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by Jonathan Barr
12 April 2021 1:51 AM

  • “Enjoy freedom… but don’t overdo it!” – Boris is urging Brits to ‘behave responsibly’ as they head out to shops and beer gardens today, the Daily Mail reports
  • “Covid third wave no longer expected in the summer, government advisers admit” – Government scientists have conceded that Britain is unlikely to see a surge of infections over the summer, the Telegraph reports, despite the gloomy modelling submitted to SAGE at the end of March
  • “More than half of people in England living in areas with almost no new Covid cases” – The infection rate is now so low in many parts of the country that Public Health England has been redacting the weekly tally of cases to protect the privacy of people who test positive, according to the Telegraph
  • “Come what may, the roadmap must not be delayed” – “Cases may well rise when more restrictions are eased,” says an editorial in the Telegraph, “but now the vulnerable have been vaccinated, that must not get in the way of unlocking”
  • “Shutting up shop: high street names we’ll see no more” – As non-essential retail reopens, the Observer has published a round-up of some of the big high street names that have gone out of business as a result of the lockdowns
  • “Fancy a pint? You’d better have booked it long ago” – Some might struggle to get into a pub garden for a spontaneous drink, according to the Sunday Times. Many venues are fully booked for weeks
  • “Why I will not be returning to the pub next week” – “The conditions for drinkers next week are far removed from the convivial and relaxed atmosphere of this British institution,” says Niall McCrae at the Unity News Network
  • “Covid-status certificates could lead to deliberate infections, scientists warn” – Government scientific advisors are warning that ‘Covid Status Certificates’ might encourage some to get themselves infected on purpose so they can obtain proof of antibodies, according to the Guardian
  • “Villages near Salisbury want Novichok litter-pick ban to end” – The BBC reported last week that villages near Salisbury are calling for an end to the litter pick ban which was put in place after the Novichok attack in 2018 and, per the very cautious advice of Public Health England, is still in force three years later
  • “EU commissioner takes another jab jibe at UK” – The Spectator’s Steerpike responds to Thiery Breton’s assertion that Britain is “largely dependent on the EU for its vaccination campaign”
  • “The inequality pandemic” – The cost of lockdowns and other Covid containment measures has harmed the poorest most, says Özgür Polat in the Brussels Times
  • “Increased sunlight exposure linked to reduced coronavirus death risk” – The Jerusalem Post reports on research that suggests people who live in sunnier areas may have a lower risk of succumbing to COVID-19
  • “Iran enforces 10-day lockdown amid fourth wave of pandemic” – The Associated Press report that Iran has begun a 10-day lockdown that will see most shops closed and offices restricted to one-third capacity in cities declared to be ‘red zones’
  • “Burbank puts fence around restaurant to stop anti-lockdown owner from serving customers” – The Tinhorn Flats Saloon & Grill in Burbank, California has been fenced off by authorities after it repeatedly refused to obey orders to shut down, according to the Daily Mail
  • “The damage of lockdowns to young people” – Writing for AIER, Ethan Yang details the damage lockdown policies has done to young people, including increased incidents of suicidal thoughts, skyrocketing anxiety and setbacks to their education and career prospects
  • “Will Covid hysterics ever let our children live normal lives?” – For more than a year, children “have suffered from irrational, unscientific and downright superstitious policies inflicted upon them by adults”, says Karol Markowicz in the New York Post, “and there is no end in sight”
  • “Top U.S. diplomat criticises China, says ‘need to get to the bottom’ of COVID-19 origin” – US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken has said that it is important to “get to the bottom” of the origins of Covid, arguing that China’s failure to provide global health experts with proper access to the country last January made the pandemic worse than it needed to be
  • “India bans export of Remdesivir COVID-19 treatment drug” – Authorities in India ordered the embargo, according to Deutsche Welle, after rising Covid infections led to increased internal demand for the antiviral drug
  • “China considers blending vaccines to bolster effectiveness” – According to the Irish Times, China is considering mixing and matching different vaccines after the head of the country’s centre for disease control admitted its domestically produced jabs are not very effective
  • “‘The right path’– Chile defends Sinovac use amid fresh efficacy questions” – Reuters reports that Chilean authorities have defended its use of Sinovac, saying that the number of hospitalisations has fallen
  • “The secret COVID-19 death toll figure that had the NSW government terrified” – The Government in New South Wales, Australia was given an alarming warning back in March last year, based on modelling, that 25,000 people could die from Covid in the state, the Sydney Morning Herald reports
  • “Le Retour! Danser Encore” – We will dance again! The flash mob returned to Paris’s Gare de l’Est
  • “We can expect a large number of preprints and papers reporting ‘breakthrough infections’” – Professor Francois Balloux has written a twitter thread on the likely scare stories about Covid strains that “break through” vaccine-mediated immunity and why they should be taken with a pinch of salt

Over the coming weeks and months, we can expect a large number of preprints and papers reporting 'breakthrough infections', i.e. infections in vaccinated individuals.
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— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) April 11, 2021
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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

A Local Live article features a picture of the landlord of my unlovely nearest pub.
He was explaining that with outside seating limited to just 16 people it was not worth reopening until the next stage of bozos roadmap.

“Fortunately we have a large inside so when it comes to CONTROLLING measures inside we have a WELL DRILLED and CONTROLLED system”.

I can’t wait.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Why have they only got outside seating again? Strewth, I’m glad it’s not outside purchases only at the shops.

I’d say come round to ours but, you know…
We’ve been having gettogethers most weeks for months one way and another. And I keep thinking how lucky we are to have over 20 of us getting together (almost) every week at our exempt “support” group, no masks, tea, cakes, and none of us have dropped dead yet.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Nor are you,your friends and people all over the country going to,either.
Sheep and collaborators, take note!!

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Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Makes me wonder if the boutique owner who gave me a glass of prosecco and a cupcake as I was browsing today, was breaking some law or other.
Neither of us were wearing masks. About 50% of other browsers were unmasked, and she didn’t seem to be counting us in and out.
Heavenly! I spent more than I intended and will return.
Let’s hope other businesses do likewise

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

There were pre-covid reports of hair & beauty salons giving their clients a complimentary glass of prosecco being grassed up to the Licenceing Authorities who came round demanding they they get an Alcohol licence to carry on trading.
Bloody little Hitlers.

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TheFascistCoronaFraud
TheFascistCoronaFraud
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

” Government-approved rock-n-roll? Woo! We‘re partying now! “

Bill Hicks

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

All going to plan…TheFascistCoronaFraud

Meanwhile more explosive modelling predictions from our trusty Dr. financed by the Kill & Melindoid Grates foundation expert over there in the good-ole-USA…

https://youtu.be/ATOIjN3IF6c

Mask up people…. Mask up!

P A N I C

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

🤣Brilliant👍, thank you !☺️

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Burlington
Burlington
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Spot on!

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Increased sunlight exposure linked to reduced cv death risk”

No joke! I think I’ve sussed Finland and Norway too. Finland adds vitamin D to basic foods, Norway eats more fish than any major country in Europe, particularly herring, salmon and mackerel – with both salmon and mackerel being particularly high in vitamin D. Not that there’s any evidence that vitamin D reduces risk from viruses or anything…

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The Jerusalem Post article relating to research carried out in the USA, UK and Italy specifically rules out increased vitamin D production (as postulated here at LS from 12 months ago and ever since ) as the cause of reduced Covid infections.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I admire the careful way you read pieces. Yes, because in the areas/times studied the sun wasn’t strong enough for the body to produce D in the skin, Could be a higher reservoir of D perhaps though, left over from last summer, and topped up by diets higher in D… it is intriguing. Years ago, Oliver Gillie, D expert, told me: “The sun may do other things we don’t know about yet.” The nitric oxide theory is interesting.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

I liked the way that JP ended the article by helpfully reminding us that Israel is a sunny country 😉.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

From the roundup.
China briefly admits its various vaccines are a bit rubbish so might start blending them while Chile defends its use of Chinese Sinovac vaccine even though it is only 50% effective.
Will our NHS vaccine app differentiate between people who have had proper UK (emergency) approved vaccines and those who have had Mickey Mouse concoctions like Sinovac, the Russian Sputnik, India’s Remdesivire and whatever monkey muck Israel is spunking into its people ?

(Sarc).

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Presumably.

What was that sitcom with the dentist? His son is taking an experimental medical product to earn a bit of money. “But it might have terrible side effects”. “Yes but it might not though!” About where we are?

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Marg
Marg
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Israel mainly Pfizer, think Moderna may be in the mix. They have now tested 400 vaccinated after 14 days and 400 non vaccinated. Those vaccinated were 8 times likely to get South Africa strain. Article in daily mail. This is what happens with rushed out medication

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

From the roundup
‘Covid third wave in summer no longer expected admits government adviser’

This is a considerable climbdown, since the very start the government/SAGE has consistently denied the seasonality of Covid, though to us at LS it was perfectly obvious.

Ongoing ‘waves’ have always been predicted on the basis of our bad behaviour (not that any of those predictions were ever realised).
The anonymous government adviser in the Telegraph article criticises the ‘models’ for excluding seasonality and uses the word at least three times before the paywall came down.

When the Covid does reappear in the Autumn it still won’t be a third ‘wave’ and it won’t be our fault for mingling on the beach or in the pub but simply the virus doing what virus do.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

A bit like ‘flu….

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Winston Smith

Exactly like flu.
The reason for this U-turn is likely to be that even if they get the universal ‘two free tests a week’ scam going they still won’t be able to manufacture a summer ‘third wave’ so will just have to let nature take its course.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The only difference with this bout of word-eating is that it has (a) happened at all (most SAGE bollocks stands uncorrected . Remember the 4000 a day?) and (b) has happened before the Wide Awake Club would have been able to rub the toy modelers’ faces in it.

… but dimwits will still go on about ‘The Rules’ – I bet.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

From the roundup.
‘More than half of people in England living in areas with almost no new Covid cases ‘ Telegraph.

Next week that will become
‘Johnson criticised as figures show almost half of people in England are living in Covid hotspots since pubs and frivolous retail reopened’.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I very much doubt it. Spring/ summer Endemic equilibrium was achieved around the 13th- 16th March 2020. As it is a bit colder this year there might be a few more cases but people are much more out and about, compared to this time last year, so will have stronger natural immunity. Whether we will see a seasonal resurgence in the autumn is moot but I don’t think we will this time because we achieved autumn/ winter endemic equilibrium around Christmas Day 2020.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

I was not referring to any reality Will, rather the government (via their MSM lackeys) reinterpreting the same information for their own aims.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Understood!! As an aside iirc I think your husband came up with a final figure of 136,000 deaths, he looks bang on the money!!!

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TheFascistCoronaFraud
TheFascistCoronaFraud
4 years ago

Weimar District Court, Ruling of April 8th, 2021 – English Translation
Weimar court rules that schools may not impose masks, distancing, or PCR tests as it confers no benefits on children, harms their well-being, hinders their development, and infringes on their rights.

https://www.scribd.com/document/502458596/Weimar-District-Court-Ruling-of-April-8th-2021-English-Translation

From this twitter account, Michael P Senger who I believe wrote the incredible paper about the Chinese Communist Party’s role in engineering the Corona Fraud

Michael P Senger
https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger

The Chinese Communist Party’s Global Lockdown Fraud

https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

Re. the Weimar ruling and others similar – it has been noted in cases like this that higher courts have been corrupted into overturning the rulings.

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Indeed.
But the ruling is valid until then, likely a few months.
It is only valid in the locations that were subject to the motion.
People are advised to sue themselves now on those grounds if they want an applicability to their schools and seem to have good chances- until then.
It’s main significance is that for the first time the court refused to accept only the RKI’s conclusions as the sole permitted evidence and gospel.
Instead, it did what courts normally do: hear various experts and consider their findings as evidence too and then come up with its own conclusions.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

Nice but small beginning, Weimars population at 65,000 is somewhat less than Barrow-in-Furness.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

From the roundup.
“Le Retour! Danser Encore”

Very refreshing, not just Paris either.
We need more like this daily ATL.
This from Ruptly YouTube, protests this weekend in Austria, Netherlands and Denmark.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And in other news from France seems lockdowns are only intended for the deplorable peasantry classes…

https://twitter.com/m6info/status/1378089447271596038

With HNW individuals and govt ministers flagrantly violating the ‘saving lives’ rules by having exclusive soirée dinner parties at luxury restaurants, with the meals costing as much as €490 per head.

Even in Norway, that well known socialist utopian all’s equal enclave Erna’s been a very naughty PM too.

https://www.shethepeople.tv/news/norway-prime-minister-erna-solberg-fined-for-flouting-covid-19-restrictions-birthday/

Don’t these politico elites realise there’s a deadly, ruthless efficient killing machine virus laying most of their citizens to waste amongst their nation’s states…

Are we missing something here?

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

“Norway, that well known socialist utopia”

What led you to dream up that description? Do a bit of research. Just because they didn’t make a brain-dead Thatcher catastrophe out of their oil assets doesn’t make them ‘socialist’.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I lived in the Rogaland region for quite some time, so have first-hand experience mate.

If you know anything of the filthy black gold industry it needed swathes of US boomer engineers shipped in, to get those NOKs flowing.

You?

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

I’m not arguing about where you lived, ‘mate’ – just your lack of grasp of political definition.

Nothing to do with the operation of the industry.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

https://erlendkulanderkvitrud.medium.com/sorry-libertarians-but-scandinavia-is-indeed-socialist-5e018145e5f4

Some political definitions are very well understood, but indeed not by everybody.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Except it’s not really socialist is it.
It’s got lots of state support and state subsidised nice family orientated things.
Scandis know this has to be paid for somehow.
Therfore the economy is more free market wheeler dealer than ours or indeed the US.
Check out Sweden Denmark etc on the economic freedom front
Easier to make someone redundant in Denmark, but the state support for the unemployed is higher.
Saab going bust – Meh!
Secondary schools sunstantially private in Sweden – thats where Toby Young got.the free school model from!.
NHS – wah – they don’t have an NHS, the streets must be full of millions of dead people!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Each of those stories got a little bit of MSM attention, just enough to stir up a bit of class hatred, divide and rule.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I don’t have any problem at all with peeps being well-healed and Coutts equipped or Brewin Dolphin advised for whatever reason – good luck to them.

What I take issue with is ‘average’ everyday folks livelihoods being trashed
and destroyed by sanctimonious politicos who don’t live by their ill-considered draconian edicts they inflict on the masses, and have absolutely no intention of following themselves.

And as so many of them in office seem to get caught out, the stench of the duplicity is overwhelming.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

In our little corner of South Shropshire we have just woken up to over an inch of snow.
Anybody fancy a cold salad (socially distanced of course) outside one of our local hostelries?
No, l didn’t think so.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

No, ban all vehicles from the roads in case someone skids into the gutter. Ban to remain in force until the Met Office confirms no further snow predicted for seven days.
Failure to comply = £10k fine or ten years imprisonment.

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SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hahahahahah!

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Marg
Marg
4 years ago

Ivermectin studies by Dr Pierre Kory show effective it is in treating the virus. Meanwhile Israel tests on 400 Pfizer vaccinated after 14 days and 400 non vaccinated. The vaccinated show that they are 8 times as likely to get the South African strain. China saying their vaccine only 50% effective.
You decide for yourself which treatment is best for you and your family.
Perhaps it’s the non vaccinated that need the passport to save us from contact with the vaccinated

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Marg

Certainly, it’s only the asymptomatic vaxxed for whom tests make any sense.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
4 years ago

So the NSW government was warned in March last year that modelling suggested 25,000 could die. The NSW government had just started a mild ‘lockdown’, but it was removed a few weeks later on the basis of their own assessments – not the alarmist-modellers’. There haven’t been any lockdowns since in NSW. As per the article: “There have been 56 COVID deaths in NSW since the start of the pandemic”.

I guess the modellers packed up their models and moved on to happier hunting grounds.

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SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago

NSW govt terrified by modelling predictions last year of a potential 25,000 deaths (in reality 56 deaths so far) caused them to act as they did. (Lockdowns etc) Well…. ditto around the western world. Those modellers really need to be brought to book…. and science’s acceptance/reliance on them seriously questioned. Outrageous behaviour on the part of a body that is supposed to govern. Not knowing what we were dealing with is hardly an excuse. Should have stayed in caves if that’s what we are as human beings..

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

That’s about the same level of inaccuracy as Ferguson had with Bird flu and SARS deaths.

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SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

When will they ever learn? When will they (n)eeeever learn?!

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

“Those modellers really need to be brought to book”

The computer gamers obviously don’t know arse from earhole in terms of data.

But nobody has forced the Tories to use their models. Blame where blame is due.

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SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Crown Corporation?

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MizakeTheMizan
MizakeTheMizan
4 years ago

I find it simultaneously amusing and offensive that a man who doesn’t know how many children he’s fathered, at least six apparently, can tell us to ”behave responsibly”.

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago

Francois Balloux has been conspicuously absent from commenting on vaccines for a long time probably due to his position and outside influence. He is now warning about publications soon of an avalanche of reports of C-19 after vaccine. This is correct as only in a phantasy land is the vaccine 90% effective and they should be happy if it was 60%. Balloux’s twitter and government propaganda is important to stop a drop in vaccine uptake when these reports come in together with AE overflowing with headaches. There are many hypochondriacs who have been vaccinated and they don’t like now to read about VITT or infection possible after vaccine

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Sorry – but the problem is definitely not ‘hypochondriacs‘ – even if all taking the less than 1% risk reduction vaccine can be classified as such.

It’s not about ‘headaches’. The number of people suffering severe short-term adverse reactions is massive. Most never get anywhere near the Yellow Card system.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I followed a friends discussion on FB, dozens of people complaining of brutal side effects. My sister in her fifties felt appalling.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Yes. I know opportunity samples are not random – basic stuff. But I am genuinely surprised at the proportion of people that I know who have had the ‘vaccine’ who have suffered moderate to severe reactions. Far above any other comparable situation.

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

From family and friends in Germany I can report the following sofar: four obese etc. octogenarians, Pfizer both shots: 3 nothing,
1 right arm constantly trembling, can’t write anymore, in neuro treatment.
2 policemen, 1 Xer and a fat smoker, 1 young and ultra fit, AZ: fit guy 2 days off very sick, fat guy 1 day off sick.
Another Xer, smoker, AZ: nothing.
1 septugenarian, Pfizer: thought she would die, serious heart problems for 1 night and day. Informed her doctor, the doctor said not to worry and that she won’t have any problems again after the 2nd shot.
The doctor very likely didn’t report it and: how can she make such a statement?!
The medical profession is beyond repair now, back to the butchering 40s.

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epythymy
epythymy
4 years ago

I’m not sure about purposeful infection. I’ve been trying my best to get it for the last year. I’ve worked on Covid wards, I have worked in a specialist primary care Covid facility (seeing positive or suspected patients in the community to stop them going to their usual GP), and regular general practice. I’ve done very little in the way of behavioural changes (I used to wash my hands before it was cool), never wear a mask (although avoid places where I am expected to do so), have seen friends and family inside my home and theirs throughout (many of whom also work in healthcare) and nothing. I’ve never even required a test. No coughs, colds, fevers or any other illness for the full year.

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  epythymy

Maybe they put up infection centre’s were you can inhale the virus.
I’d rather go there than get the gene therapy.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

I said last April that if I could be voluntary infected then I would. The data was clear a year ago that this virus was of negligible risk to me or my household. I would have considered it a civic thing to do to get SARS-COV-2 and isolate for a week or two, to build up community immunity and protect the frail. Obviously I didn’t fall at all for the lies about asymptomatic transmission so that didn’t factor in, and I never wore a muzzle except when in sight of the fuzz when abroad, and wilfully ignored all the one-way systems and other such pantomime.

However, now I know that this virus is of no threat to anyone, except people who are so frail that the other common cold viruses would pose the same risk. All effort should have been put into protecting nursing homes and the frail in hospitals. Since the government have now killed-off anyone vulnerable in care homes, and then the remainder of the most frail with vaccine side-effects, for me to gain immunity now benefits none of the survivors of government policy.

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SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  epythymy

Yes… this kind of thing should be being looked into, as I’ve always said (to myself). I’ve never had the flu and only suffer from mild chest coughs every few years. I’m not fabulously healthy by any means. The concept of viruses and of contagion needs serious adjustment of our paradigms.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  epythymy

Likewise, as ‘key worker’ I’ve been out and about since the start with up to twenty people encounters a day, sometimes up close and personal, sometimes in enclosed spaces.

That’s about 6k such encounters over the year plus shopping, cafes and pubs when allowed. No masks, minimal sanitizing yet not one of those people gave me the Covid, must just be lucky I suppose.

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TJS123
TJS123
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Similar here, face to face clinics with patients all through the year, with a flexible approach to masks if patients were exempt, ward and ITU visits and still haven’t had covid, as far as I know. I did have a stonking cold over Easter though…

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Lowe
Lowe
4 years ago

Someone on the Today’s Update Comments page suggested that comments ought to go here so they are not deleted. I put the comment below in the General Comments section but thought I’d add a copy here!

I had to walk into town today.

Walked past a woman walking her dog in a narrow alleyway; she shook her head and turned her face to the side. But why did she enter the alleyway in the first place if she was worried about meeting an oncoming breathing human?

In town a long queue outside a shoe shop. Puzzled me at first but then I noticed that many of the people queuing had children in tow. I decided that Government advisors had forgotten that children’s feet grow relatively quickly! Shutting shoe shops as non-essential not a brilliant idea.

A number of young people sat outside cafes/pubs in the sunshine enjoying life – seeing people enjoying life must cause Government ministers acute agony.

Later I had to take my mother to the dentist. Neither of us with a mask. I sit maskless in the waiting room. A man enters and tells the receptionist he has come to collect some antibiotic for a friend. He apologizes for not having a mask on and the receptionist provides him with one which he fastens on. He is in there for about three minutes. I am quietly sat there maskless about six feet away from him – clearly I am the elephant in the waiting room that no one dares mention.

In the sunshine I didn’t spot a single virus anywhere.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago

Following on from a suggestion on Today’s Update thread, I’m starting a discussion on what might lie behind the madness we see all around: hugely damaging lockdowns (destroying our economies, education, health, culture and family life), dissociating masks made compulsory despite their negative impact on health, billions wasted on test and trace and unneeded coercive mass vaccination.

Thought it might be worthwhile just listing some possible explanations (not all mutually exclusive) that have been mentioned:

  1. Cockup theory. It’s all a giant cockup by incompetent leaders, doctors, epidemiologists, public health officials etc
  2. Mass hysteria. A kind of mass hysteria took grip of people, politicians and public officials, made worse by MSM and social media fanning the flames and pouring ever more fuel on the fire.
  3. Chinese CCP regime have deliberately or negligently released a modified virus or somehow engineered the pandemic panic. Generally this is seen as part of a plan to destroy the democracies.
  4. Money. The principle reason for all we see around us has been the pursuit of money, especially by Big Pharma seeking super-profits in the trillions.
  5. Big Tech have engineered things so that the Covid crisis has allowed them to prosper mightily.
  6. Covid was used as the means by which to turf Trump out of office – it created a political crisis, allowed Biden to hide and created conditions for electoral fraud.
  7. This is all part of a transhumanist plot, to eventually turn us into computer controlled cyborgs or similar.
  8. Space Lizards are behind it all.
  9. Gates. Or Soros. Or Gates and Soros .
  10. This is part of a bigger war between globalism and populism
  11. Covergent opportunism – where a number of big powerful agencies have converged on a set of policies to their liking in response to a not very troublesome pandemic.
  12. A plot by the WEF.
  13. A plot to advance the Far Left, cultural Marxism and socialist policies.
  14. A plot to advance an extreme green policy set – XR type policies.

Anything to add? Any comments?

I’d say I think virtually all of them could be said to be of some significance. For me it’s a bit like WW2 – a helluvalot is going on and the propaganda on all sides doesn’t tell you what’s really going on. In WW2 we saw unlikely alliances and think that’s what we’ve got here v often e.g. Far Left Trotskyites and Globalist Billionaires both favouring lockdowns. But there is the big divide which I would say is globalism v populism. As the CP used to say, “it’s no coincidence” that populists (Trump, Bolsanaro) have been seen as being more on the sceptical side – opposing at least the worst excesses of lockdownism.

I think, as sceptics, we can favour the MSM belief system that claims the response has been reasonable and measured in the fact of a deadly virus pandemic.

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Noumenon
Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Convergent opportunism with a strong top down “industrial revolutionary” tendency (class war, reset, ordo ab chaos, disaster capitalism) combined with mass hysteria is my interpretation of events.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Good to see you again OKUK, pity you posted so late that few might view your excellent summary. 12 or even 6 months ago I might have dismissed most of your points as conspiracy theory lunacy, now perhaps only #8.
Your WW2 unlikely alliances is worthy of further exploration.

Last edited 4 years ago by karenovirus
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