Despite Azhar Ali’s inflammatory remarks accusing Israel of complicity in the October 7th Hamas massacre to justify a military response in Gaza, he remains the Labour candidate for the upcoming Rochdale by-election. The Mail has the story.
Azhar Ali, who is defending a Labour majority of more than 9,000 in Rochdale on February 29th, has apologised for claiming the Netanyahu Government deliberately allowed 1,400 of its citizens to be massacred in order to give it the “green light” for military action.
Mr. Ali is the strong favourite to win the safe seat after the death of its former MP Tony Lloyd, meaning Labour could have a new MP in early March who believes in a conspiracy theory.
The bombshell remarks – contained in a secret recording obtained by the Mail on Sunday – also recorded him saying Sir Keir Starmer had “lost the confidence” of his MPs over his stance on the conflict.
Labour’s election co-ordinator Pat McFadden today said that Mr. Ali would still be the candidate in the February 29th vote – though he stopped short of saying he would stand in the seat in the General Election later this year.
“It was wrong to say that, he should never have said it,” Mr. McFadden told Sky News.
Asked if he remained a Labour candidate, he added: “In the upcoming by-election? Yes he will.”
The Board of Deputies of British Jews said: “Were it not too late to do so, we would have called on Labour to replace Mr. Ali as a candidate. It is clear to us that Mr. Ali is not apologising out of a genuine sense of remorse.” …
Mr. Ali made his initial remarks at a meeting of the Lancashire Labour Party soon after the attacks, making the astonishing claim that the Israeli Government had removed its border security to give the Hamas terrorists free rein.
He told the meeting: “The Egyptians are saying that they warned Israel ten days earlier… Americans warned them a day before [that] there’s something happening… They deliberately took the security off, they allowed… that massacre that gives them the green light to do whatever they bloody want.”
Worth reading in full.
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So by his reckoning there can be no aggressors just a damned if you do, damned if you don’t attitude? Israel is guilty by any judgement!
I think we should be careful about throwing stones at people because we think they believe in “conspiracy theories” – if we’d had more cynical MPs instead of rubber stampers we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in
This is not intended as an endorsement of this man or what he said
Umm if you can’t recognise a false flag operation by now you should rip up your skeptic credentials and join the normies again.
It was so obviously allowed to happen.
Really? Christ, we are definitely finished.
Yes, really Grim.
its a LIHOP as in “Let It Happen On Purpose” or Let it Happen Operation.
Other prominent examples:
Lusitania
Pearl Harbour
The Twin Towers attack on 9/11
As apposed to MIHOP, Make it Happen On Purpose (and blame enemy/nutcase)
examples;
JFK Assassination,
The Pentagon attack on 9/11
The Destruction of Building 7 on 9/11
The July 7 Tube bombings in London
Nordstream 2
I’d put The Twin Towers attack on 9/11 in the MIHOP category personally.
Why should someone be sacked for his opinions?
I thought this site was against cancel culture.
The left equivalent would be banging a drum about a Conservative being allowed to stand for election after saying that gender is a fictional construct.
No doubt the DS would be outraged.
Oit of curiosity, does the DS or the Daily Mail have irrefutable evidence that the allegation is completely false?
The UK provides unequivocal support for Israel. That means our MP’s should be working in their interests and aligned with their official position.
What nonsense. It was and continues to be the official position of the UK governemt that covid vaccines are safe and effective against respiratory diseases like covid.
Does that mean every MP should be aligned with that.
And Net Zero? Also have to be aligned?
Ah.. I missed the sarcasm.
Israel even paid for several ‘Friends of Israel’ MPs to visit the occupied territories while they were genociding the Palestinians.
We need to rid ourselves of Parliament.
The greatest trick governments ever played was convincing the masses they needed them.
Because such a thing could never happen. Governments, particularly the Israeli one, are safe and effective for their populations and never use people as disposable pawns.
Let’s hear no more discussion on lockdown harms, excess deaths and COVID vaccinations.
I thought we believed in free speech around here?
You wouldn’t think so based on the articles related to Israel but who knows what effect biting certain hands would have? However, the discussion is quite open so there does appear to be some belief in it.
Or maybe it’s all just a way of gathering data on those questioning official narratives.
Or the recent article about “Election Denial.”
All terrorist supporters and Islamic extremists should be booted out the country, end of, and things would be a lot better for the expulsion of these toxic entities. No flaming time for this, ”….but, but..FREE SPEECH!” bollocks. You can’t have it both ways. They can say whatever they like in their mosques in Muslim countries, that’s their right, but you don’t go preaching hate in a western country then get to hide behind a ‘Free Speech’ catch-all defense. You either welcome in and harbour Islamists, who by their very nature and objective to conquer will move on to radicalize as many Muslims, or convert Westerners, as they can, or you make like Hungary and have zero tolerance for this systemic poison that pervades a once Christian, free and democratic society, completely at odds with our cultural values. Turn the other cheek, because ‘free speech’ or ‘human rights’, you end up like Sweden, France or Germany. Almost completely dhimmified and worsening with time.
”Labour’s Rochdale by-election candidate, Azhar Ali, is a trustee of a mosque where preachers have voiced support for terrorists and attacked Zionism as the result of “totalitarian brainwashing”, the JC can reveal.
The mosque, which has received millions of pounds in cash fundraised by Ali, last month hosted preacher Asrar Rashid, who told worshippers that Hamas and its allies would “boot out” the Jews from all Israel and urged them to support the Houthis as part of the “axis of resistance”.
Rashid also attacked the government’s proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir as a terrorist organisation, adding that Sir Keir Starmer was “just as draconian as the Tories”.
The party’s selection of Ali to fight the 29 February election following the death of the sitting Labour MP Tony Lloyd raises fresh questions about Starmer’s commitment to fighting extremism in the party.
Two Labour MPs, Zarah Sultana and Apsana Begum, delivered speeches at last weekend’s anti-Israel march where protesters called for an intifada and expressed support for the Houthis. MP Kate Osamor has had the Labour whip withdrawn after comparing the “genocide” in Gaza to the Holocaust on Holocaust Memorial Day.”
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/revealed-labours-rochdale-by-election-candidate-has-helped-raise-millions-for-extremist-mosque-blfzl91k
“Moreover, it is impossible to believe that the United States was uninformed of Hamas’s plans, under conditions where not only Israeli intelligence, but also Egypt had advance warnings of the attack. Everything points to a plot that involved Israel, the Biden administration and likely British and European intelligence agencies.
The Times published this report Monday as Israel launched a new wave of attacks on Gaza during a visit by Antony Blinken. The presence of the US secretary of state was meant not only to express the United States’ support for the renewed onslaught, but to manage the response to the exposure of this conspiracy.
The Times reported that
The document obtained by Israeli intelligence forces “meticulously described the attack method, mirroring the actual events,” the Times reported. “It outlined an intense assault aimed to breach Gaza Strip fortifications, seize Israeli cities, and target key military bases. This plan was implemented with alarming accuracy, involving a coordinated use of rockets, drones, and ground forces.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/12/02/klox-d02.html
Continued
”The Times reports:
Moreover, the Times reported, Israeli military and intelligence officials knew Hamas carried out an exhaustive, day-long training mission to practice the plan in detail just three months before the attack. The Times states:
Even while acknowledging that Israel was fully informed of Hamas’s plans, the Times seeks to package the revelations with an alibi, asserting, without any substantiation, that Israeli officials simply made a mistake. The Times writes:
No, Israel’s stand-down on October 7 was not a failure to “connect the dots,” because there were no dots to connect. The Israeli intelligence forces had obtained the entire operational plan of the October 7 attack, then witnessed Hamas carry out a major, high-level training exercise for that plan. They knew exactly what was planned and decided to let it go ahead.
The Times writes: “Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.” It adds, “It is unclear whether Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or other top political leaders saw the document.”
This presentation is absurd. It is impossible to believe that information of this character could come into the possession of the intelligence agencies without provoking the most intense analysis. The idea that, after 9/11, such high-level plans would be kept from the prime minister is not believable.
Such a document would have come from a source at the highest levels of Hamas. Once this valuable information was obtained, it would have been vital to take action to protect the source, including countermeasures to make Hamas believe Israel did not possess the information. The stand-down could have been a means to send a signal that Hamas’s plan had not been exposed.
Ultimately, a choice was made to allow Hamas’s operation to go ahead, in order to provide Israel with a pretext for a massive, long-planned military assault on Gaza. Only Netanyahu could make such a decision. The United States, meanwhile, instantly sent a massive military force to the region, announcing the deployment of its largest aircraft carrier and escort ship to the region within 24 hours of the attack.”
And on 9th December Anthony Blinken bypassed Congress to provide Israel with 14,000 rounds of tank ammunition worth $106m, and at the end of December he bypassed Congress again to approve a $147.5m sale of equipment for 155mm ammunition. I am not sure why he bypassed Congress since they would have approved everything anyway – Israel is highly supportive of US politicians.
I was not aware that Hamas had tanks or artillery.
Some excerpts from the South African report to the International Court of Justice on 11th January:
In the first three weeks alone following 7 October, Israel deployed 6,000 bombs per week.
At least 200 times, it has deployed two-thousand-pound bombs in southern areas of Palestine designated as “safe”.
23,210 Palestinians have been killed. 60,000 Palestinians wounded and maimed.
Israel’s conduct has been deliberately calculated to cause widespread hunger, dehydration and starvation. An unprecedented 93% of the population in Gaza is facing crisis levels of hunger.
And a month later the genocide continues while western media are either quiet or supportive of Israel, and the number of Palestinian deaths has risen to 28,000.
Are Palestinians Islamists? I do not believe so. They are certainly being driven to extremism by the disgraceful behaviour of the Israelis.
Since around 1948 I believe.
Your Times report is very interesting: “The document called for a barrage of rockets at the outset of the attack, drones to knock out the security cameras and automated machine guns along the border …”
Automated machine guns: somewhat reminiscent of the East German border in the cold war days.
Indeed, but the entire multilayered protective network was brought down,
“Four days after the October 7 attack, veteran journalist Seymour Hersh reported that in the days preceding the attack, “local Israeli military authorities, with the approval of Netanyahu, ordered two of the three Army battalions, each with about 800 soldiers, that protected the border with Gaza to shift their focus to the Sukkot festival” taking place near the West Bank.
Hersh quoted a source who told him, “That left only eight hundred soldiers … to be responsible for guarding the 51-kilometer border between the Gaza Strip and southern Israel. That meant the Israeli citizens in the south were left without an Israeli military presence for ten to twelve hours. They were left to fend for themselves.”
The stand-down not only left the border vulnerable to attack, it created the conditions where military forces had to be transferred to intercept Hamas attackers in civilian areas, creating conditions in which Israeli tank and helicopter forces shot indiscriminately into civilian areas, further swelling the Israeli death toll.
In addition to the military stand-down, Israel made a decision to put its vaunted 8200 signals intelligence unit off duty on weekends, meaning that the signals intelligence unit that detected the training exercise three months before was not on duty at the time of the Saturday, October 7 attack.”
With you Mogs.
I do not go along with this utterly free ‘free speech.’
The islamists in our ranks have no respect for what we in this country might call free speech and if we went to the countries from which they emanate and started speaking freely we would probably lose our heads.
Our government is showing that ‘free speech’ is only available depending on where we sit on one of their DEI dials.
“you don’t go preaching hate in a western country then get to hide behind a ‘Free Speech’ catch-all defense.”
Which of course is precisely what occurs.
If I publicly burn a koran what are the chances of not being arrested or even murdered by adherents of the ‘religion of peace?’
As you rightly point out they can’t have it both ways – well clearly they can and do but that doesn’t make it right.
It’s the DS or BS that wants it both ways – that’s the point.
If it’s an anti-Israel march, why do so many thousands of Jews and Jewish organisations attend? Some wear boards which read: ‘Son of Holocaust survivors, ashamed of Israel’.
The European project has failed. As the Editor of ME Eye – who is himself Jewish, says – the European Jews need to leave Israel. Being as how 55% are Sephardi and 45% Ashkenazi – that’s pretty much all of them.
Caught a clip of Abandoned Engineering (that is a great documentary series) they mentioned the old Palestine Parliament building that never got used because it was right on the disputed territory. As for as Oct 7th goes, many ex MOSAD are very suspicious of the fact that Hamas got as far as they did.
Ah yes, the old Pearl Harbour conspiracy theory.
Guys… What are you doing to me? It’s Sunday. And what news do I see? “Hockey stick fraud still going strong”. “No more private cars in London, says WEF stooge”. “The Woke Forces of the UK to become more woke”. And now Labour, our upcoming “beloved” leaders, are opening their arms wide to genocidal rhetoric. This sounds like a Thursday, not a Sunday.
There’s a massacre just about to happen in Rafa where 2 million Palestinians have been herded and now about to get slaughtered (again), so let’s talk about MPs questioning the “most moral army in the world,” or some rude and uncouth big-nosed doctor who called someone big nose.
Maybe they’ll take them somewhere safe via railway carriages.
Yes, MPs should speak out about how Hamas are slaughtering their own people.
No, they should be working on behalf of their constituents and if it’s not an issue for their constituents, it should not be an issue for them except when expressed at the personal level.
If MP’s are unable to consistently and effectively represent their constituents, what makes anyone think they are capable of making decisions that will constructively influence far-off societies and cultures?
That’s all they ever do – the Friends of Israel MPs who bend over for whatever dark forces really run the European project.
Oh, and let me guess, you think these dark forces happen to be zionistic, right? You wouldn’t happen to have any sort of explanation for why people who think Israel should be a thing are running Europe, would you?
Ah, multi culti Britain. A success story worthy of international praise!
Civil war ratchets closer by the day. Click, click, click…….
Yesterday on GB News this Scottish Labour guy (Mcfadden or something) squirmed when asked if this idiot should resign. He only said he was “wrong”. ——–If it had been a tory saying something like this he would be demanding resignation and so would the parasite front bench at PMQ’s.
Why should you resign for not only stating the bleeding obvious, but for stating something which has already been stated in the Knesset itself?
To be fair, this has also been said in the Knesset: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-knesset-member-says-traitors-from-within-might-be-behind-hamas-attack/3121304
The 1400 is also an old figure. According to Israeli ONS equivalent, the final death toll is recorded as 695 Israeli civilians, 373 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139.
No one has been able to answer my question about why it took so long before the Israeli army reacted when normally only a fly has to fart before they start shooting? That’s got to be fishy hasn’t it? Come on!!
The militant group Hamas, using terrorism against innocent civilians, is the problem. They care nothing about the Palestinian People. Their recent attack on civilians was designed to be so offensive and atrocious that Israel would have to respond. It was done specifically to block Saudi Arabia signing the Abraham Accords which would secure peace in the Middle East and make Hamas and their leaders irrelevant. What Hamas did not bargain for is Israel’s massive response to destroy Hamas wherever they are hiding.
Destroy Hamas or destroy all Palestinians? Look at the numbers: 28,000 dead Palestinians v. 1,400 Israelis. 70% of the dead Palestinians are women and children. Two children to every one woman? Then you have 13,000 dead children. Terrorists? Is killing children something to be proud of?!