Postcard From Nordrhein-Westfalen
I’m publishing another postcard today, this one from Nordrhein-Westfalen in Germany. The author, who has written under a pseudonym, is a professional musician and life has been tough, as you would imagine. But as he explains, he’s been more fortunate that most.
I live in a smallish town in West Germany and am a musician. Needless to say work has been pretty hard to come by but luckily I have been able to continue some of the teaching and we are back to some type of normalcy, face to face without a mask, after having utilised Skype in less than optimal circumstances. I have also benefited from a emergency state loan some of which may have to be paid back, any of the funds not paid back will be subjected to tax as income.
I am one of the lucky ones. I have a few English friends who are not as fortunate. One – an Echo winner of a few years ago – has seen his income dry up almost completely as he does not teach, lives in a different state where his loan is much less generous and has only a few recording opportunities. The rest were cancelled long ago. Another works for an orchestra which tours the world. At the moment they are trying to find ways of possibly giving concerts locally in the near future. Needless to say a full compliment on stage is impossible and the restrictions still being enforced mean the audience would be reduced to a figure of around 25%.
Worth reading in full.
Template Letter to Object to Mandatory Face Coverings in Schools
The pressure group Them For Us, which has been tirelessly campaigning for schools to re-open, has created a template letter for parents who want to object to mandatory face coverings in schools when they re-open in September. I’m reporting it in full below.
Dear [Governor of School, copying Headteacher and relevant Local Authority]
I am writing in relation to the [newsletter] from school dated XX July 2020 (the “Newsletter”). In the Newsletter, you explained amongst other things that:
“[insert relevant rule requiring wearing of masks in school.]”
(the “policy”)
I and my child have strong objections to this policy. I do not consent to [name of child] wearing a face covering in school.
I must also stress that I understand there to be serious legal problems with your policy and that, if implemented, your policy would be potentially subject to legal redress including by way of proceedings in the Administrative Court.
Public Health England does not, based on current evidence, recommend the use of face coverings in schools and this is reflected in the recently issued guidance (which you are required as a matter of law to have regard to) from the Department for Education:
“They are not required in schools as pupils and staff are mixing in consistent groups, and because misuse may inadvertently increase the risk of transmission. There may also be negative effects on communication and thus education.”
(the “Guidance”)
Your policy – the requirement for pupils to wear masks – is contrary to the Guidance, and could lead to the adverse educational outcomes referred to in that Guidance. Mandatory mask wearing is likely to have a disproportionate and damaging effect upon students. In particular, I am concerned about the effect face coverings have on:
* Breathing, especially if the mask is worn for long periods or during sport
* Restriction of interaction with peers compounding the existing mental health damage
* Limitations to learning and educational outcomes
* Increase in anxiety as a result of an alien environment and behaviour
In legal terms, the policy is accordingly at present irrational and disproportionate and therefore unlawful. You have failed to provide cogent and intelligible reasons as to why you consider that the school should depart from the Guidance.
In light of the serious welfare, health and learning, and legal issues at stake, you must reverse this policy immediately, and issue new school guidance to that effect. If you fail to do so, you are required to explain the policy in further detail, in writing, including providing me with a copy of all risk assessments you have undertaken in relation to such measure, and all supporting evidence by reference to contemporaneous internal documents.
I look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible and certainly within seven working days of receipt of this letter.
Yours,
Elusive Report Found
A reader has found the elusive report I blogged about yesterday and which shows more than 200,000 people dying as a result of the lockdown in a reasonable worst case scenario. It’s here. It was published last April, but received no attention until Sir Patrick Vallance mentioned it when testifying before the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee last Thursday. Makes for very interesting reading.
Number of People Testing Positive Dwindles to Almost Nothing
As the Government’s propaganda shifts from focusing on the daily death toll (approaching single digits) to new cases, a reader has looked at the number of people testing positive as a percentage of the total tested (see above). Turns out, the percentage of people testing positive is also rapidly approaching zero.
Bull Stat on the BBC
A reader flagged up a bit of idiocy in BBC News story:
There was an interesting Covid bull stat for you in aside on the BBC News story on govt pay increases today. They suggest that that more than 300 NHS workers have fallen to Covid 19. If we assume it’s 400, and there are 1.4m NHS employees, that is a fatality rate of 0.03% at this point, i.e. really very low given that presumably much of the NHS was at greater risk of exposure than the population as a whole, and fairly reliable given the decent amount of testing for health workers.
Chris Whitty Admits Virus in Retreat Before Lockdown
Chris Whitty appeared before the House of Commons Heath Committee yesterday and admitted that the lockdown may not have been necessary after all. According to the Times
The coronavirus epidemic was probably already in retreat before full lockdown was imposed, the Chief Medical Officer for England has said as he insisted there was no “huge delay” in government action.
Interestingly, he put a different spin on Sir Patrick Vallance’s testimony to the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee last Thursday, which was widely interpreted as Sir Patrick claiming Sage had advised the Government to lock down a week earlier than it did.
Last week Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s Chief Scientific Adviser, said that Sage had advised on March 16 that more draconian measures were needed. Professor Whitty said today that Sir Patrick had not been referring to full legal lockdown but the advice on avoiding needless travel and socialising that Mr Johnson issued that day.
“Quite a lot changed that led to R going below one well before, or to some extent before, March 23”, when full lockdown was imposed, Professor Whitty said.
More Under-25 Year-Olds Died From Influenza in 16 Weeks in 2014/15 Than COVID-19 This Year
There’s a fascinating table on the website of the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication (see above) comparing the data on different causes of death in 2020 up July 3rd with the data for a typical 16-week period in previous years. It shows, among other things, that more under-49 year-olds died of suicide and injury/poisonings in 2018 than Covid in 2020.
Round-Up
Here’s a round-up of all the stories I’ve noticed, or which have been been brought to my attention, in the last 24 hours:
- ‘A second Great Depression? Unemployment crisis hits big cities hard‘ – Depressing news from America about the devastating economic impact of the state lockdowns
- ‘Masks Likely Do Not Inhibit Viral Spread‘ – Forensic analysis by Dr Joseph Mercola
- ‘A New Understanding of Herd Immunity‘ – Good piece in the Atlantic suggesting the Herd Immunity Threshold is less than 20%
- ‘We may already have herd immunity – an interview with Professor Sunetra Gupta‘ – Professors Gupta gives another interview in which she says we may have achieved herd immunity already
- ‘Nine out of ten leading causes of death were below average in June – or were they just wrongly attributed to covid?‘ – Interesting bit of analysis in InProportion2
- ‘Harmful lies spread easily due to lack of UK law‘ – BBC report on the House of Commons Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee report which argues that the spread of “misinformation” about coronavirus, e.g. that it originated in a Chinese biolab, makes the case for state regulation of social media even more urgent
- ‘Repeal the decision to implement compulsory face coverings in English shops‘ – Sing this petition on the UK Government petitions site and get the issue debated in Parliament
- ‘Medics and media stoke fear of virus “second wave”‘ – Another piece by the excellent Will Jones in Conservative Woman
- ‘Covid could become the new common cold?’ – Surprisingly sound piece from by UnHerd‘s Tom Chivers
- ‘Coronavirus deaths drop by almost one third in a week, ONS figures show‘ – Telegraph report on the latest ONS stats. The virus accounted for less than five per cent of all deaths in the week ending July 10th
- ‘SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity in cases of COVID-19 and SARS, and uninfected controls‘ – Important peer-reviewed paper in Nature about the likely immunity to COVID-19 conferred by T cells
- ‘What It’s Like to be Cancelled‘ – Podcast for the Critic featuring Free Speech Union members Mike Mcculloch and Nick Buckley, as well as yours truly
- ‘Why is the Chancellor giving teachers a pay rise for failing to teach our children?‘ – Ross Clark poses a good question in the Telegraph
- ‘A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers‘ – BMJ study shows cloth masks are… drumroll… completely useless. The attempts by the BMJ to caveat this (“this study does not apply to COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2”) are laughable
- ‘Health experts have derailed Britain’s post-Covid recovery and transformed us into faceless paranoid creatures‘ – Excellent stuff from the Sun’s Trevor Kavanagh
Theme Tune Suggestions By Readers
Only one today: “Paranoid” by Black Sabbath.
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened:
A couple of months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.
Note to the Good Folks Below the Line
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Gone Fishin’
Thanks as always to those of you who made a donation recently to pay for the upkeep of this site. If you feel like donating, however small the sum, please click here. I’m on holiday in Italy until Saturday, July 25th and won’t be doing my usual amount of work on the site until I return. If you want to flag up any stories or links I should include in future updates, email me here.
Salem 2.0
I thought I’d give my readers something to chew on while I’m away: Salem 2.0: The Return of the Religious Police to the Public Square. This is a book about cancel culture that I’ve been working on for a while now, but which took a back seat during the coronavirus crisis. Hoping to get back to it as the crisis recedes – although that’s happening more slowly than any of us hoped. It’s a work in progress, so don’t expect too much.
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I have just watched excellent interview by Charlie Kirk with Dr Simone Gold who gives a lengthy but extremely clear exposure re Covid, treatment and risk, and in particular issues around Chloroquine.
Mr Trump last night – ‘50% of virus deaths from 1% of the population’. Of course we all know that, but his comment, along with the ‘I am happy for my son and grandchildren to go back to school’ sat well with his return to calling the virus ‘Wuhan flu’ and the ‘Chinese plague’. He is announcing in the next week or so, research from the US about children’s inability to catch and transmit the virus. Let’s see whether this will convince teaching unions, with their over-riding concern about the education of children!
The problem is that at least half the world assume that whatever Trump says must infallibly be the opposite of the truth.
And he has started spotting a face nappy – which sends an entirely different message altogether.
An update
Five days out now
Day 1 A trip to the newsagent
Day 2 Waiting for kneel (he still hasn’t turned up, staring to get worried, will check the canal again)
Day 3 The police are a mirage
Day 4 A visit to the seaside
Sundowners
Yesterday evening we sat on the patio of the village rugby club. A group of refuseniks gather each evening to take in the sun. Mine is a pint of cider on ice. It’s BYO, as the club has still not reopened yet.
Our group gets larger each day. We all take our litter home with us and leave it as pristine as we found it. In an act of defiance we drink from pint glasses that we bring with us (yes women too, it’d that kind of place)
Sat next to me is my partner of 40 years (Jesus, I’ve started doing it, she’s not my bleeding partner, a partner is someone you play cards with, she’s my wife)
Things been cooking round her for a long time. Neolithic axe heads, an iron age hill fort, roman remains and a Norman castle
On the village square the union jack flies… Read more »
New page is live
Have ordered the exempt badges…spent yesterday having to wear a mask on an empty train, and while visiting a museum..They should be for the paranoid only…had a conversation with a bored transport policemen, who said he didn’t have to wear a mask, but was…Unless medical grade, and put on correctly are pointless..and probably sources of disease..would love to know if there is a surge in TB , Hepatitis etc as a result of these being discarded…
The big countdown is on. Less than 24 hours till lift off.
This time tomorrow the mighty England, once ruler of the seven seas, the nation that invented the modern world, who’s art’s, music, science and literature dominates popular culture on nearly all parts of this blue marble will be subjugated, broken, torn apart and rotten.
And most of the English will be just fucking dandy with that.
The country that stood alone against the evil Bosch, who took Africa from the lions and made America have become cowards sitting back watching their country destroyed by outside forces.
With smart phones in hand and masks on their faces
they take their places
in the faceless society.
The mask of the beast on every street and in every home
the sun has set on the empire, it’s gone
With parliament disbanded now an empty building,
haunted and totally ruined
The good ship Albion has hit the rocks
Boudica’s children will wear masks in shops
will it ever stop? I hear some cry
but with a whimper she dies.
No longer the common man under common law
without the heart to fight for
liberty, at any cost
Englands Paradise lost.
Churchill quote (there’s always a Churchill quote), slightly adapted:
What he [Johnson] has done is to kindle a fire in British hearts, here and all over the world, which will glow long after all traces of the conflagration he has caused in England have been removed. He has lighted a fire which will burn with a steady and consuming flame until the last vestiges of Woke tyranny have been burnt out of Europe, and until the Old World — and the New — can join hands to rebuild the temples of man’s freedom and man’s honour, upon foundations which will not soon or easily be overthrown.
To quote John Lydon, “there no future and Englands Dreaming
‘When there’s no future there cannot be sin’
I think you will be surprised at how many won’t wear a mask and how many refuse to go into shops and how many shops won’t comply. Already on trains many don’t wear them despite the propaganda photo’s the media put out.
I hate to tell you this bro but up here in Scotland almost everyone is wearing them and i suspect the same will happen in England No i don’t suspect i know 100% without a doubt
Re-post on new page just out?
The Dick woman will have blood on her hands when someone ends up dead after a row about face masks.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=liverpool+fans&&view=detail&mid=9A24360873B6D448BF549A24360873B6D448BF54&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dliverpool%2Bfans%26FORM%3DHDRSC3
People with treatable cancers are going to die because hospitals have been laid empty due to Government scaremongering, an NHS nurse has warned.
An NHS nurse called Holly* has said that throughout the lockdown period “hospitals were empty” beyond the ICU units and Covid wards and that people have died as a result. “We’ve been saying for months now that services just aren’t running at anywhere near normal capacity and we’re building up more problems than Covid has caused by a mile.
“We have a lot of deaths in my area but we’re going to have an awful lot more from cancers that are going undiagnosed and strokes that haven’t been treated….those who will die as a result of measures put in place to protect the NHS will include “young healthy people who had treatable cancers and treatable issues”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/23/people-treatable-cancers-will-die-due-government-scaremongering/
As for the residual noise stretching out at the end of this graph, it’s most likely false positives.
Government paper on PCR test accuracy:
When only a small proportion of people being tested have the virus, the operational false positive rate becomes very important.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/895843/S0519_Impact_of_false_positives_and_negatives.pdf
Basically, the virus has gone.
It’s bumping along the ground all right, as you say this could be false positives. I do hear (wish I could remember where, but am reading so much from many different places now) that the vaccine trials are under threat because attempts to infect the
guinea pigstest subjects are failing.It might return over the winter, then we’ll find out how good or otherwise the herd immunity theories are!
Herd immunity cannot be seen to be the reason why a second wave is prevented; we will all be forced into a pointless lockdown as soon as there is the slightest suggestion of a couple of cases in Wuhan and when we emerge Johnson will have his Canute moment….
Unfortunately no future lockdown will be as successful as the one we are apparently emerging from. Many people will be disregarding it, especially as the P45s will be flying around by then.
My co-operation with the last lockdown was sketchy at best. It will be non-existent for any future repeat, assuming the government is stupid enough.
Oh, they’re stupid enough.
Buy sandwich, sit down? NO. Sit down, order sandwich? YES.
Because virus.
But surely the enforced wearing of masks will ensure a second wave of something, with everyone’s immunity compromised?
Funnily enough, I think the opposite will be the case, as I expect a bit of an epidemic of sickness and diarrhoea as people forego washing their hands, as the face nappies make them invincible, and then spend their whole time pulling the sodden wraps off their faces with their filthy hands.
All the selfish, granny killing bastard beach stories began in late April. This graph really puts that into perspective.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3044819/Not-cloud-sky-Millions-head-parks-beaches-enjoy-warm-weather-Britain-continues-course-hottest-April-record.html
Will over the border in Englandistanshire on Saturday, more precisely in Chester. Just to see how weekend shopping is going with or without muzzles, fights, etc.
If anyone is about, I’ll be somewhere along Foregate or Eastgate Street, pad and pencil in one hand for taking notes, and a large bucket of popcorn in the other, in case there are any punchups for entertainment going on.
I might be about… Saturday afternoon?
Late morning to afternoon certainly.
Just wanting to see what’s what at the shops. Will folk roll over? Or not?
By the way, shouldn’t we now be well into the expected spike from ‘Super Saturday’ and when all those common people went to the beach?
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I hope Rod Liddle is feeling very foolish.
Have you got any plans for the weekend? Going to a rave? Or just down the pub to breathe over as many people as you possibly can.
Here’s my big worry. That Super Saturday will be followed, five days later, by Terrible Thursday.
From the Evening Standard:
Super Saturday revellers ‘clearly unable to stick to social distancing rules’ as hundreds of thousands hit the pub amid packed scenes in Soho
But what, in fact, happened? Oh…
Surely this, on its own, should be enough to argue that this whole thing is b*ll*cks.
They’re all speaking through their arses. We now need to completely replace the Establishment. We can start with a properly written Constitution, ensuring no power grabs like this one can ever happen again.
Edit: No power grabs without the express consent of the people in a referendum, with further referenda every six months if necessary. At least we will know where the blame lies then.
They’d just override it. Spain had a constitution guaranteeing political liberty throughout the Franco era.
And as they are trying to do in the US too. But it would be a start.
Very begrudging coverage of Sweden on R4 Today Show this morning. Stressing repeatedly the high death toll compared to its neighbours (but not mentioning excess death figures which are of course lower) but also mentioning the steep decline in deaths and ICU admissions in the last few weeks. The tone could not have been less enthusiastic – you think they would have mentioned the fact that the kids of Sweden have been in school the entire time so not had their education suffer) – and concluded that only time will tell if they were right and everyone else was wrong.
I think we already know who was right and who was wrong. Which is why those countries who got it wrong just can’t drop it. Sweden is a right royal thorn in their side. I’m glad about that, really glad. A little old-fashioned this, but huzzah for Sweden!
A friend tells me that the Co-op in Linton, a large village near Cambridge, has been closed for the last four days, and no date for re-opening set, because one employee tested positive for coronavirus.
My friend, who has swallowed the poison narrative whole, isn’t the least bit angry. Like most of the sheeples, she will put up with anything.
There is no other food shop within five miles. We have another friend there who is ninety-six and could never cope with a bus journey (supposing a bus were available anyway), or with going round a big supermarket. She will be supported by her neighbours, but what about others?
No grief, folks. You will starve, but you won’t get the Bug.
Should have taken the Co OP 2 days to deep clean the store and bring in staff from elsewhere.
Maybe the good sheeples ofLinton actually want to starve to death in order to save lives.
How about Linton Food and Wine supermarket, a stone’s throw from the Linton Co-op?
Here’s the story…
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/fury-linton-co-op-shuts-18638072
Theme Tune suggestion [inspired by Sun article]
“Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of London
and I will certainly show you something that will change your lockdown mind
The Finance Minister of Canada, Bill Morneau, paid back more than $40,000 to WE Charity just hours before he was to testify before MPs.
I think you need a subbie: “Sing this petition on the UK Government petitions site and get the issue debated in Parliament” Sing?
Because singing is now illegal, it’s an act of defiance.
We should gather hundreds of protestors outside Parliament, singing out the names of the petitioners at the top of their lungs.
https://twitter.com/HaraldofW/status/1286042647128416256/photo/1
This is all cause death different age groups adjusted for population week1-26 from 2000 Sweden
2020 not worse than 2015 but the most striking thing is age below 65(working age) death all causes continuing a downward trend.
From The Guardian (where else):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/22/female-leaders-have-been-better-at-tackling-covid-19-says-ecb-chief
No. Men are better leaders, generally speaking.
Doesn’t have the highest deaths per million rate and a female leader?
Belgium?
Yes sorry for omission.
Activists hold up banner saying ‘England get out of Scotland’ at border during protest
Campaigners from Action for Scotland insist the border should be closed to English people, although, they say they are not anti-English.
Activist Sean Clerkin said: “All people must stop travelling from England to Scotland for non essential reasons to protect the people of Scotland from Covid-19.
“New cases of Covid-19 are 5.5 times higher in England than Scotland and Professor Rowland Kao a mathematical biologist at Edinburgh University stated recently that if there is increased travel between England and Scotland it is inevitable that cases of Covid-19 will increase in Scotland.
More at
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/activists-hold-banner-saying-england-get-out-scotland-border-during-protest-2921243
Fuck these people. I’m embarrassed that people think Scottish people are all like this scum. It’s no wonder though what with Sturgeon and her gang being bunch of fucking bigots. The scary thing is they’ve lied so much they actually believe they’re not anti english. You folk think it’s bad in England, you want to try and live in this socialist hell hole. I really believe they won’t be happy till we’re all wearing mandatory kilts and forced fed Porridge.
I’d rather have mandatory kilts than mandatory masks.
I was about to make a flippant comment about the highland clearances.
But actually, a serious point occurs to me – is Covid now an English thing in the mind of Sturge Un’s most fanatical supporters? Has it always been an English thing, or only now that Scotland is so orgasmically close to eliminating it?
(I note that essential travel is fine. Wouldn’t want the overwhelmingly northbound supply chain to be interrupted, would we?)
who knows what the average snp punter thinks, they don’t know themselves
It is an attempt to fuse Covid to English. The truly concerning bit is that some snp supporters will think this is a bright resonable idea. Why not protest around motherwell where tge track and trace outbreak occured or why not protest at Kilmahog to keep the central belt out of the hughlands. There is a lack of condemnation by even a few hours that is read into as encouragement. Last border protest the Justice snp Yousaf claimed the protesters were racists… again another encouraging sign – condeming on one hand but declaring English as a different race on the snp other hand. Ugh.
It’s more upsetting than realised – it is done as a smear the English whether the mathematician know it or not.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.07154
From Corrnell Univ
Interesting hypothesis that there was a milder version spreading of SARS-Cov2 before a more virulent strain later. This could explain some paradoxes that countries with much direct flights to China not that affected and herd immunity reached earlier than expected.
Interesting. If true, it could explain a lot, and it come be game changer. However, it’s at odds with the current global narrative, so even if it’s 100% accurate it will probably be swept under the table.
Yes v interesting. Would accord with the experience of many in the UK who in the Autumn experienced a very very stubborn respiratory disease that took weeks or months to disappear though people could very often continue working through it. That sounds like a Sars style infection.
That was being speculated a month into the ‘crisis’ when California had only about 10% cases/deaths than New York because almost all flights from China and hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists come into Californian airports.
New Yorks covid carriers came later, from Europe.
If anyone asks me why I’m not wearing a mask I will say that it’s pointless and we have a duty to get the government to back down.
Absolutely, because still stating you’re exempt is going along with it and using a loophole they’ve created. We need to be steadfast in our resolution that they are entirely political and should not be shamed or have to prove we don’t have to, when the truth is masks do incredibly little if anything. And also, surely we want it to be spread more widely for more people to be immune, the longer we drag it out the longer all these measures are in place given a vaccine is unlikely in a best case scenario!
Somebody here quoted St Augustine yesterday:
Lex iniusta non est lex.
(An unjust law is not law)
Her majesty’s government does not effect law telling her subjects what they must wear, who they may see, where they may go and how they might interact.
I’ve built my morale back up through the day. I do not consider this government’s laws to be legitimate. I will not follow them.
I have just heard Cressida Dick commissioner of police say that she hopes people will be shamed into wearing masks — Many people have a medical reason for not wearing masks – So our police commissioner wants us to be shamed. How dare she.
What sort of society are we living in. Our Government and it’s ill thought out rules is now causing shaming of innocent people …….
I dread to think what effect her words will have on the kind of people who can’t tell the difference between a pediatrician and a pedophile.
It’s happened before.
DavidC
She’s an incredibly stupid person.
I guarantee that her IQ is below 100.
Did she call for shaming of BLM protestors who broke social distancing rules.
She’s Common Purpose, the only reason she’s got that job
as the man who used to bring Elvis his water and scarves used to say in times like this “Don’t Cry, Daddy
Daddy, please don’t cry
Daddy, you’ve still got me and little Tommy
and together we’ll find a brand new mommy
https://youtu.be/N6W5RB50fXk
Enjoy. It’s fabulous.
We are way, way past the time when we must be asked to endorse this government confiscation of our basic rights in an election. This is a coup.
With Matt Handjob and Cresssida D!ck whipping up the mob by suggesting people shame those not wearing masks into leaving shops anyone care to guess how many days it will be before someone with learning difficulties or mental health issues or otherwise exempt is attacked? Even if it doesn’t get physical we have had plenty of instances of people shamed on social media committing suicide. How much more blood do these clowns want on their hands?
Exactly
Dick should resign for making such a rabble rousing suggestion, given there are literally hundreds of reasons why people can have completely valid exemptions under the law. We know she’s trigger happy.
Indeed. Isn’t incitement a crime?
It’s bloody stupid, this is just going to create a load of have a go heroes. There’s been fights and arguments on the footpath that runs past my house during lockdown because people have supposedly got too close. It’s gonna be kicking off in shops and superstores.
They should be ashamed of their comments – its inciting hate, discrimination as well as sowing seeds of discord and distrust. Both Lieutenant Gruber and this Dick woman should be careful what they wish for, when the shit hits the fan they could be first in the firing line and no-one will ride to their rescue.
How long is it now since Super Saturday? Where is the resulting spike? No spike = no virus = no masks required.
That sounds like observation and logical thought… which is not required thank you!
Oops sorry Lord Handjob of Gates, please spare the children…
And the Bournemouth beach ’emergency’, or Lverpool fans celebrating, or BLM protests, or the ‘illegal raves’, or when we all went… To the parks!!
How people still lap this up is totally beyond me :/
“It’s still out there”
No it isn’t.
“Well, I’d rather have to wear a mask than not be able to leave the house”
Don’t be stupid. Why do you think it’s reasonable that the government should ever have told you to do either of those things?
“I hope you and your family have all kept safe”
Of course they have, as has virtually everybody else in the world, you moron.
Just 3 of the conversations I had to stop myself from having today, because clients and/or colleagues were involved.
Lol
You’ve more control than I. My boss brought it all up again today thinking the fact trump was no backing masks must have got me on side (which is odd as I’ve no love for trump at all) but instead he just set me off on a 10minute lecture unloading a whole host of actual facts on him… I could see it was actually starting to sink in too, that look of self doubt was creeping onto his face (but he’s still gonna mask up)
What can I say? I deal with clients. If I hadn’t learned how to stop myself from telling people they were stupid, I’d have lost my job a couple of decades ago.
But , as Trump is the epitome if Wrongness, aren’t masks now wrong?. Or, if they are right, doesn’t that make Trump right? A nice puzzler for Americans whose brains contain enough neurons to fire occasionally.
A mass triggering of cognitive dissonance in the ‘orange man wrong’ ranks?
The concern is once they can’t beat him with that stick they’re gonna just move onto something else, unfortunately, which means we’ll have another nonsensical restriction coming down the tracks shortly.
As for Trump himself, he’s undoubtedly not on ‘our side’, Trump is on his side and his side only, he cares about number 1 and has done since the day he was born into the multi millionaire elite circles he moves in. That said, the fact he only gives a shit about himself and what he thinks is right sometimes means he is right, and on masks and the threat of this virus he was undoubtedly right, unfortunately that has no succumbed to what that was doing for his chances of winning again in November so he’s simply U-Turned like all the other spineless politicians and is now backing stuff he doesnt believe in at all.
Just posted on Telegraph. SI tomorrow with additional places for masks – cafes and takeaways!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/22/face-masks-become-compulsory-takeaways-government-tightens-law/
Well that could end my trips to the local chippy.
Im expecting to see shops cutting holes to the street and serve through them as ice cream used to be.
My re-opened chippy did just that, works while it’s sunny and warm.
My initial reaction was pretty extreme. And then I realised that I can’t remember the last time I bought a takeaway coffee and my only takeaway food in 4 months has been 3 deliveries. So the idiots may as well just destroy another few percent of the economy.
It can only be deliberate. Pretty sure Boris didn’t mention it at this evenings 1922 committee meeting. Tomorrow they are off on their long-deserved and fully-paid holidays!
It seems that the 1922 committee would have applauded the idea and begged for a new template letter to send to their constituents.
But I hope that they enjoy their holidays. Gawd bless ‘em.
They can just fuck right off frankly
Well colour me unsurprised that it’s been expanded.
Whats the big deal, it’s only hospitals and GPs?
What’s the big deal it’s only hospitals, gp surgeries and all shops?
Whats the big deal it’s only hospitals, gp surgeries, all shops, cafés and takeaways?
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A big fuck you to all the twats who kept telling me its only X stop fussing.
Next it will be outside in public.
Christ – please don’t give them any ideas!!
It’s too late, it’s very much already part of the schedule.
How will that work in Costa then: you go to the counter, order your coffee, then sit down. The bloody place only opened on Saturday! Sounds like it will now be shutting again.
the comments are not complimentary to the government! there’s a lot of unhappy people in this country – shame there isn’t a single unifying force/party/rebellion to counter this madness as i think everyone needs to unite under one banner. But apart from a few individuals there isn’t any real opposition for people to support.
What are masks distracting us from?
We know they have little to no genuine medical reason.
Is it just to lower our ability to have a casual chat? Depress people a bit more?
I honestly don’t know. But I’m pretty sure there are no good intentions behind it.
It’s to soften us all up to have the vaccine
Do you want a list?
Etc …..
It’s not too difficult when normal democratic checks and balances, imperfect as they are, go out the window, and parliament ceases to function (remember – Mr Toad started down that road before all this kicked off)
Brexit isn’t a fuck up and i can’t wait to get them euro fleas off my back.
America is cool and i’d rather be with them than the bloody Germans.
You grasp of economics is looser than the stool of a baby.
Anyone who say’s “Big Pharma” is a total moron with no health issues.
again you’ve no clue about economics.
If it’s inbreds you’re looking for i’d suggest the council estate chavs who, like you, appear to know didlly squat of fuck all and cost us rich people a fortune to keep like animals in a zoo..
What you posted makes less sense than wearing a mask
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