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“The UK Currently Operates a System of Informed Consent for Vaccinations.” Currently, Minister?

by Will Jones
27 April 2021 6:59 AM

Dr Helen Westwood, a GP whose previous letters and comments have appeared on Lockdown Sceptics, wrote to her MP Sir Graham Brady in March with some concerns about the vaccines and the potential for coercion. She has now received a reply from Vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi that is far from reassuring.

Here’s what she wrote.

Dear Sir Graham, 

Firstly I wish to thank you again for your ongoing hard work in arguing for a more proportionate response to dealing with COVID-19.  The concerns I wish to raise with you today relate to the vaccination program and the proposition of vaccination certificates.

As you know I am a GP. I am horrified by the talk of ‘No Jab, No Job’ policies and vaccination certificates.

The GMC are very clear that “all patients have the right to be involved in decisions about their treatment and care” and that “doctors must be satisfied that they have a patient’s consent… before providing treatment or care”. They also state “doctors must… share relevant information about the benefits and harms of proposed options and reasonable alternatives, including the option to take no action”.

Following interim analysis of the ongoing clinical trials, emergency use authorisation has been granted by the MHRA for both the Pfizer BioNTech and the AstraZeneca vaccines. They are as yet unlicensed. The clinical trials are due to continue until 2023. I find it alarming that much attention is paid to the headline figures of relative risk reduction (RRR) with no mention of the absolute risk reduction (ARR). The RRR of the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine is 95.1% (CI 90.0%-97.6%, p=0.016). Dig a little deeper into the data and you learn that the ARR is only 0.7% (CI 0.59%-0.83%, p<0.001) and the number needed to vaccinate in order to prevent one infection is 142 (CI 122-170).

The WHO published a bulletin written by John Ioannidis, Professor of Medicine at Stanford University, in October 2020. He quotes an infection fatality rate (IFR) for Covid of 0.00-0.57% and in those under the age of 70 it stands at 0.05%.

Given the minimal risk healthy people under the age of 70 face, and the very small absolute risk reductions noted in the clinical trials, I have to ask why are we so desperate to vaccinate the whole population? For healthy, working age people Covid poses less of a risk than seasonal flu. It has never been proposed that we vaccinate the entire adult population against flu; we target the populations most at risk.

The speed at which these vaccines have been developed is truly remarkable. However, I have grave concerns that they are being rolled out on such a scale and at such pace. I am not sure whether you are familiar with the work of Joel Smalley MBA (a member of HART) but he has done some very interesting analysis of mortality data. Whilst correlation (between vaccination administration and rises in mortality) absolutely does not mean causation, the striking patterns he has highlighted suggest to me that now is the time to pause and reflect on the data we have so far. We know from the clinical trials that the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine causes a drop in lymphocytes around seven days post administration; theoretically at least this could pose a risk of intercurrent infection, especially in frail patients. 

Both vaccines in current use in England employ novel technology, namely mRNA (Pfizer BioNTech) and Adenovirus vector (AZ). Human challenge studies have only recently begun. We do not currently know anything about the medium and long term safety of these vaccines. There are concerns about Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) reactions whereby vaccinated individuals may develop more severe disease upon exposure to the wild virus. Theoretical concerns have also been raised about potential cross reactivity with Syncytin-1 which could have effects on placental development and therefore fertility. Until these areas have been studied we cannot advise patients fully. This has significant implications for the informed consent process.

There seems to be some enthusiasm for “vaccination passports” among the population, whether for domestic use or international travel. These have been compared to Yellow Fever certificates that are required for individuals travelling to certain destinations. In reality there is no comparison. The mortality rate for Yellow Fever is in the region of 30%, transmission of Yellow Fever is confined to a relatively small number of countries and there are long term safety data available regarding the licensed vaccine.

Uptake of the Covid vaccine has been notably lower amongst certain ethnic minorities. The reasons for this are as yet unclear, but any policy requiring proof of vaccination has the potential to lead to indirect discrimination.

Professor Chris Whitty has said that doctors and care workers have a “professional responsibility” to get vaccinated. Given that reduction of transmission is not an outcome that is being measured in the clinical trials that are still ongoing, I do not agree with him. Article 6 of the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights states: “Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.”

On November 4th 2020 Theresa May MP made a speech in the House of Commons. She was referring to the closure of places of worship when she said, “My concern is that the Government today making it illegal to conduct an act of public worship, for the best of intentions, sets a precedent that could be misused by a Government in future with the worst of intentions, and that has unintended consequences.” I fear the same could be said for the introduction of vaccination passports.

Personally I have declined this vaccine because of the concerns outlined above. I hope this decision does not mean I am unable to work, visit a restaurant or travel.

Yours sincerely,

Dr Helen Westwood

Here is Nadhim Zahawi’s response, passed on to Dr Westood by Sir Graham Brady.

This is how Dr Westwood replied this week.

Dear Sir Graham, 

Thank you for sending me the letter you received from Nadhim Zahawi MP, Minister for Business and Industry & Minister for COVID Vaccine Deployment in response to the representations you made to him on my behalf. I have attached his letter and my original email.

I must say I find his responses entirely unsatisfactory. He has failed to address any of my concerns. I know he is an intelligent man, so I can only assume that he has been deliberately disingenuous rather than not understanding the questions posed.

I am already aware of the processes involved in the development and testing of new drugs. I understand that Phases 2 and 3 are usually run sequentially but, given the urgency of this situation, a pragmatic decision was taken to run them in parallel. For elderly patients at increased risk from COVID-19 infection I can understand this approach. However, when the program is being rolled out to younger, healthy individuals whose risk-benefit ratio is entirely different, an alternative approach is required. It is imperative that individuals are not exposed to a greater risk of harm undergoing a medical intervention than the risk of not doing anything. Primum non nocere. Since my original email, significant concerns have been raised in a number of European countries about the risk of rare cerebral venous sinus thromboses associated with thrombocytopenia. Young, fit, healthy people who were at negligible risk of COVID-19 have tragically died.

Mr Zahawi has elected not to make any comment on the concerns I raised regarding rises in mortality in the immediate post-vaccination period. This is a pattern that has been repeated in multiple locations, currently most notably in India. I would like to know what research is being done by the UK Government to investigate this.

I note that Mr Zahawi referred to the fact that the UK “currently operates a system of informed consent for vaccinations”. I have two concerns regarding this statement. Firstly, how is the consent fully informed if we do not know the answers to the questions I have raised? I know from first hand experience that individuals attending for Covid vaccinations are not routinely being informed that the clinical trials are ongoing until 2023. Nor is the potential issue of antibody dependent enhancement being discussed. The advice for vaccinating pregnant women changes virtually day by day. Secondly, why does he need to use the word “currently”? Are there plans for mandatory vaccination in future? Already there are discussions about making vaccination compulsory for care home workers. In September 2019 the Guardian reported that Secretary of State for Health Matt Hancock was seriously considering making vaccinations compulsory for state school pupils. I defy anyone not to find this proposal chilling.

With regard to black, Asian and minority ethnic populations, again Mr Zahawi seems to have entirely missed my point. I was not arguing for the prioritisation of these groups; I was pointing out that uptake in these groups has been lower and therefore any certification system has the potential to lead to indirect discrimination.

I agree with Mr Zahawi that an effective vaccine is an excellent way to protect those that need protection, but it also needs to be safe. Given his failure to address the concerns I raised I can only assume he does not have answers to my questions.

Yours sincerely, 

Dr Helen Westwood

Tags: Graham BradyMandatory VaccinesNadhim ZahawiVaccines

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KidFury
KidFury
3 years ago

Typo?

Cunts.

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PissedOffDad
PissedOffDad
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Useless cunts would be more accurate as these 3rd rate fuckwits can’t even be bothered to proof read their own fucking lies. Give me strength.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

I can’t believe they lie. I thought that we could trust them.

SCANDAL NHS Track App Info Given To Police I Warned You Not To Trust Them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSBCCHEwxNU

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

This is the level of petty criminality – there was a typo in the passage as I recall but that was not the lie.

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alw
alw
3 years ago

Yes the virus is real but the whole Covid thing is a scam rewarding friends of those in high places. There are cheaper alternatives to the so-called vaccines used widely and successfully in third world countries. We need to stop printing money and throwing it into the avaricious black hole that is big Pharma. And what about the £90billion plus spent on testing?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  alw

So far as kids are concerned, it’s fairly irrelevant in nearly all cases anyway – they simply won’t get ill so don’t need the “vaccine” or any other treatment.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  alw

Don’t think the US is a third world country …yet.

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Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
3 years ago

Anybody who has been vaccinated has not been truly informed.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

Yes indeed. It is not possible to give informed consent for the Covid-19 vaccines, which are not vaccines, but depopulating agents.

Last edited 3 years ago by Rowan
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karenishly
karenishly
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

Absolutely correct, I did have jab, at no point did they go through anything with me or mention ADRs or what to do. No one can be truly informed because there isn’t enough data, but the sneaky fuckers can’t even be honest about that. I did consider asking questions but I knew there’d be no point as they all had to stick to a script. My friend had a pretty severe ADR, GP couldn’t have cared less, never told her to report it, nothing.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  karenishly

Too many teen-age kids will start hitting ICUs with Myocarditis…

https://21stcenturywire.com/2021/09/22/new-study-pfizer-vaccine-increases-myocarditis-threefold/

All part of the plan, for the depop/defrag global eugenicists wet dream…

CJ essential reading:

https://consentfactory.org/2021/09/02/the-covidian-cult-part-iii/

And the Hill us anti-COVID-vaxxers will die on:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wnUuvUqx5dkV

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

So true. And you cannot be informed, given that Pfizer are not naming all the ingredients in the vaccine, as per the details on the FDA website

I think I should be able to ask exactly what I’m being asked to inject into my body? Trade secrets or IP concerns are not my problem

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

The video showing German pathologists who have autopsied people who appear to have died from the jab is extremely worrying. On Dr Robert Malone’s twitter feed. Slides showing lymphocytic myocarditis, possibly due to an autoimmune reaction triggered by the spike, what appears to be a possible influence on cancer growth, and vascular damage.
Doesn’t mean this happens to everyone, but people need to know. These were not children. But effects on the heart look as though they are probably spread across all age groups, including the old, where they are more invisible, as Dr Kendrick predicted.
We need a copy of the script they will use to “make sure” they have so called Gillick competence. We will find for sure that consent is not informed.

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LovelyGirl
LovelyGirl
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

https://odysee.com/@BannedFromYoutube:d/Pressekonferenz-Tod-durch-Impfung-Undeklarierte-Bestandteile-der-COVID-19-Impfstoffe:a

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

I will try to get hold of it when they are in the site I work at.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

Dr Ryan Cole’s video testimony is equally chilling.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

We will soon know as ICAN have abided by a reposes from the FDA for a formal request for an unredacted menu of ingredients having refused their legal application for the same.

I don’t care about trade secrets or IP either – patents reveal more than that.

It will either be a massive game changer or damp squib.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

The government is lying to children.
How typical of the government.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

It’s no doubt become second nature to lie now as a first response.

Politicians have never been noted as the most truthful bunch, but over the past year and a half they’ve taken it to a new level – and we have never before seen this sort of epidemic of blatant lying from bodies such as PHE and the NHS.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

They have to lie, if the truth were known these people and many others, not least government ministers and “advisors” would be lynched

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Jean-Claude Juncker profile: ‘When it becomes serious, you have to lie’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10874230/Jean-Claude-Juncker-profile-When-it-becomes-serious-you-have-to-lie.html

This is the only time he told the truth.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Jabeit Macht Frei

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Tell me when vaxxoids stop washing their hands.
Uuuuuuuurgh.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

What they like doing even more is sploshing around gallons of that nasty sanitiser stuff!

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Absolutely – I watched with fascination (and revulsion) as this guy at a hotel I stayed at last week splodged the stuff on, and speedily wrung his hands and lower arms like a professional! He carried his own bottle and splodged it on after every few minutes. It was like a psychological tick, a completely integrated feature to his every day life – as was wearing his face rag and jumping away from anyone who came too close.

Some covidians (I call them the Infected) I despise for being soldiers of this scam, while others like this guy I have terrible pity.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

My MIL uses the loo at our place, where there is water, soap and towels, and comes out and splodges stinky hand sanitiser all over her hands, without thinking about it! It’s crazy and just a bit insulting.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Has nobody told these people that soap and water is far more effective than the sanitiser gunk?

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Soap and water won’t put right an immune system that has been totally fucked up by “vaccines” that aren’t vaccines and were never meant to prevent anything.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Have you given her a copy of the “risk less than 1 in 10,000 study to her, and explained she needs to be emptying Covid bed pans to be at risk from touch?
Having said that, this is typical MiL behaviour. Mine once came to stay, pre covid, bringing a bottle of anti bacterial washing up liquid in her luggage, which she placed at the sink and then took away with her at the end of the stay.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

“It was like a psychological tick”

It is a psychological tick. Deliberately induced.

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Saw a woman doing that in the street the other day, took her ages, after she had come out of the pit of germs that was a shop. I bet it was anti bac as well and not anti virus so a complete and utter waste of time.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Me and my partner had a couple in front of us in a restaurant queue a few weeks ago, absolutely drenching their hands in the stuff. They were taking too long with their madness so we jumped their space. I would normally never do something like this but there’s only so much pandering I’m willing to do to play along with the psychosis of someone I don’t know.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

Few weeks ago I saw a woman push the button of a pedestrian crossing with her elbow (took several attempts), then get out a bottle of sanitiser and rubbed a load on her elbow with the opposite hand. Do these people not realise how ridiculous this sort of thing looks?

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LovelyGirl
LovelyGirl
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I think it’s a combination of fear and gratefulness that finally we have something obvious we can do to make us look morally good in our own and others’ eyes. Sanitise, mask, distance, jab… So the problem isn’t these poor individuals but the meaningless lives they lived before, stemming from much deeper societal problems… We’ve lost touch with what life is about…

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

A complete waste of time either way. She really needs to stop breathing while inside shops – like pearl divers in ancient days.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

They can use as much sanitiser as they want, but the vaccinated are now just time bombs steadily ticking away. Will they go off tomorrow, next month or if they are really lucky perhaps next year. Dead men and women still walking!

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Yeah, I’m sure you will have lots of fun as the lone survivor, just imagine all the ice cream to yourself!

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

That’s a very weird thing to say. Are you quite alright?

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

It’s repressed vaccine regret manifesting as petulance.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

Yet another significant danger of the vaccines (not) reported widely is the design, to evade the immune system to get inside your cells and make the spike, that changes your innate immune response and makes you more vulnerable in your defence from cancers. A senior oncologist in a US cancer clinic reports that ALL his fully vaccinated patients who we in remission are no longer, with the cancers spreading and affecting other organs at a speed he has not seen before.

Exactly why are we doing this to anyone, especially children.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Depopulation.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

You summed it all up in just one word.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I don’t think they are deliberately trying to depopulate the planet. There would be far far simpler ways of doing that. Like letting a nasty virus loose and letting people get on with it, catch it and die.

I think this is more like a WWI situation where a bunch of psychopaths with power to lord it over everyone have an objective in mind and consider any deaths along the way justifiable (not theirs, obviously). We are acceptable collateral damage.

They’re probably trying to take a big leap forward with mRNA technology as a means of radically extending life and with the regulations in place before 2020 they just couldn’t advance quickly enough. Now that they’ve got a green light to rush things out, the technology had been approved and tested on billions. If they get their way they’ll be running tests with “boosters” for as long as they’re allowed to.

I’m pretty sure that’s what is going on. If I had billions and billions, radically extending my life would probably be the only ambition i would consider worth pursuing. I’m sure i could convince myself I’m doing it for the good of humanity.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

A friend of mine has been treated for terminal cancer for a couple of years now and, purportedly, the chemotherapy she was on was helping to slow it down. That was until shortly after she had ‘the jab’ earlier this year. Could be just a coincidence but within a few weeks she was told that the chemotherapy was no longer working and as a consequence the cancer was spreading extensively through her spine and liver, precisely where it had previously been kept in check (as best as these things can be). It may be just coincidence but it did cross my mind that there might be a connection.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

TLR 7/8

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

I don’t want to give any false hope, but

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/gcmaf-and-persecution-david-noakes-lyn-thyer-immuno-biotech

https://www.gcmafplus.com/shop?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqKuKBhCxARIsACf4XuFE66mJX_KMPMEZvXNzQncyI2trctOxMXwgltMWlxn0-gJNLqwTjWYaAiJoEALw_wcB

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Thanks for sharing this. A very powerful article.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Ooof. I bet Pascal Soriot is pissed. First Pfizer get all the high paying US covid vaccine candidates, then they kill off all his oncology patients he was hoping would be buying his Onc drugs

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Was this Sloane Kettering in NYC? I’ve heard from nurses they are witnessing an explosion of cancers.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

More than one US medic – cannot remember if it was Fleming, Ryan, McCullough or a n other – has testified to an increase in cancer markers evident post jab.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Would this be the same “vaccine” that would give us so called freedom once the vulnerable had been vaccinated?

Was it only 3 weeks to flatten the curve before getting back to normal.

Was it only 3 lockdowns to save summer, Christmas, whatever.

Of course wearing useless masks have worked so well, haven’t they.

I’m fortunate enough to say that I’ve never voted for a main stream party this century. The last election I was tempted to vote Conservative but voted for the Birthday Party candidate, yes he’s a joke candidate but at least he’s honest about it.

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PissedOffDad
PissedOffDad
3 years ago

btw re picture, is that Barak jabbing Greta? From one useless prick to another.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  PissedOffDad

Nah. That’s a picture of how the next generation will have intercourae. The exchange will take place via vaccine, because kids will grow up developing a vaccine fetish and they’ll be persuaded that the artificial version is the only way of procreating. And it will all be perfectly sanitised and without any germs exchanged, which is important because they’ll all be germophobes.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

I think I’m catching on:

A lie told by the dictatorship that gets called out by their media friends because it embarrasses even them = a typo. (As common as an albino tiger,.one might add)

A lie told by the dictatorship that isn’t called out by their media friends = The Science

A truth that contradicts a lie told by the dictatorship = dangerous misinformation

A general truth about the dictatorship with the odd inaccuracy = a conspiracy theory

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

You’ve nailed it!

Don’t forget the one for blatant illogical U-turns too – “Growing Evidence” (as in the U-turn over muzzles – said evidence never appears, of course)

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

We need an encyclopaedia of Covid lies. Plenty of material on this site.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Happy to illustrate!

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

My default thought whenever I see any information presented by the government these days is “in what way have I been lied to?”

One day the pandemic will be over, but the loss of trust in government, Public Health England, the NHS, the MHRA, the media and in fact any public institution will remain for a long, long time.

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paul smith
paul smith
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The pandemic (which has never really been a pandemic in the classical sense) will NEVER be over.
Just look at the Antipodes.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

This trust being lost might not be such a bad thing.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago

I wonder how they made the risk/benefit analysis easy-read? What’s the betting it says “The vaccine is safe and effective”?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

“…. and any side effects are normally mild and go away in a day or two.”

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

This generation of children are going to be very, very angry and frightened when the reality becomes clear. And some of them will be very angry with their parents too.

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QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
3 years ago

Filthy lying evil scumbags!!

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snoozle
snoozle
3 years ago

Well, and more importantly, it should read:
If you get vaccinated then we, the government, may decide to return to you some fo the freedoms that we despotically stole.”
I’m sure that it makes skillful use of the passive voice to hide the fact that the government should just return their freedom no questions asked.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Lying, fucking bastards!

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PartyTime
PartyTime
3 years ago

The original version “You don’t have to keep following the Government’s rules if you have been vaccinated” was misleading, but true in context; it’s also true, at least in principle, for the unvaccinated.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

It also shows that most people don’t know the status of gov rules. Where I work all but two people wear masks all day long and believe children must be tested for covid if a school asks. Since the gov NEVER clarifies ‘rules’ people accept them at face value. Of course the gov NEVER openly states that all have the right to reject a vaccine.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

But they’re not laws.

Whenever challenged they fold (although the MSM do not seem to report this news .

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

True. So what we have is tacit dictat via ignorance. The language of rights and freedoms has totally evaporated. People are under peer pressure or just too lazy to check and challenge, making assumptions which aren’t actually valid. Yet the gov can claim they ‘didn’t force anyone’ while not being explicit about the truth. This is a brainwashing agenda.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Throughout this shitshow the government (and others) have deliberately conflated laws and guidance into “The Rules” which people ‘have’ to follow. Only the sufficiently-clued-up minority actually read the legislation (which is itself usually a mess due to repeated amendments) so that they know which bits (i.e. the guidance) can be ignored with impunity.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago

Many kids are actually really confused now. At our Rebels at Roundabouts yesterday, a 16 year old came over to talk to us. He’d been jabbed (taken it for his ill mother!) But was now worried. He thought we were the militant ANTI-Vaxxers he’d heard about in MSM! When we explained we weren’t, we are pro-choice, and just trying to inform people of the risks, especially to younger children, and the lies and duplicity this government is generating, he actually listened. He asked lots of questions which we were happy to answer but we were careful not to frighten him because he’d had the jabs, and we stayed positive. He wasn’t aggressive or rude, and I think we opened his mind to break down some of the negative propaganda he’d heard about people who oppose this vaccine programme. Hopefully this will filter back to his peers and family, who knows?

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dommo
dommo
3 years ago

experimental gene therapy macht frei?

you can’t make this shit up…

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

I will never be jabbed with this stuff, but its worrying reading the negative long term things about it when my son and other relatives have had it, ‘for work’

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

For any one with the remotest sense of legality, ethics or common decency the consent forms being sent out will be profoundly offensive: they offer false or improper inducements, the do not outline the doubtful benefits or serious known risks, or the unknown risks of products for which there is no long term data. This is not in good faith: the people doing this are behaving with complete immorality and heaven knows what their real motives are.

Last edited 3 years ago by PhantomOfLiberty
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Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
3 years ago

I can only imagine what a ‘big typo’ would consist of…

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disgruntled246
disgruntled246
3 years ago

Don’t for a second believe this was an accident, it’s all deliberate.
Utter utter bastards. I am not normally a violent person but I can’t help hoping that retribution for the person who is doing this to our kids will be as nasty and vicious as is possible.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

These are people playing the tricks of petty criminals – if you were dealing with a market-stall holder you would back away and not return, and they are running the government.

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karenishly
karenishly
3 years ago

Sneaky little fuckers.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Obtaining consent via a form that contains lies, however unintentional (???…) has to be a criminal offence.

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String
String
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That was what I thought – any kind of fraud, vitiates everything. Presumably this is the same with the vax manufacturers: they at present appear to have a blanket immunity from prosecution, but if that was based on a false premise, such as for example they knew the products would likely be harmful, then all bets are off.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

But the judiciary aren’t likely to do anything about it, even if someone manages to get it to court.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

If there is a law against something and that law has patently and incontrovertibly been broken, and a criminal charge is brought, the judiciary has to take notice.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

Masks, social distancing etc are not ‘rules’, they are guidance only and they are unenforceable. That’s what they should be telling everybody.

Last edited 3 years ago by Catee
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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

In Germany over 40 persons incarcerated in a special venue under 24h surveillance for breaking quarantine.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I didnt realise we’re living in or ruled by Germany, otherwise I don’t really see the point of your comment.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

habits die hard.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

It should all have been made clear as optional from day one, instead we had coercion and compulsion and lies and irrationality and propaganda. And it’s still going on.

Just a cock-up?

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AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
3 years ago

Evil morons, the lot of them.

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Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
3 years ago

‘In June, the U.S., U.K., EU, Mexico and Canada announced they would form a group to study how to safely reopen international travel.’

This will include eligible kids and adults having to be fully vaccinated to get into the US.
They’ve set the age at 12 (for now). Those that don’t get ‘jabbed’ will be discriminated against. They’re just not telling you how yet.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

Reminder that they supposedly “debated” the following petition in Parliament:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/575801 – Outlaw discrimination against those who do not get a Covid-19 vaccination

Long story short: It was no debate. All the MPs involved were falling over eachother to praise the vaccines. At no point did they discuss medical discrimination. Maybe it’s time to write to our representatives and let them know that we do not approve of their little hand puppet show. It is clear that they have no plan to stop any such discrimination. On the contrary, I think they are relying on it in order to give people no choice.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-09-20/debates/A52729B6-FB5D-498F-86E4-569024C22623/Covid-19Vaccinations

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

They did mention misinformation, downright lies, and mad conspiracy theories by people with hidden agendas who are in the pockets of well-funded and well-organised anti-vax movements employed to stop others from getting their potentially life-saving vaccine.

Why some well-funded and well-organised political pressure group would want to stop others from getting life-saving vaccines is anybody’s guess. There’s nothing to be gained by that.

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CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Yes the very words, and in Hansard!
Absolutely despicable and the heights of insolent arrogance gilding what appears as literal ignorance. Are they relying on input from HoC researchers without verifying any of what was given them? Topped with the adulation of the rascal Jenner – because he was a “Brit”!
They would do well to read chapter 6 of Professor E.M. Crookshank’s “History and Pathology of Vaccination” (1889) or Ian Sinclair’s “Vaccination: The “Hidden” Facts” (1992/94). Or any of the modern and authoritative books which impartially review the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

And that would just be a good start – since the COVID-19 “jabs” are not even traditional vaccines anyway but genetic therapy approved on an emergency use basis and without lengthy (in terms of years) human testing.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Write to our representatives?

Good lord, I gave up on that idea months ago. Might as well write to Santa, or the tooth fairy. It’ll do about as much good.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Well, feel free to replace that with whichever activity you find most fitting for getting your MP to do something.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I’m thinking about doing this, provided I can come up with a sensible text. I don’t expect it to do much good. But not doing it certainly won’t do any good and debating a petition by reciting (big pharma) boilerplate propaganda while entirely ignoring its topic is a disgrace.

Sars-CoV2-vaccination should be available to anyone who thinks he needs it. But – just as with mask mandates – people who produce stuff some people don’t want to buy (or have) should not go to the government to force it onto the population.

Last edited 3 years ago by RW
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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago

“While some of the Government’s rules apply differently to adults who have been vaccinated, no such distinctions have been made for children.”

And what *rules* are these exactly?! I’ve been carrying on life just the same and whatever jabbyjabs I’ve had or not haven’t come into it.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Putting the con in consent

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CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
3 years ago

Was this a HoC Debate or a group conformity experiment? Doesn’t a Debate require dissentient viewpoints on fundamentals?
I make it all of… 6 MPs in attendance to debate these petitions.

Relevant documents:
e-petition 586017, Do not vaccinate children against COVID-19 until Phase 3 trials are complete,
e-petition 587380, Reform the VDPA 1979 to improve support for those harmed by covid-19 vaccines, and

e-petition 593410, Do not make Covid-19 vaccination a requirement to physically
attend university.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-09-20/debates/A52729B6-FB5D-498F-86E4-569024C22623/Covid-19Vaccinations

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Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
3 years ago

12 year olds and up from the U.K. are no longer allowed to enter Germany if they’re unvaccinated.
I’m guessing all EU countries will have the same policy.
Inject your kids or you won’t be going on holiday in the EU or the US.

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DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
3 years ago

Children who have faced 0
deaths since schools returned (one of the last to do so) are lied to again so that Pfizer can get their $40/dose. Vaccination is useful for the at risk. For kids, it’s just the cash register ringing. Lies and psychological abuse.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

The experimental jabs, with no long-term safety data, are NOT useful for anyone.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

“Vaccination is useful for the at risk.”

Perhaps as a talisman, to make them feel safer. But that’s about it.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

When I downloaded this leaflet last week I literally wept. I’m a teacher at of the many schools where this crime will be committed and one of my kids is also a student there. I have expressed to them the criminality of what will be occurring and will shortly be meeting governors in a bid to make them accountable. I have no words to describe the evil at work here but I am also certain that it is indefensible and impossible to make a case for. I can’t stop foolish parents sacrificing their own children at the altar of covid; I can protect my own kids though, and ensure that bureaucrats allowing this to happen will one day pay the price for their own stupidity and credulousness.

Last edited 3 years ago by crisisgarden
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Should also say that whilst I have been writing my statement, expressing the danger and insanity has become easier and easier. The FDA hearings last week certainly helped and of course the (limp, pathetic, supine but I don’t say that) recommendation of our own JCVI have made it much easier. There is no case for vaccinating children and that’s the end of it.

Last edited 3 years ago by crisisgarden
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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

If the weak and gullible are willing to sacrifice themselves at the alter of the vaccine gods, who are we to stop them.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I can’t include the children of weak and gullible people in that assessment though.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

These leaflets – particularly the ‘easy reads’ intended for children and people with learning disabilities – will one day be displayed in museums as examples of early 21st Century war propaganda and visitors will gaze in horror at the depths to which human beings can stoop. ‘Never again’, they will say (until the next time some more humans do it again).

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago

Small typo my arse!

Everything they have done has had the utmost consideration in order to further their aims to get everyone injected. Everything.

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enlighteneduk
enlighteneduk
3 years ago

How low can these bastards stoop?

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morganlefey
morganlefey
3 years ago

Deuteronomy 32:35 “It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them”

Last edited 3 years ago by morganlefey
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morganlefey
morganlefey
3 years ago

Coerced vaccination of children? Watch out perpetrators. Nuremberg Code is coming to get you for Crimes Against Humanity.

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago

What kind of medical information form feels it needs to propagandize about “freedom” that is actually a set of measly prisoners’ privileges.

We need to take note of all this, we need to find the people responsible, we need to put them on trial, and we need to jail them for a very very very long time. And I am not joking at all.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Can’t believe Whitty who has gone from the majority will not be affected (April 2020) to everyone is in mortal danger, wonder what changed him so drastically or is that a daft question?

Last edited 3 years ago by DanClarke
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

The question is anything but daft. We can ask him when he’s on trial for crimes against humanity, can’t we?

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Brown Envelopes. Or do they transfer bribes electronically?

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kate
kate
3 years ago

https://odysee.com/@en:a5/PK_Tot-durch-Impfung_english:a

This is a special conference led by Vivaine Fisher from the Corona Committee.

It goes into proper medical detail on what is in these “vaccines” There are slides which show metallic objects moving in the “vaccines” It suggests to me that the “mad” theories about transhumanism could have merit, as some of these objects are clearly engineered nanobot type objects.

The part on the vaccine contents starts at about 1.19.

There is a good presentation from a German surgeon who is working with a group of international doctors to investigate and publicise this.
Much of the conference is hard to follow because of the translation, which is hurried out, due to the importance and urgency of getting this information out as soon as possible, given the need to protect children from being experimented on with these deadly injections..

Last edited 3 years ago by kate
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