “OOPS!”: Hamas murdered Israeli’s and now the plan has been unhinged. The EU can’t be seen to back down but also it no longer has attention on Ukraine. So, effectively, it needs a war more than it did before because public opinion has turned to hating Jews.
What do politicians always do when they pronounced on something? They push ahead regardless. As one infamous President of the EU said “We do it anyway”.
Plenty of us have been saying and posting the same thing on line for months, and been roundly abused for our pains.
I’ve seen a number of posts on here talking about “Russian Coal”, “Russian Oil”. That is completely and utterly missing the point. The reason for trying to bring Russia down is because of its immense success from North Africa to Asia.
Recently Russia’s GDP increased by 3.5%. How did they do that? How does the EU compare? How does the UK compare?
Influence throughout those regions really is the major reason for prolonging a Western caused war. The countries that caused it don’t give a flying batshit for Ukraine; most didn’t know how to spell Chicken Kiev. They want to slow Russia down.
As Putin said “We are used to it”.
The EU, NATO, UN, America and the UK want war they don’t want peace, they have all over reached in terms of the removal of democracy, they have all overspent and ruined the major western economies, they are all anti free speech, pro censorship, and the scum, i.e. you and me are not responding appropriately. In the end they ALWAYS take us to war, as that wipes out, it once again allows for supreme control, and it allows for lots of money to be made for the same old same old families and corporations, The children of these people are rarely if ever on the front line.
America wants to destroy Russia and overthrow Putin. Putin is no hero but its up to the Russian people to decide who they want to run the country, unlike the Ukraine where the Americans rid the country of the elected leader and put in Zelensky and now American corporations are buying up the Ukraine, likwise that would be the plan with Russia is my opinion.
We don’t make peace with our friends only our enemies. Only our children, our partners are sent off to fight the wars entered into and kept forever war by the few who always gain and never pay the price. Time to refuse.
Oh and in case you haven’t been paying attention, remember the soft run game planning for the Covid plandemic, sponsored by Bill and Melinda. Well guess what in October this year there is another planning session of the great and those good guys again. This time its Bird flu, so watch out for the next round of Lockdown and show us your papers tyranny whilst Milliband and co destroy the bird flocks of our farms, just like Blair and Ferguson did with Foot and Mouth. Will you all play along again?
I didn’t play along in the first place. I saw a photo posted the other day with an anti-war march saying, No More Wars For The Rich. That photo was from the 60s or 70s and shows how long it takes to wake people up.
It’s clear that the downtickers have taken over the DS algorithms.
Or I’m living in a parallel universe.
FFS, DS go back to the way you were.
Even Ukrainians want diplomacy.
Razumkov Center poll: 43.9% of Ukrainians believe that the time has come for peace negotiations with Russia.
35% disagree with this, 21.1% found it difficult to answer.
Only civilians were interviewed.
83% of respondents disagree with the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts within their administrative borders.
Also, 84% of respondents are against giving these oblasts to the Russians.
99.9% of the residents of the oblasts want to remain part of Russia.
You’re out of date:
‘It is worth noting that it is not the west of the country, but the east, which is under daily attack by Russian aerial bombs, that is the one that is most reluctant to negotiate.
Only 33% of residents of the east of Ukraine are ready for negotiations, and almost as many (34%) are against them. And almost as many (32%) are still undecided’
And that’s just the civvies……
No, it is you that is out of date.
They didn’t survey those in the far east of Ukraine.
Borders are just lines on a map which move from side to side and up and down with history.
It is not fictitious borders which define a country but the people.
If 97% of those people want to belong to the country next door because they have been persecuted and killed by a new fascist regime created by a US coup of 2014 then so be it.
Homes, family, farms and industry of millions of people cannot all move to the neighbouring, safe haven country of choice.
It is easier to move the lines on the map to accommodate the “will of the people”.
Laws and countries can be created by precedent.
Nato countries “invaded” The Balkans where new countries were created.
Balkan countries had referendums and declarations (just like Crimea and Donbass) where new countries were created with the agreement of Nato countries.
Nato countries “invaded” Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya.
The UN is a tool of the US and Nato who bully other countries to agree to their sanctions and resolutions or bully them to disagree with the “will of the people” in countries which do not suit US foreign policy.
Russia’s special military operation was totally justified and similar to what Nato countries have done in the recent past.
Those living in the new territories in east Ukraine probably now by a margin of 99.9% still want to be part of Russia.
It’s nice to see something from someone who actually knows what happened in Ukraine. I wonder how much support Western Governments would have if the Sheeples realised they are supporting a Fascist regime that denied the vote to ethnic Russians and banned all ethnic Russians (a third of the country) from public office?
It doesn’t help that the UK has banned RT, Sputnik etc.
They are obviously biased towards Russia but often interview Western geopolitical analysts who impart a great deal of truth which might persuade the gullible Western audiences that Russia are justified in their actions.
That is why they are banned, they are afraid of the truth.
Orban is one of the few Leaders in the the EU that is fighting for freedom against Global government, engineered wars, mass immigration, and vaccine abuse.
Public opinion is there to be manipulated not listened to. This ability to control the narrative has been increasingly lost as social media has expanded. Thus this is the reason for all the censorship, not to protect people from hate speech.
Negotiate what exactly? Are you so naïve to believe a peace treaty with Russia would be worth the paper it is written on?
Did Western leaders honour the Minsk 2 agreement.
You’re clearly naïve enough to be unaware of the facts in Ukraine I’d guess. Russia stands by agreements, the Western never does. See Smudger’s comment and look up Minsk 2.