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Has Boris Finally Placed His Trust in the Common Sense of the British People Rather than the Cassandras in Lab Coats?

by Toby Young
21 December 2021 5:29 PM

I’ve written a piece for Mail+ praising Boris for deciding not to impose further restrictions at yesterday’s Cabinet meeting. This could be a turning point, I argue.

It was the first time a decision about whether to lock down had been made based on real-world data, as opposed to the gloomy predictions of the Sage modellers.

Last week, the UK Health Security Agency – the successor agency to Public Health England – said the number of new daily Covid infections from the Omicron variant had reached 200,000 a day. These figures just hadn’t shown up yet in the Government’s coronavirus dashboard because of reporting delays.

In fact, that number was an estimate based on Sage modelling which, as usual, turned out to be overly pessimistic. In the past seven days, the number of daily Covid cases by specimen date peaked at 102,297 on December 15th, and yesterday, the number of newly reported cases was 91,743. Meanwhile, the UKHSA has quietly withdrawn the 200,000 figure.

We cannot say for certain that daily cases won’t tick up again over Christmas, which is why Boris Johnson has been careful not to rule out any further restrictions. But the data from Gauteng province in South Africa, the centre of the Omicron outbreak, shows cases falling sharply in the past week. That suggests the new variant burns out quite quickly as it runs out of new people to infect.

On Sunday, this prompted South Africa’s ministerial advisory committee on Covid, which is similar to Sage, to recommend that the quarantining of contacts and all contact tracing be halted with immediate effect.

One of the reasons our Government’s scientific advisers have been so gloomy is because the Sage modelling teams have assumed that Omicron is as deadly as the Delta variant, but the data from other countries, including South Africa, implies it’s less likely to result in severe disease or death.

For instance, new data from Denmark suggest Omicron is 60 per cent less likely to result in hospital admission than infections from previous variants.

That might explain why Covid hospitalisations have not been significantly increasing in the UK, in spite of the rise in case numbers, and why they’re falling in South Africa.

Sir Patrick Vallance and Professor Chris Whitty have warned of 3,000 new hospital admissions a day if further restrictions aren’t introduced – a figure Sajid Javid quoted in yesterday’s Cabinet meeting when arguing for more severe measures. But on Saturday, just 900 people were admitted to hospital with Covid, not much higher than the 865 daily average for the previous seven days.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: Boris has confirmed that no new Covid restrictions will be brought in before Christmas, although he hasn’t ruled out some changes to the rules immediately after Christmas. BBC News has more.

In a video clip released on Tuesday, Mr Johnson said: “What I can say tonight, is that naturally we can’t rule out any further measures after Christmas – and we’re going to keep a constant eye on the data, and we’ll do whatever it takes to protect public health.

But in view of the continuing uncertainty about several things – the severity of Omicron, uncertainty about the hospitalisation rate or the impact of the vaccine rollout or the boosters, we don’t think today that there is enough evidence to justify any tougher measures before Christmas.

We continue to monitor Omicron very closely and if the situation deteriorates we will be ready to take action if needed.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press 2: Philip Thomas, a Professor at Bristol University, writes in the Daily Mail his Covid model has consistently got it right and it’s telling him there’s no need for another lockdown.

Stop Press 3: Andrew Lilico in the Telegraph says we should be able to get through the Omicron outbreak without any further restrictions.

Tags: Chris WhittyMail+Patrick VallanceSAGE

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cloud6
cloud6
3 years ago

Has Boris Finally Placed His Trust in the Common Sense of the British People Rather than the Cassandras in Lab Coats?
The easy answer is NO. Right after Christmas BoJo will be following the science.

Merry Christmas All

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AngusAttitude
AngusAttitude
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

I have a feeling that Sturgeon wouldn’t be effectively locking down again as of boxing day unless she had assurance that England would do similar. Can’t have it being demonstrated that it she didn’t need to destroy yet more businesses and livelihoods.

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dpj
dpj
3 years ago
Reply to  AngusAttitude

I did notice she said ‘we don’t have any data about Omicron’. She would do if she spoke to scientists in South Africa.

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martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
3 years ago
Reply to  dpj

Even after speaking or looking at data from South Africa, Whitty dismissed it being a less severe strain as a myth. He makes it up as he goes along. Just wants to stay relevant and make more money by scaring as many as he can into getting a booster.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  martinbritnell83

Whitty said that Moronic would be worse for us because there are more jabbed than in SA & they got a lovely herd immunity built up because of natural infection. Problem was he couched it in such impenetrable language that it got missed…

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martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
3 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

I’ve heard Gove say that it’s going to rip through the vaccinated. He said it on sky news. I’ve got the video somewhere

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  martinbritnell83

Ooooh! At least he’s admitting what’s going on, the Danish data is showing exactly that.

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Vir Cotto
Vir Cotto
3 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

I was looking at clips from old press conferences (early covid ones) and Witty seemed to be the voice of reason. What happened since then?

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  martinbritnell83

Whitty is doing what he can to promote the interests of his real boss, Bill Gates.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  martinbritnell83

Policy-based evidence-making again

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

That is how the pharmaceutical industry has operated for decades – and something Patrick Vallance will know in great detail as ex Head of R&D GSK – invent a syndrome , create the narrative, ramp up the fear, trial the already invented wonder drug, suppress the trial negatives, accentuate the “positives”, get approval, any way you can, bring to market and bank the cash.

Politicians are either being worked from behind – “Incompetents” – or learning fast – “Diktatmeisters” – surely can’t be both as they would appear to be mutually exclusive…

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AngusAttitude
AngusAttitude
3 years ago
Reply to  dpj

Yep. She could have said they don’t have any data that supports an hysterical response, but then being honest is not policy.

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Bellingcat
Bellingcat
3 years ago
Reply to  AngusAttitude

True, but just imagine what a miserable, puritanical, godforsaken hell-hole Scotland would become if the Schottisch Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterparte gets its way and Sturgeon becomes the Führer of an independent Scotland.
Canceling Hogmanay WTF.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

She may be getting a nasty little shock… Shame! Couldn’t happen to a nicer individual….
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/jeane-freeman-first-minister-scottish-government-john-swinney-ppe-b1976639.html

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

You make me think of the Tracy Ullman sketches.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

I’m not sure the SNP either really want independence or would survive independence, they only stay in power for 2 reasons, proportional representation, no one will vote tory & labour are irrelevant. And yes voters vote SNP! The SNP have never won a majority.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Nicola Ceausescu is living her dream: micromanaging Scotland and blaming it on the English

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The SNP have nothing but Darien schemes

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Bellingcat
Bellingcat
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

I hope when Scotland leaves the UK they’ll repay the Darien bailout money England provided at today’s prices with interest.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

Hasn’t this already happened?

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

The Scots are getting what they voted for.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  AngusAttitude

Yeah.. and England are paying for it too. Cut off the cash and it would be over in Scotland quicker than you can say arse-wipe..

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  George L

It’s clear that the sociopaths in Whitehall want the Sturge to go hammering the Scots until they bleed.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Aye.. you’re probably right there..

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Proveritate
Proveritate
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

They are not Cassandras: Cassandra was cursed always to tell the truth and never be believed.

Whitty et al are the antitheses of Cassandras – these are they who generally tell falsehoods but have seldom been disbelieved.

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago

Lockdown is coming no matter the Fat Controller pretends in front of the cameras.

The rumour is 4th/5th Jan 2022 from people who have accurately called the previous ones.

Doesn’t matter to me as I will not be paying any attention to whatever BS rules come my way. Meh !

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Trouble is, some things can’t be ignored. When the bastards force shops, pubs, cafes, etc to close the impact can’t be avoided.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

That’s the intent. Remove independent businesses.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

It’s all about rent-seeking by land-title, copyright, brand or patent and squashing any threats to that coerced by stealth money.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

And steal their money and assets …..

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

And then they can bild beck bitter.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Will certainly be bitter

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

And then there’s our compliant friends and family who will turn you away.

Personally, I still think there’s time for the bastards to pull the rug from under our feet, just when we’re starting to relax. All it takes is one big staged event/disaster then we’re thrown into chaos.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

And that staged disaster is a banking collapse.. they are just lining up all the ducks in a row at the moment..

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  George L

The financial crash is expected to happen after an event that knocks the power off the grid.

Will it be another fake war with Russia? A staged ‘natural disaster’ supporting their global warming fraud? Something to do with China and France owning our nuclear power?

Whatever it is, Schwab is confident that at some point our power will be cut. And it is Schwab who is managing the transition to the social credit system.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Yeah try and get solar installed at the moment. Bloody impossible – must all you gits getting inline before me!

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  George L

Maybe. I thought we’d get CBDC first.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Apparently Tesco staff have been briefed about a lockdown coming on 27th December. Just a rumour, but a nice lady who knows someone who works there told me this.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

My window cleaner says the same thing and he’s been right so far.

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jwills
jwills
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

My window cleaner has stopped working every Lock down. What a muppet

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
3 years ago

Cassandra is the wrong analogy.

Cassandra was cursed to always be disbelieved, in spite of the truth of her words

This lot are the other way around. They lie constantly and are always believed.

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Niborxof
Niborxof
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Correct

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Well said!

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Absolutely! Well spotted! 🙂

In fact the Cassandras have often been us/the Sceptics, telling people that further lockdowns would happen, vax-passes would happen, vaccines would kill and maim, etc etc, etc, and not being believed!

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Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
3 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Sometimes we need to speak words of faith, hope, and determination. To a certain extent- and no more- you get what you speak out. We don’t want to predict our own defeat. Let us find ways to defeat them that they do not expect to have any power…

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Liberty4UK

How about signing an on-line petition? That always works.

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

That’s a very whitty statement.

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JYC
JYC
3 years ago

New daily infections or positive test results?

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

Yes, they don’t report positive rates which is a better measure and who cares it it’s a bad cold? I had Delta (I assume as pre Omicron) and I’d place that between a cold and flu in severity. OK I’d probably be considered metabolically healthy but not exceptionally.

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TJN
TJN
3 years ago

Brave article Toby. I wonder what it will look like in a few day’s time.

Now Toby obviously knows, or at least knew, Johnson quite well, at least professionally. Odd how, after everything, he still seems to retain some affection for him.

Can’t say I have any myself.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Bojos government has given the green light to enact a genocide and maiming of British children when his government only had to stay within the law and listen to the JCVI. They decided to ignore them and break the law and now theyre jabbing kids on an industrial scale in the schools. He deserves no respect from anyone. Had he stuck his neck out to prevent that, he would have earned respect, but hes done the opposite. Now millions of kids are having their health and futures destroyed by this evil. Unforgiveable, there are no words that can do justice to the gravity of what these lowlifes have done. Its not Bojo orchestrating this, but he could have put his foot down to protect these kids and he didnt do it.

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TJN
TJN
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Very fair comment.

But why doesn’t Toby see it?

I’m genuinely perplexed.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  TJN

He attributes imaginary virtues to Kim Jong-Johnson and there’s no reasoning with those who do that.

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jimfahy
jimfahy
3 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Oxford, old boy.

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Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

I hope he turns around or his sleep is tormented by the guilt of it.

“What will these hands ne’er be clean?” (Lady MacBeth)

The guilt of a bad conscience becomes etched on the face and ingrained in the soul after a time. It has for a previous PM. It will be so for him, unless he repents. No escape.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Toby’s naive optimism is getting positively touching.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

No it’s bloody well not.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

The psych may impose restrictions tomorrow. Or any time.

Micromanaging prophecy with empirical pretensions to positivism is a dog’s breakfast.

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Castorp
Castorp
3 years ago

Test

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Castorp

This is the NHS: Your test came up positive. You are required to isolate for 10 days and share your contacts with us. We promise not to use your data for anything that doesn’t make us money.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

The only reason this criminal regime hasn’t locked us down is because as awareness grows, resistance to the globalist coup is starting to build. Make no mistake, if they can’t lock us down, destroy the economy and impoverish us with covid the hoax, they will find some alternative method. They have the climate scam to fall back on but be prepared for anything, including cyber attacks blamed on Russia or China, energy and food shortages blamed on anyone but themselves or as a last throw of the dice, fake alien landings – and believe me, with the right media/Nudge Unit softening up, the British public will fall for it.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

There is a lot of talk that they are going to try to pull off a fake alien invasion. I know it sounds ridiculous, but this is well documented. Corbett did a brilliant expose of this. People need to be prepared for this, so if they do decide to pull the trigger on this psyop, we can just laugh in their faces and call them out for their ridiculous scam.

How to Fake an Alien Invasion
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zmUCMX9KI9Am/

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

The conspiracist in me would then think you’d stage an obviously fake Alien invasion to discredit it and slow a response to the real thing.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Haven’t we already had the invasion – looking at Whitty, Johnson and pop-eyed Jabber Javid it would seem so.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

“Pull my finger!”

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Joe Imbriano – The Fullerton Informer – has put forward the suggestion they are going to try to pull off this fake alien invasion and then theyre going to say that they have brought a new virus or disease with them and then theyre going to nuke the area or city where they claim this is happening – to “save” humanity. Just saying. Im just giving you people the thoughts of those who really are deep into uncovering governmentBeast crimes. Im not saying this is going to happen, but it has been aired as a potential line they will take. Hopefully Convid has left noone in any doubt as to how sick and depraved these people are, so if you do see this line being taken – or something like it – you will be readyto call it out as yet more trickery and fakery from the agents of evil.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

I wouldn’t dismiss any crazy idea these days. If two years ago someone had said the elite’s puppets would stage a pandemic, place the entire world under house arrest, force every human to undergo experimental medical treatments and murder millions with complete impunity in the process – how many people would have said that person is crazy?

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

That’s plus all the new viruses escaping when the Poles allegedly melt.. I’ve heard Polar Bear crotch is one of them..

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Vir Cotto
Vir Cotto
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Isn’t nuking the city how the Cloverfield movie ended?

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  Vir Cotto

That could be where he got the idea from, I know Joe watches movies to ascertain what their plans are. He says they tell you the truth in the movies and lies in the news. He was recommending Soylent Green recently

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Yes resistance IS growing and the data proves it. This is the latest UKHSA ‘Vaccine’ Surveillance Report. It shows that 15 million people in the UK who are eligible for genetic modification have declined. Thats 10 million more refuseniks that the regime admits to. We are much stronger than we think, and we are getting stronger as more and more people say NO to the medical experiments.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Banking collapse.. not if.. when..

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  George L

Anal Schwab and his buddies have already told us how. It will be a staged “cyber attack” that will bring down the financial system, just in time for them to replace it with whatever abomination they have planned.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  TSull

We are wandering into ‘conspiracy nutter’ territory here… how about concentrating on how to get people to ditch their silly face masks? That would be a start.

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TheApesOfWrath
TheApesOfWrath
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I hope those alien landings aren’t fake. I want them to take me back with them.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Russ Brown has uncovered another gem document proving that Convid is an act of international and state genocide (war) as opposed to a legitimate health response. In this pilot magazine, they record pilot deaths by year and month. In 2019 there was one death, In 2020 there were six deaths. 2021 so far – about a hundred, 30 in July alone. Do the math. Arrest and hang the guilty.

Pilot section at the end. A must watch.

The Depopulation Continues For All Those Who Still Trust Govt, Doctors & TV
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rGLgHsBw8CAY/

Original broadcast from Michael Jaco:

Michael Jaco ~ Airline Pilot Deaths are disclosed in Peer magazine. Staggering Death numbers beyond.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/klZIoSol7yeT/

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

The sheep refuse to read anything but the Telegraph and the Mail – so they will never see it. The rest of us know it all already.

Let us hope that the Courts and a handful of half- decent Judges will show some slight inclination to act – before Johnson gets to them and closes them down.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

I’ve just watched the Michael Jaco analysis and the figures are worse than you state. I haven’t rewatched it but I am sure the figures for July 2021 were 39 and just by glancing at the list and comparing the total length with the July segment I would put the total 2021 deaths so far nearer to 150. My only caveat is that the entries for 2019 and 2020 could have been air crew who hadn’t been included in a previous memorial listing and this would therefore distort any comparison. But shocking figures for 2021 which I very much doubt reflect the usual annual tally.

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Castorp
Castorp
3 years ago

Ah how kind of Boris. He’s now considering the real data, is he?
This narrative is articulate but naive.
The uncertainty sown is deliberate. The intention is to confuse and disorientate the opponent (I.e. the public).
Give a false hope, then remove it. Sounds demoralising, right?
Do not for a second be convinced by these 2mm encroachments or ‘retreats’.
We are, and in fact have been for some time, in open war with psychopathic totalitarians.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago

I can’t believe it’s over that easily. They haven’t got nationwide electronic ID, they need the fear although that is diminishing being replaced by tribalism that may work better for them. If it was over SAGE and the like would be thrown under the bus, replaced by proper scientists. This is just part of the abusive behaviour; “yes it’s all ok now” followed by “you’ve been a bad girl again and Daddy must punish you”.

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Sadly, it’s not over. There will be more variants. How do I know? Because their goal is electronic ID and QR codes to become normalised. At the moment people think they’re a temporary measure. Like income tax was a temporary measure. This show is still only on Act 2.

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Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Yes, but the people will derail the train. Hopefully in Act Three, but if not in Act Five. It has to happen. Let us not think that it cannot and shall not. What is right must prevail, whatever it takes.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Toby, wake up and smell the vaccine! This is year two of this pseudopandemic. You are in denial. Your fat friend will place us under house arrest again.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Sadly Toby is still asleep while many have woken up around him.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

I “hope” he is not that stupid and is just trying to keep Sceptics and other endeavours going.

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Davke
Davke
3 years ago

I wonder if all restrictions, tests and tracing will be gone come spring. The jabs are played out except amongst the true believers.
They know now how easy it is to control 80 percent of the population. They’ll back off for a while before it’s time to move onto to the next level.
Dreaming?

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Davke

Two steps forward, one step back.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago

None of the Covid ‘Rules’, ‘Guidance’ or even the votes in HoC last week & the mandating of jabs for carers are lawful. Anna de Buisseret’s website went live yesterday. A superb resource to learn the law.
Informed Consent Campaign – Know Your Rights

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

She is one of many Great Heroes of our time.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

She surely is. So far, all of her action has come out of her own pocket. She’s asking for donations.
I believe that it’s our lawful duty to support her cause 🙂
Am waiting for pay day…

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

Covid restrictions aren’t just for Christmas, this is a new era in public health dictatorship, this nonsense won’t end with covid!

Genome sequencing & digital health passes, modelling will become part of the new normal if it’s allowed to take root in the NHS, because it’s too profitable to give up.

The Tories have to go, their cronyism will only facilitate this BS.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Why sceptics can’t see this I will never know. Perhaps they aren’t sceptics at all? The only point I will make is infering that if the Tories go everything will be fine, is playing into the globalists hands. We live in a one party state with two, or possibly three, factions of that same party entering office at different times via a revolving door. Getting the Tories out wont solve a thing. We need to get them all out.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I’m sceptical there’s any chance of stopping it happening. The last thing I want is a labour government, the best we can hope for is an impotent coalition unable to make any real change until a new party rises from the ashes of the old ones.

I’m not optimistic.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

I’ll leave UK politics to those in the UK. Here in the USA …No member of Congress has died from COVID in 23 months. As far as I know, no staffer of a senator or representative has died from COVID either. So that’s a minimum of 7,000 other people …. and no deaths in 23 months.

I have also not read of one White House employee – in the Trump administration or Biden administration – who has died from COVID in 23 months. That’s probably another 3,000 government people.

So the odds of anyone working in Washington working in Congress or at the White House dying of COVID – vaccinated or not – is so far about 0 in 10,000 (if not a higher number).

Expressed differently, if this was the Black Plague Part II wouldn’t one expect to see at least ONE confirmed death from COVID among all these people over a time span of almost two years?

What exactly is the “health” risk?

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

They’re not dumb enough to take an experimental gene therapy.

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

I wonder what their vaccination rate is, and whether they’re using certain other treatments and preventatives.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Especially as there was a recent paper showing the horse de-wormer to be an effective cancer treatment. No wonder the bastards live so long and don’t want us anywhere near it!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Good find! Ivermectin could be the gift that keeps on giving, eh.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Merck haven’t got any ivermectin for the Oxford study…. It’s had to be pulled…. Funny that….
Merck want everyone to take their new super duper wonder drug, which is also experimental, mucks up one’s DNA & is less effective than ivermectin or HCQ taken with zinc & azithromycin….
New wonder drug is incredibly effective at filling Merck’s coffers….

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

In the UK we’ve had one died from cancer and one murdered, so you could say cancer and immigration needs looking at more than covid

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

If this was the Black Plague 2 you wouldn’t need to tell people to lock down and they’d be fighting to get the vaccine. The supermarkets would be smashed to pieces and looted.

Last edited 3 years ago by Think Harder
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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Similar among UK MPs and Lords? AFAIK no deaths, two or three MPs may have had a bad time with COVID in 2020. The Lords have an average age of 60-70 so they’ve done well not to succumb.

I don’t know if use of IM is widespread in the UK but I read that it’s widely taken by the US elite, i.e. almost as if they’re copying Joe Rogan. Anyone know more?

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

The inside the beltway insiders were dosing on Hydroxychlorequin and then ivermectin, while the CDC and all the news outlets were trashing these safe, repurposed drugs.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

Talk about desperation to polish the turd that is Johnson!

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Victory Gin
Victory Gin
3 years ago

In the Post Office today – huge queue – the woman in front of me (maskless) and the man in front of her (mask under the chin) were talking about jabs and lockdowns – the man told the woman he had his booster but thats it – no more – had a bad reaction to the second shot (itchy rash all over his body that took weeks to clear – doctor wasn’t interested) but he’s had enough now no more jabs and if Johnson has another lockdown he’s going to ignore it completely – its ridiculous, we can’t carry on like this every winter he said. The woman agreed with him and said that she didn’t have the first jab but had the second so she could go abroad but she won’t be having the booster because her friend had a very bad reaction suffering from severe headaches and was now in hospital with a suspected clot on the brain – she agreed about no more lockdowns because she feared the economy wouldn’t be able to take another shutdown.

What amazed me most about this conversation is that they were quite vocal – their voices were not low and everyone could hear what they said and more amazing than this was that no one disagreed with them in fact many in the queue nodded in agreement with them (including me). Now six months ago this conversation would never ever have taken place at all or if it did it would have been whispered so no one else can hear what they were saying.

I hear a lot more people finally speaking out now and finally asking the questions we were raising months ago. Better late than never I suppose? But it was good to hear people finally waking up and not only questioning the insanity of this situation we find ourselves in but also having the courage to speak out and without fear.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

And very probably Johnson is well aware of this growing disillusionment, and that’s why he’s backed away from the brink over cancelling christmas – he must know that the refusal to comply would be so widespread (openly, not covertly) that it would completely undermine his “leadership”. Quite likely he’s hoping that by leaving it until after christmas people will be grateful that he didn’t do it earlier, and be more likely to comply. It’s one of the usual tactics – get people to tolerate something shit by threatening something even more shit first.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

For sure they will try again.

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

The thing is, these people say it’s their last shot. “No more!” And then the government scares them, and it’s “ok then, just this one.” Over and over again. People aren’t always good predictors of their own behaviour.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Yes but a portion means it each time.

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Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

And the Government is clearly getting frantic and not a little panicky about the people who delay and foot drag, because the more people do that then as time elapses it becomes clearer and clearer that these injections carry many dangers, and the less likely people are to be cajoled into the next round of Russian roulette.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

Good to hear. I think there have been so many bad reactions to the vax plus people are sick of lock downs. I have heard of more bad reactions including some severe in unhealthy or old people than I have deaths from COVID. Only 2 deaths “with” COVID one was not in good shape with co-morbidity and the other was over 90! At the same time reports of A&E’s being overrun with late stage cancers.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

You’d be surprised how many are still deluded. We’ve got a pile of Christmas cards singing the vax praises, condemning the unvaxed, wishing everyone a safe holiday!
Lord, make haste to help us!

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Chris_uk
Chris_uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

Good to hear. Two of my (grown up) kids have also said no more jabs, they will ignore lockdowns and not do any more tests. This is exactly what we need. If enough people say “enough” we can put an end to this insanity.

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TheApesOfWrath
TheApesOfWrath
3 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

She didn’t have the first jab, but had the second? How does that work?

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Chris_uk
Chris_uk
3 years ago

Personally I’m giving Boris a pat on the back tonight. Remember that he has to placate some real thugs who are pushing hard for lockdowns and much, much worse. He played a similar game to deliver Brexit and did a pretty good job imho. I don’t want to see Boris go because there are no better alternatives and plenty worse. The PM is not a dictator, he has to play the game. Boris did good in July and he did good tonight. Give him some credit.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

Damn fool. Johnson is playing the Hard Man/Soft Man game with your mind and the media is assisting in the deception.This man will stop at nothing to appease his bosses, and that includes sending this county, and its people, into the gates of hell.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

An abusive relationship. Coercive control is illegal now…
Unless you’re the PM

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

Today is the 21st. The balanced and proportionate renewed mask mandate was supposed to be reviewed today. No data about anything dangerous has been coming forward, as evidenced by the fact that the usual loudmouths are still crying for precautionary restrictions despite they don’t yet know anything. Hence, the mopped jelly should stick to his guns and abolish the mask mandate and everything else which was pushed through in the race to lockdown which followed the original announcement.

If the unprime nonminister of the UK would do that, I’d give him credit for having been truthful with the public at least once. I don’t expect that to happen.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Wasn’t the associated Statutory Instrument (or whatever it’s called) due to expire yeterday or today?

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

The only point I will grant you is that plenty others could be worse.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Of course he hasn’t – just how naive can you get?

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago

If it is a ‘turning point’……..then we have the British people to thank – especially those in North Shropshire. Johnson is worried that his back-benchers are restless.

It is imperative that we do NOT regulate this winter – or it will happen EVERY winter.

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

I think the turning point was the Fraser Nelson-Graham Medley twitter exchange where Medley of SAGE admitted they never presented the Govt with optimistic scenarios.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

Let’s Go Boris!

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Old Maid
Old Maid
3 years ago

Yeah, but what does Punxatawney Pete say? If we’re going to listen to complete wazzocks giving their opinions …

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Liz F
Liz F
3 years ago

Boris doesn’t need to impose a lockdown over Christmas. His appalling “we’re doomed” broadcast the other Sunday was designed to scare the sh*t out of people so they would impose their own restrictions, as many have done. That’s why he did it. W*nker (sorry, not very erudite but I’ve had more than enough of this bollocks).

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assoc
assoc
3 years ago

Please don’t liken Ferguson & co. to Cassandra – she always spoke the truth, but was cursed never to be believed. They lie and are always believed.

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martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
3 years ago

No…. They’ll be back with more scaremongering on Boxing Day. Especially as Scotland have copied wales and inevitably England will follow. We will never be free from this either until we all say no or a stronger PM comes in and sacks the brothers Grimm!

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assoc
assoc
3 years ago

Incidentally, why aren’t the scientists crying out to jab all the cats – we know they carry this awful disease. Be on the safe side and do the dogs and the birds as well. And maybe then thechedgehogs and the earthworms. If it moves jab it!

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  assoc

And keep jabbing it until it stops moving.

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago

Oh Toby you are so naive – it’s almost touching.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

It’s all fear based mind control. Turning this way, then that, then back again. It’s time to stop whinging about these nutcases and just make plans to turf them out. I’ve had more than enough of the whole of lot of them.

Time for a clear out and start again. They really are not worthy…

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

No need to start again.. government is not needed.. its an expensive folly..

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago
Reply to  George L

I have thought of that as well…

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Comparing the SAGEs to Cassandra of Troy is seriously inaccurate. She was a real soothsayer cursed by the gods such that people would never believe her, including her prediction of the ultimate fall of Troy, despite her visions always turned out to be true.

SAGE, in contrast, has the reverse curse: People always believe them despite their predictions are always wrong.

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1984imminent
1984imminent
3 years ago

It would be great if we could believe the covert strategy was to keep Xmas safe, play for time and hope the peak will have passed by then, and then gleefully state “no point locking down now, the peak has passed; and this proves that cases mean nothing: although they have shot up, deaths and hospitalisations haven’t, the plandemic is over.” If only. If only.

I’m not holding my breath. They know that a lockdown before this Christmas (unlike last year) is political suicide; their hesitation has proved this. Even though they’re trying to memory-hole the protests out of existence, they saw the numbers at the weekend. If they really believed omicron was a danger, I think they would have announced lockdown by now. He could yet u-turn, as he has proved countless times. Resignation by Boris isn’t a cause for celebration – they’ll pick his replacement carefully, and it may well be that his resignation (or ousting) is the contingency plan. People will be so glad he’s gone they won’t notice lockdown, just like we were supposed to rejoice Hancock and Cummings’s departures.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  1984imminent

“If they really believed omicron was a danger” I don’t think they’ve ever believed covid in any form was much of a danger, except possibly at the very beginning, and then not for long.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yet the frauds propagandised that it was a black death.

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George L
George L
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Not even for a second.. its been a fraud from the beginning..

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  George L

Of course it has, but at least some people other than those on this site are beginning to to realise that. If you have time just check out the best rated comments on recent articles on Covid in the DM and DT. They are almost universally scathing as concerns our government’s reaction to Covid. Times have changed!

Last edited 3 years ago by isobar
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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, but Omicron could be the universal ‘vaccination’ at no profit to big Pharma. That’s why they want to stop it’s spread.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

It’s time to go on the offensive. These creeps have had it all their own way these past two years. Well guess what? Significant numbers of the British people are still standing and ready to return the favour.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

They are. But a bovine herd is blocking all progress.

What more can we do?

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Robust non-compliance. Targeted de-selection of Globalist endorsed MP’s. Creation and membership of friendly, common law and natural law-based societies. Becoming as independent from the State as possible. Voting out the big three parties, etc., etc.

Basically, starting again. A Greater Reset.

Last edited 3 years ago by BJs Brain is Missing
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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

This will take time, patience and resolve. I’m in!

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BoJo The Great
BoJo The Great
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

This is all lovely, but all you actually need to do is get someone young, famous and probably been on reality TV to start a #Newyearrevolution
That would take off I reckon.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  BoJo The Great

Maybe, but the Marmite Man aka Nigel Farage is key. Like it or not, only he has the the stature to being this shitshow down via the political route.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

To some degree I think that focusing on new restrictions is a bit irrelevant. The government have got what they wanted, which is backing for ‘Vaccine Passports, this is the end game,

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Sure, but the theatrical spectacle needs to continue, to justify the passports.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Yes, sadly you are right!

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

No, Toby Young, he has done what he thought would be popular at this millisecond.

Stop live the idiot has any beliefs

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BoJo The Great
BoJo The Great
3 years ago

Sorry Boris, in the words of the hospitality sector….it’s too little, too late.
You’ve made your bed in prison already and most of us have our fingers crossed that you, Witless and Vanity are sharing a cell within the next year.
It is no exaggeration to state that you three are amongst the most serious criminals to ever walk the earth.
If you want to be the greatest, like Churchill, you’ve succeeded….you are the greatest evil tyrant….congrats. Merry Christmas.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

Britain has been turned into a giant early 20th century public school run by sadistic prefects who, on the pretence of upholding a set of very loosely defined and arbitrarily interpreted rules, abuse their underlings to extract obedience and submission from them.

Oh thank you Head Boy Johnson for sparing us a beating before Christmas, but don’t worry, we are sufficiently cowed and intimidated and we know that you might whip your cane out after Christmas and administer the beating that we always had coming to us because we didn’t reach the number of boosters which is in your head and which of course you need bother sharing with us.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

Why can’t we have someone with cojones like this as our leader instead of an emasculated fat pig dictator? 

Ron DeSantis: Floridians know there will be no lockdowns

https://youtu.be/3XF5F2XrHHw

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  isobar

He also quotes data from South Africa that indicates Moronic is mild, and points out that most people in the “early treatment” centres they have set up in Florida are fully vaccinated.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, it’s a crying shame that he isn’t this side of the pond. Our politicians are minnows compared to this guy.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Cassandra was blessed with foresight but cursed with the fact that nobody believed her. SAGE isn’t blessed with foresight but nobody believes them.

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

I keep thinking of the irony that they call themselves SAGE.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

The owl from The Herbs should sue. He had class.

“I’m a rather fat feathery owl called sage, I’m not at all happy in fact in a rage, it’s bad enough having ones home all upset, but to make matters worse all my feathers are wet.“

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ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Yup, the most inappropriately named committee in history.

Last edited 3 years ago by ChrisDinBristol
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APC
APC
3 years ago

Wished I’d had looked at Wikipedia before now (see quote below). Whitty advocated support centres in Sierre Leone that people suspected of having ebola could isolate. Ebola kills 1 in 2 (50% mortality)!!!! Very interesting comparison to his proposals to a disease with an IFR of 0.15%. I’ve got to dig out this paper and read more – but look who his co-authors are: Prof Lockdown and Sir Jeremy Farrer (author of Spiked a self-serving and hubristic book about how if we’d only listened to him the world would be saved) who then resigned because from Sage because he wasn’t getting entirely his own way.

“He led the Research and Evidence Division, which worked on health, agriculture, climate change, energy, infrastructure, economic and governance research. During this time, with co-authors Neil Ferguson and Jeremy Farrar, he wrote an article in Nature titled “Infectious disease: Tough choices to reduce Ebola transmission”,[16] explaining the UK government’s response to Ebola in support of the government of Sierra Leone, which he took a leading role in designing, including the proposal to build and support centres where people could self-isolate voluntarily if they suspected that they could have the disease”

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

They test for the flu since they’ve never isolated Covid-19. Which makes me wonder how they can tell there is a delta variant. They never isolated the virus but they use a test to show the damage of a solution does on monkey kidney cells then show the cellular debris as proof of the virus. So, they can use this method to claim an UNENDING! amount of variants. A lot of cancers and “viruses” are probably just different forms of parasites. Since the tests can’t differentiate between cold and flu and covid then doesn’t that mean ivermectin cures both the cold and the flu? Welcome to “they’ve been lying to us our entire lives about everything”. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

No, he hasn’t. More likely he is shitting himself about being brought down by his own MPs.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

About 3 weeks ago I was talking to a friend who’s relatively senior within a voluntary NGO who informed me that they have been requested to get volunteers for mass testing on 4th Jan. Apparently there is concern that school children wont of been tested during the holidays and need to be tested (for a cold) before returning. The cynic in me would say they want to get those positive numbers up so they can “justify” another lockdown.

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Bill Hickling
Bill Hickling
3 years ago

Does anyone know what the percentage of unvaccinated actually is in NHS critical care?

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APC
APC
3 years ago

Here’s an interesting sum. The govt has so far spent £400bn (and counting) on covid measures. Using the NICE Quality Adjusted Life Years (QALY) (the Nice definition can be found here https://www.nice.org.uk/glossary?letter=q) tariff of £30k for the cost benefit of any intervention then the interventions should be shown to have saved 13.3m years of life to break even. Let’s say you take Imperial’s garbage model, Report 9 you’ll recall predicted 500,000 deaths, then net off the official covid death toll of c145,000, that’s 355,000 lives “saved”. If the average age of a covid death is 82.4 (which it is and that’s above average life expectancy in the UK) then each one of those lives saved must be extended by 37.5 years of perfect health, taking each one of those 355,000 people to a ripe off 119! I didn’t need a model to do that btw. 

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Every time I hear the name Whitty,
I think of Billy Hunt’s ditty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCxpmegbnE

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago

No …. he fears the next rebellion will be larger than 100 Tory MPs, and a subsequent Leadership challenge. That’s all.

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rutlandrebel
rutlandrebel
3 years ago

Long before Omicron came on the scene, the government was advertising huge long-term contracts for Covid advertising, development of digital health passes, placing orders for huge numbers of Covid vaccines, even the NHS website was giving advice to businesses on use of its digital pass.

It seems naive to believe that the current postponement of restrictions is anything more than that, it’s all coming in straight after Christmas and probably for months afterwards. Don’t praise Boris Johnson, he’s clearly part of it.

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

I won’t hold my breath.

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PoliceState
PoliceState
3 years ago

https://www.r-ccs.riken.jp/en/fugaku/research/covid-19/msg-en/

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PoliceState
PoliceState
3 years ago

If only the UK had followed Brazil – we’d all be so much better off!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-58976197

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Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
3 years ago

How can I get my world-beating home anti-viral? I wouldn’t want to have to go to hospital, and increase my viral load.

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jimfahy
jimfahy
3 years ago

Toby, you’re a fool if you think Boris made his decision not to add further restrictions by basing it on real world data. There is only one reason for his inaction and that is that he was politically unable to do anything. He was facing a revolt in Cabinet and an even greater revolt in his party. He was champing at the bit to lock us down. You can see it in his demeanour of frustration.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago

SAGE projections (guesswork to you & me) only out by a factor of two?! Good going, the average is ten times out and Ferguson often out by a factor of forty!
I know government would like a magic crystal ball but, sorry to disappoint, they don’t exist.

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ra123456
ra123456
3 years ago

I know you weren’t that good at maths but dude you not do the basics in classics either?

Even my 9yo knows that Cassandra was always right and just people couldn’t hear her warnings, only remembering them when they came true.

I fear you are bringing the horse into the city.

Next time you try to sound educated learn what the analogy means.

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