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“High Chance” of Lockdown 3 in New Year

Bob’s cartoon from the Telegraph ahead of Lockdown II

With full-on panic setting in within Government over the new “mutant super-strain” of coronavirus, sources have been briefing that new lockdowns are coming to the UK. The Telegraph has the details.

A swathe of areas hit by surging coronavirus rates are likely to be placed into Tier 4 restrictions from Boxing Day, ministers will announce on Wednesday. 

Ministers are expected to sign off plans for tougher measures for many areas at a meeting of the Covid-O operations committee as concern grows about the virus mutation spreading from the South-East.

Government sources have warned that there is a “high chance” of a full national lockdown in the New Year.

On Tuesday, Britain recorded 691 Covid deaths – the second highest daily toll since last May and a jump of 20% in one week – while daily cases reached 36,804, the highest number recorded yet.

Under the Boxing Day measures, the worst-hit places will be plunged into Tier 4 – a “stay home” measure akin to lockdown that was introduced in London and much of the South-East earlier this week – and many areas in the lower tiers could be moved to Tier 3, forcing the closure of all pubs, restaurants and non-essential shops.

It’s not clear whether the reference to non-essential shops closing is an editorial mistake or a change in policy that’s been briefed out to the Telegraph, as non-essential shops are not currently closed in Tier 3.

Health officials have blamed the pre-Tier 4 exodus for the spread – odd as the “new” mutant strain has been found all over the country (and world) for several months.

Health officials are concerned that the exodus of large numbers of people from Tier 4 areas into the Midlands and the North has fuelled the spread. On Monday, Sir Patrick Vallance, chief scientific adviser, said cases were “everywhere” and signalled that restrictions are set to increase.

A Government source said: “Changes are expected, including in some areas that are currently on the margins and edges of Tier 4 areas. We’re concerned that some areas have had significant increases in case numbers as a result of the mutation.”

Whitehall sources said there was now “a high chance” that the country would be placed into a third lockdown after Christmas. One said: “The expectation now is that we can get through Christmas, but after that the chances of a full lockdown in the New Year look pretty high.”

The source added that while ministers were reluctant to announce such measures and would prefer to extend the use of Tier 4, “there comes a point where it doesn’t make much sense to stick with it”.

“If the new variant continues to bleed across the country, and we see more cases of it in the North, then there isn’t much of a case for keeping anyone out of Tier 4, so it amounts to a national lockdown, whether it is called it or not,” the source said.

“No decision has been taken, but the numbers look awful – everything is going the wrong way, and the numbers are worse than those that triggered the December lockdown.”

The Mail wonders why PHE only alerted Government scientists to the new variant in December when they had known about it since October, and why the scientists didn’t then pass the information on to ministers for several weeks.

Online records show the first case of the mutated strain was identified in mid-October at Public Health England’s laboratory in Milton Keynes, where experts are studying random samples from Covid-positive Brits to keep track of the virus as it evolves. 

The new variant – named VUI-202012/01 – was detected in a positive swab taken from a patient in Kent on September 20th, when the country was recording just 3,700 daily cases. 

Despite an explosion in infections in October, PHE did not alert the Government or its scientists to the mutated strain’s existence until December, by which point more than 1,100 people were confirmed to have had the new version of the virus. 

At the start of the month information about VUI-202012/01 was passed to the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Advisory Group (NERVTAG) committee, which advises England’s Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty. The group first discussed the strain at a December 11th meeting and began modelling its severity on the UK’s epidemic.

Ministers were not made aware of the variant until last Monday, almost two months after its initial discovery, when they were told it was more infectious and probably behind the continued rise in cases in London and the South East. Even with that information, the Prime Minister insisted on Wednesday that lockdown loosening plans for Christmas would still go ahead, saying it would be “frankly inhuman” to scrap them just days before they came into effect. 

But on Friday, NERVTAG told Professor Whitty that the VUI 202012/01 strain was spreading more quickly and could be up to 70% more infectious than the normal version of the virus. The PM was then presented with the gloomy data the following morning, which led to the screeching Christmas U-turn on Saturday night.  

Independent scientists have also expressed criticisms about the 70% figure after minutes from NERVTAG’s meeting on Friday revealed the expert committee had in fact only “moderate confidence” that the new strain was more transmissible than other variants.   

The return of children to school particularly in Tier 4 areas is now in doubt, says the Times.

Boris Johnson acknowledged for the first time that there were doubts over the planned return of schools in the new term. Asked whether he could guarantee that pupils would go back next month, the Prime Minister said that a staggered return would take place “if we possibly can”. He cautioned that it was common sense to “follow the path of the epidemic” and said that the issue was under constant review.

It’s “too early” for any guarantees, reports the Mail.

Schools could be closed for all of January amid fears that the mutant coronavirus strain spreads more easily among children.

With cases surging in many parts of the country, Downing Street sources admitted yesterday that it was “too early” to guarantee all pupils would be back in their classrooms by January 11.

Officials told the Mail that the reopening of schools was now “all down to the science” surrounding the new strain’s behaviour and its infectiousness in young people.

Should We Be Worried About “Kent Covid”?

Vincent Racaniello, who is Professor of Virology at Columbia University and co-author of the textbook Principles of Virology, explains in a new video why he is not worried about the new virus variant.

The Government’s evidence, he says, is all “circumstantial”, being based in poor epidemiological data rather than biological data, and beset with problems of relying on PCR testing, which “does not detect infectious virus”. The argument of NERVTAG is “completely flawed”, he thinks, and he sees no reason to think this mutation is any more concerning than any of the others that have been identified. “If anything this variant is going to cause less severe disease,” he says.

Well worth a watch.

Ross Clark in the Spectator has crunched the numbers and found there seems no reason to think the new variant is any more virulent (deadly).

If there were a dramatic difference between the death rate between the old and new strains, however, it would presumably start to show up in the regional data given that the variant strain is much more prevalent in London and the South East. Around 60% of new cases in London are now the new variant. So does London have a higher or lower death rate than other parts of the country? One way to get a rough idea is to compare the number of deaths in each region with the ONS data on the prevalence of COVID-19 two weeks earlier – two weeks being the typical delay between a positive test and death, where that occurs.

The results?

For every 1,000 cases in London in the week to November 25th, there were approximately 3.5 deaths in the week to December 11th. The corresponding figure for the South East was 5.3. In the North West, where the new variant was a lot less common, the figure was 3.9. It was 3.5 for the North East, 4.3 for Yorkshire and the Humber, 3.5 for the North East, 6.2 for the West Midlands and 5.1 for the East Midlands.

In other words, no sign of a swelling infection fatality rate. Just swelling panic and hype.

Stop Press: Listen to Professor Angus Dalgleish talking to Ian Collins on talkRADIO about the nonsense of worrying about a “new” variant that has been found all over the world. Prof Dalgleish says he agrees with Matt Ridley in the Telegraph that lockdowns may actually prevent a natural weakening of the disease.

Stop Press 2: David Bonsal of Oxford Viromics wrote a Twitter thread yesterday that essentially cast doubt on NERVTAG’s conclusion that the new variant is more infectious. His conclusion: “Further work is needed to investigate any potential causal link between infection with this new variant and higher viral loads, and whether this results in higher transmissibility, severity of infection, or affects relative rates of symptomatic and asymptomatic infection.”

The bottom line is that the alleged higher transmissibility of the new variant is an inference from Neil Ferguson’s epidemiological modelling and not based on any biological data. It’s just one theory among many as to why cases are increasing in London’s outer boroughs and Kent and far from the most plausible.

Professor Lockdown strikes again!

40,000 Retailers On Brink Even Before Latest Lockdown

Almost 40,000 retail companies in the UK were in “significant financial distress” even before the latest measures in London and the South East forced non-essential shops to shut once again. The Guardian reports.

Research by the insolvency specialist Begbies Traynor found that 39,232 retailers – both online and bricks and mortar operations – were experiencing severe financial problems in the three months to December 9th. This was up 11% on the previous three months and 24% higher than the same period a year earlier.

Julie Palmer, a partner at Begbies Traynor, said the retail sector had been shaken to its foundations and she expected more chains to follow Arcadia Group and Debenhams into administration. “Without doubt this has been one of the toughest years ever experienced in the retail sector,” she said.

The research found that while the worst of the problems have focused on the high street, almost 11,500 online-only retailers were also facing financial difficulties.

Palmer said: “While many industries have been hit hard, retail, which was already suffering a crisis of confidence, has been shaken to its foundations. High-profile administrations such as Arcadia Group and Debenhams not only threaten thousands of jobs, they also raise questions over the future of the high street as we know it, and I expect there to be more as we enter the new year.”

Pubs, restaurants and other hospitality businesses are also struggling to keep going through the rolling coronavirus lockdowns. The research found that more than 7,500 such businesses were in significant distress, a rise of 34% on this time last year and up 20% on the previous quarter of 2020.

Industry leaders sounded the alarm and called on the Government to provide more support as the pound slid and the stock market tumbled over fears over a double dip recession. The Times has more.

The economic support being offered by the government to businesses is “simply not enough” to save thousands from collapse this Christmas in the face of tough new COVID-19 restrictions and disruption at ports, industry leaders have warned.

Sterling endured its steepest daily fall in more than three months yesterday and the FTSE 100 fell 1.73% as dozens of nations shut their borders to Britain after it revealed a mutated strain of COVID-19. Economists warned that the country faces a double-dip recession because of new lockdowns and deadlocked Brexit talks.

In a letter to the prime minister last night, Baroness McGregor-Smith, the president of the British Chambers of Commerce, cautioned that many businesses were “on their knees” and criticised the “constantly shifting goalposts” they are having to navigate as the government changes COVID-19 rules.

She called on Downing Street to offer greater cash grants to businesses hit by restrictions, expand business rates relief across the retail, hospitality and leisure sectors, extend VAT referrals and fill a “huge hole” in support which has left owner-directors, freelancers and others without financial support.

Update from the Senior Doctor…

Barts Health NHS Trust

What follows is a guest post from our doctor friend and regular contributor who used to be a senior NHS panjandrum.

As the COVID miasma thickens and national speculation becomes ever more shrill, Toby has kindly asked me to write an update about what we can actually measure and see in relation to COVID Hospital cases with particular reference to London and the tightening Tier 4 restrictions.

Firstly, the published figures.

Graph 1 shows Covid inpatients in London Hospitals on the brown line and Covid ICU patients in the blue columns. There is a clear long period of stability with an inflexion point upwards, on or around December 13th, which appears to be accelerating into Christmas week.

Graph 1

The pan London figures conceal important regional variations. The North East sector and to a lesser extent the South East have seen relatively greater rises than most other areas. This has been consistent for several weeks. Graph 2 shows the figures for two hospitals in the North East (Barts Health and Barking) and two in the South East (Guys and St Thomas’s and Lewisham and Greenwich). Again, there seems to be an inflexion point around December 13th – 15th. The ICU bed numbers in Graph 3 mirror the increase in patients from the North East with a lag in the South East curves.

Graph 2
Graph 3

Since these figures were published, I’m told that Covid admissions in North East and South East London have continued to increase, particularly in the last 48 hrs, to the point where several hospitals are now implementing plans to stop elective work and redeploy staff to Covid wards. Arrangements for ‘mutual aid’ between hospitals are also being discussed.

This all sounds alarming and reminiscent of Michael Gove’s apocalyptic warnings in the Sunday Times recently. Does it mean the NHS will collapse and dead bodies will pile up in the streets if the entire population does not immediately hide under the bed until next Christmas and Britain turns the clock back to the 14th century?

No, it does not. There is no doubt that pressure on London Hospitals has increased in the last week and that a substantial proportion of that pressure is due to increased Covid admissions from the community. I suspect the next two or three weeks are going to be pretty intense for the NHS in London. Elective work will probably have to stop and patients may need to be moved around the capital to areas of less intense activity. Some staff will need to work outside their comfort zones, which is always stressful. Specialist staff will be spread more thinly than usual and have to shoulder more responsibility than normal. Hospitals will need to pool resources, help each other out and everyone is going to have an uncomfortable time – but the system will not collapse.

The big difference between this year and previous winter ‘crises’ is that Hospital staff are now being repeatedly tested for Covid, regardless of whether they’re symptomatic. I understand that approximately 5% of asymptomatic staff are picked up as positive and then sent home from work. Added to the absence of staff who do have symptoms, or who have been told to self-isolate because some other close contact has tested positive, and this creates a major workforce problem. If we routinely tested staff for influenza or any other common seasonal respiratory disease, we would probably end up with the same problem every year. Under normal circumstances of course we do not test asymptomatic staff for coughs and colds – leaving it up to their own judgement to decide whether they are well enough to come to work. The staff testing programme has been implemented for a perfectly sound reason – to reduce the incidence of in-hospital infections. However, in addressing one risk, the NHS has created another, arguably just as serious. I will return to this point later.

The second big difference between 2020 and previous years is the segregation of patients into colour coded cohorts within the hospital and the overall reduction in available beds due to increased spacing for social distancing – in some hospitals this has reduced bed numbers by up to 9%.

Green Beds are routine patients who have self-isolated prior to admission and have negative tests. Amber are patients awaiting swab results and Red are patients with positive Covid tests. On the face of it, this system sounds quite sensible. In practice, it creates immense organisational friction. For example, a hospital may have plenty of Green beds, but have Amber patients queuing up in A&E, who cannot be placed in any of them. Patients may move from Amber to Red if they become Covid positive, but when they are fit to be discharged, they may occupy an acute Covid bed for days as there is no ‘home’ to send them to. Care homes are particularly reluctant to accept discharged patients after Covid care because of their experience in the spring. Discharge delays happen every year with influenza too, but the problem is worse this winter. As a result, the same burden of clinical care becomes proportionately harder to manage.

So, what has caused the increase in Covid patient numbers? The straight answer is I don’t know. It could be as simple as a change in the weather. Covid is a temperature dependent virus – it dropped off rapidly in late spring. During the summer there were localised outbreaks in isolated cold places, such as meat packing plants (and the first cases have just been detected in Antarctica) so it is not surprising that as the temperature falls we are likely to see more outbreaks and more transmission as people congregate inside and spend less time outdoors.

The burning question in the light of the revelations about the ‘new variant’ VUI-202012/01 is what role, if any, does this play in the observed tightening situation? Hard to say. It’s certainly possible that a new variant could spread with greater speed. In itself that doesn’t matter very much as long as the disease it causes is at least no worse than the old type – in general evolutionary biology one would expect a faster spreading variant to cause a milder illness. If the new variant is spreading significantly faster, the medical problem would not be a greater severity of disease but a more concentrated spike of hospitalisations.

The NERVTAG meeting notes of December 18th which seem to have sparked off the latest panic are relatively cautious about the transmissibility of the new variant, but do record:”It was noted that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during a period when national lockdown measures were in place.”

This brings me to my key point: the illusion of control. In the spring, the rationale for lockdown was to “flatten the sombrero” – a temporary measure to delay viral transmission and prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed by a sudden surge in cases. Since the autumn, that message has mutated to a new variant – the Government and its associated advisers have become obsessed with the need to “control the virus” – yet the evidence shows that they have about as much chance of controlling the weather. Far too many “experts” have invested their entire professional credibility on the premise that more stringent lockdowns are the only way to “beat the virus” and to achieve “zero Covid”. Yet both of these goals are manifestly unattainable.

The Covid admissions curves in London have steepened despite increasing societal restrictions. If it is true that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during this time, why are we doubling down on a failed strategy?

Stop Press: Dr Mike Yeadon is, not surprisingly, sceptical about the “mutant” strain being responsible for the NHS’s capacity problems.

It is my personal opinion that the only way to rescue UK quickly and in one step is to turn off the un-inspected, un-audited, non-accredited, private Lighthouse Labs, now conducting 90% of UK PCR tests. They are producing deficient product: untrustworthy results from PCR mass testing.

I learned earlier today from an impeccable source within the NHS that:

“Management has become totally frustrated by the unmanageable impact of staff falsely told to self isolate following Pillar 2 testing via Lighthouse Labs. Fully 10% of NHS staff are missing. They’re not ill. But having had a positive PCR test they’ve been told to “self isolate” (another made up phrase from the school of misinformation). As from eight days ago, they’ve cut over to self screening using lateral flow tests for viral proteins. Staff have been sent 200 each. If they’re positive they come into to an NHS facility, get swabbed for confirmatory tests by in-house PCR, run in NHS path Labs. Management expects self isolation absence to halve in January”.

If confirmed, that kills confidence of the public in relation to Lighthouse Labs screening stone dead.

Watch the ‘self-isolation’ absence statistics closely over the next four to six weeks.

Stop Press 2: The NHS whistleblower who leaked the slides from an internal Power Point Presentation given to senior managers has provided a snippet of info that corroborates our doctor’s analysis.

Hospital transmission is a major problem and asymptomatic testing has reduced the number of staff available to work. Perhaps we should test for other respiratory viruses? Bath RUH has 233 staff isolating due to Covid. A FOI request for information on the number of staff number isolating across the NHS should be available.

Hospital bed numbers have reduced by 9% to help introduce social distancing. Some new build facilities, e.g North Bristol Trust have reduced bed numbers more than Trusts, e.g. UHB&W, with older hospitals.

Nightingale hospitals are of little value. They need clinical and other support services, e.g. X-ray, blood bank, kitchen – and staff. Would have made more sense to increase capacity at existing hospital sites. For example, portacabin wards in hospital car parks.

No Qualifications or Safeguarding Required for Testing Children

A Lockdown Sceptics reader was alarmed by a letter she received from a recruiting agency this week. She explains why.

I would like to draw your attention to the following matter. I am qualified teacher (MA.Ed) with some 26 years experience in the state, independent and international sectors. I now work wth vulnerable young people who do not attend school. I received the email below from one of the agencies I am registered with. I am deeply concerned about this, both as a teacher and as a mother of teenagers. This suggests that ‘anyone’ can apply for the post of tester. Most professionals would not accept £10 – £12 an hour as pay (teachers regularly get between £25 – £30 from an agency per hour). I am also very concerned about the training, as there are other sources suggesting this will be online. There were also quotes (attached) saying DBS checks will not be required for these people who will perform intrusive, potentially dangerous tests on children (also without social distancing).

There seems to be no safeguarding and I am appalled. I imagine if people refuse to allow ‘anyone’ to test their child, the child will not be able to attend school.

The letter reads:

Apologies if you are not looking for work however I wanted to email in case you were or knew of anyone who was who would be interested in the below in order to help with the new requirements for Covid testing in schools.

As I am sure you are aware, schools and colleges are to start offering testing to all staff and students after the Christmas break. In order to facilitate this, they require assistance in administering these tests and also process some of the administrative work.

The pay for this is £10 – 12 per hour. The hours may vary depending on the school however they will not be less than four hours per day and usually will be more. Training will be arranged as per Government guidance so anyone can apply, if you have a Health and Social Care background or experience in such roles this is advantageous but not compulsory.

Is this something you would be interested in? If so, please reply to this email in the first instance to express your interest and state what experience you have, why you feel you will be good at this type of work, as well as your availability for work from 4th January to carry out these assignments.

If you know of anyone else looking for work who would be interested please ask them to email me.

Another similar letter says recruits will receive “online training” followed by an “on site walk through” on the first day before starting work.

What could go wrong?

Dr Clare Craig with Mark Dolan on talkRADIO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlxLwS1sqw8

A Lockdown Sceptics reader kindly transcribed Dr Clare Craig’s appearance on talk RADIO on Sunday. Here it is.

Mark Dolan: What’s your view about the suggestion this new strain of COVID-19 – and we know that viruses mutate, that’s what they do, multiple times – do you think it’s possible that it’s 70% more transmissible?

Dr Clare Craig: No, I don’t think it is. I think we have to wait for more evidence. So, there are over 3,000 different strains that we’ve seen since the beginning, and people have been working really hard trying to see if any of these differences are meaningful; and what they’ve actually found now is that there’s a strain that’s been around since September, actually, and they’ve started to see an increase in positivity in the lab for this strain but what they reported recently… So they’ve got this new committee called NERVTAG who are looking into it and NERVTAG have said that the positive samples for this new strain are weak positives, are hard to sequence, and have a much lower death rate. Actually the death figures are quite small, so it’s not reliable, but you’d have expected to have seen 20 deaths and they’ve only seen four. So what that looks like to me is they’ve got a problem in the labs. That’s the kind of scenario you would see if one of the lab techs had Covid and was accidentally shedding RNA into the samples that they were testing.

Dolan: Might that explain for the isolated nature of this new outbreak and that it hasn’t manifested globally?

Dr Craig: It would explain that. It would also explain the situation you were just talking about with Grant Shapps, of weddings where there’s an apparent outbreak but nobody has any symptoms.

Dolan: It does seem a little absurd too that Matt Hancock, Health Secretary, yesterday said that we should go around pretending we’ve got the virus. We’ve reached a new level of sort of, what can you call it? Sort of surreal theatre now around this pandemic.

Dr Craig: Yes. I mean, the crazy situation seems to be that: they have one hypothesis about what’s causing all the test positivity, and it’s the most obvious hypothesis, you know, that we still have some Covid out there; but they don’t seem to have the imagination to think about every other possibility and to check it. And they had one strategy, which was lockdown.  Now these people are meant to be scientists, and when you do a lockdown – and it’s the first time that we’ve ever done this – it’s essentially an experiment. So having done it, you have to take a look at the results, and I don’t think any of these scientists have been looking at the results; they just keep repeating the experiment. And we’ve seen, again and again, that these lockdowns do not have the impact that they’re meant to be having. So I think in the very first lockdown – and I would say actually that I wasn’t a lockdown sceptic for the first one; I think I probably should have been, but I was wrong, and I learned from what we found in the first lockdown: which was that the virus kept spreading; that it was weeks later, four or five weeks later, before we had the last peaks and deaths in certain pockets of the country. And it was those pockets of the country that peaked last and had the least deaths that did see a bit of an autumn outbreak of Covid, so it was like the tail end of the first wave, what you saw in the autumn.

We’ve had lockdowns in Wales, we’ve had the lockdowns in the north-west, and every time there’s a lockdown, the case rates increased, and there’s nobody seems to be able to put an answer to that, except for the fact that, when you have a lockdown, you maximise the testing, and, when there’s a testing problem, you’re going to get the maximum error rates from maximum testing.

Dolan: I must say that, you know, I’ve been a stuck record about the fact that there doesn’t seem to be any focus on the human impact of these Covid measures. The debate around the science of lockdowns is certainly a vigorous one to be had, but what we can say, and we can be definitive about this, is that businesses are closing, lives are being ruined, for a population that, by-and-large, are not under any kind of mortal threat from COVID-19; the death rate from this awful virus is mercifully low. However, something of a slam-dunk argument is surely the notion of overflowing hospitals. What is the answer to that, because it does seem like an ace card to be played by the Government?

Dr Craig: I would agree; however, the data does not back that up. So, while we have seen increased numbers of people labelled with Covid in the hospitals, the number of people in the hospital in total isn’t changing, and that’s what you see when you’ve got a labelling problem. You can increase and increase the number of Covid patients, but if that isn’t affecting the total number of patients, then it looks like you’re just misdiagnosing the people that would be in hospital anyway, and that does seem to be the situation we’re in.

But I will say that I think a lot of doctors have got themselves… not just doctors, actually, people who work in hospitals – some of them are coming away fearful that they’re being overwhelmed, and that kind of fear comes from a situation where the flow of the hospital breaks.

So, when you’re trying to keep people separate because they’re Covid positive, or Covid negative and vulnerable or whatever, you stop the bed management being smooth, and that means you can’t get people from A&E into a bed. So A&E can back up, and it can look like the hospital is being overwhelmed, when actually the data shows that it isn’t; it’s just a management problem, because we’re testing all of these people. And, added to it, we’re testing all the staff, and we have mass staff absences from all the testing which obviously does overwhelm the NHS. That’s a real problem.

And we have to get this testing right, because people will die if you don’t staff the hospitals properly. And if you’re sending asymptomatic people home who should be staffing the hospitals on the basis of a potentially wrong test result then, you know, we’re going to end up killing people.

And that’s just a UK problem. I think it’s really important to emphasise that, although the government predicted two hundred thousand deaths from the first lockdown alone in this country, so, absolutely, there are massive, massive implications of all of the interventions we’ve had, even the small interventions; but, on a global scale, what’s happening is horrific. The World Bank reckon there’ll be 150 million in new, extreme poverty. The World Food Programme reckon 217 million people will be starving. And that is because we’re not showing the proper leadership. Our country used to show world leadership and, now, we’re just behaving like a sheep, like all of the other countries, instead of trying to sort this problem out properly.

Poll Positioning

A reader has had a bright idea how lockdown sceptics can make their voices heard a little bit louder: by taking part in opinion polls.

Since the YouGov polls are always showing the public support measures, lockdown sceptics could complete each new poll. I have signed up to YouGov chat polls and get new polls related to Covid into my inbox each week and sometimes multiple times each week. If all of us filled them in, it could have an effect.

Lockdown Sceptics: A Cure For What Ails You

Or just read Lockdown Sceptics

A reader was given an unusual prescription by her GP and wrote in to tell us about it.

Earlier this year I was diagnosed with Gastro-oesophageal reflux disease. My GP suggested that I stop listening to the BBC Radio 4 Today programme over breakfast and read your website instead. It worked. The symptoms have eased and what I was hitherto spending on Gaviscon, I’m now more than happy to donate to Lockdown Sceptics. Thank you.

Round-up

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1341306917076021248?s=21

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Three today: “Long Way To The Light” by Mike Scott, “On My Own (Les Misérables)” by Lea Salonga, and “They Don’t Care About Us” by Michael Jackson.

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Woke Gobbledegook

Ming the Merciless, from the Planet Mongo, not China

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the news that the British Board of Film Classification has declared Ming the Merciless, the archvillain in Flash Gordon, to be a “discriminatory stereotype” and slapped a warning on the 1980 film that the casting of a white actor in the role could be considered “dubious if not outright offensive”. So it’s better if “discriminatory stereotypes” are played by actors of the right background? The Telegraph has the story.

To the generation that grew up watching Flash Gordon, Max von Sydow as Ming the Merciless was one of the great screen villains.

He was also a “discriminatory stereotype”, according to the British Board of Film Classification. The censor has added the warning to its rating for Flash Gordon, saying the casting of a white actor in the role could be considered “dubious if not outright offensive”.

Ming hailed from the Planet Mongo but, the BBFC said, was clearly of East Asian origin.

The organisation will conduct research in the New Year to establish if other old films contain racial stereotypes that need to be caveated for modern audiences.

In a newly-released podcast, the BBFC explained why the stereotype warning had been added.

Matt Tindall, senior policy officer, said: “Flash’s arch-nemesis, Ming the Merciless, is coded as an East Asian character due to his hair and make-up but he’s played by the Swedish actor, Max von Sydow, which I don’t think is something that would happen if this were a modern production and is something we’re also aware that viewers may find dubious, if not outright offensive.

“The character of Ming himself comes from the Flash Gordon comic strips of the 1930s and let’s just say that attitudes towards the acceptability of discriminatory racial stereotypes have moved on considerably since then, and rightly so, of course.

“While the presentation of Ming in Flash Gordon, the 1980s film, isn’t what we would consider a category-defining issue, we’re sensitive to the potential it has to cause offence. So we’ve highlighted it [to ensure] audiences are aware it’s there, and can make an informed decision about whether to watch the film themselves or to show it to their children.”

He added: “This is something we have bear in mind often when we see older films coming in for re-classification: films that might contain discriminatory depictions or stereotypes that are not acceptable to modern audiences, including films where discrimination wasn’t the work’s intent, just a reflection of the period in which it was made.

“This is an issue that we’re currently planning to explore more through research next year, speaking to the public to check that they’re happy with the ways that we’re classifying such films and the way that we classify each use of discrimination more generally.”

Nice to hear they’re thinking of checking with the public for a change, though are likely to regret it when they hear what the public actually thinks.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p, and he’s even said he’ll donate half the money to Lockdown Sceptics, so everyone wins.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.

Stop Press: Costco has announced it has removed the medical exemption from its mask policy. A reader has forwarded us the notice.

Face covering requirements with added face shield requirement for exempt members

Effective 23.12.20, we will require all members, guests and employees to wear a face covering (that covers the nose and mouth) at all Costco warehouse locations. Entry to Costco will only be granted to those wearing a face mask or a face shield. Children under the age of 11 are exempt. Please note that the additional requirement to wear a face shield for children over the age of 11 does not affect the requirement in Scotland for children age five and over to wear a face covering

Costco has had a face covering policy in effect since 24.04.20, but members who could not wear a face mask due to a medical condition were exempt. This is no longer the case. If a member/guest has a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they must instead wear a face shield. The use of a face covering should not be seen as a substitute for social distancing. Please continue to observe rules regarding appropriate distancing while on Costco premises.

Whilst this updated policy may seem inconvenient for some, we believe that the added safety is worth any inconvenience. Our goal is to continue to provide a safe shopping environment for our members and guests, and to provide a safe work environment
for our employees.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

Louie Silveira
Vice President and Country Manager
Costco UK & Iceland

Suffice to say a “face shield” is even less effective at preventing infection or transmission than a cloth mask, though it does at least have fewer drawbacks.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here. Alas, he’s now reached the end of the road, with the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear his appeal. Dolan has no regrets. “We forced SAGE to produce its minutes, got the Government to concede it had not lawfully shut schools, and lit the fire on scrutinizing data and information,” he says. “We also believe our findings and evidence, while not considered properly by the judges, will be of use in the inevitable public inquires which will follow and will help history judge the PM, Matt Hancock and their advisers in the light that they deserve.”

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review in December and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email [email protected] or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

Quotation Corner

We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Mark Twain

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.

Charles Mackay

They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…

Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury

Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

Richard Feynman

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Albert Camus

We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.

Carl Sagan

Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

George Orwell

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius

Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

William Pitt the Younger

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels (attributed)

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

H.L. Mencken

I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.

Thomas Paine

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James007
James007
5 years ago

Sorry to hear about the nastiness. Many of us enjoy reading your posts and updates. You have been on the front line on a lot of battles. I’m T4. I thought cafes were opem for takeaway, which is not much consolation. I expect some people order less if they don’t have anywhere to sit and enjoy it.

At work yesterday, I was allowed to sit down in the seating area of the canteen and enjoy my lunch. I dont know why that was allowed, but simple pleasures. Then I felt silly for being grateful for being allowed to do it.
Odd experience sitting alone in a canteen with a hundred or so chairs.

Enjoy your posts. Hope you can keep the shop open. We would all give you lots of business if we could.

wendyk
wendyk
5 years ago

https://www.aier.org/article/hope-and-freedom-in-georgia/

Sanity and normality-remember them?- in Georgia.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

The story now on Tiffany Dover – the nurse who fainted moments after receiving the vaccine several days ago, is that she faints regularly, about once a month.

She is a nurse.

One wonders what could happen to a patient, if she happened to faint while doing something particularly sensitive.

Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

At least it’s not narcolepsy.

chaos
chaos
5 years ago
Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago

With the ‘discovery’ of yet another new strain the government have created the pretext for perpetual lockdown.How on earth can they know they the Kent strain is 70% more infectious.They would require more knowledge than they can possibly ever have.The South African strain is said to have infected only 2 people.These new strains serve to lock up how many more millions of people and this rubbish is swallowed wholesale by a gullible public and compliant press.
Anytime they need to lock us up they can just invent a new strain.

chaos
chaos
5 years ago

The MP strain must be the worst. Every leader strangely has had it.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

I’ve come to despise scientists and politicians. They have become our jailers, only we’re innocent

Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Politically driven scientists anyway.

karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Ego driven scientists ?

karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago

Just like Joe Stalin forever uncovering new conspiracies so that he could arrest tens of thousands to feed the Gulag and thus create heavy industry with slave labour.

chaos
chaos
5 years ago

‘Brexit deal imminent…’
The end is nigh
The cheque is in the post

ha ha ha ha

vaccines, vaccines for all….

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago

Fear – YouTube

Just seen Hancock has got a role in Hollywood!

karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

Yup, that’s matt.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241002

The US passed a Coronavirus Act which sums up how democracy functions in that country right now. Something with a boilerplate designed to give the impression it is something to do with a deadly virus. It is anything but

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

“You have probably typed the address incorrectly, or the page you were looking for may have been moved or deleted.”

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas
Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago

Watch this, I haven’t laughed as much since I can’t remember when.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQO2YKfAlfk

Mabel Cow
Mabel Cow
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

If those rules were broadcast on the BBC news, half the country would be speaking like that within days.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Mabel Cow

I wonder sometimes what would happen if SAGE came out and said that the virus could be transmitted by eye contact.

Perhaps there would be a new rule mandating that people could only walk in public with bowed heads, so as to prevent inadvertent eye contact.

We would then be walking masked and with bowed heads, six feet apart.

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

no more winking!

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

With communication only in grunts. To be honest this is the sound I hear whenever I observe the bemuzzled shuffling along in their total misery.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Today, it’s satire. Tomorrow, the law of the land.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You get what you confess. Stop it!

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Wonderful!

karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Not completely farfetched,

During Disability Awareness Training attendees were asked to construct a sentence without using the letter S as, apparently, this is a disability for some people.

Wolver
Wolver
5 years ago

Something to hopefully put a smile on some faces. Stick with it well worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQO2YKfAlfk

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  Wolver

Absolutely brilliant. I laughed so much that I forgot you had already posted it, and posted it again (no idea how to delete posts). I feel dizzy!

Wolver
Wolver
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Ha, worth posting twice!

Wolver
Wolver
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

No wonder the Walsh are in constant lockdown, all those consonants…

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Same. Saving that for a few drinks and sharing over Christmas

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Wolver

It’s brilliant! And the laughter in the background is a real tonic!

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

There were no pre-existing conditions for 77 of the 902 Covid-19 related deaths (8.5%).

The Nisra report said: “Dementia and Alzheimer’s disease is by far the most common pre-existing condition, appearing in 36.3% of Covid-19 related deaths.

This may not be surprising given that nearly half (44%) of Covid-19 related deaths up to end September were residents of care homes, and nearly two-thirds (65.5%) were aged 80 or over.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55427659

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

BBC?! Wow. Truth at last!

Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago

The Brompton Cocktail of viruses.

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago

My eve of Christmas eve music is now on Toyah !

Brandy getting low, auto correct now needed on every second word

It’s now on Kate bush…. Mrs OBG is in big trouble unless fall asleep first 🙂

Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  OldBaldGamer

Have you checked out Toyah and Robert’s Lockdown Lunch videos (via her FB page)? Well worth a watch. A hoot.
https://www.facebook.com/toyahofficial/

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago

I fucking love those

Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  OldBaldGamer

Guaranteed to cheer even in dark times OBG.

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago

never realised Fripp was that versatile with a guitar

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago

So when nuclear stuff was all the rage in the 50s they had that nuclear experiment set for kids with uranium and geiger counters. When chemistry was the thing you could just go in a toy shop and buy mercury and shit.

I’m seriously disappointed. When can I go into Smith’s and buy a PCR lab kit and a CRISPR gene editing box set?

“Have fun testing and experimenting on your friends! Share the possibilities, see the mutations!”

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago

I increasingly find that typing “fuck” on the internet, and swearing at mongs who jump in the road very satisfying.

I also self medicate with a bottle of Brandy and several cans of beer, and rather a lot of loud music.

I saw Adam Ant play at Chinnerys in Southend a few years ago, proper old school fun, my son had played that same stage a week earlier. fucking proud as fuck (Mr ant was awesome too !)

I don’t think old life will come back now, but I’ll be damned if the cunts will hurt my family.
They can get through me first. They will probably win in the end, but lets let them fucking earn every inch.

This pointless hyperbole is brought to you by the Society of Essex drunks (well my house house and Mrs OBG, 2 is a start)

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

I noted with interest the following from the professor Angus Dalgleish (Scottish by any chance?) interview in relation to the coming lockdown: “How long are you going to do this?… This is not going to be the last of these variants… Are you going to keep locking down until the economy is unsalvageable, because it is getting pretty close to that. People are bereft… their firms have… collapsed…they’re not going to survive because of this”.
N ow there has been some speculation that the craven UK public will go along with this nonsense however bad things get economically. I know well enough things are bad. I may be way off. Still, I wonder. My experience is that peo0ple don’t like having money taken from then. Think of the poll tax riots (when the island of Eigg talked about independence from the UK to avoid it. Or the congestion charge where even in left wing student town Manchester, a large majority voted against. If the economy does become “unsalvageable”, with all that that implies, I wonder if there might just be a peasants revolt. I would tentatively suggest that one of two things might happen in the next thgree to six… Read more »

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The real shitshow begins with hyperinflation, or with the measures governments take to try and stop hyperinflation – like putting limits on the amount you can spend per day.

Mark my words – this whole economy/society is going down and not even a fake pandemic can save it.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Is property a good buy now? Or making extra mortgage payments? Be interested to hear people’s thoughts about how best to ameliorate oneself from at least some of the economic shit heading our way.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

If you can buy cash…. yes. Mortgage? I personally wouldn’t touch it. Shift out of bonds and currency reserves. Tangibles are best. Metals in your possession. (Possession is 90% of the law and all that).

Ultimately depends on your personal situation of course and what is you plan to do to safeguard yourself. For us, that was goig off grid. For some, it’s buying gold and silver. Others are buying food and livestock. It takes a lot of thinking and looking at where you are now, what you want the future to look like and what the people ruling this shitshow want the future to look like.

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

China cyber currency ?

Steven Jackson
Steven Jackson
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

The problem with bricks and mortar : They know it’s there and they can easily tax it more …and more

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

The entire western economy will collapse next October 2021 (as per the plan)

Grab some shares in Tech, some Gold coins (in your hand) no too much cash.

Expect Martial law the full works, almost impossible to survive what’s coming.

Everything will be Verboten / confiscated you (me /we) wont survive it, might be worth a try though just in case they fuck it up

Despite my Drunken Essex sweary persona, I was the head of a Treasury desk in the City for 20 years. (At a large Japanese Bank) I even have a worthless degree in Economics ( I am a sound money “mises” man Myself, not that anyone cares about sound money anymore.)

Alchol is affecting typing skills, soz for typo’s etc

Day 275 of lockdown
Day 275 of lockdown
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

I paid off mortgage with savings. Not sure if a good move but feels better. Now investing in crypto.

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago

Any recommendations for the best exchanges to use for a first-time buyer of crypto?

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

The best exchange i used was binance. I’d be careful with crypto though it’s had a bullish run but due a correction IMHO.
Also, the whole ordeal of holding your crypto in a wallet is a bit of a faff in itself or certainly it was for me a year or so ago. Not trying to neg though good luck to those who do invest.

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

Thanks, this is in line with what others have told me. Risky and difficult.

NickR
NickR
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Watch Bitcoin go, just don’t get left holding the baby when it crashes.
Income bearing assets, so property if you have cash. If you want to stay in UK stay in £s. But always remember every time you buy something someone is selling it, & everytime you sell something someone is buying it. Every price is at the mid-point between optimists & pessimists. You’ll be right or you’ll be wrong and no one knows which until you sell.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  NickR

One of my thoughts of late is to buy Chinese Yuan given they’ve not set about to sabotage there economy?

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  NickR

Thanks for the advice. Crypto is seriously risky for sure, but I have a horrible feeling my cash savings are going to devalue substantially in 2021. Gold and silver are more stable obviously, but not much use unless you physically own the metals. And in a full-on crash, these will be difficult to use and a security risk. Nice problem to have I guess.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

They are planning for the end of cash.The Chancellor and the head of the ECB have openly called for the creation of a digital currency.
Hyper inflation is on its way as the only way the government can pay its bills is by printing money.
This will create bubbles as the funny money chases after real assets.Property,shares etc will soar then will burst one by one.
Then who knows what will happen.
I think this is the biggest piece of evidence for a conspiracy.A government this cavalier with the public finances would have been punished by now yet the show continues with no end in sight.

TimeIsNow
TimeIsNow
5 years ago

Can’t disagree. Massive inflation soon.

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

No escape from the collapse, still worth a punt of course (coins etc crypto not good if T’internet goes dark for a week.)

You didn’t think that google outage last week was a mistake did you, or all those mysterious Cashpoint / IT failures at UK banks last year…..

Please pay attention.

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

What are your thoughts on cryptocurrency?

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Well I’m being squeezed on XRP this week so ask me in about 6 months. It’s looking cheap now but people are selling for a reason

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

pointless if the internet goes down

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

When it comes to cryptocurrencies I always recommend the snowflake

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Hyper deflation I think.

Huge debt far greater than anything they can reasonably print.

Cash will still be worthless in a currency reset of course.

NickR
NickR
5 years ago
Reply to  OldBaldGamer

The things to watch for will be co-ordinated debt write-offs (like Gordon Brown was advocating for Africa in early 2000s), not sure how it would work, good bank/bad bank model?
Bill Gates, maybe Elon Musk or some other such figure standing for President. Not sure what it would mean but it would set tongues wagging.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The people won’t be revolting, because everyone will be bribed with the Great Reset. They know the game they’re playing, and because the moron masses are incapable of reading the fine print (or a medical insert leaflet), they are quite excited to have all their debt written off in exchange for their microdot, blockchain slavery.

This is happening. It’s no mystery. It’s been in the works for YEARS; they just waited for the right crisis to roll it out. (Waited? Or hatched?)

This website has hours of videos (always with links to original sources) if you want to investgate: https://www.corbettreport.com/

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

The ‘Great Reset’ idea is built on sand.

It may well make things worse-

Central planning always makes things worse.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Indeed! It’s insane. But that won’t stop them inflicting it on us.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

It seems way premature. Surely, the intention would be to tie the reset to automation, whereby the efficiencies of automation pay for mass UBI of the population.

This was always my understanding of how UBI would be rolled out. In it’s present state I can just see vast swathes of populations throughout the West living in abject poverty. I do not believe former business owners as part of the middle class would take such an outcome lightly.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

Excellent point. Automation is happening regardless. Whether it takes up the strain and allows for something like UBI is another matter. People need to be invested in valuable enterprise. However that is a vague concept. And as soon as the technocrats try and define that I think its doomed to failure.

Only the people get to decide that. Freedom needs a reset, democracy needs to be rediscovered

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

(Edit not working so typos’ll have to remain).

I didn’t think things would last this long after 2008, so they may be able to kick the can down the road another few years, however, my sense is that this is unsustainable, and that the longer they put off balancing the books, the worse it’ll be in the end.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I think you are right we never recovered from 2008 because the fuckers still had to pursue an unregulated environment. The fiat system is going to shit god knows what will fall out of this.

PoshPanic
PoshPanic
5 years ago

From a fellow Essex boy. Says exactly what’s wrong with the world right now..

https://twitter.com/EssexPR/status/1341701070742036480

I cant open with tables 2m apart yet half my Insta are posting pics on aeroplanes to Dubai/Tenerife (good luck to them)
Weird pandemic

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I’m in Southend, if you and yours ever fancy a pint, its on me

And somewhat against popular opinion I can use both a Knife and fork

wayno
wayno
5 years ago
Reply to  OldBaldGamer

Is the pink toothbrush still there in reighley?

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago
Reply to  wayno

Contact us — The pink toothbrush

I’m 54 mate, it’s not exactly my local.

If you are ever in Southend join the local resistance.

wayno
wayno
5 years ago
Reply to  OldBaldGamer

Had many a happy night in there early 2000s when I lived in wickford

wayno
wayno
5 years ago
Reply to  OldBaldGamer

I now have my own resistance back in Lancashire. But if I ever get back down that neck of the woods ill be up for a pint in sawfend.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

For anyone out there looking to reset their scepticism on Christmas Day, set the day up nicely, Richie Allen is doing two hours of his show.

https://mobile.twitter.com/richie_allen?lang=en

Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago

Interesting stats as an unanticipated output from Singapore’s rotten treatment of its migrant workforce i.e. banging them up for the duration.
https://www.aier.org/article/singapores-covid-experience-and-overestimated-death-rates/

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

From the article:

“The most interesting statistic to come out of this incident is that despite all the horrific circumstances these migrant workers endured, there were only two deaths and 25 admissions to the ICU. With a virus prevalence rate of over 152,000 that gives us an infection fatality rate of around .0013% and a hospitalization rate of around .016%.”

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

I heard something similar last night re the UK prison population. Not sure how valid. Early on rampant infection was mentioned but nothing recently.

Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

Local source says reports of high C-19 infection in Sheppey prisons (one alleged origin of Kentish Flu) all balls.

Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago

I meant to add “…banging them up for the duration and testing the f out of them.”

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

Pfizer C-19 vaccine.Anaphylaxis.Number 11 Maine(1/8000).Number 12 Alabama(1/15000) number 13 New York( 1 in 30000)

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1341870979874779137/photo/1

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1341868069480755200
 

Just about sane
Just about sane
5 years ago

Trying my hardest to stay sane. Another holiday cancelled, lockdown on boxing day with no reprieve, schools look to be closed, my husbands starting to lose work, not sure if I’ll have the one part time job left after Christmas, the idiots down south scaremongering with mutant virus, the witch in Edinburgh scaring the Scots even more, more people wearing face cloths outside, men turning to mush and jumping out my way when trying to pass me, I’m 5ft and just over 8 stone so definitely scary, heck if I coughed it would hit their midriff, I know I won’t be rescued by any of them in a real crisis and the best part to this shit is thee event of this shit y year, more door step shite, the Christmas jingle. These parents are encouraging everyone to stand on their doorstep tomorrow at 6pm and ring a bell for 2 flipping minutes to spread cheer and “After this very difficult year it will be an amazing memory for the kids and communities”

Pass me the sick bucket someone and ask Scotty to beam me up please.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

Anger is the absolute right emotion.

Mabel Cow
Mabel Cow
5 years ago

Perhaps we should stand on our doorsteps tomorrow at 6pm and play Boris Johnson is a Fucking Cunt. That would certainly spread some cheer for me.

(I’ll tell you what, I’m really enjoying typing “Boris Johnson is a Fucking Cunt” into search engines. And I’ve been singing that song to myself all day. Shame there isn’t a line in there about Wanksock, but you can’t have everything.)

Dan Clarke
Dan Clarke
5 years ago

We need to stay angry, how bloody dare they wreck our lives like this

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Clarke

They are playing a simple game of psychology. They want to engender learned helplessness.

Dan Clarke
Dan Clarke
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

creating a cult is not hard, if you keep repeating the same things they stick, with some

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Clarke

Certainly isn’t hard and it has been done many times before, just not on this scale or time frame.

The problem is that this whole thing seems to resemble Heaven’s Gate Away Team more than Christianity.

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Clarke

I am looking forward to lots of confrontations with colleagues in 2021. They are going to be sick of the sight of my name. Eventually they’ll be rid of me of course.

TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Same here Richard. I’m getting more and more vocal at work and it is beginning to show some success – interestingly I have noticed much more success when challenging it in a group rather than individually (it’s like I have more credibility if I do it against a big herd). New year’s resolution is going to be to not hold back and say it how it is all the time. I may get fired but I’m lucky enough to have in demand skills so until the economic destruction manifests fully, I can get a new job and repeat.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Clarke

Yes, you’re quite right…. anger is better than depression! But goddamn it, I’m so tired. Who has the methamphetamines? Lol!

Danny
Danny
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Clarke

I agree completely. Like many here, I will not wear a mask and have suffered abuse for that stance. I have protested and marched. I have reasoned with people. I have put up posters. I have tried persuasion, empathy, humour, contempt, confrontation, indifference.
Like many, I pinned my hopes on just making it to a normal, family Xmas, worry about the rest later in the new year, but even that has now been crippled.
I know that I cannot just sit back and watch us all go down this path, for my daughter if not even for me.
But my question now is what can we do?
I have to believe, from the way that people throw off their mask upon leaving a store, from how busy cafes and pubs were tonight, that the majority follow these rules but do not agree.
But all the time we are marginalised and kept to forums and chat rooms, we are alone.
WE have to organise now. This is no longer panic and a government blunder. No government is THAT useless. They are arrayed against the people. We need to fight back. I am a former Corbyn voting remainer, happy to stand alongside… Read more »

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Danny

Heartily agree.

Local offline groups -as well as online – is the way to go.

Building resistance from the ground up.

Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
5 years ago

Is the word futile unknown to them?

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

Two days before Christmas, and I am thoroughly miserable. Unable to even get the tree up. The turkey is still in the freezer. I’m not miserable because the perpetual state of things has taken me by surprise. I’m miserable, because it hasn’t. 2020 – as utterly shit as it was – will be the last good year we ever had. New Year’s Eve isn’t going to be exciting. It’s going to feel like a death.

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I came back from my last (ever?) foreign trip in early March 2020. Three weeks later we were in lockdown. The rest, as they say, is history.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

You’re not alone, although losing mum is a big contributor for me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Yup, I feel you on that one. Although – in a twisted way – I’m relieved my mother doesn’t have to go through this nonsense now.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Mine neither.

Tom in Scotland
Tom in Scotland
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Same with me. My mother died in January after many bedridden years with MS. She was just developing some dementia and it would have been horrible for her to see her carer and others in masks. I’m so relieved that she is not around for this dystopia.

TJN
TJN
5 years ago

This mini thread has given me a Christmas idea: raise a glass to missing Mums.

Best wishes to you all.

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Gotta get up and fight, Tylean – or they win.
Cook the f***ing turkey – have a drink or three – sing loud and long.

PoshPanic
PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

Yep, sing loud, but make sure to defrost the Turkey

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Indeed! I’ll have to do it in water now. Not enough time to fridge defrost!

Steve
Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

You’ve still got time normally takes 24hrs. Don’t let them win. Have your Christmas as close to normal as possible.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

I’ve been….. that’s the problem…. I’ve been fighting and prepping and speaking the truth since the very beginning of the hysteria. I’m exhausted, and none of my efforts made any difference. No on has listened to me…. I’ve just lost friends who stopped replying to me. Even my own sister ghosted me. One family suicide from lockdown. My plate was already three times as full as your average able-bodied person (of which, I’m not) before all this kicked off, and I have nothing left to give.

Jane G
Jane G
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Get the turkey out of the freezer then go to bed.
Sleep helps (provides an escape, anyway)
Stay strong ; I sure loads of us will be here on Christmas day, sober or not.

OldBaldGamer
OldBaldGamer
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

You are never alone,

We might be few, but they will know our names, make them fucking earn it, every fucking inch.

I swear I’ll take some of the cunts with me

Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I wish I had words of comfort. Your plate sounds very full, but I agree that you should cook the turkey and not let them win. Celebrate to the extent you can and don’t communicate with anyone who isn’t already on your side. For at least a few days don’t bother trying to convince anyone of anything and just relax and take care of yourself. I know it’s dispiriting — we’re in total lockdown as of Boxing Day, but some family members are breaking the rules to come and visit and that gives me some comfort. Hang in there; you’ve got lots of friends here who don’t need convincing of anything.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

A few drinks might help though, lol!

DJ Dod
DJ Dod
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I’ve been taking a lot more empties to the bottle bank since this nonsense started!

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Hopefully Scotland will be returned to sanity some time soon and when it does we can come up your way again without let or hindrance and say hi.

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I know how you feel. I’m just not interested in Christmas this year. What the hell is there to celebrate?

What makes me feel worse about it is that my little ones are, naturally, so excited about Santa coming and the rest. Sort of adds guilt to my glumness.

Then again none of this is down to me, I didn’t do it, and I haven’t gone insane. Fuck the lot of them.

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

Bill de Blasio Mayor New York
Hooray covid tyranny!

“We’re going to have sheriff’s deputies go to the home or the hotel of every single traveler coming in from the UK.”

https://twitter.com/nj_hill/status/1341815172780990465

PoshPanic
PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

There goes that dream New York Christmas break

Joseph
Joseph
5 years ago

So what would everyone say are their expectations or hopes for the next few months/2021?

For me…

1) EXPECTATIONS

Tier 4 spreads further in the next few weeks By the end of January, the whole country is in Tier 4 Vaccine rollout continues, media plays up the drip, drip and rollout blunders By the end of February, government discussing % of people vaccinated so far vs % ‘required to ease restrictions’. Some areas move back down to tier 3. By early March, public (guided by media) in two camps, the vaccinated vs the hold-outs. Through March and April ‘progress being made but more people need to be vaccinated’. Public encouraged via media to pressure friends and family to take up jab. Towards end of April, tiers largely reduced nationwide to a mix of 1 and 2. Face coverings remain mandatory. Furlough scheme ends at the end of April. May onwards, country back in tier 1 nationwide. Most people relieved as it’s ‘normal enough’ but face coverings are still mandatory, and rule of 6 required in hospitality. Tests/vaccine certificates required for entry to live sport, festivals in summer 2021 and beyond. 2) HOPES

Oxford vaccine approved before end of 2020 Rollout… Read more »

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I more or less concur with your expectations. However I think anything less than Tier 3 at any point in 2021 is ambitious. Also, the economy is not mentioned (e.g. 10 million unemployed after the end of furlough, total collapse of high street retail, travel and hospitality sectors etc.).

The Oxford vaccine is likely to be approved by the MHRA next week, so your first hope will be fulfilled. Looking at the rest of your list of hopes, I am shocked that they sound so wonderful. Shows you just how much our lives have changed in 2020.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

Personally it varies depending on my good/bad days. All I expect for certain is we will keep resisting as much as we can, come what may.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Agreed. Resistance is a moral obligation. But I have a low opinion of the human these days

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I have no expectations because this is unprecedented. Never thought the media, politicians and the NHS could lie and distort as they have. It’s quite shocking. Also, never thought there were so many good Nazis in the UK. The Left and the unions have totally betrayed humanity

I hope Keir Starmer doesn’t become PM. If that happens, we’ll be in big trouble

PoshPanic
PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

We’ll all be very grey as well

Sodastream
Sodastream
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I wish!

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I think this is way too optimistic, they are on a roll. If they are willing to screw Christmas over, destroy vast swathes of businesses, borrow money ad infinitum and cry wolf about “mutants” then I expect more horror stories, more blaming of those who resist vaccines and more stringent use of tiers and restrictions into next winter.

They will also start to tie the narrative into the Great Reset and the benefits of having a “controlled” and “safe” society.

We ain’t seen nothing yet.

Achilles
Achilles
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

Right now your expectations look like my best case. I haven’t got the imagination to think what new hells they can come up with at the drop of a hat. They have shown that they have no moral boundaries, that’s what scares me.

Now More Than Ever
Now More Than Ever
5 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

Yes, I’m definitely travelling more in expectation than hope right now.

Jakehadlee
Jakehadlee
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

Hope: Violence
Expectations: Violence

PoshPanic
PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I have one hope for the new year and that’s a great reset. But not the one they’re planning on.

Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I hope to drink at least twice my own weight in white wine, finish reading Ulysses after 40 years trying and hit that V5 boulder problem at the climbing wall.

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago

All at the same time ?! Respect …

TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

Expectations: They will keep digging their hole deeper and deeper, unable to reverse out of it until we are at the point of executing anti-vaxers with flak cannons.

Hopes: One of them will monumentally fuck it up and let the cat out of the bag irreversably (my money is on Jenrick, but it could be any world politician).

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  Joseph

I agree-maybe everyone in Tier 3/4 by the 30th Dec and no let up until end of Feb.
 “% of people vaccinated so far vs % ‘required to ease restrictions” will be the key.
In my book I’m keeping my hands in my pockets re spending until there is a relaxation in the rules. I’ll do my own trade off: relax the rules-I spend money.

Gleepoid
Gleepoid
5 years ago

Therein lies the real problem

John Galt
John Galt
5 years ago

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dommo
dommo
5 years ago

could it be that they know it’s all a big lie?

https://twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1341834363068100610

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  dommo

Great find. It’s the same everywhere of course.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  dommo

I am in another country and the content is blocked.

Can you give me an idea what it is about and whose Twitter that is?

Thanks.

Richard O
Richard O
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas
calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Cheers Richard.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  dommo

Well, if I really thought such a deadly disease was going about – one that justified these measures, then not only would I not break these rules; I wouldn’t go to these meetings.

They know it’s a lie.

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