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Small Proportion of Vaccinated People Have Died Of Covid – and Most Caught the Virus before the Vaccine Could Have Taken Effect

by Michael Curzon
30 April 2021 2:00 PM

NHS data shows that only a very small proportion of people who have received a Covid vaccine have been admitted to hospital with the virus and died. Around 70% of these people caught Covid before the vaccine would be expected to work, according to a new study, and many were also elderly and frail. The Guardian has the story.

A small number of people vaccinated against Covid have been admitted to hospital with the disease and died, researchers have found, but most were frail and elderly and caught the virus before the jab could have taken effect.

Scientists say their findings are reassuring. They bear out the conclusions of trials of the vaccines in use in the U.K., which show the jabs are highly effective but do not protect everyone.

The ISARIC/Co-CIN study was designed to give the Government’s scientific advisory body, SAGE, an early signal of whether or not the vaccines were working. 

“We’re saying that the vaccine does work. In fact, this is good real-world evidence of it working, but there are some few failures. And when these failures do occur, sadly, people die, but that’s because they’re elderly and frail,” said Professor Calum Semple, a Co-Lead of ISARIC (International Severe Acute Respiratory and Emerging Infection Consortium).

More than 52,000 people were admitted to hospital with Covid in England, Scotland and Wales between December 8th and March 10th. Of those, 3,842 had been vaccinated. The researchers had information on the date of the first dose of vaccine for 3,598 of them and information on the date of a second dose for 140.

The vaccines would not be expected to work fully until three weeks after they were given, said Dr Annemarie Docherty, an Honorary Consultant in Critical Care at the University of Edinburgh. Most of those admitted post-vaccination were infected just before or in the couple of weeks after receiving their jab. The median time from vaccination to symptoms in the study was 15 days.

“Around 71% of the vaccinated patients that we have in hospital in Isaric developed their symptoms before the vaccine would be expected to work,” she said. “So we’re really only talking about 29% of these patients where we would have hoped the vaccine to prevent hospital admission.”

A total of 526 patients out of 52,000 (1%) had been vaccinated more than three weeks before they developed Covid symptoms and were hospitalised. Of those, 113 died. Most of them (97) were in the two highest risk categories, so frail, elderly or otherwise highly vulnerable.

Worth reading in full.

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Hugh
Hugh
1 year ago
  • “Covid inquiry ‘limits outside voices’ on whether lockdown was too draconian” – The Hallett Inquiry is seemingly reluctant to accept contrarian research into lockdowns, the Telegraph says, such as the report recently published by the IEA which found that the intervention saved 1,700 lives.

So a whitewash then as always seemed likely, and will presumably limit itself to such questions as whether Peking Piffle partied too hard and whether enough had been spent on health since 2010.

Just out of interest, is there any point in contributing to the enquiry (as radio adverts are now urging), and are any serious attempts being made to prevent it being a complete whitewash, and ensure that pharmaceutical companies, the media (including Oliver Wright and the Times muppets) and other collaborators (such as ICL, or the people behind the rigged vitamin D trials) are held properly to account for their actions?

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DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh

If you’re referring to EveryStoryMatters then contributing is a good idea. Otherwise, it could be dominated by stories that may be critical of selective aspects of the government response but generally support the narrative.

Like any government consultation, it may not make any difference on the outcome but the point is to ensure the information is there so it cannot be claimed there was no criticism of lockdown, unethical use of psychology, bypassing of informed consent by coercion, computer modelling etc.

An alternative is to be less critical and put in a positive experience: how uplifting it was when you saw those around you start to shed their trust in the government and mainstream media.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  DHJ

“may be critical of selective aspects of the government response but generally support the narrative.”

I think this part of your statement says it all! This is the target the inquiry is already aiming for, the arrow is already heading for the bullseye!

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh

I have never heard or seen any such advert. Perhaps their agency did not chose GB News or Daily Sceptic?

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DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

GBNews did an article on it but there doesn’t appear to be a link in the article.

https://www.gbnews.com/health/covid-lockdown-pandemic-rules-inquiry

Here’s the site:

https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/every-story-matters/

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Hugh
Hugh
1 year ago
  • “The main Covid lockdown casualties: Children” – “The evidence keeps piling up that children were the biggest casualties of the Government’s response to Covid,” says the Wall Street Journal, the latest being the news that suicide rates among young people in the U.S. have hit a 20-year high.

Interestingly enough, I just watched a film, Death Comes To School” (1953), a murder mystery about an unpopular teacher who was murdered. In the end, it turned out that it was one of her fellow teachers who did it, to protect a niece at the all girls (and all female teachers) school, from having her father forced into a divorce by this teacher (Miss Cooper) who was having an affair with him. Now I absolutely don’t condone murder, and accept that there is a legitimate debate to be had about affairs. However, the point stands that in general, those who are prepared to make great sacrifices to protect children are greatly to be admired (see the Birkenhead Drill) – the exact opposite, shamefully, of what happened with the lockdowns and their “obsessive safetyism” (Toby Young) – but not for the safety of children. Of course we know now (if we didn’t after Diamond Princess) that they didn’t make anyone safe. Put that in your “covid” enquiry.

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Hugh
Hugh
1 year ago
  • “Tories drink, dance and laugh at Covid rules in first ever Partygate video” – The Mirror showcases some video footage of the Christmas knees-up held at Conservative Campaign Headquarter, December 14th 2020.

As it happens, some of our people from the anti-lockdown church had a bit of a Christmas knees-up towards the end of December, 2020, and we make no apologies for it. Never forget, Peking Piffle’s crime was locking us down and the associated human rights abuses. The parties just rubbed salt in the wound.

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DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh

Where are the reports of how many people were hospitalised or died as a result of civil service parties and lockdown gatherings? Would that not be the headline story? The event highlights the hypocrisy, the silence on the consequences highlights the fraud.

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Hugh
Hugh
1 year ago
  • “Federal judge rules MA student’s ‘there are only two genders’ T-shirt ‘invades the rights of others’, is not protected by free speech” – A Judge in Massachusetts has ruled that wearing a T-shirt saying “there are only two genders” could be construed as bullying, the Post Millennial reports.

There are of course three genders – masculine, feminine and neuter ( der, die, das). I dare say though that he didn’t mean to bully the Germans…

let’s not be beastly to the Germans noel coward at DuckDuckGo

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
1 year ago

The Hallett Inquiry sounds like an (expensive) attempt by The Blob to lay down an “official” history of the Covid years. Probably won’t work these days quite as well as in former eras.

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Hugh
Hugh
1 year ago
  • “Council spends nearly £50,000 on ‘rainbow junction’” – Disability campaigners have urged Hounslow council to “rethink its priorities”, the Telegraph says, after it spent £50,000 on a ‘rainbow junction’ that’s leaving partially-sighted people dazed and confused.

I suppose if a partially sighted person happened to spit at this particular junction, it would count as “hateful behaviour”. Maybe fines could be issued to such partially sighted people so that the council could recover some of their costs…

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Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh

And where are the
child poverty crossing/disabled crossing/heterosexual crossing/abused women/mental illness crossing and many other underrepresented minorities (and unrepresented majorities) in the UK? all deserved of note, but, no, just gay crossings!
Diverse my @r$£!

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AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Hugh

And an insult to Zebras! Pelicans will be next, mark my words…

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Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
1 year ago

Federal judge rules MA student’s ‘there are only two genders’ T-shirt invades the rights of others
Clearly woke nonsense, the student’s right to wear the T-shirt is surely covered by the First Amendment.
Which organisation financially backed whoever took legal action against the student?
The student should claim to be a Christian, even if they aren’t, and being banned from wearing the T-shirt breaches their freedom of religion. Years ago when the woke mob wasn’t as powerful as it is now several students won the right to wear T-shirts saying “homosexuality is a sin” on a freedom of religion rather than freedom of speech defence.

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godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

According to the judge, wearing the shirt within the school is not covered by the First Amendment:

‘Citing multiple precedents, the judge ruled that “A school need not tolerate student speech that is inconsistent with its basic educational mission, [ ] even though the government could not censor similar speech outside the school.” So there was no constitutional violation that occurred.’

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ellie-em
ellie-em
1 year ago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12205705/Chinese-military-expert-filed-patent-Covid-vaccine-died-mysterious-circumstances.html

‘…in Wonderland, nothing is as it seems.’

‘“Curiouser and curiouser!” cried Alice…’

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
1 year ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/17/smart-meters-are-a-trial-run-for-an-even-greater-heat-pump/

It increasingly seems to me that the net-zero fervour of the western world is looking like the deranged rantings of a demented and irrelevant cult. Meanwhile the rest of the World seems to be getting on with real life in the real world.
China has just donated 20,000 tonnes of fertiliser to the Philippines to aid rice production.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202306/1292736.shtml

Russia has sold a load of oil to Pakistan with the trade settled in Chinese yuan. A group of African leaders have met with Putin in Russia to discuss peace in Ukraine. The Russian and Chinese air forces are carrying out joint flying exercises over the Pacific.

I have a premonition of the UK in the future as a country of immiserated, hungry, cold people struggling to survive in our new net-zero third world status. Maybe by then the BRICS nations will have grown so prosperous and powerful that they will send us food parcels and blankets?

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Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Totally agree 👍 any country that holds on to cheap energy will rule the world, in some cases, they already do!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Or walk in an invasion force and use the country as a prison island.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago

A guy from Take That was cancelled from singing at a Pride event because he liked some Tweets. But that’s not the worst bit. The worst bit is his pathetic, arse-kissing apology for doing so. What a pitiful excuse for a man you are, Howard Whatsyername!

”Sharing his own statement to Instagram, Howard wrote: ‘I have made a huge error in my judgement liking social media posts that are derogatory towards the LGBTQIA+ community and for that I a deeply sorry and I know I have let everyone down.
‘I am really disappointed in myself and I am sorry for any hurt that I have caused by my uneducated actions I clearly have a lot to learn and it’s a priority for me that I do this.’
MailOnline has contacted representatives for both Howard and Nottingham Pride for comment. 
Prior to his account being taken down, Howard had liked Tweets such as: ‘Only women have periods! Men cannot menstruate. Transgender ‘women’ cannot menstruate,’ according to PinkNews. 
Howard had also liked a Tweet from Turning Point UK founder Charlie Kirk as he called for Disney to be defunded for holding a pride concert. 
Other Tweets included anti-vax messages and conspiracies.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12205931/Take-Thats-Howard-Donald-axed-Nottingham-Pride-liking-transphobic-homophobic-tweets.html 

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AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The equivalent of a conquered tribe being led through the streets of ancient Rome in chains. What an idiot! Then again, so many have suffered the same fate and done exactly the same thing. Like Clarkson grovelling and apologising on bended knee to the Sussexes (Windsors?). Where are the backbones? Of course, women are the only people who can menstruate! How daft do you have to be to not say the effin’ obvious? Since when did lies become truths? I would bear the fact of being cancelled at a Pride event for such tweets as a badge of honour – something to be really proud of. You know, speaking the actual truth and not being cowed into some subservient groveller agreeing with lies.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Totally, Aethelred. The guy has just demonstrated he has zero credibility or balls, thus is not worthy of our respect. It’s ”Howard the Coward” from now on from me. Somebody else we can not add to our list of allies in the fight against this madness. Hope he doesn’t have kids if this is his attitude to this extremely damaging ideology sweeping the world. What sort of message would he be instilling in them if this is the kind of person he’s proven to be? Everyone should be standing up for reality and biological facts, not pandering to the fantasies of the crazies just because you’re trying desperately to remain relevant now that your heyday is long past. Utter Woketard!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Howard the coward is an absolute canker.

See what I did there? 😀

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AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
1 year ago

“There is still time for us to do right – and save Julian Assange from dying in U.S. dungeon” Perhaps in many people’s minds this is not the most pressing issue of our times yet still this is the metre by which we can judge our own society. Assange has still not been convicted anything yet he has been held in Belmarsh high security prison for 5 years now. Before that, he had a netherworld existence in a cramped space in the Ecuadorean Embassy because he knew that if he was arrested, he would be extradited to Sweden – on trumped up charges subsequently dropped – and from there to the US. This man has suffered. And for what? For exposing the crimes of the US government and NATO. All that power focused on this one man because they hate the fact that he briefly shone a light on their nefarious activities and broke the spell that the US is a force for good. The US is a gangster state disguised as a democracy. They are evil beyond understanding. Nothing the US government and its deep state string pullers does is for the collective good of humanity – they might think they do, in their twisted reasoning, but really they don’t. If Assange is extradited – and it looks like he will be – then it is an awful reflection of a system that doesn’t stand for truth, life, or liberty, if it ever did, but one that crushes, silences, censors, cancels, constricts, stamps on and kills to protect its veneer of respectability, patriarchal concern and quiet uncontested authority – and it is just a veneer and veneer peels off in the light and heat! Sadly, all truth seeking journalists will be just a little bit more wary in holding aloft the torch of truth and shining a light on the dark festering heart of the establishment.

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Totally agree….do you remember Sunak on 3rd May ‘World Press Freedom Day’?
He talked about how important it is, and how he stands ‘shoulder to shoulder’ with the US on Russia’s detention of US journalist Evan Gershkovich…

..but on one of the most egregious arrests ever…crickets!!?

The fact that the UK is supposed to send him to a banana republic where the wannabe dictator is currently arresting his political rivals, is the cherry on the cake!

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MichaelM
MichaelM
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

Great post, Aethelred – I agree with every word – and love your description of the US as “a gangster state disguised as a democracy”.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  AethelredTheReadier

A quality post Aethelred. 👍

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

So the New York Times thinks Russia blew the dam?…well they thought Russia bombed Nordstream initially as well….?

I have no more idea than anyone but I know that the UK have sent Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine, and lo and behold, one of the functions of the missile is that it can penetrate a structure before it explodes!……

Wikipedia…..
The Storm Shadow’s BROACH warhead features an initial penetrating charge to clear soil or enter a bunker, then a variable delay fuze to control detonation of the main warhead. Intended targets are command, control and communications centres; airfields; ports and power stations; ammunition management and storage facilities; surface ships and submarines in port; bridges and other high value strategic targets.

When engaging hard targets, such as Hardened Aircraft Shelters or bunkers, the missile will strike the target at the estimated optimum dive angle, selected during mission planning. On impact the detonation sequence commences. The precursor charge will perforate the target structure, and any soil covering, and the follow through penetrator warhead will continue to penetrate inside the target to be detonated after a pre-selectable fuse delay.

Just putting out there!!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/twenty-four-reasons-why-net-zero-must-be-abandoned/

A pretty comprehensive take-down of the myths around Co2 and its impacts on non-existent anthropogenic climate change.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://www.ukcolumn.org/blogs/truro-diocese-on-the-way-to-closing-churches

The destruction of English churches and in this article specifically Cornwall. Indicative of the systematic dismantling of the British way of life.

I don’t but doubt similar destructive practices are under way in other counties. All led by senior members of the clergy. Well I never. It’s almost as if Satan was taking over.

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