I’ve written a piece for the Spectator’s Coffee House blog about the ‘Lockdown Files’ – the 100,000+ WhatsApp messages on Matt Hancock’s phone that Isabel Oakeshott has leaked to the Telegraph. They demonstrate, beyond reasonable doubt, that Hancock wasn’t following some diabolical plan cooked up in Davos, just lurching from pillar to post trying to save his political skin, trying to stick to the advice from the Government’s scientific advisors where possible, but seemingly ignoring it when it was politically inconvenient (although Hancock denies that charge).
To be fair to Hancock, the medical advice often changed from one moment to the next and wasn’t always consistent, as these messages reveal. The overall impression left by the ‘lockdown files’ is that the government wasn’t ‘following the science’, as Hancock and others claimed – not because the scientific advice was clear and they were ignoring it, but because there was no such thing as ‘the science’. We were in uncharted waters and no one really had a clue what to do, including the Government’s scientific advisors.
What’s unforgivable is that the Government imposed policies it knew would cause widespread suffering, such as banning people from visiting their dying relatives in hospitals and care homes, without really knowing whether they would save lives. As Hancock’s WhatsApp messages make clear, such measures were often imposed because the government wanted to be seen to be doing something – anything – rather than admit the truth, which is that it was completely out of its depth.
I then go on to summarise the most scandalous revelations in the ‘Lockdown Files’, before concluding by expressing gratitude to the Telegraph and Isabel Oakeshott for making the WhatsApp messages Public:
Not only are they clearly in the public interest, but the people who lost loved ones during the pandemic – particularly in care homes – should not be forced to wait until the official inquiry concludes before discovering what went on behind the scenes when the pandemic struck and, more importantly, whether mistakes were made. In addition, the revelations may help us prepare better for the next pandemic, which could strike before the inquiry makes its recommendations.
I’m also thankful for another reason, namely the ongoing debate I’ve been having with James Delingpole and others about whether the pandemic and the response to it, including the development and roll out of the mRNA vaccines, were all part of a sinister plot to enrich a cabal of billionaires and enable them and their political allies, such as Klaus Schwab, to railroad through their globalist agenda. I’ve always maintained that it wasn’t; that it was cock-up not conspiracy and these WhatsApp messages confirm that analysis. There was no ‘plandemic’. It was just the usual political clown show.
Worth reading in full.
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Toby – I suggest you need to consider matters more widely and beyond the Hancock level. And certainly beyond the Johnson level. Bear in mind how eveything changed in UK following Johnson’s meetings with Gates.
It is true that there is, as yet, no global Mustafa Mond, but that last paragraph is an unfair parody of the red pilled outlook.
In fact there is not one inner party but many, and their watchword is Crisis Opportunity. The workings of one of them were exposed in the Climategate emails. At least two others have been at work during the Covid crisis – the lockdown party and the vaccine party, both on the lookout for a problem to which they have a long-prepared solution. Their backers are not motivated by money but philanthropy of a sort, for the very reason that you can’t spend ten billion on yourself. As for Davos, consider the student unions these days. They now have Equality Officers, Diversity Officers, Sustainability Officers etc etc and some have Intersectionality Officers. The purpose of these last is to coordinate the story and ensure that no blob challenges the policy of any other blob. Klaus Schwab is an Intersectionality Officer and the purpose of his conference is coordination.
As for team James and team Toby? You can both see that behind the curtain there is nothing but a second rate Wizard of Oz. What wacky James… Read more »
Mr Young… can’t see the wood for the trees?
Don’t confuse strategy (the plan) with tactics (the means to execute the plan).
The strategy is to enslave us under the ownership of a self-selected few.
Health emergencies, environmental emergencies, provoking wars are all tactics in support of the strategy.
I don’t believe the escape of the virus from the lab was planned, but certainly the response was planned (they had had gamed it a few weeks before) and it certainly was coordinated.
It was not a pandemic in the usual accepted meaning, but the plan was to make it appear a pandemic. So yes it was planned… a ‘plandemic’.
Read Kennedy’s Book “The Real Anthony Fauci” which clearly gives the collusion with Bill Gates on the capture of Public Health by the Gates and his Billions. This extremism & control that Gates exhibits goes back 25 years. The whole pandemic playbook has been honed over 20 years by Gates and his sycophantic followers. The death and destruction he has foisted on Africa is unbelievable. Faucy is just a pawn in Gates program. Gates has access to all the big political leaders, he had a well published private meeting in early 2020 with BJ. I was skeptical when I first read this book but I am rereading it now and it makes total sense. This Gates program has been going on for over 20 years.
National politics is a side-show to world events and side-show actors are not privy to global planning.
Toby Young is here accepting that the ‘Lockdown files’ – the WhatsApp messages, etc – are REAL, and not just fabricated (by the 77th Brigade and/or MI5, perhaps) to give the impression of incompetence and/or minor corruption (oh, those daft politicians!) when what we know to be going on, quite clearly, is a long-planned global genocide. Stanley Johnson and his son Boris are eugenicists who have both written about the urgent ‘need’ to reduce global population. Bill Gates is known to share this view, as do many others in the WEF who have expressed these opinions openly. These people HATE humanity. Birth rates are down, excess deaths are up, everywhere where the ‘vaccines’ were used in sufficient numbers. Fake bird flu is next, with children being the target of the next round of forced and coerced injections. Fear via the mass media will make it happen. Unless there’s enough good left in the world to resist. Is there?
I disagree that this suggests there was no ‘plandemic’. In my opinion, the jury is out as to whether or not this virus was ‘released’ but there was certainly a planned response with much of the ‘science’ originating from the WHO and the prior pandemic table top exercises funded by Gates et al and attended by the usual suspects including the tech giants.
The ‘science’ which was followed including the ‘not recommending’ of ‘go to’ treatments like Ivermectin, silencing of dissenters, lockdown and masking requirements all lead back to these groups via the WHO who strangely are currently seeking GREATER control over how different Govts respond to alleged (and potential) health threats and are currently discussing and voting on this without any media attention or dissent. Indeed, they are probably quite happy with this distraction and Hancock being made a sacrificial lamb in the process
Spot on.
Oh come on Toby, really??
It’s beyond denial that Bill Gates played a massive role in driving policy in this and many other countries which is why practically the entire world overthrew their existing public health policies and implemented never before seen policies practically in lockstep – and now the WHO is attempting to become the world’s pandemic policy and health information superpower and police force to ensure that Gates’ promised Pandemic 2 will go off without troublesome dissent. That the world continues in lockstep with net zero policies that *will* enslave humanity is also beyond denial. For heaven’s sake man, get real.
‘Build back better’. Not an obvious phrase to use in the depths of a public health crisis, yet they were uttered almost simultaneously by Boris, Biden, Trudeau, Ardern, the Australian guy and Macron. No collusion, my arse…
It’s got to the point where Toby’s ignorance, blindness, stupidity is making me consider my ‘donation’ – Nowt as blind as someone that chooses not to see but reading the same old crap in light of all developments is getting very tedious!
This is not Daily Scepticism, utter lunacy!
Nah, we need DS. We’re free to disagree with TY, and are doing so. I think he’s way wrong on this one, but we get a good variety of articles here representing different viewpoints.
“We were in uncharted waters and no one really had a clue what to do, including the Government’s scientific advisors.”
Er… I thought we had a perfectly good “pandemic preparedness plan” to fall back on before the CCP got involved and we all (well the government and 90% of the great British public) started running around like headless chickens vis a vis corporal Jones?
Incidentally how do you know we’re soon going to have another pandemic? Thought I’d read somewhere that pandemics come round every 30-40 years? The next one shouldn’t be around until 2050 at the earliest. Oh forgot the WHO have changed the definition – funny that? And who “owns” the WHO…. well blow me down if it ain’t the CCP and old Billy Gates. Amazing.
Just saying.
Oh and one last thing, hasn’t Gates got a vested interest in The Telegraph like about 3,500,000 vested interests?
I’m not a so called expert(thank God) but reasonably intelligent but I told my boss in February 2020, that this was a type of flu and they were wrecking the economy for it. 3 years of our lives we’ll never get back. Refused the untrialled vaccine and always will. The government has proven itself to be inept.
The fact that Hancock is a bungling idiot does not prove it wasn’t all planned. Lockdowns, masks and experimental injections happening in lockstep globally wasn’t by accident. That response to the ‘bad cold’ wasn’t a ‘cock up’. It was premeditated on a global level and it was never about our health, but rather about enriching interest groups and transferring power (basic rights) away from ordinary people. This didn’t all happen spontaneously, even if talentless mid level bunglers like Hancock had to continuously optimise their self interested response to the globalist project, which they are all themselves signed up to. Look who benefitted and look who lost out…
Toby thinks that the msm pushing a single line while every institutional (bureaucratic, political, legal, scientific, academic, etc.) decision was just an unhappy ‘cock up’… yet, those institutions are made up of individuals and the decisions they made cost lives. Many lives! But we are supposed to write it all off as well intentioned people just cocking up! F off Toby! Even if you don’t believe it was a plan: these individuals operate in their self interest and they have too much power. To call it a cock up (even if it wasn’t… Read more »
Despite containing no “Profanity and abuse” my comments have disappeared ???
Looking at the majority of contributions to this thread the sheer irony of individuals signing up to an avowedly free speech platform then using it to try and bludgeon the creator of the site into silence / acquiescence is genuinely breath-taking.
Toby Young has done far more than any other major public figure in the UK to try to maintain / restore the democratic freedoms that have been so undermined in the last few decades (especially relating to COVID tyranny and Net Zero). He is a tireless worker for this cause who somehow manages to retain positivity and good humour throughout.
Those trying to shut him down because they disagree with his personal assessment of the Hancock files are simply demonstrating that ‘cancellation culture’ operates in all areas of discourse.
They are not going to succeed.
I’ve spent a lot of time defending TY here and elsewhere, but I don’t see why I can’t say he’s way wrong when I think so. He’s a big boy and capable of defending himself and facing criticism. I’m sure he would not have it any other way. Not sure how we’re trying to “cancel” or “bludgeon” him. There are those who question his sincerity which I think is unfair and inaccurate, but most here are just disagreeing with him.
Yes rereading the thread I can see that the majority of comments (including your own) are of this perfectly reasonable ideologically challenging type. I had skim read it and fixated on a few personally pejorative ones – so apologies for that misrepresentation.
I do stand by my points praising Toby’s fantastic general work in the field of democratic rights and freedoms.
Yes totally agree
No apology required
All part of the back and forth which is generally of a high quality here
Cheers, and completely agree about the unusually high standard of discourse on this forum.
Hancock hugged his “mistress” as if he’d never before encountered an adult female.
The fact that the conspirators cocked-up their conspiracy doesn’t mean there was no conspiracy.
I am beginning to worry whether TY supports the values of DS anymore. Is he hoping for a safe Labour or LibDem seat or a Tory Peerage.
100% sure he supports the values of DS. He’s just a bit in denial I think. Or just sees it differently to us.
He doesn’t want his wife to divorce him.
Which is why he normally sticks to free speech issues.
Feels a bit odd speculating about the site owner on his own site but why would his wife divorce him?
I’m not sure how setting up a site called Lockdown Sceptics at a time when questioning Covid madness was heresy could be seen as sticking to free speech issues.
Because claiming that free speech is being restricted isn’t called a “conspiracy theory”: it’s accepted that it is happening but argued to be a “good thing”. So he’s operating on non-batshit territory, from the point of view of the people he has to get along with.
If you look at articles on here that he’s authored over the last year he’s concenrated on free speech issues and left the rest to others.
Maybe
I think he’s sincere
I think there’s a good variety of Covid sceptical articles here
I think outside of the sceptic community he’s seen as a spreader of Covid misinformation so if he’s trying to get away with something it hasn’t worked
I haven’t argued that he’s insincere.
I haven’t argued that there aren’t covid-sceptical articles on here. I’ve pointed out that he isn’t the author.
I’m arguing that, as a proponent of free speech, which he clearly is, he can remain at least politically tolerable to people he needs to get along with for perfectly valid personal reasons whilst at the same time hosting “heresy”.
I’ve sadly wondered the same thing. He’s definitely becoming more mainstream by the week – as if there’s other forces/incentives at play. Nick Dixon seems to also have started treading the same path. Something just feels… off.
He is sincere but at the same time unable to call a spade a spade because it looks bad…
I have considered this post and I think the last sentence was un called for and I withdraw it. I do not doubt Toby’s motives but I remain concerend about his willingness to give the benefit of the doubt to the political class.
No Toby, I’m afraid the only thing this proves is your bizarre naivety. That some of it may not have been planned is not proof that none of it was planned.
Nothing to add really – just as incredulous as everyone else that anyone could conclude “there was no plandemic” just because we’ve been allowed to see some text messages from some UK minister who could well just be a useful idiot or the whole thing is spin.
Pilar? Is that the name of another of his popsies?
Hancock almost certainly didn’t have a plan, but that doesn’t mean that there wasn’t one among the many other people involved in trying to subvert people’s minds to do as we are told.
I bet Toby still believes in Father Christmas.
I know the WHO suddenly revised its pandemic guidelines early in the outbreak to be much more draconian, simply reversing previous guidance on the value of lockdowns etc. Were they not also instrumental in the program to develop vaccines, therefore suppressing any alternative treatments to avoid liability claims via the EUA? Were the WHO and it’s sponsors not the puppetmaster behind governments, and the Hancocks of this world just struggled to execute the WHO plan? There was also a lot of expediency – I clearly remember the shortage of masks; only when they became available were mask mandates introduced! Now of course the WHO wants to be the de jure authority for anything it decides to call a pandemic. This is the real plandemic, not individual country responses.
Oh dear, this is starting to erode my confidence in this site. One fumbling minister in the context of similar actions around the globe proves the whole covid mess was all just incompetence!? Are you serious?
I suspect the last paragraph reveals a more relevant reason for wanting to arrive at this conclusion: the ongoing rivalry with the crowd-pulling maestro himself and this articles author. I suspect JD will tear this idea of a cuck-up to shreds on the next London Calling. Not that he needs to. The idea there was no coordinated activity between WEF lickspittles to control every aspect of the covid fiasco from abandoning our existing pandemic preparedness plans to silencing experts and others with different opinions is absurd. Of course “the science” kept changing because there never was anything scientific about any of it. What is scientific about vaccinating people against an infection they have already had or which is harmless to them? Nobody seemed to learn either. Governments just kept repeating the same useless activities and mandates because those useless activities were there to control not help
I wonder if the DS is being got at the same way GB News, Project Veritas, etc…… Read more »
Discussions at minster level should not under any circumstances to conducted via any system where there isn’t a full record held for the long term. These types of secret messaging systems are clearly attractive to politicians, but they should be barred from using them (I’d say a jail term should be mandatory if there’s evidence of secret messaging — pour encourager les autres).
I will second that wholeheartedly.
The Lockdown Files demonstrate no such thing. The Plandemic wasn’t planned in the UK: it was an American Operation.
The UK simply followed Fauci’s lead.
The fact that Handcock is an arrogant, incompetent fool is irrelevant.
This is from Lawyers of Light explaining their concerns re distracting from & covering up the Midazolam death protocols prescribed in hospitals & care homes to folk with respiratory distress, the latter without the patient being seen & DNR notes put in place without consultation with or consent from the patient & their families. Very real concerns of the predictable & centrally proscribed protocols usually prescribed to terminally ill patients only.
“Alert!
Be very very careful and have a critical mind about this, given the likelihood of Midazolam questions being raised in Parliament soon.
These messages may well show Hancock’s brazen lies about many many things, but make no mistake, people in care homes DID NOT die as a result of lack of useless PCR testing before they went into them.
They died as a result of the protocols adopted from NG163.
This may well be COVER for that.
We will not be commenting further on The Telegraph’s Hancock whats app messages issue, as we believe it’s clear cover for our midazolam questions that are finally to be put to Parliament, even though we originally sent them to Javid in 2021.
Lack of testing did not kill those in care.… Read more »
Just because some, or even all, of the idiots in charge of delivering it in the U.K. didn’t know what they were doing doesn’t mean it wasn’t planned. It was just planned at a higher level than them, by the people who actually run the show globally.
The crime here is that they didn’t respond with the science as it emerged but instead stuck with their original policies.
As politicians they are always going to take the route of ‘blame anyone else’ rather than stand up and say mistakes were made.
Sadly, if they’d said mistakes were made as soon as it was understood that they were mistakes, along with evidence showing that they had tried their best, there would have been some understanding. As it is, they’re now ‘in too deep’ and to admit those mistakes also means admitting to suppression of ‘the new science’ with all of the problems that came (or remained) as a consequence.
They had every opportunity to call a halt to the nonsense in June 2020. ‘Covid-19’ – whatever it was – had gone. This is witnessed by all-cause mortality – normal from June 2020 to October 2020. They did not need jabs nor implement masks in July.
I’m not sure I can agree with that.
Even if “the science” suggested that lockdowns, forced masking and forced vaccination were effective germ control measures, I still wouldn’t agree with them and would consider their implementation a crime.