On Friday March 17th 2023, there was an Adjournment debate in the House of Commons about the Covid vaccines. Here are the video and transcript.
Andrew Bridgen MP used the Government’s own data about the ‘number needed to vaccinate to prevent a COVID-19 hospitalisation’ to demonstrate that the Covid vaccines are not safe, effective or value for money.
It was damning. Given the serious adverse event rate from the vaccines of one in 800, the Government’s own data showed that for all healthy people and all those considered at risk under 70, the probability of being seriously harmed by Covid is significantly outweighed by the risks associated with the Covid vaccines. And for over-70s with health problems, the risk from Covid is the same as the risk from the vaccine – they are just switching one risk for another.
Will Quince MP replied for the Government. He swerved Bridgen’s reference to vaccine harms and trotted out the usual narrative: “Countless studies have shown that vaccinated people are less likely to die or become seriously ill from the virus.” His only attempt to rebut Bridgen’s reference to vaccine harms was to laud the drugs regulator the MHRA.
I have been very critical of the MHRA over the last eight months so I want to dissect what Will Quince MP said about MHRA.
Will Quince MP is the Minister of State in the Department of Health and Social Care responsible, amongst other things, for “medicines and medicines regulation”. So Andrew Bridgen MP was actually wrong to say that his speech “is neither his (Quince’s) area of responsibility nor his area of expertise”. It absolutely is his area of responsibility.
Will Quince MP defended the Covid vaccines saying “all the vaccines used in the U.K. COVID-19 vaccination programme have been through a vigorous approval process. The U.K. has some of the highest safety standards in the world, and the independent Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency is globally recognised for requiring high standards of quality, safety and effectiveness.”
“A vigorous approval process” is a bit of a stretch, to say the least. Here are just three issues:
- MHRA approved the first Covid vaccine in December 2020 after about only 10 months of clinical trials when new medicines typically take 5-10 years to get to market;
- MHRA ignored new draft regulations for mRNA products. Instead, it used the same regulations as traditional vaccines. This lowered the regulatory requirements, resulting in limited evaluation of pharmacodynamics, pharmacokinetics and toxicology;
- Even the manufacturers were surprised (and, I assume, saw dollar signs). For example:
- in March 2020, Pfizer said (page 14): “Other jurisdictions may consider our mRNA-based product candidates to be new drugs, not biologics or gene therapy medicinal products, and require different marketing applications.”
- in August 2020, Moderna said (page 70): “Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA. … In addition, because no product in which mRNA is the primary active ingredient has been approved, the regulatory pathway for approval is uncertain. … Moreover, the length of time necessary to complete clinical trials and to submit an application for marketing approval for a final decision by a regulatory authority… may be difficult to predict.”
Quince also said that MHRA is “globally recognised for requiring high standards of quality, safety and effectiveness”. I worked for 20-plus years in another safety critical sector so I know good safety management when I see it. In reality, MHRA has major shortcomings against best practice, including:
- Responsibility and Accountability. Unlike other safety critical sectors, MHRA does not have a process for delegating authority from the Secretary of State for Health to MHRA individuals to approve medicines for public use. Medicines are assessed by groups of individuals (Section 2) and no single person within the MHRA is responsible for the decision to authorise (Section 3). Moreover, MHRA is organised functionally, with licensing and pharmacovigilance as two separate divisions, which further dilutes responsibility.
- Yellow Card investigation. Unlike other safety critical sectors, MHRA does not have a process for investigating individual Yellow Card (safety incident) reports. It says it tries to investigate individual fatal/serious Yellow Card reports but it does not know how many it has investigated.
- Safety Audit. MHRA has never had a safety audit. It has a biennial quality audit of its pharmacovigilance. However, there is world of difference between a quality audit and a safety audit, and the quality audit does not even look at licensing.
- Risk Assessment and Safety Targets. MHRA does not define the level of risk which is ‘acceptable’ as the basis of “acceptably safe”. Instead, the MHRA defines “acceptably safe” in relative terms: “For a medicine to be considered safe, the expected benefits of the medicine will be greater than the risk of suffering harmful reactions.” Yet post-approval risks will often turn out to be higher in practice due to the inherent limitations of clinical trials and lack of long term safety data. In contrast, other safety critical sectors have clear, documented processes for assessing safety risks (both as part of the approval and usage) against absolute safety targets and baseline risk assessments. Amongst other things, this provides a clear threshold for action if subsequent evidence undermines the original safety risk assessment.
- Monitoring Usage. MHRA relies mainly on statistical analysis of Yellow Card reports to assess drug safety, comparing the frequency of side-effects for a new drug with those of other drugs. No other safety-critical sector monitors safety on a relative basis. It is like the nuclear regulator saying “his nuclear power station is safe because he gets no more contaminated water leaks than the other ones”.
I am co-authoring a long report which goes into far more detail about MHRA’s failures in regulation of the Covid vaccines – both the licensing and monitoring of them. It should be published shortly. I hope Will Quince MP will read it.
Until Nick retired a few years ago, he was a Senior Civil Servant in a Government Department.
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Criminals in Pharma-ment defending the Criminals in the Kill Gates-Pharma funded MHRA?
In related news, the FJB Crime Family has cleared the Criminal Gestapo called the FBI of any wrong-doing….
Spot on..
Laughable to whom though? Just people like us. The rest of the masses are still indoctrinated, I had a conversation with someone whose partner had returned from abroad last week, tested positive for ‘covid’, was shut away in a room for four days and now has only just been let out wearing a mask. Three years on this is still happening. These people are deranged. But it is still the majority.
Also heard recently:
my covid test was negative but I’m not sure I believe it
she’s got covid again, it’s the fourth time
(With a worried face) x has tested positive for covid, it’s obviously circulating again
Saw on another forum ‘I’ve got covid now for the first time. I’m glad I had the jab!’.
I can’t even start with people who think like that.
And a couple more – only a couple of weeks ago someone completely asymptomatic testing +ve who isolated for 10 DAYS, and in a multiple (at least 3) jabbee who got so sick an ambulance was called – ‘the paramedic said it was only the jabs that saved me’. Absolute insanity.
Errrr – they should really say ‘I have tested positive for a cold’.
And the laughable part of that is that you can bet your bottom dollar these nutters will be multi-jabbed! Three times now my kid’s gymnastics teacher has cancelled the sessions because she’s tested positive but she’s a jab junkie and up to date with them all. When does the penny drop? 1) Who in their right mind even bothers to test any more? 2) If you’ve had all the jabs why test if you’re allegedly ‘protected’ from getting seriously ill? and 3) If you keep getting Covid why bother to get further demonstrably useless jabs? It’s all just one big mind f*** from a sane person’s perspective.
But from a terrified individual who is using their primitive limbic system to make decisions, it makes perfect sense. No cognition involved hence why facts don’t change their minds. Only when they individually are impacted by the bioweapon injections & can see the link between the bioweapon & the event will they start to engage their cognition.
It’s why fear has been constantly used throughout as it stops critical thinking from even starting in the majority.
A friend, fully jabbed and multiple boosted, has been ill every time, last week was so ill, could not leave her bed because of the aches and shakes, has lost all sense of smell and taste, she texted to say she had tested positive for Covid, (who still does this?, why?).
When I saw her yesterday, she had tested negative, ffs, I said to her “its really up to you, but don’t take anymore of those injections, they are really bad for you and are causing so many problems with people”. Her response was a half hearted “yes I know I have been hearing things”. I suspect she will do it again, I think to many people this was the biggest and most exciting thing they have ever been a part of, they haven’t had to cope with a war, or a depression so Covid gave their lives a bit of a “big movie” identity of which they are a part, and as a result they just can’t let it go. Its why the Government and its handlers can inflict anything they want on people, because at the end of the day it gives a bit of meaning to their lives.
There are still arrows, signage and hand-sanitizers in the various educational and health settings I occasionally visit, and Long Covid testing advert on the sides of buses, but the Karens have disappeared, along with the self-appointed mask vigilantes outside my local railway station.
However, most of my friends believe that the current state of relative normality is the beneficial result of The Lockdowns and The Vax, and that bank crashes and inflation are the result of The Tories or capitalism, rather than an abrupt global wealth redistribution of trillions of dollars authorised by the Pharma-ments[H/T FerdIII] of the world. They also believe that NetZero, like Zero Covid, is a worthy aim.
Yes, my Mum (triple jabbed, is in hospital today for further tests, because the Pfizer jab has badly scarred her heart) mentioned the dangers of the vaccine to a friend the other day. The friend, who is extremely intelligent, refused even to countenance that there’s anything dangerous about the jabs. Remember how the state has used word repetition to programme people: Vaccines are safe and effective.
I am returning to the UK after not visiting for two years. I had hoped that there would be a fundamental change in the populations view of the ‘convid’.
It would appear that I will be disillusioned.
Andrew Bridgen is doing a good job.
Referring to the para on serious adverse event rates, the Gov’s own data shows that it’s advertising tactics were blatant lies, rather than proper advice, and you can forget about consultation for real patients.
As it is, I’m glad I said no at the start in March 2021, and am probably better off health wise considering the risks.
The MHRA is treated as infallible by organisations up and down the country, e.g. here https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advice/covid-19-guidance/vaccine-guidance/:
The vaccines cannot be approved by the UK regulator (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency – MHRA) until they have been rigorously tested to meet the highest safety standards. Therefore, at this stage of public roll out, we can be assured that they have met these standards.
Aren’t they lying, in effect? After all, originally the product was granted Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA), and if they took into account the results of the de facto experiments on the general public, it does not appear to be suitable for general use at all.
The interesting point here is that they have not finished the testing at all, and have a huge number of yellow card cases which are being ignored. Any other drug with even a few is withdrawn until the problem is fully sorted and the risk understood. As about 1 in 800 appears to have a problem, and many of the cardio-vascular problems are fatal, why is nothing happening? That is simple, the Government fully underwrote the vaccine safety as its responsibility, not the manufacturer. They cannot afford to admit a problem as there will be massive claims on taxpayers money. The MHRA is simply not fit for purpose as it is clearly under political control.
It’s all Disgusting ! When will the bastard Dam break !
Not until MSM reporters start doing their jobs properly – which means maybe never.
Not maybe, more like definitely
I predict Will Quince MP will not read it. And if he receives a copy, it will be filed in the bin …. so that he and his fellow Ostrich MPs can continue to claim the jabs are “safe and effective” as the evidence mounts against them.
And in due course, when the truth is finally unavoidable they will claim “we trusted the science and couldn’t possibly know.”
I think based on the behaviour of colleagues and the attendance during Andrew’s recent speech ( as if his previous one wasn’t evidence enough ), this is proof that the situation is even worse than I thought. Klaus has evidently had huge success in penetrating that cabinet! I should really pay closer attention to politics over here as it would be interesting to see how politicians behave in other countries when some sane, truth-telling MP with a conscience stands up and tells it like it is like your Bridgen did. Has similar happened in places like Canada’s, Australia’s or New Zealand’s Parliaments I wonder..? Perhaps if anyone comes across any footage of similar shananigans and appallingly rude behaviour overseas they could share. I’m just intrigued if this insulting practice of dissing your peer by walking out because you don’t want to hear the official truth is commonplace outside of the UK, because there should be a Code of Conduct across the board, and that would involve the basic courtesy of staying put and listening to others’ speeches, whether you agree with them or not.
I was shocked at MP’s behaviour, they are meant to be representing the public, including those who have been injured by the injections, but it is very clear to me that they have colluded cross party to deny,deny,deny, and to push the evidence away. All Parliamentarians, civil servants, advisors and the house of Lords members know that they are guilty of inflicting the greatest harms on the population of this country that has ever occured, and I include the wars in that. Their behaviour has negatively affected the majority of the population, be it through vaccine injury and changes in the bodies defence system, to mental health, job and business losses, childrens learning and emotional development,Child abuse, wrecked economy driving up inflation. They these people who sit in London are responsible for this, they know it and they know that if the truth regarding these injections comes out, they are finished, their careers are over. How they actually function from day to day with the knowledge no matter how deep they try to bury it, of what they have done and continue to do is beyond my comprehension, if it were I, I would be eaten up and physically and mentally ruined by the realisation of what I had done. These people are inhuman
You are right about the collusion Hester and there’s evidence of it in John Campbell’s video where you can see a member of the Conservative party cross the floor to have a word with a couple of opposition MPs (not sure which party) who looked like they intended to stay. He speaks to them, points, and they promptly get up and leave. He then scuttles out like the cockroach he is. I used to have a certain amount of respect for our parliament, but it has gone completely I am afraid.
100% And I think, if it isn’t already known, the identity of all those vile, sackless MPs who scurried out of the room should be spread far and wide so that members of the public can complain and basically give them hell. They cannot be allowed to have no consequences for their actions. Especially if I recognised my MP was among them I would be giving them both barrels. As you say, inhuman and evidently entirely without a conscience or sense of moral duty, let alone basic manners. They may as well have all stood up and gave Andrew the ‘V’ sign because that’s what their behaviour amounted to and I’m wondering if he would actually challenge them next time he sees them. I would! Appalling, and what an impression it gives, far and wide. As if further proof of corruption or disinterest in the evidence-backed truth were necessary..
There was an Australian MP who addressed parliament for about 10 minutes about how appalling the vaccines are, a really good speech. Funnily enough he was speaking to an empty room. It was ages ago so wouldn’t have clue how to find the link.
It’s perfectly obvious to anyone who can actually think for themselves that the MHRA and similar are merely “enablers”. In fact I believe someone at the head of that organisation actually said as much..
No matter though, it’s completely lost on joe public.
It is however very interesting to note that those in charge have recently quietly dropped recommendations for those under 50 to be jabbed/further jabbed. But the MSM doesn’t ask why.
Now only the usual bureaucratic/NHS inertia keep the jabs going.
Meanwhile the genetically engineered mRNA “vaccine” delivery platform juggernaut rolls on. Soon all vaccines will be made thus.
It’s been deemed safe and effective. Our wonderful genetic engineers can control your genes you see, and no worries about the effects of their products on the immune system because they have a complete understanding of the effects of their products upon it.
Pop-up centres are still happening around the country & under 18s are still being offered the toxin! One popped up in Staffordshire last week. What is said & what is happening are two different things.
Dame June Raine was presenting at a gathering of alumni (and staff?) at her old college, Somerville. It was there that she, proudly and smugly, announced that the MHRA was now “an enabler, not a regulator”. Which of course has nothing to do with her organisation receiving 86% of its budget from the pharma industry.
Most of joe public are so terrified that even if some of this emerging bad news on vaccine harms is true they won’t be able to live with it,and how stupid they’ve been,so, they double down on their beliefs and have another jab!
The whole of the vaccinated population is in a state of denial! It’s like a mass psychosis!
Now you’ve allowed this crap into you it cannot be taken out so what do you do?
Deny it all the more whilst being traumatised about a now unpredictable medical future that could strike at any time!
A cynic might observe that some branches of the medical trade will develop some kind of “cure”, and make a healthy profit from it!
Oh I like that one
Cynics are us then
!
There’s no profit in a cure. What they want are ‘vaccines’ that can be jabbed into the arms of everyone for ever.and ever
Not sure which body has commissioned this report or who is funding it but I hope it takes the MHRA to the cleaners for utter uselessness. How the hell has Night Nurse been declared dangerous while these shots get a free pass?- Probably a separate agency that actually does something besides enabling Pharma to keep poisoning the populace.
My MP got another rocket from me yesterday indicating that the actions of Mitchell were seen and noted and we know exactly why they all fled the chamber, but I demanded a formal explanation nevertheless. The propaganda issued from the govt spokesman was described as exactly thus.
I stopped short of telling him about the NotLibLabCon leaflet campaign I’ve been asked to help with and still psyching myself up for.
Prayers and good vibes to Andrew B for his sterling work in keeping this in the spotlight.
BC (before Covid) I suppose I didn’t question lots of things very much, although I’ve always been a natural sceptic…One of the things that the last three years has hammered home is that ‘independent’ and any Government body are mutually exclusive…they are all financially compromised in one way or another.
…..I actually noticed on the day, Quince’s emphasis on ‘independent’ MHRA, and just immediately thought ah, he’s using the propaganda words….’independent’ ‘safe and effective’…’unprovoked’….whatever it is that they want you to believe….……the reality is always exactly the opposite…
As ‘made a Dame in 2022’ June Raine stated last year “we have gone from watchdog to enabler…”
The idea that these people care about or even look at or police the Yellow Card System, is laughable….enabling what and whom? Well I think we all know the answer….but if they don’t police it…who does?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0iuK_iTfbY
I found this from from Feb last year, which I know we discussed at the time…a reminder of the very lack of real ‘independence’ at the JVCI….
https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2022/02/jcvi-conflicts-of-interest/
Also..this was in the Budget last week….
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-to-receive-10m-from-hm-treasury-to-fast-track-patient-access-to-cutting-edge-medical-products
A total of £10 million has been awarded to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) to help bring innovative new medicines and medical technologies to UK patients more quickly, HM Treasury has announced today. The funding will be used to accelerate routes for bringing innovative medical products developed in the UK onto the market, as well as those made and approved by other trusted regulatory partners globally.
The funding over the next two years will support development of a thorough but shortened process to speed up the approval process for cutting-edge treatments developed in the UK with the greatest opportunity to meet the UK’s healthcare priorities, such as cancer vaccines and AI-based therapeutics for mental ill-health.
‘thorough but shortened’, just like the quacksines then………?
…and all of which, of course, will have nothing to do with things like this……?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-cements-10-year-partnership-with-moderna-in-major-boost-for-vaccines-and-research
Moderna to invest in mRNA research and development (R&D) in the UK, and build a state-of-the-art vaccine manufacturing centre with the ability to produce up to 250 million vaccines a year.
Sorry..it’s a bit of a ramble, but you get my drift?……they are all entangled with each other, they are all taking the ‘filthy lucre’……and I’m not sure that they care that we know…..and I’m not sure what we can do….
“thorough but shortened’”
Where medicines are concerned this phrase is oxymoronic.
The viability of any medicine requires time and ten years should be an absolute minimum.
Downright lies.
It is astonishing that Toby Young in ‘London Calling’ should have wished to defend Andrew Mitchell’s action to ensure that there would be no one in the Chamber to listen to him unless they had to. James Delingpole rightly remarked, “I am genuinely concerned, Tobes, that at this point in the cycle you are still defending the government’s failure to address vaccine injuries and the treatment of Andrew Bridgen.” There was later some back-tracking, but it is a shame that Toby’s first response was to exculpate.
You’re serious?
So what did Toby’s defense consist of? Because I genuinely cannot begin to fathom..
Nothings changed since I’ve been away then..
I’m not one to say I told you so, well, yes I am, told you so!
I have been away a very long time, but felt I had to donate and comment on something that has disgusted me to the core. That being the walk out of our so called MP’s when Andrew Bridgen got up to speak in the debate in the House of Commons.
Just for those that don’t know.. the creep who was scurrying around organising the walkout was Andrew Mitchell MP. A man with form in this area. And guess who he’s mates with.. a picture’s worth a thousand words.
And here’s a little rundown on the odious creep Mitchell courtesy of Lawyers of Light’s Telegram Channel. The presentation is called I’m Aware.The link should take you to a web page where you can view the content outside of the Telegram Channel..
Scroll down to the bottom of the page to view the content and look out for the logo posted below
https://t.me/s/lawyersoflight
The question is: What hold does he have over other MPs, including those in the opposition? An invisible Establishment is one thing – a Racket is another.
You’re right on both counts.. the MRHA and its lackeys in both Government and its MP’s is obviously beholden (paid off) and in the pocket of the likes of Gates et al.
The MRHA is 86% funded by the Pharmaceutical Industry, which obviously includes the likes of Gate’s Gavvi.
Mitchell was simply doing what he was told to do no doubt in advance of Andrew Bridgen’s speech. The Opposition MP’s he went across the house to address were obviously just responding to orders, and obeyed like good little sheep do. They’d had the call and knew how to respond..
Toby as per ‘London Calling’ thinks the association with Gates is entirely innocent.
Ah.. I’d never have guessed.. haha. James is obviously failing to get the message across..
Sadly, I remember him making excuses for Johnson at the start of and during the Covid nonsense, when it was so obvious Johnson was immersed up to his neck in the scam.
Thanks for the picture.
Just shows how utterly stupid MP’s are. Talk about guilt by association.
How right you are..
What does it say about the Conservative Association of Sutton Coldfield who retain this odious man as their MP?
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All I need to know to find that statement laughable and never trust them again is, that they now expressively regard themselves as enabler instead of regulator.
Same as with the guy in DC in the Fauci clip that is now making the rounds: all one needed to know to get that something is wrong with the goo is that free doughnuts were handed out with it.
That also turned off my 84 year old MIL for certain.
There’s always that old chestnut of an argument that “it had to be given emergency use authorization” such that on the back of this elevated status compared to other medicines, some regulatory oversight was acceptable and even necessary to get these products to market as the “knight in shining armour” to save us from the apocalyptic Covid-19!
Well, perhaps, if we were dealing with Ebola.
I briefly worked for the MHRA as an external consultant.
Their organisation was hide-bound and arrogant, their IT was utter garbage built by repeated wars of conquest, piled upon the littered corpses of other external consultancies. The data integrity of their case management system was laughably poor, littered with major technical flaws, and key tables held myriad dupe and orphan records.
They played dirty with us too, then acted like butter wouldn’t melt during the crisis meetings. I was shuffled to the side as being too politically inconvenient because I kept calling them out on their lies.
That engagement died expensively on it’s arse too, but only after a further year of fruitless discussion, by which time I was thankfully long gone.
Thus, I call BS on their boastful assessment of their own prowess in drug safety.
So, all in all.. they’re efficient and have our best interests at heart. I knew it all along.. thank God for that.. (sarc off)
Efficient evasion…
I wrote a letter to MHRA with specific questions about mRNA. I received a 3 page reply. Summary: no answers to my questions and mRNA is ‘safe and effective’.
I am keeping it as evidence.
Saturday 25th March, 1pm, Parliament square, bring a red rose.
March for vaccine injured and against use of mRNA.
That’s why there are Warehouses full to the brim of unused vaccines. People won’t get duped again
“I hope Will Quince MP will read it.”. Of course he won’t.
Quote from the article: “And for over-70s with health problems, the risk from Covid is the same as the risk from the vaccine – they are just switching one risk for another.”
No, the risks add together, since the experimental gene therapies do not prevent transmission, infection, or illness.