“High Chance” of Lockdown 3 in New Year
With full-on panic setting in within Government over the new “mutant super-strain” of coronavirus, sources have been briefing that new lockdowns are coming to the UK. The Telegraph has the details.
A swathe of areas hit by surging coronavirus rates are likely to be placed into Tier 4 restrictions from Boxing Day, ministers will announce on Wednesday.
Ministers are expected to sign off plans for tougher measures for many areas at a meeting of the Covid-O operations committee as concern grows about the virus mutation spreading from the South-East.
Government sources have warned that there is a “high chance” of a full national lockdown in the New Year.
On Tuesday, Britain recorded 691 Covid deaths – the second highest daily toll since last May and a jump of 20% in one week – while daily cases reached 36,804, the highest number recorded yet.
Under the Boxing Day measures, the worst-hit places will be plunged into Tier 4 – a “stay home” measure akin to lockdown that was introduced in London and much of the South-East earlier this week – and many areas in the lower tiers could be moved to Tier 3, forcing the closure of all pubs, restaurants and non-essential shops.
It’s not clear whether the reference to non-essential shops closing is an editorial mistake or a change in policy that’s been briefed out to the Telegraph, as non-essential shops are not currently closed in Tier 3.
Health officials have blamed the pre-Tier 4 exodus for the spread – odd as the “new” mutant strain has been found all over the country (and world) for several months.
Health officials are concerned that the exodus of large numbers of people from Tier 4 areas into the Midlands and the North has fuelled the spread. On Monday, Sir Patrick Vallance, chief scientific adviser, said cases were “everywhere” and signalled that restrictions are set to increase.
A Government source said: “Changes are expected, including in some areas that are currently on the margins and edges of Tier 4 areas. We’re concerned that some areas have had significant increases in case numbers as a result of the mutation.”
Whitehall sources said there was now “a high chance” that the country would be placed into a third lockdown after Christmas. One said: “The expectation now is that we can get through Christmas, but after that the chances of a full lockdown in the New Year look pretty high.”
The source added that while ministers were reluctant to announce such measures and would prefer to extend the use of Tier 4, “there comes a point where it doesn’t make much sense to stick with it”.
“If the new variant continues to bleed across the country, and we see more cases of it in the North, then there isn’t much of a case for keeping anyone out of Tier 4, so it amounts to a national lockdown, whether it is called it or not,” the source said.
“No decision has been taken, but the numbers look awful – everything is going the wrong way, and the numbers are worse than those that triggered the December lockdown.”
The Mail wonders why PHE only alerted Government scientists to the new variant in December when they had known about it since October, and why the scientists didn’t then pass the information on to ministers for several weeks.
Online records show the first case of the mutated strain was identified in mid-October at Public Health England’s laboratory in Milton Keynes, where experts are studying random samples from Covid-positive Brits to keep track of the virus as it evolves.
The new variant – named VUI-202012/01 – was detected in a positive swab taken from a patient in Kent on September 20th, when the country was recording just 3,700 daily cases.
Despite an explosion in infections in October, PHE did not alert the Government or its scientists to the mutated strain’s existence until December, by which point more than 1,100 people were confirmed to have had the new version of the virus.
At the start of the month information about VUI-202012/01 was passed to the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Advisory Group (NERVTAG) committee, which advises England’s Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty. The group first discussed the strain at a December 11th meeting and began modelling its severity on the UK’s epidemic.
Ministers were not made aware of the variant until last Monday, almost two months after its initial discovery, when they were told it was more infectious and probably behind the continued rise in cases in London and the South East. Even with that information, the Prime Minister insisted on Wednesday that lockdown loosening plans for Christmas would still go ahead, saying it would be “frankly inhuman” to scrap them just days before they came into effect.
But on Friday, NERVTAG told Professor Whitty that the VUI 202012/01 strain was spreading more quickly and could be up to 70% more infectious than the normal version of the virus. The PM was then presented with the gloomy data the following morning, which led to the screeching Christmas U-turn on Saturday night.
Independent scientists have also expressed criticisms about the 70% figure after minutes from NERVTAG’s meeting on Friday revealed the expert committee had in fact only “moderate confidence” that the new strain was more transmissible than other variants.
The return of children to school particularly in Tier 4 areas is now in doubt, says the Times.
Boris Johnson acknowledged for the first time that there were doubts over the planned return of schools in the new term. Asked whether he could guarantee that pupils would go back next month, the Prime Minister said that a staggered return would take place “if we possibly can”. He cautioned that it was common sense to “follow the path of the epidemic” and said that the issue was under constant review.
It’s “too early” for any guarantees, reports the Mail.
Schools could be closed for all of January amid fears that the mutant coronavirus strain spreads more easily among children.
With cases surging in many parts of the country, Downing Street sources admitted yesterday that it was “too early” to guarantee all pupils would be back in their classrooms by January 11.
Officials told the Mail that the reopening of schools was now “all down to the science” surrounding the new strain’s behaviour and its infectiousness in young people.
Should We Be Worried About “Kent Covid”?
Vincent Racaniello, who is Professor of Virology at Columbia University and co-author of the textbook Principles of Virology, explains in a new video why he is not worried about the new virus variant.
The Government’s evidence, he says, is all “circumstantial”, being based in poor epidemiological data rather than biological data, and beset with problems of relying on PCR testing, which “does not detect infectious virus”. The argument of NERVTAG is “completely flawed”, he thinks, and he sees no reason to think this mutation is any more concerning than any of the others that have been identified. “If anything this variant is going to cause less severe disease,” he says.
Well worth a watch.
Ross Clark in the Spectator has crunched the numbers and found there seems no reason to think the new variant is any more virulent (deadly).
If there were a dramatic difference between the death rate between the old and new strains, however, it would presumably start to show up in the regional data given that the variant strain is much more prevalent in London and the South East. Around 60% of new cases in London are now the new variant. So does London have a higher or lower death rate than other parts of the country? One way to get a rough idea is to compare the number of deaths in each region with the ONS data on the prevalence of COVID-19 two weeks earlier – two weeks being the typical delay between a positive test and death, where that occurs.
The results?
For every 1,000 cases in London in the week to November 25th, there were approximately 3.5 deaths in the week to December 11th. The corresponding figure for the South East was 5.3. In the North West, where the new variant was a lot less common, the figure was 3.9. It was 3.5 for the North East, 4.3 for Yorkshire and the Humber, 3.5 for the North East, 6.2 for the West Midlands and 5.1 for the East Midlands.
In other words, no sign of a swelling infection fatality rate. Just swelling panic and hype.
Stop Press: Listen to Professor Angus Dalgleish talking to Ian Collins on talkRADIO about the nonsense of worrying about a “new” variant that has been found all over the world. Prof Dalgleish says he agrees with Matt Ridley in the Telegraph that lockdowns may actually prevent a natural weakening of the disease.
Stop Press 2: David Bonsal of Oxford Viromics wrote a Twitter thread yesterday that essentially cast doubt on NERVTAG’s conclusion that the new variant is more infectious. His conclusion: “Further work is needed to investigate any potential causal link between infection with this new variant and higher viral loads, and whether this results in higher transmissibility, severity of infection, or affects relative rates of symptomatic and asymptomatic infection.”
The bottom line is that the alleged higher transmissibility of the new variant is an inference from Neil Ferguson’s epidemiological modelling and not based on any biological data. It’s just one theory among many as to why cases are increasing in London’s outer boroughs and Kent and far from the most plausible.
Professor Lockdown strikes again!
40,000 Retailers On Brink Even Before Latest Lockdown
Almost 40,000 retail companies in the UK were in “significant financial distress” even before the latest measures in London and the South East forced non-essential shops to shut once again. The Guardian reports.
Research by the insolvency specialist Begbies Traynor found that 39,232 retailers – both online and bricks and mortar operations – were experiencing severe financial problems in the three months to December 9th. This was up 11% on the previous three months and 24% higher than the same period a year earlier.
Julie Palmer, a partner at Begbies Traynor, said the retail sector had been shaken to its foundations and she expected more chains to follow Arcadia Group and Debenhams into administration. “Without doubt this has been one of the toughest years ever experienced in the retail sector,” she said.
The research found that while the worst of the problems have focused on the high street, almost 11,500 online-only retailers were also facing financial difficulties.
Palmer said: “While many industries have been hit hard, retail, which was already suffering a crisis of confidence, has been shaken to its foundations. High-profile administrations such as Arcadia Group and Debenhams not only threaten thousands of jobs, they also raise questions over the future of the high street as we know it, and I expect there to be more as we enter the new year.”
Pubs, restaurants and other hospitality businesses are also struggling to keep going through the rolling coronavirus lockdowns. The research found that more than 7,500 such businesses were in significant distress, a rise of 34% on this time last year and up 20% on the previous quarter of 2020.
Industry leaders sounded the alarm and called on the Government to provide more support as the pound slid and the stock market tumbled over fears over a double dip recession. The Times has more.
The economic support being offered by the government to businesses is “simply not enough” to save thousands from collapse this Christmas in the face of tough new COVID-19 restrictions and disruption at ports, industry leaders have warned.
Sterling endured its steepest daily fall in more than three months yesterday and the FTSE 100 fell 1.73% as dozens of nations shut their borders to Britain after it revealed a mutated strain of COVID-19. Economists warned that the country faces a double-dip recession because of new lockdowns and deadlocked Brexit talks.
In a letter to the prime minister last night, Baroness McGregor-Smith, the president of the British Chambers of Commerce, cautioned that many businesses were “on their knees” and criticised the “constantly shifting goalposts” they are having to navigate as the government changes COVID-19 rules.
She called on Downing Street to offer greater cash grants to businesses hit by restrictions, expand business rates relief across the retail, hospitality and leisure sectors, extend VAT referrals and fill a “huge hole” in support which has left owner-directors, freelancers and others without financial support.
Update from the Senior Doctor…
What follows is a guest post from our doctor friend and regular contributor who used to be a senior NHS panjandrum.
As the COVID miasma thickens and national speculation becomes ever more shrill, Toby has kindly asked me to write an update about what we can actually measure and see in relation to COVID Hospital cases with particular reference to London and the tightening Tier 4 restrictions.
Firstly, the published figures.
Graph 1 shows Covid inpatients in London Hospitals on the brown line and Covid ICU patients in the blue columns. There is a clear long period of stability with an inflexion point upwards, on or around December 13th, which appears to be accelerating into Christmas week.
The pan London figures conceal important regional variations. The North East sector and to a lesser extent the South East have seen relatively greater rises than most other areas. This has been consistent for several weeks. Graph 2 shows the figures for two hospitals in the North East (Barts Health and Barking) and two in the South East (Guys and St Thomas’s and Lewisham and Greenwich). Again, there seems to be an inflexion point around December 13th – 15th. The ICU bed numbers in Graph 3 mirror the increase in patients from the North East with a lag in the South East curves.
Since these figures were published, I’m told that Covid admissions in North East and South East London have continued to increase, particularly in the last 48 hrs, to the point where several hospitals are now implementing plans to stop elective work and redeploy staff to Covid wards. Arrangements for ‘mutual aid’ between hospitals are also being discussed.
This all sounds alarming and reminiscent of Michael Gove’s apocalyptic warnings in the Sunday Times recently. Does it mean the NHS will collapse and dead bodies will pile up in the streets if the entire population does not immediately hide under the bed until next Christmas and Britain turns the clock back to the 14th century?
No, it does not. There is no doubt that pressure on London Hospitals has increased in the last week and that a substantial proportion of that pressure is due to increased Covid admissions from the community. I suspect the next two or three weeks are going to be pretty intense for the NHS in London. Elective work will probably have to stop and patients may need to be moved around the capital to areas of less intense activity. Some staff will need to work outside their comfort zones, which is always stressful. Specialist staff will be spread more thinly than usual and have to shoulder more responsibility than normal. Hospitals will need to pool resources, help each other out and everyone is going to have an uncomfortable time – but the system will not collapse.
The big difference between this year and previous winter ‘crises’ is that Hospital staff are now being repeatedly tested for Covid, regardless of whether they’re symptomatic. I understand that approximately 5% of asymptomatic staff are picked up as positive and then sent home from work. Added to the absence of staff who do have symptoms, or who have been told to self-isolate because some other close contact has tested positive, and this creates a major workforce problem. If we routinely tested staff for influenza or any other common seasonal respiratory disease, we would probably end up with the same problem every year. Under normal circumstances of course we do not test asymptomatic staff for coughs and colds – leaving it up to their own judgement to decide whether they are well enough to come to work. The staff testing programme has been implemented for a perfectly sound reason – to reduce the incidence of in-hospital infections. However, in addressing one risk, the NHS has created another, arguably just as serious. I will return to this point later.
The second big difference between 2020 and previous years is the segregation of patients into colour coded cohorts within the hospital and the overall reduction in available beds due to increased spacing for social distancing – in some hospitals this has reduced bed numbers by up to 9%.
Green Beds are routine patients who have self-isolated prior to admission and have negative tests. Amber are patients awaiting swab results and Red are patients with positive Covid tests. On the face of it, this system sounds quite sensible. In practice, it creates immense organisational friction. For example, a hospital may have plenty of Green beds, but have Amber patients queuing up in A&E, who cannot be placed in any of them. Patients may move from Amber to Red if they become Covid positive, but when they are fit to be discharged, they may occupy an acute Covid bed for days as there is no ‘home’ to send them to. Care homes are particularly reluctant to accept discharged patients after Covid care because of their experience in the spring. Discharge delays happen every year with influenza too, but the problem is worse this winter. As a result, the same burden of clinical care becomes proportionately harder to manage.
So, what has caused the increase in Covid patient numbers? The straight answer is I don’t know. It could be as simple as a change in the weather. Covid is a temperature dependent virus – it dropped off rapidly in late spring. During the summer there were localised outbreaks in isolated cold places, such as meat packing plants (and the first cases have just been detected in Antarctica) so it is not surprising that as the temperature falls we are likely to see more outbreaks and more transmission as people congregate inside and spend less time outdoors.
The burning question in the light of the revelations about the ‘new variant’ VUI-202012/01 is what role, if any, does this play in the observed tightening situation? Hard to say. It’s certainly possible that a new variant could spread with greater speed. In itself that doesn’t matter very much as long as the disease it causes is at least no worse than the old type – in general evolutionary biology one would expect a faster spreading variant to cause a milder illness. If the new variant is spreading significantly faster, the medical problem would not be a greater severity of disease but a more concentrated spike of hospitalisations.
The NERVTAG meeting notes of December 18th which seem to have sparked off the latest panic are relatively cautious about the transmissibility of the new variant, but do record:”It was noted that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during a period when national lockdown measures were in place.”
This brings me to my key point: the illusion of control. In the spring, the rationale for lockdown was to “flatten the sombrero” – a temporary measure to delay viral transmission and prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed by a sudden surge in cases. Since the autumn, that message has mutated to a new variant – the Government and its associated advisers have become obsessed with the need to “control the virus” – yet the evidence shows that they have about as much chance of controlling the weather. Far too many “experts” have invested their entire professional credibility on the premise that more stringent lockdowns are the only way to “beat the virus” and to achieve “zero Covid”. Yet both of these goals are manifestly unattainable.
The Covid admissions curves in London have steepened despite increasing societal restrictions. If it is true that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during this time, why are we doubling down on a failed strategy?
Stop Press: Dr Mike Yeadon is, not surprisingly, sceptical about the “mutant” strain being responsible for the NHS’s capacity problems.
It is my personal opinion that the only way to rescue UK quickly and in one step is to turn off the un-inspected, un-audited, non-accredited, private Lighthouse Labs, now conducting 90% of UK PCR tests. They are producing deficient product: untrustworthy results from PCR mass testing.
I learned earlier today from an impeccable source within the NHS that:
“Management has become totally frustrated by the unmanageable impact of staff falsely told to self isolate following Pillar 2 testing via Lighthouse Labs. Fully 10% of NHS staff are missing. They’re not ill. But having had a positive PCR test they’ve been told to “self isolate” (another made up phrase from the school of misinformation). As from eight days ago, they’ve cut over to self screening using lateral flow tests for viral proteins. Staff have been sent 200 each. If they’re positive they come into to an NHS facility, get swabbed for confirmatory tests by in-house PCR, run in NHS path Labs. Management expects self isolation absence to halve in January”.
If confirmed, that kills confidence of the public in relation to Lighthouse Labs screening stone dead.
Watch the ‘self-isolation’ absence statistics closely over the next four to six weeks.
Stop Press 2: The NHS whistleblower who leaked the slides from an internal Power Point Presentation given to senior managers has provided a snippet of info that corroborates our doctor’s analysis.
Hospital transmission is a major problem and asymptomatic testing has reduced the number of staff available to work. Perhaps we should test for other respiratory viruses? Bath RUH has 233 staff isolating due to Covid. A FOI request for information on the number of staff number isolating across the NHS should be available.
Hospital bed numbers have reduced by 9% to help introduce social distancing. Some new build facilities, e.g North Bristol Trust have reduced bed numbers more than Trusts, e.g. UHB&W, with older hospitals.
Nightingale hospitals are of little value. They need clinical and other support services, e.g. X-ray, blood bank, kitchen – and staff. Would have made more sense to increase capacity at existing hospital sites. For example, portacabin wards in hospital car parks.
No Qualifications or Safeguarding Required for Testing Children
A Lockdown Sceptics reader was alarmed by a letter she received from a recruiting agency this week. She explains why.
I would like to draw your attention to the following matter. I am qualified teacher (MA.Ed) with some 26 years experience in the state, independent and international sectors. I now work wth vulnerable young people who do not attend school. I received the email below from one of the agencies I am registered with. I am deeply concerned about this, both as a teacher and as a mother of teenagers. This suggests that ‘anyone’ can apply for the post of tester. Most professionals would not accept £10 – £12 an hour as pay (teachers regularly get between £25 – £30 from an agency per hour). I am also very concerned about the training, as there are other sources suggesting this will be online. There were also quotes (attached) saying DBS checks will not be required for these people who will perform intrusive, potentially dangerous tests on children (also without social distancing).
There seems to be no safeguarding and I am appalled. I imagine if people refuse to allow ‘anyone’ to test their child, the child will not be able to attend school.
The letter reads:
Apologies if you are not looking for work however I wanted to email in case you were or knew of anyone who was who would be interested in the below in order to help with the new requirements for Covid testing in schools.
As I am sure you are aware, schools and colleges are to start offering testing to all staff and students after the Christmas break. In order to facilitate this, they require assistance in administering these tests and also process some of the administrative work.
The pay for this is £10 – 12 per hour. The hours may vary depending on the school however they will not be less than four hours per day and usually will be more. Training will be arranged as per Government guidance so anyone can apply, if you have a Health and Social Care background or experience in such roles this is advantageous but not compulsory.
Is this something you would be interested in? If so, please reply to this email in the first instance to express your interest and state what experience you have, why you feel you will be good at this type of work, as well as your availability for work from 4th January to carry out these assignments.
If you know of anyone else looking for work who would be interested please ask them to email me.
Another similar letter says recruits will receive “online training” followed by an “on site walk through” on the first day before starting work.
What could go wrong?
Dr Clare Craig with Mark Dolan on talkRADIO
A Lockdown Sceptics reader kindly transcribed Dr Clare Craig’s appearance on talk RADIO on Sunday. Here it is.
Mark Dolan: What’s your view about the suggestion this new strain of COVID-19 – and we know that viruses mutate, that’s what they do, multiple times – do you think it’s possible that it’s 70% more transmissible?
Dr Clare Craig: No, I don’t think it is. I think we have to wait for more evidence. So, there are over 3,000 different strains that we’ve seen since the beginning, and people have been working really hard trying to see if any of these differences are meaningful; and what they’ve actually found now is that there’s a strain that’s been around since September, actually, and they’ve started to see an increase in positivity in the lab for this strain but what they reported recently… So they’ve got this new committee called NERVTAG who are looking into it and NERVTAG have said that the positive samples for this new strain are weak positives, are hard to sequence, and have a much lower death rate. Actually the death figures are quite small, so it’s not reliable, but you’d have expected to have seen 20 deaths and they’ve only seen four. So what that looks like to me is they’ve got a problem in the labs. That’s the kind of scenario you would see if one of the lab techs had Covid and was accidentally shedding RNA into the samples that they were testing.
Dolan: Might that explain for the isolated nature of this new outbreak and that it hasn’t manifested globally?
Dr Craig: It would explain that. It would also explain the situation you were just talking about with Grant Shapps, of weddings where there’s an apparent outbreak but nobody has any symptoms.
Dolan: It does seem a little absurd too that Matt Hancock, Health Secretary, yesterday said that we should go around pretending we’ve got the virus. We’ve reached a new level of sort of, what can you call it? Sort of surreal theatre now around this pandemic.
Dr Craig: Yes. I mean, the crazy situation seems to be that: they have one hypothesis about what’s causing all the test positivity, and it’s the most obvious hypothesis, you know, that we still have some Covid out there; but they don’t seem to have the imagination to think about every other possibility and to check it. And they had one strategy, which was lockdown. Now these people are meant to be scientists, and when you do a lockdown – and it’s the first time that we’ve ever done this – it’s essentially an experiment. So having done it, you have to take a look at the results, and I don’t think any of these scientists have been looking at the results; they just keep repeating the experiment. And we’ve seen, again and again, that these lockdowns do not have the impact that they’re meant to be having. So I think in the very first lockdown – and I would say actually that I wasn’t a lockdown sceptic for the first one; I think I probably should have been, but I was wrong, and I learned from what we found in the first lockdown: which was that the virus kept spreading; that it was weeks later, four or five weeks later, before we had the last peaks and deaths in certain pockets of the country. And it was those pockets of the country that peaked last and had the least deaths that did see a bit of an autumn outbreak of Covid, so it was like the tail end of the first wave, what you saw in the autumn.
We’ve had lockdowns in Wales, we’ve had the lockdowns in the north-west, and every time there’s a lockdown, the case rates increased, and there’s nobody seems to be able to put an answer to that, except for the fact that, when you have a lockdown, you maximise the testing, and, when there’s a testing problem, you’re going to get the maximum error rates from maximum testing.
Dolan: I must say that, you know, I’ve been a stuck record about the fact that there doesn’t seem to be any focus on the human impact of these Covid measures. The debate around the science of lockdowns is certainly a vigorous one to be had, but what we can say, and we can be definitive about this, is that businesses are closing, lives are being ruined, for a population that, by-and-large, are not under any kind of mortal threat from COVID-19; the death rate from this awful virus is mercifully low. However, something of a slam-dunk argument is surely the notion of overflowing hospitals. What is the answer to that, because it does seem like an ace card to be played by the Government?
Dr Craig: I would agree; however, the data does not back that up. So, while we have seen increased numbers of people labelled with Covid in the hospitals, the number of people in the hospital in total isn’t changing, and that’s what you see when you’ve got a labelling problem. You can increase and increase the number of Covid patients, but if that isn’t affecting the total number of patients, then it looks like you’re just misdiagnosing the people that would be in hospital anyway, and that does seem to be the situation we’re in.
But I will say that I think a lot of doctors have got themselves… not just doctors, actually, people who work in hospitals – some of them are coming away fearful that they’re being overwhelmed, and that kind of fear comes from a situation where the flow of the hospital breaks.
So, when you’re trying to keep people separate because they’re Covid positive, or Covid negative and vulnerable or whatever, you stop the bed management being smooth, and that means you can’t get people from A&E into a bed. So A&E can back up, and it can look like the hospital is being overwhelmed, when actually the data shows that it isn’t; it’s just a management problem, because we’re testing all of these people. And, added to it, we’re testing all the staff, and we have mass staff absences from all the testing which obviously does overwhelm the NHS. That’s a real problem.
And we have to get this testing right, because people will die if you don’t staff the hospitals properly. And if you’re sending asymptomatic people home who should be staffing the hospitals on the basis of a potentially wrong test result then, you know, we’re going to end up killing people.
And that’s just a UK problem. I think it’s really important to emphasise that, although the government predicted two hundred thousand deaths from the first lockdown alone in this country, so, absolutely, there are massive, massive implications of all of the interventions we’ve had, even the small interventions; but, on a global scale, what’s happening is horrific. The World Bank reckon there’ll be 150 million in new, extreme poverty. The World Food Programme reckon 217 million people will be starving. And that is because we’re not showing the proper leadership. Our country used to show world leadership and, now, we’re just behaving like a sheep, like all of the other countries, instead of trying to sort this problem out properly.
Poll Positioning
A reader has had a bright idea how lockdown sceptics can make their voices heard a little bit louder: by taking part in opinion polls.
Since the YouGov polls are always showing the public support measures, lockdown sceptics could complete each new poll. I have signed up to YouGov chat polls and get new polls related to Covid into my inbox each week and sometimes multiple times each week. If all of us filled them in, it could have an effect.
Lockdown Sceptics: A Cure For What Ails You
A reader was given an unusual prescription by her GP and wrote in to tell us about it.
Earlier this year I was diagnosed with Gastro-oesophageal reflux disease. My GP suggested that I stop listening to the BBC Radio 4 Today programme over breakfast and read your website instead. It worked. The symptoms have eased and what I was hitherto spending on Gaviscon, I’m now more than happy to donate to Lockdown Sceptics. Thank you.
Round-up
- “Letter to Secretary of State for Health” – Excellent letter from Richard Tice, chairman of Reform UK (formally the Brexit Party), setting out the manifold problems with PCR testing and the key questions the Government must answer
- “Lockdowns have become the default Covid policy – but do they actually work?” – No, says Kai Weiss in CapX
- “French Law Would Ban People Who Don’t Get Covid Vaccine From Using Public Transport” – They do realise that social penalties are still coercive? From Summit News
- “Matt Hancock is a busted flush and the public deserve a break from him” – David Mellor has nothing kind to say about the Health Secretary in the Mail on Sunday
- “Switzerland: Corona update December” – Switzerland, which has eschewed winter lockdowns, hasn’t had a year this bad for deaths since, er, 2003, reports the Swiss Doctor
- “Why did more people die of COVID-19 in Sweden than in other Nordic countries? It probably had little to do with policy” – Good long read from Phillipe Lemoine
- “Meghan and the BLM Jew haters” – Karen Harradine in the Conservative Woman on the dark side of the radical “anti-racist” Left for whom certain ethnic groups don’t appear to count
- “I’m a scientist, and I won’t be having the Covid jab” – Mark Pickles in Conservative Woman is unconvinced it’s worth the risk
- “I still believe Trump will – and must – win” – Is James Delingpole indulging in some wishful thinking? More from Conservative Woman
- “Red-faced Nicola Sturgeon says sorry for ‘no mask’ in pub Covid breach” – Nic Sturge-On adds her name to the growing list of lockdown hypocrites, in the Scottish Sun
- “A Pandemic of Misinformation” – Scott Atlas in the Wall Street Journal says the the media’s politicisation of Covid has been deadly
- “My Apology To Facebook” – Comedian JP grovels to the social media giant that has threatened to ban him. He is grateful that they are helping him to be less authentic and truthful with his audience
- “Let’s face it: the virus is in control, not us” – Danny Finkelstein is not a lockdown sceptic, but makes a reasonable argument in the Times as to why the Government shouldn’t be blamed for making U-turn after U-turn
- “WHO changes definition of herd immunity” – Simon Dolan tweets about a suspicious change between the pre-2020 and current WHO definitions of herd immunity. The former states that herd immunity emerges “through vaccinations or previous infections”, the latter that it is a “concept used for vaccination … achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it”
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Three today: “Long Way To The Light” by Mike Scott, “On My Own (Les Misérables)” by Lea Salonga, and “They Don’t Care About Us” by Michael Jackson.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the news that the British Board of Film Classification has declared Ming the Merciless, the archvillain in Flash Gordon, to be a “discriminatory stereotype” and slapped a warning on the 1980 film that the casting of a white actor in the role could be considered “dubious if not outright offensive”. So it’s better if “discriminatory stereotypes” are played by actors of the right background? The Telegraph has the story.
To the generation that grew up watching Flash Gordon, Max von Sydow as Ming the Merciless was one of the great screen villains.
He was also a “discriminatory stereotype”, according to the British Board of Film Classification. The censor has added the warning to its rating for Flash Gordon, saying the casting of a white actor in the role could be considered “dubious if not outright offensive”.
Ming hailed from the Planet Mongo but, the BBFC said, was clearly of East Asian origin.
The organisation will conduct research in the New Year to establish if other old films contain racial stereotypes that need to be caveated for modern audiences.
In a newly-released podcast, the BBFC explained why the stereotype warning had been added.
Matt Tindall, senior policy officer, said: “Flash’s arch-nemesis, Ming the Merciless, is coded as an East Asian character due to his hair and make-up but he’s played by the Swedish actor, Max von Sydow, which I don’t think is something that would happen if this were a modern production and is something we’re also aware that viewers may find dubious, if not outright offensive.
“The character of Ming himself comes from the Flash Gordon comic strips of the 1930s and let’s just say that attitudes towards the acceptability of discriminatory racial stereotypes have moved on considerably since then, and rightly so, of course.
“While the presentation of Ming in Flash Gordon, the 1980s film, isn’t what we would consider a category-defining issue, we’re sensitive to the potential it has to cause offence. So we’ve highlighted it [to ensure] audiences are aware it’s there, and can make an informed decision about whether to watch the film themselves or to show it to their children.”
He added: “This is something we have bear in mind often when we see older films coming in for re-classification: films that might contain discriminatory depictions or stereotypes that are not acceptable to modern audiences, including films where discrimination wasn’t the work’s intent, just a reflection of the period in which it was made.
“This is an issue that we’re currently planning to explore more through research next year, speaking to the public to check that they’re happy with the ways that we’re classifying such films and the way that we classify each use of discrimination more generally.”
Nice to hear they’re thinking of checking with the public for a change, though are likely to regret it when they hear what the public actually thinks.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p, and he’s even said he’ll donate half the money to Lockdown Sceptics, so everyone wins.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.
Stop Press: Costco has announced it has removed the medical exemption from its mask policy. A reader has forwarded us the notice.
Face covering requirements with added face shield requirement for exempt members
Effective 23.12.20, we will require all members, guests and employees to wear a face covering (that covers the nose and mouth) at all Costco warehouse locations. Entry to Costco will only be granted to those wearing a face mask or a face shield. Children under the age of 11 are exempt. Please note that the additional requirement to wear a face shield for children over the age of 11 does not affect the requirement in Scotland for children age five and over to wear a face covering
Costco has had a face covering policy in effect since 24.04.20, but members who could not wear a face mask due to a medical condition were exempt. This is no longer the case. If a member/guest has a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they must instead wear a face shield. The use of a face covering should not be seen as a substitute for social distancing. Please continue to observe rules regarding appropriate distancing while on Costco premises.
Whilst this updated policy may seem inconvenient for some, we believe that the added safety is worth any inconvenience. Our goal is to continue to provide a safe shopping environment for our members and guests, and to provide a safe work environment
for our employees.Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Louie Silveira
Vice President and Country Manager
Costco UK & Iceland
Suffice to say a “face shield” is even less effective at preventing infection or transmission than a cloth mask, though it does at least have fewer drawbacks.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here. Alas, he’s now reached the end of the road, with the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear his appeal. Dolan has no regrets. “We forced SAGE to produce its minutes, got the Government to concede it had not lawfully shut schools, and lit the fire on scrutinizing data and information,” he says. “We also believe our findings and evidence, while not considered properly by the judges, will be of use in the inevitable public inquires which will follow and will help history judge the PM, Matt Hancock and their advisers in the light that they deserve.”
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review in December and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Quotation Corner
We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles Mackay
They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…
Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury
Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.
Sir Winston Churchill
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
Richard Feynman
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.
Albert Camus
We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
Carl Sagan
Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
Marcus Aurelius
Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt the Younger
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Joseph Goebbels (attributed)
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.
H.L. Mencken
I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
Thomas Paine
Shameless Begging Bit
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And Finally…
A Lockdown Sceptics reader has created a highly amusing X-Factor parody of The Fear Factor featuring Matt “Tiny Tears” Hancock and Bojo the Clown. Watch it here.
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Ohh F.Off NN!
I
d like to be there Ls the weather like Thailand ?What
Don`t tease us.
Lovely!
Enjoy.
That looks hellish, how can you stand it!
Part One:
Robin Monotti has a substantial batch of tweets today regarding “medical procedures and treatments” in nursing homes that led to euthanasia.
As this gruesome reality comes to the fore not only does the entire Covid narrative disappear but the criminality of what happened is exposed. Keep hammering on this point people- these acts were premeditated. An entire can of worms comes open when this aspect of the Covid scandal is highlighted.
Much has been written and much more will surface.
Very important to stress this aspect of what happened in March/April- it explains the ‘spike’ seen in the 6 week period. It also shows further the vulgar cynicism of those who were bullhorning “save grandma” even as they were involved in policies that were killing grandma.
This illustrates again that there was no epidemiological event whatsoever there were policies of administrative euthanasia implemented throughout the Western World.
Midazolam is one of the drugs used in prison executions.
“CARE homes have been accused of using powerful sedatives to make coronavirus victims die more quickly.
Prescriptions for the drug midazolam rocketed during the height of the pandemic, with some claiming it has “turned end-of-life care into euthanasia.”
“Official figures show 38,352 out-of-hospital prescriptions for midazolam were issued in April – more than double the February figure. The monthly average for the past five years in England was about 15,000.”
“Whistleblowers have also claimed to have witnessed the misuse of sedatives – with staff told to give them to dementia patients to stop them wandering the corridors.”
“Retired neurologist Professor Patrick Pullicino, who publicised the wrongful administration of powerful pain relief to patients “believed to be dying”: “Midazolam depresses respiration and it hastens death. It changes end-of-life care into euthanasia.”
On the 19th March 2020 the WHO released this guidance intended for healthcare workers (HCWs), healthcare managers and IPC teams at the facility level & at national and district/provincial level:
Section 5 of WHO guidance on treatment of severe Covid19 begins like this:
“Management of severe COVID-19: oxygen therapy and monitoring – Give supplemental oxygen therapy IMMEDIATELY to patients with SARI and respiratory distress, hypoxaemia or shock and target SpO2 > 94%.”
“Management of critical COVID-19: acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) – Recognize severe hypoxemic respiratory failure..and prepare to provide advanced oxygen/ventilatory support. Endotracheal intubation should be performed by a trained and experienced provide”-Avoid disconnecting the patient from the ventilator, which results in loss of PEEP and atelectasis.
-Non-invasive ventilation (NIV) should be used only in selected patients with hypoxemic respiratory failure.” “There is no current evidence to recommend any specific anti-COVID-19 treatment for patients with confirmed COVID-19..ongoing clinical trials testing various potential antivirals; these are registered on clinical trials dot gov or on the
Chinese Clinical Trial Registry”
The WHO was pushing oxygen & ventilators already on March 6th.
Tedros was framing the narrative of life & death as ventilator-no ventilator, completely ignoring standard infection treatments.
Who was working with Tedros on the narrative that was to lead to disastrous intubations? The Gates & the Clinton’s.
And let’s not forget the role of Klaus Schwab in all of this.
(Cont.)
We need to be careful about this data as midazolam is also used as a treatment for prolonged seizures especially in children and people with learning disability who are often in care homes. Lockdown has caused enormous stress which increases seizure frequency and severity, so midazolam will be needed more often. A bad thing in itself but not quite the same as being used in the way described. We need to separate out the differentvreasons for prescribing it to get a clear picture.
What I’m hearing is that lockdown is very stressful for people in care homes (inc. children and people with learning disabilities!) so we need to sedate them.
What we actually need to do is not inc. them in the lockdown. How have we got to the point where quality of life is no longer a concern?
Midazolam is used subcut or through a T34 syringe driver to ironically control breathlessness and agitation.In combination with diamorphine a quick exit follows.I witnessed what I could only describe as involuntary euthanasia.
Part Two:
“The WHO further justified this approach by claiming that the less invasive positive air pressure machines could result in the spread of aerosols, potentially infecting healthcare workers with the virus.”
“This is more theoretical fear than a real fear,” Dr. David Hill, a pulmonary and critical care specialist who has experience treating COVID-19 patients, and who is a spokesperson for the American Lung Association, told Time Magazine.”
“Hysterical epidemiological modelers, the same ones that had just claimed millions of people were about to die from COVID-19 in the United States, took to claiming that there was a mass ventilator shortage in the United States.”
“The WHO recommendation has opened up a continuing conversation in the scientific community about the medical ethics of potentially unnecessarily harming a patient to hypothetically protect one’s colleagues from a virus (And one that is simply not that lethal”
China’s reports reference the WHO report above. It is clear that the WHO influenced China’s approach, and vice-versa, the reports from China then influenced the WHO.
CHINA & US, April 17th 2020: “Based on a Chinese expert consensus, it is recommended that invasive mechanical ventilation be the first choice for moderate or severe ARDS”
June 7 2020, Canada, US, Italy: “The initial message from the Chinese medical teams was to intubate early.This seemed to stem from the accurate observation that many of these patients deteriorated precipitously and that they may be more safely intubated at an earlier stage”
“However, this also can come at a cost. Mechanical ventilation is inherently associated with a number of well described and accepted complications such as ventilator associated pneumonia, ventilator-induced lung injury, hemodynamic disturbances..sedation and immobilization.”
June 20th: “What is new in the current study – Current experience suggests that many patients may avoid complications of mechanical ventilation and possibly avoid clinical deterioration by the use of non-invasive ventilatory support.”
Go here:
https://twitter.com/robinmonotti
Our ‘critical shortage’ of ventilators disappeared very quickly after a couple of months. I expect that the medics on the front line realised the harm they could cause compared to non invasive procedures and started ignoring WHO guidelines.
“these acts were premeditated”
So was the removal of HCQ as an over-the-counter drug in France in FEBRUARY after the Chinese reported that Chloroquine was an effective treatment. Of course, even Fauci recommended it in 2005 but removed it for C-19 until vaccines were “approved”. So now HCQ and Ivermectin have been reinstated. Not sure what the situation is in the UK at the moment.
Thanks so much Alan.
Have you seen this?
It supports these claims from a data evidence standpoint
No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response
I did see that. This is precisely what occurred.
Rancourt had one interview in particular with a German fellow where he goes over charts from various countries and various years. The evidence points not to an epidemiological event but to a social event- it was policies that killed these vulnerable people prematurely.
Here is that video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fublYhEc_Xo&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=DenisRancourt
A stunning article:
https://thecritic.co.uk/boiling-the-bioethical-frog/
It makes you realise just how far we are now straying from the ethical administration of medicine against genuine diseases. As the author points out, we are now at the level of Matt Hancock in competition with Piers Morgan over who will have an unnecessary vaccine first, live on television.
Instead of doctors deciding what treatment their patients should receive, we have two twerps in a bragging contest effectively making policy for the whole population.
The layman’s view of medical treatments is being instituted as political policy. And this is not just vaccination but also extends to lockdowns and social distancing which are de facto medical treatments that prevent the sharing of microbes, thus affecting everyone’s immune system at a government ministers’ whim.
The realisation of this makes my head spin. It’s obvious that medical treatment is not something that Matt Hancock, or even an ‘expert’ at Sage, should be able to impose on anyone. How have we reached the point where it is being accepted so easily? The appropriate medical bodies or councils should have been all over this at the start.
That cheered me up, I’ve been merrily swapping microbes with all and sundry since the start and I’ve never had a flu stab in the arm.
Hopefully they both Tiffany Dover
I hope that they both fall down and take a knee on TV.
I keep reposting this because lockdownskeptics won’t return email, perhaps someone else can get them to take note of an issue of interest to millions being pushed vaccines who aren’t being ethically informed of all the risks?
The Emergency Use Authorization for the Pfizer vaccine, and its briefing document for the review meeting, states there is an unknown risk of future vaccine enhanced disease (which includes other potential enhancement modes and not just antibody enhancement) after the initial immunity fades:
https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download
“The Sponsor identified vaccine-associated enhanced disease including vaccine-associated enhanced respiratory disease as an important potential risk [….] risk of vaccine-enhanced disease over time, potentially associated with waning immunity, remains unknown and needs to be evaluated further in ongoing clinical trials and in observational studies that could be conducted following authorization and/or licensure.”
i.e. the study simply hasn’t gone on long enough to see if people have sterilizing immunity producing the initial good results that fades, and then when people do actually get infections: the immune response they learned from the vaccine might lead to a worse case of covid-19. Hopefully not: but the trials just haven’t run long enough to demonstrate that.
Yet the FDA isn’t telling patients about this risk, nor is the media. The FDA’s fact sheet for recipients of the Pfizer vaccine for covid-19 is here and there isn’t a peep about it:
https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download
Nor is there in its doc for healthcare providers, nor is it in the UK’s NHS or Canadian equivalents.
An International Journal of Clinical Practice article on
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ijcp.13795
“Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID‐19 vaccines worsening clinical disease”
explains that the vaccine trials didn’t meet medical ethics standards regarding fully informed consent since the issue of vaccine enhanced disease wasn’t explained in a way they’d comprehend. The FDA’s information doesn’t even mention it, let alone explain it in the way people comprehend, which seems an obviously major violation of medical ethics. Its also doesn’t make sense: since enough people will likely risk it anyway, but they should get that choice because even some experts wouldn’t yet.
If they don’t correct this soon, and chalk it up to an oversight in the rush to get this out the door: it risks a backlash in a few months if the public becomes generally aware of it, akin to the backlash after the Tuskegee study where participants weren’t fully informed. They’ll wonder: “If you didn’t tell us about this risk, what else aren’t you telling us, why should we trust it?”. People can understand that trials are still ongoing: they won’t understand not informing them of risks since it looks like a coverup, even if in theory they could have hunted through the FDA’s more technical documents to find it.
Experts apparently don’t agree on the magnitude of the risk: which is why its particularly important for it to be disclosed for public debate. Media in countries hit hard by COVID-19 haven’t called attention to the issue to date. In contrast a Japanese paper quoted the director of the Japanese Society of Clinical Virology: “Concerns over ADE still remain. I am an elderly person myself, but if I were asked, I would say I don’t want to get a shot.”
Elsewhere he explained: “In the past, a dengue vaccine proved effective in tests and was widely used, but then it worsened symptoms for people who were still getting infected.”. A leading professor of Immunology testified to Japan’s House of Representatives: “There’s no doubt that their effectiveness is quite high, but their safety is not guaranteed at all”.
Its also the case that many studies *do* see concerns over potential vaccine enhanced disease in this case. Severe covid isn’t due to a lack of immune response: but a dysfunctional immune response. One study termed it an “uncoordinated” response. Will the response that occurs after the vaccine fades be a functional one, or an “uncoordinated” one? That paper suggests there is a risk that vaccines that only target the spike may be at risk of vaccine enhanced disease. Regardless, since they don’t understand fully the broken response with severe covid-19, its unclear how they can yet be certain what the odds are the vaccine will be more or less likely to trigger a broken immune response that leads to severe illness. Hopefully not: the tests just haven’t gone on long enough to demonstrate it.
The links to the various studies I mentioned are on BuildVaccineTrust.com where I put together information out of frustration that I didn’t see it being addressed. Its focused on government and academic journa
…the tests just haven’t gone on long enough to demonstrate it.
As I see it, it will never be possible to definitively demonstrate anything with the immune system – it’s all just probability. All we plebs can do is to get a feel for whether the ‘experts’ involved are sincere people engaged in a genuine effort to benefit mankind. To my untutored eye, the answer is: “You’ve got to be kidding!”
I’ve read your site too. Very informative, thank you.
Thankyou. BTW I think it perfectly reasonable that the LS crew do not open up email correspondence with all who email them, simply as a matter of policy. It would be hugely time and resource consuming. They do a great job as it is.
Thank you for your informative website. Important links included in it. I will be referring back to this.
It’s interesting stuff, but politically there is not much appetite for anti-vaxx stuff in the UK at the moment I’m afraid. If I were a PR advisor to an actual anti-lockdown campaign/party, I’d have to advise them to steer well clear of even entering into this debate. Not because it’s not worth having, but because the media are using it to smear us as simple tin-foil hat wearing, conspiracy theorists.
There was no appetite for anti-lockdown stuff at the beginning. Toby and Hitchens were among the first journalists to grasp the nettle. I tell people straight out that I won’t have the vaccine. Actually, ordinary people turn out to be aware of the issues but, if not, they can think what they like.
As a woman of child bearing age (and as someone who probably had “it” in Jan) I probably won’t have it either, and I fully support all the info being available for everyone to make an informed (and non-coerced) choice.
The problem of course is that this isn’t “anti-vaxx”, the risk issue comes directly from FDA documents. Unfortunately the issue is it seems almost everyone is afraid of being lumped in with scientifically illiterate ant-vaxxers if they express any critique. The author is someone that thinks vaccines are very important and has taken all the prior recommended ones and wouldn’t hesitate to do so again. Its actually because I don’t wish to see a backlash against all vaccines that I think its important to note risks that the FDA, Pfizer, and Moderna all acknowledge.
Yes, lets continue to abuse and deride the parents of dead and severely disabled children…. that’s the moral highground, surely?
I have said it before, and I will say it repeatedly….. to want to “distance yourself” from anything “anti-vaxx” is it’s own breed of virtual signalling, and it’s disgusting. The silencing of people who have had their lives destroyed by adverse reactions to vaccines is disgusting.
I’ve read 30 vaccine studies to date….. your blind trust has been betrayed.
Lockdown has always been a Public Relations operation.
As a Classicist johnson will be aware of the practice whereby Roman Generals routinely exaggerated the power of their barbarian enemies so that their subsequent Triumph through Rome would be enthusiastically cheered by crowds of admirers.
What a tosser.
That’s what he thinks. Unfortunately for him he’s like Honorious who was inflicted a crushing defeat by the Visigoths in 410AD which resulted in the sack of Rome.
And he will end up like those who have been assassinated by the Praetorian Guard.
Johnson Hancock Witty Vallance’s positions are now untenable
He got a 2:1. A good result but not a 1st. He’s full of shit.
https://thecritic.co.uk/boiling-the-bioethical-frog/
Well worth reading
Barney McGrew has already posted the link; see below
The Sturgeonator has been known to describe herself as ‘Scotland’s chief mammy’, in which case ,I’m a committed orphan!
And the Scots are her grinning picaninnies. That fits all right.
More’s the pity Annie. However, I’ve persuaded a friend to have a sneaky coffee chez moi today!
Every little helps.
It does. It does.
Charming.
And how is life in the Principality under prince Mark these days Annie?
Much bleating from the residents?
Round our way the mood tends to dumb resignation, except among the ultrazombies, who are not in the majority but blight everything they touch. Others are waiting for the magic vaccine, much as people in a concentration camp, worn down by endless meaningless suffering, might await the coming of freedom with the Allied armies. Only to find that the Russians get there first.
Face knickers are universal inside. Much less so outside – not where I go, anyway. I go to places where dog owners congregate. Few zombies among them, praise be.
Only the sheeple.
Thank the Lord Mr Bart and I are no longer in Scotland to listen to her nonsense.
Interesting that Merkel is commonly (and affectionately, it seems) known as ‘Mutti’ (Mummy).
Merkel is a globalist commie through and her communist past in East Germany has been pretty thoroughly wiped from the internet..
My version is Nutti
The Sturgeonator, like her communist counterpart in Germany, Merkel, has been in a position of too much power in Scotland for too long. The damage done by the SNP must be irreparable.
If only we had a convincing opposition with the moral courage to see her off.
Having trouble fitting my dropped jaw back into place after reading Simon Dolan’s tweet about the WHO’s redefinition of ‘herd immunity’.
I shouldn’t have been surprised, really.But the stink of corruption… phew!
Breathtaking manipulation. Not even the truth. I read it in disbelief too.
Same way they earlier redefined ‘Pandemic’ which required Governments worldwide to adopt counter measures . . .
Like ordering vaccines from big pharma.
Indeed. Nicely re-branded to be vaccine only. Shocking!
No doubt this ‘redefinition’ is the result of pressure from Pharma companies. The same as what happened in 2009 when the WHO changed the definition of the word ‘pandemic’ after pressure from Pharma companies
It’s blatantly obvious that these fascistic interventions are designed to secure profits for Pharma. Can’t help thinking about the explosion at the hydroxycholoquine factory. Very convenient
Of course, all of this is because of ‘incompetence’
My summing up of 2020:
The year healthy people were locked up to prevent them spreading a disease they didn’t have.
In a nutshell, yes.
..and didn’t face significant harm from.
First prize for absurdity.
It’s well past being absurd.
Can you imagine if this time last year you told people that healthy people with no symptoms would be branded as selfish disease carriers for engaging in perfectly normal activities even though they have no disease to carry.
This is good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgNfn5kXkLQ
“Britain doesn’t feel very free at the moment. And that’s bad news for Britain, certainly, but also for the world. Because – uniquely – British identity and our long heritage is rooted in the ideal of individual liberty. But what does this mean in the age of Covid?
In the first of a new documentary series from the New Culture Forum, author and journalist Marc Sidwell takes on this very question.
Featuring interviews with the likes of Sir Graham Brady, Baroness Claire Fox, Dan Hannan and Harry Miller, this documentary explores the history of British liberty, and what we can learn from it during these trying times. “
Thank you, that was well worth watching.
No wonder bozo is kicking Dan Hannan up to the House of Lords where he will have a voice but will not be able to challenge the dictator directly.
Good material but the intrusive and offputting background music – i.e. it’s too loud – spoils it.
This is a great post. It was West’s comments that prompted me to write the short comment I did yesterday: These people are psychopaths.
Ignore them. Live your life. Walk away from the TV. Hug your family, shake hands with strangers. Sing your heart out. These are the little things which make us human and these delusional madmen will not dictate our present or future.
From the main article.
‘. . . as concerns grow about the virus mutation spreading from the South East’
Duh . . .
As far as I can see the Mutant Ninja Virus has, because of gravity fallen from Scotland.
This reminds me of that Simpsons sketch about the SIKA virus
Glasgow seems to be in a bad way. I say seems because this is bullshit…
What’s happened to the flue ?
This a few weeks old but worth 9 minutes of your time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgL9DQ63LhU&feature=emb_logo
The flue is up the chimney.
The flu is up the spout.
“A fly and a flea in a flue,/were imprisoned, so what could they do?/Said the fly, “Let us flee!”/Said the flea, “Let us fly!”/So they flew through a flaw in the flue.”
I’ll get me coat.
The disappearance of flu is all part of the psy op to make covid appear worse than a bad seasonal flu which is why the press now resort to reporting ‘deaths where Covid is mentioned on the Death Certificate’ as though these are confirmed deaths from Covid.
No -it’s to prove social distancing and muzzles work
flu is about half as transmissible as SARS-CoV2. Restrictions on transmission of the latter will have a greater effect on the former.
I read the following in Wikipedia. OK, not necessarily the fount of all wisdom!
Herd immunity applies only to contagious disease, meaning that it is transmitted from one individual to another. Tetanus for example, is infectious but not contagious, so herd immunity does not apply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
Now, is Covid contagious or infectious? Makes a difference, don’t it? Medical experts please clarify.
So covid would be both infectious and contagious – but this is an interesting point that you raise. Im no medical expert, but surely this concept (infectious vs contagious) contradicts the new WHO definition of ‘herd immunity’. Take for example Tetanus – this is an infectious disease (caught from the bacteria Clostridium tetani), but not contagious (not transmissible via person to person contact). The Oxford Vaccine Group clearly states the obvious that that “there is no herd immunity for tetanus” https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/tetanus
So the new WHO definition for herd immunity which states “with herd immunity, the vast majority of a population are vaccinated” doesn’t fit diseases such as tetanus, where the term herd immunity couldn’t be used even if the majority were vaccinated. The new WHO definition seems to fly in the face of previously accepted concepts – as usual they seem to be throwing out decades of prior knowledge to fit current narratives.
Im just thinking through my own post – the new WHO definition does refer to herd immunity in the context of viruses – which could be a counter argument to mine above. However the concept of herd immunity has been scientifically accepted for many Bacterial vaccines (such as the Pertussis vaccine and Meningococcal vaccines) as well as for Toxoid vaccines (such as Diphtheria). So surely the WHO need to expand their new definition of herd immunity to diseases caused by bacteria and toxins too – but then in doing that they would be tripped up by diseases such as Tetanus.
This has got me thinking. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
There’s a lot of news globally today on this aspect of WHO approval of the “zero covid” approach.
This could well be to soften people up for even more restrictive mayhem next year.
This isn’t supposed to end , we are the early stages of a complete restructuring of society. It has to be countered.
Yes, it has to be countered, but the idea that this is all planned is
BULLSHIT
The idea that it isn’t planned is utter bollocks. It’s all a scam and scams this big need many years of planning. They’ve been telling us for years just what they are up to, but it seems you weren’t listening.
Then why was everything they’re doing predicted with great accuracy six months ago? Why are they seemingly following a predicted script?
https://computingforever.com/2020/05/14/the-people-we-were/
The People We Were (May 2020)
https://computingforever.com/2020/05/07/the-people-we-are-becoming/
The People We Are Becoming
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aqMoxkHm3mQ
CovidPass is Coming Soon (August)
More at http://computingforever.com
You are of course entitled to hold that view .
But,The vast bulk of evidence does point to the opposite and in fact what is being undertaken here is the well orchestrated and choreographed restructuring of the lives of the people of the World.
To read the musings of the creators of the forerunner incarnations of the UN ,who themselves were heavily indoctrinated by the 19C Marxist and Utopian ideologies, leaves no doubt as to the explicit intent to creat a one World system of control and government.
This is just the visible part .
The building blocks have been meticulously assembled over the decades and now the technology has reached the point where al these agendas are totally possible, they are also totally desirable by all the principal actors.
I don’t expect to change your opinion and I’m not listing documents, if you have faith in the low grade individuals like the politicians and public faces to all this thats fine. However the probable cause is there, the smoking gun is there, at the moment the victim is staggering but saveable . If you need to wait to see the body to be convinced it will be too late.
Civil Diobedience.
It must surely come to that , the present skirmishing isn’t going to achieve anything.
Only when/if a really significant mass of people are so far down they have nothing to lose will a turning point be reached.
The police/military will not supported the people unless they begin to suffer personally and the govts will go to great lengths to prevent that.
We have to hope people will turn before the “quarantine camps” are established.
I read with great interest the Matt Ridley article in the Telegraph: “Lockdowns may actually prevent a natural weakening of this disease”.
It seems blindlingly obvious that Lockdowns will be detrimental for the weakening of the virus, and go against millions of years of evolution, and thousands of years of science. To call lockdowns ‘medieval’ would be positively flattering.
Why would the human body get ill when we get a virus and not just let it do its job of killing us if it’s going to. Surely because ill people can’t participate in society and keep themselves at home away from others, meaning that those uninfected people who are out with others are more likely to meet those who have a less toxic strain of the virus. Now it would seem apparent that evolution would favour humans (and other animals) who get sicker with a more toxic virus as they are less likely to have the worst forms of the virus circulating, and so will only spread weaker strains (those with the stronger ones are out of circulation), and those communities are more likely to survive.
100,000 years or so on, in a supposedly scientific society: we remove those with a weaker form of virus from society as well, so that we can now spread the more toxic viruses just as easily as the weaker ones.
Could anyone imagine a more ridiculous idea !
I would argue that this is one of the key reasons lockdowns have been used in 2020. To prolong the “pandemic” (which it wasn’t) long enough to justify a vaccine. Job done.
It isn’t just Covid, it’s all diseases, even the usually mild ones. The morons who have been under the bed since March are quite simply doomed if they come out.
And damned if they don’t.
Ahhh happy days, you know when you were racked with flu, you wrapped up, took some lem-sip and… went to work. You sat there with your box of tissues sneezing all over everyone and …. life went on. The pretty girl sitting next to you caught it, cursed you for a couple of days. Mind you she was still going down the gym.
John Lee was saying this in The Speccie back in early May (written late April).
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/covids-metamorphosis-has-lockdown-made-the-virus-more-deadly
I have a deep and worrying visceral hatred for imbeciles on Twitter posting gifs of models in fashion masks, accompanied by ‘Masks are here to stay!’ as if they are relishing this toilet-spiraling phenomenon. What is wrong with these cretins? Do they know absolutely fuck-all about child development, non-verbal communication, and a whole host of other detrimental effects of permanent masking? When I see tiny children in masks, I have disturbing urges to shake the parent until their teeth rattle and end up muttering angrily to myself whenever I have to go to the shops. I am increasingly unfit for interaction with the general public.
The sad thing is, they are correct. Masks are here to stay. For decades. Because of millions of cretins like this.
“fashion masks” that’s what they’ve become, fashion accessories. I get so disgusted with the ubiquitous face rags I don’t even WANT to go out in public for fear of eventually slipping off the rails and ripping people’s face rags off and beating them senseless for suffocating their children. I think people sense my agitation as I’ve not been approached about my own missing face rag…
I’m so grateful for fellow travelers here – I often feel as if I have gone completely stark-raving mad in the day-to-day world until I remember that there are sane people on LS.
I have completely withdrawn from all public life. It’s the only way I’ve been able to stay sane. I cannot be around people wearing masks for more than a few seconds.
Same. It’s so disturbing to be out. And what’s with the black dunce muzzles…
The black dunce muzzles look sinister especially on men. And especially if they’re wearing casual clothing. Sorry if this makes me sound horribly judgemental but the combination of black mask and casual clothing makes them look like a possible mugger or criminal.
Or child rapist
That too. Came across of Twitter some time ago some people wondering why schools don’t challenge those who are masked and dressed suspiciously if they’re indeed the parent of the kid being picked up.
Many schools have insisted the parents wear muzzles when picking up their kids – and the stupid parents comply!
Odd that none of the parents have addressed any security concerns. Or what about the teachers?
Common sense has really gone out of the window with this virus!
That’s the idea. Make everyone afraid of everyone else.
Yep. I now avoid men muzzled up especially those with those black masks like the plague.
Me too. It’s akin to going out into a zombie movie street scene. The world I know has been taken over. I conduct the business I have to do and retreat from the shuffling enmasked crowd. Supplies now almost all online. Just like they want.
I’ve shopping been 100% online since 24th July. I know this is a dereliction of my duty to get out there and show my face. But I would be unable to contain my rage at the fallen, which would inevitably lead to potentially dangerous confrontations. I don’t need that shit every time I have to buy a pint of milk or a loaf of bread.
Each to his own Richard, I still shop in the same way as I did pre Covid though more heavily weighted in favour of the local independent convenience store.
I don’t even think about the fact that I’m not wearing face panties but do try to make eye contact and exchange a smile with the few other open faces.
That’s my strategem too. Demonstrate what’s normal.
Government doesn’t want all shopping to come from giant online companies that don’t pay tax.
Does it?
Well no, but they are far too cowardly and cretinous to actually join the dots we have managed to do in about ten seconds.
Too busy dreaming up their next jolly wheeze.
“Supplies now almost all online. Just like they want.”
Because it is indeed – what they want – I continue to go shopping two or three times a week. In particular, I prefer to select my own vegetables. Maskless, of course, but if challenged, I say I carry a rabbits foot because it is safer.
It is the rhetoric that comes with the mask wearing that gets me as well. The mantra we should be so ‘grateful’ for being able to go out to exercise, virtually zoom Christmas day masses, family get togethers etc. That’s comforting for the darling oldies who don’t have the internet. Then the government is doing the ‘best’ it can, stay safe, we are all in this together it goes on and on and on.
It is so sad that my family and people who know me do not “get” that seeing all these half faces causes me anxiety.
They say: just get on with it…
Sanity is here,
Stark raving madness is with the sheeples.
And what about the Christmas face rags a lot of them are sporting! Or dimante ones , or matching face tag and headband ones!! Shoot me now .
Good grief! Where do you live??
I’ve seen Xmas ones and those that have sequins and diamante – they do exist.
Companies that make them must be laughing all the way to the bank.
And many are jumping on the bandwagon by producing their own masks. The museums and art galleries among others. No wonder the National Gallery jumped the gun by mandating them long before the government did – they had muzzles to sell.
Even our local zoo is selling them. Look like a gibbon.
At least it will make you look a bit more intelligent than you really are.
Now I’ve seen everything.
Bloody Dan Snow is also featuring them on his website. I never took him seriously as a historian then and certainly not now.
Here’s a blast from the past:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jjs9laqltLc/SX-8cbKEalI/AAAAAAAACVE/qLgfIld8_X4/s400/alfred_e_neuman.jpg
nepotism is everywhere in the ‘meega’
On the market just now, my friend and I were waiting to be served, there was an elderly couple in front of us, masked and away with the fairies. The vendor had to ask them 3 times “it’s your turn, what can I get you!”
I mentioned to my friend it is the lack of oxygen reaching their brain, I have witnessed it a few times now.
Wasn’t there a German doctor who recently said that the muzzles can contribute to the onset of dementia because of oxygen deprivation from continuously wearing them?
Yes. I cannot remember her name.
Gibbons are much more intelligent than virtue-signalling muzzle-wearers!
Not with Rubens they won’t.Too voluminous to fit on a mask.
Salvador Dali would be a good one. Total surreal absurdity.
No Rubens but I’ve seen Titian, Van Gogh…..
Never worn a mask and am out running errands most days. Like you, I have never been challenged and find that most mask wearers won’t look you in the eye. My guess is that some of these cowed people actually find their own compliance humiliating, which of course it absolutely is.
Also great sport to be had by suddenly breaking out into a hearty cough and watching the sheep scarper in fear.
No, the cretinous public are unfit to interact with human beings.
I am increasingly unfit for interaction with the general public.
An expression of an unconscious thought which I feel I’ve had for some time, but which is emerging plain before my eyes now.
The sight of children in masks makes me feel violent.
Me too. Never felt such anger as the first time I saw a masked kid.
Agree. And Facebook is even worse with people virtue signalling by posting selfies of themselves in masks and even with visors. Some even go further by even showing off masks they made themselves.
And children in masks are the worst. Parents are not aware that by putting them on their children they are aiding and abetting child abuse. Of course they will say that their kids are fine, it won’t harm them and its protecting them but I don’t think they’re aware that any psychological damage is hidden and by the time it emerges it will be too late to reverse the damage.
They will reap what they have sown.
I watched a very good discussion on Bittel TV on Monday re children and mask wearing. There was a study done in South Tirol, where they measured illegal amounts of Co2 between the mask and the face.
Also a lot of children are very stressed and have dangerous amounts of adrenalin for hours on end circulating in their body. Even if they feel fine, their body is reacting with stress.
I’ll mention that to my sister if any chat comes to this as where they live unfortunately everyone has to wear masks and visors. No exemptions.
Half the time I’m tempted to carry a machete or AK-47 with me at this point.
I happened to be in the city last week before all hell broke loose on the northern beaches. There was a masked woman with 2 masked children in the public toilet. She told them to come wash their hands and they said, ‘we don’t want to.’ She said, ‘ok’, and off the three of them toddled. (Yuk). I am sure if they come down with gastro, hepatitis whatever she will be saying it was that unmasked woman washing her hands next to me that caused all this.
I am not able to interact with “society” it’s too dangerous.
My neighbour put his mask on to receive a delivery on the door.
A lot of them are paid, Emily.
Don’t underestimate the number of government agents distorting/controlling social media.
Children are even asking to wear masks so they ‘look grown up’. I am now beyond disbelief.
Monkey see monkey do.
Like pretending to smoke!
Emily, I am sooo with you, seeing children wear ‘pretty’ makes makes me want to punch the parents. My kids even know to do ‘fake’ hand gel applications when we go out (ie wave your hands very near the dispenser and rub your hands like you’ve got gel on them but never ever get gel on your hands). Stay strong. I’m with you as are thousands more. Download the song Boris is an ‘effing see you next Tuesday to try to get it to number one in the downloads chart!! (it costs 99p but is the best 99p I’ve spent recently..
I suspect much of such blather about cute masks starts with the 77th traitors.
Love ‘The Fear Factor’ spoof.
Advert breaks should consist solely of
‘I’m A Celebrity
Vaccinate Me !’
“Lockdown 3”. No, sorry, we’re still in Lockdown 1, have been since March. Lockdown continues in mutations/variants until every trace of the restrictions and associated nonsense such as mass testing are gone.
Which, if the demons get their way, will be forever.
It’s time the Sheeple were told the new Mutant Ninja Turtle Virus requires an anal swab to detect it, rather than the nasal, throat one for Covid-19.
Let’s see how keen the nation is now to continue this farce.
#pantsdown
You just know they’d be queuing around the block outside waitrose and Apple stores. New PR campaign would be along the lines of
“Act like you have it,
Nobody knows,
Bend over to save grandma,
And touch your toes.
I can’t even touch my knees!
If you wanna get your freedom pass,
You gotta shove it up your….
sorry, I’ll stop rhyming now! Too early in the day.
You jolly soon would if somebody swabbed your … never mind.
Oooooo, Matron!
I would love to be paid £12 an hour to shove … Wankok … I think I rave in a sort of exquisite delirium.
Shove Wankok up their asses.
Not sure how much more I can take, my sleepless nights and anxiety are back. I’m supposed to be having a break in the run up to Christmas but working is taking my mind off things. Being awake to this deception while so many around you are being deceived and misled is so hard. I’ve questioned my sanity so much, even asking if I’m on the ‘spectrum’, whatever that means. Even talking with like minded friends doesn’t help that much as we’re still such a minority. I really didn’t think this website would still exist or be necessary in December but here we are.
I’m with you. The hardest thing for me is that very same thing. Living through tough times and government oppression is one thing. But having to persuade people that we are being oppressed seems like a greater insult.
I always think it is akin to living through another night of the blitz, bombed house and everywhere, and then in the morning you see a neighbour with an untouched house and remark “wasn’t it terrible last night?” Expecting some connection, the neighbour looks genuinely puzzled and says “what was terrible?”
Moomin dear, get this: YOU ARE THE SANE ONE. Sanity, as Orwell pointed out, is not statistical. Even if there are a million Covilunatics all round you, you are still the sane one. But not the only sane one. There’s us. And the brave souls who speak out in the media. JP and Andrew Lawrence, on You tube, are mighty forces for good – with laughter.
Don’t worry too much about sleepless nights. When your body really needs sleep, it will take it. You may already be sleeping longer than you think you are – it’s a common experience. Sleep takes up no conscious time, wakefulness does. Try my trusted remedy: go to sleep with an audiobook playing, and if you wake in the night, put the audiobook back on. It will distract your thoughts.
In the morning, brew a cup of nice hot tea, or whatever you prefer, and take it back to bed with you. Charity never faileth, and neither, in my experience, doth tea.
You do make some lovely posts Annie.
It’s all fuelled by Glengettie,
Many of my best thoughts are fuelled by the Glens of Scotland, particularly Speyside.
Had to look that up. You are obviously a deeply civilised person.
I will take no other.
Thanks!
The original title of 1984 was “The Last Man in Europe”, the idea being that as long as there was one person alive who was not taken in by the lies, there was still hope.
He didn’t have a group of sceptics to keep him reminded!
Right but we can’t just post on here. What can we realistically do?
I support going to bed with an audiobook
or sth.
I used to listen to R4 and the world service.
I often woke up at 4am or so, listened to 30minutes of a programme on the world service, highly interesting, sadly to have forgotten all the details when I woke up in the morning.
I also used to be able to recite the shipping areas.
… and the gentle melidy of ‘Sailing by…’
I go to sleep listening to Mark Windows Windows on the World. Or Delinpole.
nice one Annie
I like to doze listening to a monologue by someone with interesting things to say in a pleasant voice, Sam Harris being a favourite.
If I know the file has a loud musical or advertising conclusion I listen via a video editing suite with ending cut out.
For me, it’s Simon Callow, reading any audio book.
Try the sounds of rain on youtube. Rain while driving, videos of storms, that sort of thing. There’s lots of them.
Heck, if you lived in Pembrokeshire you wouldn’t need You tube to get the sound of rain, it never bloody stops! Does anywhere do the sound of sunshine?
Morecambe-with-Wise.
Oh yes…
Hi Annie,my daughter bought me a nice fathers day present.It is a two night stay at Roch Castle in pembrokeshire.I worked in South Wales for many years and I was looking forward to it.But this bullshit put paid to that.Anyway it says on the voucher,Croeso Cynnes Cymreig.I dont thik so.
Stay strong. To be honest I’m not really having a good Christmas either as me and my colleagues are waiting to hear who of us gets the axe next month.
As Dr Vernon Coleman has said, you’re not alone and in the end we will win.
And I said to the man who stood at the gate of the year:
“Give me a light that I may tread safely into the unknown.”
And he replied:
“Go out into the darkness and put your hand into the Hand of God.
That shall be to you better than light and safer than a known way.”
Quoted also by George VI in his Dec 1939 Christmas broadcast to a fearful nation.
Indeed it was.
Thanks
You’re welcome. We sceptics need to support each other.
Bart, read Psalm 91; magnificent. King James Bible, not modern English.
Whoso dwelleth.
Cheers. Will have a look.
I know how you feel. It really irked me that the media tried to paint skeptics with their rational thinking as selfish and uncaring – even more likely to be psychopathic! No wonder we question whether we lack lack empathy!
When the truth is that we are the ones who can see the whole global picture of all the myriad of ways in which all people are suffering. The whole “save Granny” thing chills me as it could only be adopted by people who aren’t used to thinking of anyone but themselves until now.
I have had a lot of nights where I struggled to sleep too. I found it was where I was either reading something on here or seen something on YouTube that had annoyed me about this shitshow and I kept playing scenarios over and over in my head and could not sleep. So I now take myself away from everything lockdown by 9:30 and then look at motorbike videos, golf instruction videos, comedy videos. I then read a book, some sci fi or fantasy something miles away from the current situation. A Buddhist will tell you anger about something you cannot control is like walking around with a burning hot coal in your hand looking for someone to throw it at. There is only one person getting burned.
Same drill here, I watch videos and read about neutral subjects that have no danger of being tarnished by the current madness: history, sci-fi and astronomy are usually reliable. Learned an awful lot from that. I’ve also got back into model making, usually with a lecture or music on in the background. Cutting, gluing and painting forces you to relax.
Wise words. So do horse riding and piano playing.
Yes I find piano playing very helpful too as there is nothing to remind you of all this crap. I even use my late fathers music he bought in the 1930s with prices in old money and no barcodes! I find Mozart and Chopin relaxing to play in their very different ways.
Golf instruction videos would send me off before I’d even sat back down.
But agree in principle.
All these are well established interrogation tools, designed to break down prisoners’ morale and make them feel they are going mad.
It’s horrible, but if you know what is being done to you and why they are doing it, then you can resist it better.
Try drinking wodka with like-minded friends …
I see that newly elevated PM Ferguson has wasted no time in pushing his dream of a total lockdown, looking to start (by all accounts) on the stroke of midnight Boxing Day.
The only reason some of us still have Christmas Day is because of the protestations of a few politicians such as outgoing PM Boris. Sage and the new PM begrudgingly allowed xmas for a few, shaking their head and tutting at the sentimentality, but now it is all systems go come midnight and they can press on with achieving their dream of becoming the world’s first fully medicalised state.
Infantilised State.
What a state!
In the space of nine months the country has been reduced to a brutal dictatorship
On Christmas day the police can force entry into your home and confiscate your children and grandchildren. The police do not even have to tell where the children have been taken
Shame on you pig dictator
Shame? He doesn’t know the meaning of the word. Nor of any word with a moral significance.
On what grounds, please?
Anither nugget from C. S. Lewis. In Narnia, some animals are rational and have speech, but if they revert to purely animal habits, they lose that rationality and can no longer talk. Lucy speculates in Prince Caspian (quoting from memory):
“Wouldn’t it be awful if, in our world, men started going wild inside, but still looked like men, so you could never tell which was which?”
Now it’s happened, and it is awful. Unspeakably awful.
But the blank, dead eyes over the face knickers do at least give an indication.
Those books are so full of wisdom. I’ve bought the set for my daughter for Christmas. I hope she devours them as I did at her age.
Read the lot during Junior School years accompanied by Radio Luxembourg on the trannie*.
*Transistor Radio for the younglings.
As a calf I had a lovely old vacuum tube wireless that would take a few minutes to properly warm up. I would stare into its orange glow at night and sweep the dial, searching for the sounds of far away.
We used to listen to the audiobooks on cassette on long car journeys, back when the BBC still had some integrity and production values.
*Thanks for the clarification – I thought you were talking about a Ford van.
Sit down, stand up. Look at those baggy knees!
If she’s not keen, just tell her she might be slightly too young for them. That should do it.
Lucky girl to be discovering them for the first time.
At least the face knickered rarely bother others with their inane opinions; as we know, the masks act as muzzles and that is part of the plan.
My favourite books as a child. I live near CS Lewis birthplace. We have lots of Narnia statues around my way.
We have a TV film location at Manorbier Castle, where Aslan jumped over the wall for the equivalent of the Harrowing of Hell.
Boy, would I be glad to see him now.
If you believe, annie, he’ll show up.
I will await him. Like badgers, I hold on.
They’re probably frozen animals, you know ?
Narnia is a fairly transparent Christian allegory, but like all the best “children’s” books it provides great instruction for how to be a responsible human – learn the skills to keep yourself safe, know who to trust (mainly animals rather than conspiring humans), be loyal to your allies and stand up to the bad guys, and break the rules when necessary. The Hobbit, most Roald Dahls and His Dark Materials contain similar life lessons.
If we’re honest it’s much better written and more enjoyable than the actual Bible.
Warning about the article recommended today, Philippe Lemoine’s article about Lockdown and Sweden. This is a terrible article to read with almost verbal diarrhoea. This man was pro lockdown in March but has changed tack but is a mask fanatic. He has also published outrageous articles supporting the Chinese approach of C-19 and hiding the concerns about the origin.
He is clearly not informed about several aspects of the Swedish situation. He cannot understand why the spread of C-19 was so extensive in Sweden compared to the neighbours. He has no idea that the school holidays was in a particular week where many Swedes went to the Italian and Austrian Mountains for skiing, especially from Stockholm. This was not a pattern in Norway, Finland and Denmark. He has no idea of badly run, under staffed, under paid staff at the big care homes in Stockhom. The Norwegian care homes have employed many nurses from Sweden with double or triple pay since years with much higher standard, well run, smaller care homes than Sweden.
It is almost laughable the authors strict recommendation of the number of persons gatherings would have reduced the infection rate in Sweden. He is an ego maniacal in his description of his advice(incl masks).This is a rubbish article.
Unfortunately Sweden are being draconian now (since Boris cancelled Christmas) about letting non-citizens back into the country
. Even if you are a family where some are citizens and some merely residents, they will only let the citizens back in…
Insane policy.Just shows that now the politicians have started meddling in this
Just woken up to hear on radio that Tony Blair has weighed in calling for millions to be vaccinated in January. In the Independent he calls for leaders to ‘use up all the first batch of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine next month while a second round is produced’.
I didn’t realise Mr Blair had his finger in this pie as well.
He’s as corrupt as they come.
Up to his armpits!
So he knows in advance that the Oxford vaccine is going to be approved by the MHRA.
The British people are going to be pin cushions for Big Pharma. If we allow it.
Mr Blair’s share portfolio must make interesting reading.
You can have mine Mr Blair.
Is he a shareholder in AstraZeneca? Why does the media persist in giving the man air time?
I wish I knew. I might follow that lead though…..
The Great Reset. Incredibly dull. The WEF’s podcast that is. The endless droning of uninspiring bureaucrats. If it is a conspiracy, it’s one fronted by the most tedious bores. If they do take over the world, we’re in danger of slow suffocation by grey mediocrity, leeching the colour from the world. Can you imagine Prince Charles as our overlord? Yawn. I don’t think they can ever win in a country where a song by The Kunts is veering towards number one in the Christmas download charts.
Don’t worry, about a thing. Cos every little thing gonna be alright. (invoking the Christmas ghost of Marley).
A great way of putting it. Just how incredibly featureless, bland and arid this way of living is. Not living at all in fact, merely the avoidance of death. No thanks.
The Banality Of Evil
Exactly my thoughts. They’re the most drab bunch of corporate climbers, who can only see life from the confines of a convention dinner. It’s one of the reasons why all of these organisations are overrun by incompetence and corruption.
At least Santa Klaus is good for a few memes
am I remembering rightly that the X-Factor parody is yours, PP? It’s terrific; I enjoyed it yesterday and am enjoying it this morning again
Wonder if Kate (Middleton) is regretting joining the Royal Family?
She seems to be fully on board with all the covibollocks.
Does she have a choice?
A useful reference in case not already posted:
‘A Pandemic of Pandemic Hysterias’. Sanjeev Sabhlok
https://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/Misc/PandemicHysterias-draft-sabhlok.pdf
‘According to Dr. Markus Kühbacher, a specialist investigating scientific fraud such as dissertation plagiarism, Dr. Drosten’s doctor thesis, by law must be deposited on a certain date with academic authorities at his University, who then sign a legal form, Revisionsschein, verified with signature, stamp of the University and date, with thesis title and author, to be sent to the University archive. With it, three original copies of the thesis are filed. Kühbacher charges that the Goethe University is guilty of cover-up by claiming, falsely, Drosten’s Revisionsschein, was on file. The University spokesman later was forced to admit it was not filed, at least not locatable by them. Moreover, of the three mandatory file copies of his doctor thesis, highly relevant given the global importance of Drosten’s coronavirus role, two copies have “disappeared,” and the remaining single copy is water-damaged’
‘If the stakes were not so deadly for mankind it would all be material for a comedy of the absurd. The world health Czar, WHO chief Tedros is no medical doctor whose WHO is financed massively by a college dropout billionaire computer manager, Gates, who also advises the Merkel government on COVID-19 measures. The Merkel government uses the Drosten PCR test and Drosten as an “all-wise” expert to impose the most draconian economic consequences outside wartime. Her Health Minister, Jens Spahn, is a former banker who has no medical degree, only a stint as a lobbyist for Big Pharma. The head of the German CDC, called the Robert Koch Institute, Lothar Wieler, is not a virologist but an animal doctor, Tierarzt. With this crew, Germans are seeing their lives destroyed by lockdowns and social measures never before imagined outside Stalin’s Soviet Union.’
With illustration.
I don’t see an issue with the head of the German CDC being a vet and not a virologist. The issue isn’t the theory or modelling. It’s the source data. There should be engineers involved in verifying the source data first before any models or theories are used.
But of course that would show this whole thing as an ugly fact nowhere near as serious as made out to be. Theorists love to scream their Eureka, and indulge in doom porn.
Reality is however a lot less exciting in that sense, but brutal in others.
Entirely agree.
Problem is not that he’s a vet but his specialism is “Biotechnology in Reproduction”
I agree about the engineers.
Thank you for this.
I the summer, when it was made public that Drosten’s thesis cannot be found, this was huge in Germany.
He consequently produced a document, which some people say has partly been copied and pasted from other papers, backdated and verified by friends.
Nice that Claire Craig is saying what a lot of us were saying here for months: that respiratory diseases are just being relabelled and that deaths due to Covid going up is simply an artefact as overall deaths are the same.
But as ever this information is not displayed in context with previous years.
What gets me is that the great medical profession takes months and months to realise something that is often obvious to engineers and applied scientists from the start.
And we’ve seen this before: crime statistics going up or down depending on the flavour of the month, just because they get relabelled.
The great medical profession has a two-thousand-year history of ignorance, stupidity, prejudice and refusal to accept truths that were staring it in the face.
Quite. Just ask Semmelweis.
Not all doctors, Malcolm Kendrick and Sam Bailey for example, but they are GPs. Hospital physicians tend to be specialists and unable to think outside of that. An anecdote from when I worked in A&E, a patient was brought in after being stabbed in the chest. Cardiothoracic surgeons were called and operated on the patient. We get a complaint because the wound was below the diaphragm and hence was not cardiothoracic but general surgery.
Absolutely. The problem is, when did we ever label them in the first place?! Until recently, we had cold (struggle on bravely) or flu (sick enough to stay home.) One could also make an argument for man flu but that’s another story
. If it didn’t pass, you may have been diagnosed with “chest infection” or similar and received antibiotics- but again, who really knows? GP doesn’t test you do they – they treat the symptoms, although I suspect sometimes the prescription pad comes out just as a pacifier. Hospital? That was pneumonia.
All this time we didn’t give a flying f that what we actually had was influenza A
influenza B
rhinovirus
parainfluenza
adenovirus
coronavirus
human metapneumovirus
mycoplasma pneumoniae
respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)
Etc
Why are we so obsessed with categorising covid? Take RSV for example – if you caught it now, you’d probably just think you had a cold. No one is is suggesting you isolate or get tested for it. Yet if you pass it to a young child it can be serious – around 30k hospital admissions and 80 deaths per year just in the UK. Most of us would avoid babies if we had a cold, especially premature ones, but no ones suggesting you’re a Baby Killer for not suspending all activity and that of everyone you’ve been in contact with?! There were 83 more baby murderers in the UK last year – call the Police! Worlds gone f-ing mental.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Sars1 didn’t miraculously disappear as was claimed. Just went round the world and and nobody really noticed
Any excess deaths put down to all of the above
Would explain the asymptomatic Sars2 rate (along with the Coronacolds)
Yep and if you had the flu you also avoided old folk.
If you really had flu, you were in bed and avoided all but the person who brought you fluids occasionally, before leaving you to sleep yourself better.
Great update today and I think we know the answer to the headline. Lockdown 3 was in the cards all along. January and February tends to be colder than November and December anyway plus there’s the usual flu season so they will spin that out as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Virus to justify Lockdown 3 and the gullible will lap it up despite experts saying its nowhere as virulent as the old one.
Baroness Macgregor-Smith is barking up the wrong tree. Instead of calling to throw more money at the problem why doesn’t she and her lot call out for the end of lockdown and restrictions? Or go full Gandhi and call for civil disobedience and passive resistance. Am fed up with these spineless and cowardly industry leaders. And that goes for my sector as well.
Apologies if anyone was offended by my dealings with the forums biggest Troll. I am happy to put up with some of the contrary voices on here but this particular Troll is here to Troll and the only way to deal with a Troll is by Trolling him which I will be doing whenever I see him on the forum. Engagement is pointless with someone like that; constant, unremitting abuse is the only way to get rid of them.
I certainly share your frustration, but the evidence suggests that any kind of response at all will be counterproductive.
The account in question has posted 147 times over the past nine weeks with an average response of -6 for each post. It’s almost as though the account is controlled by an organisation that wants to sow disharmony amongst us…
I personally believe that stony, unrelenting silence is the only effective countermeasure. Then, if the account in question is used to spam the site in an attempt to provoke a response we can legitimately ask the site administrators to mute that account’s posts. No doubt a fresh sock puppet would then be activated, but that’s the Internet for you.
Just my opinion; I’m definitely not having a pop at you.
We could try ignoring them? No replies, no
they feed on the attention
Ignore them m8. For all the websites Ive trawled these past few months, this seems to be the least troubled with stuff like that.
Good people pushing good information, lets keep it that way.
Long live LS.
The only way to deal with a troll is to completely ignore them.
They love the abuse as it’s an excuse to fill the forum with yards of puerile rubbish.
Please desist forthwith!
What am I supposed to do now? my current stand is that only very extreme public health issues ever justify any sort of restrictions on human rights, civil liberties and freedoms and then only for a fixed temporary period as when we had huge death figures back in April/May. I put my view on twitter some agree and a few get cross with me, I write to my MP and he does not answer, I sign petitions but it all seems a little futile.
So what do I do? what do any of us do?
All the attempts at organised opposition, new political parties etc. seem to be making little progress. I look at much of the world around me and the old song words ring in my head;
I hear the voice of them that’s gone on before
And I can’t feel at home in this world anymore
Thanks to all on this site for helping me to maintain my sanity and ensuring I realise I am not alone but even so what do we do?
Civil disobedience. Passive resistance. Attend protests if you can. Be a beacon to those around you, unmasked and smiling and unafraid.
You are right, Mr Dee, don’t wear a mask – get yourself an exemption tag if you like. Steve, keep thinking of ways not to comply. Look around you, too for others not complying – there are a lot of people not complying. I told some friends yesterday that the only to stop this is to stop complying.
Steve, don’t despair! There IS something you can do….please take a look at “Back to Normal” <https: my-sgf.co.uk=””/> we are growing rapidly and taking practical grass-roots action.
We are anti-lockdown (NOT anti covid, anti-vax) group of ordinary citizens working together to stop this madness and keeping sane by linking up with fellow sceptics and getting the message out there.
We have a mushrooming network of multiple small groups across the country delivering simple, clear and powerfully worded leaflets to local people. In lockdown that means door to door delivery, otherwise they can be handed out in the street. We already have 155,000 leaflets in circulation and more are being ordered daily and in larger quantities. We aim to reach 1 million citizens.
Our message is simple – stop the lockdown/tiers/masks etc and let’s get back to normal
I have recently joined, if you can call it that, the ‘Back to Normal’ group. I am getting a delivery of 1000 postcards in January for delivery around here.
I do sympathise with Steve’s view; it seems that it doesn’t matter how many arguments we win this government will ignore them all.
Recently, for the Covid 19 Assembly, I ‘tagged’ the blog posts for the days 19/8 – 28/8 and that was a distressing experience. I do NOT regret doing it; on the contrary I was glad to do it, but it did take an emotional toll.
I then related two such incidents to Christians whom I know and NEITHER had heard of these stories. One was the story of the police in Greater Manchester breaking up a party for a terminally ill child, the other was the story of a funeral being stopped by a couple of jobsworths in Milton Keynes. And then there are the underground churches. I can only advise getting these stories in front of people, because few know about them.
Somehow we must fight on, with hope or even without it. It is not too much to say that the whole of Western civilisation is under threat.
Sorry to be bleak, but the days are evil, more evil that at any time in the past 1,000 years.
You are right. The days are evil indeed.
But the only possible response to evil, if you yourself are not evil, is to resist it. Otherwise you are damned.
That was vile, what happened at that terminally ill child’s party. Evil times indeed when weddings, funerals, church services, children’s parties etc. are getting stormed by police. If they knew about us in medieval times, they would be saying “that is positively 21st Century”!
Thanks for this. Very useful. Much appreciated.
Sorry to say this, but we just suck the shit up until they decide it is over (which may be never).
Good responses.
There are also KeepBritainFree, SaveOurRights, StandupX, and the FreedomHubNetwork.
Meeting others of like mind in person is huge. Makes a massive difference to morale, effort, and awareness.
There seems to be an increased tendency for politicians to make remarks along the lines of “By working hard, we can reduce the cases…”
What utter crap; since when have people been able to control any form of disease by “working hard”? What utter drivel!
Well said. Unfortunately the gullible and the sheep won’t take this on.
Plenty of idiots on here as well.
If you think we’re the only ones who have come to these conclusions, you’re mistaken. It’s going mainstream, e.g. Sky News Australia and Fox News, Glenn Beck, or do they not count because they have a particular political slant?
Link to unofficial English translation of ‘Cease and Desist’ papers served on Prof. Drosten, in case not already posted:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17X4GmMXn_m-vDwqEy9vMhbNqzodAEW3b/view
‘Green Mango GmbH, represented by Nils Roth v. Prof Dr. Christian Drosten
Dear Professor Drosten,
We hereby give notice that Green Mango GmbH, Bülowstrasse 56, 10783 Berlin, represented by its managing director, Mr. Nils Roth, has commissioned us to represent its interests on the basis of the enclosed power of attorney. Our client has suffered and continues to suffer significant harm as a result of the grossly disproportionate measures imposed to contain the COVID-19 pandemic without an evidence-based foundation.
You are personally responsible for this harm because, as one of the individuals who intervened significantly and decisively in the policy deliberations, you stated facts which you knew to be false and still continue to do so, and, also intentionally, you concealed, and continue to conceal significant facts. In the name of and on behalf of our client, we claim that you should rectify your erroneous contribution to policy advice in connection with the COVID-19 crisis and compensate our client for the harm he has already suffered…..’
Another link to the unofficial translation here with interesting video appended asserting the possibility of a legal action against Prof. Drosten…….
https://cormandrostenreview.com/cease-and-desist-order-fuellmich-drosten/
I saw a large billboard here in Basel recently encouraging people to take legal action (Klagen). I assume this is related to the German case. Hopefully, it will gain some traction.
By the way, Switzerland is now pretty much in national lockdown as well, despite some dogged resistance from some cantons.
Reply from Costco
Good morning
First and foremost, I would like to thank you for taking the time to submit your valuable feedback. Given the current situation with the pandemic, we have taken the decision to take every possible step to prevent the spread of Covid19 by requiring our members who are unable to wear a face covering to wear a face shield instead.
This updated policy may seem inconvenient to some, however we believe the added safety is worth any inconvenience and additionally the vast majority of our members have expressed their unconditional support for this added measure during these challenging times.
Our goal is to continue to provide a safe shopping environment for our members and guests, and to provide a safe work environment for our employees.
For members who are unable to wear a mask or face covering, Costco has delivery options available on Costco.co.uk
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Assuring you of our best attention at all times.
Kind Regards,
I will dance on their grave.
Yet again another one with a death wish.
Shan’t be sorry when they go bust.
If you live in a town large enough to have a selection of amenities, I actually have no problem with this in theory. We can have shops/pubs/cafes/gyms/schools even with masks, gel, distancing etc and those without. People go where they want. I actually see grassroots evidence of this already starting.
As long as others will let me go about life as normal, they can have their own places. It’ll actually make it easier to know who/where to avoid.
Choice good. Mandate bad.
For sure scrap all the laws and “rules” on FN and distancing. Let people choose. And let the inconvenience reflect in the price as well as the experience too!
We believe can’t argue with belief.
And also Ah belief the cornerstone of and competent risk assessment.
Fuck Costco – run by idiotic morons evidently.
They believe something so I must wear.
Try that with a hijab, try that with a kippa, try that with a cross.
Costco features in the film Idiocracy.
Confirms what I wrote yesterday, imo. Costco have in effect declared war on mask dissenters and upon anyone with a rational understanding of this virus. We should respond appropriately, because if their approach becomes widely established life will be much more unpleasant. Sadly, I no longer have a Costco account to cancel.
“For members who are unable to wear a mask or face covering, Costco has delivery options available” – that’s discrimination! There are lots of people who cannot wear masks, and shops are not allowed to exclude them!
Needs a disabled costco customer to attempt entry, recording the whole event. Then to involve the plod, as disability discrimination is a criminal offence.
All to vote with their feet
Side effects of vaccine
“NIH launches study on allergic reactions caused by Pfizer’s vaccineI’m very concerned about a small but far from vanishingly small number of severe allergic type reactions, called anaphylaxis (“without protection”).When with Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, I filed.. https://mol.im/a/9079643 …a petition to the European Medicines Agency, https://s56fbd84d0e131e9b.jimcontent.com/download/version/1606870652/module/9033912514/name/Wodarg_Yeadon_EMA_Petition_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_01DEC2020_signed_with_Exhibits_geschwärzt.pdf …We did so primarily because we were concerned that the design & length of the clinical trials was not adequate to define the effectiveness of the candidate vaccines to reduce severe illness or transmission. (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1341532616286212098)”
The WHO’s changing concept of bovine immunity is the howling of banshees in a dialectical abyss.
Wow! Do you write Shakespearian tragedies? If you don’t, start now!
“Howling of banshees in a dialectical abyss” is a phrase I just have to remember to use some time…
Blair was just in BBC R4 saying
1. Give a single dose of vaccine only to enable more people to be partly vaccinated.
The experts have already said that a single jab is pointless.
2.’Within 6 months no country in the world is going to allow visitors without a digital health Passport.
3 ‘The NHS must speedily develop a one stop database with everybody’s health and medical records readily available’.
Mr Blair has forgotten that NHS Digital, in its various forms, has been trying and failing to do this for 3 decades.
Long may it continue to fail.
Yes, however I suspect that the PCR tests have been used for compiling a DNA database of the population..
I have been told that the CIA used a vaccination programme to gather DNA in Afghanistan.
I really don’t understand what anything has to do with a man who lied to take the UK into an illegal and catastrophic war.
because he’s a crook who’s wheeled out in such situations
eh charles lynton
I heard that interview and it was depressing in the extreme. His vision of identity cards, is back on.
Contracts were signed between uk gov and private firms at tge start of Nov to develop the system. Mayhar Tousi covered it two days ago I think. The money involved seems strange or in question.
Who listens to this guy or buys his books? I don’t know a single person who has a good word to say about him. Life long Labour supporters included!
He is a mouth piece for globalist that is a reason. He has zero originality, psychopaths struggle with creativity.
People must be allowed privacy, confidentiality etc. No vaccine mandate, no “freedom” passport – that’s Orwellian double speak! No one should be able to look at my health records for any reason unless I’m seeking medical treatment. Outrageous
“Has the Evidence of Asymptomatic Spread of COVID-19 been Significantly Overstated? – Lockdown ScepticsThe answer is “Yes”. There really isn’t any evidence of true asymptomatic transmission. You can’t make people ill with a respiratory virus… https://dailysceptic.org/has-the-evidence-of-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19-been-significantly-overstated-2/ ……when you’re not ill yourself, with symptoms of a respiratory virus. (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1341525221279449088)”
For me the answer is yes. I believe what we are seeing now is state induced hysteria at its peak accompanied by PTSD.
Yes, according to Dr Michael Yeadon ‘asymptomatic infection is biologically implausible’.
A very effective scare tactic used by Governments worldwide – one of major ways to keep the fear going
And so the BS rolls on. People die in winter and the boneless wonders in the government and on SAGE continue to prove they couldn’t sell ice cream in a heatwave at the seaside.
We’d be better off with chimps in charge.
Chimps are thuggish, spiteful, and interested only in climbing up the pecking order and in indiscriminate rutting. We wouldn’t notice any difference, except insofar as chimps are better looking, almost human in fact.
Just ask Charlton Heston!
The government is following the strategy leaked in the Canadian Report closely. Lockdown followed by “economic restructuring.”
https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
Their behaviour reminds me of what happened to Russia following the collapse of communism in the nineties. The country was looted by the corporations and multinationals, lost control of its’ national assets which were expropriated by the new breed of oligarchs, who invested their stolen private wealth in the London stock exchange.
Ordinary Russians lost their healthcare, pensions and finances, were destitute and were selling their possessions on the streets for food.
This was called “Shock therapy” and necessary for a successful changeover to capitalism, by the banks who were asset stripping and making off with all Russia’s wealth.
Putin blocked this asset stripping, and protected the Russian people from further depredations which is why you never hear a good word about him in our MSM and why he is so popular with the Russians.
With the collapse of western capitalism we are now being treated to the same looting of our wealth by the supranational elite.
They would not like us to see this for what it is, so have invented a “plague” to distract us from their real activities.
In case readers do not know this, there was a financial collapse last september, which went totally unreported.
https://www.cadtm.org/Another-look-at-the-Federal-Reserve-s-panic-in-September-2019-and-solutions-to
The coming economic collapse is due to be blamed on the coronavirus, not the elites who have gambled our wealth away.
I remember reading articles from back in February, during the build up of project fear in the media, basically saying that the financial system was standing on thin ice, in the middle of a lake.
Didn’t cash machines stop working a few times around about then? The banks said it was a technical issue but was it that the banks were insolvent?
Excellent summation of the disaster that came with the fall of the USSR. I was living there at the time, and the human suffering and concomitant societal collapse have eerie parallels currently in the West. When I discuss these parallels with the uninformed, I am met with disdain.
If it is only disdain you are met with then you are probably lucky. When Galileo tried discussing with the uninformed he was met with the Roman Inquisition, when lockdown sceptics try it they are met with the TSG.
Events in the United States are being described as a Colour Revolution, which seems about right.
I’ve been reading Dmitry Orlovs blog for several years now and he’s been predicting the end of the western way of life (specifically the usa) for ages.
His description of the fall of the USSR is particularly interesting in the parallels we face as a society today. The worrying thing is the USSR sounded more prepared for collapse than we currently do. They had ready made socialised housing and transport etc that carried on throughout. With our privatised just about everything, I get the feeling we wouldn’t fare as well.
Hope he’s wrong about it all but he does make an interesting case.
If I remember the Canadian document correctly, the next stage for Q1 of 2021 is transfer to UBI, which is likely why Sunak has extended furlough for a few more months.. I guess after that UBI will be implemented???
Yes.
I think we are in a much worse position though.
Many Russians at the time were more accustomed to hardship and either peasants themselves or one generation removed from peasantry – ie accustomed to having gardens, looking after chickens etc , things which helped them get thriugh.
The letter from the NHS doctor is the most interesting. It shows that the observable consequences of COVID are the same as normal seasonal infections, except that the response of the NHS has had the effect of reducing capacity. In terms of his observations, if we were not testing, we would not know there was a pandemic.
And then we have the announcements of the public health professionals. Here I observe nothing more than excitement at new tools to explore the spread of a virus. It is all deeply interesting. How does it spread? Who does it affect? What strains do what. Fascinating stuff. But here’s the point. None of this is evidence that it is any different from normal seasonal infections.
I don’t think the middle class professionals in the public sector, in the BBC, in large corporates, have realised the scale of the damage caused by spending £1 trillion on this hysteria. Pensions and investments will be wiped out. It is the biggest act of self-harm I have even seen.
And wouldn’t it be ironic if the effect of this was there was no money left to fund the BBC!
Agreed re your last paragraph, most have absolutely no clue!
“2020 was not, by any stretch, a year in which a person or persons could be selected as being most impactful. It was an “event” year; one event visited every corner of the globe, and in one measure or another played out in the lives of almost everyone. The event was, obviously, the coronavirus pandemic, and as that word so clearly marks, it had a greater universal impact than any other event since the end of World War II.”
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-why-covid-should-be-on-the-front-of-time-magazine
If you put a person on there, who would it be? Ferguson? Or was the damage already done? Xi Jinping?
That’s an interesting point. The key for us is that the disaster of 2020 was not the virus, but the panic response.
Who would we choose to epitomise that?
Let’s not pretend for one moment that any member of the regime is genuinely frightened of the (not very) new variant. They’re just blatantly pissing all over us.
I have to admit, it looks less like simple incompetence as time goes by. Really cynical and utterly ruthless incompetence, just maybe.
They are frightened of being found out, blamed and in some cases of this thing finishing because they love the easy power
We may never know but I think the people at the top have known they are doing the wrong thing since the start – after all, they publicly announced they were going to adopt a more or less do-nothing approach. I think they just bottled it
Since then, what they have done is evil – whatever their motives I think they know they are doing the wrong thing, and that cannot be forgiven
Idaho.Two further anaphylaxis reactions in the US.Probably just a question of time before CDC will contraindicated this vaccine for someone experiencing such a reaction earlier.Or the US lawyers will get into action.
https://bonnersferryherald.com/news/2020/dec/22/healthcare-workers-experience-rare-severe-reaction/
“The Idaho Division of Public Health has received reports of two health care workers experiencing severe allergic reactions, also referred to as serious adverse events, after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.
The allergic reactions happened in northern Idaho and the Treasure Valley. Both incidents are ongoing, but one person has recovered fully, and one is hospitalized in stable condition but expected to be discharged.
In the news release, both people had a known history of severe reactions after receiving injectable medication.”
“The CDC considers a history of a severe allergic reaction such as anaphylaxis to any vaccine or to any injectable therapy as a precaution, but not a contraindication, to vaccination,” said Dr. Christine Hahn, medical director for the Division of Public Health.
According to Dr. Hahn, “In light of these events, we are concerned about the risk to people with such a history and recommend that anyone with a history of severe reaction or anaphylaxis to any vaccine or injectable therapy defer taking this vaccine until more is known.”
“We will continue to update vaccine providers and the public as soon as we know more,” Hahn added.
If they had a known history of severe reactions, why the f..k were they given the snake oil?
How many is that now? There were 2 such reactions in Alaska a few days ago, and is it 3 so far in the UK?
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/suspicions-grow-nanoparticles-pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine-trigger-rare-allergic-reactions
So 8 known and now these 2,10 so far. Probably 1 per 60 000 doses which is 16 times more than 1 in a million for other vaccines incl flu.
Our public health experts have been incredibly stupid. Everybody knows that anaphylaxis are more rare among elderly(due to the declining immune system). They should have rolled out all vaccines for care homes and over 80, having risk between 5-10 % of death by C-19. And afterwards depending upon reactions going lower in 10 years interval for risk groups.
But Big Pharma is for profit and need maximum numbers therefore now including health care workers now having 16 times higher anaphylaxis risk than ordinary vaccines for HCW. There is no way this vaccine can be mandatory with this side effect profile. There maybe more bad news coming about the vaccines as hedge fund managers have acted.
“mRNA stock getting crushed today;bntech too. I wonder if big hedge funds – which regularly pay well-connected physicians to “consult” with them about data and clinical trials – are hearing about adverse events that haven’t become public (yet). We will see.”
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1341423803776294913
“As of 19 December, the United States had seen six cases of anaphylaxis among 272,001 people who received the COVID-19 vaccine, according to a presentation by Thomas Clark of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); UK has recorded 2 “
“”may be due to a compound in the packaging of the messenger RNA (mRNA) that forms the vaccine’s main ingredient, scientists say. A similar mRNA vaccine developed by Moderna, which was authorized for emergency use in the United States on Friday, also contains the compound, polyethylene glycol (PEG).”(Yeadon has also highlighted this component as a factor)
You Gov is a waste of time. They stopped sending me survey alerts and I am unable to log in. I emailed them directly from my email account and they didn’t respond. I’m increasingly thinking its because on the occasions I was asked about Covid and ticked a reply they didn’t want to hear that I was deleted from their records. I gave them the benefit of the doubt at first and thought it was your ten-a-penny log in blip, but the failure to reply to my emails has made me now think otherwise, coupled with the sudden ceasement of survey alerts.
Unless you specify that you are on the left politically you won`t get many surveys apart from consumer. The guy who founded this company is now in charge of the vaccine roll out.
True. I know we shouldn’t underestimate the amount of people who have been terrified by the propaganda rather than politically want lockdowns, but there’s no way over 70% of the population supported Johnson’s statement on Saturday, as YouGov claim. I refuse to accept that.
The trouble with YouGov is that the questions they ask take this form:
“Do you think Mr Johnson’s announcement went far enough? Yes / No”
Couple this kind of question fraud with biased candidate selections (using the data they have collected from the sign-up questionnaires) and YouGov can arrange for any kind of outcome that its customer wants.
Would you rather be executed, or say Boris Johnson is a great PM?
Fronting vs in charge of.
If you don’t fit their algorithm you won’t get surveys when they want a particular answer
I’ve got an account
I can’t recall the extent, if any, to which they profiled me politically, but I’m fairly right wong by modern standards so probably I slipped through the net somehow
I occasionally get stuff related to covid – the questions are sometimes terribly slanted, but I usually manage to find an option that more or less reflects the sceptic POV. If a survey is a complete train wreck and there are several questions with no decent option then I abort mission
From UsforThem:
URGENT Call to Action – schools must remain open
Write to your MP today using the text below. Remember to add your address at the end.
Please edit and personalise by adding in your own children’s experiences. If you have older children, I suggest you ask them to add, in their own words, their feelings about school closures and what it meant to them to be back at school in the Autumn term.
To your own MP
AND
publiccorrespondence@cabinetoffice.gov.uk
ministers@education.gov.uk
leader@labour.org.uk
———————————————————————-
I am writing as a very concerned parent and member of campaign group UsforThem. In March, the government closed schools to the vast majority of pupils. At that point, the government did not perhaps know the damage that would be caused by this action. By the end of the Summer term 2020, schools remained closed to approximately 83% of children, and 94% of vulnerable children had not been in school.
Since then, the massive and devastating collateral damage to our young generation this action has caused has been well documented. Report after report has highlighted the catastrophic academic, social and mental health effects on children, especially the most vulnerable. The gap between the wealthy and disadvantaged has widened and may never be recoverable. It is a tragedy for a young generation robbed of their potential. All children are now, to some extent, vulnerable. They live in a state of constant uncertainty over whether their schooling will continue, are blamed for ‘killing granny’, deprived of interaction with extended family and friends, and suffer poorer physical health with restricted access to sports for an extended period.
Unicef stated: “The benefits of keeping schools open far outweigh the costs of closing them, and nationwide closures of schools should be avoided at all costs”.
Yet- here we are again, with the mood music indicating that schools will close again in January for a month or perhaps longer. Remote learning in the Summer term was an unmitigated disaster for millions of children- there can be no pretence that it is a substitute for face-to-face schooling.
I despair at the low regard in which the government and opposition parties alike appear to hold our children. The entire premise of the COVID-19 response has been to ‘protect the vulnerable’. Children are also vulnerable. Yet their right to education is now contingent on hypotheses about their role in viral transmission. I implore you to oppose school closures and protect our young people. As a parent, I will not be able to forgive or forget this wilful destruction of our children’s futures. I suspect you will find that the children themselves, when grown and faced with the ballot box will be similarly unforgiving.
How would we find out if we have do not resusitate (DNR) orders against us? We know old people have had them installed in hospitals and care homes. But what about the rest of us? How would we find out? Just ask our GP? A FOI request? I ask because of a story I heard a few hours ago… an anecodotal story about an asthmatic man in his 50’s who claims he discovered with great surprise that he had such an order.
Assume if you are White, over 50, with any condition, that the socialised NHS will happily kill you.
I’ve read a GP can sign such an order. Perhaps some of us should ask.. why would they stop with just old people? Agenda 2030’s goals are to depopulate.
Do you have to even have a medical condition? White and 50+ might be enough
Every inpatient will have a TEP (treatment escalation plan) – they’ve not been called “DNR’s” for ages… and this is agreed with the patient if they’re able. The form may just say “for full resuscitation”, or it may mention other treatments such as whether antibiotics are to be given etc. You can just ask your local hospital for access to your notes or ask your GP specifically. Also, the heart has to stop first, and there’s usually a medical reason for that which is only occasionally reversible.
If you are asthmatic.. ask if you have a TEP…
‘Variants’ of the flu mean a loss of functionality = harmless.
They are putting normal flu deaths into CV – this is obvious by the data.
There is no pandemic – death rates will be similar to years previous, below 2008 for eg.
Real unemployment must be 20-30%.
Endless magic money printing and debt = economic destruction. Interest rates must go up along with taxes.
Yet, house prices go up, markets go up, the pound goes up.
Fracking ridiculous. What universe are the ‘markets’ living in?
Some day this all unravels.
Expect a lockdown(s) for ALL OF 2021…because of….SCIENCE.
(and a voluntary-mandatory-you lose your job if refuse-Vaxx).
Thjey are likely writing covid on suicide deaths.
They are in Ontario. Reported here a few days ago.
Just caught a small part of an interview on sky news with Danny Mortimer chief exec. NHS Confederation.
He was asked if the NHS, as lots of people on social media were saying, wasn’t under any more pressure than usual for the time of year.
Like a good politician he avoided answering the main point and said something like staff are demoralised and under pressure. I’m off to work now but if anyone can find that interveiw, I switched sky news on at 8.45am, it may be worth watching as I’m sure he didn’t give the government approved answer that was expected of him.
Comment of the day. Already!
The change in WHO herd immunity is really sinister!
And arrogant. The WHO does not have the right to redefine a scientific concept.
Well, they’ve made it that their calling card…redefining what a case is, redefining the qualification for pandemics, the list goes on.
U turn on face knickers…
and lockdowns..
So speaks the man with a 3rd in law, better known for his ‘weapons of mass destruction ……programmes’, who is now the UK’s expert in virology:
Tony Blair calls for the UK to use up ALL coronavirus vaccine supplies on one dose strategy | Daily Mail Online
Why doesn’t Blair just be content with his millions and leave us in peace?
Another one who should be given an one way ticket to Alpha Centauri.
Blair’s Foundation also received $$$ from Gates
Blair believe in the spirit of 33 and the power of purple if you ask me.
and then hand out a Segregation card to go with it, he’s wanted ID’s since forever
Maybe he can take the entire stock himself. There’ll no doubt be a queue of volunteers to administer the jabs to him.
What a fucking idiot. But to make my point in a better way. What does John Major say we shoukd do?
Another one who should join Blair in Alpha Centauri.
He’s just FOMOing. He’d love to have had a “crisis” like this when he was PM.
Not sure exactly how his proposal works in general. There are regulations about how drugs and treatments are approved for good reasons. Is he suggesting these can be overruled with “emergency” authorizations by the government?
What if Hancock decides that it’s a good idea to inject everyone with radium in a year? He might “know” it’s a good thing because he heard it from some science guy in a tie with a white coat, who is also his mate, and happens to own a radium mine.
In theory the one-dose strategy makes sense but you can’t just bend rules like that. We seem to be buying far more doses than we need anyway so I think he can probably calm down. The one saving grace of Bozo compared to Blair is at least he is more incompetent.
CDC update report about the strain in UK.Seems UK is doing more sequencing than US.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/scientific-brief-emerging-variant.html
The VOC 202012/01 variant has not been identified through sequencing efforts in the United States, although viruses have only been sequenced from about 51,000 of the 17 million US cases. Ongoing travel between the United Kingdom and the United States, as well as the high prevalence of this variant among current UK infections, increase the likelihood of importation. Given the small fraction of US infections that have been sequenced, the variant could already be in the United States without having been detected.
Of the approximately 275,000 full-genome sequences currently in public databases, 51,000 are from the United States. (The UK currently has the most sequences, with 125,000).
Surprised after all these months the details of the virus are still important and not why they weaponised a mild virus for the financial reset
People aren’t that scared of Flu – even Spanish Flu scare stories don’t cut the mustard because we all have IRL experience of ignoring the 60K deaths per year
The big scary SARs on the other hand ……………It’s actually perfect for a meme flu
Is this why Boris is so friendly with Gates?
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/e9853u/boriss_father_stanley_johnson_has_been_writing/
Boris’s father, Stanley Johnson has been writing books promoting depopulation for almost fifty years now; starting with ‘Life without Birth: A Journey Through the Third World in Search of the Population Explosion’ published all the way back in 1970.
He’s also a former employee of the World Bank and the European Commission; two of the most prominent promoters of ‘Carbon’ taxation; which would increase the cost of both food and fuel, exponentially. Resolving, they hope, the ‘population issue’.
Stanley was Head of Prevention of Pollution Division at the European Commission (1973 to 1979) and Conservative MEP for Wight and Hampshire East (1979 to 1984).
His first wife (Boris’ mother) Charlotte Johnson Wahl “made her name as a professional portrait painter” for Crispin Tickell; the UN spook who first convinced Margret Thatcher to introduce the concept of CO2 driven ‘climate change’ into mainstream British politics in a speech she gave to the Royal Society, in September 1988.
Sir Crispin is a direct descendent of Thomas Henry Huxley (known as Darwin’s bulldog), one of the first promoters of Darwinism and Eugenics (leading to Government sterilisation policies all over the world).
He should start with his friends in China
Or his son…
Very informative, thank you.
And of course both Stanley and Bozo have taken this to heart [not!].
look a bit deeper. The Great Reset agenda of which ‘Build back better’ is the slogan taken up by all those involved.
The message doesn’t seem to have got through to Boris. 6+ and counting.
Thanks for that. Interesting, they seem to be so fond of population control, except for themselves, of course. There again, you need to seed the next generation of woke, green new deal ‘fighters’. One can only wonder how they fund their broods – those school fees don’t come cheap!
Thanks. Knew about Stanley Johnson, but not about BJ’s mother..
certainly and it seems Boris’ father was on to it all in 1982
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Virus-Stanley-Johnson/dp/1913606309/ref=pd_sbs_1?pd_rd_w=ej8H3&pf_rd_p=2304238d-df78-4b25-a9a0-b27dc7bd722e&pf_rd_r=35QDBK36C7AJ1B9GD1ZK&pd_rd_r=54d7965b-de3f-4106-9cd5-b95b9afa6902&pd_rd_wg=K7R25&pd_rd_i=1913606309&psc=1
The Virus
WHich explains why Boris conults GAtes on all this. BOth their fathrs seem to ahve been in the eugenics movement
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/e9853u/boriss_father_stanley_johnson_has_been_writing/
I never liked Boris’s family and I like them even less now.
There are those who HATE the ‘conspiring to control outcomes Theory’, and who read fiction or watch movies as if their own imagination – in and of which they think, perceive, predict, expect and accept as true.
They HATE such thought because 1. They have been told this is ‘Customary Procedure’ and 2. It might reveal them to their own imagination and they would no longer be ‘safe’ in the ‘what you are supposed to do to be safe’.
The intelligentsia seed memes as fiction and non faction, as part of groundbaiting the phishing to come.
The Virus needs to be investigated as a dramatic archetype, rather than via Expert Pronouncements over the the goats entrails or tea-leaves of computer modelling analysis of a protoplasmic soup (in which we live and move and have our expression and participation in life itself.
Computer modelling has replaced examining goat entrails.
But is nowhere near as reliable.
When will Brady et al stop Boris?
Lol
Correct
Snow-balls and a very hot place spring to mind.
This seems so incredible the ONS figures.Double checked?
https://twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/status/1341653358311038977
More than suspicious. It’s downright impossible for there to be, as claimed, a pandemic of a Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) virus ‘ripping through the country’, yet to have far fewer deaths with the clinical picture you’d expect from a SARS virus: respiratory symptoms.
Same in Germany.
https://twitter.com/JensBehnkeDE/status/1334435865905541127
I think this is the source data set.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
On the Weekly Figures 2020 tab there are 2 rows:
“Deaths where the underlying cause was respiratory disease (ICD-10 J00-J99)”
and
“Deaths where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate (ICD-10 U07.1 and U07.2)”
and a comment above “Note: Deaths could possibly be counted in both causes presented. If a death had an underlying respiratory cause and a mention of COVID-19 then it would appear in both counts.”
Which, to my mind makes this data problematic in principle unless we know the extend of the overlap.
Although we should be able to say that all those dying OF Covid appear in the respiratory disease row. And the mentioned row contains those dying WITH Covid e.g. heart failure.
HOPEFULLY recording a new podcast this afternoon! YIPPEE!
A word from an old boy at Christmas, if I may. It has been a privilege to be in your company for the past 9 months.
Many of you seem to be ready to lose long-standing friends and family over their approach to the current crisis. I urge you to remember that they are just the victims of a propaganda campaign, the like of which has never been seen.
Your friends and family are not evil; they have been sadly misled. They deserve our sympathy. This will be over sooner than you think, but you have to live with them for many years yet.
Forgive them, for they know not what they do.
Wise words. Despite everything, have a merry Yule.
You are noble.
But as I see it, there is a point at which gullibility becomes a crime.
There are a lot of things I can forgive but defending/supporting a totalitarian takeover of the country, the imprisonment of myself and my children, the destruction of my/their lives and futures and the violation of my/their bodies is not one of them.
Can’t do it mate the stakes are too high.
I thought my brother in law was a dickhead long before this and over the past 9 months he’s proved himself to be a very annoying dickhead.
I find people who argue against *facts* very exhausting and maddening. There’s opinion, there’s preference, but when it comes to the simple truth, if they argue against that – with no backup – you gotta walk away.
Agree with you on this but it simply confirms that my parents are well meaning but patronising gits and my sister & brother in law are complicit in child abuse under the guise of love and care.
Am done with them for the time being.
Thats ok up to a point but what when they are being highly abusive to you? I am prepared to differ about things but when the abuse starts about being ‘stupid’ or ‘granny killing’ etc I tend to be a lot less tolerant!
nothing will change until there is a change of government-either here or in Europe provoked by the consequences of the pandemic. They cannot delay elections indefinitely.
…at which point the sheeple will protest by voting in Kier Stalin. Then the liquidations can really begin.
We need far more than a change of government. The entire political system needs to be brought crashing down. You know as well as I know that if the Tories are not in power, Labour are there to make the switch.
It seems the local elections might still go ahead in a few months time – make sure to spoil the paper.
Vote for the most reprehensible people possible
never laughed so hard when the BNP got into the EU Parliament
At this point Left or Right I would put the X next to anyone who will start hanging politicians
There will be anti-lockdown candidates standing – maybe vote for them ?
More than a change of superstructure is called for.
Starmer could be groomed as the ‘saviour’ or good cop to the all out max damage possible under so called conservatives.
I think the process of democracy is being turned into its own spitting image so as to induce people to welcome technocratic rule with virtue signalling for carbon and biosecurity (sic).
Democracy will be reframed as ‘dangerous’ and unworkable, by those who make it so.
I think you’ll find we already lost democracy some time ago.
First part of this podcast is an excellent summary of the Nervtag meeting that plunged us into Christmas lockdown, and an analysis of Fergusson’s unjustifiable justification behind our imprisonment, from an American perspective.
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/more-flawed-imperial-college-models-led-xmas-lockdown-ppe-foreknowledge-vaccine-side-effects/
I don’t wear a mask, because Nicola Sturgeon doesn’t.
Fair.
Sorry, I down-ticked you by mistake, I meant it for an uptick!
Nae offence teken, as Robbie Burns would say.
Mind you, she SHOULD (the whole time)!
Can someone take out some kind of private prosecution of her? Not sure how Scottish law works. And who took the picture? Shows she has some enemies in the inner circle now
I’m sure Alex Salmond would be up for it
As a Vulcan I object to my species being portrayed on film by a human actor.
live long and prosper.
The Chinese have developed a new histogram character for western wokery,
virtue signaling and box ticking in movies.
It translates as ‘whiteliberalshit’
They want tough blokes fighting and the good guy getting the girl.
The Chinese are now the largest audience for moves, Hollywood take note.
And they tend to like straightforward good and evil story lines too.
How dare you! Nimoy wasn’t human.
“Baizuo, (pronounced “bye-tswaw) a derogatory term in Mandarin that refers to the “leftist elites” in the West, has become increasingly popular among China’s netizens”
Start using it to please our CCP masters
Mikado performed by white operatic company.
Mary Poppins – cockney portrayed (v. badly) by American
Aladdin (pantomime) portrayed by non Arabic performers.
Beavers in Lion Witch and wardrobe portrayed by humans not beavers
English people portrayed by non English people
Belgian detective portrayed by English actor.
Yorkshire man portrayed by person from Lancashire.
Americans portrayed by Canadians. (William Shatner as T.J. Hooker)
Scotsmen portrayed by Canadians (James Doohan as Scotty)
reducto ad absurdum
Frenchman portrayed by a Brit (Patrick Stewart and Jean Luc Picard)
Covid-19 portayed by flu.
Although my plans for Christmas haven’t changed whatsoever for this Christmas regardless of whatever idiotic rules they bring in next, I can’t help but feel an overwhelming sense of loss and sadness that any joy to be had in life has effectively been outlawed.
Where the hell did we go wrong that it’s now considered virtuous to not see your family or friends at all? We should all be inherently free to socialise with whoever we wish to. Who the hell do these people think they are that they can dictate to us who we can and can’t see and where?
or
revel in the joy of not following the rules
Do every little thing you can to stick it to the Coronatarians
and smirk whilst doing it
Yup, in 2020 we find ourselves with a government that is dictating what we can and cannot do, where we can go, who we can see, who we can talk to, how far apart we should stand from another human being, what we should wear on our faces…and so many people just roll over and comply.
I find the YouTube channel AwakenWithJP really useful in putting everything in perspective. He highlights masterfully the complete idiocy of what’s going on right now and they’re funny too! I particularly like his video How to Raise Weak Children During Lockdowns. Everything he says is so spot on!
https://youtube.com/user/AwakenWithJP
Or who you can have sex with.
The latest from The Bernician is here:
https://www.thebernician.net/covid-1984-pcp-update-prima-facie-evidence-of-pandemic-fraud/
There is a very good summary of the evidence for a criminal prosecution, but still some hurdles to overcome.
As said last night it contains some valid comme t about Dolan’s case. Worth a read. It does provide a good recap of key points of evidence as you say.
Reply to Swedenborg somewhere below, a double check of the ONS figures here, up to 4th Dec 2020.
https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/static-reports/mortality-surveillance/excess-mortality-in-england-latest.html
relevant figure attached.
“We’ve had lockdowns in Wales, we’ve had the lockdowns in the north-west, and every time there’s a lockdown, the case rates increased, and there’s nobody seems to be able to put an answer to that, except for the fact that, when you have a lockdown, you maximise the testing, and, when there’s a testing problem, you’re going to get the maximum error rates from maximum testing.”
The definition of insanity now applies to any form of lockdown-ing and to any person advocating, demanding or executing it.
Let’s hope it doesn’t immunize them from their eventual prosecution.
The answer that I hear is something along the lines of “but the kids are still at school” “it’s those people not wearing masks” “i’ve been out at shops and people aren’t even observing social distancing”. people are still stuck in the details. Debating tiers and the nuances of rules. The behavioural team have done an exceptional job of dividing our nation through multiple avenues.
We are miles off rejecting it all for a return to normality. As many seems to agree on here we are not going back to normal and from what I gather the population don’t seem to want normal anyway.
I hate to sound bleak but I don’t see how we win the fight back to normal. I don’t know what outcome would be considered a success at this rate?
I agree that many don’t seem to want normal. After 9 months of fear mongering and infantilisation their expectations for themselves and our society seem to have shifted, perhaps irrevocably.
Like many others here I have always thought that the shift will come when enough people feel the economic pain, but who knows when the magic money tree will finally wither. People are gradually joining the ranks of the unemployed, but the gradual drip, drip and lack of attention to this from MSM seems to ensure that the magnitude of the disaster remains obscured. I wonder whether this will prevent the sense of shared grievance and anger ever reaching the critical mass. Will people just remain in their physical and psychological isolation and accept defeat?
I’m sorry that’s not hopeful, just wondering aloud….
The financial collapse is on it’s way, don’t worry.
In my opinion the reason for this operation was to delay/deal with it, install the social controls that were deemed necessary.
Taxation now covers less than half of government expenditure – month after month after month.
I know it must be. Whether that was planned or not from the beginning, I agree that it now necessitates the social control that is tightening with every turn of the screw.
Great post and we need to consider this properly. The 1930s are often seen as a terrible decade economically. They certainly were for those who were unemployed with little financial support. However real wages grew for the great majority in work which lessens the political pressure for change. I think there are strong parallels with today.
Also I know someone who lost his job at M and S in November as they got rid of large numbers of jobs. Now he was always a huge lockdown zealot and he still is!! He blames his job loss on ‘the pandemic’ and not the lockdowns. So maybe we should not be too complacent about economic pain changing minds. I used to feel sorry for him but now I have little sympathy.
Mask-wearing doesn’t help either…
You Covid infested vermin
Chairman dRapeford has proclaimed it is all your fault
Leicester has never been out of lockdown since March! And it doesn’t make a single bit of difference… possibly even makes it worse.
Coming home from work this morning, these lyrics were fairly appropriate.
Close every door to me,
Hide all the world from me
Bar all the windows
And shut out the light
Do what you want with me,
Hate me and laugh at me
Darken my daytime
And torture my night
Sums up the coming days quite nicely in my view.
Thanks for the link to my daft skit in the update
Some great stuff today. But for me this line from our doctor, I thought was simple and refreshing honesty, something we’ve missed a lot of this year. This is where we’re at at this time of year.
The straight answer is I don’t know. It could be as simple as a change in the weather.
Tone, shut the fuck up eh, mate? Asking for a nation.
The WHO has gone full witchcraft and has certified itself as being officially corrupt with its new definition of herd immunity.
As Gatti, Montanari and CHD have stated, scientifically, the exact opposite is true: medical evidence for herd immunity through vaccinations simply does not exist.
But at least their take on it is now officially confirmed: that herd immunity is an entirely theoretical computer model concept without any medical evidence, invented by computer modelers, aka epidemiologists, on behalf of the vaccine industry, to justify the vaccination of all people, so, in particular of everyone not at risk of a pathogen or disease, in order to reap even more gigantic profits and bribes and in order to be able to pursue eugenic agendas more easily.
The WHO is just the collective voice of pharma companies, since it is they who mostly finance it. That’s how the word ‘pandemic’ changed its definition (by the WHO) in 2009, because Pharma companies applied pressure on the WHO to change it
Gig. St Petersburg. Russia. Dec 20, 2020
Russia and China are now better places to live.
Russia certainly seems more appealing, which is quite a revelation.
Until the government stops manipulating the statistics about Covid and they stop MSM from fear mongering headlines I will ignore all their ‘advice’. Having just watched a video by a American Professor about how viruses mutate it becomes clear that we have unscrupulous government advisors who pick and choose which bits of evidence to release.
I’d like to highly recommend a really good podcast (sorry can’t link to it as I’m not on my usual device) Escape from Lockdown where he interviews the cartoonist Bob Moran (23 Oct). BM talks with great wisdom and compassion about the need to see human faces, have ordinary human contact among other interesting things.
Sorry not to be more helpful with the links!
Escape from Lockdown, episode 23 with Bob Moran (2020-10-26).
More good stuff from RFK Jr. In conversation with a Bush you can support – Dr Zach Bush.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/truth-rfk-jr-dr-zach-bush/
re. The Mail wonders why PHE only alerted Government scientists to the new variant in December when they had known about it since October, and why the scientists didn’t then pass the information on to ministers for several weeks.
So if I’m reading this right. When the govt showed us at the end of Oct the charts showing if we don’t lockdown we will have 4,000 deaths a day, what they could have said: We have identified a mutant variation. There we have to lockdown. That didn’t work out!
Because they only came up with the cunning plan a couple of weeks ago and then had to go and find a mutant strain that fit the bill?
Exactly. Lockdown wasn’t working down South so rather than admit lockdown as a flawed policy they used the lockdown immune mutant strain to explain it. Lockdown is an article of faith. The mutant strain argument is akin to those used by creationists to explain the existence of dinosaurs.
They only came up with the plan when all their fake statistics were torn to shreds. The ONS has failed to report the results of their survey for the last two weeks so all we have are massive increase in testing leading to an increase in false positives.
“We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.“
Quote of the day
Brilliant article:
https://www.thebellows.org/the-great-covid-class-war/
“The pandemic is a convenient scapegoat for the largest upward wealth transfer in modern human history. Under the pretext of a public health policy, elites have successfully waged a counterrevolution that will result in the erosion of working conditions and quality of life for generations to come.
…
Lockdown fanatics have helped manufacture consent for a brutal reorganization of labor that will plunge millions of people into serfdom. The work-from-home lifestyle is only possible through the labor of logistics workers who transport, sort, and deliver goods. Currently about 10 million jobs that existed in February have not been replaced. Many workers have been forced to take on part-time, no-contract work, a labor model that is rolling back decades of hard-fought protections.
…
At the start of the covid crisis, vocal segments of the American left argued that economic shutdown was a way to resist billionaires and capitalism. This demonstrated a deep misunderstanding of the way financiers can profit from economic contraction. Many on the left chose to ignore the Biblical scale of the destruction that economic stoppages would cause, arguing that the covid crisis was an opportunity. Today the left continues to advance the illusion that meaningful relief is possible, while workers’ pensions are plundered, children’s futures disappear, and 150 million people are pushed into extreme poverty worldwide. Lockdowns were not bungled by incompetent leaders. They were in fact executed perfectly, because their purpose was not public health but rather the rapid installment of a regressive neoliberal agenda designed by the nonprofit industrial complex.”
“Many on the left chose to ignore the Biblical scale of the destruction that economic stoppages would cause, arguing that the covid crisis was an opportunity. … Lockdowns were not bungled by incompetent leaders. They were in fact executed perfectly, because their purpose was not public health but rather the rapid installment of a regressive neoliberal agenda designed by the nonprofit industrial complex.”
And so it goes and will continue to go. The “incompetence” meme has been the great calling card of the Left and of the “radical satirical writers” every step of the way. The Spitting Image sketch with its schoolboy fart humour is a marginally more moronic version of this Leftist “subversion”. These self-congratulating “rebels” launch their “incisive” attacks on the establishment without ever showing any awareness at all that they are simply puppets playing a role in a theatre that has been set up for them.
Superb but horrifying. More so than new strain of Covid that’s for sure.
Once you add in the fact that people will soon come face to face with the personal costs of all this, the political upheaval will be huge as they also realise they’ve also given up freedom, job security (job insecurity is a good thing for the elites remember) and any semblance of secure incomes.
Job insecurity is only good for the elite if kept within certain proportions. If unemployment becomes too high that part of the population can become a vocal and existential threat to the elite. Carrot and stick only works if the stick is under a certain length.
And the most nauseating thing is that when they start to complain about these very real issues, they will be condemned for being “selfish” as in “Don’t you know there’s a plague on?”
Sounds like typical gobbledegook from the cousins to me. “Regressive neoliberalism”. Really? Still, good for a bit of pre-xmas entertainment
100% Neo Liberalism.
Why large swathes of the Left are on board is beyond me
Congratulations for homing in on two words you don’t like. If “regressive neoliberal” annoys you then substitute, “massive carve up”.
I wondered how long it would be before this
popped up again.
Am I being particularly stupid?
New mutant strain discovered September but “PHE did not alert the Government or its scientists to the mutated strain’s existence until December, by which point more than 1,100 people were confirmed to have had the new version of the virus.”
But Google’s cases data shows that after the original outbreak at the beginning of March cases were running at 4-5000 a day after about a month. Meanwhile the new 70% more infectious variety has taken 3 months to get to 1,100 total cases? The only thing that seems to be 70% more infectious is stupidity.
So the Turdgeon is a lying hypocrite. Who knew?
Oooh gosh, I am so shocked.
BTW, have you ever seen a pic of Dungford in face knickers?
Fire destroys Hydroxychloroquine factory in Taiwan:
“Liberty Times reported that the factory produces hydroxychloroquine APIs, and is the world’s second largest HCQ raw material supplier.”
https://taiwanenglishnews.com/pharmaceutical-factory-on-fire-after-explosion-2-injured/
Deliberate?
I don’t know.
Who would have anything against hydroxychloroquine.
It’s just a drug for treating illnesses.
Pfisis extremists.
ha very good!
Great question. Very suspicious
stop at nothing, they are evil
The same people would make up ‘weapons of mass destruction’ to start a war that further destabilised an already chaotic region, so burning down a factory is neither here nor there to them.
Tell us something we don’t know!
Yawn.Old news.
According to the DM, we’re on day 275 of lockdown, so it never ended.
“SAGE is not dealing in science. It’s dealing in 20th-psychological mumbo-jumbo”
Indeed. As you say ‘zero Covid’ is the fantasy only of lunatics who need a straight jacket, not a laboratory for their activities.
“MHRA has responded to my email questions about the origin of the genomic sequence from which the material known as mRNA in the Pfizer BioNTech #vaccine derives.
I quote:
“The DNA template used does not come directly from an isolated virus from an infected person.””
https://twitter.com/2013Boodicca/status/1341565604273242113?s=20
The thread goes on:
“& “The DNA template(severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, GenBank: MN908947.3) was generated via a combination of gene synthesis and recombinant DNA technology.”
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/944544/COVID-19_mRNA_Vaccine_BNT162b2__UKPAR___PFIZER_BIONTECH__15Dec2020.pdf…”
It continues:
“I had to push hard to get the answer I wanted.
I had to know if the mRNA is genuine or created by a computer program. All evidence pointed to there being no isolated #SARSCov2 virus anywhere in the world.
Given our recent experiences with computer “models” –
Can we trust this?”
The thread continues on the link above.
Brilliant work by Frances Leader.
So why would they not be basing their work on an isolated virus from an infected person? …?
Here in Kent probably 80% wearing masks outside. The government and media have really done a number on them, no need for mandation. I wonder if these people will accept it’s safe again just as quickly when told. Probably. No evidence of any independent thought here.
Same in C London..You now get funny look s for NOT wearing a mask outside. I had a family ( all masked including a toddler in a buggy!!) literally spotting me, stopping, and in panic crossing a busy road. People are complying totally..
Complying with what? Nobody told them to knicker up outside.
The Ming the Merciless story shows how much standards of education have slipped and how our governing class seek to patronise us and deprive people of what they enjoy.
Anyone with half a brain could see that Flash Gordon is a fictional character and that the film itself is fiction. How Ming the Merciless could potentially be offensive is stupid.
As someone who is of East Asian extraction, I’m very much aware that Ming is a fictional character from the Planet Mongo which is a fictional place. Nothing to do with that part of the world.
Oh, you naughty race traitor, you. Don’t you know that it’s your inalienable inherited job to be perpetually seething with rage against the wickedness of Whitey, and this rage is to be directed against any target indicated by your superiors? It’s called liberation, and progress. Get with the programme!
The fact that the baizuo immediately jump to conflating Ming with East Asians, states everything about them and nothing about Flash Gordon.
Wokery places race at the heart of everything- whilst calling everyone else a racist
Agree. Whoever coined that term is spot on.
but as you are of Asian extraction you are not allowed to think for yourself .. Your thinking must be done by a white liberal man on your behalf and you must take offence because he says you should.
Or woman!!! If anything the women are the worst!
Could be wrong, but this seems like the deliberate sabotage for the destruction of western economies including preventing a no deal brexit for the financial reset, could be wrong….
Deliberate or no, the result will be the same.
It certainly looks like engineered panic using the mainstream media for propaganda and the police for the physical intimidation. The money being created from nowhere will suddenly need to be repaid to nowhere when the social engineering strategy switched back to taxation.
I am sure the police officers will be awarded Iron Crosses or something similar for the terror campaign they are carrying out.
Economic war by Red China to get Trump out and Bejing Biden in
Toby ,the founder of this site is unable to accept this. He says he cannot see what anyone would gain from such a deliberate act. See the latest ‘london calling’ with James Delingpole.
I took a cross country car trip yesterday mainly travelling on motorways. This would be a very boring message in normal times as there were no problems whatsoever. There was quite heavy traffic and a lot of HGVs. My journey took me from tier 2 to tier 3. I saw one police vehicle the whole journey. Motorway signs informed me of the current tier status although i’m uncertain what relevance this has to driving. Do I go faster in tier 3 to outrun the virus? There was some pointless message about travel documents to the EU on some message boards. It seemed to me if you understood the message (I didn’t) then you would have already done what was required.
I was a bit anxious about going into services mask free but no problem there. When you have an eating area others are mask free so I didn’t feel out of place. As suggested to me by another contributor (thanks!) I now carry a lanyard under my jumper. It is not really visible at all but helps with confidence. Maybe a bit like having a cross to ward off vampires.
Later that evening I went to the local morrisons to get Christmas grub in. It was fine being unmasked there too. Lots of staff were out restocking the shelves nearly all mask free. Everyone friendly. It felt almost normal. Not really any sign of panic buying. They were out of sprouts (panic!) but other than that I got everything I needed.
Glad to hear they were out of sprouts. Now you can have a Brexit Christmas dinner – no Brussels.
I like sprouts! I will resist the anti-sprout mafia to my last sprout! No dinner without sprouts! Free the sprout! Down with sproutism! Fight sprout hysteria NOW!
I’m a sprout fan too. I’ll suffer any indignity but take away my sprouts and there will be trouble.
with pancetta and chestnuts.
Get in mah belly!
Hey, if the world ran out of sprouts forever it wouldn’t be a day too soon.
My experience in the supermarket was much the same.
How do you find the attitude of small food shops to being mask free? I’m wary as I expect it may vary quite a lot depending the attitude of who runs the place.
You are right it does.
No panic buying in Lidl this morning, in fact they seem to have overstocked on bread as there was quite a lot at reduced price being near its use-by date. Usually the public when approaching a holiday weekend seem to buy enough supplies for a month, so I don’t know why that isn’t happening now especially as a full lockdown seems to be on the way very soon.
The data showing that the new mutant super-strain results in higher viral load. Well maybe. A bit.
https://t.co/UvNhqdPvkN?amp=1
Looking at the box plots you can see that they’re pretty close together. They do some statistical analysis the results of which are in Table 1. Basically it’s saying the odds of your having high viral load if you catch the new Y501 mutant are somewhere between 1.111x and 23.218x what they are if you catch plain old N501. Because that range just excludes 1 this counts as statistically significant. By a whisker.
By “high viral” load they mean greater than >= 10^3 on their diagram. It’s not clear if they cherry-picked that threshold to just scrape past 1 on the odds-ratio.
Conclude from this what you will but it’s not a smoking gun.
Well they’ve cherry-picked everything else – or just invented numbers to suit if that still didn’t work.
Claire Craig (above) on the actual sample numbers is v. interesting. Still – shit statistics are the order of the day.
Visualization of lockdown costs vs benefits from Prof Norman Fenton:
https://twitter.com/profnfenton/status/1340349961301614595/photo/1
“The numbers look awful” the source said.
Swathes are plunging
Spikes are surging
The “mutant virus” is bleeding (WTF??!)
It’s UNPRECEDENTED!
It’s also a load of egregious bollox.
How can they print this fearmongering drivel every day and then sleep at night?
Might be a bit off topic, but this old SNL sketch seems to have renewed relevance, lot’s of bad people getting sump’n this year..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnP2jO06gc
Alert – emergency meeting of Science & Technology committee with Horby, Barclay and Ferguson of NERVTAG
If only Dingwall had been called!
This was the email I received for a team leader roll……….
An exciting opportunity to support the fight against Covid-19 as a Team Leader!
The UK’s testing capacity is growing, why not put your previous experience to valuable use and support the Covid recovery efforts to help reopen society and the economy, through a role across 3 schools – however you will be based at 1 school.
Pay rate: £21 per hour
Location: Milton Keynes
Hours: School time hours Mon – Fri
Contract: 4 – 6 weeks
Start sdate: January 2021
*MUST HAVE experience in relevant sector*
Key Responsibilities:
As a team leader you will be responsible for the day-to-day supervising and supporting managers in the testing centres as well as other duties such as:
• Undertake training on how to administer the throat and nasal swab test
• Undertake training on hand washing and ensure personal hygiene is maintained to a high level
• If needed (e.g. disabled students and staff) undertake throat and nasal swab test
• Undertake training on Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) requirements and ensure PPE is worn and changed as required.
• Support Test Operative and Test Processing Operative.
• Enables switching of tasks to avoid repetitive tasks throughout the session.
Requirements:
• Commitment to the work and to following the strict guideline and procedures required
• Experience working with members of the public/patients
• Good interpersonal skills and caring nature
• Must be able to physically stand for several hours.
Full training and supervision will be provided.
Thank goodness I am unemployable.
you could apply for the job and then subvert these fuckers if they offered you the job
You and me both!
DavidC
Full training so’s you can wash your hands.
This is a registered nurse educator role. Band 7.
Commitment to the work! What? Really this isn’t a spoof? They are using vacated heads to write their adverts now.
I am an expert in sitting around watching Netflix, I have a lot of relevant experience and could even lead people in this sector. Perhaps I could persuade my employer to put me on furlough and then at £21 an hour make a nice tidy Christmas bonus.
Big Pharma brownshirts
Morning, Just listenimng to the BASTARD BBC (R4) and BBC woman interviewing a woman who runs an advice service for families and is saying they are totally inudated with calls 1 in 3 of which they can’t now answer as they are so busy.
They are busy with people terrified that their children will be taken into care, that their families are breaking up, that domestic violence against women is OFF THE CHARTS!
So the twatt of a presenter on the bastard BBC just cannot bring herself to say that this shit show is caused by the bullshit the BBC has pumped out for the oast 10 months and the insane policies of the Fat Pig Dictator and his band on insane psychopaths, NO its the pandemic innit.
I hate the BBC so much, just 3 minutes and I am shaking with RAGE.
While I am here, the WHO’s re-classification of community immunity is just pure hardcore psy-op, bastards, and fuck Costco for ever. Bastards.
As for the testing of school kids by some bloke called Darren who used to work in a vape shop but is now stuffing cotton buds deep into kids faces. Fuck that too.
Any parents or teachers who consent to this need prosecution for child abuse.
Agree shole-heartedly, Two-Six, but take care of yourself, SWITCH OFF YOUR RADIO!
I don’t listen to it. And I have utter contempt for anyone who still does, given the blatant lies they have propagated. Much of what they spew out about the virus is contradicted by the NHS’s own figures and statements, but they can’t even be bothered to look that far.
Stopped listening to Radio 4 eons ago when it dawned on me that I wanted to stab the radio with my chopping knife.
Look, I stopped reading any of the articles about 2 months ago. What news are they telling me? We all know this is aa complete dumpster fire of a situation and it does not matter how many experts or doctors or fucking Nobel prize winners says so .The 995 of the population does not care , and will not be told otherwise. What did Mark twain Said : It’s easier to fool people that to tell them they they have been fooled themselves.
Unless somebody says this on the BBC at 6 Pm news or at PM briefing, it does not mean anything for almost everybody in this fucking country. I’m here for the rants, companionship and moral support of the LS community. Because let’s be hones, we cannot go anywhere else and post the thing that we post without being called very nasty names. My prediction for 2021, same as 2020 but a lot worse in every single way. Merry Fucking Christmas.
OK – ranting has its place, and converting anyone is a slow hard job. But it does happen (said from a Christmas house full of now sceptics of various strengths, but all debating the latest information and trying to keep up with reality).
And whilst letting off steam is OK, the main use of this site is as a clearing house for emerging hard data and rational opinion based on it. I may be angry – but I also want to be well-informed and right.
Ditto
Yep
Leave Icke and bonkers Corbyn on the peg outside please
I’m taking the giant hint from the universe and moving inward, instead of worrying about the pandemic of insanity currently sweeping our world of lies and illusion. My bags are packed and I’m sneaking out the back door in the dead of night. I won’t be coming back again.
Good luck all, see you on the other side.
“Wisdom is knowing I am nothing,
Love is knowing I am everything,
and between the two my life moves.”
― Nisargadatta Maharaj
This is not really a place for converting people. It’s more a place of r&r, reinforcement, resupply, and inspiration for those already disillusioned with the elite dogma.
As RickH points out, one of the primary uses of this place has always been disseminating information and arguments that counter the prevailing propaganda. I know a number of people who say they read the atl material but never come to the comments.
And alongside that purpose has always been the other goal that you describe of providing a meeting place for like-minded antilockdowners. One of the main goals of elite propaganda and censorship has always been to make dissenters feel isolated, alone and insane – as it was done to “racists”, so it is being done now to lockdown dissenters and “anti-vaxxers”. The parallels are stark for anyone who has observed these developments honestly over the past half century Places like this counter that directly.
So there are twin primary benefits of LS to the antilockdown cause. Neither should be underestimated in its importance, imo.
From the update:
“The big difference between this year and previous winter ‘crises’ is that Hospital staff are now being repeatedly tested for Covid…”
No, they are being administered a PCR, which is represented as – when positive – indicating the presence of a virus called SarsCov-2 (which according to the CDC has not been isolated) which is presumed to cause a disease called covid-19, the symptoms of which are virtually identical to those of other repiratory diseases.
Surprised not to have seen any mention.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9080705/Tens-millions-30-minute-virus-swabs-set-sent-out.html
Send every home a test and you can guarantee we will be seeing headlines like 1 million infected by mutant virus.
Not to mention the obscene cost of the testing kits. We seem to be spending the equivalent cost of a new (fully staffed) hospital every week, just on pointless testing to tell us either, we might have the virus, or you might not but or you have had it at some time in the past but we can’t tell you if you are still infectious.
I still have that piece of Stilton in my fridge…
DavidC
The amount of money being wasted is a good one to use on those who seem to believe in it all – when asked if they honestly can’t think it would be better spent
“The MHRA is said to be ‘keen to emphasise that the devices are allowed to be used only to ‘find’ cases of Covid-19 infections, so that people who were not aware they had the virus are able to isolate’. ‘They are not to be used to ‘enable’ people to make life decisions,’ they added.”
Translation: it’s reliable enough to force you into hiding for a fortnight and not be able to work, but it’s not reliable enough to enable you to make any choices about your life.
Sounds legit.
My Christmas turkey is sitting on the freezer as I type……
From David Scott Nothern Exposure/UK Colum
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Nicola Sturgeon apologises after not wearing a face mask in a pub
Conclusion:
@NicolaSturgeon
does not believe there is a significant risk from normal behaviour or does not believe masks are beneficial.
___
We all know this, it is a useful snippet for the Christmas Table, just after the cracker pull perhaps.
A possible addition is to mention sturgeon’s pulpit partner in crime calderwood lied to obscure facts about her conduct, in the same way as a toddler may.
The point is these people know every risk going they are soaked to their gills in death data, yet they are sorry and forget. Well you don’t sorry and forget in the face of a true plague. Conclusion those with every tiny bit of data are relaxed as a lizard in a lounge bar because there are no statistically meaningful dangers.
I would also add Tobias Ellwood’s name to the growing list of people who are far too important to uphold the rules they ram down everyone else’s throats.
Lt col privy council tob the nob elwood mp
I think the tactic should not be to ponce around demanding retribution bur, as said, use these incidents to underline that even these fanatics don’r believe their own propaganda.
JHuntz posted this last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkcaeaD45MY
In a nutshell.
Yes that’s fantastic.. everyone should view it. Also I love Jacinda’s strangulated vowels:
“Beeled beck bitter.” Apologies to any Kiwis here who don’t think their accent should be considered highly amusing.
And it sounded like the words “Build back better” were going be the last to be spoken by Bill Clinton on this earth.
She was clearly talking about a new beer company
I always used to crease up at the airports there when I heard over the tannoy: “Will Mr So-and-So please go to the chicken desk”!
Please can everyone who feels like commenting on articles / videos remind everyone that that’s what the NIGHTINGALE HOSPITALS were meant for.
It doesn’t matter if there’s loads of new patients because there’s meant to be fever hospitals to accomodate them.
In the sludge of propoganda, people have forgotten that part of the story.
The Nightingales were only ever meant for people who had covid and no other health needs. Of course that’s virtually no one.
… and they were set up particularly to provide intubation (remember the ‘solution’) – another forgotten craze, after its detrimental effects emerged.
Sometimes the excuse is given they don’t have the people to staff them! I don’t believe that but if it were true, that is simply gross incompetence on the part of the NHS and Department of Health. They’ve had nearly a year to prepare.
What you don’t take into account is that we have had 9 months of selective amnesia over all sorts of pronouncements and actions. It is a major public relations strategy.
That is why the narrative and rules keep changing.
My nearest hospital had 3 new Covid-19 patients yesterday. They are not overwhelmed on that score.
However they are overwhelmed in areas like cancer treatment. My sister is a cancer nurse and they have a large backlog of cases due to the shutdown earlier in the year. The cases they deal with are more serious (again due to the shutdown), they have fewer staff (because of a number off isolating), and they are able to treat as many patients due to the Covid cleaning rules.
It sounds like an awful working environment.
Loads of wards in Welsh hospitals are shut because the staff are all enjoying a PCR holiday. Aaargh, crisis.
Talk about hoist with their own petard.
But it’s people who are genuinely ill who will suffer.
My abiding memory is China building the hospitals months before and then they weren’t used. A clear sign that the hype was not the reality. We followed suit later and exactly the same thing happened.
They were FRIGHTingale hospitals
Nothing more
About as useful as a cock flavoured lollipop
Why is the BBC running cover for Sturgeon? They claim she took off her mask at a funeral. No, it was at a wake, not a funeral.
They note it is an offence punishable by a fine but do not contact the authorities to find out when she will be prosecuted.
They carry no negative comments from her political opponents.
She’s been lecturing everyone for best part of a year about how important it is to follow the rules in order to save lives. Now she is trying to make out it was just a silly mistake and nothing to do with saving lives or endangering them. Sorry that’s not good enough from one who is so po-faced, hectoring and moralistic about the issue.
It would appear she was walking about a bar without her mask on and talking to elderly potentially at risk people at a table that were not members of her household. She claims she forgot to put her mask on! That will be the same memory problems she had when in front of enquiry she completely forgot about the first time she was told about allegations about Alex Salmond. #resignsturgeon
The BBC will cover for the politicians as long as they support lockdowns. If any politician steps out of line, the BBC will slaughter them. IMO they are not pro-lockdown because it is government policy, they are pro lockdown because it suits their agenda.
Richard Tices letter to tiny tears wancock is excellent. Really challenges him to produce evidence that the PCR tests are reliable, to tell and give evidence of the cycling rate being used, to demonstrate the reasons for using the PCR test rather than the flow tests. He really digs deep and challenges all the narratives the government is currently fully complying with and the evidence that these policies are correct.
Yes I have been impressed by his ability to dig deep.
King Canute sought to demonstrate the limits of power – presumably because too many around him assumed that as King he could make everything safe.
The modern iteration is a usurped sovereignty that feeds such magical superstition by using the law as a weapon against the people rather than as the protection for the people of the realm.
Likewise the mind as the means and medium of communication – both within and without – is being set in the use of its own lockdown, dissociation and masking over in magical thinking that of course is spellbound and unable to think or reflect upon its own capture.
“Everything is BACKWARDS; everything is upside down! Doctors destroy health, Lawyers destroy justice, Universities destroy knowledge, Governments destroy freedom, Major media destroys information, And religions destroy spirituality”. ~ Michael Ellner
But pause and consider whether in the haste of reaction to an already invested sense of self and world, we have not merely inverted our frame of reference,
The ability of the mind to ‘see’ according to predetermined primers or parameters, is then linked with its magnification and replication.
Looking for what is wrong, threatening, unlovely or hateful in any and every situation is a subconscious defence mechanism that runs beneath the surface, from a deeper sense of guilt and fear of exposure to pain and loss. It is part of a selfishness for survival in the human social world – that extended from the physical but in ways that have dissociated and alienated us from the direct presence of life.
Our social world can be seen as a modelling of predicates, parameters and projections.
In my posts I generally seek to invite looking at the mind that makes our world rather than ‘thinking’ in its program.
The experience of disclosure to ourselves includes a disintegration of our masking in a control reality – which has both inner masking from our being, and social presentations for acceptance and inclusion.
The loss of the illusion of control is seemingly regained by doubling down in a mind that rules out reality of being, so as to operate within a reduced framework of thought.
Take is an an offer or invitation, dressed up as a Very Persuasive Case.
But If you are not willing to deny yourself More and Even More – then of course.
Stop it and just Be.
Within being are other ways to see than WHO gets to Say What The Rules of The Game Are. And by releasing the tightness of such a mask, are other ways of seeing and being with people …and Everything.
So in actual fact peeling bliar away from this story and taking michie for whats she is worth are we perhaps seeing a major crack opening in their plan. The vaccine roll out is not going to work for some reason? Not enough squalene (sp) or not enough uptake or too many reactions?
It feels as though their is some modelling that is causing the 2 shot plan to be collapsed or cut short.
From the De Kalb County death records:
https://archive.is/B41Zl
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/kio8hj/tiffany_dover_death_record/
If it is that nurse tiffany Dover then sad news nd what is going on?
Thanks – great find.
I also wonder about Margaret Keenan.
too good to be true
be funny if Dover keeled over
You could tune into a talkRADIO show from May, June.. August.. December.. any date and you just get the same discussions again and again and again.. I think there will be a deal.. lockdowns don’t work.. there is no conspiracy.. there will be a brexit deal.. we must walk away.. lockdowns don’t work.. covid is a terrible disease but.. we will get a deal.. lockdowns don’t work.. and round aqnd round and round.. it’s sending me insane.. I guess if you are paid £1000 plus for each show you can tolerate that madness.
My feelings exactly. Every day , rinse and repeat. Can’t listen to it anymore. I cant’ watch tv or listen to the radio..I only watch tv series or movies now.
Contrary to you, I find TalkRadio the only place where I hear alternative views and some positivity. It has been an important contribution to me retaining my sanity over the last few months.
It’s like the whole world is stuck in an horrendous Groundhog Day loop.
I suppose TPTB don’t want to change a winning formula.
When will Boris and Nut Nut and Wanksock be gone?
Whenever they go they will simply be replaced by others of their ilk and those of us who can see that things could be done differently are still going to suffer the stupidity of our somnolent fellow voters. The mess we are in is a consequence of unqualified universal suffrage and nothing can be changed until we do away with the right of any and everyone to vote on matters they cannot understand.
As pathetic and ghastly and useless and feeble as Boris has been, Starmer is a full blown fascist for whom any freedom is too much. Things can always be worse.
Starmer isn’t going to become PM unless and until there is a general election and that won’t be for years. Johnson will be subject to a vote of no confidence by Easter and will be replaced by another Tory.
Will we be allowed another general election? Has any corrupt, incompetent and panic stricken elite ever allowed the masses the opportunity to replace it peacefully? I’m not aware of an example.
There will be an election as all the main parties only differ in the severity of restrictions they wish to impose
I predict we will see a National Government after the next election. It’s the only way no-one will be held accountable.
We may have elections – postal vote only, obviously.
When a new mutant strain of Corona Chan arrives that actually goes straight for the fatties
.
The same pattern that has been seen all over the world. The elite do not follow their own rules and avoid being prosecuted when they break the laws on lockdowns and masking. In the USA numerous governors and health officials have been caught out breaking the rules. It is only the gullible public who follow them religiously.
First time caught, that’s all
In need if caffeine and tobacco I pulled into a chain pub that does breakfast.
The door that leads to the smoking shelter is labelled ‘exit only’, which I ignore as usual. Make a sleight pretence with sanitizer but none at all with the QR code.
At the bar I see Santa Clause sitting by the big old fashioned fireplace.
By now I’ve noticed the pub is busier than usual with quite a lot of young families.
As each child was presented to Santa I was surprised not to see sheets of plastic between them. Social Distancing was not observed with Santa actually handing each child their present.
I couldn’t actually see but I suspect Santa was not wearing a mask underneath his flowing white beard.
Thanks for that snapshot of Christmas cheer!
I hate to break it to you, it wasn’t really Santa.
In 2020 Santa Clause has been replaced with Santa Klaus
Ferguson – ‘anecdote’ and ‘hint’ that there is more transmission in children. Umh – talking complete balls!
Simple response, show us the science. And I don’t mean a model.
There have been many bad actors and sins of commission and omission in this disaster, but it almost beggars belief how one man could sow so much destruction and how many people let it happen at every stage by lacking the courage to say “no” or even just “hold on”. SAGE, politicians, others here and elsewhere.
Unless you believe there was some planning, which I tend not to, though I can up to a point understand why people think there is.
Unfortunately “show me the science” doesn’t work as they just rewrite the science when it suits them
Hence 76 genders and trans women are now females
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/police-launch-investigation-death-brandy-vaughn/
Agreed, it’s complete madness.
But it’s planned pre-meditated madness.
I think it’s just as important to challenge those who call this tyranny ‘incompetence’ due to bad advice, as it is to defeat the lockdown zealots. This has been planned for a long time.
I’ve just read the setion ‘What follows is a guest post from our doctor friend and regular contributor who used to be a senior NHS panjandrum’.
I’ve also just checked the difinition of ‘panjandrum’ as it looked a bit odd.
‘Panjandrum definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary
Panjandrum definition: a pompous self-important official or person of rank’.
Is that REALLY what you meant?! I doubt it!
DavidC
The usual definition is someone actually important, influential or powerful — but it can also mean someone self-important. Probably the two overlap so much that it doesn’t matter!
In case you haven’t seen this, the web of who owns what media.
I wish there was a high definition version of this. Depressing to see the New Yorker magazine on that list
Try getting it from here:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-american-empire-and-its-media/5600442
Thank you
The New Yorker has been so pro Biden and lockdown I’ve cancelled my subscription.
That’s such a shame. Like the death of something special
I used to read The Economist, no longer.
At least we have Conservative Women, Spiked, Spectator and Off-Guardian. Great writing. Would anyone add to that list?
The Critic is really good too
Noticed a jogger in his 30’s built like an outside toilet block in the pouring rain wearing a face nappy.
Scrooge has more competition than ever.
You CAN stack shit that tall! Obviously got shitferbrains too if he’s wearing noseknickers outside in the rain
Horby – ‘a possible suggestion’ of more transmission in children! This is not just bull, it is criminal bull if this is the basis for potentially closing schools in January, let alone Tier 4
A Communist Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAYITZRdJk
AwakenWithJP
The banks, Bill Gates and Pharma are hardly communist
Fascism is extremely close to communism.During the Nazi era in Germany many people felt that it was akin to Bolshevism in practice.
Who owns the means of production will tell you which state of oppression you are in.The end result for the masses is generally the same.
Yes, exactly.
Communism and Fascism are variants of the same root.
They all considered fascism to be the purest form of socialism
In reality socialism had been around for a while
National Socialism was a different beast- had some very left wing and some very right wing elements
Bit sneaky that the Conservatives got saddled with that one when it was clearly a radical centrist party
It’s true. Mussolini was a leading socialist in Italy and edited the main socialist newspaper. Mosley was a leading Labour socialist (before embracing fascism). Many prominent left wing socialists eg Hyndman in the UK were also v anti-semitic.
Communism suits them, because it freezes – or attempts to freeze – economy and society in its present condition. It eliminates competition and prevents rival businesses from accumulating capital, and therefore challenging those who are already on top.
It also regulates stable markets providing them with reliable sales and profits.
A managed economy,
I don’t mind being wrong, but the banks and pharma taking us hostage is not communism. The billionaires getting richer is not communism. If shouting communism makes this end, then all good. But this is a fascistic financial coup (Ernst Wolff #Corona – The Collapse of the System)
You are not wrong.Fascism is an ideology of the left.We only see it of the right because of Soviet propaganda.Mussolini was an ex socialist,same as Oswald Moseley and the clue in the name.National Socialism.They are very close in outcomes as they are collectivism in action.In communist societies the state owns the means of production.In a fascist state there is close of alignment of business and state but the means of production are in private hands.
As noted here before, it depends which fascism you are talking about.
Franco was basically conservative and therefore of the right. Hitler was basically radical and therefore of the left, but also used many tropes of the right to attract support. Mussolini was somewhere in between, but probably closer to the left.
I’ve never really understood why it should matter much whether the thug running a vast soul-destroying enterprise protected by the state “owns” it by monetary or by political means.
I’d say that what they are attempting to install has elements of both Communism and Fascism.
Maybe we need a new word for it.
Technocracy and central planning are the key elements.
Coronatarianism
Look at Technocracy News and what Patrick Wood has to say.
Novelism – where only a machined intelligence (sic) writes the Script.
Seriously we are simply talking of deceit. Not deceitism. For every ism there is an anti-ism by which to persist the conceit.
Truth is free of deceit. Hence there is no truth in the world Model through which a manipulative mind plays out its script.
The technologising of insights and behaviours works at a deeper level than a scripted character can recognise – because the mind is framed or identified predicates, presumptions and beliefs that operate ‘automatically’ as a machine intelligence.
At some level we made such ‘thinking’ and operate out from it.
One could call it a masking ‘reality’ – but
WHO told you you were naked? (said the Lord).
Well that is a pointer to a mind of imaginative deceits that CAN freely align in the Creative – as the participation and Extension of a Great Music – or can freely identify in self-image, as a temporary bubble of private meanings – that set up a dissonance of fear by which to maintain the masking bubble as a sense of oppositional defence against the projection of one’s own reflection or feedback loop.
That humankind is largely a long way down multiple rabbit holes of self and Self evasion is the feedback of what THEY are doing – regardless the different meanings assigned in the formula.
Even if we allow that WE are doing, this still presumes a self exception for the one who would ‘tell it’.
Some of the best quotes come from those who see the truth that they chose not to align in – but would rather possess the insight than yield to the living Source of insight. No blame here. But there is a Pattern in operation that seems protective and yet sets us up for a Fall guy. Over and over again, like a clockwork fruit.
If insight is New Wine then the mind we took to be our own is the old wine bottles.
Until the old habit is put behind a new Choice, it runs behind an illusion of choices – all of which lead nowhere but hold the lure of ‘Getting’ for our self.
They are not communists.
But they do not like free enterprise either. That’s always a risk to these big operators, because they could easily lose their shirts to a better competitor.
Think about words like “corporatist” and “technocrat” and you will be nearer the mark. The aim is clearly a controlled society with a permanent ruling class, which is above any criticism.
This will set policies to “fight disease”, “fight climate change” etc, all of which will be very profitable to these elites. All this will be legitimised by pseudo-scientific justifications.
Ordinary people are just like a herd of livestock to them to be managed and controlled.
Nor were those who funded and enacted the Bolshevic revolution!
The Banking Corprate Cartel of its day.
The collectivisation of guilted grievance captures the movement for a true and better life to a top down, centrally directed sacrifice.
The technologism of the manipulation of the human mind – which includes it emotional feedback or result, is the dark art of conspiring to defraud another of the right so as to direct them to forsake their own for a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
A Communist Christmas for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAYITZRdJk
AwakenWithJP
We are all a little puzzled as to why the public are following the rules with such a high degree of compliance. I think there are two powerful
psychological factors at work which help the government in this respect.
Firstly although we supposedly live in a modern rational world, I think the vast majority of us are still very superstitious. We might not believe in ghosts and sprites, but I think statistics have taken on the role of “fate” in people’s lives. And people still very much live by the rule of “don’t tempt fate”. To doubt the statistics, as presented by the government, is to invite statistical retribution – for you or a family member to be harmed or killed by the virus. People are subconsciously very frightened of that I believe. And of course the government does everything in its power to encourage that fear.
Secondly, a lot of people quite reasonably ask themselves – as we do here – why would the government do all this unless it was strictly necessary? How could it be in the government’s interest to destroy the economy, the health service, sport and culture, family life and our education system? This is a reasonable question to ask and does not have a simple answer. So people tend to stick to the idea that the government must be doing it because it is strictly necessary.
So many feel the opposite. Brain washing is interesting, because it doesn’t happen to everyone, How do some stay suspicious and others so trusting?
Me neither, just interested in the psychology side of it.
But people already are finding that writing truthful histories can be career ending if they offend against PC sensibilities.
I think it is the difference between people who get told a “fact” and then ask “why” or “how”, before accepting, as opposed to those who just accept and recite. Probably a big correlation with social media use.
Partly upbringing I think. I was brought up in a family that frowned on virtue signalling and took some pleasure from mocking the pretensions of self-regarding fools.
Agreed.
Masks, for example, clearly have a talisman fundtion. A visible sign to ward off the evil spirits.
As for motives – so few people have an understanding of the basic financial/economic situation, and simply cannot think at the scale that is necessary in order to comprehend what is going on.
Yes. So many people just cannot comprehend what a number greater than a few hundred or smaller than a few hundredths actually means. Not surprising as there is no evolutionary advantage to that. So they take a cognitive shortcut (which does have an evolutionary advantage) and just approximate whether it is good or bad, taking accompanying propaganda hints into account.
This can be pinned on massive failure in primary maths education.
I think it’s really complicated to understand what is going on. I’m begining to think it is in a big part an inability for individuals to make up their own mind on anything by themselves. They need a consensus (a herd if you will) and until they get one they are quite literally deaf to any discussion that goes against the right-think. It may be a consequence of prolonged exposure and submission to PC fascism. I’ve noticed that if I try to talk one-on-one with someone they visibly switch off and don’t listen to a word – it’s a weird defense mechanism. In some it is almost like all congnitive activity has just been paused. They don’t even know they are doing it. However, if I confidently defy the collective in a group situation (work meeting for example) they will listen and begin to think and even show support. It’s like it is permitted to think about if the herd don’t oppose what I am saying. If you get one covidiot in the group who recites the propaganda then it is all over, but if it is a group of scared sheep then progress can be made. It’s all very, very odd.
Well in universities now they actively suppress contrarian viewpoints. So if even our most educated are afraid to engage in discussion that may challenge them what hope is there for the rest?
An important point about universities, the situation in science is similar to soviet Lysenkoism, where any questioning is suppressed. And scepticism is a dirty word
The Johnson regime has activated people’s primitive, superstitious side by deluging them with fear and hysteria.
With this conditioning, logic and reason take a back seat; people are easily controlled.
They have done a very good job at breaking the public down mentally. I will give them that.
Yes, I agree.
Hans Rosling. The fear instinct. Incredibly important for survival in primitive times, but now manipulated by the media to create hysteria.
Disbelief that the Gov’t may mean them harm
For God’s sake, can somebody on the committee ask the ‘scientists’ – what is the size of the sample from which they have derived their 70% enhanced transmissibility?
They did do more sooner, they built the Nightingale Hospitals.
More importantly, what was the actual method by which this figure was calculated? It’s not like they have conducted experiments on live humans in controlled settings. Have they identified transmission chains and deduced objectively that the ‘R’ number is higher for this chain? Or just done some high-level mathematical analysis of relative rates of one strain vs another over time, derived from the dodgy testing data, in conjunction with untold numbers of dodgy assumptions. I highly suspect its the latter, in which case like most so-called ‘science’ this year is more akin to the reading of tea leaves than what we used to know as science.
Last night I collected a takeaway from our favourite restaurant to try and give them some support during this madness.The owners daughter said they have not received a penny of help from the government since lockdown 1 in the spring and that help didn’t amount to much,this time around they will soon have been closed for eight weeks with absolutely no hope of being open probably for months yet.
I have overheard conversations and seen posts on other websites where members of the brainwashed mass claim that there is no problem with businesses being closed to ‘save lives’ because they are all being generously helped financially by the government so they should stop moaning.
It is frightening that so many people have been hypnotised into thinking everything is rosy and it is all going to be just fine and one day things will just carry on where we left off.
My business has received nothing from the Government. I am owner/director so no furlough. The only thing I have been offered is the bounce back loan. The travel industry is fucked. No specific sector support and I know of 3 suicides and countless mental health issues within my network of acquaintances
Bounce back loan. Do they want you to bounce back or be in their debt?
Sorry to hear, but I have to ask how many people do you know have died of or with the big CV?
Same. People think because I have a software business, I’m coining it. Not if my clients have had their businesses closed, you fuckwits! All my events and travel clients have been vaporised, among many other sectors and small business in general.
Even apparently intelligent members of the genpop have no idea how the economy functions. The complex relationships, supply chains and endless specialisations that deliver their goods and services.
Instead they just peck away at their keyboards (on Facebook probably), in their own little bubble, while everything else happens by magic.
Same in Northern Ireland. Many of the schemes have seen 50% applications rejected or even some of the support has simply never come. Just promises
The media is the biggest villain in all of this. But the media wouldn’t be able to achieve what it’s achieved unless most the population were not simpletons, which sadly they are
Crap needs an operating system on which to run.
“Where do you want to go to today?”
The media is looked at listened to and given function by its readers or sucklings.
Don’t let truth get in the way of a good story.
But if its a crap story – why not invite truth in, instead of participating in it?
The problem is that the overwhelming majority of people in this country are economically illiterate.
Go back to April when furlough started, I saw countless people telling those who were furious about not being able to work that “the Government it literally paying you to stay at home and watch Netflix, stop complaining about things”. Normally added something about NHS heroes as well, it’s a key part of any virtue signal.
People don’t understand where the Govt obtains money from, almost as if they though furlough was paid from some magic pot of money they found in Westminster.
The overwhelming stupidity of the British people is why we will never escape this hell.
People see one business closing, for example a pub.
They think, oh, shame, and all the people working there lost their job.
They forget about huge supply chain who also have a supply chain and employees.
….
“Gates was small for his age and was bullied as a child.”
From Bill Gates’ wikipedia entry.
Hail the World King!
I now pronounce you idiot and idiot. You may bump muzzles
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How are they surviving in NZ with NO masks?
Silly me, slap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG0L_r_KjYk
So many are so much like Elizabeth. In vain. She still ends up coughing…
The wedding night should be fun.
No mask no entry.
I wear a mask often, but not when I go to the shops or public transport
This is fucking retarded!
Twats
There seems to be a UK social media and MSM blackout on this, seems a very big deal to me. Could have a major impact on they level of State tyranny we face next year.
TRUMP ADDRESSES NATION ON HOW THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kQ3EYyyWtIeJ/
January is going to be a very interesting month!
Unless the Don is going to instigate a military coup he can blather and bluster as long as he likes
The CIA and FBI have obviously decided they want to move to a new technocratic global governance system. Looks like the Globalists have successfully destroyed old America and its values.
When people talk about Military Martial Law as being an option you know you are in banana republic / failed state territory.
Agreed. It means the media runs the world.
We witness Biden as America’s first Media Elect
No it means who owns the media runs the world.95% of America’s media is owned by just 6 corporations.
Yes. Exactly.. A handful of billionaires
I wonder if the billionaires answer to a higher force still? If you are told you or your family might have a deadly accident it helps to focus minds.
Whether people like Trump or not it is staggering that this can be completely censored by the controlled media. 1984 style stuff, I bet the majority of the UK public are completely unaware of this very significant speech happening.
Dear old Joe has just been given his first corona shot. That is obviously how they are going to finish him ready for Kamala’s presidency.
Has he though? Or has he received the version reserved for politicians, celebrities, journalists etc?
There are so many ways they can trick the masses using Hollywood fakery. Can’t believe people fall for the celebrity and politicians getting the vaccine scam.
The saline solution.
The Dems are gearing up to remove Biden pronto
Why do you think all the Hunter stories are now getting traction
President Kamaltoe within 6 months
It’s scandalous how Sopel, Kay, Bryant, and Zurcher have not reporting on this subject (election fraud and the response to it) since the election.W pay them huge amounts (nearly a quarter of a milllion in Sopel’s case) to report accurately, not to censor in the interests of the Democratic Party.
that trump speech is one of the most important things that has happened in living memory – and not a word on the bbc!
jesus h christ! that is dynamite – and it explains all the virus bollocks too
question is what happens now???
This looks like it is going to be very interesting. Trump probably has the support of the military so it is a very dangerous game. Possibilities seem to include:
– Trump remains as president either by invoking something constitutionally or with the threat of military backing.
– Trump backs down, but that basically means the end of meaningful democracy.
– Civil war
– Succession of some states from the union
– Assassination
5 dreadful choices – sums up the mess the world is in. A controlled demolition of America and the Western world as we know it – for a virus with a close to 100% survival rate for most age groups!
Trump probably has enough of the military (not all) and enough of the police (not all)
Unless he starts throwing his political opponents out of helicopters I can’t see how it will work IRL
I have asked my MP:- “Why the government is investing such a huge amount of money in unproven vaccinations, developed at unprecedented speed and with acknowledged risks, when there are already proven prophylactic and early treatments available ?” A response is awaited.
I just cannot believe that nobody is raising this issue. Here are two relevant links:-
On the Treatment of Covid-19 – Swiss Policy Research (swprs.org)
Ivermectin is effective for COVID-19: meta analysis of 24 studies (ivmmeta.com)
These sites provide numerous references to international, peer-reviewed studies demonstrating very high success rates for the treatments, which are relatively cheap to implement. They evidence huge reductions in severity and fatality rates.
Why is SAGE / the government not, at the very least, recommending people to take the easily available, non-prescription dietary supplements Zinc, and vitamins C and D, to boost immunity ? I am not aware that the health service is making use of Ivermectin, Quercetin and Bromhexine for prophylactic / early treatment – do any medical professionals here know ?
As far as I am concerned, based on my research, the government and health authorities have not done everything possible to fight this pandemic. How can the strategy of ‘lockdown restrictions’ be justified, with the associated detrimental effects on overall mental and physical health, and human rights, with the impossible aim of ‘defeating the virus’, when simple, and apparently highly effective treatments have been ignored ?
Is it not time to retire the ‘Mathematical Modellers’ and Psychologists from the SAGE group, and replace them with experienced medical scientists ? Then the government might be able to follow the relevant science, rather than the relentlessly negative group-think which delivers such destructive advice.
Pharma companies lobby ministers and MPs, some of whom hold shares in vaccine manufacturers (Sir Patrick Vaccine-Shares)
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lorry-drivers-scuffle-police-amid-081800865.html
I really don’t blame the lorry driver’s. I actually hope that they do start riots. The government are, as we all know, lying slimy bastards.
The ‘police scuffle’ usually means police attack. If the media happen to be present it suggest the police instigated trouble for the cameras to increase the sense of panic and fear in the country.
Of course they get angry.
Stuck miles away from facilities. Having to take a dump on the road verge.
I hope some charitable organisation has dished out some food and drink?
One thing this whole situation illustrates very well is how our institutions have become completely and utterly corrupted over time.
Politics is corrupt. Science is corrupt. The media is corrupt. The justice system is corrupt. The police force is corrupt.
If a single one of these institutions were legitimate, we wouldn’t be in this situation.
I agree completely, John Galt. It has laid bare the shortcomings of many UK institutions (the NHS, the BBC, universities, the civil service, the broadcast media, the professioriate, science and the medical profession). These shortcomings have been, above all, ethical. But the situation has also laid bare their intellectual and logistical weaknesses. Hence many institutions now face an enormous crisis of legitimacy.
Corrupt thanks to the “revolving door”, so incompetent managers resurface in a new department they can wreck. Nothing works as it should with such people in charge. The Augean Stable needs a clearout.
Sadly true
I wonder if they were ever not corrupt, and we have simply been the victims of a perfect storm of circumstances
Have there been other examples where institutions have shown courage in the face of wrongdoing, on a large scale?
You can add the Church (all denominations) to that list
Oh God, you most certainly can.
Collapse is the only way out of this mess unfortunately
The warning sign was the NHS stuffed full of Tonies cronies
Nobody needs that many managers – not even the Tories could remove them
My theory is that this is the culmination of what happens when you have a whole generation of centre left politics/politicians and the rot in the UK was cemented very firmly by Blair. He made not secret of putting leftwing and New Labour placemen in all of our institutions which have, over time, become increasingly woke and at the same time a generation of kids grew up under his tenure that were educated into snowflakes for whom any disagreement sends them crying. Therefore anything that “offends” them is shut down by the institutions.
The effect of this is a mollycodelled society and also of now young adults who can’t accept a different point of view, including that people in life also die, policitians who daren’t say exactly that and/or are so woke themselves (e.g. the unConservative party), a BBC that is full of the woke who can’t/won’t challenge and on and on.
It’s the infantilization of politics and anyone who challenges it is demonized (Brexit-voters, Trump’s Deplorables etc.) and shut out/down.
I’m prettey sure this applies across Europe too but I’m not knowledgeable enough other than to know/notice that any criticism of Merkel opening up Germany to refugees was slated (including the rise of the Alternativ fur Deutschland party) and ditto Matteo Salvini in Italy, Marine Le Pen in France. These countries seem to lag in their wokeness but I have no doubt it will come to them too. What they have got, though, is the same left-leaning politicians/globalists runnint their countries.
Yes, the idea that truth is the pre-eminent virtue has been supplanted by the belief that social justice (in a very specific sense of the term) is the pre-eminent virtue. Once truth doesn’t matter, that is a very big problem.
I would never normally take antacids, as our stomach needs to be very acidic to digest food, but some good doctors are saying that several elderly people very ill with covid have quickly recovered using Pepcid. They recommend 80mg Famotidine twice a day, for 5 days.
https://gut.bmj.com/content/69/9/1592
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/stomach-acid-heartburn-drugs-linked-with-covid-19-outcomes-68026
They would likely have greater success with glutamine…
Absolutely right.
The majority of people on antacids should rather improve their stomach acid to improve digestion – wobbly teeth in older people are due to a lack of nutrients as the body is unable to absorb calcium and other nutrients
If not sufficient stomach acid then the food putrifies in the body leading to symptoms that ‘looks like’ too much acid and result in many health issues.
2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar (with the mother) in half a glass of water before/with meals improve digestion and eliminate the ‘over acid’ symptoms
Yes – apple cider vinegar.
Red wine works for me too.
Apple cider works brilliantly
The ‘mother’ is not required IMO, since it’s the acetic acid that does the job
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352939320300166
oh look.. I am right.
The reason J P Sears is so convincing
https://medium.com/@CKava/the-problem-with-jp-sears-2c5d1b8664fd
He managed to get the anti vaax slur in
“Take back control!”
– how ironic that slogan sounds today when our lives are more controlled than they’ve ever been.
I’ve been thinking that too recently.
Great Minds and all that. (My mother was known as “Tiny” – but perhaps you’re a chap and six feet tall!?)
There is a circular reasoning to Robert West’s reasoning – the hysteria means that we have to calm it, but the only way to calm it is to feed the hysteria even more..
Tony Blair has the eyes of a man haunted by a million dead.
If you fancy a chuckle search for “charles lynton bow street” on Duckduckgo
allegedly of course
I don’t think Tony Blair has any conscience
Quite, I wonder if he keeps a man in the attic who has to take it all for Bliar. Must be a complete gibbering wreck by now!
I think the suppressed news that he was a communist is far more important .Nearly all the top new labour figures were ‘EX’ communists.The first thing they did on entering office was to destroy all the security service files on themselves.
Then there are all the communists who were tories….
These labels are palmed off on a mindless public to substitute for critical thought.
The devil made Blair and offer he could not refuse?
Is that not the nature of all coercion and deceit?
When you are chosen for a role, certain incidents conveniently seem to be forgotten.
I am staggered that so many seem to trust Blair still, especially on the left, he is loved at the BBC. He is far from the image the propagandists have created. As you say partly responsibly for hundreds of thousands possibly millions of innocent civilian deaths.
The Media give him a mouthpiece. (as they are but extensions of an intent to deceive). People who suckle the poison are unable to question much of what is fed because it frames their mind in fantasy and futility.
He and Starmer both have hard left extremist backgrounds.
Don’t be fooled by the smart suits (well in the case of Starmer a very silly looking bright blue one).
‘Zero Covid’ is the biggest lie in the world..
Might as well say ‘zero colds’ or ‘zero influenza’. Politicians know this can never be achieved.
The natural cycles of nature are being used to control us not any virus. This is fascism.
When you consider that the NHS has been AWOL for many people & that the number of ‘excess’ deaths at home is through the roof it’s a little surprising just how unshocking the actual all cause mortality is compared to other years.
It’s either resilience in the system or the delay before the deluge.
The graphs are being used to justify trashing our human rights. Obfuscation.
“On Tuesday, Britain recorded 691 Covid deaths – the second highest daily toll since last May….” Really? Just, really?
Just had this shite through my door. There are no words.
I’ve had similar shit offered in emails from a company that sells HGV supplies,it included some bloody device for decontaminating lorry cabs and the interior of buses,it was only £800 too.
Collect a bin bag of soiled, discarded masks and send back to whoever produces this crap.
This reminds me – a former nurse from Wellingborough got a tip off back in DECEMBER 2019 that a deadly virus was spreading from China, and subsequently made a mint from selling PPE.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/former-nurse-struck-it-big-with-1-8bn-contract-in-ppe-gold-rush-wnvlm866l
So how come the government didn’t prepare the NHS? They must have known too!
I just listened to a weird comment on BBC local radio accusing the Govt of sitting on this Mutant virus back in October and doing nothing. Like that lockdown in November never happened!
This mutant was known about in September. The Government saved the Ace card for later use
now it’s South Africa. Wouldn’t be surprised next time they’ll say it comes from Mars
Seen in Tunbridge Wells. The double mask. The reusable, worn over the disposable. I assume mask one gets rid of Covid and mask two gets rid of the Mutant Ninja virus.
Get rid of humans through slow suffocation
My husband told me about the guy in a shopping centre wearing two, he had the cloth on first and the blue paper one on top and this was before the scary mutant virus was announced.
I reject the idea that this totalitarian rule is being enforced due to bad advice – it’s ludicrous to think we have fast and increasingly lose our freedoms due to incompetence.
The incompetence conspiracy theory was already blown out of the water by the middle of last April. Undoubtedly the UK government is a major actor in the globalist agenda to rid the world of the great bulk of its human inhabitants. It’s the only theory that holds water and the depopulation will be brought about by the unlicensed and liability free Covid-19 vaccines.
Apparently the planetary conjunction the other night means we are now in the Age of Aquarius, hopefully good news then:
Jupiter Conjunct Saturn December 21st, 2020 – The Age Of AquariusThe next “Age of Aquarius” moment is December 21st, 2020, when Jupiter and Saturn meet for the first time in millennials, at 0° Aquarius.
What are the chances to have the 2 slowest moving visible planets of our solar system meeting exactly in the 1st degree of Aquarius?
The Jupiter-Saturn conjunction on December 21st, 2020 may well be that final ‘cosmic push’ that will mark the official beginning of the Age of Aquarius.
Change is around the corner and will come sooner than we expect. Humanity’s next chapter is currently being written, right in front of our eyes.
Age of Aquarius (2000-4000) As long as the ego is separate from the soul, we won’t have freedom and progress (Aquarius’ higher manifestation), but instead will have division and will continue to attempt to use machines (weapons, robots, or the internet) to justify one side of the story – either “the ego” or “the soul”.
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However, sooner or later, at the end of this ‘cosmic battle’, when we’ll reconcile the YING and the YANG, and we will eventually find a “new Renaissance” – or the triumph of Aquarius’ highest values: humanitarianism, knowledge, reason, innovation, and people who work towards a greater goal.
As we are shifting from the Age of Pisces into the Age of Aquarius, we will learn that each individual is important – not as an amorphous mass easy to maneuver (Age of Pisces).
Every single one of us is born for a reason, and we all can bring our own contribution to the development of society. Every single one of us can make the world a better place.
Aquarius is the opposite sign from Leo. Leo is what makes us unique. Leo is the creator, the leader. Aquarius takes Leo’s unique qualities to the “next level” putting them into a higher context.
“Me” is put into the use of “We” – so that we can create something much greater than the sum of individual efforts. But of course, to get to “We”, we need to acknowledge each person’s unique qualities.
In Greek mythology, Aquarius is Prometheus, the Titan God that stole fire from the Gods and gave it to humans. The fire is, of course, a symbol for the light of knowledge, but also, quite literally, Aquarius is a symbol for electricity and other types of renewable energy.
During this new Age, we can expect new types of energies to be discovered. Other likely developments are artificial intelligence, space travel, and connections with other forms of life.
Aquarius is the most global sign of the zodiac – it rules networks and communities based on a mutual vision. In the next 2000 years, there’s no more place for top-down, hierarchical cultures or extreme political doctrines.
Aquarius is a democratic, egalitarian sign; the types of top-down systems that have dominated our society in the last millennia will simply cease to work.
The Age of Aquarius will come with a completely different “operating system” – something we haven’t seen yet… at least in the last 26.000 years.
We have, of course, started to witness the influence of the Age of Aquarius already since the late 18th century, with the discovery of Uranus (Aquarius’ modern ruler) which also coincided with the discovery of electricity.
These Aquarian influences have since then intensified, especially in the last 50 years.
Finally,I’ve been waiting since the early 1970s.
Yeah and it’s going to take maybe 50 years or so to start to manifest
Well seeing as the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction was at 0 Aquarius in the Tropical zodiac (seasonally based, and out of alignment with the constellations) and the ‘Age of Aquarius’ (a Theosophical society invention, which should tell you all you need to know) is the apparent precession of the Spring Equinox into the constellation of Aquarius, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Good point. The UN manifesto draws heavily on the works of Bailey and Blavatsky.
Sounds a bit like a Karl Schwab speech. A human can no more separate their ego from their soul than they can separate their living body from their soul. We’re somewhere between a bonobo and a chimp. It’s silly to expect us to behave like demigods. The only way this vision will be achieved is through transhumanism, the robotisation of human beings, under the direction of a tiny elite.
Or maybe it means Tier 5
Sounds exactly like the manifesto of the UN which is a New Age manifesto with its roots in the works of Bailey and Blavatsky.
That is a direct contradiction to biblical truth. As its very likely that the people coordinating the current shit show are also movers and shakers in the UN and its subsidiaries I think we can already begin to see the fruits of this ‘new age’.
The ‘we’ not ‘me’ also sounds a familiar tenet with its roots in communism or as its currently being re-badged communitarianism. The green agenda is just one of the current drivers towards this new normal.
The ego of self-image set in mask, is a construct set against nakedness to truth
Or more simply you are never what you think.
The idea of an awakening will become weaponised and marketised – by the ego of possession and control.
But awakening is the undoing of the mask to the revealing of the devices that run beneath its appearances.
And so the craziness and ghastly parody of life is coming up to be released.
Therefore it is not the beginning of a process of overcoming or eradicating ‘ego’ but the timing for the harvest of all that is true to a conscious alignment in truth rather than a broken or divided will or love made captive to hate.
If it be your will.
The golden rule gives or serves as it would in truth receive. This is not sacrificial or coercive. To recognise our self in others is not sacrificial or coercive.
But to seek to make a system of enforcement for masking in images and behaviours of ‘virtue’ is sacrificial and coercive.
Jesus said – they know not what they do.
We call it cognitive dissonance.
The thinking possesses the minds of the thinker to run a bot-net of automata.
Perhaps indeed the Script is already written and our freedom is to witness to truth … or self-illusion.
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We are going to lock you down, take away your human rights and destroy the economy until we can stop the wind and control the rain
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Delusional and arrogant, feel free to add more adjectives.
That’s the government I assume, not Ben?
OF COURSE.
Deranged and sociopathic
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9080597/Cloth-masks-NOT-stop-spread-COVID-19-without-social-distancing.html Masks, more masks, vaccinations, why do this when they want depopulation, they are evil.
But you don’t wear a mask to protect yourself, but others.
FUCK the cattle… The HERD OF MODERN MORON SLAVES, deserves to be treated like this!
At this point reality is very SIMPLE: It’s either KILL or be culled.
Until several Jedburgh’s actions aren’t executed nothing will change except the things the SRF & Billionaires via jesters want to CHANGE!
Why do the big names in retail not make their voices heard?
Who are the owners of the “big names”?
or who pulls the strings in terms of credit status.
There must be insider knowledge or fear that inhibits or censors or buys off critical opposition.
The nature of regulatory penalty and incitement to hate from a media driven mob can be inhibiting.
Proof that political dissent against the government is not tolerated in Britain.
I was in London on Saturday. As I walked up Regent Street there was a large demonstration against the Indian’s government policies (as I understood it, their policies would harm farmers). There were no police in attendance.
Less than two hours later I returned down Regent Street and now there was the demonstration against the U.K. government’s Covid policies. This time there was a massive police presence and the police were seizing individual protesters as they walked, throwing them to the ground and violently hand-cuffing them. The brutality of the police was shocking.
This clearly shows that political dissent against the government is no longer tolerated in Britain: a protect giants the Indian government is permitted but one against the British government – in exactly the same place and the same day – is violently suppressed.
“Health officials have blamed the pre-Tier 4 exodus for the spread…”
Blaming and threatening the public seems to be standard operating procedure for the British state these days.
Isn’t it nice to know these civil “servants” are working so hard on our behalf.
It’s surely too early for that – the increase in ‘cases’ pre-dates the movement of people ahead of Christmas.
Quite – it was only 4 days ago!
While they themselves are working from home in their country mansions or with their mums and dads.
With cleaners and nannies still being allowed to visit..
They’re not health officials – they’re fascists
I would sure like to see the evidence for that as this is not a highly contagious virus neither is its variant.
And what caused the exodus?
FFS.
More people probably left the area than would have done had the govt left us all alone for Xmas as promised.
It’s about time the ridiculous name ”SAGE” was dropped. Besides sounding more like something out of a James Bond novel (in other words, patronising the plebs) the final ‘E’ is now redundant, as was clearly shown by MPs fleeing their posts as soon as they could.
A ”pandemic” and a ”national emergency”? Tripe.
STAGE?
S(T)AGE(D)
Interesting that my German regional news station has switched off it’s comment section since the beginning of the week.
It was more critical the last few days.
Interesting how much of google went down the other week globally.. gmail etc. Everything except the google search function. At some poiint we may be isolated in the digital and analog realms.
Use Tor. As used by governments worldwide.
Can you remind me which Tor nodes were set up by the CIA?
I cant say whether anything is actually private or secure, or whether such solutions are honey traps, but Tolkien was serious in the prophetic depiction of a Technos that could not be defeated but could be relinquished.
Where is the balance point for where tools serve Man – or Humanity – and where the Man becomes a tool of his own makings?
It isn’t anti tech, but embracing what it is to be human.
Fear and hatred of inner conflict seeks magical ‘solutions’ that become the displacement map for those same fears and hates – but set in the frame of the ‘solution’. So presumed medical solutions for underlying fears and conflicts – frame us in an insane and self destructive attempt to fit Life into the Final Solution…
Yes.. can’t have the natives getting critical!
Well, they are certainly going for it now aren’t they. Its sh1t or bust I think.
The tiny man Macron across the channel is certainly making the most of it too. Bill #3714.. Threatening the unvaccinated with refusal on public transport, people to be taken off the streets and quarantined if suspected of being a carrier. It would also permit the seizing of a person’s goods, as well as forced vaccination.
https://www.europereloaded.com/health-dictatorship-french-citizens-who-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-may-be-banned-from-public-transport-under-green-passport-plan/
I wonder how they are going to enforce that.
Same with the proposed measures in Austria. But I believe Austria , so far, only want it during January, but of course it is a push to get people to agree to be vaccinated.
I don’t know David.. I think at the moment they are signalling intentions so as to scare the French into vaccine compliance. 61% of French people have said they’re not taking it, so I should imagine, knowing the thug Macron, that things will get increasingly threatening and nasty..
Stockpile your paving srones now.Man the barricades. Do you hear the people sing?
Just imagine the level of tyranny they would impose for a virus which didn’t have an average death age of 80 plus years and that most people don’t realise they even have. All about creating a population of completely compliant slave.
Is Macron on a ventilator fighting for his life following his positive test or is he yet another person who is perfectly healthy?
Alas, he seems healthy
Possibly not : after all, mens sana in corpore sano!
The Devil looks after his own.
Good point Darryl.. tyranny on steroids! As for Macron, he’s as healthy as he was before corona. Just more kabuki theatre.
On a personal note, my house/home is in France and I’m now seriously concerned if I am going to be able to get back in the new year. Especially with the news that Brittany Ferries is looking increasingly shaky..
How long is France banning entry for? Sweden won’t let in non-citizens till 21st January…
He’ll have access to HCQ and all the other treatments that they want to deny to the plebs..
Elites have HCQ and other medicines, the masses have to have experimental vaccines and ventilators.
Hmm, they have (despite Bill Gates) failed with forced sterilisation to reduce the human population, but maybe the vaccine will achieve this by other means!
I suggest a workaround for Health Passports on public transport – hitchhiking, car sharing, car pools, and the like. If the government chooses to discriminate against its citizens, we simply take matters into our own hands.
And speakeasies, underground cinemas, illegal raves etc – these will bloom, run for and by those without health passports. The government cannot stop us having a social life. Look what happened in Prohibition in 20s America. Exactly, a hundred years alter, the same thing will rise again.
Interesting that speakeasies now will not be about booze – that’s freely available – but about conversation and human interaction; those are the things that are being withheld. You’ll have a pint, sure, but you will go there to ‘speak easy’.
Don’t forget underground churches, which have already started.
I was impromptu on Bittel TV on YT, Dlive yesterday, giving a brief review of the situation in Britain.
Thanks to this site I have the information.
It was an impromptu zoom call.
Much fun. https://youtu.be/FckKyJzdIX8 starts at 42 minutes
Do Mask Mandates Work? New Analysis Suggests They Don’t
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/do-mask-mandates-work-new-analysis-suggests-they-dont
Off-Guardian warned at the very beginning of this doomsday show, that we were being subjected to such an oceanic surge of media terror that it was impossible to even hope for any rational discussion i.e. that we were facing war propaganda. It has hardly let up and is now accelerating.
From the actual Guardian:
“Exclusive England’s hospitals set to treat more Covid patients on Christmas Day than ever before”
(Unintentionally funny ambiguity there. Is that more Christmas Day Covid patients than ever before?)
“Guardian analysis will add to concerns about ability of NHS to cope with surge in cases over winter”
(Magical premonition there!)
“More of England ‘could move into tier 4 from Boxing Day”
Hmm.. no chance of leaving us along for one fucking day at Christmas then!
And just on cue:
“Live Coronavirus: new variant already in ‘great majority if not all’ European countries, says expert”
“Live” coronavirus? Is it going on tour then?
And just to keep up the celeb front:
“The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is showing signs of improvement after testing positive for Covid-19 last week, his office said. Macron, 43, is in quarantine …”
Then there’s the headline which really ought to be a huge giveaway:
“Vaccine Delay facing poor countries ‘will leave Europe vulnerable for years’”
For years! They somehow know this now!
And since I have to arbitrarily cut off this interminable cov-coverage:
“Mexico Covid fatalities soar as president condemned for inaction”
Inaction is not an option! You must act now! Vax vax vax!
Yeah, its an onslaught alright. Globally Lock-stepped..
I’ve got family in Mexico. That’s not the case at all.
My 22 year old daughter has received an email telling her that she should be prepared to come for a covid vaccine in the near future- what happened to the ‘no one under 50’ pronouncement? She says most people her age online are up for getting it and kind of laugh about the conspiracy theories- I feel so concerned because it is apparently about to target young adults who have been accused of being ‘the super spreaders’ but if there are really side-effects relating to infertility this is the group that would be the most susceptible.. is this population control?
Yes I think it is
There is plenty of evidence of Gates being linked to sterilising vaccines before and you only have to watch his videos to see how he thinks regarding population control – it’s scary. ANH’s video regarding the vaccines is very balanced and ask good questions, so I am recommending people watch this and then make up their own mind.
I remember seeing a video ages ago, purporting to have info from a Pfizer whistleblower saying that the vaccine sterilising effect would show up first after 7 years when there would be a massive drop in fertility, with the time delay making it difficult to prove the link.. The Pfizer documents regarding the vaccine seem to suggest that there IS a risk; they are just being careful in how they are phrasing the issue.
“Vaccine Delay facing poor countries ‘will leave Europe vulnerable for years’”
For years! They somehow know this now!
George, this is journalistic spiel, not insider knowledge.
Yes but isn’t it odd how all this (purely random?) journalistic spiel is all in one direction? It isn’t a question of “what they know” but of the mindset they are trying to create.
My cousin has just come round to drop of Christmas pressies, luckily I saw her coming and unfortunately she was wearing a huge yellow FN. These people are hard-core covidians, her hubby wears a full rubber gas mask when he goes to see his mum.
I just cannot talk to them. I am in such a state, I am shaking. We are hiding upstairs trying not to make any noise and pretending not to be in and I have put the door bell under the pillows in our bed upstairs so if she rings the bell she won’t hear it ring.
This is fucking poison.
Yes – for me there will be NO forgiveness of sheeple’s failure to use their brains: that is what SHOULD make us humans special. The sheeple should be turned into mutton!
Look, I alienated pretty much all our family and friends because I’m a monster and said : no mask while inside my house, or gloves etc
That was enough for my wife entire family to tell me that they cannot risk their health and my own parents telling me that they will not visit either and that I can’t see my niece..
So , you draw the line and see where people stand. No more compromise, no more pandering to group think, No surrender!
They have chosen their own death (staying safe) but are too stupid to understand. There’s a gulf between being physically alive and living one’s life. It’s maddeningly hypocritical to think that some of these frightened sheep took a greater risk travelling in a car
“A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once”
You are an ex soldier, Thomas, and worldly wise, so I think you will understand this philosophy: Fuck ’em.
That is both courageous and tragic, but do you think it matters to Boris?
I really don’t care. I have no ability to affect anybody’s live but my own and I for one will not surrender myself or my family to this madness. My home is my castle and nobody in the government or anywhere else has any mandate to tell me how to behave , who to have over for dinner or If I want to celebrate a holiday. My wife sometimes think it’s my PTSD kicking in but I can assure you I have not been this clear and focused since I was in combat.
So sorry to read your families are not prepared to put aside their beliefs for at least your daughter.
I agree entirely. We need to set out our red lines and if others don’t like them, tough. This is particularly true in your own fucking home. The reason we’re in this shitshow is because not enough people (including those in some governments) would stand up to the hysteria. I’ve had it and don’t care what other people think. I won’t play along with the charade.
I hesitate to advise people on family matters – it’s none of my business and outsiders never know the ins and outs of any family situation. But I do wonder, based on your description, if it wouldn’t be better just to have it out openly with them once and for all? Perhaps not face to face but remotely, if you prefer that.
Perhaps set out your position calmly and clearly – you regard the current panic as so destructive that you would prefer not to associate with supporters of mask wearing and lockdown until the panic is over.
Be strong and remember the Government are wanting to destroy our spirits. We must and will rise above them.
You could express yourself and calmly state that you find her Covid garb distressing since you don’t subscribe to the prevailing narrative. I would
If she becomes upset, then she will likely be less upset than yourself
Don’t forget to tell the husband that he has effectively been seeing his mum without any kind of mask at all because standard gas masks have no filtration on the out-breath and so his mum has been breathing full-fat plague straight from his lungs.
Just think, if you’d posted something informative or interesting, people might have even appreciated your 2nd post!
Did we know about this explosion at the SCI Pharmtech factory?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkcaeaD45MY
Apparently they manufacture HCQ.
Bill Gates seen running away from the scene
The arsonist was likely paid by BG or someone he funds..
Off-topic but how easy (or not) is it to manufacture HCQ? Maybe we should start…
You mean this one. Of course the Covid Zealots will just say co-incidence, nothing more.
https://www.sproutwired.com/explosion-sets-fire-to-the-worlds-second-largest-hydroxychloroquine-raw-material-factory-political-connections/
Yeah. Like Pharma factories explode every day
Just looked outside, can see the neighbours are home – their windows are all fully opened. They are a couple in their 30s and it is currently 3°C, raining and pretty windy. Maybe they would be more comfortable in a nice cave somewhere to reflect their apparent evolutionary status.
Reverse the car up, stick a tube on the exhaust and the other end through the window. Give the engine a good rev. I’ve always found it clears all household germs very effectively.. ;-0
Haha superb
If Whitty said that in a press conference, we probably wouldn’t need the vaccine, and we most definitely wouldn’t have lettuce panic buying in the shops.
Amazing, isn’t it? They’ve swallowed the line about ”ventilation” yet they swan around outside in the good fresh air with their muzzles on, breathing their own CO2 and recycled nasties.
Gawd, yes, the mind can still boggle!
Here we go again Scientists drooling with pleasure at Lockdown 3 after Boxing Day. Johnson and his cabal must be thoroughly enjoying tanking everyone’s Christmas and New Year and the further destruction of the economy, jobs, the stock exchange and Sterling. The’re revelling in it.
Anyone tried lurking outside an MP’s home to see if there’s much coming and going?
Of course they are.
This is what the Gaia cultists want.
Does anybody know where I can get a cheapish helmet, like the ones knights wore or divers helmet etc. Something even more stupid than a FN that I could wear to “comply” with face covering “regulations”. I have my lepers bell (exemption badge) but I think it’s time to raise the stupidity stakes.
goggles and snorkel (attached)
A plague doctor’s mask is quite attractive. Or punch a hole in one of those blue nappy things to allow your nose freedom of movement.
It’s the using of these muzzles as fashion accessories that is really obscene. It shows how the dimwits are embracing the idea completely.
At the start Someone in Norfolk was walking the streets wearing one.He was given a talking to by the police for spreading alarm.
The irony.
A burqah or a niqab? Maybe you can get a blue one decked out with a ring of yellow EU stars to make sure everyone gets the point.
You want one of these, they look very cool and scary, they will really worry all those with Coviditus out in the mean streets of the UK.
Klaatu Barrada Nikto…
Try this. Spotted in my local Lidl.
Love it
This has got everything, Dadaist performance, humour ,imagination, sceptical protest yet still fulfils its ‘purpose’
celticwebmerchant.com lots of helmets plague masks etc. Not cheap but worth a look.
This one would count as “face covering” I think.
There’s a big selection at that site (The Knight Shop) and my experience is they do excellent delivery.
Yahoo still keeping up the scaremongering narrative & it’s conveniently about the “new strain”
Plus…it also contains z list “celebrities”
Who have magically caught it just in time for Xmas…
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/will-young-covid-christmas-101944675.html
Sorry, I haven’t read all 668 comments (as I write) so this may have been pointed out earlier, but I see that eminent virologist, biologist, epidemiologist and immunologist Tony Bliar is has been given air time on the BBC to tell the world of his his ‘plan’ for innoculating the world. This cadaverous has-been should be put back in his coffin.
Couldn’t have put it better.
It may well be a good thing. Bliar is well known as being just that.. a LIAR!
Certainly is as his intervention on Brexit showed
I think he’s invested in the tech project ‘ID 2020’, which is digital ID of the human being. The vaccines are a crucial component.
Would be ironic if George Galloway was forced to subscribe to the ID 2020 technology in the future
Every time he shows his face I just picture he has briefly surfaced for air from one of his cottaging expeditions
TAG & CULL…
Brilliant analysis from the WEF (er, what business is it of theirs anyway) – last time I noticed the very large majority of people do have teeth. What do they propose – mass dentistry?
I wouldn’t rule it out
Arms are very hazardous when you put your mind to it.
Anything to engage emotional reaction with any part of the narrative feeds the narrative.
Don’t feed the troll is lost to the delight taken in judging trolls.
But leave the baited hook untaken doesn’t have to posit something to rail against and therefore invite in.
Not sure if this has been posted already, but Neil Mccoy Ward has posted a new video, very informative with many parallels to today and our likely future. This is the 1st video of 3 and deals with housing, food, unemployment and dance marathons.
Does this 90 year old diary predict the next depression?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdhEnzZ6EuM
some interesting comments too.
The world entered the Great Depression on a Gold Standard.
This time, there is no limit on the ability of the Central Banks to print.
The Debt-Berg is also much bigger now than it was then.
All of this means that we are headed for hyperinflation this time, rather than the grinding deflation of the 1930s.
It will still feel like a depression though for most people,
The greater the role we acord to market forces though, and the smaller the role we accord to central planning, the quicker we shall recover.
Why don’t they just come out and say that simply being alive is hazardous to one’s health?
This is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
If they’re so terrified of being alive why can’t they just off themselves and leave the rest of us in peace?
I know your comment is more wit but fear and hate of life is underneath much of what passes off as real.
Some under such a conviction can project and divert the hate away from a masking sense of control that displaces toxic consequence onto others.
“Now see what you made me do!”
Others become magnets or targets for the hate of others on top of their own – and often end their lives to escape pain.
“Now see what you have made of me!”
Hate and blame are synonyms.
If we release it we are released.
But all that we seek to lay on everyone else has some part of our own mind – that will never leave you – for it contains a denied facet of our wholeness.
The mortal condition is life set in fear of pain of loss even to death.
Recoil against fear sets up the attempt to get rid of it.
This leads to the Great Unconsciousness – which works contra to life as a sense of limitation and overriding will.. Also known as the Adversary or indeed the ‘ego’. Its hate aspect works a cynical scorn that takes delight in undermining, breaking and destroying. You can notice this ‘voice’ in your own mind as that of self-hating.
Peace is part of wholeness of being, but the unconsciousness of life made normal, sets a narrative illusion of peace that is really a restless pattern of shifting evasions, that become more and more unwieldy until something breaks in to violate a peace could only seem to be, as the result of exclusion that we had become wilfully unaware of.
It was the excluded fairy that set the spell of Sleep.
But the mistaken attempt to reverse this is the forced inclusion – as if you must love what you hate and so make the form of love an act of coercion and denial.
Love is the capacity to be with what is and recognise truth here.
The recognition restores the peace.
Yeah, it could aeresolise the droplets. You know, like masks? See Kevin Mckernans twitter for that explanation
95.79% of the deaths listed had pre-existing medical conditions. This is even above the 94% the USA announced.
Source – https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Spreadsheet – “COVID 19 total announced deaths 17 December 2020 – weekly file”
Accurate to 16th Dec too – so the new mutant has not caused a huge rise in deaths since September..
A few weeks ago, I texted a family member that our reaction to this virus is staggering given that all but 1700 people without pre-existing conditions had died.
Next thing I knew, she’d taken to her twitter mob and all the usual FBPE suspects were calling me a Nazi who was promoting eugenics, was uncaring, callous etc. and basically advocating killing people.
Their ignorance is as staggering as their lack of curiosity/understanding as to what “pre-existing conditions” really means i.e. serious underlying and often terminal conditions. One woman said I was advocating her death because she has arthritis. What I’d actually intended was to show them reality for most healthy people i.e. go out and live your life because the risk to most people is miniscule.
The battle we have is massive becuase these types simply cannot and/or will not look at facts because their “feelings” get in the way and my belief as to why is per my response to your earlier post about the infiltration of UK institutions.
Typo in the above: I meant that all but 1700 people who died had severe pre-exising conditions.
Yeah, logic does not work with these people. I advocated a couple of months ago that instead we should aim at the emotional aspect of things. I put together a list of some relevant links:
https://pastebin.com/4h905TPU
Whether this would work with the people you described? Probably not, haha, but it’s another angle at least.
I’m absolutely fascinated by the psychology behind all of this. Why do we see through it but others just cannot? The facts are the same for us all. It’s not like anything is being held back or hidden. I really need to find a book explaining how and why people differ regarding their susceptibility to propaganda.
I’ve been trying to understand it too and I’ve decided that a huge part of it is about your personaliy and whether you:
look at facts (or go with feelings)
are in business or in the public sector (sometimes down to feelings also)
are a risk taker
are outgoing or insular
your political persuasion (again, often about being in the public sector)
your exposure to earning your keep/staying afloat/the commercial world i.e. your business acument or, wether, per the public sector, the money just keeps coming.
To my mind, this has morphed into a (broadly) public vs private sector argument because the vast majority of public sector workers are cossetted and have no idea about really and properly earning a living or the real world i.e. if the customer isn’t happy, they go elsewhere and if it happens enough, you go bust.
That doesn’t happen for them AT ALL.
BUT they are simultaneously able to say that they’re more caring because they can cite the short-term/immediate facts of current deaths wherease longer term facts like those for cancer etc. are projections and, hey, they that’s another fight for them another day.
I know there are some in the public sector on here and I’m not saying it’s all of them by any means. As I say, I think it’s a mix of all that goes to making one’s personality.
Sceptic since April, left out of all forms of government support, have had to open and close my business throughout the lockdowns.
I have a logical brain, and look at facts and evidence, not hearsay. I also have empathy for my fellow human. I dont believe everything I am told by anyone, I always fact check, I have a very good bull**** radar. I can spot a liar a mile off, when others fall for their lies.
I think many people are just gullible and easily manipulated, cant think for themselves, and lack empathy, it will only hit them when they are affected financially/personally, we on here are a different breed from them.
For the same reasons some people are susceptible to religious belief and others are not.
I suspect in goes back to childhood. I never really liked being at school after junior school and disliked my contemporaries. I never went away with the school either it was bad enough going in the day! I always felt outside the herd and was always repelled by groupthink and conventional wisdom.
Without disagreeing with any of the points raised in your other comment about contribution of the political shift in society, there was a good discussion early on on this site of some of the problems in reasoning with these people:
The Hyper-Rationality of Crowds: COVID-19 and the Cult of Anxiety
Good afternoon Sceptic in Oxford,
Im sorry to hear about this.
Sadly it reinforces the impression that my wife has of a number of her work colleagues.
Completely emotionally driven people without any ability to use rationality or logic. They seem terrified but actually would probably struggle to sum up if asked, just why they are so fearful.
She said that, in her opinion these particular people have other issues pre-dating all of this, such as lack of confidence, anxiety, body image etc… in other words this situation has given them an outlet for their problems which is actively encouraged.
Obviously the above is only anecdotal, but seems fairly plausible.
Best regards
Simon
I certainly know of another family member who has been tipped over the edge with this. She’s mid-40s and in good health but now rarely leaves the house. My amateur psychologist’s assessment is that she’s always wanted a career but has been a mum and housewife for 13 years now and although she loves her kids and husband, is unfulfilled, maybe feels a failure (I don’t know) and this has tipped her over.
I had the same issue with my in laws when I pointed out that people under the age of 70 and in reasonable health were at no risk and therefore should be allowed to go about their lives as normal with focused protection of the vulnerable they accused me of not caring if older people died!
Isn’t being over 80 a pre-existing condition in itself? I don’t mean to be glib, but I don’t know anyone over 80 who doesn’t have some health issue or isn’t on some kind of medication. Just the less robust immune system of an elderly person is a pre-existing condition of sorts, or can at least explain why a virus could cause death where it wouldn’t in a much younger person.
Yes, definitely. Like you say, the immune system gets worse with age, which was an accepted part of life until this year!
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2019.02247/full
Great stats. We should all share these as widely as possible. The shocking truth is though, that even that 4% number is overstated. The reason being that the sheer numbers of people being tested will mean that many of them who may have died in a motorbike accident or falling off a tall building or similar, If they happen to have had a positive Covid test three weeks ago, they will be registered as a Covid death. In the 0-19 age group I did read that the only deaths without a serious pre-existing condition were infants dying at or shortly after birth who had tested positive for Covid. This was never the cause of death though. This is why at the end of the day, no matter what the spin, it will be very hard for them to show any material excess mortality over the entire period of the ‘pandemic’ due to Covid. Covid just does not kill people who are likely to live much longer in enough numbers to do that. Over a short period, if you seed it into Care Homes like our Government, and many others did, yes .you will see a big spike, but once that is stopped. mortality rates quickly revert to normal levels.
Apologies if you’ve seen the below which is a pick and mix I collated 29 Nov, the idea being even the “feeling” types might start to see this will impact on them too – it’s just a matter of time.
Here’s what lockdown has achieved:
· 25 million GP appointments lost (source: Care Quality Commission)
· 3 million people backlog for cancer screening (source: Cancer Research UK)
· 350,000 patients with suspected cancer haven’t been referred (source: Cancer Research UK)
· 986,000 women not screened for breast cancer (source: Breast Cancer Now)
· Referrals for urological cancers (incl prostate cancer) halved – an estimated 27,000 fewer sent for testing (source: Prostate Cancer UK)
· 1 million bowel cancer screening invitations not sent in first 3 months of lockdown, equating to estimated 1,350 cases of undiagnosed bowel cancer (source: Bowel Cancer UK.)
· 139,545 patients waiting > 1 year for treatment (source: NHS England)
· March- May >50,000 children in England had surgery from all surgical specialties postponed (source: Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health)
· MD and cataracts have gone untreated leaving patients at risk of sight loss
· Waiting lists in general for the NHS are at an all-time high
Sooner or later, everyone, will be impacted by these backlogs, whether its them, their husband, wife, mother, father, sister, brother, boyfriend, girlfriend, uncle, aunt, child or grandchild who needs treatment and joins the back of these queues.
Then there’s societal/other health problems:
· 1 in 9 mental health patients have been waiting 6 months for help (source: Royal College of Psychiatrists)
· Number of people drinking at ‘high risk levels’ doubled since February – now 8.5 million (source: Royal College of Psychiatrists)
· Just over 1 in 10 of over 70,000 surveyed had suicidal thoughts or thoughts of self-harm during the first week of lockdown (source: Samaritans)
· 7% increase in domestic abuse-related recorded crime during March to June vs the same period in 2019 and 18% increase vs 2018 (source: ONS)
· 72% of pub & hospitality businesses expect to become unviable and close in 2021 (source: British Beer & Pub Association, British Institute of Innkeeping and UK Hospitality)
· Redundancies to a record high of 314,000 in the three months to September 2020 (source: ONS)
· Since March 2020, the number of payroll employees has fallen by 782,000 (source: ONS)
· Borrowing hit £22.3bn in October 2020, the highest October figure since monthly records began (source: ONS)
· UK national debt at record high >£2 trillion for first time ever (source: ONS)
· Record number of shop closures: 6000 chain shop outlets closed in first half of 2020 compared with 3500 in same period 2019 (source: Local Data Company and PwC UK)
· Number of graduate jobs dropped 12% in 2020 with employers anticipating further decline in 2021 (source: Institute of Student Employers (ISE).
· Employers reduce internships and placements 29% and 25% respectively in 2020, the largest drop since 2010 (source: ISE)
· Charity sector faces £10bn funding shortfall and 60,000 job losses (source: FT)
· £160m loss of income this year for Cancer Research UK (source: Cancer Research UK)
But if it saves one life……..
How can anyone support this madness?
Just back from a last minute trip into Truro. Still in Tier ! so everything is open (excluding the businesses which have already expired due to lockdowns), but it was more like a wet Sunday in January than the day before Christmas Eve. In HMV there were three other customers (last Christmas it was a 10 minute queue for the tills), and in Waterstones the customers were outnumbered by the staff. Also noted quite a lot of ‘Sale’ posters in shop windows – if we do go full lockdown again I don’t expect all of the smaller local businesses will survive. On street mask compliance at about 10-15%, but only one other maskless in a shop. All in all not a very seasonal experience, who knows when I shall venture into town again..
Was hoping Kernow would be a bulwark to this nonsense
Sad
I think it’s precisely because we’re still Tier 1 – there has to be extra compliance to make sure we don’t slip – be interesting to see what happens when we (inevitably) get downgraded
10-15% in public is less than many places.
Have just been out in Penzance shops and was quite surprised to see so many people in shops without muzzles ,Iceland had about 6 ,pound streacher 3 and a couple in the coop also noticing more people in the street wearing lanyards as they go from shop to shop . So before you write cornwall off here’s a bit more news ,the other week people came together in Penzance and decorated the christmas tree as the council had refused ,they also gave out presents to kids ,mince pies and sang songs .No one complained and people were pleased also on the 21st solstice people still took it upon themselves to go out for Montel ( a solstice celebration we have here ) and even though it was driving rain and not many about some people dressed up and went pub to pub playing music. I wasn’t out for long that night but saw about 50 people playing music and the obby oss on my way to the shop and no police .
Trying to arrest the obby oss would be a PR disaster, and probably spiritually self-harming to boot.
Ah.. Trelawney’s Army has long since departed I’m afraid..
NOTE by R.S. Hawker:
I recall singing that song with gusto as a lad at school – out the YHA songbook!
I’m in Falmouth at the moment, and can agree with your post. For an area that’s meant to be in Teir! (LOL) I’m still seeing a lot of idiots driving around in cars with masks on..
I live in Truro and can sympathise with this. Its mighty depressing to see the city in such a state. The only time i’m out is for food and find myself the only unmasked person there. I really can’t face going into town…its like a parallel universe. Thank god we can get out in the air on the coast where we are. So called tier 1 eh! Hunker down..be with people you love and stay away from the mutants.(Its bad for your health!) Thankyou to everyone on here for giving me an island to visit just to remind myself i’m not alone in feeling like i do.
This link has just been sent to me, from the Spectator in May:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/covids-metamorphosis-has-lockdown-made-the-virus-more-deadly
I have consulted Nostril Darmus and here are a few of her predictions for the coming year
Kia Starmer becomes head of the Conservative Party and the new Prime Minister
Emmanuel Macron and Piers Morgan marry at a secret location in the Congo. The bride wore a pink chiffon dress
After enquiries by The Special Investigation Branch of the British Road Hauliers Association it is discovered that Boris Johnson was kidnapped in late 1987. It is believed he was fed to pigs the following year. His body double replacement is found to be a Turkish Intelligence Agency operative
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris produce a child. The child is born in Beijing
Nicola Sturgeon and the President of Tanzania agree a job share
A new strain of flu is discovered.
Face masks will be worn 24hrs a day and now stitched to the victims face. All food will be administered per rectum
After a brief coup Queen Nut Nut the First of Sweden is enthroned. The best man was Greta. The population were granted an extra ration of mung beans in celebration
DNA tests prove that Professor Ferguson is Adolf Hitlers bastard grandson. His German handler is discovered in deep cover posing as a wife
A lizard is discovered using a computer
The currency of the UK will become the pebble
From a point just East of Dover to a point just to the West of Plymouth the English Channel will be filled in with concrete to a height of two metres above sea level
Matt Hancock is discovered and captured in the sewers under East Cheam
Don’t, none of YOU predicted 2020
That’s because no one would have believed us!
No, though some dystopian films and TV shows probably had an inkling and Albert Camus had some definite insights in La Peste.
“The currency of the UK will become the pebble”.. if that’s the case I’ll be across to the neighbours drive after dark with a mini-digger!
You have a fertile mind and a great sense of humour. As you know, this will become illegal in 2021. You will be invited for mandatory re-framing in line with national priorities.
Mandatory reframing, which will be presented as an ‘entitlement.’
But I thought Macron was already married to that older woman. Edna Krabappel or someone like that.
https://www.sproutwired.com/explosion-sets-fire-to-the-worlds-second-largest-hydroxychloroquine-raw-material-factory-political-connections/
Highly suspicious – 2nd largest supplier of HCQ in the world..
Too much of a coincidence. Imagine a vaccine factory exploding like this. It would raise alarm bells
I suppose it would be too much to hope this could be the start of a full-scale rebellion? Like when the tanker drivers blockade very nearly brought down Blair and his cronies? That came out of left-field, too, following complaisant tin-eared policy making.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2000/sep/16/uk.labour
DM:
‘Lorry drivers WILL be able to travel to France from tomorrow morning’
https://mol.im/a/9080041
But does that mean BJ has caved on fishing and the EU’s other demands?
Billionaires who meet up in Davos regularly to decide how to exploit the world better are more likely evil than clueless
Letter to The Supreme Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea Mr. Kim Jong-un.
Dear Mr. Kim,
I am writing to you in desperation to ask if you can help our country. The people of Britain are being kept under constant house arrest, forbidden to see families and friends, allowed out only to collect food which is now in very short supply and subject to rationing. Our national media has been gagged and now broadcasts nothing but government propaganda 24 hours a day. Our health service has been ‘cancelled’, our judiciary has been coerced to only support government policy, our right to demonstrate peacefully has been suspended and any attempts to do this are brutally curtailed by armed, masked thugs, masquerading as policemen, all cultural activities and any form of worship have been outlawed, our MP’s are supine and acquiescent to anything our government wishes, our very right to breathe freely is under threat.
Could you please use your good offices to bring these abuses of human rights to the notice of the United Nations, I feel you are the only hope we have left.
Thanking you in anticipation,
Old Bill
Excellent! That’s what Private Eye would be publishing if it were still meaningfully satirical.
Quite so. I have one more issue of Private Eye to come in my current subscription, but I’m not going to renew.
I cancelled my subscription to PE about 5 years ago. It use to be balanced and satirical to left and right, but it became bias to the left.
“Dear Mr Bill,
A container of kimchi will be sent to your doorstep.
Comradely greetings
Kim Jong Un”
I’m seriously tempted to seek political asylum in Belarus or North Korea.
If you haven’t got a Telegraph subscription you won’t be able to read this little gem https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/covid-proof-house-time-christmas/
The low lights are ““It might seem strange, but wearing a face covering inside is a really good idea when you’re in the presence of another household indoors,” says Dr Fitzgerald.”
“I would recommend leaving the food in the kitchen, and people going in to serve themselves,” he says. “However, if you are going to be bringing food to the table, and passing somebody within less than two metres, then wear a face covering when you’re moving around.”
“You could swap presents by the door, then go on a long walk together. Bring some snacks (and sanitiser) on the way. By being a bit inventive with your day, you are less likely to miss doing all the traditions,” says Prof Yardley.
Not worth a read in full if you have high blood pressure.
What next, 6 foot long distanced crackers?
FFS.. where do they dig these creeps up from???
We know who made a very big donation to the Telegraph so I guess they are supplied by that foundation.
I don’t know who is the most deranged,the twisted moron that thinks this crap up or the twisted morons that read it,think it’s good advice and actually do it.
Now if that’s full of chocolate it would last a while…..drool….
Find out where the feckers live and then spend time spying on them. See if they follow all their own stupid instructions.
Very good comedy
When sanity returns, as it will, the visual comedy that will be extracted from this moronic cretinosity will be limitless.
A request for Toby. (I know it will be ignored, but just letting off steam).
How about dividing the comment threads in to two sections?
One for the sane and rational people who just want Johnson, SAGE and his cabinet in jail and all the restrictions to end
and another for the nutters who think this is “all planned” by Gates and Schwab for their apparent sadistic pleasure and that it is all “supposed to happen”. It’s all part of some devious plot and that Johnson is a robot programmed to obey every whim of Schwab, or is some cunning actor who is pretending to be miserable.
It’s paranoia.
These bloody conspiracy nuts drive me round the bend. I swear, these idiots sometimes upset me more than the government.
I’m really really tired of it. I come on here to get away from the madness, not to be subjected to yet more of it.
Ring up 77th Brigade.. I hear they’re opening up their own forum for frustrated souls like you. Get it off your chest, I’m sure they’ll make you welcome..
you can’t call yourself
Hee hee.. that tickled old George
If the 77th brigade are posting here, they are also reading here.
If one could make a cast iron case against the necessity for lockdown and compulsory masking , and also for a more rigorous examination of the need for a vaccine, then perhaps one could manipulate a classic “turning” exercise .
If the power of the 77th is as strong as sometmes claimed then using its power against, say, the BBC would destroy that institution’s defences fairly quickly.
The only influence on the Govt at present (neglecting the possibility of corrupt financial dealings which are just supposition) is the BBC.
Politicians are absolutely, totally , terrified by its political presenters.
Turn the 77th brigade round (as seen in popular spy novels) and this nightmare is over.
Why are Johnson Sage and the cabinet doing it, plus many other countries?
Yes, don’t conflate stupidity and incompetence for some centrally organised conspiracy.
Or you could just tolerate people saying things you don’t like?
I find just not reading them solves such problems, unless I’m in the mood for an argument (which admittedly is most of the time for an argumentative old git like me, but some topics do get a bit pointless to discuss, though that tends to be a pretty subjective judgement).
Ignore or engage is my rule for comments I dislike or disagree with. I choose not to regard removing as a viable option.
Perhaps others feel similar about your rantings yet manage to accept that you have as much of a right to hold and express your opinion as they do theirs.
build back better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkcaeaD45MY
I’m not a conspiracy theorist in the slightest. I don’t buy pizzagate, I don’t buy 9/11 stuff, I think we went to the moon, etc.
But there is a limit to what I can believe is possible through simple incompetence and hysteria. This year we have seen the complete and 100% transformation of nearly every aspect of life in nearly every corner of the developed world, and much of the developing. Every aspect is bring us closer to a completely totalitarian society, and all of it is based on a falsehood.
As implausible as a coordinated conspiracy seems, the alternative – that we have conjured a world-war level global crisis out of thin air and almost everyone has fallen for it – is starting to look equally implausible.
I’m not saying I buy any specific theories about Klaus Schwab being the puppet master to all global leaders or suchlike, but it’s all getting fishier by the day and there are certainly people out there benefitting, both financially and in terms of power and ego. It’s also being used in a very obvious way to further climate change policy and other globalist-type interests which also sets my alarm bells ringing.
To follow up on this, I had a thought about the most frequently-cited psychological reason that people are said to believe in conspiracy theories. This is that they believe things are hoaxed (e.g. mass shootings) in order to protect themselves from the horrible reality that there are truly evil people out there wishing to do them great harm.
In this scenario, you could argue the reverse. People are refusing to believe that this is even a little bit planned because of what that implies. They have to believe it’s all a mistake because if it isn’t, the world is a very dark place indeed and the light may not return for a long time.
To be clear, what I envisage when I think about how this might have been ‘planned’ is not shadowy figures plotting in dark rooms or on private islands. It may not even have been ever discussed explicitly by the main orchestrators. I think of it more as a hive-mind type event, where over several years or more, large and powerful international organisations put together plans of how they would combat the next respiratory pandemic, and coincidentally how they would use such a crisis to their advantage.
Note that such organisations believe above all in their own righteousness, so in their eyes planning in this way isn’t even sinister – both combatting a pandemic and furthering their globalist goals (combatting climate change, online ‘disinformation’ etc) are morally correct actions.
As the convergence of interests become more and more clear to all those involved, planning increased and the search for new viruses intensified. This was always bound to yield results. Seek and ye shall find. And what might otherwise have been a totally unnoticed event, or perhaps a relatively minor 3-6 month panic a la SARS, instead triggered the enaction of a grand global plan of coordinated and severe action.
If you think such a plan wasn’t around, you only have to watch Event 201 on Youtube to see it being discussed. This was an event organised by the Gates Foundation, John Hopkins University and the WEF, just months before SARS-Cov-2 was discovered, which simulated a global response to a new coronavirus pandemic. It both eerily presages our current reality and involves key players in the global response to it. I cannot believe this is a coincidence. If you haven’t watched it, you must. Again, these people weren’t laughing in smoky back rooms after the event at how they’ve just announced their grand conspiracy to the world and the plebs haven’t even noticed. They probably sincerely believed in their own importance and the importance of their work that day. But it primed them all to expect the big one to arrive, and when it seemed to, they swung into action.
Of course, I won’t shy away from the idea that some of the key players truly knew the score and privately understood that this scenario could have ended up playing out even for a minor virus. But they stood to benefit and probably in some way convinced themselves that the transformation in store was also for the good of humanity in the long run. Utopian revolutionaries always do before they lay waste to society.
Good post.. the only thing I’d add is that total World Control has been a desired objective for perhaps two hundred years, and during that time the so called elite have nearly always signalled their intentions for the more astute to find. Knowing that the masses would never believe those astute few who sounded an alarm.
“I’m not a conspiracy theorist in the slightest, I don’t buy pizzagate, I don’t buy 9/11 stuff, I think we went to the moon, etc.
But there is a limit to what I can believe is possible through simple incompetence and hysteria. “
I would absolutely concur with that.
I think there are many more people, including some of my friends – who I would never have thought would do so – are starting to wonder how we could have such an astonishing series of coincidence of events and responses to bring us to where we are now.
I think, from my research of some of the members of SAGE et al, who have very dubious “interests”, both financial and political, and are “advising” a dithering pillock (PM) and a power freak (Wankcock) would normally be strange bedfellows but, it may be that they are using each other to their own ends.
Add in the fact that huge sums have been made by the wealthiest from this in online commerce etc, then they are not likely to complain.
Perhaps surprisingly, some others around the world still trust that the UK is a sensible place and that “our” opinion is worth considering (God help us!) and, probably encouraged by forces of political dissent from within their own countries, are doing a similar thing.
What perturbs me most is that the bloody BBC is still revered by many worldwide and when the scientists that are of much greater credibility (Barrington Declaration etc) than the twats in SAGE, try to make themselves heard, they are ignored or dismissed as “nut jobs”.
That I think is mostly how we are where we are – but I don’t discount at all, the perfectly verifiable financial (and probably therefore ideological influence) involvement by the likes of Gates and others in WHO, academic research grants, etc.
It may also be that those who DO have intention of a “Great Reset” are also taking advantage of the situation too.
Or I may be wrong!
What I do hope is that we don’t stop debating all this here.
Just my 2.5 pence worth
For a long time I subscribed to the Toby incompetence theory but I now find in his weekly arguments with Delingpole that I increasingly find in favour of Delingpole (even though I dislike his support of hunting). Its just hard to imagine most other governments of the world would wreck their own economies because of mutual stupidity and especially for 9 months. Even Sweden is now coming under global pressure to succumb to the favoured strategy. The dodgy US election,the forcing through of Green New Deals,the ever increasing censorship…..these dont sound like manifestations of incompetence to me.
I can’t imagine why you’d come HERE to ”get away from the madness”! This is where we actually discuss it!
Perhaps it’d be better for your peace of mind either to stop visiting this site, or decide that if you can’t beat ’em then you should join ’em!
PS But I think I detect a note of fear in your anger. That’s not good.
Unfortunately your description of all those who don’t see it as you do as “nutters” won’t help.
There is a whole raft of beliefs varying from those who think it is just a bit of a mistake by “poor Boris” to the “looneys” who think little green men from mars are the problem.
Most are somewhere in between, and if you discount all of those that don’t accord with you then you might find a few problems with posters who’s responses you label as “nutters”.
I have been subject to some strange things happening to a couple of posts I made a few days ago – having posts from a “contributor” I had robustly responded to deleted, and comments “made” by me which I had not made.
I have not had a proper, definitive answer as to what had happened, on here.
People here have said posts are not deleted by mods/admins, which they possibly aren’t, but I have discovered that posts made, can of course be edited or deleted by the original poster, within a certain period.
I have also discovered that as a registered poster you can in fact post as another existing user, something I was astonished to discover was possible!
I tested this by posting a stupid “response” (as a well known troll on here), and, apart from a short period of the status being”awaiting approval”, the post was made!
So it’s possible some stuff you see posted may not have even have been the original poster!
I agree that there must be some attempt be admins to stop this sort of thing happening by changing the ability of an existing confirmed poster being able to post as another existing user. THAT is bonkers!
You twist people’s words
Gates, Schwab (numerous others), Pharma and tech industries are interested in making money. No doubt the banks are involved too. It’s about money and control – that’s it
But you’re twisting it into a James Bond villain scenario
Bonjour Monsier Incompetence Theorist.
Join the queue over there .
I highly recommend reading “The Strange Death of Dr David Kelly” by Norman Baker. Recommended it to many, few have the guts to confront what our oh so civilized government is capable of doing.
Norman Baker, 15yrs MP for Lewes, knows Westminster inside and out, painstakingly researched the level of corruption involved and how he came to the conclusion after actually having analysed all the evidence that Kelly was murdered and the British Gov has his hands in it even if they themselves didn’t do the deed. The 2003, 45min dossier disaster, the corruption from all echelons of the establishment, the inevitable lead up to Iraq war and the destruction of their livelihoods, culture and society.
Fast forward 17 years and you are watching yet another dossier moment in this country, only that this time it’s psychological and economic warfare against its own people for agendas most fail to understand as it’s too big and too scary.
If you cannot see the greater picture behind it, I highly recommend listening to Catherine Austin Fitts, Solari Report, former Assistant Secretary of Housing, who has been chasing the missing 21 trillion in the US gov… maybe then, you will understand why Schwab is mentioned… the dots connect, they always do, they do with the Kelly affair too.
The only question Baker doesn’t answer is – what did Bush Jr hold over puppy dog’s Blair’s head that made him jump through hoots to please his master…? My suggestion would be to look to Epstein and the dirt he and Maxwell had on politicians… but of course then I may be labeled a conspiracy theorist to which I say – “unlike you I have not surrendered my capacity for critical thinking and I follow the evidence wherever it leads”.
On a side note: friend inside the HSBC (high up) confirmed the HSBC is actively working on switching over to e-Euro. The flick of the switch as per order of the Central Banks is a matter of time UNLESS we throw a stick in their wheels. Because whether it’s “just the e-Euro and the e-GBp” or a “digital world currency”, the point is that many billionaires benefited beautifully from this crisis and the average man and woman has been thrown under the bus, and we are not really going to have a say in those e-currencies, are we…? Unless we put a stick in their wheels… that stick is waking up to the bigger picture. You are witnessing the greatest bank robbery against the ordinary decent human of all times and the best YOU have to offer is label people who call it out as “nutters”? Clearly you know fuck all about the financial system, derivatives bubble, non-backed currencies like ours…?
How about showing us the evidence the assumption of the digital world currency agenda are wrong (which is just one of many by the way)? Hard evidence I mean…? What is YOUR evidence other than that you cannot fathom a real ugly truth about our government and you feel the need to lash out because you are triggered by your own fear?
Good post Pebbles. A lot of truth there. Those that think government loves them are Little Red Riding Hood to the Government Wolf..
What would it take for you to entertain the possibility that you are wrong to a smaller or greater degree?
John – for chrissake, just leave it. I agree that the Blofeld-type conspiracy theories are what they are – in large part fantasy – and hobby-horses are often exceedingly boring to watch.
But this situation is bound to spark attempts at finding motivations. Conspiracies are just part of that.
I try to avoid discussions about motivations – simply because it gets in the way of the prime task of getting over the basic fallacies about Covid in terms of the hard data. It’s too easy to get side-tracked into fruitless arguments.
If pushed, I don’t believe in any mega-conspiracy; just a convergent range of both opportunism and gullibility that ride on the back of this.
I don’t believe in conspiracy theories but feel a lot of people are taking advantage of the situation to push their agendas, WEF, extreme environmentalists, drug companies, and so on. I think a lot of people, many linked to politicians are making a lot of money. For example, a lot of SAGE members have shares in vaccine companies, Government cronies have contacts for testing and PPE.
Why they have destroyed dental treatment in this country now makes much more sense after seeing that. It would clearly be much safer if everyone’s teeth fell out.
I know that this has already been brought up on here, but this is the latest on the little dictator & her “forgetting” her mask.
One rule for them & another for us. Fucking little witch that she is.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/police-taking-no-further-action-23211997
No sympathy for any of em,but how pathetic is it that the “media” and the sheep are transfixed about if anybody, politician,”celebrity” or
whoever if seen without a face nappy is classed as headline news?
Scots have killed themselves because of lockdown
#hernamewasyvonne
Probably suicide is not the kind of statistic they want to publicise. I am not surprised more people check out, or at least want to.
“Have you any idea how much tyrants fear the people they oppress? All of them realize that, one day, amongst their many victims, there is sure to be one who rises against them and strikes back!”
This quote is from Harry Potter and I think this above all is what this government is truly afraid of. This is why the government are so desperate for us not to congregate, hence the reason they’ve ramped up the restrictions so much this week. I think they realise that more people are waking up so they’re utterly desperate to keep us under their thumb.
Make no mistake, they will overplay their hand one day and that’s when all hell breaks loose. They’re already experiencing a taste of this with the lorry drivers stuck in Dover.
I wonder if J K Rowling is pro-lockdown?
Her public views haven’t generally been too inspiring, but she’s rich enough not to care.
She has come under fire for her assertions that there are two genders from the trans crowd. So she has been stung by the woke crowd and been “cancelled” by the woke brigade for daring to disagree with them.
Admittedly, she hasn’t really expressed any views on lockdown as of yet but I would be surprised if she was a full blown lockdownista at this point.
*there are two SEXES. The mistaken conflation between sex and gender is part of the problem.
I think that’s a bizarre view – yes she’s rich, but she has certainly paid a price with all the woke wankers and cancel brigade.
It’s almost certain that she does care about what she has – perfectly lawfully -expressed, which is probably why she has expressed them.
Rich enough not to care – yes – but maybe she does…..
Time and time and time again I ask the conspiracy nutters to provide
HARD EVIDENCE
It never ever comes. No, it’s enough for them to quote their favorite media con-artist or they rely on what little goes on between their ears to convince them that it is all planned.
It’s not James Bond they say, while promoting creepy Claus as the most devious Bond villain.
Oh that’s the other mark of these idiots. They know. Oh, they can never be fucking wrong!
No, they know it all. They’ve been borrowing Ferguson’s crystal ball. They can see in to he future. They know it is BAD.
Oh, you conspiracy nutjobs think you are so bloody clever, don’t you!
I do have some sympathy for the sheep. I was subjected to one today. I turned up in his print shop unmasked. He didn’t say anything but “masked up” before serving me. I’m going back there so I declined to say what I thought of that
I’t enough having to deal with this madness out there in the real world withough being subjected to people with paranoid delusions on here as well!
Sure, I would go to another forum if there was any out there.
I would like proof that its just a mistake by the hapless Johnson and his hapless team and the rest of hapless Europe etc. Like whoops, sorry…….
That’s hardly proof, to be fair, just one plausible theory among several
I don’t find alternative theories as maddening as John P does, but I do share to an extent a little bit of the frustration – I don’t expect people pushing these alternative theories to be able to give us chapter and verse on the mechanism, but I’d like to see set out at least some speculative thoughts on the ways in which some group or coalition are managing to influence quite a lot of world governments
That wasnt mean to be proof, just another alternative to a conspiracy, there are a variety of ‘alternatives’
Julian.. there is no speculation its all out there in plain site but it does take a lot of research. The desire for total world control is nothing new if you study history. The initial plans for world government were incorporated in the plans for WW1 via the British Empire. A war by the way that was not wanted by Germany, but by a cabal including British Royalty, Rothschild, Alfred Milner and toadying politicians etc.
Skip a few decades and the world governments signed up to the UN Agenda 21 sustainable development goals at the Rio Earth summit in 1992. Those goals include depopulation, rewilding of large areas of the planet, abolition of private property, removal of people from the countryside, abolition of private vehicles etc et.
This initial summit was organised by a man called Maurice Strong (a Rockefeller cronie) He was also responsible for the founding of the IPCC and the consequent climate scam. This very same man called for the collapse of western nations, and said it was their cabal’s responsibility to bring this about. Strong was a member of The Club of Rome, and they actually wrote a book with their ideas in it called The First Global Revolution.
So there’s a start for you, and yes, by the way.. people like Gates and Schwab are just bit players. The real power never surfaces, and that’s held by the likes of the City of London Crown Agents, old aristocratic European families and their intertwined relationships with Royalty and International bankers.
One thing is absolutely true though.. those powers that I mentioned above want total world control over a much reduced populace..
On a serious note, are you OK? I’ve seen you post before about how you’re very lonely, and I understand how hard that must be at the moment. You seem particularly wound up lately, which is why I ask.
Vaccine tied to digital passport,how much proof do you need.A written letter from Bill Gates
Why don’t you create your own site? Why subject yourselves to us conspiracy nutjobs? Nobody is forcing you to lower yourself to engage with our crazy paranoid delusions. I don’t know why you can’t simply post your own experiences and/or refrain from commenting on what you consider to be crazy stuff. There are lots of people here from different backgrounds, political persuasions, countries, etc. and we don’t always agree with everyone on everything. I’m amazed at how civilized this site is, all things considered, particularly since everyone is under huge amounts of stress. Can you just stop with the name calling and demonstrate some self-control by not responding to posts you find maddening? It’s not that difficult.
Well said Lisa, thank you. And for some, deep down the barrel of cognitive dissonance, no evidence is ever enough.
Well – THAT was better out than in, wasn’t it?
John, please don’t use ad hominem attacks like “nutter” and “idiot” – they don’t help at all. I’m with John Galt – I also want to know that you’re ok.
What would you like ‘hard evidence’ for John?
As I suggested yesterday, feel free to setup your own forum/blog. No mention of Bill Gates/WEF/Great Reset allowed.
John P – I hope you’re OK. Sincerely so
I hope 2021 heralds the return to normality. The old normal. Freedom
This is just too much
So the wayfarer Inn Instow Devon gave free accommodation and food to Health and Frontline workers at the beginning of the pandemic March/April and now in December get raided by 10 police officers piling in through the door and a £4000 fine for some people not being in their bubbles whatever happened to one good turn deserves another ? FFS
https://www.northdevongazette.co.uk/news/instow-pub-owner-enforcement-response-6866146
The owner should send an invoice to NHS for the accomodation and food costs
Good idea. How about £4000?
Presumably some snitcher tipped off the filth.
Lets hope the pub found out who it is and bars the cunt for life.
Well the other set of grandparents have been with Christmas presents for Grace, my 13-year-old granddaughter.
It didn’t look very promising when they got out of their car wearing masks and everything went steadily downhill from there. Having handed over the presents they wouldn’t come into the house and proceeded to stand the requisite distance from the front doorstep talking to Grace for half an hour (still masked up). They were under an umbrella as it was chucking it down with rain and as the temperature was only 5 degrees they had more chance of getting pneumonia.
State and media induced mental illness. SAMIMI.
I have neighbours like this. Live on small private estate with large communal area. Tomorrow evening we are having socially distanced mulled wine and mince pies. They will not be joining us the reason being…”we are a little uncomfortable in the current situation so will sadly give it a miss.” All the more for me.
Have an orgy as well!
Samimi is Turkish for “sincere”. The word is probably derived from Arabic. Nothing sincere about this, though…
This people can’t be fixed.
Yes -it will.
Before the pendulum swings back, it must go all the way to the other side.
Well Biggles I feel for you. I’m a Grandad, and know full well that this whole thing is a scam. However we now seem to live in a world where a majority of the population are undoubtedly incapable of independent thought and the ability to apply some critical thinking. Its just so frustrating..
Irish nuttery bears more fruit – episode 4523:
Self-isolating means eating Christmas dinner in your bedroom – Dr Colm Henry https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40195872.html
Dr Colm Henry, Chief Clinical Officer with the HSE, said the 14-day isolation advice means that anyone who came to Ireland from Britain from December 11 onwards should self-isolate in their bedroom.
“Self-isolation means staying in your room in so far as possible, except for essential purposes,” he said.
You should stay in your room to ensure you are not the means of transmission of this more transmissible form of the virus within the house.”
Asked if it means eating Christmas dinner in their room – Dr Henry told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland: “yes, sadly it did mean that.”
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In the meantime the Irish Agriculture Minister has tested positive after a trip to Brussels to talk about fish. Although he has no symptoms, the rest of the cabinet pond life are restricting their movements as a precaution.
I have a friend of long standing who lives in Brunei in the far east. I was quite touched to receive a worried message asking if I was OK in the plague-ridden cesspit that is modern Britain. Unfortunately she relies on the BBC for news about the UK. I replied that I was more worried about the government than about catching covid, and that the BBC is now the propaganda arm of the government. I recommended this site as an alternative viewpoint.
I know what you mean, Edward. I’m constantly writing to our Canadian, Australian and NZ friends to tell them that, despite our government trying to present the UK as the plague pit of Europe, in fact the figures show otherwise.
”Our” town in Alberta has had a couple of ”cases” and some elderly deaths (with not from) and they seem to be terrified! And these are educated, thinking people!
We must try to keep countering this evil propaganda put about by our own national broadcaster, in our own small way.
How are things in Brunei?
Not many cases but quite severe restrictions, similar to tier 3 here. Strict controls on entry. As they are ruled by an autocratic sultan they mostly do as they are told. I should clarify that “plague-ridden cesspit” is my satirical interpretation and not my friend’s actual words.
Parts of the media have always enjoyed running stories of “Britain is the laughing stock of the world”.
Yes I had a very concerned message from a friend in Hong Kong. I laughed and gave them a “nothing to see here” explanation of recent events.
A few things.
Can whomever links the articles to the posts above do so via archive sites so the whole article can be read as intended.
Also why wasn’t the Sturgenator not near the top of the posts today. It’s astonish g how much she can get away with. She needs more pressure on her.
A good summary thread (retweeted by InProportion2) on why so few have stood up to be counted on the coronapanic:
https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1341747532192382976
It’s a very good analogy.
Spot on!
Well worth a read
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That is why I sometimes think that the conspiracy nuts are actually being paid to spread their Gates/Schwab nonsense.
The idea may be to :
(1) discredit Toby Young
(2) deflect attention away from Johnson and his government
(3) to drive lockdown sceptics insane (they’re driving me mad!)
But I am mindful that when I do think this that I have no evidence, no proof of this.
And despite the fact that these people are impossible to reason with, it may just be that they genuinely believe that Schwab (who I have no fondness or regard for) is some sort of latter day Bond villain and that it is “all planned” by him and people like Gates and Soros despite the fact that they have no evidence for their beliefs.
So I don’t indulge my own paranoid thoughts when they arise. I dismiss them.
I don’t know the future. I don’t know what other people are thinking and I don’t know their motivations.
‘deflect attention away from Johnson and his government’
John, is covid a British phenomenon or a global phenomenon?
Would you check out James Corbett at the Corbett Report? Everything he puts out is impecably sourced. You can see the show notes and check his sources yourself. It’s not always a case of listening to every source – I’ve been studying this stuff for years and I know who I trust to give me facts. He’s one of them. He recently did a complete series on Bill Gates you might find interesting.
Now you sound exactly like the type of person you’re deriding
Who’s paying people to question Gates, the WEF, Pharma? I’d like to know. Give us your wisdom
I’ve only ever seen direct quotes from Schwab and WEF
here. Not nonsense.
Where can I sign up.I could with an income
John P.. the story is a long one but here’s a taster..
The desire for total world control is nothing new if you study history. The initial plans for world government were incorporated in the plans for WW1 via the British Empire. A war by the way that was not wanted by Germany, but by a cabal including British Royalty, Rothschild, Alfred Milner was a tore de force, and toadying English politicians etc.
Skip a few decades and the world governments signed up to the UN Agenda 21 sustainable development goals at the Rio Earth summit in 1992. Those goals include depopulation, rewilding of large areas of the planet, abolition of private property, removal of people from the countryside, abolition of private vehicles etc etc.
This initial summit was organised by a man called Maurice Strong (a Rockefeller cronie) He was also responsible for the founding of the IPCC and the consequent climate scam. This very same man called for the collapse of western nations, and said it was their cabal’s responsibility to bring this about. Strong was a member of The Club of Rome, and they actually wrote a book with their ideas in it called The First Global Revolution.
So there’s a start for you, and yes, by the way.. people like Gates and Schwab are just bit players.The real power never surfaces, and that’s held by the likes of the City of London Crown Agents, old aristocratic European families and their intertwined relationships with Royalty and International bankers.
One thing is absolutely true though.. those powers that I mentioned above want total world control over a much reduced populace, and every bit of information regarding the overall plan is hiding in plain site. They’ve let it be known over the years what they are going to do, and the adjoined WEF is letting you know now. There’s no conspiracy as such.. they’re letting you in on their plans for you..
John, you are either deranged or you are not who you puport to be.
Hi John
I disagree with what seem to me like the more exotic theories, but I don’t think it’s unfair to doubt their sincerity or imply they have ulterior motives – some may, but I think both “sides” should assume the other “side” is sincere unless proved otherwise definitively.
I am torn – I believe in freedom of speech and robust debate, and these are important issues, but maybe they are taking too much of our energy and sanity, both of which are in short supply.
Christmas Truce?
You can kill Covid with a flick of a switch, study showsUltraviolet LED lights kill coronavirus quickly, efficiently and cheaply — but don’t go stringing purple lights all over your home.https://www.israel21c.org/you-can-kill-covid-with-a-flick-of-a-switch-study-shows/?utm_source=The+Weekly&utm_campaign=weekly-2020-12-23&utm_medium=email
No need for vaccine then.
Switch on side of TV does the same job.
Going out in the sunshine should do the same thing
In Japan back in september.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/09/22/national/japan-first-uv-lamp-kills-coronavirus/
Is this like when sea water was able to dissolve the triffids?
Trump correct again?
Like wise infra red heaters kill it too as it heats all objects it comes in contact with, lemon grass vaporisers help as well as it is a well known anti viral/anti bacterial
A YouGov poll on Tuesday revealed that 39 percent would “strongly support” another lockdown, 32 per cent would “somewhat support” it, while only 12 per cent would “strongly oppose” and 10 percent would “somewhat oppose” it.
How difficult is YouGov to manipulate? Not only is it operated by a former tory minister, but surely anyone.. from Basildon or Bejiing could register using authentic looking details and vote on it?
That’s good news.
Given that it’s Yougov, I would expect much higher support for Lockdown than that.
YouGov will set you free
Could it be any coincidence that its co-founder was Nadhim Zahawi, now the Govt minister for vaccines?
Just saying …
Minister for vaccines??
LMFAO
We’ll have a Minister for Paracetamol next.
Here’s a link.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55115037
Though it is the BBC so, as the saying goes, “is that true or did you hear it on the BBC”
Given the sheeple, I predict the Govt will soon appoint a Minister for Telling the People How to Wipe their Arse
And YouGov would strongly support a second Government.
YouGov finds 99% of people think that the the Government is doing a fabulous job, particularly YouGov’s co-founder Nadhim Zahawi …. hmmm
Opinion polls are a means to influence public opinion not measure it
Only 39%? That is major progress!!
How can you somewhat support a lockdown though? It’s all or nothing, legally enforced restrictions isn’t it? You can’t “somewhat” follow them, you either do or you don’t.
I wouldn’t trust YouGov as far as I could fling them. They are nothing more than paid influencers. The day I start believing them is the day I lose the will to live..
If you don’t fit with their algorithm, which is used when they want a poll to give a specific result, you don’t get that specific one. Endless consumer ones will fill your inbox though
As I’ve posted before, yougov surveys are sent out by invitation to particular members, so it’s perfectly possibly to manipulate the samples in advance. You don’t even have to word the questions ambiguously if you know in advance what the answers are likely to be. I’ve NEVER been sent a survey asking my views on lockdown or vaccines since expressing the fact I was against the lockdown months ago.
Here is a brief account of my surreal experience with our local library: having reserved 3 books-still allowed,although obligatory quarantining delays delivery-I received a message today advising that the books were now ready for collection.
Straightfoward,one might have assumed; not so. Since The Sturgeonator saw fit to confine us in Tier 4, the council has removed library opening hours from the website, although would be patrons are advised to check the hours on said website as Tier 4 now in operation.
I phoned the library,no answer; rang the council helpline: no information available, even though the council stipulates the permitted opening hours; went round to library-closed with obsolete opening hours notice on front window.
You couldn’t make this up! I have no idea whether,as assured by the council website,that I will be able to collect the books before 1pm tomorrow, after which time the library will close for another 3 weeks,while The Sturgeonator considers options for future punishment.
This lot couldn’t run a charity stall. Utterly, utterly bonkers, inefficient and disorganised.
But The Sturgeonator still has the widespread approval of the faithful.
Rant over.
They don’t want you reading books, it might help you to think.
Or you might even enjoy it.
Can’t be having that.
I hear that krank has been wild-hitler-eyes raving in the chamber this morning defending her carehome actions. I’m told the vitriol she put together left no doubt she knows she is in a corner with the wolves approaching.
Yay for wolves!
If only wolves still lived in Scotland! Perhaps the Russians would let us have some to start a colony.
I seem to recall that the last wolf in Scotland was killed at Killiekrankie. Which prompts a thought….
Last I heard she claimed she knew nothing of the care homes.
dont suppose one of the books you ordered was “catch 22”
Funnily enough, this was one of my previous orders and very timely it was too.
I ordered a library book pack for my 6 yo during LD 2. Still no word on it. Must be tough these days putting a few books into a bag for a small child, I expect Covid is making it virtually impossible.
Yes it’s just too hazardous; lethal pathogens might be lurking between the pages or hiding in the bookstacks, ready to pounce.
Books are dangerous. People who read them are subversives. Unless they buy them from state-approved Amazon. Death to the bookshops! Death to the libraries!
The “Knowledge Economy” is really the “Ignorance Economy” and the computer says ‘No’, as the TV sketch had it.
Just been to Porton Down Mark II – Marks and Spencer Decontamination Centre Haverfordwest to collect my turkey.
If anybody wants a text-book example of the absolute and total negation of the Christmas, and indeed the human, spirit, I recommend that hell-hole, a weeping sore outstandingly ugly even on the poxy face of Gulag Wales.
Things are a little better in Co Durham. Mrs B got the turkey from M&S yesterday. There was a huge queue, but as the turkey had been pre-ordered she was allowed to go straight in and also get a few other things. Everyone was masked up but the staff were very friendly. She was in and out in 15 minutes so it was way quicker than last year.
Why bother. I would rather have dry bread and water for my Christmas dinner than put myself through that. But then I am feeling very depressed these days. Can’t be bothered with the Christmas performance in the slightest, in fact I can’t wait for it to be over so people can stop being all merry and jolly and festive and actually live in the cr*p that is now the real world.
Sorry, told you I was feeling depressed.
Great post and spot on really.
Wife just come back from Sainsburies, Wrexham. Busy, and all normal, apart from the obligatory mask-wearing. No stupid aisle closures like the so-called Firebreak (stupid name for a worthless endeavour). No queues. My son’s in Chester – Christmas shopping – a bit quieter than he expected, but festive and fun. I really do think the majority are ignoring all this nonsense. Everyone else is cowering at home. Good. keep out of our way, you fools!
You’ve not been to Rhyl then…
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=hootsuite&utm_content=sme&utm_campaign=usage
From the link above, the last line says it all
The absence of strong evidence that asymptomatic people are a driver of transmission is another good reason for pausing the roll out of mass testing in schools, universities, and communities.
Psychopaths are said to struggle with creativity.
Management-speak creates jargon to signal quickly you are on the minute with the latests flashy thinking.
A short compilation of Build, Back, … wait for it, wait for it… Better.
https://youtu.be/YkcaeaD45MY
Isn’t it curious how in times on global communication each dear leader (and non elected maniac) chirrup on about the same three words. Does each of these dear leaders mean the same thing with these ambiguous/meaningless jargon words?
Is Building Back the same in Canada as France? Is Better the same for the Maldives as for China. Does Merkel (mess weg) mean the same thing for the people of Germany as Biden does in America?
So many questions over so few words. Why oh why are they so meaningless yet popular to spout?
In the same way the plebs have been taken in by covid. Our leaders have been taken in by the great reset. There is no great reset. Just a depression.
2008 banking theft has never been addressed properly
The bat cold is a rather convenient smokescreen for the depression that was always on the way
Johnson explained what he meant by that slogan,the green industrial revolution.Hence the windmills,cycle lanes and banning of petrol/diesel vehicles
Hellishly vague and a shit way to build 60k jobs building windmills that need china nukepower to back up on off days. I hear whst you are saying but, did he really explain ot did he jargon-warning green-wash?
Owning nothing is some peoples idea of better back building. Others, actually the same, think trip to mars is just the ticket.
The Greens/Extinction Rebellion are the biggest liars on the planet. Not a pip from them about the scourge of discarded face masks polluting the oceans.
Apart from perhaps China, the world’s biggest polluter (apparently) is the United States military. Seeing a photo opportunity of Greta Thunberg shaking hands with Obama (who’s droned multiple countries during his presidency) was all I needed to realise Extinction Rebellion is disingenuous.
Right here goes, some green bollocks factoids
It will take the Tesla battery factory 500 years to make enough batteries to store just one day’s worth of Americas electricity use
Currently alternative energy sources supply just 3% of the world energy
Windmills and batteries and solar panels are all built from non-renewable materials
A single EV battery weighs about half a ton, making one requires digging up 250 tons of earth somewhere on the planet.
Building a single 100MW wind farm to power 75000 homes requires 3000 tons of Iron ore, 50000tons of Concreate, and 900 tons of plastic. For a 100MW solar farm would need 150% more of these materials.
Rare earth metals, the world will need 200 to 2000% increase in mining for elements such as cobalt, lithium, copper, iridium, and dysprosium. Massive new mining operations all over the world will be needed. Mostly in remote wilderness areas. The mining itself requires massive amounts of conventional energy as do the refinery and manufacture processes.
These products have a life of about 20 years or less.
The international renewable energy agency calculates that by 2050 the disposal of worn out solar panels will constitute double the tonnage of all of the worlds plastic waste. Wind mills and batteries will add even more non renewable junk into the environment.
Facts taken from here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI
Apparently electric cars remove their source of pollution from the exhaust pipe and transfer it over to the power plant and the mines that dig up the raw materials that are used for the electric batteries. They are expensive virtue-signalling vehicles
Thank you. That’s quite shocking. So the Greens are either ignorant or they’re lying
If anything it shows you how it’s not spontaneous action. It’s a plan and they are well aware of what it signals to adopt the correct language.
Could someone do me a favour and point me at the ‘source’ of the bogus 691 deaths yesterday, please?
Although they announce them as daily deaths e.g.691 yesterday, the date of the deaths vary. The chart shows the deaths by date of death which gives a balanced picture. As you can see for yesterday, the orange bars represent the deaths announced yesterday.
HOW DARE YOU?!?!
EVERY NUMBER, EVERY FORECAST, EVERY PCR, EVERY JAB, EVERY DEATH is obtained thanks to highly sophisticated algos, running on the best super computers moron uman animals ever made!
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
Shows how “deaths by date reported” as given by MSM distorts the real picture.
Take note of the scale on the left.
An important pair of diagrams – note the weekend effect on the reporting date graph ( fewer deaths reported on Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays) and the catch up on Tuesdays and Wednesdays
Of course mainstream journalists do not seem to notice or care
To show how announced deaths are spread out – Today’s announced deaths in English Hospitals were 416 comprising
55 deaths on 22 Dec
190 deaths on 21st Dec
64 Deaths on 20 Dec
37 Deaths on 19th Dec
32 Deaths on 18th Dec
12 Deaths on 17th Dec
and 26 Deaths spread out on various dates up until 19th of April
Daily deaths in English hospitals have been averaging at about 280 since mid November – The English Hospital data is available here – https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/ and is updated daily about 2 pm
yer we are back to the death tally again aren’t we. This is the same trick they used the first time round. These people are a one trick pony. This is all they have to scare the sheeple with. Lies.
At the risk of being regarded a “nutter”, “bot” or “troll” – as I have posted most of the following in a reply to another post by “John P” earlier – I would like something done by Site Admins about the following:
I have been subject to some strange things happening to a couple of posts I made a few days ago – having posts from a “contributor” I had robustly responded to deleted, and comments “made” by me which I had not made.
I have not had a proper, definitive answer as to what had happened, on here.
People here have said posts are not deleted by Mods or Admins, which they possibly aren’t, but I have discovered that posts made, can of course be edited or deleted by the original poster, within a certain period.
I have also discovered that as a registered poster you can in fact post as another existing user, something I was astonished to discover was even possible!
I tested this by posting a stupid “response” (as a well known troll on here), and, apart from a short period of the status being ”awaiting approval”, the post was made!
So, it’s possible some stuff you see posted here may not have even been made by the original poster!
Some attempt must be made please, by Admins to stop this sort of thing happening by changing the ability of an existing confirmed poster being able to post as another existing user. If this is not addressed it will at some point undermine the credibility of the comments section!
THAT is bonkers!
I posted a screenshot from the ‘Ernst Wolff #Corona – The Collapse of the System’ video from YouTube yesterday, which disappeared
But there is more freedom on here to comment than there is on the Guardian website, which just deletes anything it doesn’t approve of
True – but being able to post as another user (very easily I discovered) is ridiculous and likely to cause problems for the site.
FYI, by my reckoning just under 4% of posts end up being deleted.
I have come to that conclusion by comparing the comment id (a monotonically-increasing integer) to the actual number of comments that I have scraped from this website whilst building Panscepticon.
For example, as at 13:36 today my database contained 307,703 comments, whereas the last comment id was 319,644. From this I conclude that 11,941 posts have been removed (or never published) since this site went live.
I presume the majority of the missing posts were spam, but I don’t have any inside information one way or the other.
@dhid: If you can find your masquerading post on Panscepticon, I can see if I can find a way to detect such tomfoolery in future.
OK – thanks.
What concerns me most is the ability to post as another verified user which I believe happened the other day, as the post id numbers of the (insulting) posts “I” had made were some time later than the real posts above then which were me.
Obviously the ability to edit or delete by the poster is needed for mistakes etc, but it does mean that if others posts are made as someone else (something I find extraordinary that it’s possible) can lead, as it did the other day to some serious misunderstanding!
This is a post by Mabel Cow, masquerading as dhid.
It would seem that post masquerading is definitely a thing (see my post above: from me, but labelled with dhid’s name).
Sigh. Like we don’t have enough lies to contend with.
Indeed – just to confirm – this is “dhid” as “Mabel Cow”.
As you say we don’t need this!
Here’s an example of a post from 2020-12-21 that was allegedly written by dhid but quite obviously wasn’t.
The underlying user id attached the masquerading post correlates with the id for the JohnB account. I don’t know whether this is a bug in the wpDiscuz software or actual malfeasance.
Definitely I can confirm I didn’t tell myself it was time for bed!
dhid
Further – I would expect it was a setting that needs changing but I have no idea what, have no experience with wpDiscuz.
If it’s a bug, it’s a serious one!
Maybe you should have done before throwing insults around ? Despite being told precisely what was happening.
Excellent work by our resident IT expert Mabel Cow and by dhid for spotting it in the first place. The administrators need to fix this masquerading issue quickly, otherwise the enemy will start to take advantage of it to bugger up the site, as the technical expression has it.
I have emailed the site administrator requesting that posting for non-logged in users be disabled.
Great thanks!
Yes I’m glad I figured what had happened to “my” posts and having Mabel Cow respond and confirming it by test – I was starting to think I was going mad!
Also thanks that user Mark confirmed his previous experience with a link elsewhere in thread.
Well, I might still be going mad – who knows? Lol!
It’s probably best if you contact the site’s admin by email as they probably don’t read all the comments. There is a link to the email address above the line.
Agreed and thanks – I can’t find a verifiable address for site admin though.
Given this simple, and I would have thought fairly obvious (and dangerous) “loophole”, it does make me a little worried if they will be able to fix it!
I’ve done system development for software and intranet sites where we made security issues like that a top priority. Even more important on a publicly accessible net site like this, especially given the subject.
I think some of us at least have been aware of this for a while and in general it hasn’t been abused
There has been some confusion where two Marks were posting – the second Mark didn’t realise there was another Mark. It was resolved amicably.
It’s not ideal, for sure.
Hi Julian,
I guess accidental “duplication” is one thing, but what I have highlighted was masquerading by another user with mall-intent, which was being used, which made me look like a scumbag, which I don’t think I am, too much, anyway!
As I expressed at the time, I had mentioned a certain numbered organisation of verifiable existence, (which contains the number two a couple of times!) which might have been the trigger – I don’t know.
I discussed the issue at some length with the admin rms who basically confirmed that there seems to be no fix within the software for this.
https://forums.lockdownsceptics.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=562
Frankly I was as amazed as you are that the software does not automatically require unique posting (and display) names. After giving it some thought I presume it is because the site uses a blog comment system designed for occasional comments beneath separate blog posts, not for sustaining long term discussions and IDs.
Frankly I don’t recall ever using a forum that allowed duplicate posting names in this way – the potential for confusion and outright abuse is obvious, but it’s a few years since I was particularly active, so perhaps it’s more common now.
Thanks – just looked at that….
Scary – if correct then given the widespread use – ye gods!
If you want to contact admin, you could go to that forum thread and send a private message to rms.
Admin is lockdownsceptics@castironsolutions.co.uk
They were v speedy and helpful when I had a login issue.
There was a third Mark though who persisted in posting under the duplicate ID for a while even after it was pointed out to him.
Presumably that was a genuine person, but who didn’t want to give up the ID?
If no fix is possible that is very worrying – I find it extraordinary that anyone developing software could not have realised that it was likely to be a serious problem!
Perhaps “Prof.” F£rguss0n was involved…….Lol!
I think it was – just a bit inconsiderate and unresponsive.
My fault in a way for choosing a common posting name back when I started commenting here, but if I’d given it any thought at the time I would just have assumed duplicates would be prevented by the system anyway.
Exactly – you shouldn’t have to think about it.
Most people wouldn’t even be aware there even could be a problem of that kind – duplicating or triplicating or….
There’s no free speech here anymore, many long term posters are recently banned. LS showing their true colours now.
Are they? Have you any proof of that? I’m not banned and I rarely hold back.
Fame at last !
Assuming you are “John P” – I wasn’t looking for fame mate! Lol!
Oh you mean my mention of you! Sorry!
It’s getting late and I have taken advantage of the sun being over the yardarm!
Switching channels on my tv came across f..ing Ferguson on BBC.
I immediately felt like throwing up.
Was he wearing a T-shirt and suit jacket again? Maybe he’ll get a shirt and tie for Christmas or better still, a new T-shirt with “I’m a absolute nob” on it.
Did not look long enough to notice.
Maybe “I devastated more lives than I said would be lost to the virus” on the back?
He should get a Columbian neck tie
It may be that if that scum didn’t exist then this whole shit-show may not have happened and millions or billions of people would not have died or suffered. If Pantsdown had the slightest humanity he would have done the world a favour long ago and had an intimate encounter with a Pendalino at high speed. If anyone in the future ever develops a time machine, please consider this candidate for erasure.
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I’m suffering from lettuce withdrawal symptoms, because the Mutant Ninja virus ordered people to empty the shelves.
I was going to roast it on Xmas day instead of the turkey.
A source of Big Pharma competition goes up in smoke. Nothing to see here, just terrible incompetence, a mishap, a mistake, an error etc.
.
As you say Ben.. nothing to see here. Its surely just a coincidence..
Is there such a thing as the definitive final official word on the England Scotland border closure?
Not looking for opinion but the actual final end of story word.
Some information – saw a panda on Monday evening at the Lamberton slip. Traffic appeared to be flowing freely.
There’s nothing official, as far as I am aware. The last I read was that the police were hoping the public would do the ‘right thing’.
Thanks. Ridiculous state of affairs.
CNN says not to be surprised if people die after taking the vaccine.
https://summit.news/2020/12/08/cnn-dont-be-alarmed-if-people-start-dying-after-taking-the-vaccine/
But we’re ‘anti-vaxxers’ if we don’t want to take it
Found this on the DARPA website
DARPA’s Early Investment in COVID-19 Antibody Identification Producing Timely Results
DARPA’s Pandemic Prevention Platform (P3) program, launched in 2017, focuses on rapid discovery, characterization, production, testing, and delivery of efficacious DNA- and RNA-encoded medical countermeasures against infectious disease. This foundational technology pioneered by DARPA under the Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT) program provides the body with instructions on how to immediately begin producing protective antibodies against a given threat. Just two years into a four-year program, P3 has performers at AbCellera Biologics, AstraZeneca, Duke University, and Vanderbilt University, all of whom have been able to quickly pivot to rapidly identify antibodies for COVID-19 in less than 90-days. This process traditionally takes several years to complete.
So US military been financing how to do RNA vaccines for a few years now:
https://www.darpa.mil/program/pandemic-prevention-platform
I submitted the following FOI to my local nhs trust
Since 1st January 2020 until 26th November 2020 how many notifications under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 and the Health Protection (Notification) Regulations 2010 have been submitted by UHL medical staff?
I have received the answer today, they cannot tell me as they don’t keep records. They referred me to PHE, where the NOIDS reports show in the hundreds for the whole of England and Wales.
So in other words there aren’t aren’t any. The whole crisis is founded on misinformation or rather on
no information as ot is not collected. Key data which is crucial to the present is finger in the air calculation.
Hopefully a helpful tip. It is often worth speaking with the organisation information officers before placing a FOI. Part of their job is to ensure FOI are submitted in the correct way, that is, they are public services who happen to be employed by the council/NHS etc. Speaking to them about the question you want to ask can guide the question to a more effective wording and also cut out rejections. If you go through all of that and still get a fob off you know there is rotten corruption at nhs/council/gov officer level.
I appreciate these days it is nigh on impossible to speak to anyone in public services.
The whole foi system is a joke, if they don’t want to tell you, they just don’t keep records….
Rishi dished out burgers for free in August.
In November he dished out £10,000 per house for insulation. How’s that recovery coming on? Nikla Fishlips didn’give Scottish homes £10,000 for a green recovery she gave nothing. Housing is a devolved issue.
Who’s going to ‘recover’ first.
Wow. They’ve drummed up a whole new mutation via South Africa. Anyone with the new strain will be “quarantined”. I shudder to think what that means.
(I’m watching the briefing in a fit of masochism)
I’ve been calling this fascism for a while. It quite clearly is
Anyone who has returned from SA in the last 14 days told to isolate.
If they arrived 10-14 days ago, would they not have shown symptoms by now??
Good news! We are vaccinating Chealsea Pensioners.
Could I care any less???
Who’s ‘we’ and do they consent?
We – Wancock
More of the east and south east of England will enter the toughest Tier 4 restrictions on Boxing Day, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has announced. (BBC)
Breaking news – 15th January 2021 – Tier 6 is NOT enough says Hancock as mutant #15 is announced and ready to run.
Tiers will be introduced by the hour at this rate!
Happy Christmas from Handjob who just announced tier 4 for more of the South-East from Boxing day. More tier 3s and Cornwall and Herefordshire up to 2.
From 00:01 on Boxing Day, Sussex, Oxfordshire, Suffolk, Norfolk and Cambridgeshire, those parts in Essex not already in tier four, Waverley in Surrey, and Hampshire – including Portsmouth and Southampton but with the exception of the New Forest – will be escalated to tier four.
Bristol, Gloucestershire, Somerset (including the North Somerset area), Swindon, the Isle of Wight, the New Forest and Northamptonshire, as well as Cheshire and Warrington, will be escalated to tier three.
Cornwall and Herefordshire will be escalated to tier two.
I’ve just come back from the near future, this is the headline:
From 00:01 on Easter Sunday all areas under Tier 6 will move to complete lockdown with ALL shops closed. Food parcels will be distributed once every week by the military but only to those that have been vaccinated. Anybody not exempt from leaving their home will face an instant £1000 fine or 1 year imprisonment. Anybody who refuses to comply will be shoot dead. Those already not vaccinated have a further 3 weeks to do so, failure to comply will result in you being taken to an isolation centre where not only will you be given the vaccine but you will also be fined £3000.
In order to better control the virus all persons will have their finger prints and DNA taken this will help with track and trace.
In other news: The learning of Mandarin will to be compulsory for all.
khl, I am so sorry.
And of course all the other people who will suffer after this announcement.
I will be now in Tier 4 after tier 2. and I am so sorry for my neighbours, who have a chain of 5 pubs, and will be unlikely to sustain them. They just finished installing a new roof and heating lamps today.
With you KH. Now also I. Tier 4 from 2 and assuming all international travel banned so another wave of cancellations, repaid earnings and no sales. Council say I can sell holidays for further ahead so no grant. Going to get thoroughly shitfaced tonight and get the air rifle out to shoot targets with certain faces on them.
I upticked you for the shooting part.
So sorry for the other part.
From change.org
This Christmas, thousands of NHS staff will be working on the frontline. Some of them are having to pay for parking at the hospital they work at. Petition starter Daren is calling on the Government to support NHS staff by abolishing car parking fees for them across the UK. So far hundreds of thousands of people have signed his petition – will you support frontline workers this Christmas by signing?
Several points to make here.
We had a parking permit that we paid for, this was for the local NCP car park, at Leicester Royal Infirmary, if we needed to go to the other sites we had to pay and display if it wasn’t a regular occurrence.
because they are worth it. . We need to keep them happy so they can tiktok and youtube. The other popular one is why should the pay professional registration fees, like lots of other professionally people, let the tax payer pay for that too for them. They should get everything for free yay. Please Dominoes feed them too they need it, desperately.
Have no sympathy, the NHS is not fit for purpose . My son was refused treatment at one hospital 2 weeks ago and another hospital gave him a food supplement to keep him going for a week. I’m not sure what was supposed to happen at the end of that week. Well yesterday he collapsed, malnourished, exhausted and dehydrated. We told them this would happen by Christmas if he was not treated. This could all have been avoided. So now he’s in over Christmas because people in two hospitals couldn’t do their job properly. And, icing on the cake, they’d given him an outpatients appointment in mid January. When clearly he’d be dead by then.
So sorry to hear that. Sending my best wishes to you – I hope he’s back home with you soon
stop outsourcing the car parks for profit?
Hancock now says there are two cases of another new variant in the UK.
Both are contacts of cases who have travelled from South Africa.
“We are incredibly grateful to the South African government for their science,” he says.
“This virus is yet more transmissible and appears to have mutated further than the new virus.”
He says the UK is quarantining new cases, and placing restrictions on travel from South Africa.
Anyone who has been in South Africa in the past fortnight and anyone who is a close contact of someone who has been in South Africa in the last fortnight must quarantine immediately, he says.
Interesting on the BBC this morning the correspondent in South Africa said this strain was much less deadly than the original and the SA government had no plan to go back to the harsh shutdown of March.
Matt didn’t get the memo?
Yes there are at least 4 Corona colds (that they know of)
Probably more “mystery” Coronas as well
Batman flu, works in mysterious ways
What absolute garbage!
I’m old enough to remember the days when border controls were all xenophobic & racist…!
More areas enter Tier 2Hancock said Cornwall and Herefordshire will go into Tier 2. from 00.01 on Boxing Day.
More areas of England enter Tier 3Bristol, Gloucestershire, Somerset, Swindon, Isle of Wight, New Forest, Northamptonshire, Cheshire and Warrington will go into Tier 3, Hancock announced.
More areas will enter Tier 4 from Boxing DayHancock has announced Essex, Norfolk, Sussex, Surrey, Oxfordshire and Hampshire will enter Tier 4 restrictions from Boxing Day.
Well, well Essex and Norfolk, but not Suffolk that’s bang in the middle of the two counties…who’ll be spending Christmas in Suffolk?
Suffolk as well
Found this dating back to march 2020, a testimony from a RAND Corporation to the US House of Representatives on the impact Coronavirus might have on smalls and medium size businesses in China and the supply chain:
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/testimonies/CT500/CT524/RAND_CT524.pdf
A good quote is:
Recommendations:
One thing that was certainly NOT done and still hasn’t been done properly, that document our idiots put together recently was a complete joke.
An this:
Our lot pumping up the fear and hysteria.
Couldn’t be more 1984!
The cock is acting like some power crazed villain from a bond film.
I was thinking more of Michael Corleone, this whole thing is looking more like a Godfather, Mafia protection racket. We are all suffering and paying for protection against a disease which is of little concern for most people, if we do not buy into the protection scheme we will be hit by enormous legally dodgy fixed penalty notices and just to make sure we know they mean business they will destroy our jobs and our pubs with a threat of worse to come unless we conform.
Now for the emetic:
”Hancock now delivers a series of thank yous including to those who work in the NHS and scientists helping to deliver the vaccine.
“I know how hard 2020 has been for everybody,” he says.
“We mustn’t give up now,” he says adding “we must suppress the virus until a vaccine can make us safe.”
“There are brighter skies ahead.””
Really. They are able to just make up virus’s to keep us locked down. We need to stay strong and fight back.
Thought I was making (slow) progress with some friends then this arrived:-
“Wonder how safe our deliveries really are. According to most experts the risk so far has been very low. Lets hope it stays that way with new variant, if not there’s a lot more trouble and cleaning on the way”
I’ve come to the conclusion that the pro-lockdown brigade will only change their mind when they are directly and severely effected i.e. not just the inconvenience of wearing a mask and their kids being home more, but seriously impacted i.e. they or a loved one: needs cancer treatment or dies from something treatable, they lose their job and can’t get another, they can’t pay the mortgage etc.
It’s inconvenient that their kids are at home more and for many people no longer having to commute is actually a blessing. It’s only when they really feel the impact on them and their livelihoods and/or health that this will change.
And Sunak has kicked that into the long grass with furlough extended til April.
Yep the effects of unemployment has yet to be felt by many. Suddenly when car sales drop, or people no longer buying insurance or choosing food over internet. Then all these people working from home thinking they are safe may well find they’re out of a job. No doubt they will blame the non facemask wearers and unemployed beach goers for their fate.
I am also wondering if falling tax revenues will cause a change of direction within government at the end of January, or gain some traction in the media, when company and self-employed tax payments are due.
I will be writing a letter to HMRC claiming damages for the destruction of my business when I get my tax demand. Won’t get me anywhere but will set the scene for the conversation to follow about actual payment. £5 a week perhaps.
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2020/12/22/who-changes-definition-of-herd-immunity/
Here it is again for those who missed it – a blow against The Great Barrington Declaration and all believers in natural immunity.
From this day forward only vaccination can save us…
They are memory holing our history.
And @ John P – pure coincidence such a thing on the eve of the European vaccine approval ya…?
I have a new person for the list
Journalist at 15.32 missed to read her name
Have you missed putting more people into more severe restrictions? Should you have acted earlier?
For f sake, they increased tiers 3!! times in 7 days. What else do you want?
Just turned on Talk Radio hoping for the half hour news and heard that. It took me five minutes to work out that they had gone over to yet another press announcement – I am programmed not to recognise Hancock’s voice but realised it wasn’t Mark Dolan etc. Press conferences and new changes at the drop of a hat, more frequent than the buses, this one had not even been rumoured at midday. Oh well, no sneaking down to Yateley to get out of tier 4…
Update: she’s from the BBC.
Of course!!
While the number of cases attributable to the old variant is holding steady or tailing off in some areas, Dr Harries says there has been a very sharp rise in cases of the new variant.
This is translating into rising pressures on hospitals, she says.
The number of hospital beds currently occupied by Covid patients across England is nearing April’s peak of about 21,000, Dr Harries says, including in London.
By what method are they discovering this new variant and how many people have been infected by it so far? Horse feathers.
Wancock: “”This Christmas, and the start of 2021 is going to be tough new variant makes everything a lot harder, because it spreads, so much faster. ”
Is this just pure bullshit or is there any hard evidence to support his claim?
Pure bullshit, no evidence. More testing, especially of children ahead of Christmas, equals more ‘cases’. Meanwhile deaths peaked on 18 November and have been trending down, and numbers on mechanical ventilation beds is pretty stable.
thats beds, they may or may not be connected to anything, they may just be in the covid zone, so anyone ‘with’ covid could be in there
It’s BS of course because WHO Said they had been tracking this since Septembet and there was no evidence that it transmitted any faster than the one now and they were not concerned about it. Lying once again.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-variant-south-africa-spread/
Just found this.
“South Africa’s health minister, Zweli Mkhize, said that the new variant there appeared to be linked to higher rates of severe illness in younger people, and that scientists are working to learn more about it.”
Jointly incompetent.
Jointly opportunistic and shamelessly manipulative and dishonest.
There is no evidence
I watched a documentary the other week about an Australian man who lost all his limbs to sepsis. His bravery was quite something. I would imagine he now feels especially grateful he didn’t get covid. He might have got a cough or no symptoms.
Everything really feels even more insane when you compare it to brave people from the past. Have you ever read about Alistair Urquhart?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_Urquhart
Wow. All I can say is thank goodness he didn’t get covid.
Good news!
At the beginning of the press conference 1 in 3 had corona without knowing and spreading it, he just said 1 in 4!
Fantastic! It will have disappeared by this time tomorrow.
Must be exponential!
1 in 3, 1 in 4, 1 in 66,000,000 – what does it matter? Objective facts (what we used to call reality before it was “shared”) count for nothing in the post-truth world.
Am hearing a Brexit deal’s been done. Anyone else picked up anything?
Sort of, but in such a way that Parliament may not need to be recalled yet
If I had known brexit would lead to Boris and North Korea I would have voted remain.
Cnuts on msm calling for Christmas Day ban. God help us, just what DO these people want? Balls and chains on the people plus welded doors and windows?
I am wondering that too
As I said the other day, and unfortunately this isn’t a joke: ultimately they’ll call for extermination of the non-compliant whom they believe are causing all the problems, in order to “save” everyone else.
In keeping with the spirit of the times I can recommend ‘ Who took the Merry Out of Christmas ‘ by the Staple Singers.
Retailers of the Year- Daunt Books who having rigged up a system so you can purchase a book from outside as they have the door open and a table barring entry asked me why wasn’t wearing a mask – I replied that as I could read I knew it was pointless.
Prediction for next year- Ferguson, Witless and Unbalanced are promoted as celebrities by BBC and appear on ‘Strictly come Dancing ‘- voting rigged to ensure one of them wins.
Can these cunts just leave us alone for ONE fucking day?
No. Because they “care” so much, y’see.
Apparently not. Bastards.
No, they have to perpetuate the fear factor.
Photographer Anthony Carbajal has advanced ALS (otherwise known as motor neurone disease or Lou Gherigs disease). During his illness he lost use of all his limbs and most of his body, and he lost his wife. Yet he maintained a positive outlook and continued to take wonderful pictures for as long as he could. Thank goodness I didn’t get that long covid he said. You can get a bit tired with that. Must be awful.
Stay strong. Don’t give up. You are a role model for most of us
How can they or anyone still rely on the FRAUD that is the RT -PCR TEST ? and the Vx is not our way out of this It should be avoided
Jesus was tortured, mocked, and beaten and Roman soldiers place a crown of thorns on his head. He likely was bleeding profusely before even being nailed to the cross. Forgive them father he said, not only do they not know what they have done. But it could be worse. Could have got covid. He said. Always look on the bright side of life he added.
Life’s a piece of shit, when you look at it.
K. I too stayed away for a while after being called a liar and a shill. I won’t post anything now about what’s happening in my family or what my personal beliefs are because I don’t want to provoke that level of nastiness again.
Here in Priti Central we went into Tier 4 straight away last Saturday.
Your posts have always been interesting and the voice of reason from a small business owner. I’m truly sorry that tier 4 has now reached you also.
I don’t know what the consequences could be if you stayed open. I would guess there would be safety in numbers but from what you have been saying before I think you are surrounded by bed wetters and collaborators?
Steph, kh1485,
don’t let yourselves be intimidated by anything said by anyone here.
I – and I am sure most here – look forward to your contributions.
Nil carborundum illegitimum! Don’t let the b**tards grind you down! I admire your stand for common sense enormously.
Wancock keeps saying the vaccine goes into people’s arms.
So it does not work if they stick the needle into another body part?
I was talking to god earlier. He wish he had thought of this vaccination thing. 4.5 billion years old our planet. Life has existed on it for about 3.5 billion years. Modern humans for about 200,000 years. Some 7 billion people on the planet. Africa’s population has trebled since LiveAid. The first vaccine was developed 220 years ago. God feels he really dropped a ball. He just came up with this amazing immune system when all he really needed to do was create Bill and Melinda Gates.
I said.. cheer up God. Your amazing engineering has cured us creatures of lots of plagues. Don’t get me started he said. I wasted all that time punishing the pharoe with frogs and locusts and boils. I could just have given them covid. No symptoms or a cough would have shown ’em. Released those Israelites he said. Oooooo ooo the Israelites I said.
He was inconsolable. Wasn’t the right time to ask for a lottery win.
Love it!!
Be careful, God has an impish sense of humour. You’re likely to get the numbers for a draw a century from now.
So sorry, kh. I am back to having no idea if my business will survive – I know so many others have already succumbed and I am lucky to have been able to trade over the last 4 months. I am fighting against the feeling of being crushed under it all. I too have wondered what happened to the brave souls who defied closure, but have no idea how to find out.
We definitely do give a shit and I wish I could offer you something more than the promise of ongoing solidarity! Your posts have always been a tremendous source of strength and inspiration for me.
kh, you are so unlucky to be e posed to so many nasty people. Thet aren’t all like that, really they’re not. I recommend dog walkers, joggers and similar folk for a higher sanity ratio.
As fir the nasty knicker brigade, some of us keep a copy of the laworfiction advice on the anti-discrimination laws and flourish it in their faces. I’ve never actually had to use it. I know some people have and it’s worked.
Businesses in Wales have been brutal,y fined. I don’t know if they pay up. Why businesses don’t get together to oppose this tyranny simply escapes me. Us LSs would queue up to fund them, you may be sure.
Don’t let it get you down. We are here. We will get through it.
Bullshit Extravaganza!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55428953
They will only be happy when millions commit suicide out of complete despair, and those remaining start dying off from untreated cancer, heart disease, stroke etc. It is fairly obvious that too many people were getting complacent and starting to question the narrative, then wham, another new strain comes out of the ether. Evil bastards.
‘New strain’ from South Africa now. These twats just can’t leave us alone. They are really scraping the barrel now. They are realising that the fear wears off after a few weeks and they need to keep coming up with new shit to keep people frightened and compliant. Hence ‘mutant’ – scary word coming from government’s rotten nudge unit, of course.
Gosh amazing virus travels across hemispheres!
New supersonic, nuclear-powered, double-envenomed, GPS guided virus with twice the number of knobbly bits making its way from Covid central in Gauteng province. But don’t worry – the same vaccine will fix it.
I do wonder if it has learnt about quantum entanglement and is teleporting past the face masks. Maybe facemasks made from heavy metals will save us.
I’m sure Matt has anticipated these possibilities.
This is all about creating demand for the vaccine. The plan is to vaccinate millions per week from January with the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, which is going to be approved by the MHRA next week. It’s not an mRNA type, so there are no supply chain limitations as with the Pfizer one.
I can foresee the case numbers being deliberately reduced during this critical vaccine rollout phase to give the impression that it is working. Perhaps by a reduction in PCR test cycles or extensively using the LFT instead.
Then, once enough people have had at least one shot, and can be assimilated into the immunity passport programme, the door will be slammed shut for good. Those who refuse will be excluded from society in perpetuity.
To be excluded from the sort of society I see around me now, and from that which is urged upon us from every BBC programme . is probably less of a threat than some might imagine.
I could not agree more. I will lose my job over this, and be unemployable thereafter, but am unconcerned. This world can go to hell, I want no part of it.
Set up our own alternative society.
Which is one reason to resist those here and elsewhere who want to censor the international conspiracy theory. Where this is headed is more important than what it is.
When Johnson said we will be living in a “very different world” by Easter I take this very seriously indeed. How I would love to be proven wrong, but I’m afraid the catastrophic descent of our society in 2020 has made me more cynical than ever.
I have no problem with being criticised for being a conspiracy theorist. The burden of proof is on my side, always. I have remained courteous in all my exchanges on here regardless of what has been said. Also, I can understand why these conversations have occasionally degenerated into vitriolic attacks. People are losing it, we are all under a great deal of psychological pressure and need to let off steam somehow.
Cynicism and scepticism are two different things. I’d like to see your theory proven wrong too – for the same reasons I expect you hope for also, this isn’t a personal attack – but I do question its strategic aim. This is the major problem I have with the “internationalist” conspiracy. It makes no strategic sense.
You don’t need to accept any conspiracy theory to refuse the vaccine.
No, but. If we’re dealing with mere incompetence, things will eventually return to normal. If we’re dealing with an agenda, things may never return to normal.
As I’ve said before, if the public realised they were being done a deliberate injury, they would rebel. The propaganda agencies are vigorously suppressing any such idea. Why? Given that the Reset, UBI, CCCP-style social credit, censorship and voter fraud have been ‘around’ for a while now, there are strong reasons to suspect a conspiracy.
What you say is true: I will refuse the vaccine on a number of grounds which do not involve a conspiracy. 1. The use of foetal cell line material. 2. Opposition to animal experiments. 3. Possible adverse reaction and 4. Little probable difference – in terms of symptoms and immunity – between accepting the vaccine or contracting the disease.
I will also refuse it for ‘conspiracy’ reasons. Gates has a bad reputation in Africa and India. I am suspicious of big Pharma. The Pfizer vaccine amounts to genetic engineering. It contains nano-particles. It may be linked to a digital ID system, which may be linked to accessing finance and society.
You are free to disagree of course. But I am also free to express my opinion.
WHY are they so desperate to vaccinate us?
At the most basic level, for profit and power. One can hardly argue that these are unusual motivations.
Granted, but excluding a significant number of potential customers makes your “slamming the door shut” theory implausible.
The more bollocks like this that the government comes out with, the less people will listen as it all sounds too ridiculous. I hear the monster raving loony virus is heading for Westminster.
Totally agree!
That was quick – now we have the Teenage Mutant Ninja Virus Part 2.
Not sure if it has been mentioned but xmas no 1 for 2020?
Sausage roll version available for the children..
Jeez.. he’s an ugly bastard ain’t he!
Not all there, is he?
Quinn Blakey hairdressers still posts on Instagran
Looks like she’s still open
a tad conspiratorial in some of her posts but she is standing up to the Coronatarians
Wtf! The South African mutant Ninja virus?
Enough, already.
What’s next? The croissant virus from France?
The didgerdoo virus from Australia?
How many times did he say “South Africa”?
What the fuck.
Why don’t they just put everyone in tier 4? Two reasons. Firstly something akin to a national lockdown will bring more pressure for a parliamentary vote and secondly having a complex and dynamic regional system helps give the impression they are in control and using sophisticated science beyond the capabilities of the proles to understand. It’s all show.
But a parliamentary vote would go through easily since Starmer always backs restrictions and the majority of conservative MPs will also feel they have to back it because of the terrible new mutant strain.
Yes, but the longer a vote can be delayed, the longer proles like us will focus on demanding one.
Also divide and rule. If you are good you may be given more privileges (move down a tier foe awhile)
And we can’t afford it. We just can’t.
Sorry to hear about your suffering. I can relate
There are some Twitter accounts that might help:
Simon Dolan (Keep Britain Free)
Francis Hoar (legal)
Law or Fiction (legal but not user friendly)
Leah Butler-Smith (some legal connections)
I would just say to customers that if your business is closed down it won’t be because the virus closed it down, it will be because politicians closed it down
I hope things improve
Tier 4 for me which means my job is fooked. Someone step on my head with football boots.
Please don’t give up. Don’t let them destroy your spirit Ricky
Hang in there, Ricky. Lots of us feeling the same. Will save the stepping on heads for those deserving of it, if you don’t mind. Don’t have any football boots, but high heels might do the job.
Katie Hopkins going both barrels on Instagram and Parler
I’ll take allies from all sides at this point
Katie Hopkins on Parler.
Katie Hopkins on Instagram.
Its funny she worshipped Johnson for a long time…..good to see she now sees him for the shit that he is. Doesn’t say too much for her judgment though…its been clear for years he was a lying shit.
Press conferences by the criminally insane for the criminally insane
New target before 2022.
The last question comes from Arj Singh from HuffPost. He asks if, given the highly-transmissible new variant, the government is guilty of overpromising by suggesting the UK can return to normality by Easter.
Hancock replies that he is “highly confident we will get things back to normal before 2022” adding that the speed of the vaccine roll-out is accelerating.
And that is the final question. Hancock wishes everyone a happy Christmas before leaving the lectern.
FFS. It was three weeks to ‘flatten the curve’ then it was to be over by Christmas then it was Easter now it’s 2022.
I think I spot a pattern here.
Exponential growth. Weeks, then months, now years, then it’ll be decades. Back to normal by 2032.
From Australia:
https://www.desmogblog.com/joanne-nova
I do like Jo Nova but she is a bit of a Corona moaner with regards to the bat cold
She has also of late become obsessed with the US election – less interesting to many people
A few of us have had this in the last week, seems to have taken somewhat of a downturn here.
I enjoy your posts from the frontline and your defiance, but the crap does get to you. I am up and down all the time and it’s very wearying.
There are people who understand and sympathise, please keep posting for us
Firstly, kh, let me say I’m glad you’re back and are managing to put Sunday behind you.
I wish I could offer something more than moral support. What about KBF and its forums or the forums here? Is there any advice and support available there?
Keep fighting in your own way and stay strong. The world needs the good ones, now more than ever.
The BEST Christmas Song EVER!! OK I exaggerate but it’s a fantastic message to send to our woeful leaders:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9079829/Boris-Johnson-F-ing-C-t-unlikely-contender-Christmas-number-one.html
Buy it here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Boris-Johnson-Fucking-Single-Explicit/dp/B08Q8S8JBD/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=boris+johnson+is+a&qid=1608740103&quartzVehicle=842-813&replacementKeywords=boris+johnson+a&sr=8-2
For more info:
http://borisjohnson.info/
I’ve done my bit, it’s over to you guys now… Just think of Top of the Pops announcing the Christmas Number 1 though…
Arnie.
They should have included Wancock as well, at least once.
It’s nice to see Kunt & the Gang doing well
Remember all his old songs from the heydays of the free internet
Best 79 pence I’ve ever spent.
Number two last I checked, a few minutes ago.
Just looked at the other contender, what a shite!
Whose normal? Following what criteria? His? Buzz off Matt!
“AI controlled pharma-fascist eco-poverty powered technocracy”
Wonderful stuff, you’ve condensed it all into a short phrase. Nothing more needs to be said really.
Ready Player One ?
I’m sorry to hear you’re suffering. If it’s any comfort I find your dogged determination an inspiration, truly.
Public Health writ large.
It’s a monstrous, pitiless, cult.
“Mr Hancock says, he is “highly confident that we’ll get things back to normal before 2022.”
That’s alright then. Only 12 months to go. A mere bagatelle!
I thought things were going to back to normal this Christmas
I don’t think he mentioned which Christmas.
I thought it was 3 weeks to flatten the curve
Its’ ok – I will be hibernating during 2021 planning to re-emerge Jan 2022 all being well.
I fear he means December 2022.
If I were were a sailor, it would be the perfect time to take a yacht for a long solo sail. Maybe the Atlantic or Mediterranean.
No news, just sea and boating.
Well, well, who’d have thought it eh!
Loophole means Boris Johnson can spend Christmas with family in Tier 4
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/tier-4-loophole-over-christmas-6866518
If The New European (Union) reports it, it must be true!
Spot on Patrick.. people thinking Johnson is anything other than a fully paid up Globalist Brussel-sprout are deluding themselves.
Talk about a blast from the past, I haven’t been on that website this year.
I was banned in their Facebook page. I think it’s cos I told them they were fascist, racist, hypocrites.
I wish it was 2019.
Me too
What, you want to go through all this again?
I don’t, I wish it was 2022 when this shambles is over.
I have a horrible feeling if we let WC et al to continue it won’t be by 2022.
My niece, in her xmas card to me, has said she hoped 2021 would be better that 2020 – that makes me want to weep frankly!
I’m fearful that this is just the start and it’s not going away anytime soon. Why doesn’t someone in govt with half a moral call out these maniacs?
GMC
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As each vaccine is approved, it will be rolled out in phases.
The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has published updated advice on the groups who should be prioritised for vaccination. This states that residents in care homes, care home workers, those aged 80 years and over, and health and social care workers are expected to be amongst the first to receive the vaccine.
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In all cases, doctors should familiarise themselves with our Decision making and consent guidance, in particular the seven principles and paragraphs 21-26 on discussing benefits and harms and uncertainties with their patients.
For adult patients who lack capacity, paragraphs 87-93 of our Decision making and consentguidance explains the ethical basis and process for treatment decisions. It also covers the differences that apply in Scotland.
Looks a bit like a potato. Should he be roasted, fried or mashed?
Boiled.
ITALY – ‘Conte made a coup d’état’
‘This is the sentence of the Civil Court of Rome. The Italian PM Conte didn’t have the power to enforce an emergency state due to Covid. Basically, the judges said that Conte made a coup d’état. This has been possible because all the Italian institutions are complicit in the coup.’
https://twitter.com/CesareSacchetti/status/1341732465786949638?s=20
It won’t end any restrictions though, will it?
We have seen a few court decision “our way”, but sadly they had no effect.
So are we all Tier 4 now?
No.
Basically yes.
They said we should all behave as if we are, or we’ve got the virus (so 10 days isolating, and if we had no symptoms, assume we were asymptomatic) so logically the shit show is over on the 4th January.
Behave as if I’ve got a virus, no thanks!! I’ve got a party for 16 on the 27th
I hosted a corona party in April. Quite successful, had 2 infections (a hand puppet mouse and stuffed rabbit)
That’s good. Have a great time. Life must go on despite the lunatics.
Carry on as normal.
(Sage advice from Dr Nick Rose, RS Turbo, VD & Scar, WC & Chain)
Oh, I wish.
That’s it – my insanity-o-meter has blown again. This device protects me from the unfolding madness but it has run out of capacity again. I have upgraded it several times this year but now it’s gone past “peak madness”. I hope someone can help with this – how do I programme levels above “peak”. This is urgent. If I can’nae fix it, she’s gonna blow.
Sounds to me that you need a twin-cylinder variant.
Treating it regularly with alcohol provides immediate respite, but in doing so you will be running the risk of irreparably damaging the device.
https://twitter.com/spencermorgan93/status/1341781302194925568?s=20
So the law will be changed to reflect the new rules. How can they just, by a stroke of the pen, enact this? Why not just give themselves Christmas bonuses while at it?
Deaths within 28 days of positive test by date of death shows a very different picture to the deaths within 28 days of positive test by date reported.
No prizes for guessing which one is used in fear figures
Sarigan
And funnily enough the count has never been above 500…
Today’s count includes at least one death from 19 April. Yesterday’s included at least one from 2 July.
Touched it there NN, I’ve never seen so many thumbs-up for a post here before.
We’ve gone from Tier 2 to 4 because the f****g hospital is under pressure. No end date was given either.
Under pressure from the free pizza deliveries, rather than admissions.
120 people died in Bucks in – 9 months (out of a population of almost a million). All were in end of life care. More died of regular colds this year
7 admissions per day. 3 on ICU.
And these stats give us tier 4. And ‘it isn’t enough’. These people are fucking mental
Brilliant podcast by Professor Vincent Racaniello on the update page, and I take my hat off to him. It raises the question of who appointed Neil Ferguson to NERVTAG, a man whose modelling has been shown to be flawed time and time again. Whoever was responsible for that appointment is either incompetent or engaged in a conspiracy. I suspect the latter.
Revolving door. Standard practice throughout public sector management.
Same time as his friend Blair pops back into the news banging on about having everyone tested
‘Unherd’ interviews conducted by Freddy Sayers have been very informative over the last few months, so I was massively disappointed in his ‘on the one hand and on the other’ article about John Giesecke v. Ferguson. As if the two were opposite sides of a scientific debate.
They aren’t that at all – the weight of forecast against reality shows how massively wrong Ferguson has been, whilst Giesecke’s approach has been shown to broadly accord with ow things work.
Yes, Freddie has been a disappointment. He’s not a very good interviewer to begin with – easy questions – and he’s been getting steadily worse with his articles. Not much critical thinking going on. He used to be with YouGov.
Wancock said 690 deaths yesterday was so bad, especially at xmas.
2000 people a day die, you idiot!
And there will be 2000 deaths on the 25th!, which most likely will include a significant number of suicides.
I wouldn’t mind if there was a genuine deadly virus going around the UK killing millions but there isn’t. It’s the abuse of pure unadulterated power. This country s well and truly fucked well and truly. No hope for an economic recovery now. Businesses won’t survive this. 8m unemployed by Summer. Three deranged scientists one idiot of a Prime Minister and one power mad Secretary of State for Health. It’s down to the British public now.
8 million unemployed might be an optimistic projection.
Yesterday’s number included deaths from 2 July. Today’s included deaths from 19 April. Where are they finding these deaths?
Same with +test reporting with the RKI. Every day they list at least 1 from March and the other months.
Sorry, run that one past me again. I thought deaths had to be within 28 days of testing positive?
Not to mention overdose from drugs or alcohol.
To paraphrase Marvin the Martian: “This is making me angry. Very, very angry!”
Just had my teenage daughter on the phone in tears because the one single thing she had left to look forward to, going to the gym, has just been ripped away from her.
I truly hope those responsible rot in hell.
How stupid is shutting gyms? Total number of under 60’s dying of or with CCP VIRUS in good health 371, most of those health workers. So stop people looking after themselves in winter, really clever Hancock you scummer.
Get fat, not fit. Genius!
Bless her. My son spends half his life in the gym. With the gyms closed in Wales, he’s taken up running now, and enjoying it, and does his gym routines at home where he can (lots of skipping in the garden!). The gyms need to revolt and open up, like that fella did in Liverpool. Where’s their spirit!
From the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/23/us-healthcare-worker-deaths-covid-19-pandemic
You can make of that what you will.
From the CDC in the US:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/healthcareworkers.htm
And you can make of that what you will as well.
The reason I suggested that you make of both these quotes what you will is that they suggest a causality. But that is not proven (i.e. it may just be a correlation due to say greater exposure). Having said that, I would like to see it researched further. Any comments, positive or otherwise would be appreciated.
Solidarity kh, nothing much else I can say.
And like that. It’s the final kick in the bollocks.
Holy Fucking Christ. These cabal of c*unts have no shame, humanity or compassion.
Even Johnson swerved this one. Bet he was able to travel to Chequers for the “Festive season” (( CHRISTMAS YOU BUNCH OF PRICKS ))
All the lies in the world don’t add up to the truth.
I’m out till the new year. When I will never again be part of this hypocritical society. No rules anymore. I am done with it.
I didn’t follow most of the posts on Sunday so I didn’t realise you had been abused by some arsehole on here and I’m sorry to hear about it Kh.Considering the FSU is often mentioned on here,freedom of speech appears to be slipping away.
Regarding businesses staying open,I suggested that in my area that all pubs etc should agree to open and support each other and also chip a few quid into a mutual fighting fund so any of them could draw on it to pay any fines,some agreed it might work but worried about ending up being the sacrificial lamb when others chickened out.
Despite our local media confidently crowing for days now that Lincolnshire would go into insanity level 4 because we are all bad people,it didn’t happen.In a twisted way I’d hoped it would,it might just have woken some of the idiots around here up,it’s all just part of the pantomime anyway,the whole of England will be in level 4,5,6 or wtf ever in a couple of weeks.
Some ‘scientist’ friend of mine said the evenings get longer from yesterday.
I had the bbq, hawaian shirt, few beers. It was freezing and dark before 4pm! ‘Experts’. No way am I taking a vaccine
Johnson, stop saving lives, by killing lives. Too many people are dying from your paranoia and belief in your medical charlatans.
There is no way he can possibly believe he is doing the right thing now. There is no way that he can believe what he is saying.
We can’t know for sure, but yes it would stretch credibility, especially as he was prepared to sign off on a do-nothing approach until he bottled it
I’m not so sure. He must be lying to himself constantly in order to keep lying to us without missing a beat. Has he ever had any grasp on reality?
But he has often missed beats. His lies are not flawless. When tying himself in knots he just smirks.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/23/no-excuses-nicola-sturgeon-apologises-for-breaching-covid-rules
Tut, tut-
The Sturgeonator has flouted her own rules.
further to what we all hope will be the Xmas #1 “Boris Johnson is a f****** c***”
Just found this for the classical music buffs . (from last xmas but still relevant)
Boris Johnson is a lying shit
WONDERFUL!!!
I bought the punk song last night and have found myself singing ‘Boris Johnson is a Cucking Funt’ most of the day. It’s very catchy.
Excellent
Granny and grandad managed to escape from Gulag Wales today and travel up to the Midlands to visit grandkids, daughter and s-i-l. Weather was, and still is, atrocious – flooding like I’ve not seen in this country for a long time. No Stasi presence at all, either side of the border (weather might have put them off). Plenty of traffic still coming into the Gulag, but less going out.
I breached movement rules today and got a bit nervous when I was followed by a police van for half a mile or so, but even if they were checking out of tier plates with ANPR they obviously weren’t stopping people.
They were probably popping out for doughnuts and face nappies
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The paper I read estimated 15 million life-years from a 2008 scale recession (3 months on average off everyone)
worst case scenario was 5 million life years from covid (500,000 people, 10 years each) – a wild ‘ferguson’ overestimate
Posted earlier by Swedenborg, this shows definitively that there is no pandemic of respiratory disease.
Show this to covidians:
McCarthyism lasted four years.
Remind me, when is the next general election?
The difference is that McCarthy was right.
exactly
By the way.
I shan’t be wishing anybody a Merry Christmas this year – either here or anywhere else.
To do so at this time would constitute a mockery.
Agreed. I can’t bring myself to say the words and haven’t sent one single card
“Festive Season” don’t dare say Christmas if you are in any sense not woke or have a public profile.
Same here, and if anyone dares to wish me a Happy New Year I will be giving them both barrels. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
The epicurious LS will be saddened to hear that according to the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55418184) Nigella will not be cooking a turkey this year as it is not a normal Christmas as she cannot entertain family and friends.
Sounds like she’s a typical brainwashed celeb who’s virtue signalling.
OK. Not much in buying a Nutella cookbook then….
You just need a bit of reality and the bottle to stick to it, Nigella.
…although it’s a bit more demanding than fluttering your eyelashes and making sidelong glances at the camera.
We’re conducting Christmas as normal – it’s not difficult.
Nigella was a coke head. Live on the telly…..Oh yes….
Update on one of my comments:
The journalist during today’s press conference wanting more lockdowns, or who asked if the govt was late imposing more restrictions, is from the BBC!
Quelle surprise!
Defund the BBC!!!
Anyone know anything about the Yellow Card app for reporting symptoms? The Covid vaccine consent form suggests side effects can be reported using the app.
I know you can report symptoms through the zoe kcl covid tracker
You can create a report here:
https://coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/
Standard for drug and vaccine side effect reporting, used to be physical yellow cards but not online; https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk
Euromomo charts for all cause excess deaths still showing home England & Scotland within normal bounds & NI & Wales well below average.
Thanks, I’ve just shared that. People need to realise that this is more than just an overreaction to a virus. The government cannot be seriously contemplating more lockdowns when these are the true figures.
Yeah.. well done Nick. I keep sharing this information with people along with the survival rate and at best I get just blank looks. No comment, no questioning. We really are up against something here guys. People are just totally brainwashed..
… as confirmed by the ONS weekly all-cause figures. Nothing unusual happening.
All this reminds me very much of MSM media’s reaction to austerity and the Work Capability Test and PIP Assessment. Very sick and disabled people were told they were fit to work if they could press a button or walk a few steps. The advice of their doctors and consultants were ignored and sick and disabled people went hungry and were left destitute I personally know a very sick lady who lost her home as result. The BMA estimated over 100,000 died as a result of austerity. (where was the outrage then?) The MSM (apart from occasional articles in the Guardian and Daily Mirror) never said a word and the victims portrayed as liars, cheats and a burden on society.
The pandemic has caused a temporary halt to the flawed assessments carried out by unqualified people and wildly inaccurate but the sick and disabled are terrified they will be scapegoats again once the Government starts trying to pay the covid bill.
Media manipulation and lies and unqualified people carrying out tests, sheer incompetence and complete indifference to the suffering caused is sadly nothing new. I found many people refused to believe the Government were cruel and incompetent then just as we do now.
I’ve learned never trust the Government or mainstream media. This was a shock to me when I first became aware about 12 years ago and I realised I didn’t live in a fair and just country. Sadly their covid response is just as corrupt as their treatment of the vulnerable.
130,000 deaths from austerity. 111,000 deaths/suicides from DWP assessment tests. A democide. But no one cared
I don’t believe that second figure. Where’s it from?
It’s from a disabled rights activist group freedom of request. Type ‘Atos deaths’ in Google
I have a friend with severe MS who was stripped of all his support for a year. I will never forgive or forget about that anymore than I will for Covid.
Sturgeon’s Mask-gate:
In a statement, Ms [Miss] Sturgeon said she had “briefly” removed her face mask while attending a wake, calling it a “stupid mistake”.
Addressing MSPs at Holyrood, the first minister said she wanted to express “how sorry I am for my breach of rules that I ask all of us to follow [that someone managed to photograph me]”.
Ms [Miss] Sturgeon said: “I want to be clear that regardless of the circumstances, I was in the wrong. There are no excuses, [even though masks are useless, but they help to keep you proles under control, and dehumanise you, and that can only be good].
“These rules do [not] apply to me, just as they do to everyone else, and the rules really matter [however stupid they might be].
“I am kicking myself very hard – possibly harder than my worst critic ever could – but more importantly I’ll be making sure I don’t drop my guard again [and so make sure those rogue elements of the normally compliant MSM don’t catch me].”
She knew exactly what she was doing. She’s on the TV everyday lecturing the ruled about the rules. It was no mistake, it was done deliberately, and probably an actikn repeardd in similar situations many times before. She’s said countless times the rules are there to protect lives, to ensure people’s lives aren’t put in danger. So she must accept by her action she carelessly took the risk of endangering other people’s lives.
She knew it was bollocks
Yep, and lets hope that at least some people cop on to that now.
Of course she does. But she’s never said that and so we judge her on what she says about the rukes and about others who break them.
Dismayed to see Emma Kenny defending Nicola Sturgeon on this one
Thats just so very believeable from the liar. So lemme get this straight… she was wearing a mask, to protect others not her self, then chose (chose not slipped/accident/dropped) chose to pop of the mask to potentially kill all grannies between here and Stromness.
How is that swiss cheese anykind of reasonable answer. As bio hazarads go sturgeon is as toxic a vector as you can get by the very nature of the job she haunts.
All above is written at the level of their fantasy world where a flat line on a graph means exponential increase, etc.
I still felt as though I was the one getting the telling-off; is it the accent? Her manner? The face like Dot Cotton licking piss off a nettle (thanks, Dot Wordsworth)
Boris said, in defence of his decisions, if he makes the wrong move thousands could die.
Well here’s 26,250 of them locked up at home for you Boris.
Source
https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/static-reports/mortality-surveillance/excess-mortality-in-england-latest.html
Just had some unbelievably wearying texts from a woman I haven’t seen in years but who keeps in touch. She’s a good, kind person and meant well trying to cheer me up but she is set in the “the rules save lives” mindset like quicksand. It’s really depressing, in the end I had to just make an excuse and stop the conversation.
You’re allowed to speak your mind. Predicted 560,000 deaths from poverty from lockdown. Rules cause deaths
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths I think a lot of people don’t know that the government charts are interactive, you can highlight an area, or isolate a particular nation, or area by clicking & dragging. Here’s deaths since 7th Nov.
draw the line
Yes as so often a cartoon expresses this better than a 10,000 word article. We’ve got to draw a line somewhere and stick to it! Democrats on the Far Left have already been talking about putting opponents in re-education camps. After the election steal, do we really think there is a line they won’t cross?
My line was masks. Everyone has to decide what theirs is.
As WW2 illustrated, most people don’t have any lines, especially when it comes to imposing tyranny on others. The UK population hasn’t exactly stood up to state brainwashing well – the controllers probably can’t believe their luck.
My line was March and the original lockdown. Everything else since then (for me) has been a distraction from the main event.
Mine was searching for other sources of information several weeks after the lockdown began in March, 2020. And it slowly gained momentum with each new revelation.
Snap
mine was the data from the Diamond Princess. Pretty damned clear that we are NOT all susceptible and the death rate is not all that either.
My line was restrictions of any kind
My current red line was thinking this new killer virus was actually a dangerous thing. After watching all the hysteria about Ebola and Zika, I thought that there was no way this crazy over reaction to a virus could take hold here. Or in Europe and the USA.
It was obvious to me that it was just a virus that really posed very little risk to anybody in comparison to all the other risky stuff people do all the time. I didn’t think the scary bullshit would catch on. Especially in sensible old UKofA.
After “the data” came out of Italy I was certain that it didn’t poses that much of a risk to all but the old, the very unwell and a few unlucky people here and there.
I watched in horror as the terrible story started to unfold.
I think my red line was drawn years ago anyway, we are way past that.
Ben Garrison has been brilliant all year. He can sum up the entire shitshow in a handful of cartoons.
Full lockdown January. Mass testing and vaccination programme Jan-March. Seasonal respiratory virus goes away March onwards. Government claims victory of policy. It’s all so fucking predictable.
It’s the vaccine passports I’m afraid of. Tech shareholders want to see a return on their investment. The vaccines will never stop, so I predict the virus will never go away too.. And so it continues indefinitely
I tend to agree with Achilles – I don’t see them maintaining it forever, at least not at the same pitch. This is orchestrated but like music they need to alternate the tones a bit because the constant jackhammer of lockdown might eventually trigger rebellions.
No sign of rebellion in the UK, we are not even close. I foresee this system being in place for decades.
… but in the meantime, they have (despite some ignoring of the ‘rules’), induced a high state of compliance in the population.
Let us pray that it does lead to rebellions. They deserve it.
Yes, they can keep it going for years, just test lots of people and misdiagnose deaths. If people haven’t caught on yet they probably never will. In time the desired strange behaviour will become the social norm and they can wind down the operation.
I actually would not mind if that happens. I’m becoming more and more convinced that the goal is permanent lockdowns, destruction of all small businesses and hospitality/sports/churches etc, in fact anywhere where people can freely meet.
If that’s the case, armed rebellion will be our final remedy.
Hit the nail on the head. Government cant let this go without coming out of it as the saviours that’s why we’re in this farce.
Their Horror Show.
When I say government claim victory I mean the winter battle. I expect them to prolong the war for at least another year. Hancocks already talking about 2022 and that’s also when Ferguson’s model ran to. Major restrictions off and on until March 2022, some liberties lost forever.
I thought they would say that this summer. What happens when it comes back again next autumn?
I have no doubt, as governments tighten the screw and life becomes less and less tolerable, that violence, civil unrest or even revolutions may happen. I wish it was not the case, but humans can only take so much
Protests in Spain:
https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1341731701786087432?s=20
They want civil unrest, tyrannical governments such as Johnsons regime can then justify harsher measures such as military martial law and use it as an excuse to clamp down hard on any dissenters. The TSG in London certainly don’t look like the police, they are military in all but name.
Look at the way the intelligence services are using propaganda to turn the population against each other, it really is disgraceful this is happening with complete political support. They have full control of the narrative via the BBC and other state propaganda channels.
What is humanity to do when a jackboot is being continually stamped on its head?
Global noncompliance is the only tactic that will worķ.
Learn to love Big Brother?
Boris is not your friend.
The critics in Germany have taken to playing the prisoners choir from the Opera Nabucco at 9pm onto the streets. Their form of clapping.
There are also car convoys decked in slogans and with sound systems every Monday.
Viva Espagne!
Back in the day I used to play a table-top role playing game called Paranoia.
“Paranoia is a humorous role-playing game set in a dystopian future similar to Nineteen Eighty-Four, Brave New World, Logan’s Run, and THX 1138; however, the tone of the game is rife with black humor, frequently tongue-in-cheek rather than dark and heavy. Most of the game’s humor is derived from the players’ (usually futile) attempts to complete their assignment while simultaneously adhering to The Computer’s arbitrary, contradictory and often nonsensical security directives.”
It was great fun because, you know, it could never happen. Well it just has. I don’t know how Hancock kept a straight face as he introduced yet another “variant”. Actually, he didn’t. He was smirking away when asked when this would be over, because never, because he seems to love the power and comes over as a complete sociopath.
Yellow Clearance Black Box Blues.
“Do you have clearance to post on this site, Citizen?” [Kerblam! Smoking boots…]
We have colour-coded access passes. We have citizens in a constant state of fear. We have policy decided by computer models and algorithms. We have dodgy R&D technology (the Vaccine). We even have mutants! And SAGE member Susan Michie (Ultraviolet programmer) is a commie infiltrator.
That’s so true! I wonder if we are infra- reds or even lower?
We’re the ‘weirdos’ living outside Alpha complex. What were they called? Sierra Club?
And as I recall, any weapons we were issued were experimental and tended to blow us up. The vaccine maybe?
‘Sociopath’? No – full-blown sadistic psychopath.
They always move the goal posts and always will. We have to end this for them by not complying en masse. Otherwise the projected recovery of the economy will be the next thing they’ll have to admit they “overpromised” on, and people will be in bread lines.
London region deaths, as you can see, growing exponentially!!!!
Cheers for posting all again NickR.
Quite! And did you see how many tests were reported today – about 450k !
A record!
It’s depressing to think that so many people are still volunteering to be tested. Although I suspect a large percentage of those are being done in hospitals and care homes.
I got an unsolicited text from my GP surgery yesterday (must be open after all) telling me there were 44 cases in the area. It’s interesting when the testing centre has been open once in the past 3 months and the GPs won’t see anyone with symptoms.
If the people at my work are anything to go by they’re all getting tested before visiting people at Christmas.
I’m convinced this is at least part of the reason. There’s been a huge jump in my area, right in time for the end of term.
I’d rather use a more practical implement than a heavy heart.
What kind of business do you have kh? I’m sorry if you’ve already said and I missed it – I’ve only recently joined. Would you consider the common law route? I’ve heard it has worked for some, with just a notice put up. It all depends what you have to lose – I absolutely agree that if every business refused to close there wouldn’t be much they could do about it. Also are you a member of the FSB? What’s their stance on all this?
She runs a cafe.
Noticed something for the first time today, in the Post Office. There was a big poster about social distancing, masks, using hand jizz etc. But not a single mention of Covid nor Corona. I wonder if this will become more common as the powers that be attempt to accustom people to the idea of permanent lockdown without any actual reason.
For sure that’s what they’re trying to programme into us. I’ve been saying for ages now that in 5 years time people will still be scuttling around in their face-nappies, and they’ll have forgotten why.
Quite probable. Ancient traditions whose origins are lost in the mists of time.
Yes I’ve noticed that, socially engineering you for the ‘new ab-normal’.
As I entered a cafe today maskless and got a look by the assistant, I always want to say: Do you REALLY think I do not know you expect me to wear a nappy? So do not bother “reminding” me!!
Thank Goodness the Christmas greetings will stop soon. I’ve had a virtue-signalling round robin letter today about virtual choirs, enjoying new activities in lockdown and doing x y and z when “allowed” to followed by a text with a photo of mask-wearing dogs! My overseas friends have watched the news and are anxiously begging me to “stay safe”. They must think the UK the most dangerous place on earth from news bulletins. Still no clue if I’m going anywhere for Christmas as my friend’s husband is a covid hysteric who plans to eat out of doors and won’t live with his wife. He was telling her off on Sunday for having both me and another mask exempt lady in her car and no open windows. He was wrong as I did have the window open.
Yep, the two most annoying words in the world, “Stay safe”!
How about “Stay safe in a Support Bubble”
Indeed. I’ve always said “Stay sane”. Unfortunately it seems it’s now too late for many.
As God is my witness, the next person who tells me to “stay safe” I will punch.
Righteous indignation, indeed.
Let’s hope they aren’t socially distanced ;o))
Absolutely. Loathsome, horrid, nauseating.
Somebody said on here that ‘stay safe’ is the new ‘Heil Hitler’.
I’ve been retaliating by saying “Have a sane 2021.”
I’ve long wanted to shoot or hack to death anyone who tells me to “stay safe.”
I could have punched a trader on the market today who wished me a merry christmas!
Deaths in the North West. Last month’s scare turns into this month’s case study.
Apparently Hancock said Happy Christmas at the end of this c**p, his security must be tight
Seriously he has never had to properly face someone whose life he has destroyed since this shenanigans started. Nor Whitby, Vallance etc. The MSM have definitely done their job at the expense of silencing some of our most vulnerable fellow citizens. A plague on them all.
Cant watch any of them now, or the tv will suffer
How about a very virulent strain of coronavirus on them?
He really does deliver a truly vomit inducing performance, he did his ‘tiny tears’ act when he talked in heart wrenching terms about all the people who are dying everyday of this terrible disease. This wringing out the death figures is really the lowest form of propaganda, does he really think that all these people died just of Covid and but for Covid would be alive today, giving the country the lowest death rate for many years?
This disgraceful misrepresentation of deaths is insulting and disrespectful to the people who died and their relatives and it is taken in, hook. line and sinker by the Covid zealots as justification for lockdowns.
It reminds me of what happens with people who lead cults. They sometimes begin as fraudsters, but their ego and power grows, and their start to believe their own hype. I think Hancock really believes he is saving lives. He is insane.
The one reassuring thing about all of this is that Hancock is going to end up dead. He knows about too many skeletons in too many closets. Suicide will be their means of silencing him but he will be silenced.
Is he going to shoot himself twice in the back of the head?
Are you allowed to do takeaways? Sell other food items, such as bread? Anything that can be considered “essential” that you can run alongside the cafe business?
Fear Fatigue or Lockdown Fatigue.
I’m no longer afraid. Even my psychologist said this to me a few days ago.
A bit like what happened during the Blitz. Unfortunately the majority of the population were stoic then and are certainly not now. I am disappointed at their cowardice (to say the least!), most of these feckers deserve to have the harshest lockdowns possible.
In the meantime I am walking tall, walking straight, unmasked, and unapologetic.
My love and best wishes to you all over this festive period.
Arnie.
Great post!
We owe it to ourselves to be as happy as we can
That’s the spirit !!!!!
And to you, Arnie. Great words! You’re an inspiration to us all.
Good on you mate. That’s just the sort of talk I like. The bastards don’t like it up em!
You are the man.
The same to you and yours, Arnie. Let’s hope 2021 is brighter.
Enjoy yourself Arnie, here’s to a better 2021.
Well said, Arnie. Walk tall, cast off fear, stay human.
Well said, sir. Remember, we are freeborn Britons. Tyrants have tried to enslave our race before, and always they have failed.
Agree Arnie.
Thank you for your posts, they have been a beacon of hope and sanity.
For those of you interested in a bit more detail on when the deaths reported actually happened here’s the data from the Centre for Evidence Based Medicine report showing when the deaths in English hospitals reported today happened.
Nick, on my local rag it has at least one death back to 19 April.
There is often a catch up exercise just before Christmas
Yes, you’re right, one was on the 19th April but I zoomed in & it got cut off.
Notice the spike on the 21st, the shortest and darkest day of the year
Has Wanksock pushed it too far this time? I didn’t watch it but I’ve read that he introduced a new strain more transmissible than the one from last week despite there only being 2 cases (??). He is coming across as a killer on a rampage.
Let’s put it this way, Andrew Cuomo has stiff competition for next year’s BAFTA. It was an Oscar-quality acceptance speech, even if the content was distinctly Golden Raspberry!
Maybe he needs “more rope” as it were. Indulge him, let him get ahead of himself somehow.
And trip over a sudden drop with said rope wrapped around a certain appendage. Of which I believe he has two. It is the upper one I have in mind for the rope.
Psycho Killer.
Shops allowed to stay open
Can you re-designate yourself as a pet shop? With a sideline of comestibles for pet owners? (I’m not joking – this is what I’d look into if I was in your position).
So I’m going from Tier 2 to Tier 4 on Boxing Day, despite daily cases in my local authority area being less than half the English average. Furious isn’t a strong enough word. Every new restriction seems to have to be accompanied by a dramatic new discovery. I’m amazed so many
Same here, 3 in hospital with covid apparently, bloody raging
Sorry, sent too early: So I’m going from Tier 2 to Tier 4 on Boxing Day, despite daily cases in my local authority area being less than half the English average. Furious isn’t a strong enough word. Every new restriction seems to have to be accompanied by a dramatic new discovery. I’m amazed so many unquestioningly accepted there was a scary new mutant virus and now they’re pushing exactly the same same line with the South African variant. I will never vote for them again of course, but the opposition seems worse and beyond that there seems absolutely no way of checking their power.
There is an ancient philosophy, most efficaceous in every case. It’s only two words:
Fuck ’em.
Seems like the only way out of this is to vote for what they fear the most: Nigel Farage. Even though i’m not exactly sure how reliable he is.
Richard Tice seems on the ball
I’ve thought the same. And those folks are the last people this former left-wing type would ever vote for.
Farage is an opportunistic turncoat unfortunately
This mutant strain crap is a goldmine for the fakers – just swap strains when the Fear factor is wearing off.
There was the preposterous mutant mink virus too. Reported for a week then conveniently forgotten once it had done its job. Why is no-one in the media even asking questions?
My local paper reported today that we can expect a 1.66% increase in covid tax.
Not in my name!
Well, there is a way. A very simple way. However this requires direct action. Not waffling on about how many cycles in a test, nor gasping at the dreadful colour combinations of the frightful mutant (soon to be alien) bug. We need to exercise our power by gathering in huge numbers, occupying every village, town and city square, ongoing, though.
Otherwise, have a peek at what awaits just around the corner, in the next few weeks.
Here’s your near..and distant future. Nationwide protest. Lose the fear, nothing else will do. Cheers.
Ignore.. carry on as usual.
You are right, of course, if only more were prepared to do the same.
Yes but you can’t make “non essential” shops, pubs, hairdressers etc open. Nor can you watch live sport . Normal is pretty much go for walk, watch tv . Great
Indeed. One does what one can, in private, but we really need big retail and hospitality chains to just start opening in defiance of the tiers. They’ve not got much left to lose.
I can’t help thinking a lot of people at the top of the hospitality industry have been nobbled in some way. Why, for example, is Tim Wetherspoon not leading a mass revolt? He owns about 800 pubs! Why aren’t the shareholders demanding action? Something stinks in the pub trade and it’s not the pork scratchings.
Tim has published https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/news/2020/11/wetherspoon-news-do-lockdowns-work but he can’t just open the pubs or he would lose all his licenses.
when it gets to the point of complying with obvious lies or losing a licence issued by the obvious liars, you know you’ve got a problem
Me too, my business closed again, and no money coming in again, no Rishi’s magic money tree cash for me, January will be my 6th month in a year of this. When will this nightmare end
And no one’s asking what a ‘case’ is
I have such a low opinion of the human race right now. The level of stupidity is ten times worse than I imagined
I believe this is part of a planned move to get away from lockdowns being specifically about Covid to more generalised and vague ‘public health threats’ which can be invoked at any time. We’re seeing this already, with the lockdowns being used to keep people inside while Brexit happens (or doesn’t).
Yes, you may be right, and this is why the public must say a firm ‘no’ to this shit right now.
I notice they’re not calling this Covid-20
Shove your tiers up your fucking arses.
My muses have abandoned me. I’m in the hands of Ares now.
Madam, you are a laureate for a generation. Moo to you.
Such a wonderful picture. I bet his descendants are putting his efforts to shame.
Mate
You are a fucking inspiration
From Citizen 001 in Gulag Essex.
Bring it motherfuckers.
Who needs refinement? This does the job.
Well done!!!
From a fan in HMP London
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/on-energy/2011/09/14/abiotic-oil-a-theory-worth-exploring
40,000 feet inside the earth Russians discovered abiotic fuel. Not fossil fuel.
as superhero “yeadonman” says he knows we’re being lied to but doesn’t know why.
all the bullshit “science” has come from within the govt; all the sensible science has come from outside the govt. there is clearly no longer any point whatsoever in trying to reconcile the two versions – it cannot be done, because we are indeed being lied to by the govt.
but i think the reason why has now become clear – it has been, and continues to be, all to do with stealing the US election by, let’s call them for the sake of argument, “Entity X”.
if that’s the case, then in promoting the pandemic/lockdown narrative the govt has either been:-
a) totally duped by Entity X, but still grossly negligent and wilfully deceitful in dealing with the perceived threat;
b) blackmailed by Entity X, so with a possible defence of duress and wanting to protect us from potentially worse threats; or
c) totally complicit with Entity X
all 3 are terrible outcomes – which seems the most likely?
Has anything been declared today in the USA that might have prompted further tightening of lockdown measures that will presumably last into early January? What happens in the USA in early January? Did lockdown 2 coincide with anything significant that happened in the USA?
what’s going to happen if Entity X (i) succeeds or (ii) fails?
But it makes no sense that the rest of the world would be complicit in it. Th United States may have many friends around the world, but it also has many enemies who would blow this wide open.
depends what they’ve all been promised/threatened with doesn’t it?
It’s possible that there’s an ‘Entity X’ at work, but as Mr Rose points out below, the enemies of X would surely have revealed something by now. My theory is, in a way, worse – I think this is an event of global mass hysteria whereby mankind is taking a retrograde step into irrationality and superstition. It could be sort of like the Reformation, only in reverse.
Spot on. I used to think that human progress would accelerate at a fantastic pace after the Internet became available to all. In theory, we now have all human knowledge at our fingertips. Instead, the Internet has become a conduit for media hysteria and a global rumour mill, with alternative points of view subject to creeping censorship. Future generations will surely regard current events as an outbreak of collective madness.
Yes, though you are assuming that there will be future generations that have overcome this nightmare. I’m starting to wonder. I do agree that most people use the Internet for not-so-enlightened ends and it has failed to live up to its potential – though this is our (collective) fault.
We need TRUMP. Otherwise th chy-knees takeover will be fact
Indeed
I’ll tell you what the population are being subjected to:
Being forced into the mind of someone with social phobia/agoraphobia and OCD.
Considering our fellow citizens as virus laden zombies is not a good prescription for mental health.
It most certainly is not. Human beings are social animals. Anything that runs counter to that is anti-human.
No wonder people are acting weirdly when everything they are told runs counter to what they are – or used to – be, and ought still to be.
Watch this video
https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1341799989773778944
Late to the party today.
Apologies if I’m adding to some duplication but I wanted to bump this link from Barney McGrew hours ago because it’s such a brilliant article:
https://thecritic.co.uk/boiling-the-bioethical-frog/
FDA Investigates Allergic Reactions to Pfizer COVID Vaccine After More Healthcare Workers Hospitalized
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fda-investigates-allergic-reactions-pfizer-covid-vaccine-after-more-healthcare-wo
Oh dear. BBC putting out vaccine misinformation again (it’s time they made a law against it..)
Check out last minute:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-55219657
OK, a quick roundup of today’s events (I may have blinked and missed some):-
And so the screw is tightened and the terror level increases
I think it’s our terror level that is being upped. Everyone else seems to be absolutely fine with it all.
I’m not terrified.
The zombies have let terror take them over, it’s become the medium they live in.
They can have it.
ah ha
I’m in absolute disbelief at the shite that is being pumped out by the propaganda machine, and the fact that people are believing it! New mutant strains! Back to normal by 2022! What the fuck is wrong with everyone? How can they be blindly accepting this?
Just spent 99p on “Boris Johnson is a fucking cunt” – it’s not much, but if this gets to number 1 it’s at least something to save this poor excuse for a Christmas.
Totally agree
Boris Johnson Is A Fucking Cunt | The Kunts | Kunt and the Gang (bandcamp.com)
If you fancy a listen
Nobody Spunks Up A Cunt Anymore | The Kunts | Kunt and the Gang (bandcamp.com)
This one is funnier (you might need half a Bottle of brandy to appreciate it though)
Enjoy it, Next year is going to get real. Prepare to get violent
Fuck everything Basically, Oh merry Christmas
I shelled out my 99p for a recording of Boris Johnson is a Cucking Funt last night. It would be a nice gesture if the punk gentlemen who recorded it donated the royalties to a sceptic cause.
Psychopath Bliar wants faster vaccination campaign. I detect a wee bit of nervousness kicking in here. They are absolutely desperate to get that vaccine into us. You’ve got to remember Bliar knows this is a hoax. Those bloody vaccines are their key to success, and the more people like Bliar push this I detect the G word on the horizon.
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1341504226355257344
Blair killed a million (probably double that) in Iraq
He deserves the death penalty.
He remains top of my “list”
Damn right.
Blair is invested in ID 2020 which needs the vaccines in order to exist
Why is Blair still in the media circus? Why is anyone interested in anything he has to say? – If he hadn’t topped himself, would Hitler have been doing the rounds after WW2 giving interviews to the newspapers and TV?
Haha! Yes. What a great concept. I can imagine Frost in 1967 interviewing him.
I think they have a timeline. Financial restructuring seems inevitable in 2021 or at least a very public statement that its happening. The IMF, BIS, Federal Reserve. They’ll come together to bring it forward and digitisation of global finance surely is the goal.
However, its chicken and egg. They need infrastructure in place to ensure tracking and identification of people. If they can get this in under the pretext of Covid and vaccines, they will. I see Blair as the sales man for the plan
I have searched the published scientific data and cannot determine the source which permitted Hancock to alarm the nation with his hysterical response to the South African variant of the Covid19 virus. The behaviour of some of the Public Health advisors, some members of sage borders on negligence. They ignore the harm done by inducing alarm and altering the ability to treat to all non directly Covid19 related events. Perhaps it is to warn these individuals that they are not immune from civil action if their actions can be demonstrated to cause harm by their behaviour if it is negligent eg inducing delay in identifying malignant tumours etc
Looking at the SAGE minutes they are usually quite tentative in their conclusions, to be fair. It is ministers who are in full panic mode.
I think SAGE and probably most civil servants are being very careful what they write down.
Wouldn’t you be, knowing that your next trip abroad might be to Nuremberg?
Germany is scaring people about the SA variant as well.
Perhaps people should be more worried. This is not ‘incompetence’. ‘Two years to flatten the curve’
https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1341809481550868483?s=20
I wrote a letter to my local paper saying that there is no persuasive evidence that masks are effective. In the comments section I was called a conspiracy theorist and a plague rat and there were plenty of demands for my letter not to be published, although I called for the Govt. to publish a summary of the arguments and link to research papers. The editor removed and disabled comments. But fair play to the Worcester News they left my letter up.
How do the mask zombies breathe? Through their masks. Air goes into the mask and out. Otherwise they’d be dead. Obviously they are brain dead, not to notice.
In cold weather, face knickers belch out a cloud of water vapour.
What’s water vapour?
Droplets.
Enough said.
Through their bottoms. They use the same orifice to talk.
Anyone know if we get to choose which vaccine we have, when more than one is available?
Of course you can choose
Choose not to take it, protect Mrs and Ms Tenchy, That’s your Job,
I’m not big and scary but I’ll be fucked if I let my family be Guinee pigs.
Why even ask ?
Probably depends if you are private or nhs.
The empty syringe if you’ve got the right contacts. The full one if you don’t.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Since when did the NHS allow you choice over things like that? And as far as the Covid vax is concerned they will expect you to prostrate yourself at your feet just for the chance to have the stuff put into your body – how dare you start to make requests?
Evening all. Pleased to report my relatives were alright, I think they know “it” is a painful subject although there were a few annoying questions like “What will you be doing after university next year” (Fuck knows). Thankfully they don’t insist on muzzles in the house.
Tomorrow I will report from the Dorset escape.
Dorset is a lovely county, do enjoy it.
Mate I know you are struggling some times.
If there is a pm function , then please use it.
You are clearly a smart young man, Without you we are lost.
Keep fighting , I am sure you are the best of us.
So glad to hear it wasn’t the shit show you were expecting! I’ve decided that I can be around people with whom I may disagree, so long as they can behave normally in my presence. Sounds like your family know what they need to do in order to still have you join them. I have a friend with lupus and she and I couldn’t be on more opposite ends of this spectrum, but we stay away from the contentious topics and we’ve been able to stay friends. We had a few rough patches but, like adults, we discussed which topic areas we needed to stay away from. I have my line in the sand, but thus far nobody in my life has crossed it. Enjoy your Dorset escape!
Glad to hear it wasn’t as bad as you were expecting. Even at the best of times, family gatherings can be tough. Yes, the ‘what next’ question is annoying, but it always comes up. I hope you enjoy Dorset.
I thought Bristol was interesting, if you live near Bristol. Make of it what you will.
That sudden drop is a fascinating artifact.
Very interesting.
The two hospital clearances this year have been 19 March
‘….acute and community hospitals must discharge all patients as soon as they are clinically safe to do so. Transfer from the ward should happen within one hour of that decision being made to a designated discharge area. Discharge from hospital should happen as soon after that as possible, normally within 2 hours.’
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/911541/COVID-19_hospital_discharge_service_requirements_2.pdf
and 18 September, two weeks notice given to hospitals.
I haven’t seen any depictions of similar outcome correlations between the two clearances but, intuitively, it seems unlikely that the outcomes for the health and welfare of this country’s most vulnerable citizens could have been much different following the March and September clearances, although the September event was, no doubt, more measured.
I am sure I am not the only one, but I would much prefer to be free and to take the chance of catching the virus if it exists, than be locked up for the foreseeable future. I hate this government!
Define “free”!
Are you just now waking up to the Reality that you, my fellow slave, are just another animal in the global Herd of modern moron slaves?!
No certainly not. I have been awake for months!
lol
Speak for yourself. I’m not anyone’s slave.
Of course not… Totally free!!!
Funny guy.
Me too. Pre 2020. Old normal
According to cancer charities 1in 2 will develop cancer.
That is a 98?% more chance of dying of cancer than covid.
And stress causes cancer, but not covid.
I’ll take my chances!
Email I just received from a parts supply company,
Potential Delivery Issues
Tier 4 Locations
Following the news over the weekend that London and the South East has moved into Tier 4.
Our Courier Partner has made the difficult decision to suspend all new bookings into Tier 4 areas with immediate effect.
We will still continue to deliver to these areas via DHL. However, these may be longer than normal lead times.
I hope they go bust.
Looks like the liars are lying again, 2022 for their new normal to end, they are lying
Most people will have forgotten they said that by November, when they start saying 2023.
Yep. The Epsilon Class of Brave New World is here.
Have a Drink on me mate,
Keep posting,
I’m a sad old fuck and they cheer me up ( I like your brand of Nihilistic defiance) If that makes any sense
All the very best
Cheers mate, I enjoy your contributions for similar reasons.
I’ll crack open the Absinth when it’s time to go. Not just yet.
I love both of you. Don’t go anywhere — we need you here.
Dearest Lisa
You postcards form Toronto (I have been many times to watch the Jays, My wife loves Baseball) always give me hope
A random internet person from the UK
While I’m not a baseball fan, I did love my city and am sad to have had to leave. I have been to the UK many times and both my grandfathers were born there (London and Liverpool) so I have an affinity for the country and the people. Love you guys!
The bald bloke’s alright.
By then, most people will have forgotten what the “old normal” was like…
Oh its gone nowhere.
We are far stronger than them. I have no doubt of that.
It might take a few thousand years. Humanity will win in the end, its just nature playing games, as it always does.
I found myself wondering today how the brainwashed will get out of this. The decision to react this way and trash our economies, freedoms and ways of life was a political decision, and it will be a political decision to put a stop to it (fingers crossed). If you’ve been in fight-or-flight mode for an entire year and believed that every person in your path was a possible killer, how do you ever go back to normal? All of us sceptics would be perfectly fine and well-adjusted if the tap was turned back on again — we’d be shopping, dining out, socializing (with what friends we have left), going to sports events, music, theatre, etc. without a care in the world. But how do the brainwashed ever navigate the world without fear, masks and hand sanitizer? And for those of them who have kids, how do they convince their kids that the world is a safe place and that they’re not liable to kill their grandparents next time they have a sniffle? Just rhetorical questions to which I don’t have any answers. My fear is they may not want normal again as it would stress them more than the current insanity they have become used to. I just hope they’re in the minority and the majority of sheeple are just going along to get along.
Yes, I have thought of this quite often and I think that’s why governments were so keen on getting a magic vaccine – any vaccine, even if it’s just for a placebo effect. They could combine this with reducing the cycles on the PCR test (or using lateral flow) and just generally testing fewer people, along with the natural drop that will happen in the spring. I still want to think that this is the plan, ideally in the UK with the Conservatives forcing Bozo out and his successor sacking most of the Cabinet and all of SAGE and the other ‘scientific advisers’. Then the government can declare victory and we can have a freedom day in March or April (May at the latest). The prospect of some kind of electronic pass for medical records, however, scares the hell out of me and anyone else who values freedom, and if it does happen – which I don’t think is even possible in the UK, given our record with technology and implementing anything new or different – we are screwed, though I suppose the pass would facilitate the goal of deprogramming the Covidians. They might accept something like normal if they feel reassured by mass vaccination and constant medical monitoring. Sorry about that thought! This is why we need to fight all this crap. Even if we do manage to get through this current shitshow with a best-case scenario, there’s always the next virus and the new, authoritarian legislation and infrastructure in place (that MUST be repealed). My suspicion is that we might actually make it through to a ‘freedom day’ in many countries around April, but that we will lack the critical mass to turn around the momentum for the dystopian, medicalised surveillance state most of us are worried about, and this will gradually develop in the coming few years.
Yes, the medical surveillance worries me as well and I saw this coming back in the spring when people thought I was crazy for mentioning it. And why just the Covid vaccine? Why wouldn’t we have to get every vaccine under the sun in order to travel, dine out, etc.? We could end up in a one step forward, two steps back scenario as they continue to play with us. I hope I’m wrong.
Enough time to ensure most are vaccinated and immunity passports are established. Population under control and pharma and tech companies guaranteed profits indefinitely
“Excuse me, do you discriminate against Gay and Black people too, Or is it only people with disabilities you don’t like”
Said by Mrs OBG to some rancid dried up old bag in Tesco in Thorpe Bay ( God I do love her)
Good one !.
Just wait until the covid/freedom/whatever-they-are-calling-them passes come in and you are treated as second class if you refuse vaccination. They will be effectively discriminating against healthy people with good working immune systems at that point!
I’m in Essex mate,
Bring it, seriously bring it the the fuck on.
I’m not alone this place is ready to blow, fuck knows what some of the really dodgy places are like.
From your friendly white sock wearing, Stella drinking , football drinking “little friend”
Yes absolutely disgraceful!
You have a treasure there!
Stymied lol , what makes me laugh is pro lockdown folk think they’re the good guys JUST thru main stream media telling them they are!
Nice one Mrs OBG!
I’ll try to offset my rather miserable post below with something a little more positive. Last week was the final one of term. I managed a haul of seven bottles of wine (or “a week’s worth” as I put it to my form). Secondary schools have been told they must reopen gradually and only allow certain years back. The teaching unions are opposing and I’m amazed to find myself agreeing with anything they say. But then I’m also amazed to hear teaching unions arguing that teachers should actually be teaching. The independent schools are planning to ignore the advice en masse and open as usual. If only more organisations would do this. On the final day, some sixth-formers asked if I was an “anti-masker”. I generally avoid giving a view on anything political but I wasn’t prepared to lie and anything less than full enthusiasm would have been interpreted correctly. Instead I managed a long rant that ended, “it would be like if the school told you someone had put cyanide in the water supply and they planned to tie pieces cloth over the taps to catch all the cyanide particles.” Not the most coherent of arguments but all held similar views and this generation is the one thing that makes me hopeful.
Bravo, your pupils are lucky children!
Sorry, am I understanding this correctly – the teaching unions WANT schools to open and are OPPOSING a staggered start?
What’s going on?!
I still have BBC, but stopping it after this !!!
Good luck with that, stopped my direct debit for the licence fee in September, only to be told I’d paid till April next year! Can’t escape even if you want to!
I remember I got a refund for a few remaining months when I cancelled, but that was years ago, so the rules might have changed. Worth checking.
I moved into my own property in December (many years ago, )bought a tv and a license. For years paid yearly, then switched to DD. Cancelled my DD after my payment in November, thinking that ends my licensed period.
I received the following:
Any payments made towards your next TV license will be refunded and you will be sent a renewal reminder when your existing tv license expires.
I always thought by paying by DD, I was paying “for that month”?
No, you only have a single license, renewable each year.
The DD spreads the payment.
You can legally cancel though. (See my other comment on this).
Yes you can! You can legally stop paying your license fee:
https://www.defundbbc.uk/frequently-asked-questions/
Cancelled my direct debit for tv licence last month
I stopped listening to BBC radio when they had a little girl quoting “all I want for Christmas is a vaccine for Covid”. Absolutely sick!
Just got hold of this leaked memo from a cabinet meeting explaining how we came to be victims to the PCR casedemic.
Well I say cabinet meeting, those in attendence were:
Boris-brain
Cawwie
Representative from Nervtag (or any other asinine acronym you care to make up)
Boris-brain – The sheep are not sore afraid we need more cases.
Nervtag – We could increase the cycles Prime Minister.
Cawwie – Hooway, more cycles we need more cycles don’t we Bowis?
Boris-brain – Pause, whir, clunk ‘Cycles good, Cars bad’ clunk, whir, pause. Yes we need more cycles, make is so.
Cawwie – Hooway, we are going to save the pwanet!
Nervtag – The prime minister has asked us to increase the ct values of PCR tests – get on it.
Nah, can’t be real: there is almost coherence in the ‘debate’!
I voted to leave the European Union. Now, I can’t even leave my county.
Well, they’re just pretending you can’t. Actually, you can! The power is yours.
Actually, the borders are closed to us in quite a few countries. You can’t enter if you can’t get through passport control.
Paint you face black,steal a rib boat,head for France. What could go wrong?
The paint could wash off if you got splashed in the Channel.
Your passport is broken, Dave.
Want to buy some pegs?
Your comment says “county” not “country”.
I think that was what Mr Dee was responding to.
Sorry, my bad! But I fully expected to see passport control going up between counties soon!
Some European countries have closed the borders to British passport holders who are legal residents of those countries, if they’ve been visiting the UK..
Just thought I’d let you know about my 82 yr old Dad.
He decided not to pop over the pennines for Christmas this year.
Instead he’s driven down from tier 3 Burnley to Bournemouth to spend a few days with my brothers family, hugs and kisses all round.
When I rang him he was in the pub with a pint cheering on Burnley on the box with my brother and a few of his mates.
As he said. ‘I haven’t got long left and those bastards have taken a year if my life.
He is taking the virus seriously though and has a Vit D suppliment every day.
Good to see somebody taking a stance and doing what is right for them. I wonder what would happen if we asked/polled the over 80s asking what they want?
my mother is 91 and says this lockdown and masking sh*t is the biggest scam ever perpetrated on humanity. She is frail and has beginning dementia but stays in her own apartment with visiting caregivers twice a day. She says if she catches it and dies she’ll have saved herself being diapered and fed in a nursing home later.
I have two neighbours, both in their early 80s and they would agree with the “I haven’t got long left…” comment above. They both say that if they get the virus and it kills them, so be it, but in the meantime, they will live life to the full and ignore as much of the ‘rules’ as they can.
“He is taking the virus seriously though and has a Vit D suppliment every day.”
The voice of sanity, AWOL all too often this year.
(We’ll pass politely over the support for Burnley.)
Good on him!
. Even the Blackburn/Burnley rivalries pale into insignificance now. )
(And I shan’t mention the word ‘Dingle’
Since I haven’t spent much time here recently, I’m guess that you all know about this already. I just found out about this today. Government procurement request given to “The Hub Company”. I assume once they’ve got a minimum viable product, they will go on to develop the full-fledged one.
Develop a negative Covid-19 test certification minimum viable product.
previously discussed .. more info here
https://dailysceptic.org/2020/12/21/latest-news-230/#comment-314628
Thanks. I’ve been staying away for mental health reasons. Of course, finding that the government’s instituting covid passes is not helping my mental health any. Just want to find a quiet place to be alone these days.
This is why we’re being held hostage. So we surrender to the tech companies and Pharma’s demands and accept a future of endless vaccines and surveillance via immunity passports
I don’t doubt it. It’s just the tangible expression of that desire expressed in a contract that’s disheartening. Not surprising, just disheartening.
I shall refuse both. It’s why I have such disdain for those who enabled this and those who should be fighting against it (human rights lawyers, unions etc) but aren’t
I think they will crawl out of the woodwork when their time comes.
This is the country the coronapanickers have made of us:
Chorus of dissent after police stop carol singers in car park
Let us count the ways this story marks 2020 Britain for contempt.
Someone thought it was necessary to call the police about carol singers. It’s debatable which would be worse – if it was because they were such fear-filled cowards that they actually felt threatened by this activity, or if they were such delusional dupes that they thought doing this would signal their virtuous “protectiveness” towards other people, or if they were just the usual kind of busybody using the law to exert petty power over others.
The police actually responded to the call, when as often as not a call about a crime, unless immediate threat was involved or there was some outrage against political correctness, would just elicit a response to the effect that they lack manpower and you should call your insurers.
Not only did they respond, but they did so mob-handed, as though carol singers in villages commonly respond to police approaches with aggressive resistance. That’s four patrol cars-worth less manpower to respond to real crimes.
Even the victims in this were sufficiently brainwashed or cautious about conforming to the prevailing lunacy that they insisted on “social distancing”. Such collaboration enables the lunacy to continue.
Desperately depressing. Anyone who still respects the police needs their head examined.
They made “victims” of themselves.
Should have told them to fuck off
What a dystopian phrase, ‘The county is in Tier 3, where carol singing is allowed ‘,what would we have thought if we read that a year ago today ?.
Imagine taking a copy of a current Times or Guardian back to yourself exactly 12 months ago.
I suspect convincing yourself that the time travel and self-duplication were real would actually be easier than persuading yourself that the newspaper content was…..
I would have packed and left the country,
In one episode of The Sopranos AJ vandalises his school’s swimming pool and stupidly leaves a customised pizza at the scene. I think not just one but two cop cars show up at the pizzeria. Clearly they were not too busy in that town.
Cornwall, you can’t help feeling they’ve been screwed by those irresponsible bastards in Devon!
Forget the graphs. Restore human rights
though I am no a medical expert i don’t take any notice of the SAGE scare mongers and if any Tory MP’s look at My message will You please find some courage and remove Johnson,Hancock and SAGE then repeal all this nonsense replace with simple guidelines for people to follow thank you https://www.saveourrights.uk
You know what grinds my fucking gears ?
None of the blokes would last 5 minutes in a Football ground, or a decent boozer (the sort of one where everyone knows how to “behave” themselves)
You are being governed by the nerdy kid with a fucking clipboard, or Shop supervisors with the “keys ”
Tell ’em to fuck off.
Swear box, OBG!
Don’t know if this graph has been posted here before, but it’s a good summary – from a Tweet by InProportion2 who has done some sterling work displaying coronapanic info this year. These graphs are going to be very common after the end of the year, when it will be much easier to compare without having to get part-year totals. When you also adjust for aging population the point is going to be even more stark.
We trashed our economy and our society for this!
good one!… yep what deadly unprecedented pandemic?
What’s that?
This year is where on the list?
It’s 11th?
What not the most deadly year ever ever ever?
No way?
Mark, this is an excellent demolition of the sheer fallacies that have been relentlessly propagated by the MSM and this government. Well done!
However, the counter argument will be that this shows that Lockdowns, face-nappies, anti-social distancing and all the rest of the palaver actually work. If these measures had NOT been put in place (they will say) the death tally would have been much higher. I do NOT say that this argument is valid; I think it is completely erroneous, but unfortunately, I cannot see a way (at present) of countering it.
Can’t take any personal credit for the graph, Stephanos, but I have long thought this will be a big issue once we get to the end of the year and can do overall death comparisons with past years easily, for all the countries in the world.
As you say, the instant reply from panic zealots is just to claim that this is only due to the effectiveness of the lockdown etc responses.
The counter imo is first to point out that the numbers are similarly unexceptional everywhere in the world, despite wildly different responses, and second to draw attention to all the studies indicating no evident correlation between responses and death toll.
At the least, it will provoke the minimally honest to serious reconsideration of their assumptions and beliefs. A lot of people I’ve had exchanges with have gone quiet or expressed genuine shock when confronted with these kinds of figures.
Sums it up really…what a joke!
Covid Hell, Covid Hell, Covid Hell rock
Covid Hell sells, and Covid Hell brings
Scary new forecasts of dangers to come
Now the vaccine roll out’s begun
Covid Hell, Covid Hell, Covid Hell rock
Covid Hell’s fine, it’s new tier time
No dancing or singing in mask wearing Square
No more inhaling any fresh air
What a shit time, it’s the wrong time
To rock the night away
Covid Hell time is a crap time
Don’t go glidin’ in a one-horse sleigh
Giddy-up Covid fear, pick up your Vax
Covid around the clock
Don’t mix and a-mingle in illegal air
That’s the Covid Hell rock
Covid Hell, Covid Hell, Covid Hell rock
Covid Hell’s fine, it’s new tier time
No dancing or singing in mask wearing Square
No more inrailing any fresh air
What a shit time, it’s the wrong time
To rock the night away
Covid Hell time is a crap time
Don’t go glidin’ in a one-horse sleigh
Giddy-up Covid horse, pick up your strain
Covid around the clock
Don’t mix and a-mingle in the fetid old street
That’s the Covid Hell
That’s the Covid Hell
That’s the Covid Hell rock
Riddle me this. Europe accounts for over 60% of global covid deaths at present, but look at Excess deaths on Euromomo, 6% ahead of usual bounds.
I only post angry “fuck off” stuff, it makes me feel better (I do do it in the real word too though )
The work you do on your charts is invaluable.
Thanks so much, very best wishes to you and yours.
Swear box, then! Good reason to give to a good cause AND let off steam at the same time!
Answer: MSM don’t distinguish with/of.
Can anyone help me understand this?
Nickla has said that the Border is closed and that nobody should be entering or leaving Scotland.
Yet if you look at the Glasgow Airport arrivals information online, there are flights arriving from Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stansted, Birmingham, Bristol, Bournemouth etc etc. Are the people descending onto sacred Scottish soil from these aircraft just landed from these English plague-ridden places being arrested immediately?
They have worn a fc during the flight, they are covid free.
‘Essential travel’ is still allowed so I guess it depends on an individual’s interpretation of ‘essential’.
Tell LNER, Cross Country, transpennine express immediately!
Maybe the virus can’t catch you at 125mph
Netherlands. They have reporting system from GPs of ILI(Influenza like illnesses).Many countries now also add to the syndromic system surveillance reports of CLI (covid like illness) as that should be something different and more specific
This graph from NL contradicts this and ILI symptoms as reported by GPs clearly reflect C-19. A clear peak this spring. The amazing thing is that now ILI is clearly less now than 2019.And NL has now 10 -15 times more PCR pos “cases” than in April but reduced ILI reporting!
NL might have a bit more reliable C-19 death statistics (compared to neighbouring Belgium) as they don’t seem to have many C-19 deaths as other countries in the seasonal wave and not more than the spring peak.
https://twitter.com/NoelGallagher/status/1341823422838484994?s=20
“Years passed. The seasons came and went, the short animal lives fled by. A time came when there was no one who remembered the old days before the Rebellion, except Clover, Benjamin, Moses the raven, and a number of the pigs.“
Back to normal by 2022.
Shouldn’t our old friends Margaret Keenan and Will Shakespeare have had their second jabs by now? What aren’t we hearing about it?
8th December + 21 days = 29th December. We won’t hear those names again regardless.
Why not?
They have served their purpose…
Yes, fair enough.
My mistake, I thought it was a two-week gap, not three.
But I agree, we won’t hear about them again. It’s all about the mutant strains now isn’t it.
They are both probably dead of vaccine toxicity.
Who knows they might not have even had the vaccine!?
I’m a hardcore, globalist hating hunk of burning scepticism, but I live in Coventry and I know people who know Margaret Keenan, she exists and she had a jab,
probably both dead
‘Once more unto the breach’ said Will to Marge.
Marge replied; ‘at least we don’t have to worry about the fertility issue…’
Surely it’s about time big companies started voicing their opinions to the government about this whole lockdown nonsense. Surely they aren’t all asleep???
They are quite happy receiving millions in furlough and other payments. Except high street retailers obviously.
They’re cowards and don’t want to be accused of putting profit before people.
Or be lumped with the likes of Philip Green and that Sports Direct bloke.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55428953
“The UK has detected two cases of another new variant of coronavirus, the health secretary Matt Hancock says. The cases in London and north west England are contacts of people who travelled to South Africa, where the variant was discovered. Travel restrictions with South Africa have been imposed. Anyone who has travelled there in the past fortnight, and anyone they have been in contact with, are being told to quarantine immediately.” The variant has been causing mounting concern in South Africa, where health minister Zweli Mkhize warned that “young, previously healthy people are now becoming very sick”.
ZM is excited by this
lucrativeworrying new development. He tweets:“Clinicians have been providing anecdotal evidence of a shift in the clinical epidemiological picture- in particular noting that they are seeing a larger proportion of younger patients with no co-morbidities presenting with critical illness.”
A most excellent opportunity. Younger patients – by which I presume he means young patients and not just younger geriatrics – and with no co-morbidities!
Could be the breakthrough we’ve all been waiting for. The franchise can now burst out of that moribund old market and get into youth culture.
So let’s see how the new epic is going:
“He said the country “cannot go through what we went through in the early days of the Aids pandemic”.”
Ah AIDS. Smart move. Get them with the familiarity angle. Excellent marleting strategy.
“Scientists in South Africa say the variant has “spread rapidly” and became the dominant form of the virus in parts of the country.”
Yes – looks like we’ve got a winner here!
“The variant is still being analysed, but the data are consistent with it spreading more quickly.”
Nice technical verbal flourish there. And “still being analysed” is a good move. Keep your cards to your chest. Don’t give the end away yet? Sorry – did I say “end” there? Silly me!
“It was detected for the first time in the UK on Tuesday.”
Coming to a cinema near you!
“This variant shares some similarities to the one that has already been detected in the UK, although they have evolved separately. Both have a mutation – called N501Y – which is in a crucial part of the virus that it uses to infect the body’s cells.”
The old techno babble! Better than Spock!
“Prof Neil Ferguson, from Imperial College London, said: “I think the greatest concern of ours at the moment is the South African one.”
Oh dear – there’s the first problem sign. That old fraud Ferguson. I mean come on! You’ve blown the game now! Nobody’s going to fall for that one! No …wait …shh! Keep it quiet! Keep walking …. Yes! I think we did it! We’re in the clear!
“There’s certainly anecdotal reports of explosive outbreaks for that virus and very steep increases in case numbers.”
And now that we’ve go past the Ferguson test, we know they’ll swallow anything. They won’t even notice that oxymoronic “certainly anecdotal reports”.
At the Downing Street press briefing, Mr Hancock said the new variant was “highly concerning” and that anyone told to quarantine must avoid “all contact with any other person whatsoever“.
Oh yes! Avoid all contact with any other person whatsoever! Now you’re talking!
“At the same briefing, he announced millions more people were being moved to Tier 4 on Boxing Day in an effort to control the virus.”
Blah blah blah “more transmissible” blah blah “still learning” blah blah “harsher levels …inevitable. ”
Verdict: Not at all bad! “South Africa” still sends a chill down most Western spines and works on both white racists who think those blacks are getting uppity and on right-on wokers who can be depended on to go off on a Feed-the-world rant. Also – the mention of any African country encourages a subliminal image of a much more exotic virus with a tropical flavour. Hint of voodoo, witch doctors, nasty big snakes etc.
Now – can any of you script writers get to work on …say, South America? India? Australia? Come on! Think of the connotations! Get to work!
The government is obviously trying to keep the tension and fear high. It is criminal.
Unfortunately it’s working judging by the (IMHO) massive increase of face nappy use outside.
It is highly criminal and should be punished accordingly.
Remember the time someone tricked Trump. We should make up spoof news stories and keep sending them to Hancock and see if we can get him to announce that the most deadly variant yet has been found in Wakanda.
someone I know did that to Ed Miliband on an election walkabout-he yelled at him “What are you going to do for the people of (made up name)?” Miliband replied that he respected the rights of these people-before his handlers realised it was a made up name and hustled him away. Shame as the TV cameras were there.
So is this strain the one that has really been causing the claimed recent steep increase in cases? Or is it this one plus the other one mentioned the other day? Is it either? There are thousands out there. Are the tests able to determine which strain of a particular virus an individual has been infected with?
All of the above should be basic questions that journalists are asking the likes of Hancock every single day.
Probably neither Richard. The whole thing is fucking nuts. I’ve had my fill of Hancock’s bollocks, I really have.
Probably would benefit from a slight re-wording.
there is no evidence…..
Sometimes you read something that’s so stupid you don’t really take it in at first. On a second reading this bit really stood out even more:
“There’s certainly anecdotal reports of explosive outbreaks for that virus and very steep increases in case numbers.”
I mean – isn’t that one of those times when they throw something out that’s so obviously stupid? As if to see if anyone’s paying attention? What does it even mean? We have certainly received anecdotes?
Anecdote:
similar: tale, narrative, sketch, urban myth, urban legend, reminiscence, yarn, shaggy-dog story
“We certainly received amusing, interesting stories regarded as unreliable or hearsay. Basically shaggy dog stories!”
“But we are certain about this!”
Gotta scare the youngsters. They were daring to celebrate the end of the school year with parties and such. I would never have done such a thing in my youth…
Anecdotes are simply hearsay and of course are not permissible as evidence in a court of law.
The strategy of trying to scare the young could backfire. So far they’ve been blackmailed on the basis they are invulnerable so should care about granny. Tell them they are at risk and they might just throw their hands up and be like “I’ll take the risk!”.
Fantastic analysis! Maybe you should use South African tactics to get this variant under control. ZM decided to close the beaches. Yes folks – get out of the sun (who needs vit D?) and the ocean and get into those shopping malls. That’ll show the virus!
But there are PEOPLE DYING!!! Yes, that’s unfortunate. They die every single year from the flu, too. Hmmmmm. The younger people without comorbidities also die from the flu every year. Could there BE a correlation?
Sickening read that.
All required to justify cradle to grave vaccination.
The Nightingale hospital at the Excel centre has been dismantled without being used, although we have soaring cases in London.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13553463/nightingale-hospitals-sit-empty-despite-mutant-covid/
By all accounts, it had no loos or kitchens, but did have a furnace and a mortuary room.
So not exactly suitable for treatment or convalescing!
Hancock said back in April that it was ‘to deal with those who are sedated and intubated’.
Enough said.
Was to deal with his mates who didn’t have enough money, more like.
Perhaps we could volunteer Hancock to be sedated and intubated, it would be an improvement?
The headline in and of itself says it all:
“Shocking pics show Nightingale Hospitals lying empty as mutant Covid strain rips through UK”
It is indeed shocking that the Nightingale Hospitals are empty. If the mutant strain is to be feared, then why are these places not filled to bursting with patients? Or are these hastily constructed facilities not fit for purpose?
They are simply not needed and were only ever window dressing.
Anyone fancy joining me in contacting NHS England with FOI requests to ask them how many of the retired nurses and doctors that volunteered
1) they, NHSE have contacted and recruited;
2) how many of them are working; and
3) if there’s a difference between 1) and 2), to explain why.
The BS swallowed by the media is that the Nightingales were a PR stunt because there aren’t the staff to use them. That may be the case but, as ever, the MSM let the NHS off the hook so I want to ask their Senior Management who are paid handsomely what happened.
So lets put pressure on the NHS management. They are useless.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1274903/NHS-volunteers-COVID-19-coronavirus
How they must be laughing at us.
It is only able to treat people with covid and nearly everyone in hospital in in their being treated for other reasons and tests positive for covid. They aren’t actually ill with covid though.
Cases
Called at my local charity shop this morning.I have been visiting this shop for years.I know the lady who is usually in the shop and she accepted my reason for not wearing a face nappy from day 1.I just told her I refuse to wear one and she was ok with that.But, this morning there was a lady in there with more PPE than you see in an operating theatre.Her first words were (rather loudly)where is your mask you cant come in without a mask.I calmly said sorry but I am already in.She then lunged at me with a bottle of hand goo.I said I use my own hand wash and I was not intending to touch anything anyway.I could see she was starting to get really annoyed with me so I decided to leave.This woman needs help.She has been totally brainwashed like so many others.
Local electrical shop I had to visit this afternoon had the door locked and a press bell sign, owner seem literally terrified of people coming in. I was not allowed in as no mask, he said local covid marshalls told him he’d get fined £1000 if they found anyone inside without a mask. I showed him the govt guidelines and left never to return.
It’s horrific what they’ve done to people. They’ve made him mentally ill.
I started off feeling really pissed of and ended up with nothing but pity for him. Shops been there years but I doubt it’ll be around much longer.
same with our local shoe store. The proprietor (who we’ve known since moving to town 16 years ago) saw me enter without a mask and literally fled with a terrified look on his face!! No other customers in sight. We will likely come back for the going-out-of-business sale soon.
Truly awful. I expect quite a lot of businesses would be more easy-going were it not for the Govt protection-racket.
Id have goaded her a bit more and hopefully she would have ended up with a heart attack.
Went to the off license this evening. Never wear a mask and was the only one out of 5 in the queue and another 5 inside. No bother. However they’ve embraced the entire theatricals inside. Signs, perspex, floor markings, collection box for the NHS. I almost opened the whiskey as I left to steady myself. Utterly memorised by the dystopian smorgasbord of symbolic gestures to God Covid.
This has to stop.
The shops had to do that crap to even be allowed to open after the first lockdown. Note how tatty and worn they all look now in most shops. They haven’t been replaced since they were first put down.
Empaths, Apaths, Sociopaths and gaslighting
https://www.sott.net/article/268449-Empathic-people-are-natural-targets-for-sociopaths-protect-yourself
Taking advantage of people’s inherent good nature, the stock in trade of fraudsters and conmen. Sadly not a new phenomenon.
Very relevant to our current situation.
This is what we’re up against:
The latest daily update shows that at least 3,531 people have died from coronavirus over the past seven days, an increase of nearly 20% on the previous week.
From coronavirus??!!
Bastard Guardian. No wonder people are terrified!
Does it say how many have died from the flu?
(I think I can guess how many that might be!)
Flu deaths at least 3531.
More than I thought. Is that down on prior years?
I think it’s fairly safe to assume that all deaths “credited’ to Covid are likely flu deaths. That’s how the scam works.
3531 is a nice big number.
All the better to scare people with.
And the average age of these deaths was? with over 66 million people in the UK and babies continuing to be born I do not think the country is going to run out of people any time soon, indeed despite all the gloomy death figures it still looks possible that 2020 will see more registered live births than deaths.
Is this flu, pneumonia, Covid? Since the Government’s lumping all three together
This was criticized by some as discharges were for all categories. But they are not. They are all official NHS data for admissions and discharges every day for C-19.Amazing turnover.Not reflected in MSM/BBC
https://twitter.com/C0vid0/status/1341774894237949960/photo/1
London Hospitals
New admissions with C-19 in past 24hours 109
All C-19 discharges 297
What does this mean? That people are getting Rona in hospital and are being discharged with it?
I’m guessing here, but the difference can only be people who have been infected in hospitals. So if we lockdown hospitals then this thing goes away
Unfortunately, the mass testing with PCR has destroyed the usefulness with the NHS statistics during this seasonal wave. We need data hospitalisation because of Covid like illness and ICU for Covid like illness. That would reflect more truly the burden of C-19 in an ongoing pandemic. But now we have cases i.e. coming in for a hip fracture with PCR test pos. Registered as C-19 admission. Develop a serious complication post operatively, shock goes into ICU. Registered as C-19 ICU. Dies registered as C-19 death. Like comparing apples with pears. That person is not a C-19 case,not a C-19 hospitalisation and not a C-19 death but is it in the UK data!
Over 80% of all covid cases in hospitals have been diagnosed in hospital. It’s been the same right the way through.
People are admitted to hospital with SYMPTOMS not on the basis of testing. COVID19 is the disease and presents with broadly similar symptoms to influenza. A Pillar 1 test in hospital confirms the diagnosis (and rules out influenza) – hence location will be in hospital.
People baffle me. I’ve a friend over 80 who still runs a small business. She is a lockdown sceptic and furious with the Government for the damage they’ve caused and wishes they would listen to the scientists we admire here. Yet she has cancelled her Christmas plans to visit her daughter and won’t come in my house(as a vulnerable person, I go nowhere save church)as she wants to obey the law.
I have always been law-abiding, but these laws seem straight out of Alice in Wonderland such as it’s legal for my cleaner to hoover but not have a cup of tea with me. Telling people who you can see is a violation of human rights.
This thread is a good example of why people wear so many hats.
https://mobile.twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1341747532192382976
People do hold sceptical views but they also don’t want to stand out. Of you provide them space then they’ll shared their view, however, with others, they’ll revert to what they consider the social norm.
Well, as I’m in a reasonable and conciliatory mood just now I thought I might just take this opportunity to wish everyone here all good for Christmas and the New Year.
These good wishes extend to everyone on here, including those who I sometimes have disagreements with. My bark’s worse than my bite.
It’s been a really shit year for everyone and it’s hard to retain your sanity sometimes amid the masked madness and the government lies.
All the best !
Same to you John.
Merry Christmas!
Keep going sir, you are making a difference.
More than once I have caught myself before posting something with the thought: “I wonder what John P would make of this claim?“. I usually proceed regardless but I am still (just) rational, so thank you for reminding me of this.
Best Wishes John.
Glad to have your input. on here
Merry Christmas, stay strong my friend
Keep buggering on
Merry Christmas and “God bless us, every one.”
Merry Christmas John. Together we will triumph!
Happy Christmas John, let us indeed hope the nightmare will soon all be over.
(slight hiccup tonight, it looks as if the two Amazon vouchers I sent to my nieces got lost in the post, they just received empty envelopes. But a surprise delivery of shortbreads from my other niece.)
Report that to the PO. They used to be very good at catching posties on the rob.
Merry Christmas to you and all the best. Definitely hard to stay sane, so let’s forgive and forget!
Sorry, but no.
Your constant insults cannot be ignored.
I have neve met an intelligent person who needed to insult others to get their point across.
Please consider how you interact with others. You moan about bullying whilst calling other people dullards and idiots.
I can respect differing points of view, I cannot abide self appointed experts whose only retort is to belittle others.
I have never had an exchange with you, But I have had the misfortune to read your self absorbed “wisdom”
Good god man, gain some humanity, and some humility.
Peace to you and yours.
I hope Christmas and New Year is good for you. Look after yourself
Thats more like it John! All the best to you too…we need each other.
And to you John. I don’t have to agree with you to share the sentiment. It’s been a shit year.
The Midlands. Hospital admissions. Same now as at the beginning of Lockdown……. and all the way through lockdown. Send this to your MP & ask, exactly what was the point of bankrupting half the pubs & shops in your town?
it’s that time again:-
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
My hero, I absolutely revere the man. One day I hope to hear an Orthodox Mass at St Basil’s and lay flowers at his grave.
This is a very good and often seen quote these days.
The problem for good , generally non violent people from a generation who hasn’t had to fight in a martial setting, when is the moment at which on starts being willing to bludgeon the state aparachiks ?
Attempting mandatory vaccination.
Breaking and entering without warrants.
That sounds about right to me .
You are an inspiration for me KH. If I lived in Saffron Walden I’d be in your cafe every day, I must visit next year.
Any help you want, please pm me (hopefully I can work out how to use that!). Any printed material you want – menus, leaflets etc, I’m happy to volunteer my services.
This is important. Mina is one of the top US scientist very Mainstream in US.But he has been highly critical of PCR test using as an indicator of infectiousness and promoting LFT. Even our good Carl Heneghan was concerned about Deeks finding with UK University students using LFT.
But Mina says it proves LFT are good Ct value 29-34 are uninteresting and not spreading the disease.
“IMPORTANT: Particularly for UK There’s been a LOT of concern about UK rapid antigen test program. But here, the very tweet supposed to be showing it is failing, it shows it’s working well!! The only missed samples were all very LOW PCR RNA – EXACTLY as expected.”
https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1341638540095074308
We randomly sampled 10% (actually 710/7183) Innova test negatives and retested their samples with PCR (based on Ct<=35 on at least 2 genes defining a positive in our TurnKey lab). We found 6 false negative cases with Ct values of 29 29 31 31 33 and 34.
https://twitter.com/deeksj/status/1340975399128457216
https://twitter.com/carlheneghan/status/1340988493175111680
I’m really surprised that Prof Heneghan accepted Deeks’ findings at face value – he’s been all about ct values in the past. Good news, though.
Yes relly good news.See my comment below just published that LFT will detect the mutant variant.
Great stuff!
Self doubt creeps in as overall all cause mortality has been a bit high since October.
But the reality is that a highly contagious and deadly virus cannot be discriminatory.
‘In England, the year-to-date (March to November 2020) mortality rate for deaths due to COVID-19 in the most deprived areas was 252.0 deaths per 100,000 people, this was nearly three times the mortality rate in the least deprived areas (89.7 deaths per 100,000 people).’
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/november2020
So something else is clearly going on and your references confirm exactly what that is: PCR test unfit for diagnosis, just as its inventor stated it would be.
But we are now into a medico/political variant of McCarthyism.
Unfortunately that took four years to unravel.
“Self doubt creeps in as overall all cause mortality has been a bit high since October.”
No it hasn’t – it has been well within the average range. Where did you get that idea from?
Looks like there’s something going on – though I would have to be convinced that it’s not due to lockdown and medical neglect….
If that graph were reproduced with 10 years of data, current months would not look out of kilter. Last 5 years have been low mortality.
Sure. But I don’t believe that we are not already seeing the impact of neglect and monomania on health/mortality outcomes. I don’t see any need to panic about a slight increase but the underlying mechanism is surely interesting – especially since we will be told it’s all down to covid.
Excellent point. Stats have a way of focusing attention which is good but it’s just as important to explain what it doesn’t show.
Actually they would. The previous 10 years data showed largely similar trends with one exceptional year. Current mortality is about 17% above 10-year mean and 9% above 10-year max. The ratio is falling because deaths have been static for the past three weeks as lockdown2 fed through, and historic data rises due to winter respiratory infections. They’ll meet about Christmas. Peak death is the second week of the year normally.
Even if it was a bit higher cancer deaths should start to register by now.All that missed treatment and undiagnosed cancers
Therefore it could be used for HCW instead of PCR.If they were to having a rising virus load within hours (Ct 30 to Ct 20) they would experience symptoms and should anyway not work at all (asymptomatic spread exceedingly rare)
“The rise in viral load is swift. Cross from 40 to 30 to 20s within hours. The decay in viral RNA is slow, remaing in 30-40 range potentially for weeks. So, probabilistically, it is MUCH more likely (hours vs weeks) that anyone caught in the 30’s is on the way down, not up”
https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1341702704582811650
And it is confirmed that the LFT would detect the famous variant
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rapid-evaluation-confirms-lateral-flow-devices-effective-in-detecting-new-covid-19-variant
Excellent. Great posts!
Governments could just decide to restore human rights if they wanted to. The science is a smokescreen.
I see the cancel cabal have failed in their attempt to keep Michael Levitt out of professional conferences due to his Covid views. I wonder did any of them follow through on their threat to pull out if his attendance was confirmed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MLevitt_NP2013/status/1341470757440815105
Good news.. the man is a stalwart. I can’t begin to imagine the pressure these people must be under.
Well I’m disappointed to tell you the sheeple were queuing in the rain for up to an hour today at the hospital where I work for their vaccinations.. staff included. And they had appointments! That’s how desperate people are to get the vaccine. .
My colleagues excitement was uncontainable as they all made appointments and shared their experiences of how nice the staff were and that it was easy to book etc etc.. and how the second appointment was made already.
I had even tried explaining it wouldn’t prevent the them catching covid plus other disadvantages but it falls on deaf ears and they label me an anti vaxer.
Despressing.
Insanity
multiplied expotentially
So we have insanity expontentially rising, whilst COVID is massively decreasing in its nasty outcomes
I have no sympathy for them, if they lack critical thinking skills then that’s their tough luck. I am now taking the view that the sooner the sheep get their jabs then the sooner this pantomime ends and if we get our lives back as a result of their stupidity that’s fine with me. Harsh possibly, but they’ve brought it on themselves.
Yes agreed I guess the more idiots get it the more it might let us normal rational folk off the hook
The higher the uptake, the more pressure there will be on those who have not had it to submit. We will be blamed for the restrictions still being in place.
Possibly.
Let’s see what happens after they get the second dose.
Things might get ‘interesting’.
Tony Bliar is saying to speed up vaccinations everyone should get one dose in them by the end of January. Another medical mastermind alongside Bill Gates.
As if any better evidence of a mass agenda was going on.
Which vaccine did he take? Pfizer, Moderna orAstra -Zeneca? I presume that he is leading by example as a good statesman should.
only takes it the AIDS way which used to be an anacronym in the old days
It will not end until we stop it. They’ll continue with the false positive PCR farce and decide that the virus has mutated so extensively that now everyone needs to take each one of the new vaccines on a rotating schedule. It is permanent lockdown until the global population is at a level low enough to service the elite and nothing more. Only UK hope now is the Reform party in 4 years, but that is likely to be compromised, neutralised or have elections rigged against it (as has just been demonstrated). Alternatively we can hope for a moment when a trivial miscalculation incites rage in the sheeple – perhaps when Covid prevents strictly come dancing or something else devastating to sheeple lives along those lines.
By the way 2 colleagues had already had positive tests for it earlier in the year! So why the hell would they have the vaccine? Beggars belief
fucking stupid? can you think of another reason?
Usual thing: Thick As Fuck.
Good for them. If they grow two heads I know to avoid it, if they still look ok in ten years I might give i a go myself.
They might just about become intelligent if they have two heads. Maybe that’s the plan?
The main danger with these coronavirus vaccines from the professionals I’ve listened to is when confronted with the wild virus all the animals used in previous trials in the past have resulted in death.
From what I understand these new vaccines haven’t gone through exhaustive animal trials. Instead they’ve appeared within months, are not licenced, the makers are fully indemnified against harm. This is now a human guinea-pig trial. Its utter madness.. and people are getting excited about being injected.. its beyond stupidity..
Do you have any linjs for the animal claim, George?
Research the Mrna vaccine developments . These have been proposed as a miracle method for almost 20 years but have never been used on people .
There are many docs relating to failed animal experiments .
Just look up ADE — antibody dependent enhancement. Robert Kennedy Jr. has stuff on his Children’s Defence Fund web site about it and has talked about it in past coronavirus vaccine trials, specifically with ferrets.
Why would anyone with even the slightest measure of intelligence volunteer to be injected with an unlicensed, hardly tested, highly experimental and liability free brew, purporting to be a vaccine. And all this for an infection, with a survival rate of over 99.7%. You need to get out of that place.
My sister-in-law works for a company that runs a large chain of nursing and care homes. They have been told that the company wants them to receive the Covid vaccine and it will pay an unspecified sum as a bonus to those who get vaccinated. To qualify for the bonus the employees have first to indemnify the company in writing, that they will not make a claim against it, should there be an adverse vaccine reaction. This absolutely stinks.
This confirms that although the manufacturers have indemnity, employers do not.
The level of desperation across the board for people to take a Covid-19 vaccine is seriously disturbing and unsettling.
Is it possible they want to end all this so normality can return or is that just being far too charitable to the unthinking sheeple? Genuine question BTW.
If so, they are going to be sorely disappointed and putting their health at risk into the bargain.
I think care providers might be aspiring to that. It must be a nightmare having staff off all the time isolating, on top of usual sickness and generally being short-staffed. They are almost certainly fantasising though. Surely testing will continue because staff will still be considered a risk – though i still dont’ understand whether ‘vaccination’ would lead to a positive test result (seems likely?)
must be a nightmare, but they can always close there BUSINESS, its not compulsory. Treat the staff well, treat the patients/customers well, be human and humane. Stop treating the everyone like a fucking one off teat to suck dry. Oh sorry Im not thinking about England, that humane, caring, 5th most wealthy country in the universe, I was thinking we are talking about Zimbabwe.Care providers is not a description of care homes that I am familiar with they do not provide(by and large and the more state funded the less they care) anything than can be described as care for the elderly.
We have already been told that there is no evidence that the vaccine will prevent infection or reduce transmission. We have also been told that the vaccine will not bring an end to the demeaning Covid restrictions and that things will carry on much as before vaccination. Something very sinister is going on and in my view it’s depopulation by way of vaccination, a well telegraphed globalist aim.
Sadly I must agree with you Rowan. When I first saw the massive reduction of the UK population on https://www.deagel.com/forecast I pretty much dismissed it. I certainly don’t now. Along with the screenshots from the World Bank saying the Covid 19 project had an end date of March 2025, I’m starting to fear the worst..
The evil nature and audacity of what is going on is quite breathtaking, but for me it’s the only scenario that ticks all the boxes. Of course, in war it’s always best to know exactly what your enemy is up to, no matter the eventual outcome.
I have no doubt the banks are playing a big role in this. Ernst Wolff says: ‘we are witnessing a globally orchestrated, fascistic finance coup’
Ernst Wolff #Corona: The Collapse of the System
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8LYjOEib9iI
My opinion is that you are wise to fear the worst.
Everyone should develop a backup plan/strategy to give them a way of surviving without govt support for many months if not much longer.
One of the goals is to make everyone totally dependent on the state, and therefore controllable.
I go along with that. UBI is the thin end of the wedge.
Some people have nothing and are surviving on state benefits. What will happen to them?
They will get the UBI .
In my opinion the main outcome is of much reduced living standards/expectation across the board. Which is OK up to a point. eg if ones looks behind the curtain at the health service planning groups huge changes are envisioned and normal service won’t be coming back . This is where it all starts to fit together,
ie UBI, health passes, etc all this is done on the smart phone.
We are into govt digital currency rollout and access to money.Then we are into the thin end o the social credit system.
For most poor people the biggest changes will come in the health system which will become more remote, work-seeking will be under much greater scrutiny.
Once they get people used to the regular vaccination habit then the “advantages/benefits” of injected health monitoring nano particles and on to id chips.
Everyone has a lot to lose but the poorest probably won’t be as hard hit as the main bulk of people.
People with overextended debt or financial commitments that are unworkable if their circumstances change need to beware of significant reductions in living standards.
The govts will bale them out but at the cost of becoming owned by the govt.
Some sectors will do very well ie anything connected to the burgeoning ai or biotech industries.
The real Rubicon here is the vaccine and the loss of personal autonomy over ones own person . The individual must decide where that line is drawn.
The Globostatists don’t care about that we are just germy plebs to be controlled, managed and exploited, just the usual plan but on a much bigger scale.
Don’t let John P see that post
He’s busy working on a new conspiracy theory as we speak..
I think the answer will become clear in 2021. Assuming for a second that this is a safe and effective vaccine (which of course cannot be known after such insufficient clinical trials), there is no medical reason why anyone other than the vulnerable section of the population should be vaccinated (just as is the case with the influenza vaccine).
If the pressure starts mounting for the entire population to have the shots, then it is not a vaccine, but something else. Speculation as to what this might be covers a wide range of possibilities which have been discussed extensively on here already.
Covid-19 is likely nothing more than very expensively rebranded flu. Those pushing a vaccine, for an infection that doesn’t exist, are bound to be up to no good.
If nothing else, the one thing I must accomplish in 2021 is not to take the vaccine under any circumstances. Let the chips fall where they may. Whatever will be, will be.
Covid vaccination seems rather like playing Russian roulette with a fully loaded revolver.
I’m a bit slow, so it took me a minute to work that one out.. ha ha
The elderly and vulnerable might be more vulnerable from the vaccine. Why is the Government so keen for the elderly to have it? The care home scandals does not elicit trust
Absolutely, RO. That’s the key part of this; if they really push the vaccine, even to those who are not susceptible, there is clearly a hidden agenda.
The system, apparatus , has been deliberately created to coerce people into taking the vaccine. People don’t want to speak out because of the quasi religious fervour attached to all this.
The only way to counter it in the work place is for people to do like their forebears and form collective action societies in their workplaces . The unions at local level may help but the top levels are inculcated into the creed . It requires people putting their heads over the parapet, that’s a hard initial step to take. But others will follow.
For some reason unions, such as Unite and Unison have chosen the lockdown side. Mask virtue-signalling is rife. They even sell their own branded face masks FFS! Total betrayal
That’s easily explained Ben. For years union leaders have been luxuriating on six figure salaries. They’ve joined the ‘big club’ and there not going to give that up for the bottom feeders. So to sum it up.. they’ve been bought off..
Correct. They are both traitors and parasites
Yes it can only be political or financial I suppose, but it might come back to bite them on the arse. They can’t have a handle on the feeling of the general populous who, in my view, are probably in their heart of hearts slightly sceptical about the vaccine and the whole lockdown shit, and unless they are vulnerable are probably likely to see through the crap, they might wonder why their union is not actually on their side!
I try to talk to people each time I go shopping to plant a counter-narrative in their minds. Plesae do it as much as you can; it’s the only way we can get people to open their minds.
Just something innocuous as an opener like “I’m sick of this, aren’t you”, gauge the reaction and then add a few snippets e.g. average age of those dying is 82 and most have serious/terminal illnesses already, children are now 6 months behind in their schooling etc.
Today, I tried it with 2 shop assistants; neither was particularly receptive with a “needs must” type answer. I can’t stand that so said “no it’s not. This is an overreaction and more deaths from cancer will follow – you try getting a dr’s appointment now.” She looked away at her feet (probably a combo of “don’t disagree with a customer/I’m a bedwetter too” but her colleague agreed that she’d tried visiting her GP and had problems.
They’re on short hours and the shop was empty. When it closes now we’re going into T4 and they lose their jobs, maybe they’ll think differently.
Probably achieved nothing but at least I’m doing whatever I can and it’s the only way to get at least some alternate viewpoints out there. The BBC isn’t going to any time soon and I’m now getting such a thick skin that it’s water off a duck’s back.
I’ll keep going. Everyone of us here should try to as much as we can.
Absolutely.
Our best weapon is persistent truth telling.
Is there any way she can take that to one of the more sceptical papers, the Daily Mail perhaps? Anonymously of course. Or perhaps Toby can run with it on here.
That would be up to her and of course I must respect that.
Looks like there is a chance our loving benefactor Bill Gates might need a better vaccine to a more impressive killer disease to make this trick work and get his dreams past the line.
Looks like there is a chance our loving benefactor Bill Gates might need a better vaccine to a more impressive killer disease to make this trick work and get his dreams past the line.
I’m not too sure about that. The last thing they would want is for too many people to start dropping like flies straight after the injection, as that would really would frighten off the masses. The ideal terminator vaccine would start to do its dirty work after 12 months or so, with death a year or two later. This would allow time for the vaccination program to be largely over and also give enough of a gap for “plausible deniability”. Of course, the still healthy vaccine refuseniks would need to have been rounded by then to be sent on a one way ticket to the holding camps, soon to be springing up like weeds.
Because their insurance doesn’t cover them and I bet it also doesn’t make a difference between “protection” and no protection. Mine doesn’t
Very likely so, but the lack of morality by the employers is appalling, but no doubt will be very typical.
“To qualify for the bonus the employees have first to indemnify the company in writing, that they will not make a claim against it, should there be an adverse vaccine reaction. “
Unless the law’s changed dramatically in the past few years, such an indemnity is utterly worthless, except perhaps to deter claims for as long as the person in question never gets any proper advice.
Nothing that unusual about an employer riding roughshod over lowly paid employees.
Has the Government or Pharma applied pressure or incentives directly to this company? What is the motivation?
It seems companies want brownie points from governments and always remember points mean prizes.
and the reply should be, you can fuck right off
That would also be mine.
Even taking the narrative at face value (I know), we have done everything the bedwetters are anxious about:
Closed schools
Shut pubs
Locked down
Mandated masks
Cancelled Christmas.
Meanwhile, the place where you are most likely to get Rona – hospital and it’s workers – are revered like Gods.
Yet “cases” still rise.
It’s a topsy turvy logic with these deranged fuckwits.
Ahh but the NHS is staffed only by angels, don’t you see. The rest of us out here in the real world pointing out this is OTT nonsense, bring some perspective into the equation, get back to normality and (whisper it quietly – earn a living) are just money-motivated scum. SCUM d’you hear. Now clap and worship, damn you – clap.
I am always puzzled that angels are good. Or have nice voice.
I am sure there are also angels who do bad things and sing like a rusty pipe.
Fallen angels.
Satan.
Hancock. I do like a game of word association!
That list is not finished. To come:
House parties
Off licenses (cut them off at source)
Home brewers
People who have a supply
Then, once we have all who might even conceive of having a good time locked down, we will then say, maybe, we should reconsider
Am I the slowest person on the planet? Well done LS for ditching the adverts – at least they don’t seem to be loaded to my screen, only just noticed. A big improvement not to see mask adverts. I barely dare press refresh incase they come back! Well done and thanks.
Just watching Lord of the Rings. Whitty is remarkably like Wormtongue. Perhaps he has a crush on Princess Nut Nut.
As well as a deal with Saruman- sorry, misspelt – Pfizer.
We need a Fellowship…
… to defeat the Magesterium.
And the whole show run by Sauros …. Sorry, Sauron.
Not sure if this should be in a forum but I briefly saw a customer today and we idly chatted about Covid etc when she mentioned that she had received a letter from the NHS(?) asking if she would consent to her 9 year old child taking part in a Covid vaccine trial.
I wondered if it was a scam but she thought not and, perhaps understandably,will refuse consent.
There appears to be comment online about the Oxford vaccine concern looking for “recruits” of a young age.
How young do they plan to vaccinate if this is true?
I’m sorry if this has been posted before.
Stay sane,eh?
Sounds legit to me. They are bound to want to trial it on children sooner or later – more money to be made.
Hancock, has kids this age, as does Jenrick – ideal candidates.
Exactly. Let the powers that be use their kids as guinea pigs and see how keen they are then to promote the untested vaccines.
I thought Hancock was a virgin!never knew he had kids……dear help them.
I know, it’s remarkable, but he has 3!
News like that should be spread far and wide.
Just what kind of person would offer up their child as a ‘guinea pig’?
Plenty unfortunately.
Yep, all those screaming that their children are not ‘safe’ and their lives are being put at risk every day.
I like your idea of a support group place.
If I had a car I would even drive down from Bury ST Edmunds!
The cafe where I worked we had a mental health group meeting anyway, they were very relieved when I told them the maximum of 6 (back in the summer) did not apply to them.
I tried to stir scepticism as much as I could.
An analysis of woke at the BBC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEwlpsGQlZU
Sorry to hear you had an unpleasant experience here on Sunday, kh! I was busy elsewhere over the weekend, and it looks as though any exchanges were deleted, since a search of Sunday’s comments doesn’t bring up any posts by you.
FYI, anyone with a streaming music subscription can help get Boris Johnson is a Fucking Cunt to number one by playing the song on repeat all night.
Every 100 plays counts as one sale, and given that the song is only a minute long you should be able to rack up quite a few sale-equivalents by tomorrow. Just kick it off on your phone and turn the volume down.
(I wonder how much of the tax payer’s money is being spent by the 77th madly buying copies of LadBaby’s song to keep The Kunts off the number one slot?
)
I’m more worried about Keir Starmer
amoazon dont play it now alexa just blanks it last night it played fine, a bug perhaps?
Lol! Could potentially be one of the best Christmas No 1s of all time!
Not sure if you’re able to say precisely where you are but I’m not far from Saffron and nothing would give me more pleasure at the moment than to do something as normal as visiting a café. I just find the covid stuff far too depressing and have given up visiting such places since summer. Do please let me know if you can.
Thank you! Looks lovely. I hope things get a bit easier. I can’t send PMs (possibly because I don’t post here often enough) but feel free to message me. Otherwise, I’ll try to keep an eye out here m
Welcome to your first run through of The Never Ending Loop, please take a seat and make sure you’re wearing your mask!
If the virus is likely already all over the place it’s not been having much of an effect has it?
Indeed, now spreading for at least 13 months.
Make that 15 or 16
10,000+ of mutant variants and fresh hysteria over 2 just as the vaccines start to roll out? Funny that..
Very sorry to hear all this. I’m in HMP London, we’re in tier 4 and have not been at work since last week when we were put into Tier 3 initially.
The other day I posted here my dad’s offensive remark after Mr Bart & I thank my parents for their lovely Christmas gift. Rather odd for someone who always taught me to question everything.
Anyway, I’m done with them for the time being.
Stay strong. You’ve been an inspiration to me long may that continue.
KBO
you have to laugh:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAYITZRdJk
JP nails it once again
Hancock said the same globalist chant as Jacinda of NZ, pretend you have the virus and everyone around you has the virus, its like a cult, where you have your mind numbing mantra’s
They all sing from the same hymn sheet. Globally. Quite organised it seems.
No. They just can’t think for themselves in order to come up with something original to say. They hear something they think is clever and parrot it. Empty headed morons.
I actually think these clever manipulative words are very powerful and come from the keen brains of highly literate and educated people who are paid very well. Yes I despise them.
Morons then repeat these words.
And people lap it up. Lock step, they know the drill. Isn’t it insane? The level of robotisicism (is that a word? A countdown dictionary corner moment?) in the general public?
I naively thought that maybe, just maybe, Tier 4 might provoke some sort of meaningful backlash. But no, people just conform; it’s incredible.
Remember the words of St. Jacinda: ‘We are your only source of truth’.
whoa
To be fair, her actual words were: ‘Dismiss anything else. We will continue to be your single source of truth’. Still, quite a claim…
And if I pretend for 10 days I become immune
Spoke to a relative in NZ last night and I think the love of “horsey” might be beginning to wane from what she told me.
I agree, relative in Wellington is the same, upbeat at first, now not so much
There are families where people have “escaped” from here in the UK in time and headed home to NZ, who are now locked up in quarantine. Not ideal for xmas!
Amazed how many in New Zealand have fallen for this.
bedwetters, pussies in boots, they have the Kiwi rugby team and then they have the masses??? how does that work
Well the Haka is just a show, we can beat them!
Massive jump in people wanting a PCR Chemistry Test before Xmas so they can see their Mum ‘safely’ = Massive jump in false positive rate because underskilled and understaffed backstreet chemistry laboratories cannot cope with massive Pre-Xmas surge in demand which was not predicted by useless managers and politicians and SAGE. So here we are in Tier 4 in Hampshire. I am no longer allowed to swim in a pool with 3 other people. I do hate this useless unscientific government. Total idiots. All of them, with one or two rare exceptions.
The people taking the tests are the bigger idiots, by far.
Bellends drawing straws to see who gets to cancel their own limited Christmas plans. Brainwashed imbeciles.
And how much is the bonus they are paying staff in labs to work over xmas?
Otherwise they might just as well declare all these test + now.
these fuckers were queueing round the block near me, whole famailies. WHAT THE FUCK FOR you cunts? My neighbour of 85 had a test so she knew she didnt have it, if she had it shed know in an instant. FFS Ask them to pay for the test and see how many take it. Fucking everything for free society is insane.
This is true. There is a massive increase in people going for tests so they don’t kill granny this Christmas. The figures will fall next week.
These bastard “experts” just will NOT give up!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/23/english-regions-should-go-into-covid-tier-4-now-scientists-say
Before the announcement [of the wider application of house arrest], Christina Pagel, professor of operational research at University College London [not a medical person], said waiting until Boxing Day to put more areas into tier 4 was too slow.
She told Times Radio: “We are in an incredibly dangerous situation … If we just wait and we let it spread to the north, where things are much more under control, then the whole country is on fire and I just feel like we have to stop it now and protect the north from the south, effectively.”
She added: “We’re constantly behind the curve. I think we have to put the whole country in tier 4 today, especially in those tier 2 areas around tier 4 that are just going through the roof. Why are we letting people mix at Christmas? You are just asking for trouble.”
Just go and boil your bloody head!
and then boil it again
I said yesterday that the government will put the whole country in Tier 4 on Xmas Day, making the announcement in the afternoon on Xmas Eve.
Wow, the whole country will be on fire – so now spontaneous human combustion is a covid symptom?
I thought they would wait until boxing day for lockdown III.
Looks like those shit scared of letting it rip are going to have to buckle up
Their real worry is nature will beat the vaccines. Especially as more contagious means less virulent.
Yes, they have to be able to claim they have beaten the ‘killer virus’ before it fizzles out, otherwise it will be obvious even to the unenlightened that the ‘lockdowns’ have been entirely counter-productive.
These bastards need their salaries reduced to the minimum wage immediately. You can bet your boots these ideas would be memory holed pretty damn sharpish..
They’re worried that people will get together at Christmas and realise there is no deadly virus rampaging through the UK. That’s what they’re afraid of
Pagel is, I think, In the so called Independent SAGE who seem not to have been given as much air time as a few months ago but I think she was on the “news” last night.
If SAGE is bad, the Independent SAGE are collectively madder than a box of frogs.
Spoke to a nice supermarket check out lady in a large tescos today. She is very sceptical. The entire time since March no staff have caught Covid.
On another odd note…….a 3rd of Covid deaths here in Northern Ireland were people with dementia. They are now telling those people to shield.
And those dementia deaths are higher on average this year on a UK level. There is something there which I don’t have the time to look at.
This was back in June:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/covid-19-causing-10000-dementia-deaths-beyond-infections-research-says
I thought this might sober people up way back then, but apparently nobody gave a ****.
Isolation in care homes is the soft answer. However, I’d have to guess its more than that given the numbers.
Well I’m willing to believe they’ve been murdering people at this point tbh.
Yep, that drug mentioned earlier today that was 50% over average prescriptions in April.
Has anyone in the family with demetia. Shield? Covid in my opinion is a godsend to most dementia patients in phase 3 or later. Life isn’t worth living when you dont know who you are, who I am and what day it is. Having been through it with 2 grandmothers, and my mother, I can tell you its a blessing. Anyone who says keeping a corpse alive for a year or two for the sake of the family having a few more months is nuts and after they come out of the experience I guarantee if they see the inhumane treatment for off the scale money of their relative they will hate the NHS, hate the council and hate the government for the shitty useless and totally incompetent efforts that they call care. You cant say just let them die, but the reality is they need a humane death, not 2 years of total mental incompetence and then a slow drift into pneumonia or dehydration when they cant swallow and a few days on morphine and then goodnight Vienna. I didnt live to expect that, I want to die with my boots on. If Im 80+ Covid a motorcycle accident or a heart attack will give me that. dementia fuck that.Live life when your time is up have aheat attack its the easiest way out, Dementia is hell on earth
This is so true. Thank you.
I’ve had a similar experience in supermarket with checkout lady (both of us unmasked!) – I am slightly hopeful the true Brits might be waking up at last!
could it be that they know it’s all a big lie?
https://twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1341834363068100610
Great find. It’s the same everywhere of course.
I am in another country and the content is blocked.
Can you give me an idea what it is about and whose Twitter that is?
Thanks.
The Twitter post (by a John Cooper) provides a link to this:
https://www.heritage.org/data-visualizations/public-health/covid-hypocrisy-policymakers-breaking-their-own-rules/
Cheers Richard.
Well, if I really thought such a deadly disease was going about – one that justified these measures, then not only would I not break these rules; I wouldn’t go to these meetings.
They know it’s a lie.
Therein lies the real problem
So what would everyone say are their expectations or hopes for the next few months/2021?
For me…
1) EXPECTATIONS
2) HOPES
I more or less concur with your expectations. However I think anything less than Tier 3 at any point in 2021 is ambitious. Also, the economy is not mentioned (e.g. 10 million unemployed after the end of furlough, total collapse of high street retail, travel and hospitality sectors etc.).
The Oxford vaccine is likely to be approved by the MHRA next week, so your first hope will be fulfilled. Looking at the rest of your list of hopes, I am shocked that they sound so wonderful. Shows you just how much our lives have changed in 2020.
Personally it varies depending on my good/bad days. All I expect for certain is we will keep resisting as much as we can, come what may.
Agreed. Resistance is a moral obligation. But I have a low opinion of the human these days
I have no expectations because this is unprecedented. Never thought the media, politicians and the NHS could lie and distort as they have. It’s quite shocking. Also, never thought there were so many good Nazis in the UK. The Left and the unions have totally betrayed humanity
I hope Keir Starmer doesn’t become PM. If that happens, we’ll be in big trouble
We’ll all be very grey as well
I wish!
I think this is way too optimistic, they are on a roll. If they are willing to screw Christmas over, destroy vast swathes of businesses, borrow money ad infinitum and cry wolf about “mutants” then I expect more horror stories, more blaming of those who resist vaccines and more stringent use of tiers and restrictions into next winter.
They will also start to tie the narrative into the Great Reset and the benefits of having a “controlled” and “safe” society.
We ain’t seen nothing yet.
Right now your expectations look like my best case. I haven’t got the imagination to think what new hells they can come up with at the drop of a hat. They have shown that they have no moral boundaries, that’s what scares me.
Yes, I’m definitely travelling more in expectation than hope right now.
Hope: Violence
Expectations: Violence
I have one hope for the new year and that’s a great reset. But not the one they’re planning on.
I hope to drink at least twice my own weight in white wine, finish reading Ulysses after 40 years trying and hit that V5 boulder problem at the climbing wall.
All at the same time ?! Respect …
Expectations: They will keep digging their hole deeper and deeper, unable to reverse out of it until we are at the point of executing anti-vaxers with flak cannons.
Hopes: One of them will monumentally fuck it up and let the cat out of the bag irreversably (my money is on Jenrick, but it could be any world politician).
I agree-maybe everyone in Tier 3/4 by the 30th Dec and no let up until end of Feb.
“% of people vaccinated so far vs % ‘required to ease restrictions” will be the key.
In my book I’m keeping my hands in my pockets re spending until there is a relaxation in the rules. I’ll do my own trade off: relax the rules-I spend money.
Bill de Blasio Mayor New York
Hooray covid tyranny!
“We’re going to have sheriff’s deputies go to the home or the hotel of every single traveler coming in from the UK.”
https://twitter.com/nj_hill/status/1341815172780990465
There goes that dream New York Christmas break
Two days before Christmas, and I am thoroughly miserable. Unable to even get the tree up. The turkey is still in the freezer. I’m not miserable because the perpetual state of things has taken me by surprise. I’m miserable, because it hasn’t. 2020 – as utterly shit as it was – will be the last good year we ever had. New Year’s Eve isn’t going to be exciting. It’s going to feel like a death.
I came back from my last (ever?) foreign trip in early March 2020. Three weeks later we were in lockdown. The rest, as they say, is history.
You’re not alone, although losing mum is a big contributor for me.
Yup, I feel you on that one. Although – in a twisted way – I’m relieved my mother doesn’t have to go through this nonsense now.
Mine neither.
Same with me. My mother died in January after many bedridden years with MS. She was just developing some dementia and it would have been horrible for her to see her carer and others in masks. I’m so relieved that she is not around for this dystopia.
This mini thread has given me a Christmas idea: raise a glass to missing Mums.
Best wishes to you all.
Gotta get up and fight, Tylean – or they win.
Cook the f***ing turkey – have a drink or three – sing loud and long.
Yep, sing loud, but make sure to defrost the Turkey
Indeed! I’ll have to do it in water now. Not enough time to fridge defrost!
You’ve still got time normally takes 24hrs. Don’t let them win. Have your Christmas as close to normal as possible.
I’ve been….. that’s the problem…. I’ve been fighting and prepping and speaking the truth since the very beginning of the hysteria. I’m exhausted, and none of my efforts made any difference. No on has listened to me…. I’ve just lost friends who stopped replying to me. Even my own sister ghosted me. One family suicide from lockdown. My plate was already three times as full as your average able-bodied person (of which, I’m not) before all this kicked off, and I have nothing left to give.
Get the turkey out of the freezer then go to bed.
Sleep helps (provides an escape, anyway)
Stay strong ; I sure loads of us will be here on Christmas day, sober or not.
You are never alone,
We might be few, but they will know our names, make them fucking earn it, every fucking inch.
I swear I’ll take some of the cunts with me
I wish I had words of comfort. Your plate sounds very full, but I agree that you should cook the turkey and not let them win. Celebrate to the extent you can and don’t communicate with anyone who isn’t already on your side. For at least a few days don’t bother trying to convince anyone of anything and just relax and take care of yourself. I know it’s dispiriting — we’re in total lockdown as of Boxing Day, but some family members are breaking the rules to come and visit and that gives me some comfort. Hang in there; you’ve got lots of friends here who don’t need convincing of anything.
A few drinks might help though, lol!
I’ve been taking a lot more empties to the bottle bank since this nonsense started!
Hopefully Scotland will be returned to sanity some time soon and when it does we can come up your way again without let or hindrance and say hi.
I know how you feel. I’m just not interested in Christmas this year. What the hell is there to celebrate?
What makes me feel worse about it is that my little ones are, naturally, so excited about Santa coming and the rest. Sort of adds guilt to my glumness.
Then again none of this is down to me, I didn’t do it, and I haven’t gone insane. Fuck the lot of them.
Is the word futile unknown to them?
We need to stay angry, how bloody dare they wreck our lives like this
They are playing a simple game of psychology. They want to engender learned helplessness.
creating a cult is not hard, if you keep repeating the same things they stick, with some
Certainly isn’t hard and it has been done many times before, just not on this scale or time frame.
The problem is that this whole thing seems to resemble Heaven’s Gate Away Team more than Christianity.
I am looking forward to lots of confrontations with colleagues in 2021. They are going to be sick of the sight of my name. Eventually they’ll be rid of me of course.
Same here Richard. I’m getting more and more vocal at work and it is beginning to show some success – interestingly I have noticed much more success when challenging it in a group rather than individually (it’s like I have more credibility if I do it against a big herd). New year’s resolution is going to be to not hold back and say it how it is all the time. I may get fired but I’m lucky enough to have in demand skills so until the economic destruction manifests fully, I can get a new job and repeat.
Yes, you’re quite right…. anger is better than depression! But goddamn it, I’m so tired. Who has the methamphetamines? Lol!
I agree completely. Like many here, I will not wear a mask and have suffered abuse for that stance. I have protested and marched. I have reasoned with people. I have put up posters. I have tried persuasion, empathy, humour, contempt, confrontation, indifference.
Like many, I pinned my hopes on just making it to a normal, family Xmas, worry about the rest later in the new year, but even that has now been crippled.
I know that I cannot just sit back and watch us all go down this path, for my daughter if not even for me.
But my question now is what can we do?
I have to believe, from the way that people throw off their mask upon leaving a store, from how busy cafes and pubs were tonight, that the majority follow these rules but do not agree.
But all the time we are marginalised and kept to forums and chat rooms, we are alone.
WE have to organise now. This is no longer panic and a government blunder. No government is THAT useless. They are arrayed against the people. We need to fight back. I am a former Corbyn voting remainer, happy to stand alongside Boris voting brexiteers and anyone else who values freedom and an end to this dictatorship. Enough is enough. We must form a political union and put partisan differences aside.
Heartily agree.
Local offline groups -as well as online – is the way to go.
Building resistance from the ground up.
Trying my hardest to stay sane. Another holiday cancelled, lockdown on boxing day with no reprieve, schools look to be closed, my husbands starting to lose work, not sure if I’ll have the one part time job left after Christmas, the idiots down south scaremongering with mutant virus, the witch in Edinburgh scaring the Scots even more, more people wearing face cloths outside, men turning to mush and jumping out my way when trying to pass me, I’m 5ft and just over 8 stone so definitely scary, heck if I coughed it would hit their midriff, I know I won’t be rescued by any of them in a real crisis and the best part to this shit is thee event of this shit y year, more door step shite, the Christmas jingle. These parents are encouraging everyone to stand on their doorstep tomorrow at 6pm and ring a bell for 2 flipping minutes to spread cheer and “After this very difficult year it will be an amazing memory for the kids and communities”
Pass me the sick bucket someone and ask Scotty to beam me up please.
Anger is the absolute right emotion.
Perhaps we should stand on our doorsteps tomorrow at 6pm and play Boris Johnson is a Fucking Cunt. That would certainly spread some cheer for me.
(I’ll tell you what, I’m really enjoying typing “Boris Johnson is a Fucking Cunt” into search engines. And I’ve been singing that song to myself all day. Shame there isn’t a line in there about Wanksock, but you can’t have everything.)
Pfizer C-19 vaccine.Anaphylaxis.Number 11 Maine(1/8000).Number 12 Alabama(1/15000) number 13 New York( 1 in 30000)
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1341870979874779137/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1341868069480755200
Interesting stats as an unanticipated output from Singapore’s rotten treatment of its migrant workforce i.e. banging them up for the duration.
https://www.aier.org/article/singapores-covid-experience-and-overestimated-death-rates/
From the article:
“The most interesting statistic to come out of this incident is that despite all the horrific circumstances these migrant workers endured, there were only two deaths and 25 admissions to the ICU. With a virus prevalence rate of over 152,000 that gives us an infection fatality rate of around .0013% and a hospitalization rate of around .016%.”
I heard something similar last night re the UK prison population. Not sure how valid. Early on rampant infection was mentioned but nothing recently.
Local source says reports of high C-19 infection in Sheppey prisons (one alleged origin of Kentish Flu) all balls.
I meant to add “…banging them up for the duration and testing the f out of them.”
For anyone out there looking to reset their scepticism on Christmas Day, set the day up nicely, Richie Allen is doing two hours of his show.
https://mobile.twitter.com/richie_allen?lang=en
https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/
From a fellow Essex boy. Says exactly what’s wrong with the world right now..
https://twitter.com/EssexPR/status/1341701070742036480
I cant open with tables 2m apart yet half my Insta are posting pics on aeroplanes to Dubai/Tenerife (good luck to them)
Weird pandemic
I’m in Southend, if you and yours ever fancy a pint, its on me
And somewhat against popular opinion I can use both a Knife and fork
Is the pink toothbrush still there in reighley?
Contact us — The pink toothbrush
I’m 54 mate, it’s not exactly my local.
If you are ever in Southend join the local resistance.
Had many a happy night in there early 2000s when I lived in wickford
I now have my own resistance back in Lancashire. But if I ever get back down that neck of the woods ill be up for a pint in sawfend.
I noted with interest the following from the professor Angus Dalgleish (Scottish by any chance?) interview in relation to the coming lockdown: “How long are you going to do this?… This is not going to be the last of these variants… Are you going to keep locking down until the economy is unsalvageable, because it is getting pretty close to that. People are bereft… their firms have… collapsed…they’re not going to survive because of this”.
N ow there has been some speculation that the craven UK public will go along with this nonsense however bad things get economically. I know well enough things are bad. I may be way off. Still, I wonder. My experience is that peo0ple don’t like having money taken from then. Think of the poll tax riots (when the island of Eigg talked about independence from the UK to avoid it. Or the congestion charge where even in left wing student town Manchester, a large majority voted against. If the economy does become “unsalvageable”, with all that that implies, I wonder if there might just be a peasants revolt. I would tentatively suggest that one of two things might happen in the next thgree to six months – either there will be a change in policy (probably coinciding with a natural reduction in “cases” in the spring), or opposition to this nonsense will markedly increase.
Btw. if anyone has any idea how bad the fallout from this will get, I’d be interested to know. e already have one war in Europe, for example, and I rather hope there won’t be any more
ps 1945th!
The real shitshow begins with hyperinflation, or with the measures governments take to try and stop hyperinflation – like putting limits on the amount you can spend per day.
Mark my words – this whole economy/society is going down and not even a fake pandemic can save it.
Is property a good buy now? Or making extra mortgage payments? Be interested to hear people’s thoughts about how best to ameliorate oneself from at least some of the economic shit heading our way.
If you can buy cash…. yes. Mortgage? I personally wouldn’t touch it. Shift out of bonds and currency reserves. Tangibles are best. Metals in your possession. (Possession is 90% of the law and all that).
Ultimately depends on your personal situation of course and what is you plan to do to safeguard yourself. For us, that was goig off grid. For some, it’s buying gold and silver. Others are buying food and livestock. It takes a lot of thinking and looking at where you are now, what you want the future to look like and what the people ruling this shitshow want the future to look like.
China cyber currency ?
The problem with bricks and mortar : They know it’s there and they can easily tax it more …and more
The entire western economy will collapse next October 2021 (as per the plan)
Grab some shares in Tech, some Gold coins (in your hand) no too much cash.
Expect Martial law the full works, almost impossible to survive what’s coming.
Everything will be Verboten / confiscated you (me /we) wont survive it, might be worth a try though just in case they fuck it up
Despite my Drunken Essex sweary persona, I was the head of a Treasury desk in the City for 20 years. (At a large Japanese Bank) I even have a worthless degree in Economics ( I am a sound money “mises” man Myself, not that anyone cares about sound money anymore.)
Alchol is affecting typing skills, soz for typo’s etc
I paid off mortgage with savings. Not sure if a good move but feels better. Now investing in crypto.
Any recommendations for the best exchanges to use for a first-time buyer of crypto?
The best exchange i used was binance. I’d be careful with crypto though it’s had a bullish run but due a correction IMHO.
Also, the whole ordeal of holding your crypto in a wallet is a bit of a faff in itself or certainly it was for me a year or so ago. Not trying to neg though good luck to those who do invest.
Thanks, this is in line with what others have told me. Risky and difficult.
Watch Bitcoin go, just don’t get left holding the baby when it crashes.
Income bearing assets, so property if you have cash. If you want to stay in UK stay in £s. But always remember every time you buy something someone is selling it, & everytime you sell something someone is buying it. Every price is at the mid-point between optimists & pessimists. You’ll be right or you’ll be wrong and no one knows which until you sell.
One of my thoughts of late is to buy Chinese Yuan given they’ve not set about to sabotage there economy?
Thanks for the advice. Crypto is seriously risky for sure, but I have a horrible feeling my cash savings are going to devalue substantially in 2021. Gold and silver are more stable obviously, but not much use unless you physically own the metals. And in a full-on crash, these will be difficult to use and a security risk. Nice problem to have I guess.
They are planning for the end of cash.The Chancellor and the head of the ECB have openly called for the creation of a digital currency.
Hyper inflation is on its way as the only way the government can pay its bills is by printing money.
This will create bubbles as the funny money chases after real assets.Property,shares etc will soar then will burst one by one.
Then who knows what will happen.
I think this is the biggest piece of evidence for a conspiracy.A government this cavalier with the public finances would have been punished by now yet the show continues with no end in sight.
Can’t disagree. Massive inflation soon.
No escape from the collapse, still worth a punt of course (coins etc crypto not good if T’internet goes dark for a week.)
You didn’t think that google outage last week was a mistake did you, or all those mysterious Cashpoint / IT failures at UK banks last year…..
Please pay attention.
What are your thoughts on cryptocurrency?
Well I’m being squeezed on XRP this week so ask me in about 6 months. It’s looking cheap now but people are selling for a reason
pointless if the internet goes down
When it comes to cryptocurrencies I always recommend the snowflake
Hyper deflation I think.
Huge debt far greater than anything they can reasonably print.
Cash will still be worthless in a currency reset of course.
The things to watch for will be co-ordinated debt write-offs (like Gordon Brown was advocating for Africa in early 2000s), not sure how it would work, good bank/bad bank model?
Bill Gates, maybe Elon Musk or some other such figure standing for President. Not sure what it would mean but it would set tongues wagging.
The people won’t be revolting, because everyone will be bribed with the Great Reset. They know the game they’re playing, and because the moron masses are incapable of reading the fine print (or a medical insert leaflet), they are quite excited to have all their debt written off in exchange for their microdot, blockchain slavery.
This is happening. It’s no mystery. It’s been in the works for YEARS; they just waited for the right crisis to roll it out. (Waited? Or hatched?)
This website has hours of videos (always with links to original sources) if you want to investgate: https://www.corbettreport.com/
The ‘Great Reset’ idea is built on sand.
It may well make things worse-
Central planning always makes things worse.
Indeed! It’s insane. But that won’t stop them inflicting it on us.
It seems way premature. Surely, the intention would be to tie the reset to automation, whereby the efficiencies of automation pay for mass UBI of the population.
This was always my understanding of how UBI would be rolled out. In it’s present state I can just see vast swathes of populations throughout the West living in abject poverty. I do not believe former business owners as part of the middle class would take such an outcome lightly.
Excellent point. Automation is happening regardless. Whether it takes up the strain and allows for something like UBI is another matter. People need to be invested in valuable enterprise. However that is a vague concept. And as soon as the technocrats try and define that I think its doomed to failure.
Only the people get to decide that. Freedom needs a reset, democracy needs to be rediscovered
(Edit not working so typos’ll have to remain).
I didn’t think things would last this long after 2008, so they may be able to kick the can down the road another few years, however, my sense is that this is unsustainable, and that the longer they put off balancing the books, the worse it’ll be in the end.
I think you are right we never recovered from 2008 because the fuckers still had to pursue an unregulated environment. The fiat system is going to shit god knows what will fall out of this.
I increasingly find that typing “fuck” on the internet, and swearing at mongs who jump in the road very satisfying.
I also self medicate with a bottle of Brandy and several cans of beer, and rather a lot of loud music.
I saw Adam Ant play at Chinnerys in Southend a few years ago, proper old school fun, my son had played that same stage a week earlier. fucking proud as fuck (Mr ant was awesome too !)
I don’t think old life will come back now, but I’ll be damned if the cunts will hurt my family.
They can get through me first. They will probably win in the end, but lets let them fucking earn every inch.
This pointless hyperbole is brought to you by the Society of Essex drunks (well my house house and Mrs OBG, 2 is a start)
So when nuclear stuff was all the rage in the 50s they had that nuclear experiment set for kids with uranium and geiger counters. When chemistry was the thing you could just go in a toy shop and buy mercury and shit.
I’m seriously disappointed. When can I go into Smith’s and buy a PCR lab kit and a CRISPR gene editing box set?
“Have fun testing and experimenting on your friends! Share the possibilities, see the mutations!”
My eve of Christmas eve music is now on Toyah !
Brandy getting low, auto correct now needed on every second word
It’s now on Kate bush…. Mrs OBG is in big trouble unless fall asleep first
Have you checked out Toyah and Robert’s Lockdown Lunch videos (via her FB page)? Well worth a watch. A hoot.
https://www.facebook.com/toyahofficial/
I fucking love those
Guaranteed to cheer even in dark times OBG.
never realised Fripp was that versatile with a guitar
There were no pre-existing conditions for 77 of the 902 Covid-19 related deaths (8.5%).
The Nisra report said: “Dementia and Alzheimer’s disease is by far the most common pre-existing condition, appearing in 36.3% of Covid-19 related deaths.
This may not be surprising given that nearly half (44%) of Covid-19 related deaths up to end September were residents of care homes, and nearly two-thirds (65.5%) were aged 80 or over.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55427659
BBC?! Wow. Truth at last!
The Brompton Cocktail of viruses.
Something to hopefully put a smile on some faces. Stick with it well worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQO2YKfAlfk
Absolutely brilliant. I laughed so much that I forgot you had already posted it, and posted it again (no idea how to delete posts). I feel dizzy!
Ha, worth posting twice!
And guess what, this is not a comedy fiction either:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisonescalante/2020/09/08/why-speaking-english-may-spread-more-coronavirus-than-other-languages/?sh=12be36b86eea
No wonder the Walsh are in constant lockdown, all those consonants…
Same. Saving that for a few drinks and sharing over Christmas
It’s brilliant! And the laughter in the background is a real tonic!
Watch this, I haven’t laughed as much since I can’t remember when.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQO2YKfAlfk
If those rules were broadcast on the BBC news, half the country would be speaking like that within days.
I wonder sometimes what would happen if SAGE came out and said that the virus could be transmitted by eye contact.
Perhaps there would be a new rule mandating that people could only walk in public with bowed heads, so as to prevent inadvertent eye contact.
We would then be walking masked and with bowed heads, six feet apart.
no more winking!
With communication only in grunts. To be honest this is the sound I hear whenever I observe the bemuzzled shuffling along in their total misery.
Today, it’s satire. Tomorrow, the law of the land.
You get what you confess. Stop it!
Wonderful!
Not completely farfetched,
During Disability Awareness Training attendees were asked to construct a sentence without using the letter S as, apparently, this is a disability for some people.
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/over-100-doctors-sign-a-letter-protesting-govt-coronavirus-policies
interesting perspective from Israel
“You have probably typed the address incorrectly, or the page you were looking for may have been moved or deleted.”
sorry I edited out all the funny numbers at the end
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/over-100-doctors-sign-a-letter-protesting-govt-coronavirus-policies-652682
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241002
The US passed a Coronavirus Act which sums up how democracy functions in that country right now. Something with a boilerplate designed to give the impression it is something to do with a deadly virus. It is anything but
Fear – YouTube
Just seen Hancock has got a role in Hollywood!
Yup, that’s matt.
‘Brexit deal imminent…’
The end is nigh
The cheque is in the post
ha ha ha ha
vaccines, vaccines for all….
With the ‘discovery’ of yet another new strain the government have created the pretext for perpetual lockdown.How on earth can they know they the Kent strain is 70% more infectious.They would require more knowledge than they can possibly ever have.The South African strain is said to have infected only 2 people.These new strains serve to lock up how many more millions of people and this rubbish is swallowed wholesale by a gullible public and compliant press.
Anytime they need to lock us up they can just invent a new strain.
The MP strain must be the worst. Every leader strangely has had it.
I’ve come to despise scientists and politicians. They have become our jailers, only we’re innocent
Politically driven scientists anyway.
Ego driven scientists ?
Just like Joe Stalin forever uncovering new conspiracies so that he could arrest tens of thousands to feed the Gulag and thus create heavy industry with slave labour.
Is Whitehall hiring ANOTHER pal of Carrie Symonds?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9084009/Is-Whitehall-hiring-pal-Carrie-Symonds.html
The story now on Tiffany Dover – the nurse who fainted moments after receiving the vaccine several days ago, is that she faints regularly, about once a month.
She is a nurse.
One wonders what could happen to a patient, if she happened to faint while doing something particularly sensitive.
At least it’s not narcolepsy.
https://www.aier.org/article/hope-and-freedom-in-georgia/
Sanity and normality-remember them?- in Georgia.
Sorry to hear about the nastiness. Many of us enjoy reading your posts and updates. You have been on the front line on a lot of battles. I’m T4. I thought cafes were opem for takeaway, which is not much consolation. I expect some people order less if they don’t have anywhere to sit and enjoy it.
At work yesterday, I was allowed to sit down in the seating area of the canteen and enjoy my lunch. I dont know why that was allowed, but simple pleasures. Then I felt silly for being grateful for being allowed to do it.
Odd experience sitting alone in a canteen with a hundred or so chairs.
Enjoy your posts. Hope you can keep the shop open. We would all give you lots of business if we could.