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by Luke Perry
24 November 2021 11:27 PM

  • “Vaccines were never a route to eliminating Covid entirely” – Jabs are vital in reducing serious illness and death, but repeated infection is the only route to herd immunity, argues Sunetra Gupta in the Telegraph.
  • “Lockdown, schools and children” – “This bottomless catalogue of damage done is nothing short of horrendous, the effects of which will stretch far out into the future of the lives of these people,” writes Jamie Walden in Bournbrook Magazine.
  • “Covid passes: Swansea cinema faces court over law breach” – Swansea Council says it is taking action after Cinema & Co remained open last week, reports BBC News.
  • “The merchants of moral panic” – “The main driver of their actions is always the spirit of defeat, that is, the consciousness of having lost the level of social control that they thought was their perpetual inheritance,” writes Thomas Harrington for the Brownstone Institute.
  • “Nicola Sturgeon defies Devi Sridhar on Covid vaccine passports” – “Nicola Sturgeon has defied her most prominent Covid adviser by refusing to extend vaccine passports to bars and restaurants,” reports the Times.
  • “Is the WHO inventing diseases?” – “But it is far from clear that ‘gaming disorder’ or gaming addiction exists, at least as a well-defined condition separate from any other compulsive behaviour; and there is a hint that the WHO has made the decision under political pressure from China and other countries,” writes Tom Chivers in UnHerd.
  • “Homeopathy and Nazi past deters Germans from Covid vaccines” – “The abuse of civil liberties under the Nazis and communists is one factor behind that reaction. It explains why Germany never imposed the tight lockdowns applied in the U.K.,” writes David Crossland in the Times.
  • “Woman arrested for not wearing mask on flight yells ‘let’s go Brandon’” – Katrina Alspaugh was kicked off of a flight and arrested after refusing to wear a face mask while yelling “let’s go Brandon” as she was taken into custody at a Las Vegas airport on Sunday, reports the Mail.
  • “Israeli experts warn vaccine immunity is on the wane as cases nearly double and R number rises” – “New cases shot up – nearly doubled on Monday, November 22nd. If this trend continues, serious questions about mass vaccination must be immediately raised,” writes Trialsite.
  • “Free Church of Scotland split on support for Covid vaccines” – “A senior member of the Free Church of Scotland has suffered a backlash after it was suggested in the official magazine that getting vaccinated against Covid was a Christ-like act,” reports the Times.
  • “Torch-lit march against Covid health passes” – “Hundreds of people with torches and Swiss flags filed through a town in Switzerland’s Zurich region, decrying the possible introduction of Covid health passes,” reports RT.
  • “Top Australian official: we’re transferring Covid patients to quarantine camps” – “Australian authorities are removing Covid patients and residents in the Northern Territory to a quarantine camp in Howard Springs, after nine cases were identified in the community of Binjari, according to a local official,” reports the Epoch Times.
  • “Macron and the E.U. were too quick to mock Britain’s pandemic strategy and the AstraZeneca vaccine” – Europe faces a winter of hell as a fourth Covid wave collides with the most serious energy supply crisis this century, writes Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in the Telegraph.
  • “Boris Johnson ‘watched Macbeth at theatre without a mask’” – “Boris Johnson has been accused of ignoring Covid guidance after he was seen without a mask at a performance of Macbeth last night delivered to a packed audience in north London,” reports the Times.
  • “Sheffield United star John Fleck collapses on pitch during Tuesday match and rushed to hospital – live feed cut when announcer asks if he’s had Covid jab” – “The live feed was cut after one of the announcers asked, ‘I think everyone wants to know if he’s had the Covid vaccine?’” reports Gateway Pundit.
  • “There’s only one right way to get people vaccinated” – “With protests rising over the prospect of more Covid lockdowns, it is clear European countries face some tough decisions. But using a carrot rather than a stick to get people double jabbed has to be a priority,” writes Paul Nuttall in RT.
  • “How the BBC is crushing the climate debate” – BBC News is equating criticism of the green agenda with conspiracy theories and science denial, says Ben Pile in Spiked.
  • “Confession and conspiracism in the church of social justice” – “All in all, these ideas strike me as deflected Christian eschatology mashed up with fantasy fiction and progressive shibboleths regarding gender and race,” writes Jonathan Kay in Quillette.
  • “How having babies fell out of fashion” – “With all of our institutions now firmly under the iron fist of progressivism it was only a matter of time before social justice mission creep slipped under the doormat and into the home,” writes James Innes-Smith in the Spectator.
  • “Nadia Murad and the heartlessness of PC” – A Toronto school board pulled out of an event with a survivor of ISIS sex slavery over fears of Islamophobia, writes Paddy Hannam in Spiked.
  • “Where did Covid begin?” – Author Lord Matt Ridley speaks to talkRadio about his new book, Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid.

Author Lord Matt Ridley joins Julia to talk about his new book Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19.

He says, after 2 years we still do not know for certain if it was a "laboratory accident", or how a "bat virus" created a pandemic in Wuhan.@JuliaHB1 | @mattwridley pic.twitter.com/6A6aphdI01

— TalkTV (@TalkTV) November 24, 2021

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

Gosh, who could ever have predicted such a thing could happen?

Oh, that’s right, everyone who isn’t a moron or a liar predicted exactly that.

“Mount Sinai Long Beach hospital fired 72 healthcare staff due to vaccine mandate, and then closed down due to staff shortage. “

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Still, if it saves one life.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Indeed. What kind of heartless capitalist brute would put preserving the jobs of evil capitalist nurses ahead of virtue signalling and political ass-covering, after all?

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s a cult so it doesn’t matter if the things they do don’t make sense. Life outside of the cult would be so terrible that the members of it don’t dare question anything for fear of being cast out back into the shallow, meaningless, empty, isolated life full of anxiety they had before COVID.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

In fact it’s an advantage if they don’t make sense.All the better to flush out the uncommitted and the insufficiently intimidated…

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

“When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything” GK Chesterton

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Good old GK, so true. As I say, lots of people in deprived towns in South Wales that were formerly strongly Methodist, now belief in “the aliens” is popular instead.

That’s the point I was making about Atheism, people may or may not define it as a religion depending on how loosely you use the term, but they certainly have their beliefs and unproven assumptions – hence my rejection of treating Atheism as somehow fundamentally different to other belief systems/philosophies.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Very appropriate quote for these times.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

Publisher: “There’s been a total media blackout of this book. I mean it’s the bestselling book in America and you won’t read about it in any newspaper, if you try to advertise on any of the online platforms they send you a notice saying that you can’t advertise it there.”

https://vimeo.com/649627778

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

[Who is it in the US mainstream media – top rated presenter on top rated cable channel – who is yet again dropping the truth bombs on the covid panic? Yes, it’s Tucker Carlson and Fox News again. Bit of a pattern here….]

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The fact that it’s a bestselling book despite a “media blackout” tells you that the people who we still call “the mainstream media” aren’t the mainstream media any more. The mainstream media now are the people who are publicising the book and making it a bestseller.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Better known as the “legacy media” perhaps.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Got a copy waiting on hold to read. And I will comment on it and get out there.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

The REAL Anthony Fauci with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

Joining us today to talk about his new bestselling book, The Real Anthony Fauci, is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. of ChildrensHealthDefense.org.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Slightly o/t
In a news conference posted here by Anti_socialist

Robert F. Kennedy

“Covid has created 500 new billionaires. . .”

He probably meant to say
‘Lockdown has created 500 new billionaires with money that used to be ours’.

This from a man who lives within the magic money tree although perhaps now he is just another Kennedy on the Hit List.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Top of Amazon search results after just
“The real . . .”
Available there in several formal formats including
‘Immediately on Kidle’.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

2021 USA, massively worse than anything the USSR ever got up to. Until it re-establishes democracy and freedom of speech, don’t support it or defend it.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Just bought it on Kindle – will read it soon.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Tucker and Robert discuss the book in detail here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXbuoaXbJSU&t=8s

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Happened to Bhakdi’s book as well. Was number 1 in Germany for weeks.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

Jabs could be causing myocarditis in children (clearly they are), but Pfizer won’t know until the 5 year study is complete. In the meantime, keep jabbing those kids anyway!

“The number of participants in the current clinical development program is too small to detect any potential risks of myocarditis associated with vaccination. Long-term safety of COVID-19 vaccine in participants 5 to <12 years of age will be studied in 5 post-authorization safety studies, including a 5-year follow-up study to evaluate long term sequelae of post-vaccination myocarditis/pericarditis”

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Track this down if you can
Guaranteed to make your day.
(Not a dog lover)

Sorry I can’t do links from Android but this is from wordpress Hugotalks.com

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Common Sense People
Common Sense People
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Thank you, just what I needed 🙂

https://hugotalks.com/2021/11/24/are-dogs-smarter/

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Common Sense People

Thanks for putting g up the link😃

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Are Dog’s Smarter?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Thanks also but the Odysee link provided above is better because it doesn’t cover the dogs faces with the channel indent.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

That’s a bit ungrateful.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Bit touchy this morning? Here’s to make up🍰🍾🙂

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’m not a morning person, LOL

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

“Covid passes: Swansea cinema faces court over law breach” – Swansea Council says it is taking action after Cinema & Co remained open last week, reports BBC News.

When I scanned this I thought it said Cinema & Co were suing the council for ruining their business, which made sense and I encourage. Then I remembered what country I was reading about.

“Vaccines were never a route to eliminating Covid entirely” – Jabs are vital in reducing serious illness and death, but repeated infection is the only route to herd immunity, argues Sunetra Gupta in the Telegraph.

This was known before the first injection was delivered. It was established science that the mRNA/VV cell therapies would be leaky. Right from the start. all governments knew they would not stop transmission or create herd immunity. All mandates are crimes against humanity and I believe that slowly, we’ll start seeing the courts bending this way over time.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

This is at least the second time the phrase ‘repeated infection’ to gain herd immunity has been seen at DS in two days.
Yesterday it was a mainstream medic explaining how we would have to learn to live with Covid.
Clearly getting us used to the idea or ‘normalising’ it in today’s parlance.

As you say all governments have known this from the start but also anyone with half a brain to rub together. The black death was never ‘eradicated’ (still hasn’t), it just faded away as more and more people became immune to it.
Whether that immunity has been retained remains to be seen but that is the reason few cruise liners will take you to Madagascar.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

“How having babies fell out of fashion” – “With all of our institutions now firmly under the iron fist of progressivism it was only a matter of time before social justice mission creep slipped under the doormat and into the home,” writes James Innes-Smith in the Spectator.

A central part of their plan going back decades. None of the damage inflicted on Britain demographically or financially could be done if British families had above replace rate offspring over the past 30 years.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Same applies to CCP China where although they abandoned the One Child policy have failed to change the behaviour of young families who have got to like only having one extra mouth to feed; probably hoping that improved education for their child would keep them comfy in their old age.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The irony is that Taiwan doesn’t have a higher birth rate than China, and yet without having used the CCP’s coercion. No wonder China wants to take over Taiwan.

Horrendous problems in China with demographics and the gaping gender gap. I can see them having serious problems in the coming years (though to be fair, we all could at the going rate).

I understand that Taiwan regarded themselves as the real Chinese government, and I don’t know if their civil war ever officially ended. Apparently attitudes are shifting in the younger generation.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Not sure about Taiwans demographics but I’ve posted recently a graphic showing Chinas in 20 years time as currently still working one child parents move into retirement being replaced in the workplace by only half their number to support them.
Europe’s leaders hope to get around this by mass immigration but that hardly seems an option for China who would rather retain its overwhelming Han majority.

Much vaunted Communist China has very poor pension arrangements for non Party Members which probably explains their rush to automated Social Credit (ie Social Control) and workplace robots.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I understand China is already importing wives from places like Korea and the Philippines. I wonder how that will end…

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Korean and Philapina women divorced and deported after they outlive child bearing usefulness?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
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Error

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Not looking good for Taiwan either.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I understand China’s working age population is already declining. I don’t see how that can end well for them, however good they are at Go.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

And all that implies. The low rate of childbearing is just symptomatic.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

I personally am fine with a country NOT increasing it’s population density.

Density is strongly linked to the %age of the economy extracted as harmful economic-rent.

People merely have to save more if they plan to retire longer.

Current interest rate manipulations are not helping this.

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago

“Israeli experts warn vaccine immunity is on the wane as cases nearly double and R number rises” – “New cases shot up – nearly doubled on Monday, November 22nd. If this trend continues, serious questions about mass vaccination must be immediately raised,” writes Trialsite.

Some of us have been asking those questions for months. Welcome to the party.

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OliveTrees
OliveTrees
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Fifth booster should fix it. If not, sixth will do the job. There’s always the seventh to fall back on, if not.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Fall back on? Aha! Does it work better if administered via the buttocks?

Should be ok for male Jews. They are accustomed to medical interference with their nether regions,

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

That’s the Israel that Annie reported a month or more ago as stocking up for fourth jabs ‘hoping that the third lasted longer than the first two’.

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chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Is it fair then to speculate/infer that the timespan for ‘efficacy’ wanes with each successive jab? Then what, one booster a month?

In the meantime, in the Palestinian Territories cases continued to be low with low full vaccination rate of about 28%.

Clown world.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Sonia Elijah -Delingpod

James catches up with Sonia Elijah, who is an investigative journalist for Trial Site News and TCW (as well as her own substack). They discuss the incredibly poor state of journalism and medical coverage (propaganda)

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Exactly! What a stupid sentence, I agree.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Roundup, Thomas Harrington ‘Moral Panic’.

Apart from aping progressive linguistic styles and terminology the author gets it all wrong about mods & rockers.
Far from their weekly coverage of supposed mass gang brawls in Brighton and Margate(!?) creating ‘moral panic’ in the breakfast rooms of middle England such coverage was usually the only exiting thing worth reading in the 1960’s Sunday Redtops otherwise devoted to ‘beer’n’sandwhiches’ Trades Union leaders, Mary Whitehouse and other ladies in long drab coats.

Even as a preteen it was obvious that the ‘fights’ were staged with pictures showing a couple of skinny Rockers sharing a busted rusty bicycle chain while being confronted by pasty mods in cheap office suits.

It later emerged that these youths were at the bottom of their pecking orders paid, 5 or 10 quid by lazy reporters looking for a story.
Those at the top of the pile were far more concerned with not spoiling their expensive kit to get involved in fights with people they didn’t know.

Neither side beat up old ladies either.

Conclusion: the press have decades of form creating panics, moral or otherwise, out of nothing

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And how right Mary Whitehouse has been proved by history (even if she was wrong about tits liking melons…).

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Baron_Jackfield
Baron_Jackfield
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I believe it was “coconuts”.. 🙂

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“Live feed cut when announcer asks if John Fleck has had ‘vaccine’ ”

Do you think they’ll tell us then?

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Horse
Horse
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I expect the official cause will be a block of frozen urine falling on his head from a passing passenger aircraft.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Horse

I seem to remember a story about a migrant from Africa hiding in the wheel well of an aeroplane and falling out somewhere over London, frozen to death…

(P.s. according to the spell checker, aeroplane is a typo, despite what Douglas Bader said!)

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Puddleglum
Puddleglum
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

There is something very satisfying about the ae combination – virtue signaling at its best.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

“I think everyone wants to know if he’s had the vaccine”
is perhaps a remarkable indicator of how much vaccine cynicism there is out there.

The producer might have preferred him to say
“We’ve had a couple of calls from alt-right anti-vax extremists demanding to know if John has had the vaccine.
Well I’m not going to waste my time or insult viewers intelligence by responding to nonsense like that”

Off camera
“Did anyone get their number? Perhaps the police could use it.”

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“BBC crushing climate debate”.

The licence fee can’t be scrapped soon enough. Impartial public service broadcaster? Really?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It’ll never happen, the BBC is & always has been the establishment’s greatest propaganda asset.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Isn’t that how the government are controlling the BBC, by using a threat of decriminalising non-payment of the licence fee (withdrawn for now)?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I think government tentacles go far deeper than that & don’t be fooled in thinking that the BBC’s sudden march towards wokedom, is anything other than the direction the establishment want it to go. EVERYTHING that’s happening has happened under the Tories watch!

Like I said last night we are competing for survival, they are attacking the family from multiple angles, & we are losing.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The Labour Party were just as bad, if they didn’t initiate cancelling preferential tax allowances for married couples with children they supported it all the way.

To be followed by a social services system that made it financially and domestically beneficial for a young mun to get rid of the fathers of all her children with the negative social consequences that predictably ensued, still denied by the left and ignored by the tories.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The BBC, like The Times, sucks up to the government of the day, especially if they could do so coming from a left/liberal point of view. That has not been a limiting factor with recent ‘C’onservative governments.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

and green ism is the establishment’s new enhanced rent-seeking (all those low power density wind and sun totems take power subsidies and transfer it to the land title owner, offshore goes to the crown estate, so no wonder the royal are “green”).

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It’s a joint decision to be made by each and every householder that still pays it.

I made mine 15 years ago.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

WIRRITJIN – OriginalSovereignTribalFederation

Wirritjin is an Ancient Prophecy that a white man would come to these lands and there would be great suffering for a period of time. One day the Black and White would stand together to create a positive direction together. That time has come and United, we are the Wirritjin. We invite all to join us and unite everyone to create a healthy and prosperous future for all humanity.

A very moving video, is it counter propaganda? You decide.

I stick to my profound belief, the system is now too big to survive, I think sadly we are about to enter a period of civil unrest worldwide & this will only generate greater state abuse by the establishment, there is only one way to avoid this, the demise of liberal ideology. Say NO to the destruction of traditional conservative family values, your children should come first.

Start by throwing away your smartphone!

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Since 2008, I have feared that we might end up with some sort of repeat of the 1930’s. Maybe we are srarting to see this?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I think so. It’s already happening, In this video there’s a clip of police being hammered by an angry mob (Don’t know the location)

A Genocide is Happening in Northern Australia @18.50 minutes

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

What a mad tyrant that Gunner is. I wonder how much these people are getting paid for this sort of thing.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Family, attacked by identity politics. Community, attacked by corporate fascism. Country! Attacked by MIC & immigration. All under attack from the globalist leftist trojan horse, its genocide. What were you saying about Darwin’s nephew, he must have been a neoliberal, LOL

International communism started long ago, the UN, IMF, WEF, WWF, World Bank, NATO blah blah blah………… All anti family.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Internationsl Communism officially existed before WW1, usually meeting on the Continent before flitting over to London if the police got too hot.
The UN was originally the official designation of all the Allies that had declared war on either/or Germany or Japan.
Of course it soon morphed into a self perpetuating pressure group seeking to end Western colonial Empires (which going to happen anyway).

(You will probably mock the following), This made it a lot easier for the IMF and World Bank to take over and control those newly independent but fragile nations than had they remained under the guardianship of their former Colonial rulers; it also made it easy for multinationals to rampantly exploit their limited natural resources.

For historic precedent see what happened to First Nations Americans living in and beyond the Appalachians as soon as the Britsh left.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I responded to your other Aboriginal video
Northern Territory Tribes Uniting
post before seeing this one
let’s see if there are any surprises.

Is that the last part of the former British Empire that is still officially named a ‘Territory’?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Roundup.RT. Touch bearing protesters against vaccine Passports carry National Flag through Zurich.

Must be far right facists with those burning torches and National Flags.

Similar to a recent demo in Copenhagen as reported in the Graun but the comments are of interest, still up days later.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Oh what an irony, liberals now claiming liberty is far right! Liberals have fallen so far down the ugly tree, not even plastic surgery can fix it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Roundup. Daily Mail: “Woman arrested for not wearing mask on plane”.

Nice hatchet job by the Mail.
‘she tried to punch another passenger’.( Was that before or after that passenger reported her for not wearing a mask?)
‘She was ejected from the plane while in a wheelchair’ (don’t say it out loud but they always get in the bloody way).
‘She was arrested for breaking Covid laws’ (No, she was arrested for breaking airport rules).

She shouted ‘let’s go Brandon . . .’
(Might have known it, damn Trumper)

“Let’s go Brandon and other obscenities”
(‘Let’s go Brandon’ is an obscenity now?)

Unusually the Mail chose to moderate comments on this one which is why there are only three.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Thank goodness for Toby Young!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Agreed but in what context in this case?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

AUSTRALIA: NORTHERN TERRITORY TRIBES ARE UNITING!
This will cause a real mental meltdown for liberal lefties backing medical tyranny.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Hope so.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Good for them. 👍

In an attempt not to seem unappreciative I waded through the first 12 minutes of dubious legalese before finally getting to the guys speaking from the heart, especially Uncle Jumo, which was great.

Whoever produced this should remember that these gentlemen are not appearing before a Court of Law or government committee (though doubtless they have been obliged to do so many times in the past) but are trying to appeal to the Australian general population.

If asked I would advise not to sign off with a request for All Australians to unite to overthrow this unworthy government and create a new one led by the “Lawful Sovereigns”.
By which he means the 3.3% of Australians who claim some Aboriginal decent.
Do you Blackfellas* want the Whitefellas* help to bugger up the government over Covid or not?

* both words commonly used throughout Australia especially by Aboriginal communities.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

OMG there is no pleasing you! (sarc)

Yeah, nah, sadly everyone has been watching too many YouTube channels about Magna Carta & sovereign freeman bollix. Truth is we are all slaves (of a slave master we mostly created ourselves, the “system“) & slaves don’t get choices, if you want freedom you have to take risks.

But bear in mind the majority of people don’t want freedom, least they don’t want other people to have freedom! Society has traded freedom for safety. Hence, my petty hatred of hi-viz clothing, LOL.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I was truly disappointed 😕 with the bulk of that presentation which would have been much better had Uncle Jumo and his pals just spoken to camera in an appeal for support from Whitefellas as it did towards the end.

As you suggest the younger guy seems to think he’s all lawyerd up but he isn’t and it shows and its offputting but I struggled through it nevertheless.

Linking their terrible treatment under legally doubtful lockdown legislation to the extreme end of their desire for independence simply will not help their immediate cause.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

They’re not ‘liberal lefties’. They’re woke authoritarians. F*** knows how they got that way.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago

Roundup: The Times, Nazi past deters Germans from covid vaccines.
Can’t read because of paywall.

Despite the evil intent of their Governments both Germans and Austrians are among the most resistant in Europe because of their shared Nazi past. Dunno if the report notes that coupling.
Similar to Romania and Bulgaria who both suffered under State Repression but from the other direction.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

Let it RIP!

England would only suffer 35,000 Covid hospital admissions if EVERYONE caught virus right now because of previous immunity and jabs, study suggests – compared to 280,000 in Germany

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Aus: Senator Gerard Rennick says like it is regarding “vaccination”
Aussie MP speaking out against vaccine mandates & vaccine damage. He’s an Antivaxxer! Sadly, he makes some excuses for the cowardly shills that did the stabbing.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

12 minutes well spent.
Being a Senator he will have influence above and beyond State Premiers in many areas.
He nearly fluffed it at the start by saying
“Everyone deserves a good wealth health outcome” but quickly corrects himself.

His attack on demands that victims damaged by the 1st vaccine are still legally obliged to take the 2nd is especially well made.

It reminded me of a job interview I was conducting many years ago.As was usual back then I asked why he had left his previous job and why had he spent so long inactive?

Turns out he had been a junior officer on the night of the Zeebruger ferry disaster, manning the desk by an entry point.
After ship had partly turned over he found himself clinging to his desk which was 90° to perpendicular, staring at the churning water many feet below.
After nearly an hour he fell but survived.

Some months later he approached his Corporate employer (yet to admit liability to anybody) for a replacement position.
They offered him the same job on a sister ferry, sitting at the ‘same’ desk that he had desperately clung onto for an hour rightfully in fear of his life.

He didn’t take the position and later concluded that his Very Well Known employer just wanted another embarrassment out of the way.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Not being snarky but are we surprised?

That would have been the best option at the start of the 2020 Autumn University term, long before vaccines were available to all but the most vulnerable University and College students.
Local Live Online would sometimes track down the most tearful bedwettery student to be found and quote
“I’m so terrified even walking on the road* to class, everyone (fellow students) is like totally ignoring Social Distancing they don’t even wear a mask can you imagine how dangerous it will be for me even to be in the lecture room !”

*’on the road’ to conspicuously avoid the crowded pavements.

If asked I would have advised they go home and continue remote learning until the world has been made all soft and cuddly again.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

less than that as EVERYBODY probably has already caught a whiff of the wuflu.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago

Well I wish we had the detailed data, here in the Netherlands, that they do in the UK. That crappy, fake item from the Guardian was debunked using government data, but the Covidians are having a field day here passing this shit around. Most people in ICU are unvaxxed. It might even be true, I don’t want to get too caught up in confirmation bias, but here’s the data the government will go off of tomorrow when they’ll announce even tighter restrictions: https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/4-in-5-covid-19-patients-in-icu-are-not-vaccinated?fbclid=IwAR3Patc-EtEPDSQTtFgLBTyaYV9JADVZCrCwp2V921jW

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Phil Shannon
Phil Shannon
3 years ago

ITEM: “Top Australian official: we’re transferring Covid patients to quarantine camps” – “Australian authorities are removing Covid patients and residents in the Northern Territory to a quarantine camp in Howard Springs, after nine cases were identified in the community of Binjari, according to a local official,” reports the Epoch Times.

In Australia, there is a frantic race to copy the initiatives of the worst of the Covid loons. After Mad Dog Gunner decided that forced relocation by the military of unvaxxed Covid ‘close contacts’ in Aboriginal communities to quarantine in detention camps in the Northern Territory was just ticketty-boo, the more ‘moderate’ health authorities in my little home state of South Australia have decided to follow suit.
 
Whilst we all saw Gunner’s exercise as a human rights abomination, others saw it as an aspiration -thus we have our South Australian government issuing emergency tenders to organise quarantine “camps” for Aboriginal people in regional centres like Port Augusta, Port Lincoln, Renmark and Mount Gambier.

“Some Aboriginal communities’ socio-cultural practices may place them at higher risk of transmission because they involve mobilisation and participation in communal cultural activities”, said our health ‘experts’, and we can’t have such levels of normal human behaviour because there’s a war on against the virus and it’s Old Normal breeding grounds, don’t you know.

Meanwhile, the mania for Little Lockdowns continues. The Aquarius Backpackers in the Northern Rivers tourist mecca of New South Wales has just entered a snap, seven-day lockdown after one ‘positive case’ was detected. Eighty-five backpackers are now literally under house arrest, unable to leave the hostel, with police guarding the premises around the clock. “All the residents are fully vaccinated”, said a NSW Health spokesthing (they have to be double-jabbed otherwise they could not get a visa to get into Australia), who went on to blame the incipient ‘outbreak’ on vaxxed guests mingling with the great Unvaxxed in the broader community.
 
Am I missing something here? If the “vaccine” is so effective at preventing infection and transmission why can’t the vaxxed backpackers safely mix with the unvaccinated locals, and why are the unvaxxed locals such a danger to the vaxxed!  It’s almost as if logic doesn’t come into it, or the vaxx is a complete lemon or something ….

Phil
Adelaide

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Is the single ‘case’ (here’s a guess; not ill, hospitalised or dead yet?) in solitary confinement or have all 85/6 been locked in together?
This would potentially create an EXPLOSION in cases that would be used to implement yet more sanctions or, at the very least, allow the State Government to crow about ‘saving’ these people if none of them die; which is the most likely outcome for healthy young backpackers recently exposed to oodles of summer sunshine?

phil, could you comment on research which leads me to believe that some Australians routinely refer to each other as Blackfellas or Whitefellas without offence being taken by either side?
Seems Aboriginal Australians are more likely to use those words than Whitefellas.

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Phil Shannon
Phil Shannon
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Seems like the positive ‘case’ was a young Australian-based female employee at the hostel, so presumably she would be quarantining at home under Public Health Orders. No media reports even hint at this ‘case’ being in any way ill at all and therefore symptomatic (if she was, there would be an almighty hue and cry about the risk of viral apocalypse). Nevertheless, all the guests and remaining staff are in lockup at the hostel and are being tested daily under the watchful eye of police.

All involved – staff and guests – are young, fit, healthy people with mighty fine immune systems, topped-up by Australia’s spring sunshine, who face approximately zero to the power of minus ten of an actual symptomatic infection. But why let reality get in the way of a good Fear and Panic story.

The local health authorities say that they “will also arrange vaccination for any eligible contacts”. I don’t think this means going down the Austria route. That’s for later, perhaps.

And, yes ‘blackfella’ and ‘whitefella’ are usually used in a good-natured, joshing manner and accepted by all races, although white people are much less likely to use ‘blackfella’ because that would be ‘racist’. Aborigines are much more free to use ‘whitefella’, which doesn’t upset us most of us whitefellas at all.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

“Covid passes: Swansea cinema faces court over law breach” 

They need a risk assessment to re-open but was one or a CBA done for the vaxpasses? nope!

Block Bonkers Bureacrats

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

These risk assessment wallahs will be the same types who assessed business premises to instruct them about what had to be done to comply with the then looming ‘Smoking Ban’.
My local tyre fitting company had been instructed that his entire yard would have to be completely off limits despite it comprising several hundred yards metres of open space.

I happened to have some paperwork on me that confirmed that smoking restrictions extended only to X? metres from any door, entrance or window. Local Authorities are not allowed to expand the scope of any Law enacted by Parliament.
So although it took a while to get used to not smoking in the waiting room at least I could do so in over half of the open yard.

There are still millions of those illiterate stickers
“It is illegal to smoke in these premises”
Which will probably be the case for millions of lockdown signs for years to come.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/11/23/biden-advises-americans-who-cant-afford-gasoline-to-buy-an-ev/
HIs Marie Antoinette moment?!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Let’s Go Brioche!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Make good on your investment in just over a hundred years, what a bargain‼except that cars aren’t built to last more than ten these days.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

“There’s only one right way to get people vaccinated” 

Er don’t bother. The best way is to catch SARS2! Since the clot shots don’t stop you catching or passing it on, but catching it does it’s obvious that not risking the clot-shots is the best option.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

The Big Lie of Public Health exposed and debunked. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/11/no_author/smallpox-the-historical-myths-behind-mandatory-vaccines/

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DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
3 years ago

The most serious data is from Israel. If the booster program merely shows a short-term boost to protection followed by an even deeper drop off than after first two doses than the entire booster program may end up killing more lives than it saves. Each successive jab May (we don’t know yet) reduce response meaning eventually no response. if that is correct than any booster should be given as a last response and only at such times of highest risk.

And yet, Europe will soon mandate everyone take the shot (I had my original two but no more). The maddens continues, and when applied to children who face essentially 0 risk, it’s not mad, its criminal.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

For maximum exposure you should post this under the latest page. Not many people read Roundup comments once newer pages start to go up.
Don’t worry about being ‘off topic’ especially if you have something new or interesting to share.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

After my first Chemotherapy session and follow up drugs I was very happy to tell my Consultant that I had experienced remarkably few of the many possible side effects listed in a 6 page leaflet (Both sides so 12 in total, A4 standard spacing).
He told me quite bluntly that might not remain the case, chemo effectively poisons your body and can build up after repeated sessions.
(Happily that did not occur in my case).

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Did you try a Keto Diet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_effect_(oncology)

also keto increases autophagy and mitophagy.

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Felice
Felice
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

I don’t have access to Trialsite, so I went straight to Worldometers to see what the stats there said. According to that, new ‘cases’ are bumping along around the 500/day mark, and have been since the beginning of November. ‘Deaths’ showed a big spike on 22/11 but then there had been no deaths reported since 17/11 so presumably a delayed reporting spike.
What does Trialsite know that Worldometer does not? Will it become obvious in the next few days??? Can anyone who has read the Trialsite article fill me in a bit more please?

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

Here are the charts from Israel.
What is interesting is that if you compare the vaccine doses chart to the new cases, ICU admissions and deaths charts you will see that, ignoring the first “wave” which was pre vaccination programme:

  • There is a spike in new cases, ICU admissions and deaths when the first vaccination programme starts
  • The spike ends around the same time the vaccination doses levels out
  • There is another spike in new cases, ICU admissions and deaths when the booster programme starts at the end of July
  • This spike ends when the vaccine doses level out for a second time.

Now correlation does not equal causation of course, and the virus is off doing its own thing independent of the vaccine programme, but the fact that increases in cases, ICU admissions and deaths coincide twice with a major increase in vaccination, and decreases twice coincide with a major decrease in vaccination, at the very least suggests that the vaccination programme is not working to prevent infection, hospitalisation and death.

In fact the wave of cases which coincided with the booster programme is larger than the previous waves.

Israel is in BIG trouble, both in health terms and political terms.

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Encierro
Encierro
3 years ago

A lesson from the late 1970’s?
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/health/smallpox-death-locked-down-birmingham-11322667

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
3 years ago

Just wanted to say thank you to Will for his brilliant rebuttal of That Guardian Article of a couple of days back. Sister in law posted the original Guardian piece on FB with the moronic shit about how it breaks her heart that people are ‘so selfish’ not to get the injections. So I replied with the link to Will’s article quoting the killer comment about the lack of data and evidence. Of course nobody will engage with it because my OH’s family all think I’m some crazy deluded conspiracy theorist nutter. I doubt they will even read it – wouldn’t want facts and data to get in the way of hysterical virtue signalling would they?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Oh I concur. The moronic brain-donors were jumping all over that one. I too did some debunking using Will’s article and the one that was shared in the Round Up yesterday at the Jamiestats site. They’re so desperate they wouldn’t know fake news if it bit them on the arse.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Lord Ridley is spreading unsubstantiated conspiracy theories about bat markets and lab leaks. No mention that the so called proof of virus from China was some computer generated load of bullcrap, not a legit virus sample taken from a human. 2 years have gone by and I still have not seen a single grain of real world evidence that ANYTHING these lowlifes are telling us is true. There is either a low mortality rate virus which is not noticeable at all to society as a whole or the whole thing is a complete fraud and there is NO VIRUS. Those are the only two options left on the table. My hunch is that there is no virus but I could be wrong and I accept that. The reason for siding with this is that by now, I should be seeing clear signs that there is truth in what the government is saying. I have seen ZERO evidence with my own eyes that there is a novel virus sweeping the world indiscriminately wiping people out causing new symptoms. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. There is no 3D evidence of any novel virus in society. Is there actually a clinical precise paper defining exactly what Covid is, or havent they got around to that yet, because were still learning about THE VIRUS. Are they still rinsing that one.

There is tonnes and tonnes of evidence of lies, fraud, deceit, criminality, corruption, brainwashing, propaganda, misinformation, trickery, mislabelling of deaths, bribing the media, subjecting health care workers to military grade brainwashing and intimidation tactics, psychological warfarfe and a foul stench of Communist agenda teeing up the New Normal dystopia these criminals want us living in. Theres loads of that. So I am trusting my gut and using my brain and personal lived experience to conclude that on balance, there is no new virus, there is just mislabelling of death which has been done deliberately. The scum running the UK even went so far as to change the regs surrounding death registration to facilitate death certificate forgery, then they invented the transparently fraudulent “any death within 28 days of a fraudulent PCR test is a Convid death”. What kind of moron takes this crap seriously. ITS ALL FRAUDULENT. Ditto the PCR tests – fraudulent tests which cannot do what the government says they do and this has been proven in court.

I wonder how much time Lord Shilley devoted to investigating these super important matters. None, I would guess. But he had loads of time to trick his readership into choosing either LIE NUMBER ONE OR LIE NUMBER TWO, so whichever of Shilleys unsubstantiated conclusions you buy into, you buy into nothing more than carefully constructed lies. He may be totally unaware of this, just another hypnotised brainwashed Brit who keeps believing in known liars and their fantastical fairytales, who hasnt got the guts to research or publish anything that contradicts official lies. The Lords do nothing of real value and they do nothing to improve this country, they just rubber stamp all the Orwellian criminal antihuman crap these lowlifes force upon us and laugh in everyones face saying thanks for the 300 quid a day for doing fuck all.

If there is a low mortality rate virus – the governmemt is lying and all this is a blatant scam to bring in the New Dystopian Normal. If there is no virus, the government is lying. Either way THEY ARE LYING AND CONNING EVERYONE OUT OF THEIR FREEDOM. Known proven liars, lying again, surprise surprise.

Death certificate forgery in the UK explained:

COVID 19 Is A Statistical Nonsense
https://in-this-together.com/covid-19-is-a-statistical-nonsense/

Brainwashing and psychological warfare weaponised against British public by the State using taxpayer money.

COVID 19 – The UK Scamdemic – Part 2
https://in-this-together.com/covid-19-the-uk-scamdemic-part-2/

China was used as the launchpad for the Scamdemic, but the notion they are doing this independently of the powers in the West and worldwide is laughable.

The Chinese Communist Party’s Global Lockdown Fraud
https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH UK MHRA – Exposing the genomic sequence of SARSCov2
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/email-exchange-with-uk-mhra-exposing-the-genomic-sequence-of-sarscov2/

See link for email exchange with MHRA:

When I read the Wuhan study in Feb 2020 I was mortified by the monkey kidney & foetal cell-lines which were used as a “culture” before rt-PCR amplification. Isolation was never satisfactory at any stage thereafter.

I honestly felt sick.

The genome sequence was computed from this.

I set about proving that the vaccine has been created from a computer generated genomic sequence & not one isolated from an infected person, either in Wuhan or anywhere else in the world since.

The Pfizer BioNTech vaccine was approved by UK MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency) & I initiated a polite exchange of emails with them as follows:

Go to link for info.

[NOTE: the screenshots of the emails have been compiled into a pdf, here: https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/UK-MHRA-emails-w-FL.pdf — CM]

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Actually I take back the comment about the government lying about Covid19 being a LOW MORTALITY RATE VIRUS. They admitted to this before the first lockdown, and put it in writing that they DOWNGRADED the severity level of C19 owing to the fact it is LOW MORTALITY ie nothing to worry about, no more deadly than the common flu. Then they proceed to destroy our lives, wreck the economy, steal our freedom and commit acts of war and genocide against the people who pay their wages, tricking them into being injected with experimental gene therapy for NO VALiD REASON, murdering and maiming with complete contempt for the people who have paid for all this – the public (and Gates who stuffs their pockets with money). These are clear cut crimes. But Lord Ridley wont be telling you about that.

Also in addition to mislabelling of death, we have clear evidence that governments around the world delibrately scared people into the hospitals and then killed them by fasttracking them to mechanical ventilators. See Global Lockdown Fraud CCP paper i posted above for evidence of that, They also killed people with Remdesevir and Midazolam. Pure fraud and criminality. Why doesnt RIdley do some real investigation into this, rather than writing books about bullshit.

High consequence infectious diseases (HCID)
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

Status of COVID-19

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b
3. Deadly Recommendations for Early Mechanical Ventilation Came from China
In early March 2020, the WHO released COVID-19 provider guidance documents to healthcare workers.The guidance recommended escalating quickly to mechanical ventilation as an early intervention for treating COVID-19 patients, a departure from past experience during respiratory-virus epidemics.In doing so, they cited the guidance being presented by Chinese journal articles, which published papers in January and February claiming that “Chinese expert consensus” called for “invasive mechanical ventilation” as the “first choice” for people with moderate to severe respiratory distress, in part to protect medical staff. As the Wall Street Journal later reported:

Last spring, doctors put patients on ventilators partly to limit contagion at a time when it was less clear how the virus spread, when protective masks and gowns were in short supply. Doctors could have employed other kinds of breathing support devices that don’t require risky sedation, but early reports suggested patients using them could spray dangerous amounts of virus into the air, said Theodore Iwashyna, a critical-care physician at University of Michigan and Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals in Ann Arbor, Mich.

At the time, he said, doctors and nurses feared the virus would spread through hospitals. “We were intubating sick patients very early. Not for the patients’ benefit, but in order to control the epidemic and to save other patients,” Dr. Iwashyna said “That felt awful.” (emphasis added)

In New York and other cities, early and often ventilator use became a common theme, and it had devastating consequences for patients. On March 31, 2020, Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell, who had been caring for ICU patients at one of the hardest-hit hospitals in New York City, acted as an early whistleblower, sounding the alarm about the ventilator issue in a widely-shared video:

We are operating under a medical paradigm that is untrue… I fear that this misguided treatment will lead to a tremendous amount of harm to a great number of people in a very short time… I don’t know the final answer to this disease, but I’m quite sure that a ventilator is not it… This method being widely adopted at this very moment at every hospital in the country … is actually doing more harm than good.

An April Reuters interview with dozens of medical specialists made it clear that mechanical ventilator overuse had become a global issue: “Many highlighted the risks from using the most invasive types of them — mechanical ventilators — too early or too frequently, or from non-specialists using them without proper training in overwhelmed hospitals.”
By May 2020, it was common knowledge in the medical community that early ventilator use was hurting, not helping, COVID-19 patients, and that less invasive measures were in fact very effective in assisting recoveries. A New York City study found a 97.2% mortality rate among those over age 65 who received mechanical ventilation. The “early action” ventilator guidance that the WHO distributed to the world killed thousands of innocent patients; the WHO obtained that guidance from China.

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Lowe
Lowe
3 years ago

I don’t think Boris should be criticised for not wearing a mask whilst sat watching Macbeth. Why not instead pretend he was sat eating? Then all would be well! In fact, shouldn’t everyone pretend they’re sat eating a meal all the time, then they could all dispose of their masks forever?

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