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U.K. Government Has “Abandoned the Science”, says Wales First Minister – as He Sets Course For ‘Alert Level Zero’ Which Keeps Masks and Vaccine Passports

by Will Jones
21 January 2022 5:30 PM

The U.K. Government is more interested in distracting people from its issues than Covid and has “long abandoned any sense of following the science”, First Minister Mark Drakeford has said, as he confirmed further easing of rules in Wales. The BBC has more.

Mr Drakeford told BBC Breakfast: “We’ve always taken a different approach in Wales, one that does things step-by-step in line with the science.

“We’re a Government that doesn’t need to grab headlines to distract attention from the difficulties that we would be in if we were in the same position as the Government in England.”

Wales is currently in a three-week process of removing most of its Covid rules, with fans now allowed to return to sports stadiums and pubs and restaurants allowed to operate outdoors without the rule of six or social distancing.

But even when Wales reaches alert level zero, some measures will remain, such as face masks in shops and hospitality venues, Covid passes for nightclubs and large events and self-isolation rules.

In England, however, all Plan B measures will end on Thursday, including mandatory face masks and Covid passes.

Referring to the No 10 parties scandal, Mr Drakeford added: “I don’t think there’s any doubt at all that the U.K. Government has long abandoned any sense that it is following the science. It is a Government desperately in difficulties of its own making and is forever on the lookout for a headline which will distract people’s attention from the awful mess that it finds itself in.”

Welsh Secretary Simon Hart said: “The First Minister’s comments are an uncalled for and opportunistic insult towards medical advisers and the public.”

Russell George, the Conservative MS for Monmouthshire, asked why, if Mr. Drakeford is “so confident that he’s getting things right in Wales”, he is “running away from a Wales-specific public inquiry”, noting that: “We’ve got the worse Covid death rates of any of the U.K. nations.”

The fact that ‘Alert Level Zero’ in Wales still involves the Plan B measures – vaccine passports and mask mandate – that England is now lifting, plus the Plan A measure of self-isolation that Boris has signalled he will shortly repeal, tells you everything you need to know about Mark Drakeford’s idea of ‘The Science’. Does he ever intend to remove these measures? If so he hasn’t said – and he’ll clearly need to think up a new name for his alert levels when he does.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Mark DrakefordMask MandatesPlan APlan BPlan CThe ScienceVaccine PassportsWales

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago

Mr Drakeford told BBC Breakfast: “We’ve always taken a different approach in Wales, one that does things step-by-step in line with the science.

How about providing the evidence (not fictional modelling) that face nappies and vaxpasses actually reduce cases, then?

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

This is the world we live in now, one in which a senior official can just talk complete and utter shite, that is demonstrably complete and utter shite, claim it’s all fact and the lemmings around him just nod in agreement.

Last edited 3 years ago by stewart
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GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

A public takedown of this nonsense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOM9jWijuH8

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TheEngineer
TheEngineer
3 years ago
Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

Excellent; one might also consider the UN targets for a massive reduction in world population as a driver for government policy. Johnson is surely under the influence, even control, of such organisations. We see the same issue in the Great Global Warming Scam…

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Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
3 years ago
Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

Brilliant. I’m a bit confused by Steve Baker’s continuing use of face-nappies – and it’s also odd that Mr Seely has only just woken up to the full absurdity of “Professor” Ferguson’s dreadful record – but at least he’s finally done so. Heads MUST roll.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Corky Ringspot

And who is going to make sure they do roll?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Absolute and utter madness. It is as if in his mind Wales is some kind of “island” and that people cannot simply drive over the border, completely unmonitored, to go to the pub without a vaccine passport, or walk about without a mask.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

He can’t. There isn’t any. It’s fiction as you say.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

These people have never involved themselves in a risky situation their lives. You can see that from their faces. I have no idea why the Welsh voted for such a coont. If you really believe that the prolongation of this situation will lead to a left wing realignment then you live in illusion. You thought that the suicide during the last two years was bad: just wait for the next six months. Mommy mommy you’re poisoning me with your tit. Shut up and drink it you filthy little tyke.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

“These people have never involved themselves in a risky situation their lives.”

Very few figures in central or local government have. The only recent one I can think of in London is David Davis.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

The best PM we never had.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Indeed. When Cameron was shoed into the leadership I wrote to Mr Davis, asking him to consider challenging the result. He very graciously wrote back and said he believed that Cameron must be given his chance.

Well,we all know how that turned out. He had to have his very own war and cause the deaths of x numbers of souls, had to compete with his hero Bliar.

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Squire Western
Squire Western
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

He is not coont, whatever that may be, he is a cυnt.

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Victory Gin
Victory Gin
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

I have no idea why the Welsh voted for such a coont.

The frustrating thing is that they’ll probably vote for him a again.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

Only in South Wales where they like his handouts.

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

The welsh would vote for a sausage with a hat on if it was from the Labour party

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

”…..never involved themselves in a risky situation…”

Well, he’s not exactly an alpha male, is he?

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago

Drakeford is as big a w*nker as he looks!

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

He looks as if it has been a while since he found it for the last time. 🙂

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Yep; looking at the photo above I do wonder if even his mother could love a face like that. All in the spirit of scientific wonderment you understand!

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

I’m sure he’s quite intelligent – but he hides it well !

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Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
3 years ago

Drakeford has abandoned his brain if he ever had one to start.

Last edited 3 years ago by Jabba the Hut
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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

His brain, having some intelligence, has long since absconded from its slimy host.

Last edited 3 years ago by X - In Search of Space
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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago

Mr Drakeford – the only thing you’re following is the road to Hell.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Only he doesn’t intend to follow it himself – he’s just showing others the way, while he runs in the opposite direction, only stopping at his bank on the way.

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AndyPandy
AndyPandy
3 years ago

There’s hardly any difference in measures between the two countries, what is he on about?

Is no one in Wales going to ask him when, if ever, will the masks go?

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Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
3 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

No because they’re to stupid, well that is according Mr Drakeford.

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

Speaking as someone who grew up in Wales, he’s right

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

It seems that people in Wales think it’s all good, which makes you wonder what perverse psychological need is being fulfilled that Welsh people feel the need to suffer more than the English for no benefit of any kind.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Religious cults work in the same way.

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Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
3 years ago

How about using Covid to distract attention away from how shit the NHS is run in Wales.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Do the Welsh still practice archery?

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

What a twerp! Following “the science”? Give me strength.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

He’s so trendy. “Agile” Mark the “disrupter”.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Don’t you know, it’s all the rage nowadays?

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Mark Drakeford is a two-bit lowlife. It’s in his genes. Shame on Wales for having this cretin lead it.

Mark Drakeford’s son, Jonathon, was sentenced to more than eight and a half years behind bars in 2018 for a brutal rape and assault on a young lady.

Jonathan Drakeford tortured his victim:

“Humiliated his victim by forcing her to stand in a corner gagged with her own underwear.”

Our characters are writ large upon our faces; for those that can instinctively read other people’s countenances, Mark Drakeford’s has his son’s low-intelligence and thuggish character written all over it.

The apple didn’t fall far from the tree in this family.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Remarkably similar to standing a nation in a corner with their faces covered.

Waking people up to this is like waking the dead.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Drakeford! “The Face of Today’s Wales” – there is the tragedy!

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago

I wonder if voters in Wales are experiencing ‘buyer’s remorse’ yet?

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I’m in Wales but didn’t vote this cunt in, They’re dragging the rest of us to hell!

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Ditto

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
3 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

I’m in Wales also in fact probably the most Brainwashed community Caldicot I have come across.I get the rare Nursing shift in the Rhondda which is better.As for Wankford the cunt needs milking!!

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hellsbells
hellsbells
3 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Nor did I. ABL has made me feel quite sick. We know the likelihood is that come the next election, Labour or Plaid will have the majority. I can’t say I fancy any of the others either but my grandmother told me I must use my vote…

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

None of my Welsh relatives voted for him. They all detest him. None of them voted for the Welsh assembly either. It was probably the valleys mostly, they say, because socialism is so well-entrenched there. My surprise was their support for Brexit.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Could someone perhaps tell me what business the head of a devolved administration has regarding the health policy of another (de facto) devolved administration? I think none. If Drakeford thinks the English policy is wrong, then, he’s free to choose a different one for his fiefdom and not try to sabotage it because he fears it might be right and but still wants to do things differently in Wales.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Easily explained

He’s raving

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago

An over-promoted parish councillor in charge of an insignificant region masquerading as a country.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Yep! Devolution – a total disaster for Wales – who could ever have guessed?

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago

what a bell end

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Spirit of the wind
Spirit of the wind
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

You’re being to kind, he’s an evil little nobody.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Succinctly put!

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Spirit of the wind
Spirit of the wind
3 years ago

He’s afraid the removal of the extreme measures in England he pushes in Wales will make him look the complete utter fool he his.
Imagine being Welsh or Scottish then seeing the difference in England.
It’s the same reason the former DDR shot people who tried to jump the wall.
It could end his career, with a bit of luck.
Imagine voting for that sack of manure with a bit of string tied around the middle?
A question many will be asking themselves now.

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John
John
3 years ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60056510 4 day wait in A&E.

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jeepybee
jeepybee
3 years ago

As a Welsh lad, this droopy shit isn’t who I voted for. I’ve written to three MPs, all of them respond with similar copy-and-paste shit, usually patronising, speaking about “following the science”. Shit birds, the lot of them. I’m fairly happy to report that most of the valley towns couldn’t give a toss what the “diverse” capital wants us to do.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

Good. Rebel, become ungovernable, spit in his face.

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

That would be incredibly unhygienic and would likely spread whatever new variant they are dreaming up at the moment

😉

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

They have one…..

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

Don’t accept the cut and paste crap. Write back to them demanding answers from them personally. You voted for them, not a cut and past devolved administration.

Last edited 3 years ago by RedhotScot
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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Had a cut n paste yesterday from my useless MP. I immediately replied thanking him for his time spent pasting an email!

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago

Taffy has forever had a chip about being oppressed by the wicked English. Now that they have their own home-grown dictator, I hope they’re content. I begrudge every penny of my English money that props up a picturesque country, now run by halfwits like this.

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jeepybee
jeepybee
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

I would be offended, but you’re pretty much spot on. We’re a country of culture-chasing, diversity quota chumps. A bit like Londonistan really…

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

I’m an ex pat Jock living in England and resent having to prop up a tyrant in Scotland I would never have voted for.

If the English are paying, they should be voting!

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

Drakeford’s comments are the shortest suicide note in political history.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

….sez you, and hopes I.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

Wishful thinking. 15 years of SNP, and counting.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Surely he is already dead? But then…how can they tell?

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

I think people are too pessimistic in terms of what happens next. Especially if you look at Austria and Germany etc. We need to be more confident the whole discussion is going to change very soon and then they will attempt to hide. They didn’t give us any foxholes or places of respite and we won’t either. We don’t allow our population or our young people to be fucked with. This will be unlike injustices in the past. When all of this gets out I can’t imagine the reaction.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

Liberal leftists hijacked science long ago, what they practice now is akin to voodoo, at best it’s subjective emotive applied science which is a much different beast to “science”.

Science does NOT justify taking away my freedom or bodily autonomy.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Keep digging that rabbit hole

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

I suspect that some people do not understand politics in Wales

Wales is a welfare state. Huge swathes of the population are on benefits especially in the post industrial valleys. Are you going to vote for someone who is going to stop the free beer and takeaways?

The majority of those who are in work are employed by the government in the NHS, councils etc. These heavily unionised workforces vote Labour

Huge numbers are employed in the Third Sector quangos where high paid jobs are doled out to Labour Party members using government money.

The corruption is off the scale

At the last Assembly elections the majority of the electorate did not vote

Labour were elected by 17% of the available electorate

Every covid rule introduced or maintained by Drakeford plays to his supporters

It is in Labours interests to keep Wales as a failed State.

There is literally no hope of any change for the better in Wales

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You present the case for Scotland as well, very well.

15 years of the SNP and not a single major industry attracted there despite cheap land and deepwater ports.

Amazon warehouses and call centres do fairly well though.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Interesting on the turnout for the Welsh assembly. Turnout is low for the Scottish one too. Many in both Wales and Scotland recognise a bunch of local government scum with their noses in the trough and (as has already been pointed out) massive chips on their shoulder. Then again, the same can be said about the London government. It’s on a larger scale, that’s all. Look at the hoohah about the government contract given to “Dominic Cummings’s friends” at the PR firm “Public First”. Apparently it was justified because there was a need for speed.

That’s like saying “Get out of our way, would you? There’s a crisis this evening and we’re in a rush. That’s why we’re taking the government’s gold into private hands. Do you want us to shut down the NHS or what?”

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

And let’s not forget the Welsh government’s plans to pilot universal basic income. Claus will be so pleased.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Spot on summary.
And the rest of Wales suffer.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

In most local elections, all over the UK, the majority do not vote. It’s only in Parliamentary generals when it’s the other way round. In lots of Parish Councils (in England – ‘Community Councils’ are the Welsh equivalent) there are often no competitive elections at all, if there are not enough candidates to cause them. Of course, certain parties manipulate this a bit, by managing the number of candidates for some Council elections.

And look what’s happening in certain parts of the world where they have compulsory voting; not a good idea.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

I don’t mind hiding some Welsh **** in my cellar as long as he proves his mettle.I will provide food and shelter and warmth just make it clear to me that you oppose these bastards forever.

Last edited 3 years ago by Hardliner
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jeepybee
jeepybee
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Hahaha. Thanks for the offer, but this Welsh **** would sooner stove in a few skulls than go hide. I’m sure the Scots will come to your cellar though?

Last edited 3 years ago by Hardliner
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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

Sorry. No.

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jeepybee
jeepybee
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Well, there you have it, Jabby! You get to keep your cellar for other things.

Last edited 3 years ago by jeepybee
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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Drakefuck follows the science that Bill Gates pays for.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago

Drakeford is a Teetotaller I believe. Like all zealots he’s desperate to impose his evangelical beliefs on everyone else.

Make no mistake, much of his zeal is directed at stopping hard working Welshmen enjoying a beer and being as miserable as him.

Sturgeon has the same approach, but only because we Jocks drink to get over the depression of being governed by a lesbian with a chip on her shoulder. (BTW I live in England like any self respecting sweaty).

For all Westminster’s faults, at least Boris clearly enjoys a booze up and doesn’t condemn anyone else for the same.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Correct. He should declare his interests whenever he does things that make the trade go bust.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

Mark Drakeford: “It is a Government desperately in difficulties of its own making and is forever on the lookout for a headline which will distract people’s attention from the awful mess that it finds itself in.”

Well tell us something new, Mark. So you read the newspapers this morning. What a big boy you are.

Such utterly banal “criticism” of the government based on what the media have been told to print – organs such as the Times newspaper – is the kind that comes from “opponents” of the government who are so obedient that the government hardly needs any friends.

Has any newspaper even dared make the point that in ANY political party if you wire yourself up when you meet the party whips and then you publicly release the tape YOU WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY LOSE THE PARTY WHIP?

You would have thought that was an obvious point to make.

Which is NOT to say that it should be assumed that that’s how the audiofile got made. Quite the contrary. There is a very substantial chance it was made by a “third party”.

Here’s a free tip to Keir Starmer: HIT THE GOVERNMENT ON NATIONAL SECURITY. Call Johnson a security risk. If you’ve got any guts, even talk about Priti Patel too.

Which brings us straight back to “Partygate”. Why do we think so many Number 10 meetings were held OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, in the garden?

The official story is STILL that it was because of Covid.

Well that’s an absolute load of b**ocks. If they were “scared of Covid” they wouldn’t have held parties inside, would they?

If the penny isn’t dropping, think of how Matt Hangate fell.

The government can’t even control the security of surveillance tapes made inside its own buildings.

I tell you what. I bet Vladimir Putin can in the Kremlin.

Some of us remember Bill Clinton saying that a room in the White House had been bugged by a foreign power.

There will be more of this in the coming days if the situation in the Ukraine becomes more intense.

Boris Johnson is a risk to national security. A free biscuit for the first senior figure in any political party (even the Tory party!) who has the courage to say this.

Last edited 3 years ago by Star
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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Sorry, but we need to wake up to understand that Xi isn’t bad, and Putin isn’t bad, but that it’s the utterly incompetent WOKE west that’s failing and all Xi and Putin are doing is walking into our world through an open door.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

We in England need to help the bastards out. If you live in Shropshire for example. Because yes a lot of Welshmen are indeed fucktards but a lot aren’t and we need to rescue the good ones. I have met a long list of intelligent Welsh folk and we can’t allow this to happen to them especially when they are on our doorstep.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Yes, welcome here as refugees. No need to swim. Walk across the border of the land once ruled by princes, now lectured by a geography teacher.

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court
court
3 years ago

Bluff called. https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/covid-vaccine-mandate-nhs-staff-paused-government-workers-sacked-1416578

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Ceriain
Ceriain
3 years ago
Reply to  court

Thanks for posting that, c: I’ll send that to ex-colleagues that I know are unjabbed.

One of the annoying things about this story is the impression given by the MSM and other is that this ‘mandatory jab rule’ is only for front facing staff; it’s not true, as I posted the other day:

“This is what an ex-colleague has been told re. the mandatory vaccines for NHS staff by their HR dept:

“On 6 January, the amendments to the Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) Regulations 2014 came into effect; it is now the law that staff, workers, contractors, volunteers, apprentices and students over 18 who have direct or indirect contact with patients must be double vaccinated for COVID-19 as a condition of deployment, from Friday 1 April.

Due to the eight-week gap between doses, to achieve this, staff who have not had their vaccination must have received their first dose of the vaccine by 3 February 2022. You can find that information and answers to any questions you may have here. (link removed by me)

Line managers are now arranging to meet informally with staff who are covered by the regulations but whose vaccination status we don’t know. This meeting will be an opportunity for staff to talk to their managers about any concerns they have and what will happen if unvaccinated staff choose not to get vaccinated; it will also be for managers to help staff access support and information.”

Note where it says “direct or indirect contact with patients”.

The MSM and others have been reporting that this abhorrent rule is to apply only to “frontline” staff; i.e. those with “face to face” contact with patients.

This is not true; it’s all staff!

When my ex-colleague pointed out they work in an admin block not physically connected to the hospital, they were told by their manager:

“But you may have to step into the main hospital block at some time, or you may pass a patient in a corridor here who may have had to come into the office block for some reason. That’s makes you (and all in this office block) an “indirect” contact and, therefore, you must get jabbed!”

What a bunch of scumbags!”

Last edited 3 years ago by Ceriain
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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  court

Bunch or sewer-dwelling chancers.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  court

Pressure on the PM and Health Secretary to halt the mandatory jabs programme has intensified in the past week amid new internal Whitehall documents suggesting two jabs would not be enough to cope with the Omicron variant.

For fuck’s sake! So it’s vital that people are unwillingly coerced into being spiked at least three times with experimental gunk in order to (maybe) reduce the chances of them getting seriously ill with a cold which wouldn’t make them seriously ill anyway, even if they weren’t spiked at all? Oh, and they could still spread the cold anyway, even if multi-spiked.

Have I got that right? It’s getting mroe surreal by the week!

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago

Chairman Dripford wouldn’t be able to tell what is and is not science if his miserable, dull life depended on it.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
3 years ago

Johnson and Jabbit might have said restrictions are ending from the 27th. It would appear, though, that no-one has told my ex-employer – a major central London hospital. My ex-colleague was sent this this morning:

England’s Plan B measures will end from Thursday 27 January, with mandatory face coverings in public places and COVID passports both dropped. Although it will no longer be a legal requirement to wear a mask on public transport in the UK, face coverings will be a condition of travel on Transport for London services.

Please be aware that, even after 27 January, masks still need to be worn in all of our hospital sites and when moving around our offices, and social distancing still applies. We are also still encouraging those who can, to work from home. COVID-19 prevalence remains high in London and across the country.

Johnson and Jabbit need to tell these lazy bastards to get back to work!

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Tell them what “Covid-19” means too.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Tell them what “Covid-19” means too.

Agreed!

I should add re. the “…masks still need to be worn in all of our hospital sites and when moving around our offices, and social distancing still applies” line:

The offices/admin block for this hospital aren’t even attached to the hospital; it’s a totally separate building on the other side of the street. Patients don’t use the building at all.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

NHS middle management now setting the rules. Fuck em. I spent six months in a damn hospital as a surgical patient in the teeth of this ‘crisis’. No vaccinations, no masks, no social distancing, and I didn’t see any evidence of covid, other than being threatened by a nurse to be put on a covid ward because I refused a PCR test. She was left in no doubt that I wouldn’t!

Ignore it all, refuse the jabs, don’t conform, live your life.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

They need to be firmly told what to do with their policies.

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dearieme
dearieme
3 years ago

Who’s more absurd: the mini-Bolshevik in Wales or the tartan fascist in Scotland? Or, come to that, the Spineless Wonder in England?

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  dearieme

Don’t you know, in today’s shiny utopia there are no losers: each of them merely have deferred competence.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
3 years ago

pubs and restaurants allowed to operate outdoors

It’s Fucking January for Christ’s sake!

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Aaaaannnd? (just kidding).

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Smileits1984
Smileits1984
3 years ago

Haha! What a berk

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Star
Star
3 years ago

Idea for any journalist reading this: email 100 central government and devolved government figures who have talked about “following the science”, and ask them to define the word “science”. You’re bound to get enough idiotic responses for an amusing column.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

All of these characters know their fate in six months time hence the expressions on their faces. We as the resistance or opposition have our opinions on them but when popular opinion turns against them there will be no forgiveness or respite.

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wellduh
wellduh
3 years ago

“World’s most over-promoted crap socialist geography supply teacher fails to reach basic levels of comprehension in medical science – shock”

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

I don’t know what I would do if I lived in Wales. Probably I would be hooked on opiates wishing for it to end.This is your fucking future. You sad sacks of shit. We need to snap out of this.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

The guy is desperately trying to destroy Wales.

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GroundhogDayAgain
GroundhogDayAgain
3 years ago

He’s going to look pretty silly soon…

Bob Seely – tearing the modelling, the govt, and the BBC to bits. Part of a longer session shown on BBC Parliament just now.18.01.22 Covid Forecasting and Modelling Westminster Hall Debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOM9jWijuH8

Last edited 3 years ago by GroundhogDayAgain
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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

“soon…..”?

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Squire Western
Squire Western
3 years ago

Drakeford is looking increasingly stupid as his rules are being ignored here. I do not wear a mask and am not refused entry anywhere except Tesco and Waitrose.

The longer he leaves it the more impotent he looks.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

You can’t be refused entry into Tesco and Waitrose if you are exempt. No evidence necessary, it’s explicit on the government website and has been since the beginning of all this.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

There is no such thing as ‘exemption’. That is a PR construct. I have a releveant medical condition, and initially enquired with my GP about a medical exemption. I was told that doctors do not provide such a thing. The underlying law refers to a ‘reasonable excuse’. A ‘reasonable excuse’ could include, for example, psychologial trauma related to mask use.

The website ‘Law of Fiction’ is your friend.

Summary from the site:

Only specific people are allowed to query someone not wearing a mask – police officers, PCSOs, British Transport Police, and individuals specifically enabled by the Secretary of State for Health. Anyone else is possibly commiting one or more civil offenses (disability discrimination certainly, public humiliation, ‘hurt feelings’, etc) punishable by fines of up to £9000 per offense. This applies to both employee and employer.

The site also provides a toolkit laying out the legal position of know-nothings.

Someone took an airline to court over mask use harrassment with a claim for £100,000 and settled for £12,000. Please feel free informing Tesco and Waitrose of the error of their ways.

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LiamOS
LiamOS
3 years ago

What a cunt

Last edited 3 years ago by LiamOS
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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  LiamOS

Shouldn’t that be a capital c?

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The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
3 years ago

No chance of us making stupidity, supercilious self-righteousness, hypocrisy, self-validating pontification, laughable pomposity and delusion in a public office a criminal offence is there?

Ten years inside should be enough deterrent to stop morons like this spouting off shouldn’t it?

Last edited 3 years ago by The Rule of Pricks
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Victory Gin
Victory Gin
3 years ago

It seems that Mark Drakeford is to Wales what Nicolae Ceaușescu was to Romania.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

And Nicola Ceaușescu is to Scotland.

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Victory Gin
Victory Gin
3 years ago

…

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

Heaven’s sake man this individual should be below our purview. We are moving into rocky times and we can do better than to dissect individuals such as this one. We have great opportunities to bring people together.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago

Gawpy git – in looks and actions. What a motley crew of people in positions of power, eh? Liars, thieves, charlatans. God help us.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Six months time and the tables will be turned and I mean really turned. Where will you be then? Looking back to a time when you trusted the mainstream? I tell you honestly all of this is about to break and if you are intelligent then you really need to switch over to the other side. They’re all doing it now. But we are like elephants, we don’t forget. Nonetheless we are merciful, to a degree.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

What other side? I don’t support any of the crap and believe the lies.

Last edited 3 years ago by ellie-em
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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

It isn’t just a few of us sorry sacks of shit in terms of the awakening. A lot of people are feeling really pissed off that they were had. As a nation we really do have to assert ourselves, We are the English and we don’t let any fuckers conquer us whether it by spear or algorithm.

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StoppingtoThink
StoppingtoThink
3 years ago

Follow the science… make up the science… ignore the data and what competent scientists are saying

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Alert Level Zero ! 😂

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes, spectacularly zany.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

So when he decides to abandon face nappies and vaxpasses, does it go to level minus one?

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

That will never happen. Masks are a sign of our subservience and must remain indefinitely.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

He’s abandoning his chin.

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APC
APC
3 years ago

The dickhead wouldn’t know “the Science” if it confronted him directly with a big stick with “the Science” written emblazoned on it. He’s simply following the naive bed-wetting advice of his incompetent health advisers. That’s not science that’s capitulation. Another over—promoted useful idiot who’s out of his depth but drunk on his authority. What a moron. Clearly innumerate because if he looked at the English vs Welsh data he’d be surely struggling to explain why cases/100k in Wales were higher despite his controls. Even Sturgeon, slow on the uptake, is reluctantly realising she ain’t controlling anything. Cut them loose and watch them go bust.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago

Irredeemable fuckwit menace.

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AlfieDolittle
AlfieDolittle
3 years ago

Drakeford did a lot for Amazon during the lockdowns, they became almost the only source of supply for non food items.

Hope Bezos rewards him for his loyalty.

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Emmelda Johnson
Emmelda Johnson
3 years ago

A fool thinks he’s a wise man. Oh dear Mr Drakeford.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Emmelda Johnson

What’s that saying … a fool and his brain are soon parted?

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago

Everytime I’m minded of this awful creature running Wales while the Killer Crankie ruins Scotland, my exacerbation is renewed by how low the UK has fallen.

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jc83
jc83
3 years ago

Oh man how I’d love to see this guy get fired out of a cannon into deep space along with so many other power hungry corrupt fucks!

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No-one important
No-one important
3 years ago

.

Last edited 3 years ago by No-one important
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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

New studies of effectiveness of Ivermectin emerging every day. Peer-reviewed, large PSM study from Brazil finds, regular use of ivermectin as a prophylactic agent was associated with significantly reduced COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, and mortality rates. The study was published in the Cureus Journal of Medical Science. This medicine is proven over and over again to be effective for covid and flu like symptoms. You can get your ivermectin by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com

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martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
3 years ago

Fucking little dictator. I hope someone takes him out!

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JockCovidiot
JockCovidiot
3 years ago
Reply to  martinbritnell83

That is the kind of talk likely to get you arrested in this here new normal… Just sayin likesay…

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Who has the power to get rid of this power crazed Marxist cretin?

Did Blair forget to include it in his disastrous, forced Welsh devolution?

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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caravaggio57
caravaggio57
3 years ago

What a f***ing idiot Drakeford is. He may end up with his head on a non covid spike

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  caravaggio57

We live in hope.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Calling your cultism ‘the science’ doesn’t make it science though this is part of being a Corbynite.

What, though, is Kim Jong-Johnson’s excuse for doing almost as much as this?

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

We have all the evidence we need that Wales will always be in used for political posturing if we don’t abandon devolution.

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wryobserver
wryobserver
3 years ago

What if “The Science” is wrong? Mr Drakeford (and many others) should have learned by now that “The Science” is not immutable. In the 1960s my biochemistry professor told our class that the half life of medical science was about six years – in other words, by then half of what we had learned was wrong. But which half?

The Inquisition followed The Science for decades notwithstanding Galileo and Copernicus. Just because it was there didn’t mean it was right.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

My Biochemistry Prof in the mid 60s told us to never trust anyone who said there was a scientific consensus …..!!

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

The whole notion of a scientific consensus is ridiculous. Over history, science has been progressed by those who went against the consensus. Science is also not something you “follow” or “believe”. They are attributes of a religion.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago

Drakeford is not the only useful idiot round and about. The following missive was sent to schools in Devon by the Director of Public Health – Steven Brown. No prizes for counting up the number of errors, misinformation and complete bollox …

“While we have seen a reduction in the overall number of people reporting a positive test in the past week, numbers are now stabilising, and we are seeing increased rates in younger children.
“Case rates are still high and it is important that people understand that this announcement is not one of ‘freedom day’, but a reverting back to plan A.
“Devon’s uptake of the vaccination is good, with more than 85 per cent of eligible people overall now having had their booster.
“However, take-up of the booster is lower in some younger age groups, and it’s imperative that they and everyone who is eligible for their booster jab, comes forward as soon as they can.
“Omicron is by no means a mild virus, and the symptoms to those who are unvaccinated or who have underlying health concerns can be extremely serious if not life threatening.
“So while the Prime Minister is indicating light towards the end of the tunnel, my advice is that we are not yet out of the woods.
“We must stay vigilant and alert to risk that is still around us.
“Being fully vaccinated, and boosted, gives us best protection from this virus. It’s not too late to start vaccinations, and there are now plenty of opportunities in Devon to get your booster jabs at walk-in and vaccination centres.
“Wearing face coverings is still an effective and sensible precaution to continue in indoor and crowded spaces, especially with people you don’t know.
“Regular lateral flow device testing for people with no symptoms is still the best way to identify those carrying the virus. As is taking a PCR test by people showing symptoms.
“Keeping indoor spaces ventilated is a sensible precaution to reduce risk.
“And staying at home and avoiding others if you have symptoms of the virus or test positive for it, is still the most responsible way to avoid spreading it to others.
“Please be cautious, let’s use our common sense, and continue to follow good basic public health advice.”

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enlighteneduk
enlighteneduk
3 years ago

What happened to the defiant Celtic spirit? I can’t believe the Welsh and Scots are not fighting this with mass disobedience!! That pair of odious morons, Sturgeon and Drakeford are drunk on power.

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TheEngineer
TheEngineer
3 years ago

What “science”; madness or a desire for control worthy of a totalitarian government?

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

In a Toy Blair 3000 votes on a turnout of 50% subjected Wales to control by inept and socially destructive politicians. Some surgeons have operating lists only every two weeks while waiting list sore. Sadly there are those who are willing to sacrifice health and well-being as long as they shown the are not the same as England. This man in November danced at Diwali maskless but demanded masks in church.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago

KNOB!

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago

Unfortunately for us in Wales Drip Drakeford does indeed follow The Science(tm).
The situation would be very different if he followed science – but he wouldn’t know what that is. Atherton is a 3rd rate “Health Official” just copying Whitty and Vallence but adding a bit more doom.
Drakeford is not fit for purpose and proving that, in this matter, he is rather thick.

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago

Drunk on power

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

The man is a complete joke. He’s so boring to listen to. The Welsh have the power to help themselves, ignore the buffoon and take their lives back by ignoring the stupid rules. Job done.

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Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
3 years ago

He may be right about the English government, but really – this guy is a bit of a twat, is he not?

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DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
3 years ago

Will the loss of tourism spending as well as further damage to local hospitality industry finally cause the Welsh to send him packing? Unlikely but, they will have no one to blame but themselves.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

Does anyone admit to voting for the odious Daffy Duckford? How short people’s memories are, that they probably don’t even recall him partying unmuzzled only a few short weeks ago. And also being filmed speaking about duping the people.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

Abandoned the science feels awfy like, abandoned the club. Just sain

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

They may want to add mr Drakeford to the list of 16 in the legal filing to the international criminal court. He is in good company. Please read the Mercola report today for more info on this.

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Graeme Robertson
Graeme Robertson
3 years ago

What exactly is “the science” that he and Starmer constantly refer to? The world’s scientists do not publish a regular unified concensual document about how to interpret a given nations Covid data and how to react to it. In Starker and Drakeford’ case it means doing what is in the agenda off a set of unrepresentative and unelected “advisors”

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Martin Frost
Martin Frost
3 years ago

It is time to challenge not follow “the science”. Drakeford follows the fringe science of wonky modellers, public health officials, behavioural nudgers and medics lobbying on behalf of the NHS. It may not be possible in Scotland but the Government should attempt to revoke his powers to impose more misery on the people of Wales. They should also arrange a Welsh specific enquiry if he refuses to hold one.

Last edited 3 years ago by Martin Frost
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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

Mark Dripford is not following ‘the science’ though, whatever that is. He’s lying through his teeth. There is ZERO evidence for mask wearing by the general public as a virus preventative measure, None, but a huge amount against.

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Mayflower
Mayflower
3 years ago

It’s interesting to note how the roll out of the New World Order’s Covid war has allowed Governments to show their true colours. Heads of the UK’s smaller regions, Drakeford and Sturgeon, have just loved being tinpot dictators. Telling people to stand and sit according to their fake science. Australia has turned back into one giant open air prison camp. Austria and Germany are dusting off the swastica. Trudeau can now be the Castro of Canada and the NWO’s choirboy, Macron, can crush his yellow vest opposition and vent bile towards the UK.

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Wilt
Wilt
3 years ago

I would say the Backward Approach !!

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Anthony Fauci’s ‘science ‘, backed by Bill Gates’ money.

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fredyneptune
fredyneptune
3 years ago

So, the science says to allow unlimited numbers to outdoor events ….just before the start of the Six Nations rugby tournament.

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Newman20
Newman20
3 years ago

Tell the communist worst-dressed individual in Wales to bugger i ffwrdd.

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