The Office for National Statistics has admitted that in its Covid infection survey it has been reporting PCR tests as positive when only a single coronavirus gene is detected, despite this being contrary to the instructions of the manufacturer that two or more target genes must be found before a positive result can be declared.
According to a rapid response in the BMJ this week by Dr Martin Neil, a statistics professor at the University of London, targeting only a single gene in this way massively increases the risk of a false positive because of the possibility of cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses as well as prevalent bacteria or other contamination.
Digging into the detail of the methods followed by the lighthouse laboratories which process the tests for the ONS, Professor Neil writes:
The kit used by the Glasgow and Milton Keynes lighthouse laboratories is the ThermoFisher TaqPath RT-PCR which tests for the presence of three target genes from SARS-COV-2. Despite Corman et al originating the use of PCR testing for SARS-CoV-2 genes there is no agreed international standard for SARS-COV-2 testing. Instead, the World Health Organisation (WHO) leaves it up to the manufacturer to determine what genes to use and instructs end users to adhere to the manufacturer instructions for use.
The WHO’s emergency use assessment for the ThermoFisher TaqPath kit includes the instruction manual and contained therein is an interpretation algorithm describing an unequivocal requirement that two or more target genes be detected before a positive result can be declared. The latest revision of ThermoFisher’s instruction manual contains the same algorithm. The WHO have been sufficiently concerned about correct use of RT-PCR kits that on January 20th 2021 they issued a notice for PCR users imploring them to review manufacturer instructions for use carefully and adhere to them fully.
The ONS’s report of December 5th 2020 lists SARS-CoV-2 positive results for valid two and three target gene combinations and the report of December 21st does the same, for samples processed by the Glasgow and Milton Keynes lighthouse laboratories. However, it also lists single gene detections as positive results.
Between a quarter and two thirds of positive results were affected, Professor Neil found.
Over the period reported the maximum weekly percentage of positives on a single gene is 38% for the whole of the UK for the week of February 1st. The overall UK average was 23%. The maximum percentage reported is 65%, in East England in the week beginning October 5th. In Wales it was 50%, in Northern Ireland it is 55% and in Scotland it was 56%. The full data including averages and maxima/minima are given in [17].
Although the non-compliant practice was clearly indicated in the ONS reports and confirmed in correspondence, it was denied by key figures when writing in the press.
Professor Alan McNally, Director of the University of Birmingham Turnkey laboratory, who helped set up the Milton Keynes lighthouse laboratory, contradicted what was stated in the ONS report in a Guardian newspaper article about the new variant. He reported that all lighthouse laboratories operated a policy that adhered to the manufacturer instructions for use: requiring two-or-more genes for positive detection.
In correspondence with Mr Nicholas Lewis about single gene testing, in February 2021, the ONS confirmed that they do indeed call single gene targets as positives in their COVID-19 Infection Survey and also confirmed that the samples are processed by UK lighthouse laboratories.
Is this one reason the ONS consistently reports higher Covid infections than the ZOE Covid Symptom Study, which tracks symptomatic Covid? In its latest report published today, the ONS estimates 192,300 people had Covid in the UK in the week ending March 13th, whereas ZOE estimates 109,400 people had symptomatic Covid in the middle of that week – almost half the number.
Here are their graphs for comparison. Note that 1% of the UK population is about 670,000 people, so the 2% peak at the start of the year would be around 1.34 million, much higher than ZOE’s 800,000.
This is important because the Government looks to the ONS infection survey to give it an accurate picture of the state of the epidemic. If it is overestimating infections then that will slow down the recovery – though admittedly the Government has hardly been in a rush to get on with it.
Accurate data is always important, particularly in an emergency where far-reaching decisions are taken with a bare minimum of information. False positives also inflate Covid death statistics, with all deaths within 28 days of a positive test being recorded as Covid deaths. This may be one reason the winter surge had a higher Covid peak but a lower excess death peak than the spring.
It’s no good having ONS estimates that are consistently too high because the statistics authority (and the labs it relies on) are ignoring the instructions of the equipment’s manufacturers for processing PCR tests. Government ministers need to intervene and insist that WHO guidance and the manufacturer’s instructions are now consistently followed.
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They need to be told in no uncertain terms that there is no science behind their suggested measures and that we ain’t in the business of pandering to those who believe in rain dance mythology.
Anything less is not going to help anyone.
I would just ask them how it’s possible to have so many hospitalisations when so much of the population has been given COVID jabs? Aren’t they supposed to reduce the chance of hospitalisation? And the so called variants going around are milder, aren’t they?
The NHS has become a threat to society.
The last group of victims these people may force-test to the heart’s content in order to manufacture as many so-called COVID cases as possible are hospital patients. As we know from people posting here, everybody in hospital is routine-tested at least once per day, possible even several times per day. The NHS finally resuming its job of caring for the health of the population instead of dancing the Corona all day must obviously result in an influx of new patients who have been in dire need of hospital care for quite some time. Even an increase of COVID deaths could be engineered in this way as someone with, eg, terminal cancer due to it not getting treated in time, can be assigned to this category if one manages to get a couple of positive test results from him before he dies.
One should also take into account who this comes from: Not from the clinical NHS itself but from a professional lobbying body claiming to represent the NHS as such (the NHS Confederation), to ensure that systems and organisations work in what claims to be its interest and – as can be gathered from keywords in its website, eg reducing health inequalities, which is generally integrated into woke politics.
“The NHS has become a threat to society.”
This will soon become the Big Issue of our time!
I can’t see it ever happening but we need to ask why Spanish flu was over in 18 months to 2 years and we’re still floundering with this disaster at the 2 year plus mark. I wonder whether it could be anything to do with mass vaccination in a pandemic with a non-sterilising vaccine that is likely to muck up people’s immune systems? If only we’d actually thought through the problem before rushing in all guns blazing and stuck with what we’ve always done. But, of course, if you’re of the view that chaos was always the end-point then I suppose this could be called success!
They did think about it. It’s a Pfizer money making scam. What other drugs are available? Only Pfizer, AZ has been overshadowed, and Novavax etc are not available here. SAGE and our government promoted this and signed contracts that they will not publish with Pfizer.
Watch MEP Christian Teres speaking about the contracts that were signed by Frau Von Lederhosen (or ”Fonda Lyin” as he calls her) – and look at the papers and how heavily they’ve been redacted.
Maybe, but the absence of ‘science’ didn’t stop them before.
They keep re-running the same narrative – any alternative would bring down their house of cards on all their heads .
Surely the Media dam holding back the sordid truth must eventually break?
Muzzles are still mandatory in hospitals, yes?
Then if they work, why are so many people catching the coofs in hospital, while under professional health workers’ supervision?
Is their contention that untrained members of the public do a better job of muzzling up on the bus?
Simple answer: It’s not about health or a virus. It’s about preventing the collapse of Zero COVID in China and the presumably less-than-fortunate effect this will have on Xi’s future political career. These people are nothing but Chinese fifth-colummnists and ought to be treated as such.
Shocking images of nightmare suppression, incarceration, suicides and starvation now leaking out of “Zero Covid” Shanghai China!
Good to know that Johnson has ‘not ruled out” more lockdowns to (as he bizarrely claims) “save lives” (!)
The derangement disconnect, based on compounded lies, is growing by the day.
Pour encourager les autres, peut etre?
They might try to pretend that face-nappies are ‘mandatory’ but I have been to two different hospitals recently (last visit on Friday 8 April) and I have not worn a face-nappy. On the second occasion there was no challenge to this.
This illustrates, if illustration were needed, just how divorced NHS bureaucrats are from reality.
What is more, the object of these idiotic and petty one-way systems and all the other covid theatre has nothing whatever to do with health or even safety, but enabling jumped-up jobsworths to order people about and put them in their place. Similarly, the object of these accursed perspex screens is to transform customers into suppliants.
I always collapse with giggles, imagining all the zillions of half-micron coronaviruses desperately struggling to get round a two-foot square of plastic, and falling back exhausted.
I accompanied my OH to a hospital visit yesterday. Got to the front door where we were asked to put on a face nappy. We refused, “no problem” said the NHS ‘heroe’. We have a family member who has just been diagnosed with the big C, which would have been caught early 2 years ago, had the NHS ‘heroes’ not cancelled the appointment in favour of TikTok routines. I was itching for a confrontation, but they seem to realise that some people aren’t going to stand for this bullsh*t anymore.
Just say ‘No!’.
It’s superstition, and we shouldn’t pander to it!
Are they also proposing that everyone wear crucifixes to stop the spread of a cold?
They’d be better off suggesting that people wear garlic cloves around their neck. (And I’m only half-joking – garlic definitely provides a better health boost than the clot shot)
Garlic has eal antimicrobial properties and doesn’t kill.
You sure about that? My husband has a penchant for garlic & his breath afterwards has nearly killed me, I’m sure
Eat it yourself. It’s the only way.
No they’re proposing “…not meeting people indoors and wearing masks in crowded spaces…” you know ‘The Science’. The last thing an organization like the NHS would do is promote Christianity.
Yet Science and Christianity are both founded on Faith.
Science makes many assumptions that have not been proved, and in some cases CANNOT be proved.
If would work just as well
You’re either required to wear a mask, or failing that a lanyard to show that you’re exempt from wearing a mask.
Either way, they’re as effective as wearing a crucifix.
Do these people have any scientific evidence that they can bring to the table to support their request? It isn’t as though they’ve not had enough time to actually do the research.
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Almost as if they were not interested.
One needs to consider the incentives for finding the truth vs the disincentives.
Well accepting the truth (that there isn’t much you can reasonably do to limit the spread of this virus) would mean they’d have nothing to whinge about I suppose… are there other disincentives?
Being the first to step out of line and admit it was all nonsense – bit of a career-ender. They are all in it together.
Why bother with with science, evidence or research when you can impose any kind of mandate you like, with as little parliamentary scrutiny you like, under emergency legislation..
Maybe Boris will get a second chance at his Thatcher Moment, and grow the balls to tell the NHS experts to get stuffed.
Tell them the NHS (and the BBC) is going to be de-extorted.
Johnson’s great strength is that he flips and flops so regularly that you can always project your hopes onto him and say “Maybe now…”
It’s never now though, not in any substantial, sustained way.
Don’t hold your breath.
The only thing I have ever held is my nerve.
There are two things you can control – your emotions and your expenses!
No chance! He needs to tell his globalist mates at the WEF etc. to do the same and he shows no sign of doing so.
Eleven Plus Question
Q. With a staff of 1.7 million it takes 100 phones calls to speak to a rude GP receptionist. If the NHS had 3.4 million staff how many phone calls would it take
Cecil you above all should know that work expands to fill the time available for its completion.
About 300
Presumably, about 250 – 300 due to the exponentially growing management overhead.
So many imbeciles in this country, many of which seem to work for the NHS. When will they understand that there is no science at all behind their hysterical superstitious claptrap? I mean what will it take?
I guess it wouldn’t help much, but someone could do a decent study and see what difference different restrictions in different British countries and regions had, and then there’d be something tangible to point to to show these things don’t work.
Same old story though – it seems to be more in people’s interest not to have such evidence lying around. Might expose an awful lot of expensive, unjustified and harmful policymaking.
It will take a full scale war with Russia for these people to open their eyes and understand what government and our bloated bureaucracies tell utter porkies
What is a “covid hospitalisation”?
Apparently that’s like asking a politician to define what a “woman” is.
My understanding is a woman is someone who has, or does not have a penis.
Many women have a penis, but not their own….
Some have a large collection. Ask any prostitute.
Adult female human with two X chromosomes. Every cell in a woman’s body is female.
True, but. . . there seem to be an increasing number of cells containing men masquerading as women.
If the NHS tried telling the truth then we may, just maybe, listen. The NHS and Government have been lying for over 2 years and I think most people now know they were lied to but they won’t say anything because they were stupid.
The latest excuse for the massive rise in heart attacks is “It’s Covid” which is a blatant lie; it is the “vaccines”. I wouldn’t mind taking a bet that most of those on ventilators have had heart attacks.
The ventilators have been used throughout to enhance the case fatality rate. Getting SARS-CoV-2 is pretty risky if you are in hospital. Most NHS staff have been involved directly or indirectly in ventilating people because they had a cough. They have to keep believing the lies, otherwise it may occur to them that their complacency and unthinking compliance caused their participation in mass-murder.
I believe those at the top of NHS management should be sacked. They failed to plan correctly and then wasted OUR money buying non compliant goods from their mates.
Far too much waste in the NHS is as a result of their incompetence.
GP surgeries should also be returned to the main body of the NHS as a lot of the doctors now are only interested in the cash, not patient health.
80% of staff ruin it for the other 20%
Warehouses full of ventilators that were (urgently needed), PPE which is expired…..
The NHS is an unmanageable, ungovernable behemoth.
It was a nice idea for a while, but it’s time has come.
The NHS needs massive reorganising or disbanding altogether as it is no longer fit for purpose. Like all nationalised industries it is a self-serving bloated bureaucracy and bottomless money pit. The NHS is part of the problem and is being used against the very people it is supposed to serve and who fund it.
I feel sorry for those who work within the NHS and whose intentions are sound.
Its because they are so massively incompetent that they want everyone else to suffer to make their lives easier.
NHS: Vaccines are safe and effective
Also NHS: we are about to deal with an easter as brutal as any winter
Just look at that graph comparing this time last year and now, it’s laughable how these morons won’t just give up the ghost.
First, GPs want to get rid of patients, and now the hospitals!
Defund the NHS!
I think it was Eugyppius who predicted something along the lines of ‘third rate self-appointed ‘experts’ not willing to disappear from the limelight’.
“No.10 has seemingly abandoned any interest in Covid whatsoever.”
About bloody time.
It’s all “Ukraine” at present. I saw somewhere that Ukrainians fleeing to the West (Germany or perhaps Austria) were, to say the least, reluctant to accept their interim hosts’ kind offers of “jabs”.
If the NHS cannot be made to work despite the enormous amount of ressources which are being put into it, it must be dissolved. Punishing the general population for that, eg, by prohibiting people from receiving visitors in their own homes, reclosure of hospitality and entertainment industry and forcing people to wrap Chinese throwaway products around their faces is not acceptible.
NHS staff who think their jobs is too brutal for them are free to quit and find something else to live on. NHS managers on six figure salaries who envision themselves as tinpot dictators (on behalf of China(!)) while abjectly failing to do their job ought to be kicked out immediately and preferably, put to trial.
The typical sort of “person” working in the NHS
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-useful-hospital-beds-says-ex-official-a4380911.html
It would be perfect except for annoying ill people disturbing the tiktok
Yes, Minister:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAk448volww
I think many recognise that the NHS is, let’s be charitable, ‘in trouble’.
As with so many challenges we face today though, the issue is how we can get from where we are to where we would like to be?
The answer, for the last 50 years or longer has been to kick the can even further down the road and let tomorrow’s politician’s carry the burden. Unfortunately, we have run out of road… and, to compound the problem, fixing things is going to cost at least twice as much.
“Technical debt”* applies everywhere not just IT.
*Not fixing something now accrues interest.
I’m not so certain about that, ie, I was partially implying a rethorical question: The NHS worked, more or less successfully, from its foundation up to end of March 2020 without imposing anything on the general population except somewhat annoying and patronizing guidance on all kinds of topics nobody ever asked it anything about. As nothing material has changed since then, assertions to the contrary notwithstanding, it still ought to work as good or bad as it always did, ie, with NHS-problems in need of being addressed (the eternal state of imperfection of any complicated human endeavour) but without enforced, population wide behaviour change which happens to be eerily similar to certain, WHO-endorsed Chinese public health innovations and which certain people badly want for reasons entirely unrelated to any pandemic.
Examples of that would be the Scottish teetotaller-in-chief (Devi Isthisaword) again closing down the hospitality industy or the Michie/ Greenalgh drive for enforced face masking as general public health measure.
I work in the NHS; “my” Trust has 119 patients testing positive with covid apparently, of which 2 are in ITU (over 2 acute hospital sites). However, at least 108 of these are part of hospital outbreaks – they didn’t necessarily come in with it.
NHS Confederation is yet another quango-type outfit with definite Left Wing political aims; probably because its grossly-overpaid Chief Executive was head of Blair’s Policy Unit. I think that just about says it all.
Have they tried vaccinating harder?
They damn well should! If two masks are the bare minimum to ensure survival!
Self indulgent pettiness.
always an excuse to not provide.
Mathew Taylor has no medical training and is an ex aide to Tony Blair and therefore knows how to lie for a living.
All roads to ruin lead to Blair
Sorry but I think you Bliar
Reform the NHS to run on performance related pay. Quantity and quality of service rewarded with higher pay whilst simultaneously penalising those who sit on their hands whinging
Break it up completely. Carefully, but immediately.
Transition to private providers of healthcare and a state provided health insurance with a small, almost symbolic co-pay so that people use it when they really need to.
I don’t entirely disagree with what you say, indeed I’d be happy to pay, but… there is a real and significant part of our population who cannot simply put their hand in their pocket and come up with £20 to ‘see the doctor’. Or, even a fiver, possibly… how do we manage them?
The insurance based systems in much of Europe, which have far better outcomes than the NHS, all have safety nets for the poor.
But the Grauniad is ever worng.
The problems of the NHS are systematic.
1) Subsidised poor health choices and lifestyles
2) funded by punishing people for working
3) Rations treatment based on how much you bother staff/ how much staff are scared by not treating you (celeb health service).
The only poverty in this country is cultural.
Tell them to piss off to a country that will pay for them
I agree. Performance related pay in the public sector is badly needed. Far too many of them scam the system, it’s easy to do when your job is safe.
If they start pointing to Daniel Andrews and Masky Mark as role models, you’re in trouble.
Look at the graph.
How many people are vaccinated up to April 2022 compared with up to April 2021?
How many people are in hospital in April 2022 compared with April 2021?
If the vaccines are ‘so great’, why are we where we are?
From the BMJ, an article explaining the use of modelling during the “pandemic”
https://jech.bmj.com/content/76/5/512?_gl=1*1qylxdd*_ga*MTcwODQ2NDE4My4xNjQ5MDc4NTI0*_ga_EXTSVLH45V*MTY0OTY3MzQ4NC4xLjAuMTY0OTY3MzQ4NC42MA..*_fplc*MzM2a2pRbGRiJTJCNXpmUXFuVlRwV0d1OEFlVmFCNU1VYTRGcVBqRGxMUUswNlMlMkZEJTJGaFhIVW5VNiUyQlBXSFhsVFFMcFVYRE5FQXRzNXVJYk9tJTJCWDdyNFZKcFhUZXJBYTBoMFI4VUZwcFolMkJtYm9vcEkyY0NCVEYza3drSCUyQndHWWclM0QlM0Q.
It’s a rather a long essay, but essentially points out just how flawed and unscientific the modelling is, not only with “the most deadly pandemic ever”™ but also “climate crisis”™
The only thing it leaves out of the equation is the amount of funding and steering of “the science”™ by the big corporations that control it.
This article also from the BMJ does explain the amount of funding by big corporations and the corruption of science at its very core.
https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o702
I seriously doubt the population is up for a return of COVID restrictions and masks.
They’re going to have to sort this one out themselves. i.e. do their jobs properly for a change, which they won’t though because they are incapable.
And then maybe, just maybe, the population will wake up to the fact that the problem all along was a dysfunctional health service that abused the population with lockdowns and restrictions to cover up their dysfunction.
I’m not so optimistic. The vast majority of the public have proven themselves to be compliant in the extreme – far greater than I ever envisaged. If Johnson said that masks are to be worn again in shops etc from tomorrow I fear that a huge percentage would don them in an instant once more.
And I fear you are dead right. People have been conditioned to the extent that next time the government wouldn’t even need to give a reason for the masking. They will obey without question.
Up in Durham there are hundreds of young chinks still wearing them anyway
And it just seems to get more dysfunctional. I have a friend who has been in hospital almost continuously since the end of Jan. Am I allowed to visit? No. He is a classic bed blocker too as he really needs to be in a care home now, but nothing at all is happening. He is not even ill, just falls over all the time when home alone.
I have no doubt the pressure on A&E is due to the difficulty in seeing a GP in most areas. At our surgery if you ask for an appointment it’s a case of ‘computer says no’. I complained to my MP and to my surprise she it taking it up with the local health authority. Nobody has a good word to say about our local GP s now.
And still they all maintain that the vaccines work. Beyond stupid.
They are working beautifully, if keeping the narrative going is your thing. We now have a ‘pandemic’ of cases in the vaxxed. No vaccines and instead use of hcq etc and this would have been over months if not years ago.
It does work. It increases infections, hospitalisations and deaths as data from UKHSA shows, and these are higher among the boosted compared with double dosed and significantly higher than unvaccinated – which is why they have decided to stop publishing the data.
Talking of ‘sheep’, has anyone noticed that as soon as another ‘article’ comes up, there they all are pouring through the gate, some in an attempt to be ‘first’?!
Baaaa!
Well, it was a thought!
And your thought is… …what exactly?
It was just a random thought… with the word ‘sheep’ being bandied about so much these days, it struck me as an amusing thought that as soon as The Shepherd opens the gate to a new article it’s a rough ‘n’ tumble to get through to make the first posts!
hospitals are set to deal with a “brutal Easter as bad as any winter”.
So deal with it like you would in any winter. Stop being drama queens and just got on with your jobs. We don’t need histrionics. The show’s over.
How is Easter going to be brutal when “we had the biggest bestest roll out of the vaccine and the most vaccinated”, are the “vaccines” not working and what was the point of the Extremist Jabbing
A middle aged man in Corby didn’t get the vaccine which ruined it for everyone.
OMG, I’m a middle-aged man in Corby (well, near Corby) who didn’t get the vaccine!
They are conflating infections with serious disease. Most ‘infections’ are positive PCR/lateral flow/coin-toss tests nearly all without any actual symptoms. We have learned many ‘CoVid hospitalisations’ are people in hospital for other reasons who test positive, or who get it whilst in the hospital.
No. 10 has lost interest?
Excellent.
Hope the silly pseudo-tory worms never regain any interest in the cretinous covvibollox, so that we can all start living again.
This pandemic has been a real money spinner, there will be another one along shortly.
Perhaps the closure of both the non-medical’ NHS confederation’ and the non-medical ‘NHS providers’ would bring a little more reality into this constant doom-mongering. It would be worth considering how many patients are being rushed into A&E with Covid, or could it be that more people are using the face to face A&E departments for ‘routine’ problems that cannot be satisfied by the total collapse of the GP service into a glorified call centre
Especially if these organizations somehow manage to suck on the NHS budget (don’t know). A public health service should neither have a political arm to influence general politics[*] nor a PR budget of any kind.
[*] The very idea is actually completely perverse: The NHS is supposed to meet the demands of the people and not the other way round.
A&E has always been treated as an out of hours GP service which is why back in the 1970s the name was changed from ‘Casualty Dept to Accident & Emergency Dept to emphasise it was for those two things, not for soar throats, a bad back, or piles.
Also noteworthy: A repitition of demands made by the UKHSA head harpyie around the time mandatory isolation was abolished. This suggests behind-the-scenes political coordination where supposedly separate organizations come forward at different times with identical claims, to create an illusion of mass popular demand for them. Sort-of professional-level astroturfing.
Its almost like the ‘warp speed’ vaccines have made things much worse, almost like the jab junkies have wrecked their natural health by regular over exposure to this spike toxin and now they keep getting ill.
Its almost like the scientists that were silenced for warning about this had a point.
Yes.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozMTk5NzQ0NywicG9zdF9pZCI6NTE5MjM4MzYsIl8iOiJvSnBHbCIsImlhdCI6MTY0OTY5MDQzNiwiZXhwIjoxNjQ5Njk0MDM2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMzIzOTE0Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.gPbjawtpeiuYkpe_q9rxyPwAzwUnSecHCzZz59L2eOc&s=r
Ah yes, masks, well …
I read on Twitter that if there’s a global thermonuclear war, the only things on the planet to survive will be cockroaches and those in masks. FACT.
Clarification please. Do you mean those cockroaches in masks? Or are you implying that those in masks are cockroaches?
The second.
I concur.
If Carlsberg made vaccines they wouldn’t be ones used for Covid. In the whole of medical history these so called vaccines must be the worst ever.
Look at what they’re doing in countries where the food has run out. You might think that it could never happen here but you would be mistaken. I’m talking about in a few weeks time I guarantee that the lockdown measures will be back and stricter than ever. They won’t even bother to say that it is about the spread of a disease. They just know that if they give the order then most will obey.
It is deflection technique to distract from the incompetent, lazy, self-serving NHS ‘heroes’ who have contrived since 1950 to provide proportionately less at considerable more cost, resulting in a waiting list of 6 million – and growing – after their two years holiday doing less than half the work, on permanent standby for all the CoVid emergencies to flood in. These never came because the CoVid emergencies – such as they were – were already in hospital for other reasons where they were given CoVid by the top-notch hygiene standards of NHS staff, or on geriatric wards waiting to die of whatever they already had.
Time for mass sacking of NHS, shut it din, and for medical care to be a matter for the competitive, private sector. Time people learned to take care of and pay for themselves rather than expect everyone else to do so.
I know all about their top-notch hygiene. As in Addenbrooke’s, Cambridge, where your feet stuck to the filthy floor as you tried to walk. And where hand sanitiser containers were provided, but were empty.
Private quacks? No thanks! A properly run British NHS staffed by British, properly educated, staff is what’s needed.
I’ve always liked the idea of the NHS. Pay or die is not a nice system.
Everybody should have a good basic standard of living – the chance to study, work, earn more if you are diligent. The lazy ones will get no further, those who put in effort deserve, and should get, more.
But the American Capitalist system where the ambulance turns up and looks in your wallet to see if you can afford it….? That’s sick.
The Conservative Party has always hated the idea of the poor having access to free health treatment and have wanted to flog the NHS off, and have mostly succeeded in this. If you voted Conservative and need free hospital treatment or an ambulance and it isn’t there, you only have yourself to blame.
All I can say is wait a few weeks and all of this chatter will count for nothing. Things will be more direct, your emotions won’t count for dick. This pretence that somehow we are are still living in a bourgeois age. Have we really become so stupid that we don’t even prepare for the shortages to come because we feel that we will somehow be exempt from them?
What shortages?
It would be interesting to see a list of predictions, and this time next year be able to look back and see what actually happened.
I remember the predictions last Summer that before Christmas people would be dead from ‘ADE’ from their 2nd jab…. didn’t happen, and, in fact, the triple-jabbed are eagerly awaiting their 4th.
I am not saying getting jabbed is a good idea, I’m just standing back and looking at the facts, and how things stand today.
So all the previous face naps, restrictions and the oh so bloody marvellous vaccine programme has done the total sum of eff all then? Let’s do more of the same and hope to get a different outcome! That is if you believe all the bollox, can’t add up the dots, and see the true agends for what it is. Christ, I’m so bored of it all..
Serco’s Test & Trace not bored of it at all! All that luvvly money Boris and Rishi are handing over to them.
Does anyone know exactly who gave the new T&T contract to Serco? What does T&T even do nowadays? Anyone been to their head office to find out?
The next step is hemorrhagic diseases just becasue they are not only unpleasant to experience but also very unpleasant to witness. Even die hard anti-vaxxers might be scared by airborne Ebola. I guarantee that this will become a greater and greater issue in the coming months. You only have to look at the funding. So be wise to it.
Let’s face it.. The NHS would rather we were locked up screaming in our apartment blocks than they actually solve the problem.
If it’s such an issue, why were the nightingales closed?!
What is their step to normality? Would they like us to remain wearing gags forever?
Well, yes, they would.
“Lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans lobby group Stonewall last year reported that many LGBT NHS staff experience homophobic abuse from colleagues. Now a report from the NHS Equality and Diversity Council suggests NHS black and minority ethnic staff are also more likely to experience discrimination at work. If the NHS does not value diversity and encourage LGBT and BME staff, how can it offer non-discriminatory care?”
https://rcni.com/nursing-standard/opinion/comment/readers-panel-does-nhs-provide-a-positive-working-environment-59196
If you think about it from the point of view of a seeker then our times represent the ultimate revelations on every level. So much is about to come out in the next few weeks. Apocalypse means the lifting of the veil. Revelatory and horrible at the same time is something that we must get used to.
If you’re a British citizen and pay National Insurance and so on, does it cost to be treated by the NHS and be in hospital?
It’s one way Brylcreem Rishi could claw back some of the money lost by importing all the face masks, other PPE, paying for Serco to operate Test’n’Trace, and for the vaccines…. by charging £100/day for a hospital stay.
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Your public services and welfare state are well and truly dead. Perhaps you can munch over the scraps.The reality is much darker in terms of the acceleration of the die off. It was nice when we lived in a sane world but that is all over now.
If the Queen got covid what chance do us mere working class scum have of avoiding it? Even with lockdowns and facemasks.
The Queen didn’t wear a face mask at the G7 meeting – she could have gotten it off Boris.
She also didn’t wear a face mask in Westminster Abbey a couple of weeks ago at the memorial service for Philip.
She’s obviously a risk-taker, and a selfish one at that – did she behave as if she had ‘it’ as the NHS posters suggest? No.
I thought maybe the NHS Confed was a knowledgeable body which might have some appropriate knowledge about epidemiology etc.
I struggled trying to extract any real meaning from what it said about itself – “The NHS Confederation is the membership organisation that brings together, supports and speaks for the whole healthcare system in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.”
So it would appear not to be medical at all but provides a talking shop for senior administrators in the NHS.
Then I thought that Prof Stephen Eames (the top man) might have relevant clinical experience. His main qualification is a masters in Executive Coaching and Development.
Why is their opinion more valid on this topic than any other non-medical person?
I cannot believe that NHS money is used to fund this business.
This is just getting ridiculous , now can a health service like that cannot be prepared to arrange its beds or sort out getting its backlog sorted out .
my question is how long can I and thousands sacrifice my life too save them and protect them , for 7 years 10 years forever ,
They are a absolute disgrace they had 51,000 thousand flu deaths in 2018 and about nearly every bed taken the NHS has been supposedly fall to burst before with seasonal flu for years look at the Guardian Daily mail, articles NHS overwhelmed for the last 20 Years
I hardly use the NHS I am a average curvy weight and size , I just exercise three to four times a week and do some jogging, weights press ups , leg pressers exercise bikes treadmills , and go to the gym three to four times a week ,
I practise yoga about three times a week , I drink water, . I have green smoothies eat lots of carrots broccoli, spinach, peas , potatoes , and have fresh fruit Watermelon Apples , Pears Blueberries , Raspberries, Avocados , and eat organic fish about three times a week
not sure what to do maybe have some health advice from the government new health government advice , give everyone very overweight, or obese education on cooking in schools and also encourage affordable exercise maybe a free gym membership for people overweight or a bit .
Most other diseases like heart disease cancer diabetes steam from lifestyle choices like high sugar foods , and lack of general exercise .
Yet our beloved NHS cannot give a f**k about cancer in healthy young people or children or eating disorders or depression, just Convid a mild disease of the often very obese and elderly, The NHS is a menace how long will we the public sacrifice our lives or be dictated by supposed left wing communist health expert ,
if I wanted a expert I will hire a personal trainer not have some government advisor .
‘Covid’ is just a handy excuse for the Conservative Party to close down the NHS and introduce private-only health care for those who can afford it.
I thought use of Ivermectin to save lives obviated the need to use ventilators which have been judged as the wrong treatment for many Covid patients.
( Oh sorry, so easy to forget – Johnson, Hancock, Javid and Whitty have banned the use of safe cheap and effective Ivermectin.)
I thought you could order Ivermectin through the post, from India? Someone on here keeps advertising it. When you say ‘banned’ do you mean it’s stopped at Customs and destroyed? Is it illegal to order Ivermectin?
The current BNF lists IVERMECTIN Tablets Stromectol 3mg tablets (Imported (France)). However they are not licensed for treatment of covid. They could however be prescribed as an unlicensed medicine by a GP for an off-label use.
How is the vaccine rollout going is it going well has the cases and deaths gone down ,
no it cannot stop transmission or spread or even minimise symptoms and stop variants and why must the young healthy fit have it they do not die, or get very ill .
no one under 80 must get these jabs if they do not want too , I just saw Carol Malone say the NHS is just not working it is getting sinister now it already was sinister, this scamdemic .
I always dread it protect the NHS whatever the cost to mental physical health and your livelihood, I always never clapped for the NHS as I knew where this was going almost like a virtual like 1984 clap for the NHS like the Ministry of Truth a society which abandons Christian moral values, and god religion family values
this society simply now corrupt the public, private sector is run by lots of managers who have no idea how to deal with people or run a effective service.
it is just now Covid I suppose to another scariant comes along even the poorest sheep except for the cut food bank Universal Credit people will go back probably to masks, some social distancing in shops , Trains if told
I pray Boris I cannot trust him but I do hope he sees sense and does not bring these measures back in the autumn winter , I would hope if so most would reject them ,
I am not so sure out and about working in Waitrose lots of people customers mostly fifties and over still wear them , and people a few maybe 10 or 12 in the crowd at SouthBank but thousands where not on the Victoria train back from Baker Street about if 15 were wearing masks, and also I think on the Victoria line about 60 percent were wearing face nappy’s disappointing, on the train to Farringdon, on my Meetup to Brixton,
now I must want protect a socialist health service I am 30 this Year not have children of my own to protect them being overwhelmed which I do by drinking water eating small bits of animal protein and eating vegetables, and fruit . I also would do exercise three to four times a week , I go too the gym regularly.
still The vaccinating of the population continues people get things like strokes super fit footballers have heart attacks children teenagers get kidney problems and myocarditis , yet the jabbing continues almost as if no matter how much harm they cause , they do not care .
There definitely seems to be something worryingly odd going on in the UK, with cases, hospitalisations and deaths on the rise despite Omicron allegedly being far weaker than the earlier manifestations of the COVID virus.
Could the cause be a phenomenon one investigative researcher calls Vaccine Fixation Syndrome? If so, it could led to a debilitating, ongoing epidemic of chronic COVID, which in the medium to long term could have distrous consequences.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine
Government should take note of the comments of a senior government scientist, Mark Woolhouse, (see his book “The Year the World went Mad”) who concluded that the lockdown policy was a mistake. If Boris and others want to impose it again then it will simply confirm their intent to destroy our economy and country.
We need rid of Boris and others in government who support him. We need a replacement by a true Brit who will tell the globalists to take a hike rather than pandering to them.
I endorse that. I bought a copy of that book and posted my review of it a while back.
Speak of the Devil, there it is! An advert for Ivermectin. Cures everything.
This attitude from the medical fraternity, and the Government’s wish to sign a treaty with the WHO, which will enforce us to obey any medical procedures they endorse in a new pandemic situation is abhorrent.
The corrupt, compromised WHO organisation is owned and controlled, like most of the medical regulators around the world, by Big Pharma, Bill Gates and the CCP. To believe that this ghastly cabal has our best interests at heart is,frankly, laughable.
The WHO track record during the pandemic has been disgraceful.
They delayed and covered up the virus release from the Wuhan lab.
They promoted experimental gene editing bioweapons as vaccines, as safe and effective. They have none of these qualities and we will wake up to their horrendous side effects sooner or later. They are not vaccines in any sense of the word, resulting in the WHO changing the definition of a vaccine. Just like they did with “herd immunity “. They have deliberately suppressed any early treatment from cheap, safe very effective drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin, to enable the use of experimental injections for Emergency use authorisation, with full indemnity.
Hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost due to this genocidal policy. Perversely they have promoted very expensive drugs like Remdesiver that have proved very effective at destroying peoples livers.
In short the WHO is a foul, Globalist controlled killing machine designed to make as much money as possible for their disgusting sponsors.
We must stop our government signing this treaty.
You can write (we all can ) but there is not much time before the deadline.
The World Council for Health are encouraging people to write to the WHO regarding the world pandemic preparedness treaty. In summary it would mean that countries could not decide for themselves how to deal with a pandemic they would be bound by whatever the WHO says. The deadline for comment is 13th April so not much time. I am trying to share where I can. https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/news/2022/04/stopthetreaty-comment-who-pandemic-treaty/66422/
Instead of questioning WHY, they just want more of the same.
Utter morons, the lot of them.
Same morons supporting sticking needles in kids arms!!!!!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/602171
What I’ve noticed in recent times is that the government responds with one of its stock replies. In this case, it would be along the lines that ‘vaccines have proved effective in fighting the…blablabla’. So, it effectively stifles debate and it makes me feel like I don’t have voice, which is true of course. Anyone looking for the truth is endlessly sidelined, marginalised, ridiculed and so on. It makes me wonder if we will ever be heard. The dominant narrative is so strong these days it seems we are well and truly beaten but I believe that we can create our own narrative, it just won’t be so obvious. Anyway…long ramble…
The National Hiding Service wishes to bolster the “Skivers Charter”. When real citizens were growing up, they dealt with sniffles and carried on. Don’t see the Ukrainian army stopping fighting due to Covid-19. They have more important matters to attend to.
This needs to stop, and the best way to do that is to hang SAGE members from Westminster bridge. The damage these people have caused is treason.
What obscene sums of taxpayers’ money are trousered by these idiots, who obviously failed to get a job organising a piss up in a brewery?
The fact that the NHS has consistently reduced bed numbers for years and years with consequent reductions in staffing requirements, under the watchful eyes of these incompetents, has absolutely nothing to do with them wetting their pants?
“I suppose all these people in the hospital are vaccinated. My patience is wearing thin with the vaccinated (double, triple or whatever). We should get rid of vaccinated people and isolate them.” (is sarcasm of any use with these non-elected officials?)
the ventilators are what kills people ,any mention of ivermectin here ?, didnt read article.went staright to comments just saw ventilator and saw red
Masks don’t work and cause harm but then so do the management of the NHS.