Operation Moonshine: New Rapid Test Misses More Than Half of Infections
In a fresh blow to the Government’s mass testing exit strategy, serious problems have emerged with the new rapid 20-minute test being deployed in the Operation Moonshot pilot in Liverpool this week. The Mail has more.
Rapid tests that give results in less than an hour are being used in the pilot, alongside the normal PCR swab tests that are already used in centres across the country for people with tell-tale symptoms of the illness.
Hospitals in the city were originally supposed to have a 20-minute test at their disposal – to be used to routinely test all of their staff in a separate trial – but it emerged today the machines are less than 50% accurate. Despite worries they are not good enough, officials will still use the kits on NHS workers.
In a blow to Boris Johnson’s ambition of carrying out 10 million tests a day by 2021, researchers found the Optigene Direct RT-Lamp tests missed more than half of positive cases in a trial in Manchester, meaning they risk dangerously underestimating the number of people who are actually infected.
The Government was, as usual, undeterred by unfavourable data on the accuracy of its tests.
Liverpool city officials say the Direct RT-Lamp tests tests were never intended to be used on members of the public and that the mass testing scheme is still going ahead as normal.
While the Department of Health accepted the Manchester study’s findings, it claimed other trials of the Lamp test had shown it to be between 80 and 96% accurate. The Government department said the machine shouldn’t be written off yet…
Everyone in the city is being asked to get tested, but particularly health and care workers, other emergency services and key workers and school or university staff and students.
Lateral flow tests, which work like pregnancy tests and give results in under an hour, will be used along with existing PCR swab tests. Both work in ultimately the same way, amplifying genetic material then looking for signs of the virus.
Lateral flow uses a different type of enzyme which allows the test to be done at one temperature, which makes it faster but less accurate.
PCR uses another type of enzyme and the process has to be repeated at different temperatures, which means it takes longer but is more accurate.
A group of academics has protested the scheme in a letter to the city’s MPs, citing grave concerns about the accuracy of the tests and the likelihood of a poorly conceived mass screening programme to be “an expensive mess that does more harm than good”.
A group of academics, including Allyson Pollock, Professor of Public Health at Newcastle University, said plans to test asymptomatic people in Liverpool went against SAGE advice to prioritise testing for those who were displaying symptoms.
In a letter sent to the city’s MPs on Thursday evening, they said: “Searching for symptomless yet infectious people is like searching for needles that appear transiently in haystacks. The potential for harmful diversion of resources and public money is vast. Also of concern are the potential vested interests of commercial companies supplying new and as yet inadequately evaluated tests.”
And Angela Raffle, a consultant in Public Health based in Bristol, warned the half a billion pound project could be a costly failure.
She said: “Experience with screening tells us that if you embark on a screening programme without having carefully evaluated it first, without a proper quality assured pathway, without certainty of test performance in field settings, without full information for participants, and without the means to ensure that the intervention needed for those with positive results does indeed take place, the result is an expensive mess that does more harm than good. Having looked carefully into what is being proposed, my assessment is that the current proposals for screening the City of Liverpool using SARS-CoV-2 rapid tests are not fit for purpose.”
The academics were also concerned about the tests offering false negatives and false positives.
Professor Pollock told the PA news agency: “The test is not a measure of infection or infectiousness, it simply tells you if there is viral RNA present. It gives a binary yes or no result, but the reality is much more complex than that. It tests for viral fragments, these could be left-over debris from a previous infection or live virus. Even then, it doesn’t tell you if you are infectious.”
She added: “My concerns are that the current proposals for city-wide screening will fail to realise any worthwhile benefit, and will cause substantial harm through diversion of resources. They will also distract from solving the widely reported problems with the test and trace programme. It is my view that the National Screening Committee should be asked to rapidly review the proposals as a matter of urgency, in order that the plans can be subject to scrutiny by people with appropriate knowledge and experience.”
The letter to the MPs was signed by Prof Pollock and Dr Raffle as well as Anthony Brooks, Professor of Genomics and Bioinformatics at Leicester University; Louisa Harding-Edgar, GP and Academic Fellow in General Practice at Glasgow University and Stuart Hogarth, sociology lecturer at Cambridge University.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The headteacher of the Broadgreen International School, a technology college in Liverpool, sent a very sinister letter to parents yesterday, informing them how “privileged” they should feel that the army will be in the school on Monday testing all the children, marking them with a barcode and detaining those who test positive. The head adds that parental permission won’t be sought because “under these very challenging and unprecedented circumstances that is not possible”. Surely, this isn’t legal?
In spite of the unbelievably sloppy mistakes and the fact that it reads like a parody – has Liverpool turned into East Berlin? – the letter appears to be authentic. You can download it from the school’s website here.
New Coronavirus Strain Jumps From Mink to Humans, Threatening Vaccine Viability
Denmark is to slaughter its entire population of 17 million farmed mink after more than 200 people were confirmed to have been infected with a mutant strain of coronavirus that is believed to have originated when SARS-CoV-2 jumped from humans to mink earlier in the year. The Times has more.
The outbreak has led Denmark to seal off seven areas in the north of the country today affecting about 280,000 people, almost 5% of the Danish population, and involves the closure of public transport into and out of North Jutland, where many of the country’s more than 1,100 fur farms are located. Schools, bars, restaurants, museums, libraries, swimming pools and gyms were ordered to shut for at least four weeks.
Denmark, one of the world’s largest producers of mink pelts, announced on Wednesday that it would cull its entire mink population of up to 17 million animals after the virus jumped from mink to humans.
Ms Frederiksen said that the government had a duty to act out of responsibility for both the Danish population and the rest of the world after it confirmed that 214 people had been identified as having the mutated form of the virus. It is thought that the mink had caught the original form of COVID-19, and then transmitted the mutated form back to humans.
The extreme containment measures are not related to the severity of the illness but to fears of its impact on a vaccine.
The Danish Government has said there is no sign yet that the mutant strain causes worse symptoms than the main COVID-19 virus type. The main concern is that the mink mutation diverges more than other mutations seen so far, posing the risk that vaccinations under development around the world may not work on it.
The culling of an entire captive population of millions of animals to try to rescue the vaccine effort is perhaps the clearest sign yet that the war against Covid is a battle against nature and the inescapable reality that human beings are biological creatures. It is a basic biological fact that viruses mutate and jump from animals to humans and back frequently. Most of the time we don’t notice because nothing harmful comes of it, or the pathogen becomes just one more cause of cold or flu (one of the reasons we keep getting colds, Chris Whitty, not because we don’t develop lasting resistance to each strain).
If SARS-CoV-2 has already jumped to mink and back (and of course we don’t yet know that this is what has happened), what’s to stop it doing it again and again and again, with different species or the same species? Are we going to slaughter every animal population when this common natural event occurs? Are we going to stay away from all those filthy animals so no one ever catches any more colds from them?
Ordinarily this kind of thing would be a non-event, not even noticed, unless the new strain happened to be unusually virulent. It’s only become a major situation, accompanied by lockdowns and culls, because of the threat to the Covid vaccine project – despite the fact that the vaccines are not being developed to prevent transmission or lower risk of death. What a terrible waste of money and life.
Yet another reminder that you can’t defeat a virus, you can only build up immunity to it in the safest way available.
Covid Fines Imposed For Non-Essential Travel Should Not Be Paid
A Lockdown Sceptics reader has emailed to say in a recent conversation with a senior police officer and a barrister he was authoritatively informed that fines currently being levied for Covid travel infractions have no basis in law and no action can be taken if they are not paid – and in their view they should not be paid. The following account has been confirmed by the barrister concerned.
Was present last week at an interesting discussion between a senior police officer and a barrister regarding the police fines currently being issued to drivers deemed by the police to be travelling unnecessarily.
The conversation arose when my wife related the story of her cousin who had been issued with a £1,000 fine having been stopped by police while returning home following collection of a new puppy. The officer deemed the trip to be “non-essential” and “without reasonable purpose” and as a consequence issued the ticket which she subsequently paid.
This sparked a debate between my two clients who both agreed within short order that in their view the fine should not have been paid as the legal basis set out in the Coronavirus Act for such fines is questionable and open to challenge.
The view of the two law professionals was that the Act fails to define the most important terms in respect of what is ‘reasonable’ and does not contain a definition of what a “reasonable” person would deem to be a “reasonable” excuse for leaving their home. They suggested that in the absence of a more highly specified definition (which may well be impossible) that this is a subjective judgement, open to individual interpretation and as a consequence difficult to enforce, introducing as it does reasonable doubt about guilt.
Indeed it would appear the CPS are aware of the difficulty given that of the 44 cases that they have been asked to prosecute following non-payment of such fines, 31 have been withdrawn by them and a further 13 have been sent back as “incorrectly charged”.
Clearly the CPS may be unwilling to apply an expensive judicial test to a case they understand they are likely to lose whilst making themselves liable for defence costs consequent upon the return of a not guilty verdict.
One further point is that if the “view” that there is no legal basis for enforcing payment of these fines is vindicated it does lead to the prospect of a future civil class action by individuals, such as my wife’s cousin, to reclaim their payment together with any costs associated with taking such action. And it should be noted that anyone in this position has up to six years to lodge any such claim.
In 12 months might we then expect TV advertisements by the usual suspects with the strapline: “Have you been fined while maskless, driving to your Zumba class in Ponytpridd? If so please call… etc.”
Boris is Exploiting the Politics of Fear
Excellent sceptical comment from Simon Jenkins in the Guardian, bringing some much-needed liberal pushback to this authoritarian Conservative Government.
With COVID-19, Boris Johnson, very reasonably, initially opposed a return to the blanket lockdown policy. But when his scientists had him in a corner last week he had to turn to fear to justify his U-turn. He threatened that “several thousand people a day would die” – 4,000 was widely quoted – if he did not proceed to a lockdown across England. This worst-case scenario figure was subsequently shown to be based on a projection inflated by a factor of more than four. The Oxford Professor of Evidence-Based Medicine Carl Heneghan, speaking on the BBC on Monday, as good as called it a lie, since modelling “beyond two weeks carries a huge margin of error”. On Tuesday the Government Chief Scientist, Sir Patrick Vallance, retreated and regretted the figure, slashing it by four. He denied he was trying to scare people and drew a distinction between a “reasonable worst case scenario”, a model and forecast – a distinction lost on the public when threatened with thousands of dead bodies.
At such times evidence matters. Johnson never revealed figures from the Health Service Journal, confirmed by the BBC, that British hospital bed occupancy is still at or below its seasonal normal.
We are never reminded that three-quarters of deaths in the first wave of the virus were confined to 5% of the population judged to be at the highest risk, since that might argue for a “shielding” rather than a “blanket” lockdown. Certainly there was not the vaguest mention of the stupefying cost of resumed lockdown. Johnson had merely lost patience with localism and had to scare London so as not to seem unfair to Manchester.
These are desperate issues for people on all sides of the argument, but the public is left floundering between unresolved conflicts over figures and politicians pounding away at anyone’s natural fear of death. There is no sense of a balance of miseries. As with the earlier neglect of care homes, we have one sector of the welfare state, the NHS, exploiting fear – nightly on BBC television news – to guard its own corner. That is what the security industry does in the case of terrorism.
I would say worth reading in full, but the first part of the piece condemns French PM Macron for condemning Islamist terrorists (apparently because that’s what they want). Ah well, can’t get it all right.
Hospital Admissions with COVID-19 in England Flat For 10 Days
Getting the message yet, Boris?
Stop Press: Great piece in the Mail piling pressure on the Government with “More proof England’s second wave of COVID-19 was slowing BEFORE lockdown“.
“We Need Urgently to Consider Our Weighted Strategic Objectives”
A reader sent us the reply a friend of his received from their MP, Jonathan Djanogly, member for Huntingdon and one of the Tory heroes from Wednesday’s vote. He was a Remainer, which shows it’s not just hard-core Brexiteers who see through the Government moonshine on lockdowns.
My decision to vote against full lockdown has not been taken lightly. Indeed, I have supported the Government, albeit with increasing reluctance, on each of the previous Covid related votes.
These included measures to restrict economic activity, social distancing and the curtailing of personal liberty in ways that until recently would have been totally unimaginable to our freedom loving people.
Included in this was the “rule of six” and the “10 pm rule”, neither of which stand up to close review but where I voted to support the Government plans to defeat the virus. In the same way I voted in support of the regional tier system and numerous other measures of varying effectiveness.
Here in Huntingdonshire, as of last Friday, we had very low and stable figures of 58 cases per 100,000 people which is approximately between 10 and 20 times lower than the figure required for Tier 3 status. About half a dozen beds are Covid occupied in Hinchingbrooke Hospital. In effect, without lockdown we would have remained at Tier 1 status. This is of great credit to the caution and sensible behaviour shown by residents locally, and also reflects the excellent local public service and council provision that I am seeing.
If I was to support further restrictions on our liberty, I would need not only more evidence of their chances of success than I have received to date, but also an understanding as to why Cambridgeshire should be treated in exactly the same way as high risk areas in the North-East and North-West.
One can find experts that have opposing views on almost every aspect of the health issues involved in the crisis. I am mindful also that medical advice that the Government has accessed to date has effectively failed. There is little evidence to show that a lockdown ultimately reduces death, whether it will merely kick the can down the road and cause other health problems, whether interrupting transmission slows herd immunity, whether the lockdown causes more loss of life than it prevents; and so the unanswered questions go on.
In the meantime, I’m growing increasingly concerned at the severe mental health implications of lockdown. This impacts on all generations, with people cooped up at home, elderly unable to see family and leisure and cultural activities blocked. Sadly, one fifth of 18 to 24-year-olds furloughed have now lost their jobs. A further lockdown will inevitably accelerate this process, with a severe mental health knock-on.
One well respected local family business of some 40 years standing has just contacted me to say that they will not be able to stand a further lockdown. The majority of local businesses I speak to have made redundancies. This area has one of the highest proportions of small business ownership in the country; typically without the capital reserves of large corporations. These businesses have done everything they can to stay afloat through finding new markets, through taking up government loans and furlough schemes and general twisting and turning to do anything and everything to keep their businesses alive.
Restaurants and pubs have been selling their food as takeaway and factory businesses have been manufacturing items out of their ordinary production lines just to keep their machines running and staff in work. I have been incredibly impressed with the resilience and resourcefulness of our local businesses and they frankly deserve more than for me to tell them I have voted for a further lockdown given our local Covid rate and the national lack of evidence.
Our local health workers, carers and volunteers have also done a magnificent job and many lessons have now been learnt that should improve health and care provision with the second wave of the virus. Yes, of course we need to save the NHS but this cannot be at the cost of wiping out the economy; without which there will be no money to pay for an NHS.
The problem is that we (including MPs) are not getting a weighted assessment of the health costs in the context of all the other costs. When the Allied forces planned D-Day, an assessment of the human and material costs were drawn up before deciding to invade. It would be wrong to say that Churchill and the generals failed to show humanity in their assessment of likely casualties and human cost of invasion, but they weighed this up against the strategic objective of defeating Nazism and creating a democratic European continent.
As we now roll from one lockdown to another, with no vaccine, with a struggling testing system and no effective track and trace system, we need urgently to consider our weighted strategic objectives accepting that whatever happens, lockdown or not, we are ultimately going to have to learn to live with this virus.
Stop Press: Former Brexit secretary David Davis appeared on talkRADIO with Julia Hartley-Brewer and declared the “bogus” coronavirus modelling used to justify a second lockdown a “scandal”.
Downfall Parody
A reader has emailed us with a good suggestion.
Rational scepticism has so far failed. It’s time to deploy ridicule. There is now a sufficient flow of codswallop coming from the Government to support a ‘Downfall’ parody at least once a week – possibly daily. First one should be Boris/Adolf berating Witless and Unbalanced because the data they relied on to bamboozle the British public into supporting Lockdown 2.0 was riddled with errors: “I know they’re idiots, but they’re not that dumb! Even Carrie saw through that bollocks.”
Come on, Downfall parody creators. It’s time to get to work. The only lockdown-related one we can find is this one and it’s eight months old. The reader has suggested the following starter-for-10:
Adolf/Boris: What is it with you boffins? You promised me 4,000 deaths a day, and what did we get yesterday? A pathetic 355. What the f**k?!? And don’t tell me it was a scenario, not a prediction. We all know – everybody in this f**king room knows – that it was meant to scare everybody witless, and give me cover.
Lackey: Cover for another lockdown, mine Fuhrer?
Adolf/Boris: [taking off glasses] No, you inverted pyramid of piffle. Cover for making a bedwetting clown of myself back in March by listening to you lot, with your charts and graphs. You promised me – promised me – that this time it wasn’t some half-arsed spreadsheet with numbers pulled out of Professor Ferguson’s rectum. You swore to me that this time you knew what you were talking about. You promised me a wonder weapon – a copper-bottomed prediction of an Ebola-like plague if we didn’t immediately lock everyone up. A forecast that would not within days be shown to be laughably wrong. A forecast that would drive Heneghan, Gupta and the rest of those infernal sceptics clan back into the sea. And what did I get? More of the same balls that you’ve given me since you bounced me into this whole pantomime back in March. Why did I listen to you? Good God, you promised me 85,000 deaths in Sweden if they carried on the way they were, and the last I heard it was scarcely any more than 6,000. You realise what a fool I look now?”
Lackey: But, mine Fuhrer, we were trying to save the NHS…
Boris/Adolf: Screw the NHS! Turns out, it’s the NHS that’s been giving everyone the virus…
Round-Up
- “Herd Immunity as a Coronavirus Pandemic Strategy” – Watch last night’s big debate between Stanford’s Professor Jay Bhattacharya and Harvard’s Professor Marc Lipsitch, sponsored by the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA)
- “ONS study finds infections slowed before lockdown” – Ross Clark in the Spectator on yet more evidence that the epidemic is not growing exponentially. When will Boris admit it?
- “Whatever the science of this lockdown, the execution has been a disgrace” – Excellent editorial from the Spectator
- “A hostage-eye view of the lockdown” – Rachel Chandler, whose husband Paul wrote in Lockdown Sceptics this week about their abduction by Somali pirates, writes in Conservative Woman that “Boris is the new Buggas”
- “Ripped Gym in Harlow. Interview with owner who defied November lockdown rules” – Heartening to see some conscientious non-compliance
- “Arrests as anti-lockdown and ‘Million Mask March’ demonstrators gather in London” – And some more, from Sky News
- “How police snuffed out yesterday’s anti-lockdown demonstration” – Eye witness account from Paul Reed in Conservative Woman
- “Priti Patel’s Covid autocracy” – Spiked editorial on the Government’s latest authoritarian move: a ban on protests, which the home secretary has told police she expects them to enforce
- “Lockdown frays after just one day, with protests planned across England over the weekend” – Signs of hope in the Telegraph
- “‘Toxic lockdown’ sees huge rise in babies harmed or killed” – Yet another tragic consequence of the endless lockdowns from BBC News
- “A senseless shutdown, with Daniel Hannan” – Watch the lockdown sceptic politician interviewed for the Spiked podcast
- “Pin the tail on the lockdown donkey” – Laura Dodsworth asks for the evidence in the Critic
- “Lockdown and the death of a lovely dad” – Andrew Devine in Conservative Woman relays a tragic lockdown story, with a telling ending about a false attempt by a doctor to record a Covid death. One of many, we might presume
- “Why it is right to question the orthodox COVID-19 narrative” – Lockdown Sceptics contributor Matthew Ratcliffe and Ian James Kidd in the Critic respond to their critics with an up-to-date run through of the case against lockdowns
- “Crucial Viral Update: UK Revelations a Plenty!” – Latest video from Ivor Cummins with a special focus on the present UK debacle
- “PANDA – Pandemics Data & Analytics” – Organisation based in South Africa with a stellar sceptic scientific advisory board (think GBD) that is well worth checking out
- “The Government admits its ‘facts’ are wrong, yet continues on its dangerous path” – Michael Curzon in Bournbrook wonders when the Government will start to realise how wrong they are
- “Graham Hutchinson, Ex Senior Chief Biomedical Scientist Public Health UK” – New video from Brees Media with a former senior biomedical scientist giving his support to Dr Mike Yeadon
- “HALF of children may be immune to COVID-19 despite never being infected because their antibodies for the common cold neutralise the virus – but just 5% of adults have them” – Report on a new study in the Mail. There are also T-cells of course
- “Face Masks: A Danger to Our Planet, Our Children & Ourselves” – Solid critique of the problems with masks by Cory Morningstar in OffGuardian
- “Our national spiritual leaders have fallen short” – Richard Turnbull in the Critic wonders where the fire of resistance to tyranny has gone amongst Christian leaders
- “The Government’s Covid scaremongering” – Good piece in UnHerd from BBC journalist Timandra Harkness
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just one today: “Don’t fence me in” by Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.
Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today we bring you a marvellous rant against “the march of wokeism” by Trevor Phillips in the Times.
I was taking part in an online seminar with several hundred public servants recently when one of them started his question to me with an earnest apology: “I am a man of white privilege . . .”. I found it hard not to laugh out loud. Things have come to a pretty pass when people prostrate themselves in public for having a prostate gland, not to mention dumping on their parents for being the wrong colour.
I’d been introduced as someone who had spent more than 40 years trying to ensure people weren’t judged by their race or gender. My idealistic questioner seemed to have missed that bit. I assured him — maybe a little too brusquely — that I wouldn’t hold his colour or his sex against him. His question turned out to be a reasonable one about how to recruit more women but it sounded as though this thoughtful young man was too consumed with angst about his own ethnicity and gender, probably reinforced by some spectacularly bad diversity training, to apply much logic to the problem.
Personally I find the appeal of this brand of ethno-masochism hard to fathom, but then I’m not white. Yet increasingly, such “woke” thinking is flooding our workplaces, schools and universities. It is two centuries since this country abolished the Test Acts under which people were required to make a pledge of religious observance to qualify for public office or the civil service. But once again employees are being required to sign up to statements of belief or face denunciation, demotion and dismissal. Arcane arguments about white privilege and Pythonesque disputes about whether men can be women are no longer confined to warring left-wing sects or social media; they are eating away at the heart of leading institutions, corporations and government itself.
Worth reading in full.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.
Mask Censorship: The Swiss Doctor has translated the article in a Danish newspaper about the suppressed Danish mask study. Largest RCT on the effectiveness of masks ever carried out. Rejected by three top scientific journals so far.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last month and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this hit job the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now well over 600,000 signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
Christian Concern is JR-ing the Government over its insistence on closing churches during the lockdowns. Read about it here.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email [email protected] or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Shameless Begging Bit
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And Finally…
In his Speccie column this week, Toby mourns the loss of simple pleasures during Lockdown 2.0 and worries about the impact on his 12-year-old son.
The one thing I will really miss, though, is going to the football, which I had naively thought might be possible again this year. I even bought two season tickets to my beloved QPR – one for me, one for my 12-year-old son, Charlie – and nonchalantly ignored the deadline for applying for a refund. At one point, the club announced that a few hundred fans would be allowed into the ground and Charlie and I eagerly put our names in the hat, only for the offer to be withdrawn when the ‘rule of six’ was introduced.
He concludes:
Charlie told me last week, after QPR beat Cardiff 3-2, that going to games with me had been the happiest moments of his life so far. We cannot continue to deny ourselves these experiences. If we do, something in us will die.
Worth reading in full.
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I spotted this on ‘The Register’ tech magazine site, which didn’t get much publicity.
https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/29/nhs_covid_19_app_update/
The NHS app is being made ‘more sensitive’ leading to more people told to self isolate. Coincidence that this was done just before ‘mass testing’?
Our Common Future manifesto.
The Prisoner. We are the Unmutuals.
ChrisLam. Approved by the Pope.
The Great Reset.
The government guidance for Remembrance Day will turn your stomach (ASD, T&T, no singing etc.). Don’t bother, let me summarise for you: the bastards that are stealing *all* our freedoms don’t want you to honour the people (your relatives, maybe) who fought and died for those freedoms. So get out there and do it this morning.
To the fallen, we salute you.
To those ‘in power’…you are not worth my invective; you are the lowest of the low.
In each case, but for very different reasons, “we will remember them”.
The darkest hour is just before the dawn. Hold on. We need you.
Here, here
Just ignore the lockdown
I see that with people
Roads are busy
Next door has people coming and going
About 2/3 of the cars in the residential streets around came and went during the course of Saturday.
They didn’t seem to be going shopping as the supermarkets were not at all busy.
The chap in the apartment across from me had his mum over as usual and the girl downstairs came and went with her boyfriend who does not live here so all pretty normal for a Saturday.
Local Live
Shock and Horror rock the city as a Coronovirus Related DEATH is reported from the major regional hospital ! ! !
This follows yet Another Coronovirus Related DEATH just ONE WEEK before !
Which means Total Coronovirus Slaughter has Doubled since the last Sadlidied in June !
(That’s the scary news folks, slightly edited by yours truly.)
Jeez, k; that sounds serious.
I’m hope you’re rembering to ‘stay home’ to ‘protect the nhs’ to ‘save lives’. 😉
Fortunately I was at home when I read of the devastation but put on an extra duvet and, although a lapsed soul, whispered a little prayer for the success off our glorious leader in his battles to rid us of this scourge.
😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷
The police turned up to my address tonight apparently I had set fireworks of in my back garden with my family. Guess what told them that yes I had let fireworks off but so what? The family had left an hour ago before. There is no lockdown unless you comply
Incredible!
Surprising amount of people walking around the city high street given that only Tesco Metro, M+S and a couple of take away coffee places would be open.
Fewer masks being worn on the street so perhaps it is a subtle ‘up yours bozo’.
I suppose they could claim ‘reasonable excuse’ of taking their permitted exercise by window shopping.
No Police around for the third day running.
If you do one thing this weekend have a look at Ivor Cummins latest video on YouTube. I took notes as I went but I’m sure you youngsters on here have better memories than me. I found the information given and the way is was presented an absolute gold mine. Happy viewing:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=_eJuj0rx-48
YEs – Ivor Cummins latest video is as good as usual.
I’ve sent the link to my MP, and told her to watch it before she sends another ‘we have to save lives’ reply to me.
Thanks Arnie, well worth watching.
The first half covering the course of the first wave and not-second wave came to conclusions that were predicted as far back as the first week in June when ONS published that overall deaths in London had fallen below the five year average for that week.
Everything else flows from that one thing and it was foretold at the time.
Disappointing to see the Queen in a face nappy today. She must have been lent on heavily after her recent naked face appearance.
Absolutely unforgivable. But then Prince Andrew probably already took away any faith one should have. I prefer the fiction of the crown to the bollocks of reality. Good night all.
Is that Theresa May sticking a swab up her nose in the picture in today’s blog?
Anyway, just to impart a little optimism on another fucked-up Saturday night in psy-op lala land.
Me and Mrs2-6 went to a country park today and we didn’t accidentally bump into a few other sceptics, shake hands or hug or have a few beers and good old sceptical chat.
Oh no we stayed 2 meters apart, wore blue gloves, face nappies and visors and we made sure we turned away from each other and tried to use the minimum of words during interpersonal communication in order to stay safe at all times. We passed around the hand sanitizer. Not the beers.
We had a lovely time and stayed safe too!
I must say the park was RAMMED, I have honestly not seen it so busy EVER, the little cafe there was doing a roaring trade with a big que for the snack bar and the bogs.
Many people out and about, no face nappies, it was just us who were taking the rules seriously!
Honest
😉
I believe you. Thousands wouldn’t. 😷
Haha – just the one old trout shaking her head too
Everyone else no probs.
And Mr CGL said how busy it was too – had trouble getting through everyone on his way back with provisions we had forgotten to bring.
A great afternoon!
Whoops
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8924191/Coronavirus-thousands-died-Covid-19-caught-hospitals.html
Replying to myself because the more you read that report the more angry i guarantee you will get. And my (not yet born) grand kids will still be paying the price for saving the NHS ! Everyone clap.
Another thing that leaped out at me and keeps coming back due to a documentary I saw a few weeks ago, a minor point in the text was this “After a shift, the only place to change would be a staff loo”.
The one person I do know who died with Covid in March (note With) was a
Security officer who was continuing to work and using shared facilities, such as changing room toilets. I’ve read that Security Staff are actually (unlike shop staff) disproportionately affected with higher infections and deaths. Might that be due to shared facilities, maybe ?
My wife went to Stratford Westfield in early mid March and had to use a public toilet and a few days later…….Covid. Hospitals and care homes – shared toilets. Lots of Covid.
SARS Cov1 was known to carry through toilets…..
Has this theory been looked at ?
Faecal Plumes!!!!!!
Indeed. Maybe I’m over thinking of and I’m full of shit.
no really that’s what emerging medial science is saying, when you flush close the lid of you will spray a plume of toilet into the air in an aerosol and that’s how you get covids.
My cereal nearly wallpapered the room! Tears of mirth!
Yep. Replying to myself like a nutter. It’s been looked at.
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/sars-cov-2-orofecal-transmission/
So nappies on your face and bum next.
ah ehm…anti covid butt-plugs, fauchi recommended them back in april as well as goggles.
What a surprise; Carl Heneghan again. What a guy!
Singapore got its Nosocomial infection rate down to statistical zero in March by being absolutely rabid about handwashing, operating under assumption primary transfer vector is contact or oral-foecal, same as Norovirus or Polio.
However that means all the antisocial distancing and face masks is a complete waste of time so it was memory holed.
https://www.market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=239747
And sudden,y, the hospitals have discovered something to their advantage:
“University Hospitals Bristol and Weston NHS Trust said of our report: ‘The figures relate to patients who have died and had tested positive for Covid-19.
‘This does not mean that they passed away from Covid-19 related disease.’
The other Trusts mentioned were approached for comment, and said deaths ‘with’ Covid-19 were not always the same as deaths ‘from’ Covid-19.”
Now who’d have thought it?
Bloody damn lying hypocritical twats.
Too right hypocritical in the extreme.
Shocker, eh?
They now start to say exactly what we have been saying from the beginning, just to try and cover their arses!
Begs the question, though; why did they remove that from the deaths page on the Gov.uk page (see image).
I wonder if, on the back of this article, they’ll put it back.
That article…It blames all the naughty nurses for not wearing the face nappies and sharing snacks, and yes why not put all the covid patients, you know the ones that need all kinds of specialist care in a proper hospital in a sports center with one toilet and hundreds of ventilators and nothing else, to let them die there, sedated and ventilated.
great idea….
These people are just such…errr what’s the word…….it begins with C…..
Poor old bugger! Negligent Homicide? Criminally Negligent Manslaughter?
Clap the NHS (while we kill your Grandad).
And in both cases faked as a new hospital admission to scare the masses, like I’ve been banging on about for weeks, as you all know. 🙁
I know you’re fed up seeing them, but here are the links again.
https://dailysceptic.org/2020/10/14/latest-news-162/#comment-186272
https://dailysceptic.org/2020/10/15/#how-many-hospital-cases-are-really-covid
Sorry, another reply from me.
Yes, Lee, really angry, as you said we would be.
When The Mail on Sunday requested East Kent’s hospital-acquired infection rates, it chose to withhold the information as it would be ‘potentially misleading’ and said it would publish its own report soon.
A spokesperson said: ‘It is unlikely Mr Lukehurst acquired Covid in hospital. His inquest concluded that Covid was not a cause of death.‘
In fact, the inquest into Mr Lukehurst’s death revealed he had died of acute bronchopneumonia, with Covid-19 a contributory factor.
What a bunch of lying bastards!
So, it’s a Covid death until someone questions it! This explains a few things for me.
As you all know, I’m a saddo who looks at the PHE/NHS figures very carefully each day. Every day when I check the ‘actual date of death*’ figures, I see lots of dates where the original numbers go down (by 1 here, by 2 there). I’ve long suspected these were corrections being made when families questioned the death cert, or where a post-mortem had been demanded.
I wonder if my suspicion was correct. Also another pointer to the ‘reported’ death* figure being bullshit!
*Death WITH Covid, not OF Covid, if… Read more »
Hey Toby… the ‘get the email latest’ pop up is having issues with cookies… would you be able to switch off until resolved please?
As in, the banner message is still showing after signing up… would help us mobile folk, thanks 🙏
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8924923/Boris-Johnsons-astonishing-bid-nail-leaker-bounced-second-coronavirus-lockdown.html
Good second bit by David Mellor, the first bit about the leak is a bit blah and seems to be #10 led. Quoting Doves and Hawks. Yuck
Excellent attack by Mellor, IMO.
Songbird a new movie starts in the 216th week of lockdown:
“Indeed, Songbird is not deeply disturbing because it stretches the imagination into shockingly novel and unthinkable territory, as is to be expected from fiction, but rather, it sends chills up the spine because it speaks to what many of us are already horrified to have seen and believe will likely continue to see happening around us, in the name of “protecting the public against deadly viruses.”
In fact, many of the terrifying scenes within the film’s trailer will already be familiar to the public because have already been seeded and administered in shocking doses by the Chinese and global media, such as images of citizens dropping dead in the streets, being forcibly removed from their homes by militarized medical police, or the soldering shut of buildings to keep newly quarantined citizens inside their homes-become-lockdown cells.
It is conspicuous that Songbird somehow received approval to be the first feature film to be made during COVID-19 in Los Angeles when virtually all other major products were forbidden from continuing. Also, STX Entertainment’s top investors include Chinese companies such as Tencent, a multinational technology conglomerate holding company which includes medical and artificial intelligence divisions, and… Read more »
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXlOSEafzhY
“Predictive programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by our leaders. If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as natural progressions, thus lessening possible public resistance and commotion.” ~ Alan Watts
Isnt that what the main stream media do every day now? I think we’ve already got our eyes wide open for that game.
This sounds like a hideous psy-op
Basically.
Here is the link to the official guidance for Remembrance Sunday:
<dontfuckingbotherlooking.gov.twats>
The memory if brave men besmirched by crawling grovelling nappied zombies.
Keep away.
Pay your own tribute, with dignity.
PCR is prone to contamination by very small amount of viral particles.
Hypothesis: we usually don’t notice contamination, especially when it is happening *before* putting the probes into the PCR apparatus. This may even mimick a super spreader event.
Thread with examples
https://twitter.com/frankfurtzack/status/1299762933073838082?s=21
An elaboration of what we know – PCR testing is a highly sensitive lab procedure – not a diagnostic test. The potential sources of error in the chain of events are immense, and no one who is serious would use it for mass testing.
Have been posting on a Golf Monthly forum the last two days on thread called “New lockdown will golf courses close”
You would not believe the virtue signalling sheep supporting the lockdown. “it’s for the greater good” or “to help saves lives”
When I tried to criticise the merry band running this travesty my posts were deleted by a moderator because they were “political”
Why the freekin flip did they have to stop people from playing golf?
I mean, I can see why golf should be banned but not because of covid.
😉
Haha
Same though with all outdoor sports
So why is it political when you argue against lockdown but not when you argue for it?
The demographic who play golf the most are elderly men.Golf clubs love arcane rules so have took to this like ducks to water.
Some have realised they will go bust if this continues but a lot,like pubs and restaurants acquiesce in their own demise.
More grief for the gym owners, snitched in by parking stasi:
https://twitter.com/pacertiOfficial/status/1325078074963222528
In years to come these collaborators and their children and grand children will have to watch these clips in documentaries
The scenes are reminiscent of the films we see of the SS committing atrocities in Eastern European villages
There will be a special place in hell for these people
Yes, a small, mean place where they snitch on one another for all eternity.
Why are there so many plods there? Seems to me police are grossly overmanned. There appear to be at least 8 of them there. Of course if you report a burglary they will be too busy to come round.
Suicides in Glasgow exceeding covid deaths.
London ambulance service reporting suicides now equalling covid deaths.
Figures exceedingly hard to find. Makes me wonder is somebody has something to hide?…
Which way is the suicide rate gonna go we wonder?
I lost my business partner to suicide 3 weeks ago due to losing our business. We lost our business due to lockdown NOT covid.
I will NEVER forgive or forget. I am relentless. It is heartening to see so many others like me.
My love and admiration to you all in these dark times. We cannot lose unless we allow it.
Arnie.
And when they say ”covid deaths” they don’t even mean people actually suffering FROM it, but only showing a (usually false) positive test result.
So if suicide rates exceed these – then that’s truly appalling.
Oh dear, Arnie. This is so dreadful for you. Our anger on your behalf and those like you just cannot be expressed.
I’m an old soldier Banjones, I’ll survive. But I don’t want to JUST survive any more, it’s personal, heart breakingly, gut wrenchingly so. I want the people dying this brought to account, I want them on trial and if/when found guilty I want them punished.
I know from past experience that nobody wins in a war. If this turns into a civil war I will fight because I have nothing left. That makes me a nightmare for the bad guys.
But we are civilised. That is where we must start & try to stay. Once we lose our humanity then we have lost.
Thank you for your thoughts it means a lot. Let’s get this problem sorted now before anybody else gets grief…
Arnie.
Suicide numbers are not reported too often, once a year and a year lag here in Northern Ireland. For obvious reasons they don’t want to focus the media’s attention. The media are also careful not to publicise suicides.
That being said, even before Covid West Belfast had the highest suicide rate in Europe for young men.
At least somebody wants your stories now. PANDA that is referenced above the line is collecting them. Do send them in. It’s such powerful witness to the lockdownistas.
https://pandata.org/submit-your-story/
and it’s something to do to express our anguish, to bear witness to it.
Thanks Rosie. That’s tonight’s mission then. I hope you’re ok & bearing up. I’m definitely seeing the green shoots here, more than that actually it seems like the majority are totally ignoring the rules. We’ve got a long way to go but we are definitely winning.
Stay strong,
Arnie.
WE will never forget, Arnie. 🙂
Thank you Ceriain. Still sponsored by Kleenex but we’re getting there. Fighting this for gives much needed focus.
Arnie.
We won’t lose and we won’t allow it.
Annie, thank you. We are building an army of resistance. We are slow to awaken but the slumbering giant is becoming more aware. I hope we can do this peacefully and with the power of the people. I will be happy to see arrests, court cases & prison for those guilty of these horrible crimes.
The only way we can possibly lose is if we allow it. The population are losing trust in the government, the government have got two choices, back down or ramp up. Either way we are winning. If they ramp up & hurt people even more then the fight back will be nasty. If the government backs down they’ll give an inch & we’ll take a foot.
The day of reckoning is coming.
Stay strong.
Arnie.
Arnie, we will win this for you and your business partner and everyone who has been harmed by this evil government. I hope we all get to meet up and HUG/shake hands when this is over, for it may not be a war with guns but it is a war just the same.
Lili, thank you for your message. Yes it is a war against our own people. It’s domestic abuse on a national scale. The public trust the government to do the right thing and the government abuse the public. If it happened in somebody’s house you would expect strong and decisive action to be taken by the authorities.
WE are the only responsible adults left to stand up to this abuse. We will only lose if we let them win.
I look forward to that hug/hand shake. You cannot know how important a little thing like that is to me right now.
Stay strong.
Arnie.
By reading the comments today iv’e learnt a few things that seem to me really good news .It seems many people are making their own propaganda ie leaflets and posters ,thats great lets cover the country . It looks like the right and left on this site are finally going to unite and fight for the good of the cause ,can the conspiracists and the cockups do the same (we will see). Also the greatest thing is the general enthusiasm that we are turning the tide .I think one of the things we are all happy about is lockdown 2 has a different feel to 1 .Many many people are clearly taking no notice this time ,kids are out playing together ,people are visiting each other and the police are not setting up road blocks everywhere .We just have to keep pushing ahead .The tower is falling and all we have to do is stand together keep united and keep pushing till it topples .We are almost there folks just one last fucking push and its over .
Just been watching the BBC’s covid version of the Festival of Remembrance. They just bang on as if no-one could possibly know that this is all a pantomime, and that it does no credit to many of the people taking part. Those who truly ARE worthy of our admiration get somehow submerged in all the virtue signalling.
The BBC used to be good at this sort of thing. Now their lies stand out like sore thumbs.
Please don’t watch the BBC – just turn the politically correct crap off.
Even Test Match Special is rubbish now.
You’re right. It’s the first time I’ve watched anything on the BBC since VJ Day, which was very good. Never again though.
i hate the politically correct stuff so much , i can’t tell you how much
So it begins:
Britons could be told to ‘self-quarantine’ for two weeks in January as the price of spending time with relatives at Christmas, SAGE papers suggest
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8923255/Britons-told-self-quarantine-two-weeks-January.html
Hahaha, not I! They can go and do one.
LOL. These people are mad.
Beyond mad
Every Spy thriller that comes easily to mind seemed to involve a potty scientist taking over the world. There is a reason for that.
Short answer for SAGE: FO.
Not doing ANY of it now. None of my family or friends are taking a blind bit of notice this time round. Or will. Once trust is lost they can’t get it back. They’ve lost the tryst. Fuk ’em.
i know 2 people so far who didn’t do any quarantine , happily went off traveling somewhere too one after international flight too.haven’t found out yet if they are fellow lockdown sceptics [ at heart if not subscribed here ],although sicne no one i know aside from 2 friends and one brother are so there is a good chance aren’t . so discouraging . but at least they didnt obey the quarantine rule! so they aren’t total sheep, maybe there’s hope .
So not doing that will be cause of the “third wave” will it?
Third wave. Can you imagine if they tried to claim a third wave. Cretins
Yes, they’ve already been softening us up for it.
Yep, but if they look closely at my data they will see that my waving hand has reversed and is only registering one digit. Problem solved.
Just tell them to fuck off
… and then tell them to just FUCK OFF!
… or even to get (sage ‘n’ onion) stuffed – they’re a bunch of turkeys.
Sage members clearly have 1) no friends 2) no family and 3) no fucking idea at all.
Nearly right…Ferguson had a fucking idea but it involved him repeatedly criss crossing London at the height of the first lockdown to shag his bit on the side, in direct contravention of the rules he was so keen to see introduced
More Psy Ops. Ignore them, they’ll change the tune later and expect us to be grateful. We’ve seen it all before.
Key workers will be exempt I assume… A lockdown, in other words.
And bankers…
Other wankers are available and will be exempted too.
But not you.
Or me.
‘doorstep coffee hour’, ‘Community champions’
OMG! I’ve never read so much shite in my life!
How are statements like this from SAGE anything to do with science? Do they now not even wait to see the impact of measures? Is data just getting in the way of their models? They have lost all objective perspective of themselves and are a disgrace to genuine scientists.
We will be back in lockdown after Christmas that much is certain after Sunak extended furlough.They are softening us up to take the blame with articles like this
This evening I’ve emailed individually the MPs who voted against on Wednesday to say “Thank you”.
I’ve received two personal replies already, at this time of the evening.
I’d urge anyone who hasn’t done so yet to bang out a quick note to each of them. They held out against enormous pressure and may well be feeling beleaguered – let them know it wasn’t in vain.
Firstly, thank you for doing that, it is enormously important to connect and remember humility in these horrible dark days.
Secondly, it would help me enormously if you can supply their email addresses if you can please?
Cheers,
Arnie.
Here is the list of email addresses for the MPs who voted against the motion.
If you want it in a different format ie just email addresses, please ask
BAKER, Steve <[email protected]
HOLLOBONE, Philip <[email protected]
AFRIYIE, Adam <[email protected]
BONE, Peter <[email protected]
Office of Graham Brady <[email protected]
BRINE, Steve <[email protected]
CHOPE, Christopher <[email protected]
DAVIES, Philip <[email protected]
DJANOGLY, Jonathan <[email protected]
DOYLEPRICE, Jackie <[email protected]
DRAX, Richard <[email protected]
DUNCAN SMITH, Iain <[email protected]
FYSH, Marcus <[email protected]
GREEN, Chris <[email protected]
GRUNDY, James <[email protected]
HARPER, Mark <[email protected]
HENDERSON, Gordon <[email protected]
LOUGHTON, Timothy <[email protected]
MACKINLAY, Craig <[email protected]
[email protected]; MCVEY, Esther <[email protected]
MERRIMAN, Huw <[email protected]
MORRIS, AnneMarie <[email protected]
PENNING, Mike <[email protected]
REDWOOD, John <[email protected]
ROSINDELL, Andrew <[email protected]
SMITH, Henry <[email protected]
SWAYNE, Desmond <[email protected]
SYMS, Robert (2nd Mailbox) <[email protected]
THOMAS, Derek <[email protected]
WALKER, Charles <[email protected]
WHITTAKER, Craig <[email protected]
[email protected]; GIRVAN, Paul <[email protected]
LOCKHART, Carla <[email protected]
PAISLEY, Ian <[email protected]
BARRON, Janet <[email protected]
HUGGINS, Katharine <[email protected]>
You just beat me to it! I can relax now – thanks!
Katharine Huggins is the address for David Jones.
good one
Great stuff! Thank you guys! I’m on the case.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks again.
Arnie.
This covid thing is now at one level just a big fucking joke, isn’t it.
Oh yeah, the great big scary pandemic.
We all know it’s bollocks.
It’s just that not all of us know that we know – yet
Still trying to convince my wife of this fact.
Still trying to convince my husband too. Out of interest do you end up rowing over it or is it simply the elephant in the room?. I’m so angry at him for his closed mind that I struggle to not turn to violence at times!. I really believe that along with all the other fall out due to this plandemic, there will be a lot of relationship break downs where couples are on a different page. I know that people can’t agree on everything, but this is much deeper and important than the new colour scheme for the lounge.
You are exactly where I am trying to convince my husband. Mostly it’s the elephant in the room, but it doesn’t take much to tip me over and then I present a poor case due to my total exasperation that he doesn’t get it. He is beginning to see through the lies now that some of the MSM are reporting it but doesn’t share my total horror at the attack on civil liberties and criminalisation of normal human behaviour. Despair.
This must be extremely hard for you. In some ways harder to live with someone who isnt in agreement than to live alone .
Keep posting here for some support won’t you.
Whilst still a small percentage of the general populous, sceptic numbers are increasing and lockdown II is helping this.
I know we are over 7 months in, but I have not seen or heard of a single person go from being sceptical to being lockdown zealot. Have you? Man people love lockdown, but their numbers are not increasing.
This has got to be good news.
Yes – I hope they extend lockdown.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
Yes, but..
We will be ruined economically by the time the sceptics gain the upper hand and our leaders realise the game is up. We can say we told you so, but how much satisfaction will that give us as we survey the rotting corpse of our country.
It’s ruined anyway mate – nobody’s paying that debt back in real terms.
The reason we are having the pandemic is that the situation was already beyond repair.
You are right.The die is cast.
The best we can hope for now is a bad recession and limited deaths from missed cancer screenings etc.
The worst doesn’t bear thinking about.
We need to keep pushing to wake up the non sceptic, at the same time as we push our elected representatives, and protest as we see fit.
I am saddened that the economy is being flushed down the toilet to allow the globalists take control of all our lives.
People who have worked hard to build SME businesses should not loose the manner they are doing a the moment.
But surely…after such a crime, and against their own people, we will demand reparations be paid. There are precedents, after all…….!
Nobody else in my street saying a word, though I suspect some are.
Just one person messaged regretting that we’d not be going to a Remembrance day parade, and I said that nothing will stop me from paying my respects in person at a war memorial and …. no reply, except some disgusting hoot about the US election.
How can a virus that spreads quicker than flu have a pandemic phase that lasts longer than flu ? Honestly. How ? It’s impossible no ? And even if it was all wavy – those waves become ripples in the end. Not each wave is going to be pandemic levels. It’s so over !
Correct Dave. The direction is all one way. Towards the logic.
Big Brother Is Watching You. In Wales at least. And he is using the result to Follow The really, really sophisticated Science:
When we use phones, go on to Facebook or Google, it is possible to see the sort of trips we make, or whether we spend more time at home.
This can help scientists tell whether the measures are working.
So: way to be free: keep off Facebook, don’t use Google, and leave your smartphone at home.
BB isn’t all that smart really.
Great thing about tech is it can be turned off.
Not an expert but I believe turning off will have little effect if someone is determined to track you. The only foolproof method (per Edward Snowden) is phone in a freezer.
Just leave the friggin’ thing at home.
Or a faraday case
.
I will be there
I can’t be there but I’ll be there in spirit. I hope it all goes well.
Arnie.
Any more details?