New research published in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) has found that wearing a face mask causes children to inhale dangerous levels of carbon dioxide that becomes trapped behind the mask.
The peer-reviewed research letter from Dr Harald Walach and colleagues found that the air masked children inhaled contained more than six times the legal safe limit for closed rooms as set down by the German Federal Environmental Office. The safe limit is 0.2%, whereas the air the masked children inhaled contained over 1.3% carbon dioxide.
The effect was worse for younger children, with one seven year-old child inhaling air with 2.5% carbon dioxide, over 12 times the safe limit.
The study looked at two types of mask, FFP2 masks and surgical masks, and found no significant difference between the two.
The authors explained that this alarming result likely explains the complaints from children who wear face masks for long periods.
Most of the complaints reported by children can be understood as consequences of elevated carbon dioxide levels in inhaled air. This is because of the dead-space volume of the masks, which collects exhaled carbon dioxide quickly after a short time. This carbon dioxide mixes with fresh air and elevates the carbon dioxide content of inhaled air under the mask, and this was more pronounced in this study for younger children.
This leads in turn to impairments attributable to hypercapnia. A recent review concluded that there was ample evidence for adverse effects of wearing such masks. We suggest that decision-makers weigh the hard evidence produced by these experimental measurements accordingly, which suggest that children should not be forced to wear face masks.
With face masks shown to have little to no impact in reducing infection or transmission, this suggests the policy is all pain and no gain and should be abandoned without delay.
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About time something like this came out. Although anyone with half a brain cell would have already come to this conclusion.
Yet more evidence though to prosecute those responsible for this assault upon the youngest, eldest and weakest in society.
Hadn’t read your comment when I wrote mine – similar line of thought! There have to be criminal prosecutions because the people advising and in charge know what the evidence and what risks they are taking with people’s health.
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It seems that those who forced everyone to wear face masks don’t even have half a brain cell.
Theyve certainly done more damage to the general population than the usual uni-brain individuals.
Common sense, pointed out at the time, dismissed then as “speculation”, “not scientifically established”.
A year later after most of the damage has been done: “old news”.
And the “disease” downgraded in March …….2020; you could not make this up.
Good science is welcome, but this isn’t news – just confirmation.
And of course these findings will also apply to adults as well. You now have a very valid reason not to wear a mask in a shop, pub, restaurant etc…
It feels like that, doesn’t it? After a short time in one I feel short of air, and rising panic. Lucky I’ve stopped.
Especially in the heat of summer. In Germany we have to wear FFP-2 masks, which make it even harder to breathe.
Because a mask will cause you harm… which is why that is one of the exemptions. They are there to prevent the government being sued, not for the benefit of the exemptee.
“This mask has been harming me – there is scientific proof”
“We told you, you were exempt – not our fault if you didn’t look”
People are FAR too obedient in this country.
I didn’t appreciate just how much that’s true until this shitshow started. Whenever I watched TV programmes about Nazi Germany, I thought people would never tolerate that here. Now I know that they would and just how easy it is to manipulate them.
The dog and I are presently sitting in a pub garden. Not far from me are a group of young man having a discussion about how they enjoyed unprotected sex, on a trip to South East Asia. But sitting outside a pub in the UK, they are all wearing masks and talking about when they will get ‘The Vakseen’! I despair. I really, truly do.
I hope they got a dose of something! They seem to have the same attitude to unprotected sex as being jabbed with an experimental gene therapy!
Shame on them. The kind of low-life who emit pavement pizza, fly-tip and boo visiting football teams.
They actually have no idea of the meaning of shame.
I’m a patient, not remotely aggressive person, but I’m finding it more and more difficult not to lose it when I see people with masks on outside, especially if they’re alone, and they say things like, ‘You can’t be too careful’, or, ‘It’s got to help’, etc.- but then don’t see the mask as a potential bio-hazard. How do they work this out? It’s as if they think the mask has some magical properties that simply make the virus disappear, which then makes me wonder if they should be allowed out at all…
Why do you ask them, when you know that their replies might cause you to “lose it”?
Why do you expect the Person in the Street to have a basic grasp of virology? If a well qualified Media Medic tells them that they should wear a mask and practice Distancing, that is what most people will do.
My local Co-op requires me to wear a mask in order to shop there (but then, so do all the supermarkets). So, I wear one – Big Deal!
And the staff are masked, when in the shop. Behind the scenes, not so much.
She didn’t say she asked them anything – perhaps she merely overheard what they were saying, as we all do. And you don’t need a basic grasp of virology to realize that wearing masks is most likely to be bad for you in lots of ways – all you need is common sense.
“Common” Sense?
Hoi Polloi?
Really?
Name me the ‘lots of ways’ in which wearing a mask is “a potential bio-hazard”.
Then we could determine whether someone without a basic grasp of virology could indeed know of them.
Crickets
I don’t think we used to be so malleable.
I think we would have been if they had access to the same psychological and communications resources in the past.
Episodes of mass hysteria and irrationality have been documented throughout history, and follow a pattern unchanged across time except for the dymanics of the available communications media.
How long do they last, typically, I wonder? When can we expect people to regain their senses?
I suspect alot of the contributors on here received an education that taught you how to think not what to think. Another of Bliars legacies.
It’s always seemed to me to be pure common-sense that wearing a mask for more than a very short time cannot be good for the health. Absolutely incredible that people have accepted this for their children!
The problem is reports like this are censored from the public, who on average rely on mainstream media. They have been conditioned to think that anything not covered by the BBC or Guardian is “misinformation”
The MSM censorship of any item that challenges the narrative has been one of the most chilling aspects of the last 16 months.
When and if it ever gets to Nuremberg the owners of the media should be standing in the dock as well!
Don’t worry: the whitewash – sorry, inquiry – won’t be getting outside Westminster let alone all the way to Nuremberg.
I live in Nuremberg. There’s a street here called ‘Human Rights Way’, Straße der Menschenrechte. Way of Human Rights – Wikipedia .
The monument is supposed to be ‘a repudiation of past crimes and a reminder that human rights are still regularly violated’. The Nuremberg International Human Rights Award is awarded on the site every two years.
Fat lot of good that does. Hardly anyone knows anything about it and shoppers walk past while the pigeons flutter around and s-it on the pillars.
Next time I go there, I think I’ll hang some masks on the pillars.
They are, in every respect, dire things, with unpleasant consequences, both physical and mental. This naturally appeals to SAGE’s favourite psychopath, the Communist Michie.
They are pushed as being something people wear as a matter of course, in some Far Eastern countries. Until the Chinese unleashed this virus, the most common reason for wearing them was undoubtedly high levels of air pollution in urban settings, and they were not mandatory. Of course, some may have chosen to wear one as a supposed defence against airborne infections, but I don’t think that you’d find many outside larger towns and cities wearing them, at least until now.
Also as defence against creepers on public transport taking photos of young Japanese woman apparently, technically a health issue I suppose, a mental one but still. Yeah, no, clutching at straws, they do fuck all.
This is true. I have seen vids and pictures of shopping malls and sports events in East Asia (Japan, China, South Korea) prior to Covid and masks were seldom seen so the notion that they wore them to prevent disease – or be polite – is not quite right. They are, as you say, used chiefly for air polution reasons. I observed the same in London in that Asian tourists would often wear masks when out and about near busy traffic but would not wear them in shops, museums and other public indoor places.
It boils my piss when people say ‘It’s only a mask’. NO. IT. BLOODY. WELL. IS. NOT.
It’s a pointless symbol of your oppression and you are complicit by wearing it. Throw them out.
That’s the nub of the matter, bang on. Everything else is irrelevant pettifogging.
I am not going to waste valuable time arguing the toss with store managers who also have better things to do with their time!
I put the mask on at the threshold when entering and remove it as I exit.
The only occasion that I wear a mask, now that local public transport no longer requires them.
Neighbours neither mask nor distance.
More evidence for the criminal prosecutions that will have to take place in due course.
I very much doubt that will happen.
How do you square these two positions:
1) Masks are ineffective because the virus particles (comprising hundred of molecules) can be inhaled or exhaled through or around the mask.
2) Masks nevertheless are able to trap exhaled CO2 (3 atoms, 1 molecule) and starve the wearer of O2 (2 atoms, 1 molecule).
It just does not make sense.
So as much as it may be tempting to seize upon this study and say “Aha! I knew it”, the above ought to be addressed, along with confirmation bias.
It concentrates the CO2 that you’re breathing out, it obviously doesn’t block it completely or you’d be dead in a few minutes.
This looks like a mott & bailey argument.
It’s a good question that doesn’t have an intuitive answer, like so much to do with viruses.
They make it harder for your lungs to fully expel all the carbon dioxide that they create. It’s not about it being filtered, it’s that the additional work getting past the mask means that you don’t expel it fully.
If this is true, is it not also true for virus particles, in which case it would reduce aerosol transmission?
No. Your lungs are always producing carbon dioxide. The same volume of CO2 still escapes with a mask, but it just leaves a higher concentration in your lungs at any time than would normally be there, were it easier to expel.
This statement is contradictory.
At a given temperature (37degC) and a given ambient air pressure (1bar for sake of argument), there can only be a given “concentration” of gas, so that’s basically fixed over short periods of time.
If a higher concentration of CO2 is being left in your lungs, the only possible explanation is that you are breathing out proportionately more of the N2, O2, water vaour etc that was in your lungs, but somehow not the CO2.
Why would that be?
I see we’re still voting down comments that ask awkward questions and speak inconvenient truth around here… good to know life has some constants 🙂
How does that work when breathing into a paper bag during an anxiety attak then?
Agree absolutely; Especially where your blood chemistry is imbalanced due to a certain virus, not SARS COV 2; Breathing back in expelled CO2 in this instance restores the pH level of the blood and unlocks the muscle rigidity caused by the bug – if unchecked and no one around to help you, because it starts in the extremities namely your hands which become useless, it can progress to your lungs and then oxygen starvation may kick in. Happened last week in my family, we know what to do, situation averted.
Really, you are overcomplicating it. If you close all your windows and have an indoor barbeque, then you are going to suffocate. Open the windows and doors fully and you might survive. The CO2 is still going to get outside of your house whether the windows are open or not, it’s just that you will have a significantly higher concentration in your house. Get it?
Edit: this is a repy to AidenR, not TheBluePill … sorry.
Eh?
The transfer of CO2 out of the blood, and O2 into the blood (in and out of the heomoglobin) is an equilibrium reaction driven by differing partial pressures (effectively. CO2 partial pressure in the lungs is lower than in the blood, vice verse for O2) so CO2 leaves the blood with O2 enters.
Breathing out moves CO2 rich air out of the lungs, breathing in moves O2 rich air back in (OK, the relative differences are small. but sufficient). In effect it is still an equilibrium mechanism, because the exhaled air mixes with the air that you next inhale,
If you put a barrier between yourself and the outside air (eg., a mask), it impedes the air flow. There is less mixing, so the equilibrium reaction does not progress so far. When you inhale there will be a higher remaining concentration of CO2 than without a barrier.
As the partial pressure of CO2 in the air in your lungs rises, at some point it will become high enough that the net outflow of CO2 when exhaling matches the rate of CO2 production in your body. On the basis of the results, this is around 1.2% for masked children, which is well above the 0.2% safe level. For reference, the CO2 content in free air is around 0.04% (400ppm).
Problems actually start at around 2%. I’m a caver, when cave digging we can sometimes get high CO2 levels; you can tell when that happens. Difficult to get your breath back, plus headaches. Not so much fun then.
Excellent explanation for the dimwhit. More simply, if a mask is such a benefit evolution would have provided one by now :-))
Are you really suggesting that it is impossible to create a mixture of gases in different proportions? I suggest that you have totally misunderstood the physics of mixing and are getting confused with partial pressures of gases in a mixture.
One of the jobs of an anaesthetist is to adjust the proportions of different gases to maintain the patient. According to your argument this is impossible.
That’s really not what I’m saying at all. But no matter… I mustn’t be expressing myself effectively.
I’ve found the answer to the question.. it’s sort of alluded to above, but I understand it now.
I’ve read a couple of other papers, which seem to agree – to an extent – with these results and explain them in a way that makes more sense to me.
This one was helpful: https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-021-06056-0
So I’ve learned something today, and I apologise to those whose explanations I’ve failed to grasp, but I’m still troubled by several potential objections to this study.
But the truth is none of it matters. These studies showing this and that just promote pettifogging arguments, but what any of these studies say is completely irrelevant in comparison to the simple inhumanity of forced, prolonged mask wearing of adults, children, everyone. That doesn’t need to be proven with science – it’s a moral matter.
I think if you have to depend on any of these studies to fight against masks, you’re going to get bogged down and worn down.
I think the easiest albeit crude explanation is to fart under a blanket. It stinks for a bit then slowly goes away. Now imagine you were farting every couple of seconds.
You’ve met my husband?
A simple consideration of the fluxes combined with mixing in the dead volume between the mask and face, and the fact that we exhale out a higher percentage of CO2 than we breathe in (typically 4%) shows that the dead volume will accumulate CO2 until an equilibrium concentration is reached. As a first pass the model suggests this equilibrium concentration is approximately equal to the percentage CO2 we breathe out i.e. 4% if mixing is 100% efficient. If not then the percentage will be lower. The findings of the study are what I would expect never mind the supposed limitations of the testing method.
The key question is what effect the mask has on virus transmission and is this significant. Again one can try a thought experiment. To a first approximation the transmission of viral particles across the mask will depend on the concentration gradient across the mask. An infected person breathing out viral particles will see a high concentration of particles build up in the dead volume thus increasing the concentration gradient across the mask and the flux of viral particles to the outside environment. Equilibrium will be reached when the flux of particles across the mask is the same as that being breathed out by the person. If it is lower the concentration will build up behind the mask until it is the same.
It is like filling a leaky bucket. On first filling the level rises because the leak rate depends on the level of water (water pressure) in the bucket. As the level rises the leak rate becomes faster and at some point equilibrium is established with the leak rate the same as the rate of filling.
I don’t think anybody is saying that CO2 can’t be exhaled through the mask; merely that it does it inefficiently – a bit like taking a shower in a bath where the plug is a bit blocked up. You end up standing in a load of water after a while even if most of the water has still drained out.
For a mask to be effective against Covid, it really does have to be blocking the release of the virus and not just allowing a bit of a build up behind the mask.
What you seem to be saying is that the piece of cloth attenuates exhalation of CO2 enough to be of consequence, but does not attenuate exhalation of virus particles enough to be of consequence.
Do I understand you correctly?
It does attenuate virus particles, and they can get trapped in the moist fibres of the mask, increasing the concentration of virus that you inhale, along with the higher CO2, thereby potentially increasing your viral load.
I don’t understand the desperate need to hide behind cod-science explanations like this.
That’s the job of covidians.
Be better than them. Just be honest enough to say ‘I’m not wearing a mask, because I don’t believe they are a net benefit’ and don’t be tempted to dress up your perfectly rational human response in garb provided by whatever science-junk fits the bill today. It doesn’t legitimise our position, it allows the covidians to undermine it where it would otherwise be perfectly morally defensible.
Science is littered with peer-reviewed papers that are shown to be unreproducible garbage. But one comes along that says something ‘we all suspected for ages’ and it gets seized upon uncritically. It’s not a good look.
If you can be bothered to look there’s 100 years worth of science showing they don’t work even in a surgical environment. That’s why Fauci, Witty and other collaborators are all on record as saying “don’t bother”.
The CO2 particles don’t get trapped behind the mask. They will move around and escape the sides of the mask or go through the pores, just like aerosolised viral particles. They will then get replaced by more exhaled CO2, in combination with 02 etc. of course… but the point is the overall concentration of CO2 in this cavity is higher than would be desired upon the next inhalation.
There is no infererence that these gases are static.
It’s not a complete seal, or has been pointed out, you’d die from asphyxiation. They concentrate the CO2, just as they can concentrate viral, fungal and bacterial antigens on their surfaces which you then breathe in.
You are totally ignoring the time element. Neither gases nor viruses pass through a barrier instantaneously. No one is suggesting that all virus particles pass through the mask just the same way that not all CO2 passes through the mask. There will be a build up of virus and gas concentration inside the mask, and some of both will pass through.
Over time a substantial part of both and virus will pass from the wearer to the outside world, which renders the mask only marginally effective in preventing virus spread (the figures I have heard indicate just a few percent) kept inside the mask, and low and behold the increase in CO2 is also a small percentage.
Quick back of the envelope calculation from wikipedia numbers.
Air: ~0% CO2
Exhaled breath: 5% CO2
CO2 concentration of air with mask on: 1% CO2
So, if 1/5 (20%) of the air you breathe out is breathed back in, you get a 1% CO2 concentration. 80% of the air you breathe out is not trapped in the mask for each breath that you take. So if you are breathing out coronavirus with a mask on, you manage to inhale 20% of the coronavirus laden aerosol that you just breathed out. Assuming that the concentration of the coronavirus in the aerosol doesn’t just increase with each breath that you take, it would take approximately five breaths to spew out as much sickness as you spewed out without a mask in four breaths.
The German word is Totraumvolumen. This was the original concern of Eugen Janzen that made him think and investigate that CO2 concentration could become a problem for children in particular when wearing masks due to the masks often being too big for them and their lung function and breathing pressure lower than adults.
Last out, first in. The mask fills with exhaled CO2, which is inhaled next time before external air gets in. Simplzz.
Recommend the Swiss Doctor to you, among other scientists…
You are quite right.
I adjust the mask’s nose clip to allow the passage of fresh(ish) air in and CO2 laden breath out.
Consequently, neither I nor my wife have ever felt “Short of Air, and Rising Panic”, no matter how long our shopping spree may have been.
As for breathing in viruses?
It would seem that our lifestyle works as well for Covid as it has done for flu, etc.
(Fingers crossed!)
So wear them then Fred- no one is saying you can’t, just that you shouldn’t be able to force others to. You are lucky if you do not feel short of air or rising panic- and you are presumably a magician if you can ‘adjust’ your mask to allow fresh air in and CO2 out- but then what’s the bleedin’ point of a mask if it allows your potentially disease ridden breath straight out?
Presumably you have never worn a mask.
My “cheapo” mask attempts to reduce the ingress of fresh air around the nose by means of a flexible strip that you adjust to the contours of your face. Thus one breathes in and out, mostly, through the mask.
However, adjusting the strip to leave a small gap on either side of the nose, provides an easier alternative path for the flow of fresh and stale air. Thus one is never “Short of Air” and does not feel “Rising Panic”.
I wear a mask when I shop in stores or travel on public transport.
I do not wish to pointlessly debate the pointlessness of mask wearing with store assistants/managers and bus drivers.
Thank you permitting me to wear one, but I would rather not.
But this type of thing has been denied by advocates of masks for months. We were all told that we were stupid for thinking that wearing these masks were bad for our children’s health.
“Alejandro Keller, PhD in Natural Sciences | University of Applied Sciences and Arts Northwestern Switzerland
The authors use an CO2 incubator analyzer (0-20%) that has an accuracy of 1% of the range (i.e. 2000ppm) and a time response T^90<=20 seconds for CO2. This device is unsuitable for measuring the transient concentrations during the respiration processes. A normal respiration cycle has a duration of 3 to 4 seconds. Thus, it is impossible to separate the concentration of CO2 in inhaled and exhaled air using this device. This also explains why the authors measure average concentrations of around 2700ppm-CO2, way above the ambient value of 740ppm, even when no mask is present.
The authors refer to the dead volume behind the mask as the main problem. The relevant data would be the comparison between this dead volume and the lung capacity and/or the volume of one respiration cycle. The lungs never collapse completely during respiration. Together with the rest of the respiratory airways, the respiratory system has also a dead volume that is much larger than the dead volume between the mask and the face. The comparison of these volume is of extreme importance for the discussion and may change the author’s conclusions.”
Thoughts?
Seems highly reasonable to me.
I think this highlights one of several potential problems with the study.
I instinctively want to agree with the study as I hate the masks for a hundred reasons, but this smells like advocacy science, which is not objective and therefore as much as I want to grab it with both hands, I cannot do so in good conscience.
I agree. I think the conclusions could be correct despite flawed methods.
There’s a good collection of studies and arguments cited on SWPRS.org on why masks suck.
Their data also looks like trash, so it would be safer to dismiss the study than try to make conclusions from it.
Their data did point to elevated CO2 concentrations being higher in small children. This would indicate that idea that the dead volume created by the mask vs the volume of air inhaled/exhaled/trapped by a child’s airway may be worse than with a larger adult.
After looking over the data some more, the baseline CO2 concentration without a mask of around 2700ppm is still quite a bit less than the average concentration of 13,000ppm measured with a mask. Even if you just assume that all they can measure is the average of the inhaled and exhaled air, the concentration of CO2 is still fairly elevated. Also, they were actually capturing samples of the air during inhalation and exhalation.
Simples, stick a sampling probe from a standard gas sampler used for confined space entry, under the mask next to the nostril.
Take a continuous reading.
Record levels of 02, Co2 CO found.
Ask whether the levels recorded meet the legal definition as specified by the HSE of a safe working environment OR whether the levels recoded meet the HSE definition of an Oxygen Deficient Atmosphere?
The sceptics have been saying this since at least last summer.
Be careful when referring to safe levels of exposure to carbon dioxide.
The HSE state that the maximum concentration for eight hours continuous exposure is 5000 parts per million/0.5% in a closed room, at 15000 ppm/1.5% it is 15 minutes.
Apollo 13 reached 6% (60,000 ppm) during their Lithium Hydroxide problem.
Masks are nothing but a psych op and politics. They are absolutely pointless and should be resisted at all costs. Their implementation makes me the most angry.
I watched folks at a pub last night putting them on and taking them off, messing with them, shaking them, putting in pockets, smoothing them out on the table with their hands, leaving them on the table. All of these folks didn’t have any virus to pass on but should they have done they had smeared it all over their hands, their clothes, their seats, the table, the menus, their glasses, each other. Utter bullshit!!!
I’ve witnessed men putting their masks on to visit the gents toilet but then leaving without washing their hands. What does that say?
Hedge fund managers and ither alpha males only wash their hands before taking a pee….
Thank you Matt Hancock, thank you pig dictator and all the other bastards who caused this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57683128
They are all responsible for this child’s death by terrify everyone. Terrible, terrible tragedy.
No sheet Sherlock. How many times has this been said over the past 16 months? Considering we have had “following the science” rammed down our throats there’s been very little science followed just rank propaganda !
Take those damned masks off and any teacher or politician mandating anything that harms us should be arrested!
I feel I cannot trust any of them, and the only thing we are all in together is a pile of lies and shite. I feel we are all on our own, if we survive it is because we managed to find a way to cope with what our government has inflicted upon us.
All it takes is one good man or woman in a position of authority to bring this madness to a halt. Just one decent High Court Judge, if such a person exists.
It doesn’t matter because the Govt and the Covidians don’t give a monkeys about the health and mental well being of kids.
Why it’s taken so long for some educated souls to state the bleedin’ obvious is astonishing.
Science !!!!!!
“Those scientists over there say something I instinctively object to, therefore I’m suspcious. This scientist over here, on the other hand, is saying something we’ve all been saying for months, so lets not scrutinise his work too closely, eh?”
Hi Aidan,
I’m a passionate lockdown sceptic and completely opposed to coercing people into having the vaccine and, to quote one of our fellow LS members – vaccinating children is ‘beyond criminal, beyond insane, it’s beyond criminally insane’. So, that’s where I’m coming from. In light of that, I think it’s unfortunate that members are giving you ‘thumbs down’ for your comments which, in the main, are valid and well made. Confirmation bias is riffe on here (and I’m as guilty of that as the next person), so it’s important that our views are challenged politely, but robustly, as you are doing. It helps everyone to think more carefully and more critically and really be in possession of the facts when confronted by a pro-lockdown and/or pro-face nappy zealot. I’ve given your comments the ‘thumbs up’ because it’s clear to me that you’re saying what you are for all the right reasons and you’re not just here to trigger people for the fun of it – or for some other nefarious reason. So, I say: ‘keep calm (as you are doing) and carry on!’ 😉
We have a couple of grammar schools in our area and all I see when the kids are coming out at home time or lunchtime, is face masks on nearly all of them. Its like it doesn’t occur to them that they can remove them…or is a fashion or peer pressure?
Always knew the wearing of facemasks would be bad for your health not to mention a completely pointless excercise – thats why I was determined never to wear one since day one. Some masks I see people wearing are downright filthy – god knows how they think that that bacteria-infested rag over their mouth and nose is going to benefit them never mind protect them? Mind you – I must confess I sympathised with mask-wearers to begin with – the government propaganda was ruthless – but now I just think mask-wearers are complete and utter morons – everytime I see someone wearing a mask outside in that glorious sunshine I think ‘you dickhead’.
Although it is dying out there are still some on the seafront walking along with a mask on. The psychology of it is fascinating, why. Until last year fresh sea air had always been the panacea of all illness
Last year we were in Scarborough and the North Sea breeze was quite brisk. I and my son went for a speed boat ride and were told we had to wear masks. I laughed, because I thought he was joking- but no, it was the law apparently. I laughed some more, I mean how ridiculous, and asked what I should do if we got swept overboard- should we hold on to our masks? A woman in front of me turned round quite angrily and said, ‘If someone in front of you on the boat has the virus and they cough and it blows backwards into your face, you’ll be glad you’re wearing one’. I laughed so hard I don’t know how I didn’t choke. But no one else did- they all wore them without argument. At what point does one just give up and accept that most people really are gullible morons?
Child abuse.
Sadly, it took them ages to come up with this result.
Pediatrician Dr. Eugen Janzen came up with the concern, idea and request for a trial about a year ago already.
He was villified for it.
Late last year the Uni Witten-Herdecke finally caved in and promised to investigate.
Initial findings were published and confirmed the concerns but were ignored, of course.
I doubt this final study will have an effect.
It would mean admitting that governments, headmasters and parents just tortured their children.
And more or less the same effect is present in masked adults too, admitting that that is dangerous and was a mistake would shatter their whole universe.
Facemasks for everyday use are a sick concept and those who pushed them on the population are sick
This had been my hunch all along. Someone presented a Facebook post linking to a study conducted in a hospital that showed that oxygen levels were completely safe in the hospital workers despite wearing face coverings for long shifts. My immediate thought was, “but when you feel breathless, it’s not primarily because of the lack of oxygen, but rather the build up of CO2”.
Long exposure to CO2 has some pretty nasty consequences: Check out the link.
https://www.kane.co.uk/knowledge-centre/what-are-safe-levels-of-co-and-co2-in-rooms
This is literally an assault on our children (and anyone forced to mask up for that matter).
Hardly a surprise. The official line, supported by convenient research, suggests that face masks don’t lower oxygen saturation levels. Meanwhile, back in the real world, hospital staff wearing PPE for extended periods report anecdotally that they have measured their own sats before and after a shift and noted a significant drop.
Then again, the official line, supported by convenient research, suggests that face masks reduce the spread of SARS-Cov-2 but there is not a shred of real world empirical evidence of mask wearing by the general public making any difference whatsoever.
You pays your money, you takes your choice.
It’s good to see stronger scientific arguments on the harms caused by the muzzles. However, we know TPTB don’t care about any of that. We know that the real reason for muzzling kids is to normalise the behaviour of conformity without question at grass roots level. It’s all about building future generations of compliant automatons.
Hoping for Nuremberg 2.0 but ready to fight to protect all I hold dear.
OMG! Is this true? Who could possibly have known? Apart from anyone anywhere who breathes in and out? If this is true, what next? I’ve heard a rumour that the Pope is Catholic, but I don’t listen to fake news…
Have you heard what they are saying about bears?
Inventor of mRNA vaccine: Jabs not justified for young, data for informed consent lacking
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/inventor-of-mrna-vaccine-jabs-not-justified-for-young-data-for-informed-consent-lacking
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More crimes against humanity. Are we going to have enough rope and bullets with which to execute these people?
Duh!!!
Sue for damages. No shortage of potential culprits, after all. Some of them might actually some cash in the bank.
I wonder if I could get Bill Gates and Mel B to fund my new scientific venture J.B.O. The Journal of the Bleeding Obvious, run out of a Wetherspoons in Batley. We would guarantee to be at least 12 months ahead of these other Journals of Political Expedience and Fortuitous Timing.
They’ll be saying that there were excellent treatments available for Covid-19 that could have saved thousands of lives, had we not been so invested in waiting for the magic expensive jollop.
Clots!
No shit Sherlock
This is Del Bigtree’s take on the subject, from 11 months ago – https://vimeo.com/437157465
If those brainwashed individuals who believe in the efficacy of masks want to continue wearing them let them get on with it.
But let the rest of us get on with leading our lives without looking as though we’re about to carry out a surgical procedure or rob a bank.
I’m not worried about the ‘risk’ of COVID as I take a risk every day by driving 18 miles to and from my office.
There should be a mass ritual burning of masks and no doubt, in a less liberal country (satire) people could think of some politicians they would like to add to the pyre.