Only last week, the Government advised that pregnant women should be given Covid vaccines, although preferably the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine rather than AstraZeneca because there was more observational data available about the effect of the first two thanks to the vaccine roll out in America. Now, an Oxford Professor of Foetal Medicine has said that the vaccination of mothers-to-be should be prioritised so they don’t have to wait until the vaccine becomes available to people in their age group, such are the risks of COVID-19 for mothers-to-be and their unborn children. The Mail on Sunday has the story.
Pregnant women should be fast-tracked for Covid jabs because the disease greatly increases the risk of health problems for mums-to-be, a leading medic has said.
A study led by a top Oxford expert found that the virus raises the risk of serious maternal complications by more than 50%, including a fivefold risk of mothers needing intensive care.
It doubles the risk of premature birth and newborn illness and also significantly raises the chance of the mother dying, according to a study of more than 2,000 expectant women.
The call for pregnant women to be put at the front of the queue differs from guidelines by the U.K.’s vaccine advisers, who say mums-to-be should be offered a jab when other people their age get one.
Until now, only pregnant women with underlying health conditions or those with high risk of exposure to the virus were eligible.
The latest study was led by Oxford University’s Professor of Foetal Medicine Aris Papageorghiou, who said: “Fortunately, there were very few maternal deaths [in the study]; nevertheless, the risk of dying during pregnancy and in the postnatal period was over 20 times higher in women with Covid than in the non-infected pregnant women.”
The findings show that of some 1,400 pregnant women without Covid, one died. But in 700 pregnant women with Covid, 11 died – with the majority said to be virus-related. Professor Papageorghiou added: “Our study unequivocally shows that women who are pregnant and become infected with Covid have much worse [health] outcomes than their counterparts not infected.”
He added: “What is often missed is that we are talking here about two individuals, the mother and the child. Covid in a pregnant woman increases complications that can lead to premature birth, which is the number one contributor to newborn death and long-term disability.”
His “personal opinion” was that pregnant women should now be prioritised for Covid vaccination, given that older age groups have already received their first jab. He said: “I believe pregnant women should constitute a high-risk group by virtue of their pregnancy.”
In most areas the NHS is now vaccinating 45-to-49 year-olds. Health bosses insist they will not deviate from the plan of working down through five-year age bands, meaning most pregnant women will have to wait.
Initially, the Government – acting on the advice of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) – said the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines should be given to pregnant women “where available” but that the AstraZeneca vaccine could also be administered. This was in spite of the JCVI’s own admission that “more research is needed” on the AZ vaccine because pregnant women were not included in the vaccine trials. Earlier this week, however, NHS England told GPs at sites that are only administering the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine to cancel all appointments for pregnant women and direct them to sites where alternative vaccines are available.
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Until they understand why certain women have had major disruptions to their cycles and some have miscarried after taking the vaccines, this is one of the most irresponsible statements to come yet from medical officialdom.
Yes – a totally monstrous suggestion, massively violating medical codes of ethics. The professor should be kicked out by the university!
Thalidomide, anyone???
I ventured onto Mumsnet (not a regular thing I do) I and noticed the vaccine thread. So I had a look. So many have had their vaccine and are now wondering why their cycles have become very light and delayed or generally messed up! Some brave soul spoke up about the dangerous aspects of the jab, and the VAERS reporting system and ALL were totally unaware of any risks or did any research! Now some regret having the jab, some were going to cancel their first and/or second jab. This is how much people have been brainwashed, that they haven’t questioned ANYTHING about a substance being put into their body that can’t be removed!
‘But in 700 pregnant women with Covid, 11 died – with the majority said to be virus-related.’ ‘The majority’…so that could be six. Does anyone have the actual figures? ‘Virus-related’. Does anyone have details of these cases? I’m wondering if by any chance these pregnant women were very overweight (perhaps with oedema/eclampsia, life-threatening)and/or with other serious conditions already? As obviously if they then developed another illness, it would be very bad news for them… Does anyone have any information on this? As until we know more about these women who died, it’s difficult to know whether there’s any pressing reason for a healthy pregnant woman to have this injection.
Indeed, are they actually comparing infected against non-infected, or hospitalised cases against non-infected? It would be good to see the actual study, rather than the media interpretation of it. Also some absolute risk numbers rather than relative risk would be nice.
This is a classic case of the statistical illiteracy that is widespread in the medical profession.
Don’t think that someone with ‘Professor’ or ‘Dr’ bolted onto their name necessarily has a grasp of these other skills. Why would universities be shut up if they did?
I can’t find a link to the study in this article. I would be interested to know the statistical strength of these findings.
VAX-IN-ATE ALL HUMANS! VAX-IN-ATE ALL HUMANS! VAX-IN-ATE ALL HUMANS! VAX-IN-ATE ALL HUMANS! VAX-IN-ATE ALL HUMANS! VAX-IN-ATE ALL HUMANS!
That’s excellent!
“I AM YOUR SERV-ANT..!”
https://ok.ru/video/c4835533
an extract from one of the comments in the Mail on Sunday referring to the professor of foetal medicine…
”On the University of Oxford medical sciences division site for this man, it shows funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation…”
That’s a surprise….. not!
The evidence.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants?q=University%20of%20Oxford
FGS if I were pregnant I wouldn’t even take an aspirin never mind a gene changing jab! What is wrong with people? I cannot understand why they are acting like mindless zombies!
Because they are mindless zombies.
Because they don’t have sufficient information to make a truly informed decision. Frankly, none of us do. We don’t have the full picture, any of us, as so much is being deliberately hidden. It will eventually come out, but for now, we’re going on almost a best guess and caution.
The general public, who don’t frequent alternative news sites, are going with their best guess, and caution over the supposedly very deadly virus, because that’s what they’re constantly being told.
I’m going with my best guess that it’s not possible, unless the pharmaceutical companies have industrial-sized time machines, to fully test a completely new vaccine in a few months, no matter how many people were enrolled in clinical trials (currently most of the population) and how many kitchen sinks were thrown at finding a vaccine.
Probably the greatest evidence against the idea that “science” runs the show or that very many people understand science at all is the fact that the very concept of time has been distorted. Apparently time can now be compressed, or it at least runs at different rates in different places on Earth.
Aren’t pregnant women advised to avoid raw eggs, soft cheeses, pate, alcohol, smoking and the like? And yet here they are being fiercely pushed into taking an experimental treatment, which only has emergency approval, and for which human trials will not be completed until 2022/23! It’s the unborn babies feel sorry for.
Here is the official page for the Pfizer vaccine pregnant women trial:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04754594
Eligibility criteria No. 5:
Participant is willing to give informed consent for her infant to participate in the study
So they have to agree to risk killing the baby as well.
So they are deliberately injecting pregnant women with an experimental drug that adverse reporting systems are showing mounting correlation with miscarriages to see if they miscarriage or not?
Sounds more and more like Nazi Germany and Communist China every day.
If it’s with consent is that such a problem? The real issue is experimenting clandestinely on the general public!
Because of privacy laws there has to be a consent for the baby. Otherwise Pfizer would be committing a crime by reporting adverse events after the baby is born.
Advice to pregnant women in mid 1990s – “avoid soft cheese” due to small threat of listeria. Advice to pregnant women in 2021 (see above). What the hell is wrong with everyone? This is utter madness.
No laughing matter but that did make me laugh!
The people pushing this are little better than Dr.Mengele. They should be reminded of that.
I would guess that they’re also not particularly concerned about unborn babies, or babies in general. After all, the world’s going to end in, what is it now? ten years? according to the climate change lobby.
The way things are going, I think the world as we have known it will end in less than 10 years. The Third World is beckoning!
Who funds thia Professor’s work?
Who do you think? See below.
Thanks.
I’m shocked. And stunned. Who would have thought it?
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants?q=University%20of%20Oxford
I assume this is a prospective study. So, Out of 2100 pregnant women in the study, 700 become “infected” with covid. One in 3. This smells fishy to me. I thought pregnant women were at no greater risk of testing positive for covid than non-pregnant women of the same age.
I assume it was a retrospective study….
Ok so I should have read the actual paper before assuming! (Schoolgirl error). It was longitudinal in the sense that women were recruited to the study when they were found to have tested positive for covid (symptomatic or asymptomatic), or had multiple symptoms of covid (without a test), but then each woman was matched with 2 other pregnant women without covid, and then followed up through the remainder of pregnancy and after birth. The study was conducted in multiple locations around the world, and I understand that the majority of women who died were in areas where there there was less availability of resources, such as ICU. Although the 2 groups of women were matched to some extent, the covid group had more obesity, more comorbid conditions, and more recreational drug use! Rather than focussing so heavily on giving pregnant women experimental vaccines, wouldn’t they do better to encourage more healthy lifestyles?!
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2779182?guestAccessKey=fed2ea98-6893-42aa-87e4-9664222f3842&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=042221
Thank you for reading the paper for me. Why am I not surprised by what you found? The recent BMJ paper “proving” that UKStrain is much more deadly admitted that it…. you guessed it…. failed to control for comorbidities.
How does this stuff get published? The answer, I think, is that in normal times it would fail peer review. These days it gets picked up and shouted out by the media as if it’s as established truth as Newtonian mechanics.
The old days of trusting in scientific integrity are long gone, I’m sorry to say.
I think it’s really important we do read these research articles so we can call this poor “science” out and show it up for what it is. I think some researchers have become so complacent, they don’t expect the public to look beyond the headlines. Nor do their funders. Or governments or public health bodies.
Extraordinary. The impact on the foetus, completely unknown.
Reports of miscarriages – have they been rigorously investigated to find susceptible minority reactions or dismissed as no more than usual, nothing to see here?
Report of breastfed baby dying of clots and low platelets a day after mother’s Pfizer injection – properly investigated?
“Send three and fourpence, we’re going to a dance”. Total chaos and confusion, with the donkeys in charge again, and as little consideration or concern for the lives of women and children as any Great War general for his troops.
Do we have any idea how harmful it is to repeatedly test a pregnant woman for covid?
So pregnant women are presented with contradictory advice from different sources, one based on the “scientific” statement that 11 died – with the majority said to be virus-related.
I am interested in the statistical value assigned to “said to be”.
As said previously, it is astounding that so many professionals are woefully ignorant of the basic statistical skills necessary to undertake research. I’m not talking sophisticated inferential statistics – just the basic elements relating to data analysis, which one assumes all researchers are familiar with – by definition. Otherwise, they’re mechanics without spanners who only change plug-in ‘modules’ on cars.
Perhaps computerisation is one of the problems – it is now so easy to shove data in and get a ‘result’ without going through the basic thinking processes that are involved, and skipping that stage of just looking that I was taught as being essential.
A good example is that no-one with any statistical literacy could think that Covid was an ‘unprecedented’ event. A simple bit of graphical analysis would show this as a complete fiction.
Conclusion : if anyone says that ‘Covid’ is an ‘unprecedented’ event, you’re best disregarding their views – they haven’t grasped the basics, and will certainly not have any grasp of the fact that quoting relative risk but not absolute risk figures is a sure sign of ignorance or deliberate deception.
Women of childbearing age aren’t going to get Covid.
They can catch it Annie, my 24 year old Goddaughter did.
She’s still here!
Fair enough.
Ha ha!! LDS has just swapped the main image from one of a pregnant woman being jabbed by a togged up medic in clinical medical surroundings to a posed image straight off a website on healthy child bearing – somewhat missing the point (no pun intended).
Nervous, or what?
Only obeying orders.
There is no ‘vaccine’ for stupidity…..
Stupidity seems to be increasingly virulent.
It certainly has a lot of variants.
If the COVID vaccines included a vaccination against mass hysteria, I’d be all for them (for those who are taking them only, of course). The opposite seem to be the case.
No, I’m not suggesting that the vaccine contains a clinically-effective hidden payload. To me that’s bonkers conspiracy territory.
The payload is psychological, social. Taking the vaccine, unless you’re really at risk (in which case, great!) is an escalation of commitment to the demented propaganda designed to bully us all into taking it. The side effects some people suffer, while accidental, are the icing on the cake: some who took the vaccine went through that, we vaccine shirkers dodged it. Therefore they’re licensed to hate us and cheer on vaccine passports to make our lives miserable. Taking the vaccine is a baked-in incentive to believe what the people who told you to take it tell you to do next.
All this, of course, is hidden under a thick, gooey layer of “I’m doing it for society” schmaltz.
If they’d just brought out the vaccines, made them available to everyone (starting with people most at risk), celebrated, removed restrictions, told everyone “here’s the vaccine cupboard – help yourself if you want one!”, then dyou know… I might have accepted it.
As it is, I’m virulently against accepting it.
Now: Pregnant women must take the vaccine!
9 months from now: Well… we have a lot of babies with congenital defects being born… Covid is bad for pregnancies! New lockdown! Sex is banned! Pregnant women must take more vaccine!
I suppose that as far as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for Population Control is concerned, pregnant women are a twofer.
“The findings show that of some 1,400 pregnant women without Covid, one died. But in 700 pregnant women with Covid, 11 died – with the majority said to be virus-related. Professor Papageorghiou added: “Our study unequivocally shows that women who are pregnant and become infected with Covid have much worse [health] outcomes than their counterparts not infected.”
Really? 11 pregnant “were said” to have died of a “COVID-related” condition. What was that “condition”? Positive on a PCR test run for 50 cycles? Hearsay? Any consideration of confounding factors? Sample size of 2100? ONE study? This gives “unequivocal” results?
There are two problems here. Bandwagon-jumping scientists desperate to do policy-led science and promote themselves; and an idiot media which will happily give column inches to their results without worrying about scientific consensus, repeated studies, ethics or sometimes even peer review.
The “science” on UKStrain (ZOMG!!!!!!%%%%%%) being more harmful, for instance, which we were bombarded with, turns out to be junk. I knew that ages ago because I read the scientific papers concerned. But knowing that made me a “conspiracy-theorist COVID-denier anti-vaxx loony”.
How sick are these people? They know full well that women of child-bearing age are at practically NO risk from this virus. They KNOW this and yet they encourage young women to risk their precious health just to inflate their own bank balances – I can think of no other reason.
Remarkable.
There were 464,437 live births in the first 9 months of 2020 in England, so about 619,000 over the year. If this sample were representative, 9,727 of them would have died of/ with COVID, of a total 1,830 women under 55 who died of/ with COVID last year.
So either these 7,897 were not women under 60 or whoever did the survey is completely innumerate – I think it’s pretty obvious which is correct !