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A Scandal Brewing in Germany

Professor Dr Christian Drosten

Global Research has published an article about the growing pressure on the scientific journal Eurosurveillance to retract the critical paper by Christian Dorston entitled “Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus by real-time RT-PCR”, which laid the groundwork for the use of PCR tests to detect COVID-19.

First, it reports on the criticisms of the original study, levelled by Dr Mike Yeadon, among others:

To begin with, as the critical scientists reveal, the paper that established the Drosten PCR test for the Wuhan strain of coronavirus that has subsequently been adopted with indecent haste by the Merkel government along with WHO for worldwide use – resulting in severe lockdowns globally and an economic and social catastrophe – was never peer-reviewed before its publication by Eurosurveillance. The report’s critics point out that: “the Corman-Drosten paper was submitted to Eurosurveillance on January 21st 2020 and accepted for publication on January 22nd 2020. On January 23rd 2020 the paper was online.”

The critics point out that Drosten and his co-author Dr Chantal Reusken, did not disclose a glaring conflict of interest. Both were also members of the editorial board of Eurosurveillance. Further, as reported by BBC and Google Statistics, on January 21st there were a world total of six deaths being attributed to the Wuhan virus. They ask, “Why did the authors assume a challenge for public health laboratories while there was no substantial evidence at that time to indicate that the outbreak was more widespread than initially thought?” Another co-author of the Drosten paper that gave a cover of apparent scientific credibility to the Drosten PCR procedure was head of the company who developed the test being marketed today, with the blessing of WHO, in the hundreds of millions, Olfert Landt, of Tib-Molbiol in Berlin, but Landt did not disclose that pertinent fact in the Drosten paper either.

Certainly nothing suspicious or improper here, or? It would be relevant to know if Drosten, the Merkel chief scientific advisor for COVID-19, Germany’s de facto “Tony Fauci,” gets a percentage for each test sold by Tib-Molbiol in their global marketing agreement with Roche.

But the criticisms of the paper are not the only problem facing Dr Drosten.

According to Dr. Markus Kühbacher, a specialist investigating scientific fraud such as dissertation plagiarism, Dr Drosten’s doctor thesis, by law must be deposited on a certain date with academic authorities at his University, who then sign a legal form, Revisionsschein, verified with signature, stamp of the University and date, with thesis title and author, to be sent to the University archive. With it, three original copies of the thesis are filed.

Kühbacher charges that the Goethe University is guilty of cover-up by claiming, falsely, Drosten’s Revisionsschein was on file. The University spokesman later was forced to admit it was not filed, at least not locatable by them. Moreover, of the three mandatory file copies of his doctor thesis, highly relevant given the global importance of Drosten’s coronavirus role, two copies have “disappeared,” and the remaining single copy is water-damaged. Kühbacher says Drosten will now likely face court charges for holding a fraudulent doctoral title.

Separately, there is another legal process about to begin brought by Dr Wolfgang Wodarg and his lawyer Dr Reiner Fuellmich.

Whether that is to pass, it is a fact that a separate legal process has been filed in Berlin against two people responsible for a German media site, Volksverpetzer.de, for slander and defamation, brought by a well-known and critical German medical doctor, Dr Wolfgang Wodarg. The court case demands of the defendants €250,000 in damages for defamation of character and material damages to Wodarg by the accused in their online site, as well as in other German media, claiming they viciously and without proof, defamed Wodarg, calling him a “covid-denier,” falsely calling him a right-wing extremist (he is a life-long former parliament member of the Social Democratic Party) and numerous other false and damaging charges

The attorney for Dr Wodarg is a well-known German-American attorney, Dr Reiner Fuellmich. In his charges against the defendants, Fuellmich cites in full the charges against the Drosten test for coronavirus of Dr Pieter Borger et al noted above. This is in effect forcing the defendants to refute the Borger paper. It is a major step on the way to refute the entire WHO COVID-19 PCR testing fraud.

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The report is worth reading in full and the story is definitely worth keeping an eye on. Eurosurveillance has said it is “seeking further expert advice“, but claims the paper was peer-reviewed. Pretty fast turnaround, given that it was submitted on January 21st and published on January 22nd.

Mass PCR Testing an Expensive Blunder

Dr Tom Jefferson has a terrific piece in today’s Mail on Sunday, based on research recently published in Clinical Infectious Diseases (Oxford University Press), on the mania for mass testing.

For the past few weeks I have received a stream of unsettling letters and emails from members of the public. They are all complete strangers, people I’ve never met. They decided to get in touch out of what I can only describe as desperation.

They are at their wits’ end because they are testing positive for COVID-19 despite having recovered from their symptoms. Some never had symptoms in the first place but are still being told they have the virus long after any possible infection. They are anxious and confused. Their lives are on hold.

One family tells me how their mother caught COVID-19 in hospital in October but continues to test positive. “This is starting to cause problems with her receiving treatment for cancer,” they write, “so we’re trying to prove she’s not still infectious.” Another man complains of losing his sense of smell two months ago, his only symptom. Yet his test results continue to be positive. When will he eventually be negative, he wants to know.

After detailing some of the failings in the way the test is used, and the critical fact that the this simple yes/no test cannot tell us if the individual is still sick, or capable of infecting others, he writes:

Last Friday, however, an academic journal reported that almost a quarter (24%) of infected staff and patients at the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford were still testing positive for COVID-19 a full six weeks after the start of an illness that normally runs its course within 14 days.

If that were in any way representative, I’d have to conclude that the official coronavirus figures have been grossly overstated, with all the damage that entails.

As Newcastle University’s Professor Allyson Pollock said recently, the PCR tests were never designed to be used across entire populations. The manufacturer’s instructions, she says, make it clear that they are no more than a tool to help with diagnosis and they are “not to be used on healthy people with no symptoms”.

I believe that Britain’s new-found testing mania is a retreat from properly conducted clinical medicine as well as from common sense. And that we are witnessing a triumph of herd thinking, an expensive one at that. Most PCR kits still cost more than £100 to obtain privately, for example, and the Government says it is now delivering 500,000 a day. But even these figures are dwarfed by the £100 billion the Prime Minister is prepared to spend on a “moonshot” dream of supplying the population with tests more or less on demand.

All precision has been sacrificed and instead we are blundering through, imprisoning people in their homes, further crippling the economy long after the infection has vanished. This is why we must treat the Government’s daily tally of cases, often in five figures, with a huge dose of salt. And why we must restrict the reporting of positive coronavirus diagnoses to those who are infectious to others. These are the people who matter in a pandemic.

Perhaps in recognition, at least in part, of the of the unreliability of the PCR test, the Government’s emphasis is switching to the lateral flow test. Sky News reports that from Monday 1.6 million of these tests, which use similar technology to the pregnancy test and have a quicker turnaround, will be deployed in over 100 local authority areas. A reader wrote in yesterday, with this to say:

I am an NHS registered nurse and my hospital trust is now strongly encouraging twice weekly lateral flow tests for all its frontline staff (which I have politely declined). Interesting though how they use lateral flow tests for health carers (which has a low false positive rate) but continue to use PCR for the public (which has a high false positive rate). Its a win win for the government – less health workers requiring to isolate, whilst still maintaining a case-demic that justifies Tier 3 restrictions. Clever.

It is well known that the PCR generates high numbers of false positives (low specificity) due to high cycle thresholds. The Government is very tight lipped about what cycle thresholds are used, although cycles of 35-40 have been stated in the literature which likely only pick up old viral fragments. Surprisingly, even the fear mongering Anthony Fauci admitted that cycles this high would only pick up “dead nucleotides”.

I suspect that there might be a gradual move towards LFT testing in place of PCR, sold to the public for reasons of finance, speed (results within 30 minutes), convenience and accuracy. Maybe the change over to lateral flow testing will be one of the mechanisms to shift the narrative once the vaccines are rolled out over the coming months (read David Mackie article “How Will the Fiction be Sustained?“). Mass vaccination followed by a gradual switch from PCR to LFT (with its low false-positive rate) seems to be a plausible strategy that Boris will use to get out the hole he has dug himself. The question is, will the public notice the sleight of hand?

Stop Press: The University of Surrey and the National Measurement Laboratory have published an article in Clinical Chemistry on laboratory contamination, a key cause of PCR false positives. There is a good summary available here.

Lack of Hindsight on RNA vaccines

Professor Eric Caumes

Professor Eric Caumes, the Head of the Department for Infectious and Tropical Diseases at the Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital in Paris, caused a bit of a stir last week with his comments on RNA vaccines. LifeSite news reports:

Professor Eric Caumes is part and parcel of the fear game around COVID-19, favouring France’s second lockdown that became effective at the end of October and promising a “third wave” of infections and disease if “barrier gestures” are not observed and people do not limit the amount of family dining together at Christmas.

He has clearly stated that he will take a COVID-19 vaccine as long as it is not an RNA vaccine like those being distributed in the United Kingdom now. RNA vaccines are expected to start in France in January with the residents of care homes for the elderly.

Caumes has voiced concerns regarding these vaccines. He complained earlier about the lack of available scientific data from their results and side effects, saying he would never blindly trust the vaccine industry merely on their press releases

On Wednesday, Caumes went much further in an interview he gave to the French daily Le Parisien. After seeing a report on the Pfizer vaccine from the American Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday evening, the data used by Pfizer to obtain marketing authorization turned out to be a shock.

Caumes measured his words, saying, “As I read the 53 pages, something struck me. I have never seen such a high frequency of adverse events for a vaccine. Apart from minor injection reactions such as local redness and pain, other side effects occur at relatively high rates, especially in young people and after the second dose. Take the example of fever. It can occur transiently after an injection; it is classic. But here, 15.8% of 18 to 55 year-olds had a fever of 38 degrees Celsius or higher within seven days after the second injection. And 45% had to take medication for fever or pain. 55% had headaches and 62% were tired. No, really, that’s much too much, perhaps there’s a problem… ” Caumes said.

Nevertheless, Caumes would still advise elderly people most at risk from getting severe forms of COVID-19 and dying to take the Pfizer or Moderna RNA vaccines because of what he considers to be a favourable benefit-risk balance. But he did not advise young or healthy people to do so. “Not only is there a lack of information, but these injections based on genetic material (messenger RNA) have never passed the commercialization stage until now,” Caumes said. “Perhaps they are revolutionary, but I want proof of their reliability, otherwise it is tantamount to placing blind trust in industry.”

His condemnation of the rush to obtain Pfizer and Moderna vaccines was already seen as an obstacle to France’s vaccine policy. French Health minister Olivier Véran immediately reacted, saying that Caumes “sometimes speaks nonsense”.

But Caumes repeated his critique to Le Parisien, stating, “Pfizer and Moderna simply announced their success in a press release. In my career as a physician, I’ve never seen anything like this before. You have to realize there is still no trace of scientific publication.

The LifeSite news report is worth reading in full. The interview with LeParisien, for anyone who reads French, is available here. People under 50 with no underlying health conditions are not currently included within the vaccine roll-out.

Stop Press: The United States has given the Pfizer vaccine the go-ahead. The Food and Drug Administration commissioner Stephen Hahn has assured the American public of the vaccine’s safety.

Health and Care Professions Council on the Vaccine

THE HCPC vaccine advice to registrants

Following last Thursday’s post on the GMC pressuring doctors into taking the vaccine, a concerned reader has brought our attention to a similar statement from the Health and Care Professions Council, in its FAQs related to the COVID-19 vaccine. Our correspondent writes:

I noted your post on the GMC view on the COVID-19 vaccine and the HCPC (paramedic regulator amongst others) haven’t taken a much friendlier stance. The HCPC state that we are “strongly encourage(d)” to take the vaccine unless there are “good reasons”. I am slightly reassured by this but there seems to me at least to be a degree of arm-twisting there especially as they go on to state that “appropriate steps” need to be taken to reduce transmission if un-vaccinated. This to me suggests masks, gowns, etc. unless you’ve been vaccinated. As the PPE that we are made to wear is widely loathed by both staff and patients this seems like more pressure to go along if we don’t want our lives to be made miserable.

Coca-Cola Tests Positive for Coronavirus

As reported in yesterday’s Lockdown Sceptics, an Austrian MP gave a speech in which he tested some cola using a lateral flow test to prove just how unreliable it is. Sure enough, it was positive. You can watch the speech here.

https://twitter.com/Anshul__K/status/1337372533386072064?s=20

Round-up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Three today: “Candy Castle” by Glass Candy, “Crime of the Century” by Supertramp and “If Everyone Was Listening” also by Supertramp

Love in the Time of Covid

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we bring you the Office of the American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust – the organisation that chooses Rhodes Scholars – and its commitment to diversity. First, from the press release announcing the election of the class of 2020 (pdf):

Elliot F. Gerson, American Secretary of the Rhodes Trust, describing this year’s class said: “This year’s American Rhodes Scholars reflect the remarkable diversity that characterises and strengthens the United States. Twenty-one of the 32 are students of colour, 10 are black, equal to the greatest number ever elected in one year in the United States. Fifteen are first-generation Americans or immigrants and one is a Dreamer with active DACA status. Seventeen of the winners are women, 14 are men, and one is non-binary. These young Americans will go to Oxford next October to study in fields broadly across the social, biological and physical sciences, the humanities and public policy.

Discussing the American Rhodes Scholar Class of 2020 in the Times, Gerard Baker can only come to one conclusion: “Rhodes scholars are a study in woke ideology.”

If you think diversity goes beyond skin colour, gender, sexuality or migrant status, think again. A brief look at the interests and intellectual pursuits of the 32 suggests a crushing uniformity of ideological outlook. By my count, only a handful of the 32 honourees do not boast an explicit background in social activism or an association with progressive causes.

To be clear: I’m sure these are all highly talented, principled and conscientious young people. Nor is there anything intrinsically wrong in giving under-represented minorities a leg-up in this way, though it has been standard academic practice in the US for decades. The issue is not with the students themselves. It’s with the cultural engineers who, by selecting them, are extending their purge of any dissenting political and ideological views from the commanding heights of society.

This year’s list of Rhodes Scholars reads, in fact, like a list of academics at leading institutions in the Soviet Union. In order to get preferment in Russia in those days, you had to include some babble about using research to advance the interests of the proletariat and to hasten the collapse of global capitalism, whatever discipline you happened to be studying.

Gerard Baker’s remarks are worth reading in full.

To convey just how woke it is, the Rhodes Trust has been tweeting some genuinely bizarre homages to former Rhodes Scholars. A bottle of champagne to anyone who can translate it into plain English.

Stop Press: Have you ever been faced with an Angry Wokester and been unsure how to deal with him/her/them? Never fear, Phil Shannon has written a comprehensive guide in Quadrant for the next time this occurs. Herewith the first of his 10 top tips for social interaction with angry woke liberals:

1. George Orwell and the Two Minutes Hate

When an angry woke liberal launches into the ritual denunciation of the political object of woke loathing de jour, intervene with a comment along the lines of “I see that it’s time for the scheduled Two Minutes Hate again”.  Any liberal worth their literary salt will get the reference to Emmanuel Goldstein, the officially-designated ‘Enemy of the People’, the ersatz Trotsky-figure from Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, whose image and memory all good and loyal citizens are daily required to curse and spit upon as a sign of their virtue and fealty to “correct” political thought. The woke like to imagine themselves as tolerant and liberal, and will not want to be compared to thought-totalitarians whipping up fear and hatred of an approved enemy. Angry woke liberals do not like to be Orwell-ed.

The guide is worth reading in full.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.

Stop Press: A technologically savvy reader has helpfully produced an Android App which displays the message “I am exempt from wearing a face mask message”. It is only 99p and is available here.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.

Stop Press: Ex-Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly did a great interview for her podcast recently with Dr Jay Bhattacharya and Dr Martin Kulldorff as well as Dr David Dowdy. The discussion covers the declaration and much else. Worth giving it a listen on Spotify.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here. Alas, he’s now reached the end of the road, with the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear his appeal. Dolan has no regrets. “We forced SAGE to produce its minutes, got the Government to concede it had not lawfully shut schools, and lit the fire on scrutinizing data and information,” he says. “We also believe our findings and evidence, while not considered properly by the judges, will be of use in the inevitable public inquires which will follow and will help history judge the PM, Matt Hancock and their advisers in the light that they deserve.”

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review yesterday, but the FSU may appeal the decision. Check here for updates.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email [email protected] or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

Quotation Corner

We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Mark Twain

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.

Charles Mackay

They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…

Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury

Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

Richard Feynman

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Albert Camus

We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.

Carl Sagan

Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

George Orwell

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius

Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

William Pitt the Younger

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels (attributed)

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

H.L. Mencken

I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.

Thomas Paine

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BuildVaccineTrust
BuildVaccineTrust
5 years ago

Millions of people are lining up to get Pfizer’s COVID-19 shot without being told the FDA sees a risk they will get a more severe case of COVID-19 after the initial protection fades. Testing hasn’t lasted long enough to find out. If the public isn’t warned about *all* risks now, they may not trust vaccines even if full testing demonstrates them to be safe.

 The UK, US and Canadian governments provide documents for patients and health care workers explaining the vaccine. Yet as of Dec. 12th, 2020: none of those mention this important issue acknowledged by the US government only in sources most people will never read.

 The non-partisan US government’s Congressional Research Service explained: “experts are concerned about the potential for vaccine enhanced disease, in which vaccination could worsen the health effects of COVID-19 infections […]. Animal studies of other coronavirus vaccines have found some potential for vaccine enhanced disease”

A medical journal says after the dengue vaccine’s initial effect faded “vaccinated children in the 2–5 year age group, were found to be nearly 8 times likely to be hospitalized for severe dengue, compared to children in the placebo group”.

The FDA’s initial review of the Pfizer and BiNTech vaccine… Read more »

A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
5 years ago

It really wouldn’t surprise me if ADE was an issue. It’s why we haven’t yet managed to develop a coronavirus vaccine despite decades of research.

Fast forward to next winter, when we will all have to be in lockdown yet again to protect the NHS from the effects of the amazing saviour vaccine…

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

Just for the record, if a woman on the train (whose seats probably have faecal matter on them) spends some time blowing her nose, puts her hanky away and then digs out one of those face mask things and puts it on, is thee really any point in this?

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

Deary me, Grandad dodged death at Dunkirk, then came back for more at Wadi Akarit, El Alamein, Monte Cassino. Meanwhile, his parents chose to sleep in their own beds during the blitz on London, despite their estate taking direct hits. And some positive test results are terrifying?

Seriously, I think something has gone wrong with this country. Though perhaps people are terrified because the authorities will follow their silly rules and put London in “tier 3” with all the damage that will cause.

karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

They forgot petrifying and horrendous.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

“Prof. Jean-Bernard Fourtillan spoke of his concern that the COVID-19 crisis was fabricated and is being used to impose a dangerous vaccine on the world population

Early on December 10, Jean-Bernard Fourtillan was taken from his home by a team of French law enforcement officers and forcibly placed in solitary confinement at the Uzès psychiatric hospital of Le Mas Careiron
His bank accounts and credit cards were suddenly blocked by an authority whose identity was not revealed to him. His pensions were also blocked.

Fourtillan gained widespread publicity in a recent film by Pierre Barnérias, ‘Hold Up’, giving a voice to critics of the official narrative, became viral in France.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/accomplished-pharma-prof-thrown-in-psych-hospital-after-questioning-official-covid-narrative

BJJ
BJJ
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Will Brezhnev deny this happened?

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago

The state of Wyoming continues to embarrass itself as a man is arrested for a, “verbal disturbance,” during an anti-mask protest:

One arrested for verbal disturbance during protest against the mask mandate – Wyo4News

No tough guys in Wyoming. RIP First Amendment.

Edit: If that Wyoming mayor and police chief are that thin-skinned they need to find a new line of work.

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

https://dailyuknews.com/uk-news/leaked-files-expose-mass-infiltration-of-uk-firms-by-chinese-communist-party/
 
Interesting especially this
The pharmaceutical giants Pfizer and AstraZeneca – both involved in the development of coronavirus vaccines – employed a total 123 party loyalists;

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Yes I mentioned that earlier but thanks for the link.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

2015

““Let’s stick together and make a golden decade for both our countries.”
The words of British Chancellor George Osborne. With this week’s UK state visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping, the British government hopes to step over that golden threshold.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34539507

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Osborne – coked-up creep who went off to work for a newspaper owned by a KGB guy and his son whilst peddling the anti-Trump Russia hoax. Some kind of tightrope walker!

OKUK
5 years ago

Looks like, despite the Court Order banning release of the findings of the independent forensic inspection of the Dominion voting processes in Antrim County, Michigan there has been a leak of the findings as follows:

– The machine was shipping out votes to Europe (Spain and Germany) via the internet for “adjudication”. This allowed the totals to be manipulated. This confirms what Sidney Powell has been claiming.

– The tampering was hidden in the “error rate”, which the forensic inspectors were surprised by. It was a sophisticated hide. Not sure what this means exactly but maybe someone else can explain.

If all genuine, this feels like a major step forward. We now know how the machine fraud was being worked,

Now to cancel the fraud…difficult but it cannot be allowed to stand. It seems Trump electors (the people Trump voters approved to go to the Electoral College) are trying to lodge their votes with College so their votes then have to be considered by the VP Mike Pence.

I wonder whether the Trump lawyers made the wrong decision in failing to go after the machine fraud preferring to stick with the rampant traditional Dem fraud?… Read more »

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I’m now of the view that Trump should do everything within his power to prevent the assumption of the Presidency by “Beijing Biden” because rubber stamping the fraudulent Biden win means the essential cancellation of the US Constitution. Better he declares Martial Law if necessary and stops the electoral process. Remember, Kerensky could have stopped the Bolsheviks in their tracks if he had had the leaders arrested for sedition as many in the republic wanted. He could have saved millions of lives and avoided a huge amount of human misery, not just in Russia but all around the globe.

The other side can then go to the Supreme Court and so let them decide.

Mrs issedoff
Mrs issedoff
5 years ago

Not sure how much longer I can keep going. Just had a massive row with my other half, why the hell does he believe all the shite being fed on MSM?. He has gone to bed in a big huff and I am left here feeling like I am about explode. Please, someone make me feel better. What the hell is wrong with people?, why have they been brainwashed and led to believe that Covid is such a killer disease?.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

Yeah – I’m sure it’s difficult.

I know that I wouldn’t be able to live with somebody under hypnosis.

The question is wheter he is open to rational discussion?

My ‘go to’ argument right now is Germany.

1.35 million ‘cases’ so far, but with all cause mortality unchanged and the number of patients treated for severe acute respiratory infections running at 10 to 15 % below 2019 all of this year.

Summing up – 1.35 million ‘cases’ , no impact on vital statistics.

Flying Saucer
Flying Saucer
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

A suggestion: turn the TV off (and all the subliminal messaging) and sit down with your other half and have a nice cuppa (or glass of wine), talk about things you both like!

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

Sorry to hear that! People believe because they are scared. The uncertainty of bringing everything they hold to be true into disrepute is too much for them to handle, especially if it happens too suddenly.

I’ve no idea what your situation is vis-a-vis your other half but generally with most people you need to chip away at the small things and downplay rather than debunk.

stevie119
stevie119
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

I am sorry that I cannot help. Mine is on our side but not to the same extent as me. My main problem is my sister who is similar to your O/H and this casts a big shadow over the festive season. They were saying that during lockdown 1 that they had to not tell her if they had been out and about in case she got upset. For Fucks sake. This nonsense really has exposed huge, previously unnoticed differences between people that appear insurmountable. Maybe you could talk it through. Or just stab him.

Mabel Cow
Mabel Cow
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

I don’t think it’s possible to talk people round on this matter. It’s about belief and ego defence, not facts or rational thinking.

I watched my mum try to convince my dad to stop smoking for years and she got nowhere. Logic, emotion, pleading: nothing worked. And then my dad’s mum (a heavy smoker) died of cancer. Within a week my dad had put down his tobacco and never smoked again. People need to choose their own path, I think.

Jimk
Jimk
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

I went through the exact same thing with my wife on Friday night. Separate beds, barely spoke Saturday, slight thaw Sunday.

Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

Just know you’re not alone in that situation. Me and OH have a negotiated peace at the moment but massive passive aggressive situation when we go to shops together – me mask less (apparently selfish but he tolerates it) and him pompously masked which makes my blood boil. Agreed he’s just virtue signalling since he accepts it’s not the deadly virus we’re meant to believe. Hang in there, we’ll get through.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

Very tricky when the political intrudes on the personal. I would go back to basics and say let’s agree between the two of us that we both want the best for ourselves, for our family and for society at large. We just disagree on how best to achieve that. But that means we are both good people seeking the best.

Then take it from there!

HutchD
HutchD
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

Don’t despair. I too am wondering what the heck is wrong with people.Where is their backbone?Spoke to couple of people on dog walk yesterday and they look at me as if I’m mad when I say we have to get on with things.It’s just a virus.
Lost hubby in May thanks to lockdown. He wouldn’t seek medical advice. He’s one of the forgotten statistics.I will never forgive these charlatans .

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

https://twitter.com/Kevin_McKernan/status/1338195139022426117 
Drosten has got a formidable opponent in McKernan (said to have done most PCR in the world) who picks article after article high lightning defects in Drosten’s protocol. This twitter thread is for experts but considering that 75% of PCR tests are based upon Drosten protocol, will the house of cards…???

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Nope. This is politics, ideology and corruption. Against those, facts are quite weak. We need to change the politics and the ideology, then destroy the lives of those engaged in corruption.

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9768999400

AP news(MSM) Factchecking that Ivermectin is not for treatment of C-19.(That means not approved by FDA/NIH is the proof) There are already 10 RCT (Randomized Control Trials) showing positive  effect and numerous observational studies.

https://ivmmeta.com/
Just shows that factchecking is just paying off Big Pharma. Vaccine is the only game in town(+PCR tests)

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Not Fact Checking, it’s Fatuous Checking.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

British Columbia overdose deaths for the same period compare to covid death is 5 to 1.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Woofcoast/status/1337248689736204288

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago

Safe places for opiate addicts to inject themselves has been prohibited for no other reason than to look tough on drug use. It is a policy that is causing carnage. All those deaths almost all of which are preventable due to the war on drugs. Killed with concern and dare I say it Alarm!

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

On the PCR review. I believe this is the Dutch parliament where the retraction paper has been brought up and moving to debate.

https://youtu.be/1YY8c8xKLF0

It’s good to see one of the major battles still moving into the light. Despite so many set backs. PCR being outed will be huge. One country takes the lead, others will follow

annie
annie
5 years ago

Quack quack, bleat bleat. If, just for once, they quack and bleat the truth…

Old Normal
Old Normal
5 years ago

Another fishy Sturgeon deal rears its ugly head.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/fury-6m-taxpayer-cash-spent-23158532

The temporary hospital in Glasgow has treated no Covid patients but apparently has a security contract with G4S and a very large laundry contract.

It’s time all the Scottish press started to look at what’s going on here more closely.

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Old Normal

That is SO reminiscent of the old ‘Yes Minister’ episode entitled ‘The
Compassionate Society’!

George Mc
George Mc
5 years ago

John Steppling (one of the few Lefts who has something functioning between his ears) supplied a link to this article which he correctly described as “psychotic”. It’s a piece of serious protection racketeering:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-how-we-handle-people-who-refuse-to-get-covid-vaccines

And I think it highlights another potentially catastrophic aspect of the covid con: the setting up of the most violent division there has ever been in Western society. Blacks and whites? Right and Left? You ain’t seen nothing yet! Here we have an impending shoot out fuelled by viral terror!

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  George Mc

They’ve got no fear. Even if you supported all of that, would you still not be wise enough to understand that vax passport is a gateway to all sorts of nefarious surveillance. Awful stuff. And what does he think ‘normal’ will look like when the 40% of hesitants are eventually so tortured by exclusions and propaganda that they agree. Do they just get back to being your friend? A reliable employee? An informed, engaged member of society (Fitter Happier and More Productive)?

You’ll not see normal again. Its slipping from his fingers with every sentence he types and the repeated mentions of freedom are some exceptional examples of double think.

I hope the writer understands the vaccines could well need to taken every 3 months as the immunity they claim may not last very long. You’ll be strapping up on a regular basis.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

Bumping. Please go if you can:

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OKUK
5 years ago

I know many of you think Bill Gates is an inhuman monster. Well he’s been on CNN, being interviewed by Jake Tapper, to show you just how wrong you are…

He’s calling for all bars and restaurants in the USA to be closed for the next six months.

He wants lockdowns and masking to continue into
2022.

And he wants every single person on the planet to be vaccinated against Covid 19.

Janice21
Janice21
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I actually feel physically sick.

Al T
Al T
5 years ago
Reply to  Janice21

Me too!

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

How does this one single man, who nobody’s voted for, have the power to control the world?

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Because nobody as yet says “no”.

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

We do,

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Yes, but we don’t run multinationals or army divisions.

TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Exactly. It needs people with the power to grow a pair and tell him that the second word is “off” and the first has four letters. Instead they are like starstruck teenyboppers.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago

It’s because they are too comfortable at the moment and the people aren’t suffering enough to cause mayhem. When that happens powerful people will take sides.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

It’s for that reason that it’s not quite time. Heed Napoleon’s words (I paraphrase): “never interrupt an enemy while he is making a mistake”.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Those who attribute this crisis to government incompetence really need to explain Gates role in all this.A couple of weeks ago he flew in to meet Johnson to discuss vaccine rollout.
A man with no medical training and elected by no one,but it all passes without comment in the MSM as if this is normal.
He is allowed time to pontificate on how we deal with this crisis in countless fawning interviews.
I don’t believe he is totally responsible as one man,however rich hasn’t the power to make the world dance to his tune

stevie119
stevie119
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Jesus! Can`t somebody just shoot the cunt ?

Danny
Danny
5 years ago

So every school in Camden borough is now closed. Thousands of little excited kids robbed of things like Christmas plays, exchanging cards, playing games on the last day etc. No great loss, some might say. Get back in your houses where you can be safe and stop being selfish.
I profoundly disagree and find the thought of all those classrooms in darkness tomorrow really sad.
That’s without even considering all those disadvantaged kids or just kids from turbulent, unhappy homes, being robbed of a few days of joy, on the utterly middle class contention that they will be fine at home.
Speaking as both a parent and a teacher, I think this is shameful neglect.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Danny

Did they know on Friday that schools would be closed tomorrow?!

I’m thinking of the kid’s special possessions that they left inadvertently behind.
The forgotten lunchboxes whose contents will fester for the next few weeks.
The card they’d made for their parents …..

matt
matt
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

At least ours are open tomorrow.

It’s revolting, arrogant behaviour on the part of people who simply cannot see past their own self interest. My kids will be fine, for all that they’ll lose another couple of days of meaningful education, and my wife and I will get by OK getting work done at home as usual while they entertain themselves. But there will be hundreds if not thousands of local parents who have to take three extra days off work and so not earn any money at a time when they can almost certainly not afford to lose 3 days’ work. That’s ignoring the scores of kids for whom every extra day at home is an extra day of risk.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  Danny

I bet some teachers are celebrating at getting to WFH again at the darkest, coldest and wettest time of the year. There was a two buttons meme back in the summer about “Re-open schools” VS “More sleep, no commute, mute annoying kids”

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

2020, when it emerged that teaching unions hate schools and teachers and teachers hate children

matt
matt
5 years ago

So, the leader of Greenwich Borough Council has written to head teachers in the borough “asking” them to close from tomorrow and move to online learning. I’ve just written to him, to the council “cabinet” members responsible for the economy and for children, along with my kids’ school’s head teacher and head of site (copy our local MP and Gavin Williamson) requesting a full explanation, in the light of the fact that child-to-child and child-to-adult transmission is virtually nonexistent and threatening legal action. I’ve also pointed out how unfortunate it is that the phrasing of this as a request makes the individual schools liable, most likely.

String
String
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Well done. TY for posting.
Friend of mine has 2 children both been at home for a while – one was part of an entire year group forced to self-isolate because a single child tested +ve (zero symptoms); the second child is a totally different age group, but was told cannot go to school while his sibling was staying at home. Completely ludicrous, of course, as there literally appears to be no possible end to this, the only answers thus far from the school is along the lines of ‘more testing is the key’. My friend is pushing for more accountability, trying to get justification – seeing as the Gov has admitted (per AG’s FOIA, kindly posted here) that a simple PCR test alone is no proof of infection.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Teachers getting another jolly holiday having not worked for most of the year. Online learning? Nonsense.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

This happened remember?

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

Ah, those were the days!
We were so young and innocent.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

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BIG pHARMA
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String
String
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Kinda sounds like a Wrestling name doesn’t it? “introducing now… Andre the Giant & his tag team partner… Big Pharma!” 🙂

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

One hopes it will be a case of Big Karma when the CEOs go to prison for their collaboration with Chinese spy rings.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago

Live at 9:30 pm (Now)
Mark Windows
Windows on the world
https://windowsontheworld.net/live-shows/
With live chat!

arfurmo
arfurmo
5 years ago

How proud the concerned person who got the plug pulled on a Xmas lightshow must feel knowing that he or she may have saved at least one life https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/tintinhull-christmas-lights-switched-after-4794360

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  arfurmo

The saddest bit is that they blame the people “breaking the rules” and not the one miserable git who phoned the police.

“Such a shame as we have had many pleasant families who have stuck to our requests and have helped us keep everyone else safe. There’s always a certain few who think the rules don’t apply to them.”

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

No the saddest thing is that we live in a society where Christmas lights have become a police matter

stevie119
stevie119
5 years ago
Reply to  arfurmo

Bugger. We were going to see the lights of Tintinhull tomorrow because its lovely and only 3 or so miles. Not no more.

Tommy the Cat
Tommy the Cat
5 years ago

Just asking, but I voted for Bob’s cartoons in the competition and was supposed to get a confirmation email to verify I was a unique person. But I’ve not received anything for over a day and have checked my junk mail. Anyone else had similar issues?

Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

Same here

Sodastream
Sodastream
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

Oh I did that too abs no didn’t get an email I e only just realised now you’ve said…

Tommy the Cat
Tommy the Cat
5 years ago
Reply to  Sodastream

Humm, annoying. Maybe we should a mass one to the organisers.

Tommy the Cat
Tommy the Cat
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

Mass email I mean

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

i voted friday and did get an email . so maybe a glich. try again..

Tommy the Cat
Tommy the Cat
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Cool, will keep an eye out, and post back in if I don’t get one.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

I got an email but it went into spam.

Tommy the Cat
Tommy the Cat
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

Just did it again using gmail. Confirmation email went straight to Spam folder, which is weird because it’s a new sender, so would never do that normally. Anyway, please check you mails to make sure your votes count.

Mabel Cow
Mabel Cow
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

I didn’t get a confirmation email, so I tried again the following day with a different email address and once again, did not get a confirmation email.

Mabel Cow
Mabel Cow
5 years ago
Reply to  Mabel Cow

The spam folder provides. Silly me, should have checked.

Tommy the Cat
Tommy the Cat
5 years ago
Reply to  Mabel Cow

Good stuff.

Bella
Bella
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

I voted on Friday, for Bob, and got an email

GiftWrappedKittyCat
GiftWrappedKittyCat
5 years ago
Reply to  Tommy the Cat

I got an email but when I clicked on the link nothing happened.

OKUK
5 years ago

Which of the following do you think represent the greatest threat to the happiness and security of humanity at large in the near future:

CCP (Chinese Communist Party)

Big Tech (Facebook, Twitter, You Tube, Google etc)

Big Pharma

Far Left

Democratic Party

Covid 19

Climate Change

And why?

Alice
Alice
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I’d say CCP, because it has its tentacles everywhere, it seems – so it influences other actors on the world stage.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Boris Johnson should be on that list.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I’m struggling to see why! Half the time he seems like someone being beaten with rods to keep on track, the other half he seems to be shouting “Look at me! – I can Build Back Better!!”.

Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I’m going for big tech because I think without it none of the other interests would have the means to attack humanity in the ways we have already seen.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Yes, without big tech the last nine months could not have happened.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Without Bill Gates and his plaything Boris Johnson, it wouldn’t have happened.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Yes – good point…online data harvesting and protective censorship for the Dems/Big Pharma.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

China is communist in name only. (See its poverty and billionaires.) No doubt China is part of the Covid Cabal that’s holding us all hostage. (The United States and Pharma part funds the Wuhan lab.)

The WHO, the UN, the banks, Big Pharma (and its shareholders), Bill Gates and the WEF scare me most. And none of this nightmare would be possible without our politicians and the mainstream media

Never been afraid of Covid-19

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Well the number of dirt-poor peasants in China continues to decline rapidly. Income levels have increased hugely since 1980. Deng Xiao Ping, the Supreme Leader of China from 78 through to the late 80s, I think, got into trouble during the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s for saying it doesn’t matter what colour the cat is as long as it catches the mouse. Ponder what that means. Is the cat China or Communism and is the mouse the the non-Chinese world or the non-Communist world – and to most Chinese Communists do these distinctions matter?

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I’m no fan of China. Its desire to promote QR code health passport technology on the rest of the world is an act of aggression IMO. But there’s still poverty in China, anti-suicide nets around factories, scandals about Apple stores etc. Its social credit system is a dystopian nightmare

However, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has a relationship with China and the United States participated in the military games in Wuhan

Almost every nation is in bed with China, including the Americans and it seems like everyone who says they hate China has a home full of products made in China. China is State run capitalist. Hence Chinese billionaires

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Yes I remember the Trot debates about the Soviet Union in the 70s – state capitalist or deformed workers state. Seems to me if you concentrate the power of your whole economy into one person’s hands that is all a bit irrelevant. It is what it is. Probably nakes more sense to describe it as a Pharaoh State.

Andrew K
Andrew K
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I would say 90% of the population who can’t think for themselves. Non of the above terrify us without the fuckwit braindead population.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

Agreed. Human stupidity has brought us to this stage

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

Agreed,

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

I’d say that was grossly unfair. You always need a figure to express the people’s opinion so people can gather around that person. Lech Welesa was probably the classic example. Where are our leaders? Until Desmond Swayne spoke up in September I think there was not a single MP clearly opposing lockdowns. It was scandalous dereliction of duty. I predict that at the first opportunity to make their feelings known at the ballot box, people will.

Bella
Bella
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

You missed out Bill Gates. (I don’t consider him pharma or tech.)

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella

I missed out GSorOs as well!

TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Wow there are so many threats, many more than listed.

However, number 1 is social media, conditioning stupid people to think that their ill-conceived and moronic stream-of-consciousness, is more valid than that of someone who has actually thought about things for more than a millisecond.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I’ve noticed that those on the PC-globalist-Leftist side of things seem to privilege GIFs, movie references, virtue signals , threats, doctored pics, insults, and inaccurate comparisons over reasoned debate.

George L
George L
5 years ago

Please read, what’s now happening in France is appalling..

Early on December 10, Jean-Bernard Fourtillan was taken from his home by a team of French law enforcement officers and forcibly placed in solitary confinement at the psychiatric hospital of Uzès.

And so it begins in the so called land of  liberté egalite fraternité. It was exactly this sort of threat that was written into the UK’s convid act. The placing of an individual into psychiatric hospital with the say-so of just one doctor, not two. I find this deeply disturbing, and I’m sure all those of influence and high profile who are speaking out against the mainstream narrative do too. We are living in increasingly dangerous times.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/accomplished-pharma-prof-thrown-in-psych-hospital-after-questioning-official-covid-narrative

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  George L

The old Soviet ploy of the mental hospital now making an unwelcome return.

George L
George L
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Absolutely.. and quite frankly I can see this sort of behaviour accelerate if the official narrative/control looks threatened by high profile people like our own Dr Mike Yeadon and others like him.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  George L

His photo needs to be displayed in France and on placards on anti-lockdown demonstrations. He must be freed

George L
George L
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Agreed. What’s happening in France is verging on the unbelievable, and unfortunately a majority seem to be sucking it up. The little man in charge and his cronies must think its all over bar the shouting..

OKUK
5 years ago

For those of you on Great Reset watch duty…Sweden is going to look seriously at making their currency digital.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

What happens when digital currency gets hacked?

String
String
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

You find out that you cannot buy food for basically, the forseeable future. Apart from that life is rosy! 🙂

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Or power cuts? Everyone’s skint

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Just cancel and restart…I really don’t think hacking would be a major problem. Has Bitcoin ever been hacked? I don’t think so.

matt
matt
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

For all that lockdown sceptics look to Sweden as the great hope, in my experience, they’ve been virtually cashless for nigh-on a decade. So if that’s your thing, you may want to think about it.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Going cashless voluntarily is totally different from being required to go cashless.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Stupid Swedes have already volunteered themselves to get chipped and go cashless.

A cashless society is one of state control and zero autonomy. Cash is king.

stefarm
stefarm
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

91…really. The beauty of hiding faces behind masks. A complete act and fake

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  stefarm

This too:

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Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

To be fair she pretty much retracted this if you read the original tweet. Apparently CNN uses new pictures on old articles that get bumped up the news feed. Stupid, yes, but there’s no more to it than that.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon
Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Mmmm, with all due respect I’m not convinced.

1) clothing stripes won’t necessarily appear on bad resolution pics, especially if there’s motion when the pics taken. I’m sure you are familiar with how stripes behave funny on lcd preview screens and videos.

2) she’s in her 90s so I’m sure the nurse would find it difficult to locate muscle to inject into. That’s assuming the nurse is even very good to start with, I’ve experienced unexpected behaviours from healthcare professionals before. I once had a blood test where the nurse didn’t wear gloves. I also had a doctor who couldn’t insert a needle for ****.

3) one of the pics where she says there aren’t stripes I can see stripes (about 7.03-25). That and the fact that the other nurse in the first pic has stripes too (7.03).

4) the mask change is probably just a photo ops choice by the media.

5) modern tailoring is shoddy and inconsistent at the best of times and uniforms aren’t what they were 60 years ago. The “ambulance” label is I’d guess just one of those many inconsistencies in design you get between different uniforms these days. I don’t know if you’ve… Read more »

Old Normal
Old Normal
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

She also had 3 different masks on in the photos/video.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Old Normal

Hawkeye!

DRW
DRW
5 years ago

JP Sears’ latest: How the media want you to think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-LHdEUrGa8
Show this to my former colleagues and they’ll be commending it as good responsible advice.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

JP is being threatened with deplatforming.
The video is excellent but there’s also a link so you can stay connected with him.

PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago

BIG BROTHER

There is no life, but the Covid life. All other illnesses and diseases are mere dreams: merely Covid, with other names.

Your past life was still your Covid life, but you didn’t know what to call it.

We came into this world with Covid-19 and we’ll die with Covid-19.
Once we understand that we can carry on with our Covid-19 lives.

No need for tests. We all have it. One death, one death certificate, one word: Covid.

Marialta
Marialta
5 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Like a lot of people I have been dreaming much more since Covid turned the world mad.

Last night I had my first dream which featured specifically unmasked people. This seems really significant. It was a wonderful dream and I woke up feeling refreshed and joyful.

Every day now I feel a dread for the future and could easily give up wanting to go on. Covid has blighted the future, but I guess my dreams of unmasked people will continue.

kenadams
kenadams
5 years ago

Re. Greenwich closing schools – I will never understand one thing above all others: Even if someone believes in Covid dangers and that lockdowns work, why do they prioritise the health of the most decrepit of their remaining grand parents above the education of their own children?

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Because their grandparents are more likely to die and they believe that one death is too many and must be completely prevented.

Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Absolutely. Rational discourse about our mortality is banned.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

I think it has been for some time Charlie, nearly every famous death is reported as a “tragic loss”. Now life is reduced to avoiding dying.

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Yes, like the 86 year-old Charley Pride, who was obviously in the prime of life and robbed of several productive decades by, “Covid-complications.”

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Yes, the reaction was unhinged. 86 is a fantastic age.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Liam

But for Covid, his best years were still to come.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

He had his whole afternoon ahead of him.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

And depriving the old and vulnerable of normal human contact isn’t a ‘tragic loss’?

What a f.ing warped sense of priorities.

Actually, I believe that this sort of crap is nothing to do with care for the old. It’s about the fantasy and self-regard of the young who live in a fearful state of infantilism.

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

One death is only one too many until granny croaks from the vax, whereupon the MSM argument magically becomes, “Silly rabbit, old people die all the time!”

kenadams
kenadams
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

My grandad died in April but not of Covid. He was very ill, in pain, and extremely confused. It was his time to go and a good thing that he went quickly and without prolonged ill health.

Not all deaths are tragedies.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Absolutely. I’ve seen people I love pass away and it was a blessing.

Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Liam

Modern western secular people have lost any sense of mortality. In the old days, when most people attended church weekly or even if they only went occasionally, they were still forced to confront the memento mori of their own transitory physical nature and their part in the great cycle of death and renewal represented in the Eucharist.

It’s not just a religious thing either; a knowledge of the classics and philosophy can help one to understand this reality outside its religious trappings. But nowadays all people get is mindless consumerism; death is perceived as simply the ultimate credit limit; it’s no wonder they have no concept of their own mortality.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Agreed.

Stuart
Stuart
5 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

I’m maxed out and loving it.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Of course not Ken. My mum died last month after about a year of decline from a long term condition, in that state it was time for her to be put out of her misery. Same with some other relatives who struggled on with conditions for much longer. Death is simply an inevitable fact of life.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Exactly and respiratory death has always been seen by medics as a good way to go in old age compared with many alternatives. ,

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

They don’t call pneumonia the old man’s friend for nothing.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Shit happens. Death happens. ‘Get over it’ is the only sane response.

… and if you find that difficult – that’s OK. But thinking otherwise is an indulgence that can’t be afforded.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Some deaths would be a great boost to moral and here I’m particularly thinking of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Matt Hancock, Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Also Nicola Sturgeon, Mark Drakeford and Cressida Dick.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Or are they simply trying to make life as difficult as possible.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

My parents would cheerfully jump off a cliff to help my children.

Adamb
Adamb
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Couldn’t believe it when my wife told me this. I feel like taking a sledgehammer round to their offices.

Dan Clarke
Dan Clarke
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

They believe they can bring the government down and unions will run the state owned establishments on a state paid pittance.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan Clarke

Whist not good it would probably be an improvement on the present arrangements.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  kenadams

Here we go again.

Thank the Lord I have no children.

I feel very sorry for the parents having to put up with this crap but then again many of them are complicit too. As I’ve said before there will be hell to pay when the kids of today grow up.

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