It turns out that life will not return to normal past the “end” of lockdown – even for those who are fully vaccinated. Reports suggest that people who have had two doses of a Covid vaccine will still have to self-isolate for 10 days if they come into contact with someone infected with Covid after June 21st – even if they subsequently test negative for Covid themselves. The Telegraph has the story.
The continued imposition of quarantine for those who have been vaccinated is likely to undermine plans for “normality” to return next month because people may be deterred from going to crowded places if they face the threat of enforced self-isolation.
Workplaces may also be loath to mix vaccinated and unvaccinated staff if a case of Covid could see dozens of staff being forced into quarantine.
In America, fully vaccinated people do not need to quarantine if they have come into contact with someone who has had Covid unless they are showing symptoms, according to guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Conclusions from a review into social distancing rules are due to be announced next week, with a relaxation of the need to keep one metre apart indoors and wear face masks possible from June 21st – the final stage in Boris Johnson’s reopening roadmap for England.
However, well-placed Government sources argued that it was important that the contact tracing system remained in place because it remained possible to catch and pass on Covid if vaccinated. “There is still a risk of getting the virus and spreading it on,” said one.
It means millions of people who have had two doses of the vaccine could still be made to spend 10 days at home if the NHS alerts them that they have been in close contact with an infected person.
Close contact is defined as having a face-to-face conversation, being within one metre for one minute or within two metres for 15 minutes. Not even a subsequent negative test would be enough to allow them to end their quarantine…
Continuing the self-isolation rule will prompt questions about the Government’s faith in the vaccines and whether it is maximising the benefits of its successful jab rollout.
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Must say this makes me chuckle. Also at the back of my mind is the concern that there are longer term side effects of a very odd vaccine to yet make an appearance – could affect large numbers of people, more than covid did.
Everyone vaccinated for covid will DIE, warns French virologist
OMG my 18 year old nephew has had this. If this is true [I watched the video and he said that people who had been jabbed would die from ADE but didn’t specify a time frame of 2 years] then the genocide/depopulation agenda claims would also be true
Well there’s a very simple way to avoid this – just delete the app?! And block their number, or just claim they’ve got the wrong number? Simples.
I have the NHS test and trace number blocked, the national immunisation centre number blocked and have never downloaded the app/
It’s getting people used to using less energy…
Covid was the ruse for digital ID. Vaccines the enabler of digital ID. Digital ID was the means to control movement and speech.. and energy use aka to reduce supposed man-made climate change.
Used too much electricity or petrol or gas according to information easily obtained by the system? Boom.. house arrest to even out the yearly average. Said something mean or funny or even just logical about trannies or muslims on twitter or in a comment section? Zing. No drive to Wales or Cornwall for you and your kin.
Later will come the energy metering via your compulsory SMART meters.. your laptop and lights and fridge and heating will work ok.. but your powertools and electric car charging won’t. Anything needing more than say 2A (500W) for more than 2 hours will be temporarily disabled.
TBH anything that would disable power tools in my neighbourhood [industrial leaf blowing at 7am in the morning 5 days a week anyone? ] would actually be very welcome
Some bod in the Lords was replying to a question by Ros Altman. His final sentence was something like ‘we must protect the vaccine..’
From what? Disrepute? Exposure as useless?
Freudian slip, misspoke or final evidence of governmental plot loss?
It seems we must protect the NHS, the vulnerable, the vaxxed, the continuing rollout, but not our way of life.
I’ve witnessed a lot of ‘I’m alright Jack’ and smug behaviour in those who’ve been vaccinated.
Not so clever now, eh?
Yes they are very very smug it’s all very very strange.
I’ve a friend who I enjoy good banter with sometimes over drinks. Whenever the topic of covid came up recently he’d joke that he didn’t care now because he’d had the injection. I kept pointing out it didn’t make him immune and he would jokingly get irritated. I could tell he saw the ridiculous side but I could also see he was uneasy about the unreality (or reality) of it all.
I’ve witnessed a lot of ‘I’m alright Jack” throughout my life and I stopped associating with them years ago. I’ve learned my life is better without the ‘I’m alright Jacks’ in it.
A few more won’t make any difference especially since all the past ‘I’m alright Jacks’ are all double dosed now.
Agree re the smug behaviour, problem I find is that people assume that I have had it and start wittering on about those who haven’t.
Wait ’til they all meet the wild virus later in the year. Of course they’ll be counted as covid deaths but hopefully someone will spot the fact that the unvaccinated are not dying.
Even less clever if the predictions of medium to long term adverse events materialise – ADE, autoimmune disorders, inflammatory disorders, Prion disease, and particularly nasty cancers, especially when the NHS is unlikely to provide them with much – or any – treatment.
So, what do you think…is this incompetence or is it a slow, methodical approach to psychologically manipulate us into restrictive social practices for a financial reset (CBDCs), reduction in fossil fuel use…?
A sometimes haphazard but largely effective approach to keeping the fear going because it brings easy power, fame, attention, riches
Yes more snifter than that I would sh I was wrong!
Mr, Feargoeson works for that Imperial College place…
All of the above, and more
The latter. Financial reset is an understatement. Get WDA on Telegram your eyes will be opened!
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I was kind of hoping the T&T will be unnecessary and I can work in a restaurant again, T&T was why I left.
Does not look like it.
They have no faith in the snake oil. Nor does any other government. What they do trust in is their ability to use ‘vaccination status’ as a stick to beat human beings with.
I’m not sure whether they believe in the vaccines or not, but I almost think it’s irrelevant – I think they just want to keep this going forever, so they can’t say “job done” once everyone is jabbed.
It seems the penny has not dropped with some. You’ve Been Framed!
We have heard a lot from well placed government sources and not a lot has turned out to correct. They seem to represent a mechanism for someone inside government registering their disagreement with planned government policy.
bozo to a T but he he might have added
‘Coronovi delenda est’ by way of a Latin tag.
Whenever I see or hear Boris or his accomplices, my mind turns to the mock Latin phrase:
‘Illegitimi non carborundum’.
So, just to be clear Michael, are you in favor of a two-tier society where the vaccinated get to live normal lives and the unvaccinated have to live under medical tyranny, or not?
As a matter of fact, where do the folks at Lockdown Sceptics stand on the matter? Where do all the so-called conservatives and libertarians come down on this essential issue? Are they willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with their readers, or will they be the first ones on holiday while the unvaccinated can’t go to work or open a bank account?
Because for me this is an acid test of whether I want to associate with people. There has been a lot of talk about not wanting to breathe the same air as unvaccinated people. Well, I don’t want to breathe the same air as Fascists. Don’t want to be in the same society as them, don’t want to have the same form of government ruling over me as they do and I certainly don’t want them spouting the same freedom rhetoric as I do when they’re ready to sell themselves out at the first opportunity.
I agree. I have several friends who have disappointed me deeply with their decision to get the gene therapies.
It’s put a barrier between us that I’m not sure can ever be dismantled.
We have also but they don’t live near us thankfully – c’est la vie. 24/7 £‘s millions spent on propaganda. I’ve never known my fellow man to behave this way.
Great post- thanks Matt! Sums it up for most of us I’m sure.
Crikey very well said my husband and I don’t want to be with those people I won’t be – how people can turn on their fellow man – it is awful upsetting. They just can’t see that this isn’t a Vaccine – it is still an gene therapy an experiment. I shan’t start down that rabbit hole. We aren’t sheep stand by your beliefs, stand strong – things will come back round.
Ps. Certainly not their Government people have become hypocrites. I despair
welcome to streamlined population control, maybe now people will wake up?
Maybe the moon is made of green cheese. 🙂
So Track and Trace will continue
That’s a form of Lockdown
Also means I won’t be doing any activity that involves the need to participate in Track and Trace, which is basically everything
All I do is stuff outdoors and socialise in private
I’ve done that all through all the phases of lockdown and that’s all I will do for the foreseeable future
I suppose if masks go on 21 June then that will be a small cause for celebration, but I don’t think I will be needing the champagne
That’s what we’ve been doing, and getting used to it. Got my little family group, on the same page, and making the best of it.
Fantastic make the most – us too
Us two too…..👍👍
Meanwhile, back in the real world, positive tests and “deaths with COVID” are down in the levels of statistical noise.
Who gives a t0ss about these “variants of concern”? They should be of no concern to anyone.
deaths
Oops, posted to the wrong thread, apologies.
just had conversation with local politician on another matter and got a handwringing lecture on the worry of opening up in my region with the indian variant in circulation and the need for everybody to be very careful. I assured him that I was fairly sure we would be ok.
Oh for gods sake get the sick bucket out geepers this country has lost it over
They aren’t a concern to us and our friends it’s all blooming rubbish rubbish sh1t. I hate this Government they are disgusting!!!! Vaccinating children I saw a parliament clip before – I started to rant – it’s sick disgusting.
Has the NHS not got the memo on the PCR’s uselessness, and numerous effective and safe medicinal treatments? This wicked game of charades is being prolonged intentionally, and maliciously.
“Fully Vaccinated People Will Still Have to Self-Isolate If They Come into Contact with Covid after June 21st”
Why wouldn’t they? The poison jab doesn’t confer immunity.
FFS so sick of this shit now.
Your prose has been copied if you don’t mind.
I swear to God, I’ve finally lost what little faith I had left in humanity.
My seven year-old daughter watches a YouTube channel called “Brave Wilderness”, which you may or may not have heard of. The channel is hugely popular, with nearly 20 million subscribers, employs high production values, and comes out of the United States; it’s main presenter is a guy called Coyote Peterson.
A typical episode of the show will have Coyote introducing his children’s audience to a wild animal, sometimes in rather risky situations, and it’s one of those shows that is interesting to adults, as well as to kids.
Whilst the show is, obviously, pro-conservation, it strenuously avoids getting involved in political issues, and is essentially just excellent family entertainment.
Until last night…!
My daughter and I will catch-up on the latest episode at her bedtime, and I simply could not believe what appeared on the screen yesterday.
Peterson and his co-presenter, Mark Vins, were joined via Zoom, from the Oval Office, by President Biden and Dr Anthony Fauci. Biden looked as though he was literally being propped-up at the desk, whilst Fauci played wingman and delivered the key messages.
The message from Biden and Fauci… Read more »
That’s awful, just awful … and very sinister.
Nightmare!
Slightly ironic too, given that Fauci is seemingly looking at going on a very long holiday – it’s being reported in the US that he is looking at properties in 3 countries without extradition treaties….
He should ask Kissenger for advice on that one.
No wonder.
He’s looking to when the Democrats possibly lose control of Congress (next year) and he gets hauled up and prosecuted for aiding and abetting an enemy power in its attempts to undermine the U.S., and his complicity in possible biological warfare waged by said enemy power.
Good grief. The moon one way ticket would be ideal what an evil man
Ps. I can only assume he’s got something on someone……….otherwise……
No. The addition of two daft knee-jerk simplistic ideas don’t create wisdom.
Ugh! Did they just discover two new breeds of weasel or was it rat?
11k upvotes V. 10k downvotes, not at all what Coyote is used to.
Some very pointedly negative comments too.
Biden ‘Get vaccinated to save your friends’, where have we heard that one before ?
This shit is seriously not normal. How can people not be a bit conspiracy theorist when this happens? Just abnormal on an epic scale.
You’re right. It’s seriously abnormal.
Both Biden and Fauci are provable liars. No one should take any notice whatsoever of either of them.
“Hi, I’m coyote Peterson and I’m going to end my career”
“If only fauci hadn’t squandered the trust we had in him by changing his mind a thousand times”
Seen that it’s disgusting not much different to here saw a Parliament clip Just before says Nadim Zahawi- yes jab is safe!!!!! God alrighty save your children get them out of school if you can do whatever it takes.
Propped up 😂 are you sure it was him ha ha and not a model. As for Fauci. Help us all from evil. I’m a cup 1/4 full I’m sure he will be found out for his part in all of this. I’m sure anyone reading will know what I mean! May god have mercy on his soul because it will catch up……..With ALL of them.
Yes, Bella. It seriously disturbed me…
Fauci is unbelievably evil. That horrid smug expression he wears! As though he is some sort of saint, and not, in actual fact, a mass murderer. You can bet your bottom dollar he hasn’t had the vaccine
bound to have got the saline VIP virtue signalling jab
Its a very clear attempt to split the nation and get one group against the other. Its right out of the totalitarian handbook. Whatever lies comes out of Johnson’s mouth, everyone should be aware that this is not going to end by power crazed people willingly giving up power, never has, never will.
Exactly. If you haven’t cottoned on by now that you’re being conned, you never will.
Just don’t let me hear about ‘the wisdom of crowds’ ‘the people’ or ‘common sense’ etc. True democrats have learned a hard lesson – don’t trust a simple majority.
I overheard a woman speaking to another that unvaccinated people should not be allowed to travel. Here we go, I thought the unvaccinated demonised. Here comes Nazi Britain
Ref your last sentence – actually I think we have already arrived
It’s just three weeks to flatten the curve.
It’s just a temporary extension to lockdown.
It’s just face masks on public transport.
It’s just face masks in other public spaces like shops.
It’s just lockdown protestors (and not BLM or XR) who are targeted by the TSG.
It’s just local lockdowns where cases are high.
It’s just another national lockdown to save Christmas, and control the virus in advance of the vaccine rollout.
It’s just cutting Christmas to one day to prevent a second wave.
It’s just a third lockdown to control the second wave.
It’s just self-isolation in case the vaccine, masks, social distancing and hand-washing don’t work.
It’s just a triage and rationing of healthcare because of all the new variants.
It’s just booster jabs, join the millions who are protected against the variants [cue soppy music].
It’s just more booster jabs to protect against all but the newest variants that somehow keep emerging.
It’s just a vaccine passport for international travel and attending large venues.
It’s just a vaccine passport for going to the shops or going to work.
It’s just a microchip so we can have paperless vaccine passports and help save the planet.
It’s just… Read more »
Why can we understand all this but Toby is still denying the WEF’s Great Reset is not the hidden agenda?
I can only imagine how the vaccinated true believers are going to take this latest edict lol.
Maybe one or two of them will even delete their NHS Apps ?!?!?
Who ARE these dozy pillocks with the app? I don’t know anyone who has it
You move in classy circles!
Would be interesting to know the size of the current user base. I would expect this latest BS will help dwindle the numbers some more !
I am not vaccinated and will do no such thing.
If I am feeling unwell, I stay at home.
That’s it.
Good luck with telling me to self isolate! It is everyone’s duty to ignore stupid rules and vote against those who impose them.
I don’t have a smart phone so I have no idea how anyone is going to tell me I need to self isolate
Except in your workplace or any clubs or groups or societies you belong to – you may well be forced to exclude yourself from those if anyone else tests positive
No smart phone and a nom de plume when I’m out and about. Also luckily retired. The only problem is where people actually know me, but how do my neighbours know I’ve been contacted? in which case ignore it.
et moi aussi ebygum
They can do so by text on an old Nokia.
Spot on!
Not remotely surprised by this announcement, of course, and the government is already trying to lay the blame at the feet of the “unvaccinated”. However, those of us who have chosen not to have the jab (and even those who have but who disagree with the government’s strategy) are most unlikely to have the NHS app on their phones, or to submit to testing. So if the “vaccinated” have been in contact with an “infected” Covid 19 person, this is most likely to be another “vaccinated” person, because they are (unbelievably) still getting themselves tested!! (My father, retired surgeon, full “vaccinated” and totally hypnotised by the official narrative, had a bad cold last week and so got himself tested “just to make sure”.) Not sure how they’ll explain away that one….
Well it’s great news for the jabbed, they are still in the same boat as they were pre-jab.
I despair at the stupidity of the people in this country and very, very sadly that includes family.
If I was double jabbed and reading that news I’d be furious
You wouldn’t be chomping at the bit for your booster jab then ?
good point – wonder if they realise [PTB] that they have just shot themselves in foot regarding take up of booster jab with their announcement that the double jabbed will still have to self isolate – that of course assumes that the people we are talking about have got the cop on to realise they have been had. Am sure there will be plenty of nervous nellies who will be so terrified by whatever scaremongering coming down the line that they will be easily enough cajoled into the “third jab” queue
I dread the next series of govt. fear porn ads. I haven’t noticed any recently. There’s plenty of scope with this ‘guidance’ for serious sympathetic voices to intone the new rules.
‘Spare a thought for all the avocados and guava fruit that tested positive with Covid during this pandemic’ !! Great sign from the last march in London.
Just don’t download the stupid app and enjoy life!
It’s not just a question of not downloading the app. People in workplace, education and other settings will still self isolate and others will be forced to stay away if they’ve been in contact with them. And almost certainly, testing will continue to be mandatory or effectively so for a lot of things – access to healthcare, travel.
It’s a clear sign that the coronamadness industry will not be dismantled.
Can we call it the ‘medical-industrial complex’ yet?
I think that’s a pretty accurate analogy in terms of where we are now and the likely future. Military-industrial plays on fears of invasion and desire to appear strong, medical-industrial plays of fears of illness and death.
LS contributors, including me, keep on reporting totally lifeless testing stations and have done since the first were opened. Where are all these people getting tested ?
I know a few people who have mentioned to me they are getting tested at home. I think a lot of people with school age kids send off for LFTs and test regularly. Sometimes people tell me this to make me feel safe. It has the opposite effect.
I’d go further – ditch the smartphone
I think the two halves of your suggestion don’t hang together.
Or do not own a smartphone
How amusing. Will people ever wake up to what’s going on in the UK? Denmark and Israel have cancelled their vaccine passport app already, Florida and Texas never had one. Why is UK blowing its chance to declare the war is won and we can lay down all our (most vanity project) weapons – test & trace / masks / social distancing / lazing at home / fear porn advertising etc.
I’ve seen that claim about Denmark but I’m not sure it’s true. In fact I’ve seen claims from people living in Denmark that it isn’t true. Corona pass schemes seem to be going strong in places like Germany and Austria as well.
Israel has announced that it’s dropping its Green Pass, the one Gove visited Israel to find all about.
Yes. I think that may possibly be very significant, happening as the US also discovers that deliberate Lancet misinformation by top scientists covered up the gain of function research story.
Does Israel now know something which has made it less keen on the jabberwockery in general?
Because we still have the Whu WHO infiltrators running our Government.
Those guys who think we are run by lizards struck on an essential truth, metaphorically expressed.